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In uk and some European countries you can become a lawyer right after high school, law schools are undergrad schools , also law school becomes Hella expensive
@Anuj Ingle that's why u shouldn't go to med school unless you get scholarships, stress and debt aren't worth it , but Indian parents force us to become doc / engineer Rip indian kids
@Anuj Ingle oh lol. i thought u were here in america, so i thought it was a hgue achievement. but neverhteless i wish you tthe best and hopefully you can save the lives of many people around the world!
I'm the other side or the argument, college is way more fun than adulthood, and getting grades is way less responsibility than showing up to work early every day. I'd much rather go to school forever than work forever.
I feel like it's worth highlighting how associates degrees can be used as a stepping stone before transferring to a 4-year college for a bachelor's degree. Especially if you're lower income or didn't do as well in high school
I did that. I went to a community college first and then to a state school abd it saves so much money. If I am going to be honest though I am not low income but I still don't mind saving money
To be honest an associate's degree really should only need 30 credits. But the college industry forces unnecessary classes on the students to make more money.
Thats all ive been thinking about ever since i started college i have no problem completing and showing up to the classes but why would i waste my time and money doing something i already completed in highschool
@@boraxguy8302 how would an associates degree be 30 tho an associates in engineering take clac 1,2,3 differential equations linear algebra and discrete math engineering physics 1,2 and some comunty college have engineering physics 3 ect that alone is over 30 credits and it’s not even taking into account electrical circuits and all the ENR classes
I spent first two years of school at the community college before transferring to a four year school. I saved a lot of money by doing that, I actually was able to pay off my classes at the community school with the money that I earned from my part time job, it was that cheap. The four year school that I transferred to charged me over 17K per semester, let that sink in...
Brother, SAME HERE! Im so glad I did that too. Ill owe a little bit on Student Loan debt once I graduate from Uni next year but Going to community college is the best route out of highschool or people returning to get an associates!
I went to the one of the best Community College’s in the US for FREE(for the first two years.) Free tuition, free books, and even my college application fees were covered. I transferred to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo in California last year and have enough money saved up(plus some financial aid and parental help) to graduate debt free.
My first year engineering prof said: "Getting a B.Eng. and then Professional Engineering designation (P.Eng.) should be good enough. I don't think a Masters or PhD is useful for engineers." And I completely agree. The ROI on advanced degrees for engineering graduates is very very low and not even worth the financial and time investment. It's better to get your foot in the door after getting a Bachelors. You'll be 2+ years ahead in your career as compared to advanced degree pursuers. I know somebody from my batch who went on to get a Masters in Aerospace Engineering and she was looking for a job for 1+ years so advanced degrees isn't even a guarantee for quick employment.
@@The_StrangeMan It's really up to you. In this job market and these uncertain times, I personally don't think it's wise to accumulate more and more debt and that too for something that might give you just a little more value and cred in your resume. I love learning but now I solve math theorems and learn about rocketry for free on the side while I work as a Systems Engineer full time (I graduated with my BEng in 2019). Try to get an internship during your college years and grab whatever engineering opportunity you get right out of university even if the pay isn't great. Work there for 6 months and then bounce.
@@AngelofHogwarts Thanks man. I’m really worried and want something sustainable for my future. To increase odds of acceptance and higher salary, I think it would be worth it to go for a Master’s
@@The_StrangeMan Yeah, it's totally up to you. You do what you think is good for your career path. But just for comparison's sake: I'm making a little more after 2 years of industry experience than my Masters of Engineering friend is making right out of university. Except I don't have an additional $35k+ in student debt during Covid. :l
I'm getting my Master's degree 14 years after getting my Bachelor's. It was the best decision I've made, and I'm glad I waited and have life experience now. I'm going to be applying for PhD. programs too.
I've done admissions at grad programs at three different universities. I always preferred students who had been out working before going back to grad school as they often manage to build the soft skills needed to succeed. Those directly out of undergrad often think it's "more of the same" which it isn't. (Or at least it shouldn't be.)
@@alexanderhalavais8837 Oh, it totally isn't the same as undergrad. At all. And I'm so glad I have the life experiences to enrich my education at this point. Plus, the ability to self-regulate and self-study is super important and often, you get that through life experiences. At least I did. Now, those skills are invaluable.
Just a quick note: the bachelor's degree is tied to four years because of federal financial aid. It would be nice for colleges and universities to have more flexible options
Look into western govoners university, I'm going there and I love but it's online and they only have a few options for majors. It's an online school that's self paced. I can work and still do well in school. If your looking for a degree that's flexible it's worth checking out.
@@newfoundling9275 did you finish at WGU? I’m looking into it for computer science, I want to be a software engineer but not sure if it’s looked “down upon” since it’s only online.
I have learned a lot about college stuff and different degrees since I've been subscribed to your channel. Can't thank you enough for everything you teach here.
Ph.D. Here (Neuroscience): this absolutely nails it, especially the poor ROI for the Ph.D. You absolutely have to go in to it for the love of the subject. I do think that we make the mistake of looking at bachelor degrees as professional training. The purpose is to produce broadly well educated, thoughtful people. It was never designed to be a trade school.
I was interested in neuroscience, but I wanted a degree that can not just make me an academic career, but also can act as a professional degree, hence I chose Clinical Psychology And yes, after starting grad school by recently finishing my B.S., I can say that I pretty much learned nothing in my undergrad. Might as well just read through a bunch of wiki articles. However, grad school is a completely different ball game, from learning case studies, to making diagnoses, and conducting my independent research project. I learnt more in 3 months of grad school than I did in 4 years of my undergrad
@@milagrostucci6013 not ignorant in the slightest! the MCAT is for medical school, so pretty much only MD's take it. Most Ph.D. programs use the GRE, and many of them (Psychology, for example) have field specific add-ons for the GRE in addition to the main test. LSAT is for law, and I believe business has it's own test but I forget what it is.
I advice people to get an Associate’s degree in a community college. Your credits most likely will transfer to a 4-year, but make sure you get well informed. You will save a lot of money and will only need 2 years at the university you transfer for a bachelors. If you get financial aid and it covers all tuitions costs, while in the community college, you’ll most likely get refunds. Save that money if possible and use it for when you transfer to the uni. You will probably get financial aid there too, but it wont cover the whole tuition sometimes. Use the money you have saved from before and don’t end up with crazy student debt. If you’re going for a Masters, ask if the institution offers programs to finish that degree in half the time plus the requirements. Some places have those opportunities and it can save so much time and money.
i plan on doing the 2yrAssociates to 2yrBachelors transfer program at my community college but i have a question not sure if you could answer.. is the transfer program only for like academically gifted people like ppl who can afford to skip those first 2 years of university? lol cuz idk if that would pertain to me.. like i wonder why doesn’t everyone go with the 2+2yr method cuz it seems so much easier & cost efficient.
so if I go to a community. do two years at the community college, then change to a four year college. I will only need two more years to get my batchlors degree.
Bro it's crazy on how majority of white people go for bullsht loans with interests, like parents should be helpful in this regard with lending them some money.
@@allysonhutchens831 BS is bachelor of science so a degree with more emphasis on science and maths. BA is bachelor of arts and focuses on humanities and arts
It really has to do with what any particular university decides to offer that graduate degree in (MA, or MS, or both...example: most universities offer a graduate degree in math in both a MA & MS form, the difference being what is required in addition to the required math classes). Most MA programs require liberal arts study, say demonstrating foreign language proficiency, whereas the MS might require additional math or physics classes, but the "core" requirements for both types of degrees is usually almost the same.
I got a Bachelors Degree inside of 1 year. The community college I attended have thrown so many classes at me because they neglected to tell me that the program I chose was no longer offered so the upside was that they have given me classes that were close to my program. Nevertheless, this was a blessing in disguise because I walked away with 2 Associates degrees, and a Bachelors in less time it would have taken me to attend school. Same for my Masters Degree. I have been working on my Master’s since March and I graduate next August. Look at God!!!
