This way makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE than having an extrovert be bound to how social you are. I keep making people think I'm either an ESFP or an INFP or an ENFJ depending on how social I decide to be at the time. It's a huge mess.
Please do a video about Feminine Ti vs Feminine Fi, and Masculine Te vs Masculine Fe. What are the differences between FM Ti-Fe and FM Fi-Te with examples?
@@paulaha5044 they can and did made videos about Ne and Si but they cant represent how its truhly like to live with them autenticly. Same goes for Fe and Ti.
6:52 “You need to know your fourth function because that's where you're going to fucking panic and attack everybody, and then you need to know you're fourth animal because that's where shit is fucking pilling up or there's a massive void.” 🤯🤯🤯
@Caiden “you're going to fucking panic and attack everybody” so yes it can also be panic, and freezing and running away are often consequences of panic. The fourth function is a "sensitive reaction trigger"
What in the alien language did I walk in to :o Okay, I think I need to watch this channel to even comprehend what is going on in this video. I'm currently reliving my second "who even added letters to the numbers" meltdown.
I still see the energy level being relevant as a piece of the typing puzzle. The savior is the opposite from the Inferior. No energy for the Inferior, energizer bunny for the savior. You even said, mental energy.
I'm unsure... First I thought you can still be considered extroverted when having Blast last. Why? --> Here are some examples from their typing list: FF *-Fe/Ne* PC/S (with Ne Ti double activated) like Vicky Powers, Keri Russell, or Anna Edit should be extroverted, right? Because De + Oe. However they have an extroverted function AND an introverted function double activated! So I understand that "play_last and "blast_last" are introverts, sleep_last and consume_last are extroverts" is only applicable when talking about double activated function. In that case you would be right, right? Correct me if I'm wrong!
They also said that having P and B in your top three animals makes you an extrovert, and having C and S in your top three makes you an introvert. This approach makes more sense to me somehow.
It feels bizzar to find out I'm an introverted ENTP :D Just unable to blast and also extremly demon Si. Suddenly, my behaviour makes more sens to me. Well, it might be the time to start the Hero Jouney in order to get all the traits balanced. :)
so true, I barely feel the need to blast but I can and even enjoy it at times. but play can pretty much go to hell and it's exactly what comes back to fight me. I do need to find a way to do it lightly but effectively but it is so draining even thinking about doing it
Hi!! I would like to know how can I be typed by you guys and how much would cost, I'm really confused on which type I am, and I really need help because I definitelly can't do this alone lol
Hi again, I'm still working out my type or trying to understand the different definitions correctly. As of today, I'm thinking I am ExFP; I'm really back and forth on if it is Se/Ni or Ne/Si. I also am really unsure of my 3rd and 4th animals. I'm pretty certain my demons are blast and play, but the definitions aren't narrowing it down for me. I have trouble getting started, but is that blast or is that the can't get moving play? I do think I'm lead consume. After work each day, the first thing I do is sit down at my computer and consume anime, netflix, play games etc. I have considered the routine of it to be maybe Si, but I don't know. I have looked at SC IxxJs as well. As for modalities, I'm looking at FF or MF. Fi is M; Te is F. At work, I'll say "You can do this, or you can do this other thing." I don't push the tribe, unless they are being passive aggressive and not telling me what the problem is. I want to be one and done; I don't want whatever the problem is to be looming in background. The other situation where I might push on them is when they have crossed a system or some behavior that has been in place for awhile, and they say it's wrong. Me: why didn't you stop me way back when? Why the change? I see your reasoning, but at the same time, my reasoning makes more sense to me than yours. I feel I'm right, or there is some other reasoning that supports why I believe this more than yours. Or there's other examples of this happening, but you aren't calling out the other people for it. So it feels like they are paying an awful a lot of attention to me for "what reasons?" (Also if I'm somehow Ti/Fe?!??!, I can maybe see it, but idk man. It would feel weird at first if I am.)
Too much Me vs Them in your monologue. Feels like you are a decider. Let me help you, you are an IxxP. 😎 By the way, you misunderstood a lot of OP conceptions. Consume has nothing to do with watching anime. 😄
@@tireiro4674 The MBTI test I took in 2011 gave me INFP. My identity for several years has in fact been INFP or ISFP. I go to Google a lot when I don't know something. Like say the handheld printer won't close, of the team of people that I work with, I'm the first to go straight to Google type in the printer's make and model and look up the exact problem we are dealing with to get answers. It's not just watching anime. The sheer amount of time I spend researching topics of interest just leads me to assume that I have consume as a savior. I tend to try to figure stuff out for myself first before bothering the tribe. I am slowly acknowledging that that is probably a demon, and I should ask for help more. But a social humiliation at a young age taught me not to rely so much on others.
