The Ultimate STANCE Test: Muay Thai vs MMA Stance

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    In this sparring vlog, I use the Muay Thai stance (tall, narrow, squared) in round 1 and in round 2, I use more of an MMA stance (wide, narrow, bladed). Throughout the video, I will be discussing the pros and cons of both stances!
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Комментарии • 693

  • @henryliu518
    @henryliu518 3 года назад +1982

    I like the seated stance, where I sit down and watch other people do the fighting

    • @Candyyycoatedlies
      @Candyyycoatedlies 3 года назад +39

      same

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +113

      haha!

    • @vonrages6608
      @vonrages6608 3 года назад +6

      Lol

    • @chrismayclin6397
      @chrismayclin6397 3 года назад +44

      I hate it when I’m trying to get my grocery list from my wife on the phone and some psycho just roundhouse kicks me in the head out of nowhere. So annoying!

    • @G.pana101
      @G.pana101 3 года назад +1

      😂🤣

  • @zisispethanis4271
    @zisispethanis4271 3 года назад +232

    Some of the pro and cons of both stances might be different in a more "hard" session. For example he wont be able to walk through many hard kicks from your MT stance like that. Now, since you did light sparring, it's easier for him and a a lot less dangerous do go in and out, absorb a kick while entering, and reset. A teep to the face or a hard round to the liver would have made him hesitate a lot more. Same for your MMA stance, it would be a lot different if his low kick were really chopping your leg. I am not saying you must always have a hard spar, (or even too often) but just that some stances, techniques and tactics might work in a semi contact/controlled situation and not the same way in a hard session or match.

    • @kokos4947
      @kokos4947 3 года назад +1

      True

    • @jordy4054
      @jordy4054 2 года назад +12

      I agree with this. Had a harder round (not hard to the head just the body) with my coach and he abused Teeps. Completely took my confidence away to try and box him. Hard Teeps are incredibly effective

    • @pussyhammer6969
      @pussyhammer6969 2 года назад +3

      True that's the weird thing about sparring.

    • @dylanhampton6873
      @dylanhampton6873 2 года назад +5

      Mma stance is better in my opinion, but if leg kicks are a threat, either eat it and go for your own shot or switch up the stance and check then go back to the mma

    • @rhking9678
      @rhking9678 2 года назад +3

      Yes but then in the muy thai stance u can be very easily taken down as u r very narrow. The muy thai stance is great if u have a fantastic bjj game, the best example is Charles Oliveira. I honestly prefer the mma stance as it easier to move with, and I'm less concern about takedowns. But both are greats just depends on the situation :)

  • @Lucifer_M0rningstar
    @Lucifer_M0rningstar 3 года назад +153

    Ive been muay thai practitioner since I was 8 years old. I'm used to my stance but I tend to mix it up with a boxing and mma stance from time to time. It's always good to change it up. It give you advantages in different out comes

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +15

      cheers!

    • @kacklerot
      @kacklerot Год назад +3

      💯 agree! Staying in one stance just makes someone more of a robot. Easier to figure out. It's always good to add chaos. That is what a fight is. Chaos.

  • @kevinzalac8945
    @kevinzalac8945 3 года назад +97

    I’d prefer to spar you with you using MT stance lol.
    But I think being able to blend styles
    Is always key. I like MT stance against aggressive KB style fighters. Mainly, as you said because of teep and kick catches from carriage blocks.
    I feel with more elusive fighters, like you, there has to be a speed match. So tactics have to change to meet that speed and movement. Especially when attack lines are not always linear, but using hard angles

  • @dezdaking
    @dezdaking 3 года назад +115

    I really like the Muay Thai stance but the mma stance is more realistic for a street fight scenario and obviously mixed martial arts.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +13

      cheers!

    • @briannodwll5423
      @briannodwll5423 3 года назад +32

      @@MR-ld3ry street fighting is something not a lot of ppl like to do but they are forced to. Depending what area u come from.

    • @IronMikeyT
      @IronMikeyT 3 года назад +10

      @@briannodwll5423 why do mma groupies always talk about "street fights" but say using weapons is for pussies?
      people get shot and stabbed in street fights and you groupies swear a stance will save you.

    • @IronMikeyT
      @IronMikeyT 3 года назад +5

      @@briannodwll5423 meeting at the back of the baseball field after school isnt a street fight sonny. sorry to break it to you.

    • @briannodwll5423
      @briannodwll5423 3 года назад +12

      @@IronMikeyT I live in a place called the north end, winnipeg. Lots of violence and drugs, cops very racist to natives. Idk where u come from but here ur destined to street fight. There's free boxing places to learn to fight. I don't like street fighting cuz anything goes. I avoid it as much as I can but almost every month I'm fighting outside. I just got kicked out of school for fighting and getting charged. Ur to use to talking, u never had to fight for ur life so stop talking. I'll smack u around.

