ENFP Lana Del Rey NF vs ST
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You can make fun of "God bless and fck you" all you want but I bet it's gonna be the name of Lana's next album and it's gonna be even better than Chemtrail Over the Country Club 😂😂
This vid and your class QandA on William Osman really sum up the ENFP fears well. Fearing that people won't see the idea or the intention and that the ENFP will perpetually be misunderstood.
Even observers are eventually deciders. We want to feel heard and feel like we are connecting.
We are perpetually going to be misunderstood. But who cares? Just focus on the people who DO get where you're coming from and surround yourself with those (N types).
I feel what shes saying (and Dave explained well at the end). Our ENFP brains are VERY much like "god bless and f*ck you" about people and things. And we REALLY MEAN THAT! (Honestly wish you well, but deuces)
u need to get a life lmao
Ohhh it makes so much sense that Lana is ENFP. Explains why I like her so much 😂
Hysterical! Young ENFPs can be such innocent idealists. We expect the best out of people so are disappointed regularly.
We eventually figure out the game, and its painful because it also has us reckon with a true limitation to our ability to effect change - some just wont want it.
I wish I heard more on Te Ne and it’s relationship in enfps and estjs
Same
ESTJ is king, that's all you need to know.
She literally has a song that says: OH GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD
it's a cover
she didn't write that just covered it
still insinuates her resonating@@60sbabydoll777
I don't find her 'nf talk' confusing at all! I think she sometimes seems a bit paranoid and like she struggles to take on board criticism from the tribe. I think if she had more of an st approach to things she might have understood, for example, that when people criticised some of what she said/ did last year as racist/ignorant they weren't attacking her essence/ core being/ overall intentions but rather some stupid shit she did and said
Okay so, as NT, I can kinda get the NF, or rather I know why they're misunderstanding just about everything and then also say the exact opposite of what they mean. I can read between the lines and catch the manipulation tricks, and I can even play translator to some extent. But how can an NF ever understand anyone else when they're so caught-up in not-real country all the time? Even when you put in the time and effort to speak their language, and you can kinda see it click in their minds, they've forgotten all about it the next second because they just heard a phrase they have a pre-loaded response to and it's right back to total inner confusion. In what way is there hope for this type of NF?
NFP or NFJ?
@@LittleMew133 I'm with the same doubt. Not only that, but we also have the jumpers (Ni-Fi, which would be ISFP and INTJ, and Ne-Fe, ENTP and ESFJ)
What you wrote doesn’t seem to me NF at all. Just close-minded - you can get that way when unhealthy and honing down on your tunnel vision view of whatever it is, regardless of your type.
If you assume this is NF can you explain what is NF about it?
Not only NF are misunderstood. Everybody is. But we are all misunderstood by different people. And what we think understanding means is also different for people with different cognitive functions. And to answer your question: No, there is no hope
Tower of babel all the way down.
I COULDNT BELIEVE MY EYES WHEN I SAW THAT YALL DID A VIDEO ON HERRRRR OMFGGRHTJSGEFWYU
As a most likely INTP-ST with an NF father. Yes. Just yes. 100% to everything
Updated: I’ve undergone my personality awakening and now believe myself to actually be an ISFJ-ST. But my previous comment stands.
u also look like you smell bad
just my opinion, no h8 pls
So youre saying you threw away the relationship with your father over one thing that you took out of context?
@@pada5992 not me, no. Hopefully for most people that’s a bit of hyperbole. But I do find myself having a natural inclination to get very upset with him and judge him and people for small details that he didn’t word correctly or whatever. It’s a flaw of mine, yeah.
@@AubreeGames okay cool.
I am afraid people cut ties with people over stupid misunderstandings and things taken out of context, like all the time.
Some throw accusations around that make no sense, they wont listen, they wont bring good reasons. But they use their "point" to draw a line.
And then those who say nothing and withdraw quietly, which many people do to each other, they obviously decide to not even communicate transparently in order to double check what was going on.