@@user-ls2jg7vl2h for the Bachelors Degree it was Liberal Arts and for my Masters they are Masters of Human Services with the concentration in Grief Counseling and the 2nd Masters is in Education
So I think it's safe to say "Learning never stops" but it doesnt mean you have to get a Phd lol. Just my 2 cents. Thank you so much for all the information man!
Im in my first year of college, took up accounting and finance, will be doing an mba in the future, thank you shane, because of you i was able to take an informed decision, though i couldnt get my dream college 💔i landed up in my safety school but i dont care now, ill give it my all and make it to a top investment bank.
The GOAT when it comes to educating us, college students, is back again! Good work, Shane, we appreciate your vids. I wish for your channel to grow bigger in the future.
@@ShaneHummus wow its like you read my mind. Can you do one on a DBA vs PHD. You still get the title of Dr. With both according to my research and as you said it's much shorter. I will be done with my dba in 7 semesters including summer. Could have been done in 6 had I taken 15 credit hours for the first 2 semesters instead of 12
Physics is similar; it’s about 5/6 years typically (assuming no credits carry for coursework) but can be about 4 years if you come in with a masters which can clear your first two years. I think the sciences have similar scales while with engineering PhDs are shortest (seen some as low as 3yr )
I once heard of a social scientist finishing her PhD in 18 months out of spite... not sure whether she got an MA first or what coursework she had to do, but still. DAMN. Powerful.
Engineering and natural sciences tend to run shorter than social sciences and humanities Ph.D.s. I was 5 years from the start of my masters to a social sciences Ph.D., but this was significantly quicker than most complete. (I had the advantage of a spouse supporting me, and a spouse supporting me finishing as quickly as possible :).) It was generally 5-6 years to complete the Ph.D. in my program.
I am at the end of my PhD program (Public Health, specializing in Epidemiology). I will be setting my defense date within the next couple of weeks. So far, I’m working in my field and can see with added experience where my degree will pay off 😮💨 thank goodness. It took me six years to complete, just shy of my 30th birthday. This is really good information 👍🏾
Man you're who i wanted to be, but i goofed around in college. Trying to get my master's by 30. Currently 26. Congradulations. How did your defense go?
You forgot the degree with the best ROI of them all: *the trade certification.* Picture a "degree" that takes 3 semesters at most at a community college and then you work for 50k+ a year at the age of 20. Us tradesmen have it made, but mad respect to the doctors and lawyers out there.
The key here is to pick a pathway that meets your interests. The trades are not for everyone, and depending on the trade, it may not have the kind of long-term security other jobs can offer. (During the most recent economic downturn, like those that came before, those without a four-year degree were far less likely to be unemployed than those without, and those with post-graduate degrees saw very little job loss at all.) Again, depending on the trade, you may find your body doesn't work as well as your brain does as you enter the second half of your life. None of this, however, goes against your point. The ROI (especially given the lower opportunity cost) can be quite good. And although I didn't go this route, I know people who went through a trade school and worked their way slowly through degree programs while making a solid living in their trade. Kind of the best of both worlds.
From Tradesmen, PhDs, to Associate degrees, ALL at some point in their lives, require the assistance of the JD and the MD. The real G.O.A.T degrees $$.
you should also factor in the medical bills later in life from doing a trade. Your knees will be fucked back will fucked and the job is generally pretty boring. The amount of money you make in trade if you have 15 years of exp or 1 year its only around 10-20k salary difference. If you're capable of getting a degree in stem/med/business you'd be a fool to go for a trade.
Love this video, I just got my Associate's degree from a Community College and now transfer to a University to get my Bachelors in History because I love History !
I’d like to add about associate degree: there are trade associate degrees such as nursing, paramedic, imagine tech, etc. These tend to take more than 2 years, more like 4 including prerequisites and then the program courses. Definitely the best ROI as you can generally start working once you graduate. If you want to pursue higher level degrees after an associate, sign on with an employer that offers tuition reimbursement/investment as a benefit. You can advance your career and the work at the same time all on your employer’s dime.
Hey I thought this was a wonderful video! While not officially part of the degree, I think it's also important for viewers to know that many of these doctorate degrees (including PhDs, MDs) also have post-doc and residency that takes years to complete.
PhDs have post doc fellowships while MDs/DOs have 4 yrs of med school, 3-8 yrs of residency, PLUS an additional 1-3 yr of fellowship. so all in all, the amount of schooling for physicans is uber long
Generally, for a Ph.D., postdocs are only necessary for those entering the academic job market, and especially for work at research universities. They have been pretty common in the sciences for a long time, but only really expected in the social sciences (depending on the field) for the last decade or so. They remain are less common in the humanities. So, they are unlike residencies, which are generally a requirement for licensure. In the case of post-docs, it's intended to build your resume and make you a competitive applicant for faculty positions at research universities.
Hey! I'm a senior in university and I'm going to give whoever is reading this the advice I wish I did myself. If your school does running start, take it. Running start is when you complete an associates degree during high school and by the time you get accepted into a university you'll be transferred in as a junior with your general education requirements finished. Make sure you look at the the university's direct equivalent transfer classes or else you'll have a difficult time. If you don't have running start, don't worry you can still get your gen eds or associates done at a community college. This will save money instead of doing gen eds for expensive tuition at the uni. Going to a community college first will also allow you to figure out what career you want as well. I thought I was so sure on becoming a medical lab scientist, but ended up going the information technology route. You will most likely spend so much money, and get a degree you didn't really want if you didn't know what your goal was from the beginning. It's normal to go through that stress because usually in high school you don't know what you want for your future. Never delay a math class unless you want to work even harder from getting behind. Also, if you run into trouble always have a second plan in motion. Good luck ♥️
Did something like this, but instead I took one year of welding and one year of blue print design. Before going to the local community college to get two associates and now thinking about transferring to a state university. So I was able to get cores out of the way, get two certificates and was able to get my associates a bit quicker. Probably could've been more efficient with the program. But, I was not the brightest in High school. But yes, defiantly a great idea to take advantage pf programs like these.
hi i have a question idk if you could answer but i’ll be doing my 1st yr of community college this year for the general ed classes, however i did drop out of high school at 16, many yrs ago for me lol, my question was this: are the general ed classes pretty simple like a refresher of high school or will they expect you to already have a base knowledge of all those classes like geometry, calculus, algebra 2, etc.. cuz i didn’t take any of those classes since i left early. I am a little nervous i may need to do remedial classes first or just go back to high school at this point 🙃
PharmD here. I was surprised when you said you have a PharmD also. Glad you were able to do youtube! Would love to hear what kind of work you did after graduating
I just finished my Air Force Associate’s degree in Practical Nursing. I’ll be pursuing MIS for my bachelor’s and if I have some GI bill cash left I may shoot for my Masters in CS or an MBA. Thanks Shane!
Bachelors in Europe: 180 Credits (equivalent to 160-180 Credits in the US) with a typical programm expecting students to do 60 Credits (~55-60 US Credits) per year.
If you are planning to go for master's, you should search for specific institutions that offer bachelor and master's dual program to avoid taking GRE and asking for letters of recommendation, as well as writing personal statement! Completing general ed at community college is way cheaper (just make sure you are taking classes that are articulated to equivalent courses to baccalaureate institutions when you transfer, so you don't have to deal with "what's still missing lower division classes" mindset).
Hey Shane Thank you so much for clarifying the different types of degrees! Really helpful for young people who about to explore adulthood lol Keep up the good work!
While a PhD is a Doctoral degree and is probably the most well known, there are several other Doctoral Degrees such as EdD, PharmD, PsyD, DBA, etc. Many Doctoral Programs are full-time and on average take about 5 years to complete. 7 - 8 years is normally the maximum that most programs will all for you to complete the coursework and successfully defend your dissertation.