  • @amklein6206
    @amklein6206 3 года назад +119

    Despite being able to move your head more, you are getting tagged way more with the MMA stance. To me the clear advantage of the MMA stance is to create openings for strikes by feinting TD, and obviously being better able to explode into TD. I don't buy the lower stance being that much better for defending takedowns, Jose Aldo has been stuffing TD at the highest level of MMA out of a MT stance for over a decade. But I also acknowledge his goal is to keep the fight standing not to use his own TD. I prefer the MT stance personally.

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 года назад +23

      Fair enough each person has their preference both are viable. Not arguing but are you sure Jose Aldo fights out of a Muay Thai stance? I know he predominantly is a striker in mma but I don't feel he stands as tall as alot of the Thai guys do. I'd have to go rewatch some of his fights again to refresh my memory

    • @mndeg
      @mndeg 3 года назад +6

      Jeff likes to explode forward to strike and kick then dart out which is only possible with his stance which I think is longer than the average mma stance

    • @gatorboyyy1653
      @gatorboyyy1653 Год назад +7

      Jose Aldo uses some Muay Thai striking with his kicks and knees but his stance is not a traditional Muay Thai stance he’s got like a perfect balance of a Muay Thai and Boxing stance and he’s uses both arts amazingly with excellent takedown defense

    • @mac1414
      @mac1414 Год назад +3

      Jose Aldo doest not really do the MT stance. In the majority of his fights he uses MMA stance. There were moments when he was close to MT stance, but that's it.

    • @JimmyTurner-zo9to
      @JimmyTurner-zo9to Год назад

      That's because it less defensive he did say he use the muay thai stance for defense

  • @edwhlam
    @edwhlam 3 года назад +33

    It really depends on your background. I came from TKD and Judo. The MMA stance just feels more natural. Never got used the MT stance. Also, being a smaller guy, I favour mobility verses checking kicks.

  • @jakecastillo2872
    @jakecastillo2872 3 года назад +40

    Definitely mma stance also I'm more comfortable with because of my tkd and karate background

  • @luisdawnfinder3188
    @luisdawnfinder3188 3 года назад +26

    When I'm messing around and sparring my friends I'm usually switching multiple stances around as you can feint different attacks that way and give them a lot to think about. Out of the two stances you showed off, I'd definitely say your MMA stance looks a lot more natural. I know sometimes you do style breakdowns like that one you did about Wonderboy. Just curious if you would consider doing one of Corey Sandhagen? I feel he's an excellent striker who brings a lot of interesting things to the table

    • @Idk-dr6dk
      @Idk-dr6dk 2 года назад +1

      Definitely sandhagen is a beast and fun to watch

  • @RickGrimes__
    @RickGrimes__ 3 года назад +7

    There is no one stance,you have to adapt to situation. Its not the strongest one that survives,nor the smartest one but the one who can adapt to change.

  • @I_Might_B_Wrong
    @I_Might_B_Wrong 2 года назад +9

    I've trained Muay Thai for over a decade, but recently doing some Sanda and Boxing which both use a toe/heel alignment type stance that's lower. It resonates when you talk about the Muay Thai stance being a more lazy and laid back stance. In Sanda and Boxing I'm using a lot more energy.

  • @alittlepuertoricanboy1993
    @alittlepuertoricanboy1993 Год назад +4

    I prefer using MMA stance because of the footwork and it's easier for me offensively and evasively, but I tend to eat leg kicks because of it. Vice versa, when I use the Thai stance, my defense is very high, but I have a hard time being offensive and using pressure. Trying to get to a point where I can mix them both up a bit.

  • @nicksalvatore5717
    @nicksalvatore5717 3 года назад +14

    I think stances should be dynamic depending on the circumstances
    Even a side stance may be useful as someone circles to your outside, and you catch them with a side kick or hook kick!

    • @ninjaman7123
      @ninjaman7123 2 года назад +2

      yknow thats the best way to think about it. You have to adapt and there's not just 1 ''best'' style to use all the time.

    • @juanantonio192
      @juanantonio192 Год назад

      Side stance never works

  • @TOrganic
    @TOrganic 3 года назад +7

    Depends on what type of style your opponent have. But I think both style is great.

  • @yosigam
    @yosigam 3 года назад +12

    Hi Jeff great video once again.
    How about this follow up:
    "Witch stance should i use based on my opponent's style"

  • @dharamjitbiswal3415
    @dharamjitbiswal3415 3 года назад +34

    Definitely the mma stance. It helps to circle arround more and be able to hit or enter opponents perimeter more and get out easier. 👍

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +6

      cheers!!

    • @enzocarneiro6748
      @enzocarneiro6748 3 года назад

      Muay Thai fighters can also be insanely evasive as seeing by the top level Femeus

    • @Idk-dr6dk
      @Idk-dr6dk 2 года назад

      @ZENJI GAMING so if I was competing in mma would you recommend also training in the muay thai stance? Do you feel it would help me develop better kicks/knees that I can then transfer over to my mma stance?