I think Lana del Rey is an ISFP jumper who uses Fi-Ni mostly, but interesting analysis
Yeah I always thought she was isfp but now I'm wondering whether the internet planted that idea?! There does seem to be Se and Ni in the way she writes though.. There's quite a lot of what sounds like Se in her lyrics (concrete things described vividly as though happening 'in the now') but at the same time she uses a lot of the same imagery over and over, almost as though she's establishing her own lexicon of references that help build the overall aesthetic of her music (the tarnished American dream, etc.)
ENFP here ❤️
ENFP jumper here 💜
@@chronomirageYT you guys need to get a life and personality
@@dddaaa6965 You can be a bad mother fcker, but that don't make you a man.
your analysis is actually very strange. Lana is not like any Ne-dom I know. It seems to me quite obvious that she is a Fi-dom, she is governed by her personal values, who she is, and how she lives this is all about self-expression. when she was accused of promoting violence against women, she said, this is just my life, the way I live, this is my experience. she just showed people how it happens, what she felt, without giving any deep meanings. her songs are just about her experience, acceptance of herself, about HER. She can easily be INFP, but not ENFP
You might want to realize something: ENFPs can have a fuck ton of Fi
They are wrong she’s an isfp, they are wrong at typing in a lot of videos. It’s very strange and off putting for ST to type people when they don’t know or haven’t done any research on people who type the best, personality database, or any other information connected to mbti that is commonly talked about
Not gonna lie, it’s hard to find context in word salad like that. Some xNFPs are better at attempting the ST game than others. (And likewise some xSTxs are better at the NF game than others)
god damn. how about you try for once?!
Agreed!
i understand her WHY???? -ENFP
I think Lana is more INFP. I can hear the Fi, self vs tribe problem strongly.
She's Ne/Fi so it makes sense you'd hear her Fi. What makes her ENFP instead of INFP is her human need for gather, not significance. She isn't weird about people, but she is about control/labels.
She actually switches back and forth between tribe and self. She'll say "God bless" or mean all the best, and in the same breath: fuck you.
INFPs will pick one.
@@Owlsworthy enfps are weird about control/labels? Pls can you elaborate? 🙏
That resonate so much with me but I’m struggling to define if I’m enfp or entp.
She rarely ever leaks her observer side but you can see the fact she’s an observer when she just doesn’t ever talk crazy about single deciding like me or others would
For the sake of clarity, in OPS NF are still those "classical" four types (INFP, ENFP, ENFJ and INFJ) or it is anyone that has Intuition and Feeling as their savior functions?
NF is referring to anyone with intuition and feeling as saviors. So for example:
FiNe (INFP) FiNi (ISFP Jumper) FeNi (ENFJ) FeNe (ESFJ Jumper) NeFi (ENFP) NeFe (ENTP Jumper) NiFe (INFJ) NiFi (INTJ Jumper)
NF refers to those 4 types you listed. However those with intuition, or those with feeling, may relate/play translator, like how Dave plays translator at the end.
@@audy2174 No, it refers to those with NF saviour, the way Owisworthy wrote. An ENFP jumper would be an NT type.
10 seconds in and we confirm she is an ENFP LOL
She’s an isfp4w3 lol - from an enfp4w3 who’s a Lana del Rey fan and knows her well & reads types well. 4w3 is not an unpopular enneagram for enfp. But isfp is her mbti, she is an artist, but I can see how you might think that! But I think you need to relax on offending the enfp type. Because 1. She’s not enfp. 2. I’m going to guess you are istj/estjs, if you know anything about typing it’s NF that can think in depth. It’s NF who made up Myers Briggs and Carl Jung as well is an NF. And stop calling us “NF”s and being extremely rude.
Yeah EPs in general know what she means. Even as an ESTP ST I get it. Doesn’t mean I’d know how to talk like that tho lol.