The only reason I’m going for a masters degree is because I need it for my goal of being a teacher. (In australia you need a masters of teaching (secondary) to be allowed to teach at high schools)
Contrary to the previous video, I graduated with a degree in evolutionary anthropology and I got a job as a archaeological field technician with really good pay so not every degree he talks about is a dead end
My third year for my bachelors degree majoring in microbiology is ending and i already feel dead enough. Massive respect to the people willing to study 8 more years than me to get a phd lol
Know a young woman who want through the MD-PhD route when colleges were just starting to go through it. Her research was into some neurology stuff and she basically started her PhD, did almost all the classes, then took a break and started her MD with the partner school. It was INTENDED that she take a break after 2nd year but she somehow powered through and did most of the writing of her Dissertation and prepared for defense about a week before her 4th year finished. When she crossed the stage at Med School she had graduated a week before from her PhD. She stopped and made them say "MD PhD" as she crossed the stage because they left it off, lol.
I’m working on a BFA in Textiles right now and I realize I’m more interested in textile construction and its history and teaching all I’ve learned, not really breaking out into the art or fashion industry. Since I want to teach such a niche topic, I know grad school and teaching higher education should be the direction I go. Now I’m just caught between getting an MFA in textiles and gain more studio experience or trying to find an institution that will allow me to get an MA in History and focus on textiles so I can get more in-depth with the history and just teach myself the techniques as I go. At this point I think a PhD is a pipe dream! Maybe if I had unlimited money I’d go for it! 😅
Hi Ashton, I too have a BFA degree in Advertising, but went more into sales and marketing after graduation. After 2 years in industry, I decided to do an MA research degree, and managed to transition into a teaching role as adjunct lecturer. This could be a route that you look into as well. The MFA is a terminal degree for the fine arts, and would be useful if you are looking for professorship in an arts & design university. In mainstream universities though, masters level usually gets you a Lecturer position (teaching focused), whilst a phd can land you a professorship (research focused + teaching).
This is fascinating to me, because where I'm studying not only is a Ph.D. free for expats, but they often pay you to do it. The Ph.D. becomes the job itself, so it's actually a very good idea finantially.
I'm working on my Bachelor's Degree. I do 18 credits per semester and 6 credits every summer vacation. I will have my 4 year degree done in only 3 years!
In Europe Degrees are classed as Levels. A Level 7 Degree is a Pass Batchelors Degree and it take 3 years to complete. A Level 8 Degree Is an Honours Degree and it take 4 years to complete. A Level 9 Degree is Masters and a Doctorate is a Level 10
Great explanation of the degrees! I've been working my way up the ladder from the associate's, bachelor's, and master's. I'm aiming to start my PhD sometime next year. As you said in the video, I'm choosing to do my PhD because of my love for the subject, not for the money. What's your opinion on graduate/postgraduate diplomas and certificates?
Thanks! now I know which route is the most practical and which ones would possibly just consume a lot of my time. It's always best to start earning as early as you can and while you can! Great video!
The program advisor told my entering class of prospective (mathematics) Ph.D.s “the Ph.D. degree has two requirements: pass the written and oral qualifying exams, and write and defend a dissertation (original research)”. The graduate courses and seminars they offered were not course requirements per se but resources to help us satisfy those requirements. Among the students who completed the Ph.D., one finished in three years and the last took seven years. Not everyone took the full suite of recommended graduate courses.
Pro-tip work for a university system while going to school. Started working for a university hospital, and received 100% tuition free for grad school. Now I make 140k+ a year with my MS. There are ways to work the system and have a better ROI for school.
The long and short of it is. I am a busted Associate Degree Nurse student. I ended up with a Associate Degree. I reloaded and attempted Nursing again for a Bachelors. BOOM!! I got blown out of water again. Operation salvage commenced. I had a ton of useless credits. I ended up patching them all together for Bachelors if Science L.A. Just to drive myself CRAZY. I added all the cash I spent directly and converted study/school time into overtime/mirror investments and began to cry when the numbers came in! It was 278,391.09 of potential CASH lost. (Mirror investments matching what I did with other money, assuming cash spent on books tuition and time worked as overtime! ) The only good news is my Nephews changed their College plans and went into Engineering and Computer Science after I showed them my folly! Both now have over 100K careers verses my 50K one! The question I have since I am attempting to get a better job! Should I even list the Associates Degree?
Semester credits, if your schools uses quarters, adjust the credits numbers up by 30%. Shane should have specified. Also understand public vs. private colleges and international schools/systems.
Hey! Just came across ur content! I have an Associate's degree in Architectural design. I did really well in high school but not in college because I burned out and was put under suicide watch for 6 months. What are my prospects as far as in the job market? Thanks!
I've done my 4 years BS Marine Engineering. It's a professional degree although the title emphasis it as a bachelorette degree. After completing it, i became a Trainee marine engineer onboard vessel. No need of further degrees even if I'm willing to work as a professor in college or a university, I just need my Class 1 MEO Competency certificate. Which i eventually obtain when i become the chief engineer after clearing my competency exams.
If you are already in community college, then it is a good idea to fulfill all the lower division coursework for your major, graduate with an associates, then go on to finish the last two years of undergrad to fulfill the upper division major requirements
From Asia: skipped associate degree (that’s a diploma here), did a bachelor in econs majoring in finance, continued a 2nd degree (professional) in accounting & finance, continued again in master’s in public policy (econs is a wide field). In a couple years, to apply for phd in political econs - I basically earn my living with my professional degree & bachelor’s. The master and phd i am planning is 1) my interest, 2) i plan to be a lecturer at a later age. All except bachelor’s is done while working full time (I do not have student debt anymore) - I don’t think it is wise to continue your education without earning appropriate experiences, I know many master graduates that demand higher salary as a freshie, but that just isn’t how it worked here.
You could have made mention (when discussing the Ph.D.) that an overwhelming number of candidates in doctoral programs end up in the dreaded ABD (All But Dissertation) category, because their committee never approves their research topic, or they get eternal "writer's block". I know of 2 people that completed all of the coursework for their doctorates, took their language exams (yes, certain Ph.D.'s are required to have a written and/or reading comprehension in a language other than English), took and passed their comprehensive material exams on their subject matter, only to resign themselves a few years later that they will never achieve their dream of obtaining a Ph.D. Most universities have time limits in place for masters and doctoral degrees.
The Ph.D. discussion left out the fact that many programs offer fellowships and full scholarships that can cover all tuition, etc. Often include stipends for housing, research travel, etc. So to counter the point about a Ph.D. being not worth it, it absolutely can be if you're a good student and find a school that can fund your schooling.
I went and studied International development at a community college, before transferring over to a university studying my BA in Anthropology. The benefits were insurmontable; small class sizes, cheaper tuition, increased one-on-one with the professors. The only real downside, which i found to be most significant, was a loss campus life. Let me explain, the campus was utterly small (around the same size as my highschool), so branching out and meeting new people was a bit hard. During that time, I had friends already enrolled into Uni, and found it a lot easier to produce friendships when around that specific environment. Moreover, This is only MY experience, it will vary, obviously.
There’s other doctorate degrees that you failed to mention: DNP- doctor of nursing practice. DPT- doctor of physical therapy. Psy-D- Doctor of psychology. EdD- Doctor of Education. DO- Doctor of Osteopathy. and many more.
I thought about the phd in MIS since I already had a masters in it and they would take some of those credits but DANG! I looked at the curriculum. It’s like 2-3 years of advanced coursework (that alone will leave you with no social life) then a year of dissertation. Keep in mind this is all on top of my masters. So I said no wayyyy. Just like he said you have to love the subject really. Just think of associates being level 1, bachelors 2, masters 4, and PhD like a 9-10 as far as difficulty and coursework. Just my opinion.
Currently in school working on my bachelors in astrophysics. You can't really do much in the field with just a bachelors that isn't low paying. I mean like almost min wage. If you want to teach (public school or higher education) or do research at a living wage, you need a masters or phd.
Hey shane! Can you make a spotify podcast? Like, the audio version of your videos. I really enjoy listening to it and i would love to listen it to it while i sleep/doing activities! Love you videos btw
To be honest, to study technology, you really only need certificates. A college degree isn't all that necessary. I have a friend who just got individual certs for Network Admin, Cybersecurity, Data Analytics among others.