  • @NexusJunisBlue
    @NexusJunisBlue 3 года назад +12

    Great breakdown! Also nice Saenchai style footwork starting at 5:06 lol

  • @38foisjp
    @38foisjp 3 года назад +5

    Great vid, thanks jeff! There's an editing mishap at 1:30 though, I'm sure you can fix that easily enough. Sounds like a sound clip is doubled and has delay.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +2

      ahh shoot I dont know what I did there... thanks for pointing it out though!

    • @paulmoonsami7175
      @paulmoonsami7175 3 года назад

      Not too big of a deal.

  • @NA-oo4ls
    @NA-oo4ls 3 года назад +1

    I love the Muay Thai stance... but I train Muay Thai. And I'm laid back and defensive.

  • @mrdominox2293
    @mrdominox2293 3 года назад +2

    You don't need a MT stance to teep or kick catch, and you don't need a wide MMA stance for take down defense. A less wide, evenly weighted "MMA stance" gains the benefits of both. You can easily shift your weight from leg to leg, or "float" on one leg (remove the weight from one leg without shifting weight for a quick teep/guard). You can also move in all directions easily as your weight is evenly distributed on both feet, so you don't need to shift weight to move. And if a take down attempt is made you can still sprawl easily.

  • @chaxologist2024
    @chaxologist2024 2 года назад +2

    Saenchai and Lerdsila's stances are that of a hybrid between Muay Thai and MMA stances. No wonder they are the most evasive Muay Thai fighters tjhrough fantastic head movement and footwork. Their stances and fighting style would work very well for MMA and/or street fighting!

    • @judomaster3263
      @judomaster3263 2 года назад +4

      Yes, normally the best Muay Thai fighter are those who knows how to box, and have good head movements, good hands and nice footwork, look at somrak( probably the best head movements in Muay Thai) or Samart best pfp, please search those dudes

  • @alexkehoepwj
    @alexkehoepwj 3 года назад +5

    That was the best phone commercial I've ever seen. I'd love to hear the at&t audio behind that

  • @az8039
    @az8039 3 года назад +4

    mma stance is also super open to calf kicks though on the lead leg . Really have to switch it up according to the opponents game plan.

  • @davidtran2862
    @davidtran2862 3 года назад +4

    I like using the Muay Thai stance against less experienced grapplers or if the rules are more kickboxing style and not MMA. However, I use the MMA stance for MMA or when sparring wrestlers. I like seeing you mix and match styles when I watch your videos though you have very good transition work I've noticed!

  • @jerryberbss4578
    @jerryberbss4578 3 года назад +8

    now that's an ad i would'nt skip

  • @Troupe_Master
    @Troupe_Master 3 года назад +12

    I love Muay Thai stance, practice throwing leg and roundhouse variations at 200+ kicks a day and you can end a fight with a bone shattering kick

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      cheers!

    • @Idk-dr6dk
      @Idk-dr6dk 2 года назад

      So if I train mma would you recommend doing some muay thai only rounds on the bag every time I train to form more stretchability and power in my kicks? And do you think those benefits would transfer over even if im in my mma stance? If so how would you recommend going about the kick repetitions? Do you separate those 200 kicks between leg, body, head or do you just throw them to one spot?

  • @HorstEwald
    @HorstEwald 3 года назад +4

    Muay Thai stance is oddly amazing to watch.
    Tawanchai for example - the balance and the speed of the legs are hard to fathom.
    I, lacking that core strength and stability, like to keep my butt a bit lower and weight more evenly distributed oc. But in terms of watching One FC Muay Thai has replaced UFC for me

  • @manuelmedrano6819
    @manuelmedrano6819 3 года назад +1

    Jeff, you went from Muay Thai to Dutch Kickboxing. Great choice. Kept your guard, increased your punching agility. Right?

  • @IAmYourDoom
    @IAmYourDoom 3 года назад +4

    I think you should switch between stances but the MMA stance is definitely more well rounded

  • @electroice4513
    @electroice4513 Год назад +1

    I'm a kickboxer and i usually do the MMA stance , but God how many low kicks i receive. I'm willing to switch to a MT stance

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 2 года назад +1

    MMA stance is better obviously because it's more universal. You can shoot in and all that good stuff. But you seem too used to Muay Thai and you need a lot of grappling experience to learn how to use the MMA stance well. So it's up to you. Do you want to learn how to wrestle? It takes a long long time but its up to you in the end.

  • @bono894
    @bono894 Год назад +1

    Personally, I like the Muay Thai stance better. When kicks and knees are allowed as they are in MMA, I want to be as tall as possible. I see too much potential for getting kneed or head kicked with a low stance that encourages slipping, bobbing and weaving/ducking in for takedowns. I also see MMA fighters keeping their hands low and relying on head movement. The hand eye coordination needed for that is too risky. I realize with the Muay Thai stance that you’re exposing yourself to takedowns, but I much prefer getting taken down and having to resort to my jiu-jitsu to getting ko’d any day. I’m curious to hear your thoughts about this.

  • @JLillard5
    @JLillard5 Год назад +1

    Each stance has its strengths and weaknesses but I prefer the MMA stance more because I like to use more boxing. The Muay Thai stance is better if you’re a kicker and defending kicks in general. But the MMA style makes you more unpredictable also if you’re grappling a Muay Thai stance is going to be problematic.

