Penguins' Star Still Among Best At His Position
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- On this episode, Nick recaps Evgeni Malkin's season and discusses why the Pittsburgh Penguins' legend should still be considered among the best second-line centers in the entire NHL. Tune In!
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Glad hear someone defending Malkin. He's been my favorite player ever since he came on the team. I can't stand the hate he gets
He gets hate because he's Russian...it's fashionable today among certain types
Penguins seriously need to consider Brenden Dillon, I know his history playing against us makes him an enemy but he has history with Erik Karlsson he was one of his best D partners of his career, he’s big, defensive minded, plays with some dirt, he makes the other team scared, look at it this way, if we make playoffs this year and we play say the rangers, who on our team would stop or deter a player like Jacob Trouba from head hunting Crosby or Kalrsson, Dillon wouldn’t stand for it and he is defensively valuable on top of that, he also had a career high in goals this past year
Yeah I honestly don’t know much about where his game is now, so I can’t really have my own opinion on him. But that sounds like the type of D man I’d want us to grab. And if we pair him with EK, then Petey and Letang can play together
@@christopheralbanese6689 he’s still pretty solid, and let’s be worst case scenario he plays third pairing with stivany and that would still be a very good shutdown pairing
I'm not saying im against getting Dillon because I actually would like that sign - but there is a 0% chance that having Dillon on the roster even remotely stops Trouba from doing Trouba things.
We need to stop acting like having a player on our roster will stop anybody from the other team from being dirty. NHL players don't care
@@jsebby2284 I worded that wrong, I should have said Dillon is capable of playing just as dirty so it would counter balance as we wouldn’t get one of our guys hurt without one of theirs having to answer the bell
@MDIFAU ahh - I gotcha. Thanks for the clarification
I would be very surprised I'd the Pens/Sully sent Dillon out to head hint with the sole purpose of injuring someone though
Marty Necas would be outstanding next to Bunting and Malkin. Plus Necas is a killer on the PP. They should be in on this ‘Necas wanting to leave Carolina’ situation.
I also thought he looked off throughout the season, but i severely disagree with the hate towards him. I thought putting up 27 goals this year was still really good. His point total wouldve been higher along with EK if the powerplay was even average. I'll always defend Geno ❤
Two things about 71. He shows up when HE wants to show up and penalty minutes. Do we hoestly think he plays a 200 ft game every shift? I've watched every game for about 15-16 years. My answer... hell no.
He's got twice as many sin bin mins as 87. It's an easy formula: Piss off 71, he retaliates and sits for 2. Over and over and over, for his entire career. The amount of time, over 1100+ mins, on the PK. Think about how many opportunities the Pens could've had instead of killing off 71's penalties. Still among the best? Come on. Are we being slightly biased?
No we're being realistic
Well said, Nick!
I love Malkin I truly do. Comparing him to second line centers I believe speaks to his regression. The power play was very bad. My hate towards Malkin has always been his contract. Makes the same as Crosby. He’s always needed line mates. Crosby makes career 3rd liners into top six forwards. The decision making, tossing passes across the blue line, his temper and bad penalties and his watching him give up on back checks. Huge part of our team couldn’t have done it without him but frustrating also. Karlsson is killing us and I don’t hear about it. He has to score 100 points because he will be responsible for 50 against us. I saw a play where Jarry moved it to the corner for him. He stopped looked at Jarry like I don’t do that and the puck ends up in the net seconds later.
The PP being bad doesn't fall on him.
He doesn't have a bad contract. He makes a lot less than Crosby. He hasn't always needed linemates. Karlsson isn't killing us - which is why you don't here about it. And he doesn't have to score 100 points
Like it or not, Geno is still score. Don’t like it? Geno is still score. Want him traded? Well, Geno will be score where ever he goes too
I would rather a new 3c than 2c but i don't see an issue moving him to wing in the future. With the addition of bunting though, im not sure its necessary now. You just have to surround him with the right pieces. rak and smith were terrible and anchored to him most season.
How many goals against would Malkin have gotten primary or secondary assist on because of his bumbling passing? He should have been traded two to three years ago.
No he shouldn't have lol
Why do most people only look at stats when it comes to players like 71, 65 & 58. These guys are terrible at puck management, situational awareness and they only rely on their skills. Relying on skills only can be great at times, but to me that tells me a player most of the time doesn’t think the game very well & cheat too much. When you cheat a player most likely are out of position,these 3 gifted players can be fun/entertaining to watch, but also extremely infuriating at least to me they are. No stops & starts with 71, it’s just fly byes & big loops. Watch when he doesn’t have the puck, he very rarely engages the opponent to take the puck from them and his stick is rarely in a defensive position, usually holding it almost knee high..extremely low hockey IQ.
