Detailed analysis of the model. So, I’ve just ordered one as I was on the waitlist and luckily I got a space. I have a number of studio scale replicas from different franchises. This will be my only Batman piece. Clearly there are limitations which have to be expected from such large panels made from thermoplastic. Ultimately these are eye candy pieces. Designed to be placed inside a glass case ideally and just admired visually. In this regard, this model knocks it out the park. It will be hard to beat ever, even at this price point which will make it a very desirable piece moving forward and I suspect, like my other studio scale replicas it will only ever appreciate in value. All the ‘toy like’ appendages, such as the lights, turbine, smoke, gas cap etc I see just interactive enhancements. It’s great they’ve been included in the model but in reality will see little to no use once in place and properly displayed. It’s all about the aesthetic of the model as a whole. In some small way, the imperfections of the panel mouldings add some element of realism to my eye. I don’t see this fictitious vehicle as a concourse show car, it’s a tool to do a job, a weapon for the streets. It’s pretty much perfect in this regard, warts and all.
Jazz batmobile was made by one man that has a hand full of family working for him. all assembled by the cheapest bidder in China! these are not hand crafted and Jazz has very limited capital to even get these made. All of you in comments complaining about " for the price " are so dumb. people don't buy Jazz inc for any other reason then they are the only people making a product, however this is the first comparable and side by side Jazz's version is hands down the better version, there is a reason why any negative is followed by " for the price " because you have nothing else. Hot toys is a toy and Jazz is a collectible, both have QC issues and both suffer from equal issues in mass production flaws. If you think Jazz was ever about quality ... that is on you and your ignorance!
Great great review finally. It is great comparison what I took from the whole entire video is the price point and the promises that were essentially made us to believe to perfection when clearly there are imperfections. I don’t know if it was all the hype or like I said the misleading and I do know back in April I believe, they rejected about 40 of them and in the video they only show the body show so I’m wondering if this was an issue that they were having in the beginning and they finally just said this is the best we can do I’m not sure what went on there, but it is an improvement if there is another one following one from another company or from them or from hot toys hopefully it just keeps getting better but as for the price points plus the shipping is too much for this car a nice price point of $1000 would’ve sufficed almost all their products that they sell is the same price $1500 and that’s for shipping. I’m not sure what shipping service they use but that’s incredibly high as well. I order statues and I don’t pay nowhere near that amount of money. I think it’s just too much money and for the money, they should’ve technically redone them or a better job in quality control possibly shut themselves in the foot on top of the monstrosity they had with the shipping damages
"Hobby-made by a professional" is exactly I how I thought of on all my Jazzinc purchases. It felt as if I bought a garage kit resin and commissioned somebody to assemble and finish it. It doesn't exactly scream premium product especially for the price. Sort of disappointing it's still the case for the 1989 Batmobile. I had high expectations Jazzinc will pull out all the stops for this piece and believed this will be their undisputed best product. Unfortunately, it's not the case.
I agree with you on the engineering parts. I have the Jazzinc ZS JL Batmobile Signature Edition. The precision between molds, the canopy opening and closing system feels lacking, and a bit loose. I see that it continues on this 89 Batmobile unfortunately. I still dig the overall more accurate look on the Jazzinc than the HT, and still waiting for mine in the next batch. But yeah, the engineering, all the little details you mentioned, the paint finish could be much better. Anyway, I enjoyed your very detailed review and comparison. Wish you made this video a lot sooner.
I have the hottoys version and it looks more like a toy than a collectible. I’m expecting the jazz inc version soon and I’ll do my own comparison but either way it’s great to have the opportunity to have both.
Personally for me the Hot Toys looks very Toyish, something you’d find in a kids store. Where the Jazzinc literally looks like it’s been pulled from the film itself and scaled down.