Right now I’m in school perusing a MA (masters in arts) in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. I’m fairly young too, I’m in my early 20’s, compared to the rest of my cohort who on average are mid to late 30’s. Personally I just went to get my Masters because I really want to be a License Professional Counselor and be able to assist individual through psychotherapy and I love learning about mental health. I’ll never go into getting my Ed/PhD in clinical mental health just because I’ll be content with just being a professional counselor and plus I’m taking research again (I already took it undergrad) and I hate that class. I cannot imagine doing my own research for years and present it to a panel of scholars/professionals. Plus after this, I’m done attending school.
It’s cause here in the USA college is seen more as a business rather than giving the future generations quality education, that’s why they make students take 4 years to finish a bachelors when some majors don’t need 4 years of school honestly
In Many foreign countries, we follow the UK system. Which is 3yrs undergraduate degree. It is only engineering and med school which takes 4 to 5 yrs to graduate. Masters degree is 2 yrs or 1 and half yr, PHD is 3 yrs to 5yrs. For associate degrees these dont exist in foreign universities but they have college Diploma programs which are the standard education for people who want to Begin entry level jobs.
@@b1scuitt college diploma is a 2 yr course it is different from high school diploma. College diploma is recognized as professional course because we have diplomas in business, accounts,marketing, procurement and others. These courses are helpful for the students who want to to start their careers early in basic entry level as assistants to senior guys.
You stated, “the easiest one to get-it doesn’t take much time, is the associate’s degree. I would argue it’s the master’s degree-in most cases. You claimed a master’s degree “is going to take another 40-60 hours.” Actually, most masters programs are 36 hours and many are just 30-which is only 10 courses as compared to 20 required for an associates. Therefore, if one was interested in getting a lot of degrees, get multiple masters degrees. Putting the prerequisites aside, masters degrees are by far the easiest/shortest to get. There are always exceptions, such as MBAs, which may be between 45-60, and Masters of Divinity, which are usually between 75-90. However, your average MA/MS/MFA is 36. Then, if you want to get really technical, colleges offer several masters degrees in related disciplines which share the same core requirements (i.e. the same 6 core courses in 5 related 12-course degree programs). Therefore, after the first degree is earned, and if the completed core coursework is still valid (can be 5-10 years) additional degrees can often be earned at the same school by only completing the 6 remaining non-core, or disciplinary courses, in the related degree programs. The point is, it is possible for anyone to put themself in the position to get several related masters degrees requiring only 5 or 6 courses each, once the initial core courses they all share are completed. Thus, needing only 5 or 6 classes per degree would make one’s 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. masters the easiest and quickest degrees to earn.
I took my lower division classes (60 credits) at a community college. Paid out of pocket, and transferred with a 3.92. My university awarded me a transfer scholarship, with that and credit cap, (you capped and paid for 12 hours. After that, credits were essentially free. 15 credits, 18 or 21, it didn’t matter I only paid for twelve) I was paying about 50% less than I was for community college. So I didn’t take out loans. On top of that my graduate program gave me a GAship that paid tuition and gave me a stipend. I kept my job and didn’t take out loans there either.
Damn, I live in eastern Europe and bachelors degree takes 3 years and PhD takes only 3-4 years, not to mention that universities are free of charge. I can't imagine spending more than 4 years on PhD.
Not sure if anyone said this already but I consider nursing to be a professional degree as well. And you can get a nursing degree as associate, bachelors and beyond. I would also say professional degrees are usually higher paying trade careers. You will most likely need to take some sort of boards or licensing exam to work in the career !
Im doing a PhD in the future because I love biology but Ik damn well the only job its really gonna help me with is either research ehich requires it or patent law (Alot of patent attourneys have PhDs, my preferred field)
At the age of 29 i have done my done my professional diploma in entrepreneurial and small business operation and diploma in English. I graduated at age of 30.currently i have done my diploma in psychology and graduated. But I'm going to HND in business management at age of 31 i felt some inferiority complex about still i haven't achieved anything. I felt I'm growing old why should I need education in this age 😢
i prefer our Polish post Humbold system: Bachelor--> Master -> Ph.D.-> Habilitation-> profesional; it was even better when there were only 5 years master classes
Funny how you approached the PhD MD controversy from the other side. Most of the complaints are that only MDs should be called "Doctor' and PhDs should only be called that in the classroom, which really pisses off the PhDs.
thank you for this video, hope this is helpful for some readers. I did an MPA, an LLM, and completing my PhD now, I feel bad when seeing someone labelled their JD as Ph.D. in law on their resume or LinkedIn file. This is kind of confusing for viewers who might not know the fact and not fair for others who own (LLB) and also lawyers.. Generally in Canada, JD is a lot of more like an equivalence of LLB = Bachler or Law degree, the program will teach students and prepare everything for them to be practitioners ( to be licensed). LLM is more like an advanced research degree in this sense. People go into LLM after they obtained LLB or JD to advance their knowledge. if there is an equivalence of PhD in law, that would be SJD ( Doctor of Juris Science).
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Is an MBA a professional degree like an MSW?
I can't imagine my self studying more than 4 years in college. I have to give it to our doctors and lawyers! You guys are really patient.
In uk and some European countries you can become a lawyer right after high school, law schools are undergrad schools , also law school becomes Hella expensive
@Anuj Ingle that's why u shouldn't go to med school unless you get scholarships, stress and debt aren't worth it , but Indian parents force us to become doc / engineer
Rip indian kids
@Anuj Ingle by the way congrats on getting in med school! thats already an achievement
@Anuj Ingle oh lol. i thought u were here in america, so i thought it was a hgue achievement. but neverhteless i wish you tthe best and hopefully you can save the lives of many people around the world!
I'm the other side or the argument, college is way more fun than adulthood, and getting grades is way less responsibility than showing up to work early every day. I'd much rather go to school forever than work forever.
I feel like it's worth highlighting how associates degrees can be used as a stepping stone before transferring to a 4-year college for a bachelor's degree. Especially if you're lower income or didn't do as well in high school
I did that. I went to a community college first and then to a state school abd it saves so much money. If I am going to be honest though I am not low income but I still don't mind saving money
@@jakearmstrong335 exactly! You definitely don't have to be low income to want to save money.
I agree. I went to community college for 2 years because i didnt do well in high school and later on trasnferred to 4 years university.
Benefit is that you get two degrees in 4 years !
@Very Good so true
To be honest an associate's degree really should only need 30 credits. But the college industry forces unnecessary classes on the students to make more money.
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Honestly.
legit.
Thats all ive been thinking about ever since i started college i have no problem completing and showing up to the classes but why would i waste my time and money doing something i already completed in highschool
@@boraxguy8302 how would an associates degree be 30 tho an associates in engineering take clac 1,2,3 differential equations linear algebra and discrete math engineering physics 1,2 and some comunty college have engineering physics 3 ect that alone is over 30 credits and it’s not even taking into account electrical circuits and all the ENR classes
I spent first two years of school at the community college before transferring to a four year school. I saved a lot of money by doing that, I actually was able to pay off my classes at the community school with the money that I earned from my part time job, it was that cheap. The four year school that I transferred to charged me over 17K per semester, let that sink in...
I am a senior in high school class of 22 and I will go to cc and then transfer to university of Illinois at Champaign I will safe 50k
Brother, SAME HERE! Im so glad I did that too. Ill owe a little bit on Student Loan debt once I graduate from Uni next year but Going to community college is the best route out of highschool or people returning to get an associates!
I went to the one of the best Community College’s in the US for FREE(for the first two years.) Free tuition, free books, and even my college application fees were covered. I transferred to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo in California last year and have enough money saved up(plus some financial aid and parental help) to graduate debt free.