Good video!
NFPs - funny
STJs - cute
lana is TEXTBOOK enfp
I’ve typed myself as INFP but I don’t do the NF talk that you speak of...
Have you considered you might have typed yourself upside down. Originally I thought I was an INFP in high school, and an ENFP in college, but later when I was typed by Dave and Shan, I turned out to be an ESTJ jumper Te/Ne. Which doesn't exist in Myers Briggs world, so it makes sense I didn't think I was an ESTJ originally.
I'm still having trouble understanding what NF talk is, or what ST talk is for that matter.
You realize jumpers exist right? You could be fi-si
@@XavierGuillaume yeah, i have. i typed myself as a couple things before ending up infp. the functions and tidal waves seem pretty on point. im aware that i could have incorrectly mistyped myself and do try to account for my biases and blindspots. but i cannot unsee myself as infp so something major would have to occur to knock me loose from that view point.
@@TheOmniscientHuman yeah i may be fi-si. ive new to this stuff. im going to learn more of the basics before coming to that conclusion.
Pls do obseve Brandon Boyd, Dave and Shan. Thank you
И я знала, что ISFP не может одеваться так безвкусно, как она. Извините, но у меня действительно болят глаза каждый раз, когда я вижу ее одежду. Но я не совсем уверен в ее типе.
Why is she an ENFP and not an INFP?
lana is not enfp, she is not extroverted
u can be an enfp and still be an introvert
@@4nthos nope, because the e means extroverted, besides she is isfp
@@lizzygrantlagz not in their system. extroversion and introversion are determined mainly by ‘animals’ (they have videos about them)
@@4nthos It is in animals as well as in people but I was still referring to the fact that she is isfp and not enfp
@@lizzygrantlagz nooo im not talking about animal species, ‘animals’ is a concept that OP brought out to further discuss about introvertism/extrovertism in people types. they have a playlist on their channel about it, too
I just didn't get why she's definitely a single observer if she blames failure on hateful people
You can consider it as her blaming the concept of hatefulness. It s not so black and white, you can explain certain things in multiple ways. For example, observers can express hatred or anxiety over people and deciders can hate things and concepts.
@@Partor6 So if everything can be explained in multiple ways (and it can!) then how can they definitively decide on anyone's type?
I've been following them for years and gradually grew more and more confused, like X can indicate 4 things and they randomly decide it's just one.
@@5idi it's more about whehter or not it becomes a recurring pattern in your life. What I mean is, an observer can show disturbance in their decider functions from time to time and vice versa (everyone can, as Dave and Shannon always say, everybody is basically the same person, and the differences are nuanced)
But what your actual type is will be revealed by what imbalance constitues and has has constituted most of your life (which pair of functions or human needs)
Even though you may hate people or be obsessed with the tribe as an observer (hypothetically), you will find out that since you have balanced decider functions in the middle, it will never constitute as much of an imbalance in your life as "control vs chaos"
Lana Del Ray is 37 years old.
1:40 LOLLLL
Every word she says hurts!
Lana is an INFP. Not an enfp OR isfp
I think she’s ISFP
@Gabriela Yeah common type among musicians.
She is! I am an enfp and they don’t even mention the functions in these videos and find a reason to talk badly about enfp when she’s not even an enfp. She’s an SF LOL
@@misslynn200 right they def do that shit.
I noticed she's looking down to the right and that's a pretty universal sign of guilt/shame..
no its not.
@Moondust So there are only 4 basic things humans can do, because there are only four directions you know where people can look and those are "universal" signs for only your interpretation? Ahahah. Talk to real pros about your little theory there. See if they put up with your oversimplifications or just walk away laughing.
So I guess you probably meet countless people who you are certain are full of guilt and shame? And you know that for sure because of their universal eye language which is "down right"?
@Moondust It's a pretty universal sign of guilt/shame, yes it is.
There's something called zoning out while trying to find the right words to say