Buying a used BMW 5 series F10/F11 - 2010-2017, Common Issues, Buying advice / guide
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Buying a used BMW 5 series F10 / F11 - produced from 2010 to 2017
What is the best engine, how good is this car, what are the common problems with these cars? How powerful are the best engines? Watch the video and you will get answers to all these questions!
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BMW 520i, 523i, 528i, 530i, 535i, 550i, 518d, 520d, 525d, 530d, 535d
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i own this car, havent had any of those problems
different car review hi, I’ve got a problem with my Bmw f10 2012 model, basically every other day I have to refill up the water coolant tank and is something I never used to do before, so I went to the garage to get it checked and they said that there isn’t any Water leaking sign through the pipes or anything like that so they told me to just to change the water coolant tank, so I’ve changed the water coolant tank but bear in mind it wasent a brand new I bought it of another Bmw the same model as mine which means it was used, and I didn’t think that would cause any problems but still I’m still having the same problem, what would you recommend me? Do you think is best to go to Bmw dealer and buy a brand new water coolant tank?
Ahmed Saciid Hi,
I’m just curious what the cause of the problem was. Would you share that with us?
Tx in advance!
I very much doubt that if you exchange any non-leaking part that that would have helpt. If there’s no leakage visible on the outside (did they use trace fluid?) than it must have leaked on the inside 😬. But you should have noticed that I think.
BMW 525d has 6cylinders n57d30a motor f10 2010 Just saying and it runs like New still :)
any opinion on the 535i GT models? Would they be closer to the 5 in terms of reliability or the 7 series (F01) as it shares the same platform? thx
I can’t believe that this car is almost 9 years old! Still so beautiful!
looks better than newer models tbh
Currently have a2010 march 525d 3.0 and cant complain at all
Really it does
Timing chain +parts its about 1400£
@@InLovee in Bmw service?
I was very pleased with my own 2011 520d Touring, which I had from 2013-2021. It had the sport automatic, the fantastic comfort seats and adaptive drive. Over my ownership, the main issues were broken front springs (a real hassle to replace due) and rear air springs (easy to replace). I went through a couple of sets of brake discs and pads front and rear, which is normal wear. I had to replace some electrical connectors to the electric handbrake actuator (which was because I removed it wrongly), but that was a small job. I also experienced water seeping in through the rear door inner linings (glue dries up), which apparently happens to a lot of these cars. But all in all, I had a lot of good motoring from this car, which did not once let me down over the course of nearly 8 years. And somewhat surprisingly, I found it relatively easy to work on it myself.
Hi bro,can you please tell me approximately yearly how much will maintenance cost to have this car? I can afford max 3k€ but don't know will be enough. Also i have in plan 530d.
They have oil consumption?
Finally I review worth watching. Pros and cons is what I was after. The issues mentioned will greatly help when I purchase 2011 onwards 535D sport.
Me too, Did U get it yet ?, I might get a 2011 this week.
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not yet still searching I particularly want 2012 535D black in n out sports seats paddle shifts wide sat nav xenon vision package varibale damper control Msport basically fully loaded. average price is £19k+ for 2012 under 80k miles FSH. fingers crossed.
NIce... Im looking at the 435i Grand Coup 2015. Choices...
Pros and Cons is the only way to go as far as reviews go. Add loaded language and facts become opinions.
He told basics, you would find out even more if you just sign up with local bmw forum.
Spot on, I have a friend who is a BMW technician and he once gave me almost all the information/details mentioned in this video.
So does the 528i also have air suspension? Because I’m indecisive on either this bmw or a E350 sport Benz. What’s your thoughts ?
@@Alex-jp3ek what did you get?
@@fireblade8905 I ended up getting the E350 Benz
I own a C280 for 4+ years they never steered me wrong (Benz’s) 🤷🏻♂️👍🏽
Each time I buy a car you’re the only video I watch.
I Owen a 550i stick shift fir 6 months. You were spot on on the driving experience with not runflat tires I replace them and is so much better; however, now I need to worry about an spare.
Thank you very much !! Thank you for putting up known issues with the car and their year and engines!! Great review!! I’m looking to get 2013 535i but trying to find the most information I can about the model first
Thanks for the advice! Going to see a 2011 525d tomorrow so this information will help thanks👍🏽
Bought yesterday, and will pick up on saturday. 528i 3.0 258hp. Test drive was amazing. And this car has a power!!!
My F10 is nine years old and I love it! Still fast and comfortable. I've looked at newer cars but there is nothing better in my price range.