  • @thepaladin7816
    @thepaladin7816 3 года назад +6

    These videos are always entertaining 🤘 I like to think it helps to switch between stances for different techniques and movements. I have the same sentiment when it comes to the Muay Thai stance where it's difficult to have quick feet, but it's easier for me to do front round kicks and defend. But the MMA/ablative stance is so much fun because of how fast you become (side kicks!!!) 😄
    To reiterate, I think stances can be situational 😅

  • @wolfkingt
    @wolfkingt Год назад +1

    Since it's not your primary stance I'd like to see you use the muay thai stance a little more. I seen that even in your muay thai stance you still revert back to your MMA stance.

  • @treroney4720
    @treroney4720 3 года назад +11

    I like to modify my stance depending on who I’m fighting. If I know I’m going to use a division one wrestler I’ll keep my hands low and my feet far apart. If I’m fighting an A class fighter from Thailand I keep my leg angled so I can check kicks. It’s completely situational to my opponent.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      cheers!

    • @noahcastillo6771
      @noahcastillo6771 2 года назад

      I feel like everyone should approach it that way it’s good to keep in mind when you don’t have a set style to just be more versatile instead

  • @justinhicks3322
    @justinhicks3322 Год назад +1

    Muay Thai. I feel like the stance gives me a better base to absorb blows which allow me to be more agressive at a slow constant pace.

  • @joecoonan3931
    @joecoonan3931 3 года назад +3

    I have always alternated between stances, as with my guard placement, being constantly elusive.
    If I were to say I preferred any of them, it would be the Muay Thai stance, as I have a highly developed teep and front leg kicks, and I am better at defending the legs from there. I also develop much power lunging forward off the back leg with the front leg light like that.
    But I will always switch.
    ( I also switch between squaring my feet up and using my hands, or lining them up sideways and using kicks, at times, for the extra speed and evasive ability that doing so lends to the usage of either of those [ punches and kicks] respectively.
    [ Much like many Karateka do] ).

  • @marcodegiovanni3696
    @marcodegiovanni3696 3 года назад +1

    With MMA rules The second stance is far better… I used to take down opponent with taller stance easily!
    Great video ad always

  • @ilyaibrahimovic9842
    @ilyaibrahimovic9842 2 года назад +1

    As a non-fighter and musician, I notice that there's not just different options and advantages to each stance or even a different strategy but a different psychology. Think stance as in someone's stance on some controversial issue. The underlying assumptions and attitude that produce the physical setup we call a stance are different before the physical stances ever appear. Don't know if this helps you at all in understanding what you're doing but thought I'd point it out

  • @marcsalazar2910
    @marcsalazar2910 Год назад +1

    Jeff, I love your vids, man. To answer your question, of course as any educated fighter would tell you, switch it up. Use both. There’s a time to utilize both stances, and as you pointed out, both have their benefits and their flaws. You already mix it up well. You seem to have switched back to the Muay Thai stance at the end of the video. I like to see that. I use a mixture of the two. I guess mine would be considered an MMA stance, but I refuse to stand bladed. I hate the blades stance. It doesn’t feel conducive or natural to me. That’s just my preference and my style I’ve adopted. After watching your vids, you’ve certainly adopted a very beautiful style of your own and I dig it. Btw, I’ve totally stolen a few of your techniques and used them in sparring. Absolute gold. Keep making your videos. They are pure inspiration. 🙏🏽🥊🔥🔥

  • @cjayx
    @cjayx 3 года назад +1

    Personal preference for everyone based on comments. I had an instructor who was a mma fighter, and always wanted me in that stance. It was never for me, so I always stayed up high. It never felt comfortable to keep myself low at punching height.

  • @henning14
    @henning14 3 года назад +3

    On the weekend I was at sparring session with many other fighters (Muay Thai, K1, Boxing, MMA). 20 rounds sparring on the feet.
    When I occasionally fought a boxer with a more bladed stance I realize that they move in and out quicker. I stayed in my usual Muay Thai stance and tried to make it working because I don’t do Boxing or MMA. Seems like good opportunity to work on cutting corner and stuff like this

  • @jordy4054
    @jordy4054 2 года назад +1

    I'd like to see you try the Muay Thai stance again but fighting someone trying to set up takedowns on you. See if you can still sprawl and stuff the takedowns, or get back up quickly enough to still use the Muay Thai stance effectively in the spar

  • @panosts6178
    @panosts6178 3 года назад +3

    Hi Jeff. Love your videos and your fights . I really like the sideways stance. Think Wonderboy Thompson or Raymond Daniels. Think of this stance as an in-between of the two you mentioned. Sidekicks are even more effective than teeps for blocking incoming blitzes and intercepting your opponents with power and you also have a great boxing base ( for straight punches anyway) and a wide enough stance to stop TDs. It is also great for setting up kicks over the shoulder and for blitzing your opponent with the constant bounce and explosive first step. The cons are that it is really high maintenance and both your leg durability and cardio must be superb to sustain this stance for 5 rounds but it can be done. Also head movement + angle creation are required when using this to properly maintain your distance and create striking opportunities. I have been fighting in point fighting and TKD since I was little and have recently transitioned to full contract kickboxing finding a lot of success against Thai style fighters and pure boxers by using this unusual style . Give it a try sometime. Even if it doesn't fit you it helps knowing how this works fir when you eventually fight a guy that uses a stance like that. Sorry for the long comment, much love.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      cheers!! thanks for watching!