@@lonelyheart949 As far as I'm concerned consume animal state is about consuming new info to change your identity. Dave and Shan gave a good exemple of Bill Gates who reads books slowly and extreamly countiously to make sur he understands described statement correctly. Consumers pay too much attention to the quality of gathered info to impove themselfs. I'll give you my own exemple to make you understand what I mean. I've been learning playing poker for years, and I still prefer read articles, watch streams rather then just sit and play myself. :] As an ENTP lead consume, I waste tremendous amout of time learning how to play poker. While playing does not give me such joy. Your printer exemple is not appropriet enough. It does not really underline your consume trait.
@@tireiro4674 A lot of non-fiction books that I own that I have started reading, get heavily annotated. I waste time watching nearly all of Dave and Shan's OP videos, taking several notes, weighing back and forth different types that could possibly make sense given new information or reviewing past data. I watch a lot of mental health videos to better understand the people around me. When I first got typed as an INFP, I would spend countless hours reading up about it. By that I mean, I read through all of page 1 of Google INFP articles, blogs etc.; I saw and read page 2 of Google INFP. Is that not enough consume? Or is that just a special interest?
Haha I know man. My husband won’t let me try to do taxes anymore cuz I flip my shit every year and the last year I attempted it 2 years ago - I just barely resisted destroying the computer w a rage flip. So .. yea- he’s doing it now . And the body thing is so real 😂 hubs complains at the amount of times I’m dying like need massage pls everything hurrrttts :(((( I literally became a massage therapist for many reasons but one was so I could treat my damn self.((granted I quit the job and let my license go cuz I didn’t wanna deal with anyone or the pain of how much work it was dragging the table around -mobile massage- everywhere or listening to people who never shut up)) and now I just do massage for myself. FF NiFi SCBP
@@riyajacob2909 me neither, I’ve listened to hundreds of hours of cs joseph this past year. Haven’t watched wenz in months, I don’t like how she treats infjs like this weirdos. When entjs are like just as rare, and so many types are almost as rare
Wow, I always get the extroverts and introverts mixed up! Even you guys - I would've said He was the intro and She the Extro 🙃 I used to think I was an intovert too. I think my last must be Ni Sleep.
personalities were a thing back in the days of Hippocrates with the whole four temperaments.. so it’s most likely the idea of personalities came up from way back too👍
You define a type by a person that must have certain characteristics 100%, which justifies MBTI 100%. So your system might have outliers that are not in any particular type at all.
Double activated,, masculine Di, play... I don't know what you guys are even saying anymore. It's all a garble of jargon. I really like you guys, but seriously, I barely have time to translate all of your terms and abbreviations anymore. You may want to consider that your audience doesn't use these terms day in day out like you do, and it's getting a bit much to follow. I could never send this video to anyone just starting to listen to you guys caused its sooo heavy on your personalized abbreviations. The channel is not at all easy to understand for newer (and even older) viewers. Please tone down the jargon so we can actually understand.
Though the videos shared by them are informative at times,the way it is expressed are condescending and I am not going to continue watching these videos or any videos from the speakers.Adding some compassion and civility will not make you bad.
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
This way makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE than having an extrovert be bound to how social you are. I keep making people think I'm either an ESFP or an INFP or an ENFJ depending on how social I decide to be at the time. It's a huge mess.
Please do a video about Feminine Ti vs Feminine Fi, and Masculine Te vs Masculine Fe. What are the differences between FM Ti-Fe and FM Fi-Te with examples?
Would love to see some more Ne or NT content!!
Yes please. Ne is fascinating and yet very misunderstood.
NT content for sure.
They dont have ne
@@pappop33 yes, they don’t, soooo… are you saying that the only content they can make is about the functions that they have?
@@paulaha5044 they can and did made videos about Ne and Si but they cant represent how its truhly like to live with them autenticly. Same goes for Fe and Ti.
6:52 “You need to know your fourth function because that's where you're going to fucking panic and attack everybody, and then you need to know you're fourth animal because that's where shit is fucking pilling up or there's a massive void.” 🤯🤯🤯
@Caiden
“you're going to fucking panic and attack everybody” so yes it can also be panic, and freezing and running away are often consequences of panic. The fourth function is a "sensitive reaction trigger"
This is one of your best videos in ages. Thank you!!! So good!