I just bought a 2011 520d with 65000 for £7895 i sooooo love this car egr valve went but the dealer sorted it under warranty
My 2011 F11 520d has really only had a technical problem with both rear suspension bellows. Both were changed under warranty, however. My only real disappointment is with paint blistering on the original 17 inch rims (236 style). They have been used as winter wheels and clearly cannot take road salt, even though they have been regularly washed and waxed. I am now changing them for original 327 style wheels.
thanks for the video. it's very useful
Excellent video and spot on with my impressions on the e39 (owned 5) and e60 (skipped). Just got a great F10 535i after passing on a couple 550i's due to the valve stem seal issue. So glad i did. This car is amazing!
i had a 520d from Feb 2011, i had the car for 3 years and put 80000 km on it, without it causing me any problems, so i would recommend getting a well kept one
I love my E39, I wouldn’t have an E60, but I could definitely see myself in a F10 535i, 550i or M5.
4syth I have a 2011 550i . Great car . Not a daily commuter it’s a v8 so just weekends
@@fernee909 hows the maintenance? any major issues?
@@andre5282 had head gasket and coolant hose replaced . And as preventive measure was to get the valve stem sealed. It’s something the f10 550i is known for .
fernee909 ah okay I just bought one 73k miles
I had e61 and No, don't buy if you want to save some money, because it is a money pit.
I have a Black 2004 E60 525i. LOVE this car. Looks like new. I have 140,000 and getting the hard downshift. Going to spend $300 on Solenoid replacement and Mechatronic sleeve, hoping it fixes it. It rides as well as any new car I've driven. Looking at it in the parking lot -- it still outclasses most cars!
Excellent video! Thank u sir!
Really into buying an 520d or i, thanks so much for this video! So much helpfull info so i now know exactly what to look for when if i buy one.
thank you for this video! i'm looking into buying a 520D Touring with the Msport package from September/2011 so the timing chain should not be a problem , love the look of these 5 series models , my dad also drives an F10 530D , had it for 6 -7 years now without any issue , so pretty relaible cars
My favorite car review channel. I actually feel like I learned something after every video. Not like these adhd kid videos out there
thanks dude. i always try vids like these.
Thanks man, very useful movie!
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video, it's really useful
Great video! Thanks a lot.
Nice review and very accurate. I have a 5 year old F11 with 90k miles on it. It’s a brilliant car, but multimedia system crashes every few hours when it’s cold, and I have had to replace the air suspension bags (the latter I did myself with Arnott replacements for £300). Apart from that I’ve had a coolant leak (£100 fix from an independent). Changed to normal tyres as run flats are rubbish. Apart from that I love it, very comfortable, quiet and even my 520d has some grunt left when fully loaded with adults, luggage and a bike rack. Just don’t assume that you have to get it serviced by BMW, as they are ridiculously expensive, and will always in my experience, try to charge you to replace half worn parts early- seriously oil, filters and brakes are an easy job at home, and use an independent for nearly everything else!
Has the upkeep been expensive
Great review!
Thanks this is a very informative video
I bought a used f10 with 113,000 miles on it. Two owners. now its at 123,000 and so far only minor issues. turbo boost solenoid, oil pan gasket leak, rubber faring below windshield. Other than that normal oil change and spark plug change. And a gradual transmission fluid change. shes a beast with average sports cars. 535i m sport. I agree that this f10 is almost timeless and beautiful in appearance. I paid cash and bought a good warranty.
Very helpful Information, Thx a lot :)
Very informative video. Good job!
Really useful, thank you!
Great video I really like you change the commendations this is how it should be done and this is how the Gearbox manufacturer recommends it. At max 90k km. Its by far no lifetime oil as bmw tells. Also Differential oil should be changed every 100k
A true youtube friend you are.
Great content 💪
Thank you, very helpful
Great job on the information and presentation!
Thanks, I appreciate it !
offffffff thats gonna help me alot ,, thanks man
Good video, Thanks!
Thku very much for the video hope french one
Ur the best
Just bought one. 3 years old, under 20k miles. Wonderful car
How is it now?
@@fireblade8905 it come to junk yard
Nice vid thanks!
Got my 2011 535i 3 months ago and LOVE IT!! Previous owners kept in it wonderful condition and past the torch to me. Some things i wanted to add was: I got some things programmed into my car (digital speedometer, close mirrors, trunk and windows with fob and much more) and now my trunk has problems closing in severe cold whether or when I leave my car for a couple days in cold weather. Besides that, its perfect!