  • @vanquese8947
    @vanquese8947 3 года назад +6

    Muay Thai so I can destroy my enemies with low kicks

    • @MatteoR77
      @MatteoR77 3 года назад +2

      u can use the leg kicks also with the mma stance

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master 3 года назад +1

      My man👌

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master 3 года назад +2

      @@MatteoR77 yes but the mechanics are different

    • @MatteoR77
      @MatteoR77 3 года назад

      @@Troupe_Master ok but the effectiveness i think is the same, i mean look at adesanya’s kicks for example

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master 3 года назад +2

      @@MatteoR77 Adesanya is a god compared to anyone of us that's a terrible example XD

  • @jontygardner
    @jontygardner 3 года назад +1

    Hey Jeff! Can you please do another 'Best tactics' or breakdown video of Alexander Volkanovski? Feel like he has a lot of new ones he has adopted and utilised since May 2020 when you made a video on him :)

  • @Jurr
    @Jurr 2 года назад +1

    As much as I believe the MMA stance is more versitaile, the Muay Thai stance has something beautiful and elegant to it. Maybe it’s just because I have a thing for it, but it can look so effortless, technical and powerful at once.

  • @eizaguirre2184
    @eizaguirre2184 3 года назад +1

    Obviously you are a much more experienced martial arts than I am. Where I practice Muay Thai they teach us to have like a marching stance. Yes more like 30/70 or 40/60 to protect from front kicks and check, but always shifting your weight and rocking back and fourth. That way you can again check but two make it easier to transition into strikes and feints. It seemed like you were more flat footed in the Muay Thai stance rather than the MMA stance, you had more bounce.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      yeah i was playing more defensively with the Muay Thai stance!

  • @ramseymodiri2752
    @ramseymodiri2752 3 года назад +1

    Do you ever use the 50 50 Muay Thai stance in mma? Square, still tallish, not as wide. I think Jorge Mas, Khalil round tree, and Jose Aldo use it. Seems good for checking calf kicks but less dangerous than the light lead leg Thai stance

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      sometimes but im not very great at it!

  • @stevethe5201
    @stevethe5201 3 года назад +1

    depends, use the Muaythai stance whern you want to rely more on kicking teeping and clinching and use the MMA or a more boxing stance when you want to punch, move or defend takedowns.
    Thai stance takes less energy, easiier to counter and makes the lower body strikes quicker and less telegraphed but the MMA stance takes more conditioning but yields quicker footwork, increased punching power, better head movement and most important the ability to defend take downs.
    In K1 either the Thai stance or using a combo ( think Raymond deckers) where when you want to kick and counter you do thai stance and when you want to box and wheel you use MMA stance and you use these interchangably thu out the fight.

  • @vagabond4576
    @vagabond4576 3 года назад +1

    The cons with the MMA stance even though its more balanced is exposing the leg. Other than some of my other martial arts. I mainly used a boxing stance similar to the MMA stance you have. When I went to one of the Muay Thai gyms. Even though my sparring partner was an ass and went 100 percent instead of 15 percent that the coach said. I learned a valuable lesson on not exposing the leg to a very strong Thai kick and an easy slam or dump. Not all Muay Thai stances are the same though either.Weight on the rear leg is more commercial and used mostly against a foreigner. But when Thais fight against each other seriously, they have more of a modified boxing stance where the weight is distributed evenly and never using the weight on the rear leg throughout the whole time. The other stance is the more squared stance even though its more exposed on the body. Power is almost even and hits are more unpredictable. But the weight on back foot stance is seldom used and over commercialized by movies and video games. While sparring is the most realistic next to fighting its a double edge sword of confidence and false confidence. You rarely see anybody unless its a street fight. Go all out with that much tempo. It reminds me of people that are good at paintball or airsoft that can beat military guys wont translate to a real fire fight when shit hits the fan.

  • @maenthusiast4209
    @maenthusiast4209 3 года назад +13

    Another great video Jeff, it's crazy how fast your reactions are. An interesting video idea could be a theory breakdown, like how you think when you spar and maybe a you could talk about tactics you used to improve. For example I always walk into class with a new technique from your videos and drill them in sparring.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +2

      thanks man and good idea!!