4:50 I relate so much to this, the blast last solution is exactly that but it is so god damn hard to get started on it
What in the alien language did I walk in to :o Okay, I think I need to watch this channel to even comprehend what is going on in this video. I'm currently reliving my second "who even added letters to the numbers" meltdown.
I still see the energy level being relevant as a piece of the typing puzzle. The savior is the opposite from the Inferior. No energy for the Inferior, energizer bunny for the savior. You even said, mental energy.
WOW! Mind Blowing Revolations. I Really Love Your Show.
wait so,
"play_last" and "blast_last" are introverts
"sleep_last" and "consume_last" are extroverts
?
Yes
I'm unsure... First I thought you can still be considered extroverted when having Blast last. Why? -->
Here are some examples from their typing list: FF *-Fe/Ne* PC/S (with Ne Ti double activated) like Vicky Powers, Keri Russell, or Anna Edit should be extroverted, right? Because De + Oe. However they have an extroverted function AND an introverted function double activated!
So I understand that "play_last and "blast_last" are introverts, sleep_last and consume_last are extroverts" is only applicable when talking about double activated function.
In that case you would be right, right? Correct me if I'm wrong!
They also said that having P and B in your top three animals makes you an extrovert, and having C and S in your top three makes you an introvert. This approach makes more sense to me somehow.
@@quatschkopq186 Your logic seems legit, but what's "double activated functions"?
@@PierrickYAH C'est quoi ton dernier trait animal? B ou S?
This might be the best one so far for understanding . Very easily dumbed down 😂😂😂
Ok guys, we get it, u both look amazing in olive green & mauve.
It feels bizzar to find out I'm an introverted ENTP :D Just unable to blast and also extremly demon Si. Suddenly, my behaviour makes more sens to me.
Well, it might be the time to start the Hero Jouney in order to get all the traits balanced. :)
7:18 "Tired", my proof-reader mode is back.
Wise words.
"an extroverted function is looking at a spectrum" great new way to get an extrovert to leave me alone
how do you find out what to "do" extrovertedly to avoid the tidal wave as an introvert?
Tiered? 7:15 Shouldn't that be 'Tired'? :p
I'm so introverted my first animal must be coma.
so true, I barely feel the need to blast but I can and even enjoy it at times. but play can pretty much go to hell and it's exactly what comes back to fight me. I do need to find a way to do it lightly but effectively but it is so draining even thinking about doing it
Hi!! I would like to know how can I be typed by you guys and how much would cost, I'm really confused on which type I am, and I really need help because I definitelly can't do this alone lol
Hi again, I'm still working out my type or trying to understand the different definitions correctly. As of today, I'm thinking I am ExFP; I'm really back and forth on if it is Se/Ni or Ne/Si. I also am really unsure of my 3rd and 4th animals. I'm pretty certain my demons are blast and play, but the definitions aren't narrowing it down for me. I have trouble getting started, but is that blast or is that the can't get moving play? I do think I'm lead consume. After work each day, the first thing I do is sit down at my computer and consume anime, netflix, play games etc. I have considered the routine of it to be maybe Si, but I don't know. I have looked at SC IxxJs as well. As for modalities, I'm looking at FF or MF. Fi is M; Te is F. At work, I'll say "You can do this, or you can do this other thing." I don't push the tribe, unless they are being passive aggressive and not telling me what the problem is. I want to be one and done; I don't want whatever the problem is to be looming in background. The other situation where I might push on them is when they have crossed a system or some behavior that has been in place for awhile, and they say it's wrong. Me: why didn't you stop me way back when? Why the change? I see your reasoning, but at the same time, my reasoning makes more sense to me than yours. I feel I'm right, or there is some other reasoning that supports why I believe this more than yours. Or there's other examples of this happening, but you aren't calling out the other people for it. So it feels like they are paying an awful a lot of attention to me for "what reasons?" (Also if I'm somehow Ti/Fe?!??!, I can maybe see it, but idk man. It would feel weird at first if I am.)
Too much Me vs Them in your monologue. Feels like you are a decider. Let me help you, you are an IxxP. 😎 By the way, you misunderstood a lot of OP conceptions. Consume has nothing to do with watching anime. 😄
@@tireiro4674 The MBTI test I took in 2011 gave me INFP. My identity for several years has in fact been INFP or ISFP. I go to Google a lot when I don't know something. Like say the handheld printer won't close, of the team of people that I work with, I'm the first to go straight to Google type in the printer's make and model and look up the exact problem we are dealing with to get answers. It's not just watching anime. The sheer amount of time I spend researching topics of interest just leads me to assume that I have consume as a savior. I tend to try to figure stuff out for myself first before bothering the tribe. I am slowly acknowledging that that is probably a demon, and I should ask for help more. But a social humiliation at a young age taught me not to rely so much on others.