Lol at all the complaints. i.e. “I paid $1500 therefore I expect perfection.” Look the Jazzinc smokes the mass produced Hot Toys Batmobile hands down but the Jazzinc is still a bespoke custom made piece that is always going to cost more because they are mostly handcrafted, painted and assembled. The minor imperfections are going to be there in every single one. At the end of the day it’s an impressive piece to have in any collection. I challenge anyone who is so hung up on the imperfections to go and build one yourself that is perfect and accurate and better than Joost’s.
well said, to focus on the canopy and levers and gas cap how they move etc is so trivial since this is a DISPLAY piece...it's not being driven on public roads ...and texture in the paint was on the original as well so that's also trivial...i prefer a more handmade look to some idealized perfection that isn't on the original car ...is it fair to comment on improvements? sure, anyone can from their armchairs but then find someone who can do it better or return it
I think toynami's cinemaquette is the best version by far but it's 1:8. Jazz Inc. has a better form than hot toys but hot toys beats jazz in terms of quality. neither car is perfect but jazz inc looks overall better despite the dents issues. However, I'd say it's a bit overpriced.
Some good points to the video(s) but also some points that aren't so good. I think you judge the JazzInc model way more harshly than you do the Hot Toys model - looking at certain areas of the Hot Toys you can see why it's the cheaper of the two, but at $750 it also doesn't offer great value for money (VFM). It's only fair to care them based on current costs, rather than the bargain $300-400 you managed to get one for. I don't think you can let the HT model off it's faults just because it's cheaper - it's still a hugely expensive model and should be judged equally harshly. With the Hot Toys you gloss over that really awkward molding join on the back wing - it runs all the way down the fin, and the screw hole covers are really noticeable - if you're being "nitpicky" about the JI model I think it's only fair to apply the same fine-tooth comb to the HT version? That, for me, makes it look like a toy, rather than a screen accurate collectible. Not only that, but you also overlook completely the very obvious screw points under the wheel arches that hold two segments together. You also ignore the very obvious molding line about half way along the rear fin. Now, regarding the paint finish: I went out, having watched your video, and had a look at my real car parked on the driveway. I ran my iPhone torch along it - and guess what? It's not smooth, it's not consistent, it's not one continual finish no matter how you move the torch - it has variations, swirls, whirls, direction changes and flecks - and for that the JazzInc gets it right - this isn't supposed to be a toy, it's supposed to be a representation of the Batmobile in the film - I guarantee you, if you look at that car with a torch through a macro lens, there's no way that's going to be one texture. I don't understand the argument that you want it to be silky smooth - the original isn't! Regarding the canopy, the movement on the Hot Toys is better, no argument there. But again, are you looking for screen accuracy or for a playable toy? Because the JI model is far more accurate, the HT is more user friendly for giant hands. The levers - well, again, you forgive the HT for having ugly plastic looking levers compared to the screen accurate JI ones because they are more firmly installed - me, personally, I prefer how they look in 1:6 scale rather than how they feel in my 1:1 hands... I get the whole point of these 3 videos was a "satisfaction per dollar" review, but I think that misses the point. Honestly, they're both aspirational, way too expensive to be justified, models for guys who are able to waste some disposable income - whether that's $750 or $1750, both are frankly crazy prices when you explain it outside of our hobby. The likelihood is that most people will have one compared to the other, you're lucky to have both. But honestly, the look of the JazzInc Batmobile, that attention to detail, the accuracy, the lighting, the steam effect, the silhouette of it - all just blows the mind. I don't mind the paint application not being perfect - the Batmobile was handcrafted (in both the film and in the story) - it would have had imperfections and marks, and I think the HT model's uniformity, it's look of having been molded in colour, actually makes it look more like a toy than a real life vehicle, especially when combined with those somewhat lazy panel joins with screw covers - for $750 I think that's unforgivable. The JazzInc looks more like the car that roared across our screens in 89, and I love it.
also totally agree...such trivial points that miss the point of what this model represents and what is under the skin and behind the design....it would be like rejecting a supermodel because she has a mole on her cheek or a chip in her tooth ...and people don't seem to realize that most of the cost of creating something like this is in design and testing and tooling, not the actual building ...so to say oh it's not worth $1500 is showing a lack of consideration as to what goes into making a limited run ...because Jazzinc will never be able to recover costs or profit the same way HT can
Its supposed to LOOK like the real car, not function like it. Its meant to be a static prop, not a toy you play with like when you were 10 years old. The fitment being loose is totally irrelevant given what this was designed to be.
Detailed analysis of the model.
So, I’ve just ordered one as I was on the waitlist and luckily I got a space. I have a number of studio scale replicas from different franchises. This will be my only Batman piece.