  • @rhidiandavies1991
    @rhidiandavies1991 2 года назад +1

    Aesthetically I prefer the muay thai stance but not sure it's the most practical stance for mma - you have good access to throws from the Thai clinch but obviously sacrifice the ability to blast a single or double leg with as much fluidity. You also lose a lot of mobility but then I suppose it's hard to say from a light sparring session because your partner can just walk through those teeps without worrying about taking damage, whereas in a match you'd expect him to have more respect for it as he tries to close the distance.

  • @thomastob9375
    @thomastob9375 3 года назад +1

    I practice Muay Thai first than only MMA . I always think that in sparring with the MMA stance will get kick and knee in the face easily . After watching so many of your video and realizing that's not the case.

  • @indigoflow19O
    @indigoflow19O 3 года назад +3

    This is great information, id enjoy seeing this same video but with takedowns involved to see the difference in takedown defense in the Muay Thai stance vs MMA stance when the striking, setups & feints come into play. I think we all know what the results would be, but watching it play out would be informative and entertaining. Who knows might find a surprise within the lesson. Thanks for the great content!

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn 3 года назад +1

    Bladed when facing a puncher or a guy who goes for low takedowns, squared and narrow when facing a kicker or a clincher. Regardless of the stance pop the jab and teep frequently and stay balanced :)

  • @BloodShedda
    @BloodShedda 3 года назад +1

    I would like to see more high kicks, more switch kicks, and more hooks to the body.

  • @castiel241
    @castiel241 3 года назад +1

    i like using a thai stance if i feel like the person is a bit straight forward aggressive and like using teeps to open them up/get them baiting on teep feints. long guard when i feel like i'm a bit quicker than them and if they're larger than me and try and use dodge/parrying more and a traditional high guard stance as a base.

  • @notjay9794
    @notjay9794 2 года назад +1

    I feel like your style of Muay Thai is a bit different to how they teach here in Aus where I'm from. Over here they teach to always keep your weight centred between both legs so you can check with the rear leg as well as be able to move more explosively with your strikes. Muay Thai is very popular here with a lot of trainers being ex Thai fighters

  • @Ratamahata7
    @Ratamahata7 3 года назад +2

    Second round slightly shifted from pronounced mma wide stance towards a less pronounced more mis thai/mma, with saenchai shuffle included (a lot like lerdsila stance).
    Great post Jeff. Thanks.

  • @felipe_sousa97
    @felipe_sousa97 3 года назад +1

    For Sanda, a wider stance is a little bit better because it's easier for in and out movements and also is better to defend takedowns, I tried to use the muay thai stance when I was training only kickboxing, but it's weird for me, I'm not that good using lead leg teeps and I can focus better on the fight when I'm light on my feet

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +1

      cheers!

    • @felipe_sousa97
      @felipe_sousa97 3 года назад

      @@MMAShredded thanks for delivering an amazing content for free with us :)

  • @closeredge5198
    @closeredge5198 3 года назад +1

    I stay in the Thai stance, as my style is balanced and evasive, countering shots technically.... MMA stance has benefits, but I also think it tends to favor those who are less relaxed in their movements

  • @wolfhawk1999
    @wolfhawk1999 2 года назад +2

    I generally mix it up in class. When I'm figuring out my partner and working defense, I stay in my Muay Thai stance often. Also I fall back on it when I get tired. When I move in and circle, it's generally a hybrid. When I throw combos, the stance changes pretty organically to a more "MMA" style stance

  • @hitman47784
    @hitman47784 3 года назад +2

    Great video. I can see you’re more comfortable in the MMA stance. For me, I would switch up in stances depending on my opponent. Guess it’s the same for you too.

  • @NBeaver-bx4yl
    @NBeaver-bx4yl 2 года назад +1

    just wanna say that your fighting style looks awesome. Idk why its just very fluid, fast and accurate.

  • @richmondsalazar7298
    @richmondsalazar7298 3 года назад +4

    it defends on the best weapon of your opponent.

  • @JRF1004
    @JRF1004 3 года назад +1

    Petr Yan makes the Muay Thai stance work in MMA pretty nicely

  • @alloverdaplace2043
    @alloverdaplace2043 3 года назад +1

    I'm a muay thai guy but realistically I understand the style has to change depending on the situation

  • @kylemccray8602
    @kylemccray8602 3 года назад +3

    I like both stances because you can mix them up to throw your opponents off

    • @bronstet
      @bronstet 3 года назад

      This. I mix in a sideways stance as well as switching leads to throw off my opponent.

    • @kylemccray8602
      @kylemccray8602 3 года назад +1

      @@bronstet that's awesome

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад

      cheers!!

  • @ahmaddafasalam5615
    @ahmaddafasalam5615 3 года назад +1

    Hey, Maybe not the most original idea, but can you make a video reviewing Webtoon Called Viral Hit, Viral Hit main character just your normal anti sosial student that get bullied every time, then learn how to beat the bully. the person who make this was Taejoon Park he been train some MMA, and in making this webtoon he get help/addvice from Real national korean champion BJJ and MMA
    so i would say fight technique of this webtoon is very good, with some exaggerated fight like 1 vs 5 , and very fast learning fight ability for the How to fight Main character.
    I see almost no regoniction/video about this Webtoon beside in South Korean it self. So i think its i great idea to get view from all non korean Viral hit reader, Coz it one of the most popular webtoon.