@@Nintendo101Channel what's the school
Yep, that's what I should've done. All well just going to look forward cause I can't go back
My first year engineering prof said: "Getting a B.Eng. and then Professional Engineering designation (P.Eng.) should be good enough. I don't think a Masters or PhD is useful for engineers." And I completely agree. The ROI on advanced degrees for engineering graduates is very very low and not even worth the financial and time investment. It's better to get your foot in the door after getting a Bachelors. You'll be 2+ years ahead in your career as compared to advanced degree pursuers. I know somebody from my batch who went on to get a Masters in Aerospace Engineering and she was looking for a job for 1+ years so advanced degrees isn't even a guarantee for quick employment.
True!
Wait, so you’re telling me that I should aim for a Bachelor’s degree as a guy who is possibly looking to pursue Bio Engineering?
@@The_StrangeMan It's really up to you. In this job market and these uncertain times, I personally don't think it's wise to accumulate more and more debt and that too for something that might give you just a little more value and cred in your resume. I love learning but now I solve math theorems and learn about rocketry for free on the side while I work as a Systems Engineer full time (I graduated with my BEng in 2019). Try to get an internship during your college years and grab whatever engineering opportunity you get right out of university even if the pay isn't great. Work there for 6 months and then bounce.
@@AngelofHogwarts Thanks man. I’m really worried and want something sustainable for my future. To increase odds of acceptance and higher salary, I think it would be worth it to go for a Master’s
@@The_StrangeMan Yeah, it's totally up to you. You do what you think is good for your career path. But just for comparison's sake: I'm making a little more after 2 years of industry experience than my Masters of Engineering friend is making right out of university. Except I don't have an additional $35k+ in student debt during Covid. :l
I'm getting my Master's degree 14 years after getting my Bachelor's. It was the best decision I've made, and I'm glad I waited and have life experience now. I'm going to be applying for PhD. programs too.
I've done admissions at grad programs at three different universities. I always preferred students who had been out working before going back to grad school as they often manage to build the soft skills needed to succeed. Those directly out of undergrad often think it's "more of the same" which it isn't. (Or at least it shouldn't be.)
@@alexanderhalavais8837 Oh, it totally isn't the same as undergrad. At all. And I'm so glad I have the life experiences to enrich my education at this point. Plus, the ability to self-regulate and self-study is super important and often, you get that through life experiences. At least I did. Now, those skills are invaluable.
Just a quick note: the bachelor's degree is tied to four years because of federal financial aid. It would be nice for colleges and universities to have more flexible options
Look into western govoners university, I'm going there and I love but it's online and they only have a few options for majors. It's an online school that's self paced. I can work and still do well in school. If your looking for a degree that's flexible it's worth checking out.
Please if you can share more I would like to know how exactly the federal financial aid affects the duration of the degree
@@newfoundling9275 did you finish at WGU? I’m looking into it for computer science, I want to be a software engineer but not sure if it’s looked “down upon” since it’s only online.
@@Mamamia90210 im currently attending but so far employer do not mind thats its online. Although a lot of schools in my area are online only now.
@@Mamamia90210 im actually starting my third semester today
I have learned a lot about college stuff and different degrees since I've been subscribed to your channel. Can't thank you enough for everything you teach here.
Glad to help!
Ph.D. Here (Neuroscience): this absolutely nails it, especially the poor ROI for the Ph.D. You absolutely have to go in to it for the love of the subject. I do think that we make the mistake of looking at bachelor degrees as professional training. The purpose is to produce broadly well educated, thoughtful people. It was never designed to be a trade school.
I was interested in neuroscience, but I wanted a degree that can not just make me an academic career, but also can act as a professional degree, hence I chose Clinical Psychology
And yes, after starting grad school by recently finishing my B.S., I can say that I pretty much learned nothing in my undergrad. Might as well just read through a bunch of wiki articles. However, grad school is a completely different ball game, from learning case studies, to making diagnoses, and conducting my independent research project. I learnt more in 3 months of grad school than I did in 4 years of my undergrad
This might be an ignorant question BUT - you need to take your MCATS to get a Ph.D. correct?
@@milagrostucci6013 not ignorant in the slightest! the MCAT is for medical school, so pretty much only MD's take it. Most Ph.D. programs use the GRE, and many of them (Psychology, for example) have field specific add-ons for the GRE in addition to the main test. LSAT is for law, and I believe business has it's own test but I forget what it is.
I advice people to get an Associate’s degree in a community college. Your credits most likely will transfer to a 4-year, but make sure you get well informed. You will save a lot of money and will only need 2 years at the university you transfer for a bachelors. If you get financial aid and it covers all tuitions costs, while in the community college, you’ll most likely get refunds. Save that money if possible and use it for when you transfer to the uni. You will probably get financial aid there too, but it wont cover the whole tuition sometimes. Use the money you have saved from before and don’t end up with crazy student debt. If you’re going for a Masters, ask if the institution offers programs to finish that degree in half the time plus the requirements. Some places have those opportunities and it can save so much time and money.
i plan on doing the 2yrAssociates to 2yrBachelors transfer program at my community college but i have a question not sure if you could answer.. is the transfer program only for like academically gifted people like ppl who can afford to skip those first 2 years of university? lol cuz idk if that would pertain to me.. like i wonder why doesn’t everyone go with the 2+2yr method cuz it seems so much easier & cost efficient.
so if I go to a community. do two years at the community college, then change to a four year college. I will only need two more years to get my batchlors degree.
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Bro it's crazy on how majority of white people go for bullsht loans with interests, like parents should be helpful in this regard with lending them some money.
I wish that you had mentioned the difference between BA/BS and MA/MS degrees.
Yes this is why i clicked i was hoping to see as my school changed my major from a BA to a BS
@@allysonhutchens831 BS is bachelor of science so a degree with more emphasis on science and maths. BA is bachelor of arts and focuses on humanities and arts
It really has to do with what any particular university decides to offer that graduate degree in (MA, or MS, or both...example: most universities offer a graduate degree in math in both a MA & MS form, the difference being what is required in addition to the required math classes). Most MA programs require liberal arts study, say demonstrating foreign language proficiency, whereas the MS might require additional math or physics classes, but the "core" requirements for both types of degrees is usually almost the same.
I got a Bachelors Degree inside of 1 year. The community college I attended have thrown so many classes at me because they neglected to tell me that the program I chose was no longer offered so the upside was that they have given me classes that were close to my program. Nevertheless, this was a blessing in disguise because I walked away with 2 Associates degrees, and a Bachelors in less time it would have taken me to attend school. Same for my Masters Degree. I have been working on my Master’s since March and I graduate next August. Look at God!!!
What’s your field
@@user-ls2jg7vl2h for the Bachelors Degree it was Liberal Arts and for my Masters they are Masters of Human Services with the concentration in Grief Counseling and the 2nd Masters is in Education
@@jelonrandle4270 awesome man thank you
@@user-ls2jg7vl2h no problem
So I think it's safe to say "Learning never stops" but it doesnt mean you have to get a Phd lol. Just my 2 cents. Thank you so much for all the information man!
Im in my first year of college, took up accounting and finance, will be doing an mba in the future, thank you shane, because of you i was able to take an informed decision, though i couldnt get my dream college 💔i landed up in my safety school but i dont care now, ill give it my all and make it to a top investment bank.
You got this!
@@ShaneHummus :)
@@Techion I got a accounting degree currently working for a public firm and working to get my CPA license. Definitely worth it and great choice 👍
@@crazymonkey60123 im glad :)
Any updates on the course?
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Good work, Shane, we appreciate your vids. I wish for your channel to grow bigger in the future.
Wow! Thanks a lot!
@@ShaneHummus wow its like you read my mind. Can you do one on a DBA vs PHD. You still get the title of Dr. With both according to my research and as you said it's much shorter. I will be done with my dba in 7 semesters including summer. Could have been done in 6 had I taken 15 credit hours for the first 2 semesters instead of 12
I second that! Good work, Shane🙂👍
PhD lengths vary from field to field, I believe chemistry (mine) is 5 years average, some as low as 4 years and high as 7 (even more in biochem).