Clearly there are limitations which have to be expected from such large panels made from thermoplastic. Ultimately these are eye candy pieces. Designed to be placed inside a glass case ideally and just admired visually. In this regard, this model knocks it out the park. It will be hard to beat ever, even at this price point which will make it a very desirable piece moving forward and I suspect, like my other studio scale replicas it will only ever appreciate in value.
All the ‘toy like’ appendages, such as the lights, turbine, smoke, gas cap etc I see just interactive enhancements. It’s great they’ve been included in the model but in reality will see little to no use once in place and properly displayed. It’s all about the aesthetic of the model as a whole.
In some small way, the imperfections of the panel mouldings add some element of realism to my eye. I don’t see this fictitious vehicle as a concourse show car, it’s a tool to do a job, a weapon for the streets. It’s pretty much perfect in this regard, warts and all.
The defects suck, but they kind of give it a hand-made feel, almost like the real thing would have had
Hot Toys is just molded black plastic that was clear coated.
Jazz batmobile was made by one man that has a hand full of family working for him. all assembled by the cheapest bidder in China! these are not hand crafted and Jazz has very limited capital to even get these made. All of you in comments complaining about " for the price " are so dumb. people don't buy Jazz inc for any other reason then they are the only people making a product, however this is the first comparable and side by side Jazz's version is hands down the better version, there is a reason why any negative is followed by " for the price " because you have nothing else. Hot toys is a toy and Jazz is a collectible, both have QC issues and both suffer from equal issues in mass production flaws.
If you think Jazz was ever about quality ... that is on you and your ignorance!
Stop 😭 man
He actually used a team in China for this. But I agree it's Joost has big Balls to invest his life to our hobby.
Great great review finally. It is great comparison what I took from the whole entire video is the price point and the promises that were essentially made us to believe to perfection when clearly there are imperfections. I don’t know if it was all the hype or like I said the misleading and I do know back in April I believe, they rejected about 40 of them and in the video they only show the body show so I’m wondering if this was an issue that they were having in the beginning and they finally just said this is the best we can do I’m not sure what went on there, but it is an improvement if there is another one following one from another company or from them or from hot toys hopefully it just keeps getting better but as for the price points plus the shipping is too much for this car a nice price point of $1000 would’ve sufficed almost all their products that they sell is the same price $1500 and that’s for shipping. I’m not sure what shipping service they use but that’s incredibly high as well. I order statues and I don’t pay nowhere near that amount of money. I think it’s just too much money and for the money, they should’ve technically redone them or a better job in quality control possibly shut themselves in the foot on top of the monstrosity they had with the shipping damages
"Hobby-made by a professional" is exactly I how I thought of on all my Jazzinc purchases. It felt as if I bought a garage kit resin and commissioned somebody to assemble and finish it. It doesn't exactly scream premium product especially for the price. Sort of disappointing it's still the case for the 1989 Batmobile. I had high expectations Jazzinc will pull out all the stops for this piece and believed this will be their undisputed best product. Unfortunately, it's not the case.
I agree with you on the engineering parts. I have the Jazzinc ZS JL Batmobile Signature Edition. The precision between molds, the canopy opening and closing system feels lacking, and a bit loose.
I see that it continues on this 89 Batmobile unfortunately. I still dig the overall more accurate look on the Jazzinc than the HT, and still waiting for mine in the next batch.
But yeah, the engineering, all the little details you mentioned, the paint finish could be much better.
Anyway, I enjoyed your very detailed review and comparison. Wish you made this video a lot sooner.
I have the hottoys version and it looks more like a toy than a collectible. I’m expecting the jazz inc version soon and I’ll do my own comparison but either way it’s great to have the opportunity to have both.
Personally for me the Hot Toys looks very Toyish, something you’d find in a kids store. Where the Jazzinc literally looks like it’s been pulled from the film itself and scaled down.