  • @rich_green_9610
    @rich_green_9610 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see more Muay Thai influenced sparring videos

  • @YeDwaySoe
    @YeDwaySoe 3 года назад +1

    I like MMA stance. You know Jeff. I inspired you and changed my stance since from the last year..
    Thanks bro as always...🙏

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +1

      thanks brother :) glad to hear!

  • @SR22VET-S15
    @SR22VET-S15 2 года назад +1

    Hi Jeff thank you for the informative videos, im asking out of curiosity as you mentioned that in they Muay Thai stance if the lead leg is shut down it limits your boxing, what if you end up in the clinch as most Muay Thai guys do in the close range? Will that work in MMA, or is there the chance of being taken down by a strong wrestler?

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  2 года назад +1

      it can work, Anderson Silva has capitalized the clinch in MMA. But I believe a good wrestler will beat the clinch

  • @degiguess
    @degiguess 2 года назад +1

    I really like the Muay Thai stance. It has it's draw backs but the main thing with it for me is how easily you can throw out teeps, I love the mobility and versatility of the MMA stance but for me personally those easy teeps are just too useful a tool to pass up.

  • @RomannSantanaa
    @RomannSantanaa 3 года назад +1

    I have the best stance in fighting history.

  • @conormurphy6458
    @conormurphy6458 3 года назад +1

    Anyone know the name/brand of the shin pads Jeff is wearing?

  • @hollowking7414
    @hollowking7414 2 года назад +1

    i just started training at a new gym. and my coach keeps telling me to keep my stance shorter because my stance is too long. however, i find that it works for me because i can move, switch stances, circle off, cut angles and counter strike alot smoother, especially going backwards. and of course produce more power. when im in a traditional muay thai stance, i find myself more stationary and more prone to getting hit. should i try to adapt to the traditional muay thai stance? or should i somehow convince my coach to let me be me?
    thank you in advance

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  2 года назад +2

      I would listen to him and give it a try, but if it still doesn't work for you or you prefer a different style, then tell him. A coaches job is to give you tools to make your style but not choose your style for you

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster Год назад

    Informational/education content needs to be either 30fps and 1/50th shutter speed or 50fps and 1/60th shutter speed in order to have enough smoothness, correct motion blur, and universal anti-flicker properties regardless of what region and what frequency their power lines operate at. Low frame rates like 24fps and 25fps hurt the eyes/brain as you try to process the motion smoothness that's missing and high framerates with default 180-degree rule shutter speeds look strobe-y and unnatural due to the lack of motion blur.
    Because motion blur is based on time and shutter speeds are a measurement of time, 1/60th for instance, will always look like 1/60th in terms of motion blur whether you record it once (still image), 24 times, 30, 50, or 60 times per second. And before you ask or criticize, yes, I can prove it. And no, I don't care what film school taught you. Never let so-called "education" get in the way of your learning.

  • @qleap99
    @qleap99 Год назад

    Jeff, I noticed that you sometimes lower one guard hand to parry leg/lower body kicks, moreso than Kevin, who doesn't seem to at all and just accepts leg kicks.
    2:44 (in Muay Thai stance)
    4:07 (successful)
    4:40 (in response to a feint)
    5:13
    5:19 (twice)
    I trained doing this as well but it was before the rise of MMA so it wasn't as dangerous.
    I wonder, if you're in a stance or position that isn't conducive to checking kicks with your leg and you can't evade, is it better to attempt low parrying (and risk having your head taken off or your arm damaged) or simply take the shots to the leg.
    BTW, I prefer using more of an "MMA" type stance.

  • @Atriptocambodia
    @Atriptocambodia Месяц назад

    What if use a TKD stnace and keep switching orthodox to southpaw while throwing spin back kivks and suddenly swithcing to mauy thai and throwing teeps and round kicks
    While sometimes clicnh and throw knees

  • @juhel5531
    @juhel5531 9 месяцев назад

    This dude doesn't have one hit KO power but I bet he totally has that in mind when making strategies and doing film studies.
    I wonder if we'll ever have videos about KO centric styles? I myself never had KO power but was able to develop body shot KO power through torque and learning to really dig in bodyshots so I wanna learn more. Things like learning how to add power to the lead hook by pulling the power hand back WITHOUT exposing yourself, or learning kick dexterity since your legs are so strong that a slap with your instep is already a KO shot if you have good accuracy.
    Strategies with a KO threat just work so much better. You don't even have to go for the KO just as long as that KO is always a threat, it forces your opponent to compensate the same way that muay thai fighters have to have an entire stance built around nullifying the power roundhouse kick. Even if you barely throw that move, the plethora of adjustments to it will net you a positive.