Physics is similar; it’s about 5/6 years typically (assuming no credits carry for coursework) but can be about 4 years if you come in with a masters which can clear your first two years. I think the sciences have similar scales while with engineering PhDs are shortest (seen some as low as 3yr )
I once heard of a social scientist finishing her PhD in 18 months out of spite... not sure whether she got an MA first or what coursework she had to do, but still. DAMN. Powerful.
Chemistry PhD is around 3-4 years in my college I believe
Engineering and natural sciences tend to run shorter than social sciences and humanities Ph.D.s. I was 5 years from the start of my masters to a social sciences Ph.D., but this was significantly quicker than most complete. (I had the advantage of a spouse supporting me, and a spouse supporting me finishing as quickly as possible :).) It was generally 5-6 years to complete the Ph.D. in my program.
I am at the end of my PhD program (Public Health, specializing in Epidemiology). I will be setting my defense date within the next couple of weeks. So far, I’m working in my field and can see with added experience where my degree will pay off 😮💨 thank goodness. It took me six years to complete, just shy of my 30th birthday. This is really good information 👍🏾
Helloo i hope you've done ✔
How is all going
@@Mo_Am_Mohey
which degree do u need to become a lawyer?
Man you're who i wanted to be, but i goofed around in college. Trying to get my master's by 30. Currently 26. Congradulations. How did your defense go?
You forgot the degree with the best ROI of them all: *the trade certification.*
Picture a "degree" that takes 3 semesters at most at a community college and then you work for 50k+ a year at the age of 20.
Us tradesmen have it made, but mad respect to the doctors and lawyers out there.
The key here is to pick a pathway that meets your interests. The trades are not for everyone, and depending on the trade, it may not have the kind of long-term security other jobs can offer. (During the most recent economic downturn, like those that came before, those without a four-year degree were far less likely to be unemployed than those without, and those with post-graduate degrees saw very little job loss at all.) Again, depending on the trade, you may find your body doesn't work as well as your brain does as you enter the second half of your life.
None of this, however, goes against your point. The ROI (especially given the lower opportunity cost) can be quite good. And although I didn't go this route, I know people who went through a trade school and worked their way slowly through degree programs while making a solid living in their trade. Kind of the best of both worlds.
From Tradesmen, PhDs, to Associate degrees, ALL at some point in their lives, require the assistance of the JD and the MD. The real G.O.A.T degrees $$.
you should also factor in the medical bills later in life from doing a trade. Your knees will be fucked back will fucked and the job is generally pretty boring. The amount of money you make in trade if you have 15 years of exp or 1 year its only around 10-20k salary difference. If you're capable of getting a degree in stem/med/business you'd be a fool to go for a trade.
Love this video, I just got my Associate's degree from a Community College and now transfer to a University to get my Bachelors in History because I love History !
Is that a useful degree??
@@marcelchalobah7946 no
Do you want to be a professor or Liberian?
@@Neesha242 *Librarian
Is it easier to enter a uni, if i get my associates degree?
I’d like to add about associate degree: there are trade associate degrees such as nursing, paramedic, imagine tech, etc. These tend to take more than 2 years, more like 4 including prerequisites and then the program courses. Definitely the best ROI as you can generally start working once you graduate. If you want to pursue higher level degrees after an associate, sign on with an employer that offers tuition reimbursement/investment as a benefit. You can advance your career and the work at the same time all on your employer’s dime.
Hey I thought this was a wonderful video! While not officially part of the degree, I think it's also important for viewers to know that many of these doctorate degrees (including PhDs, MDs) also have post-doc and residency that takes years to complete.
PhDs have post doc fellowships while MDs/DOs have 4 yrs of med school, 3-8 yrs of residency, PLUS an additional 1-3 yr of fellowship. so all in all, the amount of schooling for physicans is uber long
Generally, for a Ph.D., postdocs are only necessary for those entering the academic job market, and especially for work at research universities. They have been pretty common in the sciences for a long time, but only really expected in the social sciences (depending on the field) for the last decade or so. They remain are less common in the humanities.
So, they are unlike residencies, which are generally a requirement for licensure. In the case of post-docs, it's intended to build your resume and make you a competitive applicant for faculty positions at research universities.
Hey! I'm a senior in university and I'm going to give whoever is reading this the advice I wish I did myself. If your school does running start, take it. Running start is when you complete an associates degree during high school and by the time you get accepted into a university you'll be transferred in as a junior with your general education requirements finished. Make sure you look at the the university's direct equivalent transfer classes or else you'll have a difficult time. If you don't have running start, don't worry you can still get your gen eds or associates done at a community college. This will save money instead of doing gen eds for expensive tuition at the uni. Going to a community college first will also allow you to figure out what career you want as well. I thought I was so sure on becoming a medical lab scientist, but ended up going the information technology route. You will most likely spend so much money, and get a degree you didn't really want if you didn't know what your goal was from the beginning. It's normal to go through that stress because usually in high school you don't know what you want for your future. Never delay a math class unless you want to work even harder from getting behind. Also, if you run into trouble always have a second plan in motion. Good luck ♥️
Did something like this, but instead I took one year of welding and one year of blue print design. Before going to the local community college to get two associates and now thinking about transferring to a state university. So I was able to get cores out of the way, get two certificates and was able to get my associates a bit quicker. Probably could've been more efficient with the program. But, I was not the brightest in High school. But yes, defiantly a great idea to take advantage pf programs like these.
@@themiscellaneouschannel420 good luck!
Thanks for the advice I'm a confused freshmen in highschool 😭
hi i have a question idk if you could answer but i’ll be doing my 1st yr of community college this year for the general ed classes, however i did drop out of high school at 16, many yrs ago for me lol, my question was this: are the general ed classes pretty simple like a refresher of high school or will they expect you to already have a base knowledge of all those classes like geometry, calculus, algebra 2, etc.. cuz i didn’t take any of those classes since i left early. I am a little nervous i may need to do remedial classes first or just go back to high school at this point 🙃
PharmD here. I was surprised when you said you have a PharmD also. Glad you were able to do youtube! Would love to hear what kind of work you did after graduating
I just finished my Air Force Associate’s degree in Practical Nursing. I’ll be pursuing MIS for my bachelor’s and if I have some GI bill cash left I may shoot for my Masters in CS or an MBA. Thanks Shane!
Are you still in the airforce?
Thank You for posting, Shane. Very enjoyable information.
I'm in my second year of high school, and your videos have helped me so muuuuch in knowing what steps to take to choosing my major. Thank you.
I'm glad to hear that!
What’s your major?
@@xflqme1333 I'm gonna pursue Computer Information Systems
@@roxy_black3385 I did some research on what this major is and that’s pretty cool you are going into this, good luck on your future man
@@xflqme1333 Thanks
Bachelors in Europe: 180 Credits (equivalent to 160-180 Credits in the US) with a typical programm expecting students to do 60 Credits (~55-60 US Credits) per year.
If you are planning to go for master's, you should search for specific institutions that offer bachelor and master's dual program to avoid taking GRE and asking for letters of recommendation, as well as writing personal statement! Completing general ed at community college is way cheaper (just make sure you are taking classes that are articulated to equivalent courses to baccalaureate institutions when you transfer, so you don't have to deal with "what's still missing lower division classes" mindset).
Hey Shane Thank you so much for clarifying the different types of degrees! Really helpful for young people who about to explore adulthood lol Keep up the good work!
How would that be possible?
While a PhD is a Doctoral degree and is probably the most well known, there are several other Doctoral Degrees such as EdD, PharmD, PsyD, DBA, etc. Many Doctoral Programs are full-time and on average take about 5 years to complete. 7 - 8 years is normally the maximum that most programs will all for you to complete the coursework and successfully defend your dissertation.
The only reason I’m going for a masters degree is because I need it for my goal of being a teacher.
(In australia you need a masters of teaching (secondary) to be allowed to teach at high schools)
Contrary to the previous video, I graduated with a degree in evolutionary anthropology and I got a job as a archaeological field technician with really good pay so not every degree he talks about is a dead end
This was really really eye opening, and makes me feel a lot better about my bachelor's degree
I’m just now getting into highschool but I watch ur vids anyway lol. Best to be prepared!