I was ok with trading one or both of 71 & 58 after the 2018 season. 58 had a disastrous playoffs that year and honestly 71 only shows up when he wants to & these days it’s when mom & dad are in town. His body language has always been terrible & for the past 4 or 5 yrs he looks like he isn’t very motivated to prove anything. Also, WHY!? Is he still positioned at the point on the PP!!!? Big body and can’t be a net front presence? All he accomplishes (mostly) is high risk telegraphed passes to 65 & 58 or shoots the puck into the PKers shin pads (65 & 58 do that a lot too). If he happens to get a puck through it’s usually a harmless floater.
So a solid 2nd line center (yay points) who appears to have a hard time driving his line, never seems to have very much chemistry with his wingers & honestly looks like he never communicates with them very well either. It’s difficult playing on a line with someone like that (along with the negative body language) who plays a style of hockey more suitable for pond hockey. How many times do i let a lone his wingers need to watch him skate 4 or 5 laps around the perimeter in the offensive zone only to take a fadeaway floater at the blue line😂😂😂😂. I’m sorry but these are the types of issues that doesn’t make me a Geno fan overall & it’s one of the bigger reasons why we couldn’t get out of the first round since 2018 & missed the playoffs for 2 yrs in a row. But people seem to think Jarry is a bigger reason why😂.
Now Daddy Dubas had to go and fetch a 10million dollar player who plays much like 71 & 58, just doesn’t make any sense. Like i told my brother when we acquired 65 last year & he agreed..we weren’t making the playoffs this year. Hextall made a mess and i think Daddy Dubas is making his own mess, but Jarry😂
Because stats matter.
Trading Malkin or Letang would've been idiotic
The EK trade was good
Slow, no energy, little engagement at defence, lost his PP blast from the point. Great that he is 5-6 in point among 2nd line centers. But the guy has all the starts in offensive zone, he is not top 30 second line centers in terms of defence, and his team is out of playoffs for two seasons in a row. Stephenson, O’Reilly or Kadri scores less, but these are players you win with. And look at Dallas, their centers are nowhere near 100 point mark, but these guys are on a run right now. It is not only about points, it is about a lot of things
Right because the Pens have never won with Malkin hahahaha. Hes better than the guys you mentioned. He also doesn't get all offensive zone starts
You're correct though - it is about a lot of things. And those lot of things say Malkin is good
Karlsson kept turning it over lol clowns
65 and 58 are high-risk / high-reward. It's infuriating
Bro, stop just stop. Malkin shouldn’t have been resigned. They should’ve went after Trocheck. That doesn’t take away from what Malkin accomplished, but lifetime achievement awards doesn’t cut it anymore.
Bro just stop. Malkin should've been resigned. They shouldn't have gone after Trocheck instead of Malkin. It's not about lifetime achievement - it's about signing the better player
@@jsebby2284 Trocheck has been a main catalyst in leading the Rags the past two years. He’s a lot younger than Malkin & is the better player. We haven’t made the playoffs the past two seasons. Take off the Geno glasses & see the facts.
@TheEdog37 I mean "main" is a bit vague so I guess it depends on how you define it. He's probably the 7th best/important player on the team so I wouldn't really consider that main.
Obviously he's younger than Malkin but he's not the better player
We wouldn't have made the playoffs with Trocheck either lol - so what's your point? I'm the one actually seeing the facts though - theres no Geno glasses here. Maybe take off your Trocheck glasses and take a look around instead
@@jsebby2284 let’s see, Trocheck was the second leading scorer on the Rags in the regular season & is their leading scorer in the playoffs. He had more goals, assists, & points then Geno. His +/- was better than Geno’s. He plays in all situations & takes important faceoffs. But Geno is the better player. Gotcha🙄
Yes we would’ve made the playoffs with Trocheck since he would’ve been a better 2nd line center threat.
@TheEdog37 yes Geno is the better player. The evidence proves this. Give Malkin Panarin/Lafrienere as wingers and the Rangers PP and he would've had 90+ points.
No - we wouldn't have. Because Trocheck isn't a better 2nd line center threat. I understand Trocheck is from Pittsburgh so people want him on the team and there's some weird section of the fanbase that had always hated Malkin - but the reality is Trocheck isn't better than Malkin. The Pens wouldn't be better with Trocheck