  • @PhobosRX
    @PhobosRX 2 года назад

    1:27 Kevin is a strong boxer with good footwork constantly fai- is a strong boxer with goo- as you can see. LMAO xd

  • @ypaut
    @ypaut Год назад +1

    Hello, thanks for the video! My grain of salt, been using the wider stance in boxing a little bit and liked it a lot.Felt solid with weight on the front leg. However since I started Muay Thai, this is obviously not possible anymore (constant low kicks or sweep), But this more upright position doesn't feel anything right to me, and I just can't pull anything off from there. I can't figure out any rythm like I could when boxing

  • @meesert
    @meesert 3 года назад +1

    Hey Jeff (or others), quick question: what do you think of instead of dodging or muay thai style checking leg kicks, putting weight on you leg and kinda lean into the kick. I think this is what causes a lot of the recent leg breaks in mma off calve kicks and in general it doesnt hurt so bad to eat a kick when you tense your tigh muscle. My coach prefers this kind of checking over lifting your leg because of the balance/takedown issue with lifting and when you pull away from the kick but the foot scrapes behind the knee it can cause the leg to give out.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +1

      yes ill do that as a last resort, if I dont see the kick coming , I will eat it and punch!

  • @TheLim211
    @TheLim211 2 дня назад

    You have more power in your MT stance. You can pity pater in your bladed stance a lot better with not as much power

  • @venomalex5871
    @venomalex5871 5 месяцев назад

    Am a muaythai fighter and it's true that with mma stance you have to be moving all the time or your f.... up.but I found that in mma stance j way more difficult to block kick and push kick my opponent with the lead leg but the boxing and head movement its way better in mma stance

  • @00MG00
    @00MG00 3 года назад

    MMA stands for Mix Marshal Arts. So how can you compare stance of Muy Thai, which is one of the Marshal Arts and stance of MMA. People don't know how MMA even stands for. It's ridiculous..

  • @PLONG12345
    @PLONG12345 2 года назад

    Ancient Pankration have the traditional Muay Thai stance now ancient pankration is Ancient MMA the only difference is you can do everything. Yet in spite of having a Muay Thai stance they punch well like boxers and recorded various sources concluded that Ancient pankration have many elite grapplers and while knockouts are common most matches ended with submission of all kind. Made me think why they adapt a muay thai stance that we in the modern day would consider a "no no" in competition full of elite grapplers maybe muay thai stance isnt bad at all.

  • @lefonwastaken3393
    @lefonwastaken3393 Год назад

    I personally don’t like the aesthetic of the Muay Thai stance and much rather prefer the mma stance. Now which is better in terms of functionality and self defence, only someone who’s an experienced fighter like yourself can tell

  • @loisbousselet2716
    @loisbousselet2716 3 года назад

    lot of editing, but i guess with MT stance the opponent doesn't try to get close because of the high leg, whereas mma stance leads to close combat and even takedown. In strict kickboxing i prefer MT

  • @PrinceOfPalestine
    @PrinceOfPalestine 3 года назад +1

    This helped me alot, realizing my mma stance isnt gonna work in my predominantly kickboxing/muay thai gym, thanks for this

  • @commandershepard1944
    @commandershepard1944 Год назад

    Muay Thai stance is weak fighting stance. We shouldn't forget that Muay Thai is a sport and the most effective techniques are decides by the rules of the sport.

  • @hayezmohairbi
    @hayezmohairbi 2 года назад

    I just noticed that you are mostly finishing with left kick I am not sure if that is ok or not but for the Sake of change use also the other leg and May be fish it with punch 🥊. Lol I have no experience but I watch a lot of mma. I also noticed the moi tai style you received less hits so it was kinda of less risky and when you change to mma stand it was more risky for you.

  • @souladaddy608
    @souladaddy608 2 года назад

    Was that a superman punch faint at 2:47 to 2:30. It looked awkward as hell lol big fan of the channel, love the content. In no way am I trying to disrespect you. Please keep doing what your doing

  • @bruhmoment-yt2zp
    @bruhmoment-yt2zp Год назад

    I still think good takedown defence and good Muay Thai will take you a long way in MMA bear in mind I'm a MT fanboys so I'm obviously wrong

  • @tuenmunki
    @tuenmunki 3 года назад

    MMA Stance is better than using teep to check the distance. This stance can easy to move in and out, especially step back with head movement. But in the rope, fence, the teep can easy to keep distance and defence.
    The stance depends on where you are at the ring.

  • @SkreltNL
    @SkreltNL 3 года назад

    What sucks about this video is the facebook tittle. Personal comparison for styles so others can have a sneak peak or something would be a shitty tittle anyway xD

  • @swampgoat6343
    @swampgoat6343 3 года назад +1

    Are you worried about getting your knee stomped out when you jab with your lead foot bladed like that? Ive always had a bladd front foot but after watching roundtree stomp that dudes knee out I'm hesitant to leave that opening.

    • @MMAShredded
      @MMAShredded  3 года назад +1

      I think someone skilled can time a counter low kick regardless of your stance!

  • @rawstrife9762
    @rawstrife9762 3 года назад

    Answer is simple, muay thai stance is better for muay thai fights with muay thai based scoring. Mma stance is better for MMA