Best of luck!
Keep watching and be ahead
You are ahead of the game.
My third year for my bachelors degree majoring in microbiology is ending and i already feel dead enough. Massive respect to the people willing to study 8 more years than me to get a phd lol
Fourth year cell and molecular bio major speaking... hold in there! We got this!!!
I got my AS degree and currently working on my BAS. I also use the GI bill, so I’ve been doing this for free
I did not know u can skip your associate degree and go straight to bachelor
Know a young woman who want through the MD-PhD route when colleges were just starting to go through it. Her research was into some neurology stuff and she basically started her PhD, did almost all the classes, then took a break and started her MD with the partner school. It was INTENDED that she take a break after 2nd year but she somehow powered through and did most of the writing of her Dissertation and prepared for defense about a week before her 4th year finished. When she crossed the stage at Med School she had graduated a week before from her PhD. She stopped and made them say "MD PhD" as she crossed the stage because they left it off, lol.
I’m working on a BFA in Textiles right now and I realize I’m more interested in textile construction and its history and teaching all I’ve learned, not really breaking out into the art or fashion industry. Since I want to teach such a niche topic, I know grad school and teaching higher education should be the direction I go. Now I’m just caught between getting an MFA in textiles and gain more studio experience or trying to find an institution that will allow me to get an MA in History and focus on textiles so I can get more in-depth with the history and just teach myself the techniques as I go. At this point I think a PhD is a pipe dream! Maybe if I had unlimited money I’d go for it! 😅
Hi Ashton, I too have a BFA degree in Advertising, but went more into sales and marketing after graduation.
After 2 years in industry, I decided to do an MA research degree, and managed to transition into a teaching role as adjunct lecturer.
This could be a route that you look into as well. The MFA is a terminal degree for the fine arts, and would be useful if you are looking for professorship in an arts & design university.
In mainstream universities though, masters level usually gets you a Lecturer position (teaching focused), whilst a phd can land you a professorship (research focused + teaching).
This is fascinating to me, because where I'm studying not only is a Ph.D. free for expats, but they often pay you to do it. The Ph.D. becomes the job itself, so it's actually a very good idea finantially.
is it tho?you could be getting some real world experience instead and earning a not almost basic wage average
@@crabbynebula what if you want to work in academia?
@@aurekero why would you want that?
@@crabbynebula some people like to work as researchers/teachers.
I'm working on my Bachelor's Degree. I do 18 credits per semester and 6 credits every summer vacation. I will have my 4 year degree done in only 3 years!
Bachelor and masters are more than enough i can wait more then that!!
Yup, the money's made it from your bank to your Visa/Mastercard-nice one!
Glad you made a video about this Shane! You talked about all the important stuff about these levels of education that we need to know about. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
In Europe Degrees are classed as Levels. A Level 7 Degree is a Pass Batchelors Degree and it take 3 years to complete. A Level 8 Degree Is an Honours Degree and it take 4 years to complete. A Level 9 Degree is Masters and a Doctorate is a Level 10
Wow This is the best definition of a PhD degree I have ever heard ✨
PhDs are not the only Doctorates. There's Doctorates of Theology, Information Technology, Engineering. PhD is just the most common one.
This was very helpful,thanks👌
Great explanation of the degrees! I've been working my way up the ladder from the associate's, bachelor's, and master's. I'm aiming to start my PhD sometime next year. As you said in the video, I'm choosing to do my PhD because of my love for the subject, not for the money. What's your opinion on graduate/postgraduate diplomas and certificates?
Thanks! now I know which route is the most practical and which ones would possibly just consume a lot of my time. It's always best to start earning as early as you can and while you can! Great video!
Right!
I have learned a lot with your videos. Thank you for your effort.
as a senior in high school, i sure am under a lot of pressure lol
Great video, with convenient editing. Very informative. Thanks!
So well explained, concise but very informative. Thank you so much for this video !
Glad you think so! You're welcome.
Took me 13 yrs to get a bachlors, masters, & doctoral degree.
13 years???
Thank you for this explanation.
The program advisor told my entering class of prospective (mathematics) Ph.D.s “the Ph.D. degree has two requirements: pass the written and oral qualifying exams, and write and defend a dissertation (original research)”. The graduate courses and seminars they offered were not course requirements per se but resources to help us satisfy those requirements. Among the students who completed the Ph.D., one finished in three years and the last took seven years. Not everyone took the full suite of recommended graduate courses.
Pro-tip work for a university system while going to school. Started working for a university hospital, and received 100% tuition free for grad school. Now I make 140k+ a year with my MS. There are ways to work the system and have a better ROI for school.
The long and short of it is. I am a busted Associate Degree Nurse student. I ended up with a Associate Degree. I reloaded and attempted Nursing again for a Bachelors. BOOM!! I got blown out of water again. Operation salvage commenced. I had a ton of useless credits. I ended up patching them all together for Bachelors if Science L.A. Just to drive myself CRAZY. I added all the cash I spent directly and converted study/school time into overtime/mirror investments and began to cry when the numbers came in! It was 278,391.09 of potential CASH lost. (Mirror investments matching what I did with other money, assuming cash spent on books tuition and time worked as overtime! ) The only good news is my Nephews changed their College plans and went into Engineering and Computer Science after I showed them my folly! Both now have over 100K careers verses my 50K one! The question I have since I am attempting to get a better job! Should I even list the Associates Degree?
I have an associates degree in mechanical drafting and design. getting an associates degree in a valued trade is often a better investment.
When it comes to associates, I find that most companies favor those with relevant experience to add to it
Something you should mention though that masters and PhDs can usually be paid for by the school if you TA.
Crazy enough, my BSCE cost more than my MBA. Who knew, the bulldog had more bite than the pilot tiger.
Semester credits, if your schools uses quarters, adjust the credits numbers up by 30%. Shane should have specified. Also understand public vs. private colleges and international schools/systems.
Hey! Just came across ur content! I have an Associate's degree in Architectural design. I did really well in high school but not in college because I burned out and was put under suicide watch for 6 months. What are my prospects as far as in the job market? Thanks!
I've done my 4 years BS Marine Engineering. It's a professional degree although the title emphasis it as a bachelorette degree. After completing it, i became a Trainee marine engineer onboard vessel. No need of further degrees even if I'm willing to work as a professor in college or a university, I just need my Class 1 MEO Competency certificate. Which i eventually obtain when i become the chief engineer after clearing my competency exams.
Holy smokes your last name is Hummus that is awesome!
If you are already in community college, then it is a good idea to fulfill all the lower division coursework for your major, graduate with an associates, then go on to finish the last two years of undergrad to fulfill the upper division major requirements
From Asia: skipped associate degree (that’s a diploma here), did a bachelor in econs majoring in finance, continued a 2nd degree (professional) in accounting & finance, continued again in master’s in public policy (econs is a wide field). In a couple years, to apply for phd in political econs - I basically earn my living with my professional degree & bachelor’s. The master and phd i am planning is 1) my interest, 2) i plan to be a lecturer at a later age.
All except bachelor’s is done while working full time (I do not have student debt anymore) - I don’t think it is wise to continue your education without earning appropriate experiences, I know many master graduates that demand higher salary as a freshie, but that just isn’t how it worked here.
You could have made mention (when discussing the Ph.D.) that an overwhelming number of candidates in doctoral programs end up in the dreaded ABD (All But Dissertation) category, because their committee never approves their research topic, or they get eternal "writer's block". I know of 2 people that completed all of the coursework for their doctorates, took their language exams (yes, certain Ph.D.'s are required to have a written and/or reading comprehension in a language other than English), took and passed their comprehensive material exams on their subject matter, only to resign themselves a few years later that they will never achieve their dream of obtaining a Ph.D. Most universities have time limits in place for masters and doctoral degrees.