@@lonelyheart949 As far as I'm concerned consume animal state is about consuming new info to change your identity. Dave and Shan gave a good exemple of Bill Gates who reads books slowly and extreamly countiously to make sur he understands described statement correctly. Consumers pay too much attention to the quality of gathered info to impove themselfs.
I'll give you my own exemple to make you understand what I mean. I've been learning playing poker for years, and I still prefer read articles, watch streams rather then just sit and play myself. :] As an ENTP lead consume, I waste tremendous amout of time learning how to play poker. While playing does not give me such joy.
Your printer exemple is not appropriet enough. It does not really underline your consume trait.
@@tireiro4674 A lot of non-fiction books that I own that I have started reading, get heavily annotated. I waste time watching nearly all of Dave and Shan's OP videos, taking several notes, weighing back and forth different types that could possibly make sense given new information or reviewing past data. I watch a lot of mental health videos to better understand the people around me. When I first got typed as an INFP, I would spend countless hours reading up about it. By that I mean, I read through all of page 1 of Google INFP articles, blogs etc.; I saw and read page 2 of Google INFP. Is that not enough consume? Or is that just a special interest?
@@lonelyheart949 No, not really. True consumers read at least 3 Google pages. That is a bare minimum. Keep going!
I looked for this before but couldnt find it. Is there a beginners video that defines all this stuff?
Haha I know man.
My husband won’t let me try to do taxes anymore cuz I flip my shit every year and the last year I attempted it 2 years ago - I just barely resisted destroying the computer w a rage flip. So .. yea- he’s doing it now . And the body thing is so real 😂 hubs complains at the amount of times I’m dying like need massage pls everything hurrrttts :(((( I literally became a massage therapist for many reasons but one was so I could treat my damn self.((granted I quit the job and let my license go cuz I didn’t wanna deal with anyone or the pain of how much work it was dragging the table around -mobile massage- everywhere or listening to people who never shut up)) and now I just do massage for myself.
FF NiFi SCBP
so an infj who is blast sleep play consume is an extrovert? i def wouldn’t see myself as an extrovert tho i can feel like it sometimes for sure
These speakers have a different understanding on INFJs.i don't follow their channel at all now.Wenz3s INFJ coach videos suit our tribe (INFJ)
@@riyajacob2909 me neither, I’ve listened to hundreds of hours of cs joseph this past year. Haven’t watched wenz in months, I don’t like how she treats infjs like this weirdos. When entjs are like just as rare, and so many types are almost as rare
"beer bottle humping beetle," lol 😂
This was fascinating
I had to do my demons since college, thank God I graduated.
Wow, I always get the extroverts and introverts mixed up! Even you guys - I would've said He was the intro and She the Extro 🙃 I used to think I was an intovert too. I think my last must be Ni Sleep.
How does the typing system work? Would you type me through your classes or is it a separate system?
2:07 personalities have only been around since the 1950s i thought
personalities were a thing back in the days of Hippocrates with the whole four temperaments.. so it’s most likely the idea of personalities came up from way back too👍
Gosh, how to identify such blindspotness.. anyway thx the great content and quite make sense
Love this too!!!! Ok, so I'm still introvert xD it's ok I'm good :p
You define a type by a person that must have certain characteristics 100%, which justifies MBTI 100%. So your system might have outliers that are not in any particular type at all.
Initiating vd responding is I vs E
Should we be drained then? 😂
Double activated,, masculine Di, play... I don't know what you guys are even saying anymore. It's all a garble of jargon. I really like you guys, but seriously, I barely have time to translate all of your terms and abbreviations anymore. You may want to consider that your audience doesn't use these terms day in day out like you do, and it's getting a bit much to follow. I could never send this video to anyone just starting to listen to you guys caused its sooo heavy on your personalized abbreviations. The channel is not at all easy to understand for newer (and even older) viewers. Please tone down the jargon so we can actually understand.
I remember the first time I stumbled upon these guys vid.I felt the dumbest ever
I’m an infp-t . And I think I have traits of both for some reason . I can be introverted and extroverted depending on the situation
Though the videos shared by them are informative at times,the way it is expressed are condescending and I am not going to continue watching these videos or any videos from the speakers.Adding some compassion and civility will not make you bad.