Great video
Lol at all the complaints. i.e. “I paid $1500 therefore I expect perfection.” Look the Jazzinc smokes the mass produced Hot Toys Batmobile hands down but the Jazzinc is still a bespoke custom made piece that is always going to cost more because they are mostly handcrafted, painted and assembled. The minor imperfections are going to be there in every single one. At the end of the day it’s an impressive piece to have in any collection. I challenge anyone who is so hung up on the imperfections to go and build one yourself that is perfect and accurate and better than Joost’s.
well said, to focus on the canopy and levers and gas cap how they move etc is so trivial since this is a DISPLAY piece...it's not being driven on public roads ...and texture in the paint was on the original as well so that's also trivial...i prefer a more handmade look to some idealized perfection that isn't on the original car ...is it fair to comment on improvements? sure, anyone can from their armchairs but then find someone who can do it better or return it
I think toynami's cinemaquette is the best version by far but it's 1:8. Jazz Inc. has a better form than hot toys but hot toys beats jazz in terms of quality. neither car is perfect but jazz inc looks overall better despite the dents issues. However, I'd say it's a bit overpriced.
Some good points to the video(s) but also some points that aren't so good. I think you judge the JazzInc model way more harshly than you do the Hot Toys model - looking at certain areas of the Hot Toys you can see why it's the cheaper of the two, but at $750 it also doesn't offer great value for money (VFM). It's only fair to care them based on current costs, rather than the bargain $300-400 you managed to get one for. I don't think you can let the HT model off it's faults just because it's cheaper - it's still a hugely expensive model and should be judged equally harshly.
With the Hot Toys you gloss over that really awkward molding join on the back wing - it runs all the way down the fin, and the screw hole covers are really noticeable - if you're being "nitpicky" about the JI model I think it's only fair to apply the same fine-tooth comb to the HT version? That, for me, makes it look like a toy, rather than a screen accurate collectible. Not only that, but you also overlook completely the very obvious screw points under the wheel arches that hold two segments together. You also ignore the very obvious molding line about half way along the rear fin.
Now, regarding the paint finish: I went out, having watched your video, and had a look at my real car parked on the driveway. I ran my iPhone torch along it - and guess what? It's not smooth, it's not consistent, it's not one continual finish no matter how you move the torch - it has variations, swirls, whirls, direction changes and flecks - and for that the JazzInc gets it right - this isn't supposed to be a toy, it's supposed to be a representation of the Batmobile in the film - I guarantee you, if you look at that car with a torch through a macro lens, there's no way that's going to be one texture. I don't understand the argument that you want it to be silky smooth - the original isn't!
Regarding the canopy, the movement on the Hot Toys is better, no argument there. But again, are you looking for screen accuracy or for a playable toy? Because the JI model is far more accurate, the HT is more user friendly for giant hands.
The levers - well, again, you forgive the HT for having ugly plastic looking levers compared to the screen accurate JI ones because they are more firmly installed - me, personally, I prefer how they look in 1:6 scale rather than how they feel in my 1:1 hands...
I get the whole point of these 3 videos was a "satisfaction per dollar" review, but I think that misses the point. Honestly, they're both aspirational, way too expensive to be justified, models for guys who are able to waste some disposable income - whether that's $750 or $1750, both are frankly crazy prices when you explain it outside of our hobby. The likelihood is that most people will have one compared to the other, you're lucky to have both. But honestly, the look of the JazzInc Batmobile, that attention to detail, the accuracy, the lighting, the steam effect, the silhouette of it - all just blows the mind. I don't mind the paint application not being perfect - the Batmobile was handcrafted (in both the film and in the story) - it would have had imperfections and marks, and I think the HT model's uniformity, it's look of having been molded in colour, actually makes it look more like a toy than a real life vehicle, especially when combined with those somewhat lazy panel joins with screw covers - for $750 I think that's unforgivable.
The JazzInc looks more like the car that roared across our screens in 89, and I love it.
also totally agree...such trivial points that miss the point of what this model represents and what is under the skin and behind the design....it would be like rejecting a supermodel because she has a mole on her cheek or a chip in her tooth ...and people don't seem to realize that most of the cost of creating something like this is in design and testing and tooling, not the actual building ...so to say oh it's not worth $1500 is showing a lack of consideration as to what goes into making a limited run ...because Jazzinc will never be able to recover costs or profit the same way HT can
Seems like the Hottoys is molded in color and the Jazzinc is painted. Id personally like MIC like the hotmtoys much better
Its supposed to LOOK like the real car, not function like it. Its meant to be a static prop, not a toy you play with like when you were 10 years old. The fitment being loose is totally irrelevant given what this was designed to be.
Wow those sanding marks in Jazz at the price point are unacceptable.
be honest it is a bad design. Great company. Stop trying to justify the imperfections. It’s a bad design.