The Ph.D. discussion left out the fact that many programs offer fellowships and full scholarships that can cover all tuition, etc. Often include stipends for housing, research travel, etc. So to counter the point about a Ph.D. being not worth it, it absolutely can be if you're a good student and find a school that can fund your schooling.
One of the most useful videos on this channel 👏
Beautifully explained
Love the support!
I went and studied International development at a community college, before transferring over to a university studying my BA in Anthropology. The benefits were insurmontable; small class sizes, cheaper tuition, increased one-on-one with the professors. The only real downside, which i found to be most significant, was a loss campus life. Let me explain, the campus was utterly small (around the same size as my highschool), so branching out and meeting new people was a bit hard. During that time, I had friends already enrolled into Uni, and found it a lot easier to produce friendships when around that specific environment. Moreover, This is only MY experience, it will vary, obviously.
There’s other doctorate degrees that you failed to mention:
DNP- doctor of nursing practice.
DPT- doctor of physical therapy.
Psy-D- Doctor of psychology.
EdD- Doctor of Education.
DO- Doctor of Osteopathy.
and many more.
of course he's not gonna be mentioning all of them... he just listed down some of the examples
I really liked this video, Im not from USA, so it was very dificult to me to understand american education system. Glad I found your chanel.
Thanks for being honest. Was on the fence about getting my masters after I finish my courses this year....
I thought about the phd in MIS since I already had a masters in it and they would take some of those credits but DANG! I looked at the curriculum. It’s like 2-3 years of advanced coursework (that alone will leave you with no social life) then a year of dissertation. Keep in mind this is all on top of my masters. So I said no wayyyy. Just like he said you have to love the subject really. Just think of associates being level 1, bachelors 2, masters 4, and PhD like a 9-10 as far as difficulty and coursework. Just my opinion.
I think I’m going to stick to level 2 and call it a day 🤣
Currently in school working on my bachelors in astrophysics. You can't really do much in the field with just a bachelors that isn't low paying. I mean like almost min wage. If you want to teach (public school or higher education) or do research at a living wage, you need a masters or phd.
Hey shane! Can you make a spotify podcast? Like, the audio version of your videos. I really enjoy listening to it and i would love to listen it to it while i sleep/doing activities! Love you videos btw
PhD's in Canada do not require a Master's however most people do complete a master's.
To be honest, to study technology, you really only need certificates. A college degree isn't all that necessary. I have a friend who just got individual certs for Network Admin, Cybersecurity, Data Analytics among others.
Right now I’m in school perusing a MA (masters in arts) in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. I’m fairly young too, I’m in my early 20’s, compared to the rest of my cohort who on average are mid to late 30’s. Personally I just went to get my Masters because I really want to be a License Professional Counselor and be able to assist individual through psychotherapy and I love learning about mental health. I’ll never go into getting my Ed/PhD in clinical mental health just because I’ll be content with just being a professional counselor and plus I’m taking research again (I already took it undergrad) and I hate that class. I cannot imagine doing my own research for years and present it to a panel of scholars/professionals. Plus after this, I’m done attending school.
5:32 Einstein didn't have a Ph.D. when he formulated his Special Theory of Relativity.
When they find out my degree is 'War'.
crazy hearing how long it takes to get those degrees in USA, I could get bachelors and masters degree inside 4 years in UK
It’s cause here in the USA college is seen more as a business rather than giving the future generations quality education, that’s why they make students take 4 years to finish a bachelors when some majors don’t need 4 years of school honestly
In Many foreign countries, we follow the UK system. Which is 3yrs undergraduate degree. It is only engineering and med school which takes 4 to 5 yrs to graduate. Masters degree is 2 yrs or 1 and half yr, PHD is 3 yrs to 5yrs. For associate degrees these dont exist in foreign universities but they have college Diploma programs which are the standard education for people who want to Begin entry level jobs.
@@macheka100 yes exactly, and some professional certificates can be done while already working in the field
@@macheka100 can u explain what is a college diploma
@@b1scuitt college diploma is a 2 yr course it is different from high school diploma. College diploma is recognized as professional course because we have diplomas in business, accounts,marketing, procurement and others. These courses are helpful for the students who want to to start their careers early in basic entry level as assistants to senior guys.
The Farmer is also very important as those who aquire these degree we plant in the garden of eden
You stated, “the easiest one to get-it doesn’t take much time, is the associate’s degree. I would argue it’s the master’s degree-in most cases.
You claimed a master’s degree “is going to take another 40-60 hours.” Actually, most masters programs are 36 hours and many are just 30-which is only 10 courses as compared to 20 required for an associates. Therefore, if one was interested in getting a lot of degrees, get multiple masters degrees.
Putting the prerequisites aside, masters degrees are by far the easiest/shortest to get. There are always exceptions, such as MBAs, which may be between 45-60, and Masters of Divinity, which are usually between 75-90. However, your average MA/MS/MFA is 36.
Then, if you want to get really technical, colleges offer several masters degrees in related disciplines which share the same core requirements (i.e. the same 6 core courses in 5 related 12-course degree programs). Therefore, after the first degree is earned, and if the completed core coursework is still valid (can be 5-10 years) additional degrees can often be earned at the same school by only completing the 6 remaining non-core, or disciplinary courses, in the related degree programs.
The point is, it is possible for anyone to put themself in the position to get several related masters degrees requiring only 5 or 6 courses each, once the initial core courses they all share are completed. Thus, needing only 5 or 6 classes per degree would make one’s 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. masters the easiest and quickest degrees to earn.
Thank you for this video!
You're welcome. Watch out for more.
I took my lower division classes (60 credits) at a community college. Paid out of pocket, and transferred with a 3.92. My university awarded me a transfer scholarship, with that and credit cap, (you capped and paid for 12 hours. After that, credits were essentially free. 15 credits, 18 or 21, it didn’t matter I only paid for twelve) I was paying about 50% less than I was for community college. So I didn’t take out loans. On top of that my graduate program gave me a GAship that paid tuition and gave me a stipend. I kept my job and didn’t take out loans there either.
Damn, I live in eastern Europe and bachelors degree takes 3 years and PhD takes only 3-4 years, not to mention that universities are free of charge. I can't imagine spending more than 4 years on PhD.
Not sure if anyone said this already but I consider nursing to be a professional degree as well. And you can get a nursing degree as associate, bachelors and beyond. I would also say professional degrees are usually higher paying trade careers. You will most likely need to take some sort of boards or licensing exam to work in the career !
Im doing a PhD in the future because I love biology but Ik damn well the only job its really gonna help me with is either research ehich requires it or patent law (Alot of patent attourneys have PhDs, my preferred field)
At the age of 29 i have done my done my professional diploma in entrepreneurial and small business operation and diploma in English. I graduated at age of 30.currently i have done my diploma in psychology and graduated. But I'm going to HND in business management at age of 31 i felt some inferiority complex about still i haven't achieved anything. I felt I'm growing old why should I need education in this age 😢
i prefer our Polish post Humbold system: Bachelor--> Master -> Ph.D.-> Habilitation-> profesional; it was even better when there were only 5 years master classes
I'm 15 and I trying to learn all I can from the looks of it, I want to get a Master's degree
Funny how you approached the PhD MD controversy from the other side. Most of the complaints are that only MDs should be called "Doctor' and PhDs should only be called that in the classroom, which really pisses off the PhDs.
thank you for this video, hope this is helpful for some readers. I did an MPA, an LLM, and completing my PhD now, I feel bad when seeing someone labelled their JD as Ph.D. in law on their resume or LinkedIn file. This is kind of confusing for viewers who might not know the fact and not fair for others who own (LLB) and also lawyers.. Generally in Canada, JD is a lot of more like an equivalence of LLB = Bachler or Law degree, the program will teach students and prepare everything for them to be practitioners ( to be licensed). LLM is more like an advanced research degree in this sense. People go into LLM after they obtained LLB or JD to advance their knowledge. if there is an equivalence of PhD in law, that would be SJD ( Doctor of Juris Science).
i think a phd in finance,economics,engineering,math,physics etc is a decent idea since u have other options than only working in academia