ALSO FOR NEW BMW OWNERS, DO NOT GO TO BMW FOR MAINTENANCE CHECKUPS, WORK OR REPAIRS! THEY WILL BLOW UR POCKETS!
Any issues with the car so far?
Great video. Keep it up:)
A very good review sir .
very helpful!!
Very good and informative review! I subscribed
Thx!
nice video thank You
This is one of the most comprehensive and to the point reviews that I have heard in a long time, well done!
thanks!
I bought a 2011 528xi and I feel in love with it I can’t believe I got it under 10k very well cared for car no smoker and none of the unnecessary extras just enough to keep me comfortable great review
I am looking for a similar model. What's the miles put on your car and has it given may troubles so far??
@@ameykarade9432 it’s a great car had to replace the drive side cv joint after 10 months found the part brand new online for $140 another $125 for the install ...still not engine lights everything still working fine
Have you had any timing chain issues so far?
@@aran5647 not a single engine issue it’s the cv joints that’s one of the weakest points on the car
Good job!
E60 design is what???!! man E60 is one of the sexiest 5 series ever made , and own E60 and F10 designs .. interior on the f10 is unmatched... both great cars
This video was a god send when I was looking at F10 5-Series'. I bought a 2013 535D. It's been great so far.
make sure that your EGR cooler is/was replaced / checked by the dealer since the old part can cause in some cases fire! there is a recall for this
@@differentcarreview-dcr Yes, it was. However BMW have just issued a second recall for the EGR valve cooler. (September 2022).
Thanks for the timing chain update. This killed my last 520d 2010 model. Might consider a 2016 model again.
Just keep the 2010 and save up for a G30
I owned all three of them: E39 (525i), E61 (535xi) and I am about to get rid of my F11 (520xd) soon. The sexiest is the E61 imho. Though my heart goes to the E39, kind of. The F11 was a leasing car and I was fortunate to order it from the factory. However it was not the most reliable...
I think I got the EGR valve changed 3 Times under 120.000 km. That surprised me.
I replaced the OEM continental contiprocontact run flat tires that came with my 528 F10 with BridgestonePOTENZA RE960AS POLE POSITION RFT and not only did the harsh ride quality of the continentals go away, but also the car's straight line traction and handling improved greatly. Try these bridgestone tire if you want to improve your ride quality while not sacrificing the convenience of having run flats on your car. I will not recommend the Bridgestone driveguard run flat tires however. I found that, while it provided improved ride comfort, it had little to no road feedback for the car.
i have 530i F10 and its harsh i removed the runflat continental and kind of better but not that much
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The 3.0 diesels also suffer the chain issue. The headlight modules also fuck up fairly often. Manual gearboxes sometimes won't go in to reverse. Dualmass flywheels wear out fast too.
chain issue ? ? just change chain and you will be fine for other 200 250k km.... if you buy bmw prepare also for repairs.... 😀😀
One of the best BMW reviews out there ! Thank you ! I was deciding between 2014 Mercedes Benz CLA 250 or 2014 BMW 535d about same price $17K with both at 80K miles…any suggestions?!
I purchased a 2014 535D about a year ago, and love this car...I have had no issues at all, it has all the packages except lane change. I changed the Tires because run flats ride bad. Car is in excellent shape, took it to the dealer and they said the same, just riding and having fun. I also purchased the extended warranty just in case. Zooming with a smile baby!
do you still drive it? How much km has it? I had just tried one 525d, 2014 188000 km. It was good. But can not decide.
@@ZgemboBiH Yes I still drive it, and still love driving it. Still haven't had any issues so I'm very pleased with it!
What kind of tires did you end up buying?
@@adamredmond6255Any chance you're still driving this? I've been having a very difficult time deciding between the 535i or 535d. I really am considering swapping to diesel, but I'm really unsure.
F10 design is beautiful!
Thank you!
I bought a 2014 f10 520d with 150k miles with new timing chain. Had no issues after 10k miles
YOur reivews are so fantastic and fun to watch!! For my next car, I'm buying a 2014 used car. Which car would YOU get? The Audi A6 C7 2.0 TFSI, the BMW F10 520 or the Merc e200 7 G tronic?? Pleae help... I don't know which car to buy!!!!
I recommend you also mention the torque figures of the engine, especially for the diesel engines which are known for their high torque output... Also the 530d in India has 258hp and 560Nm of torque @ 1500 rpm!....pulls like a train, pinning you back into the seat !
Very informative video btw👍🏻
thx for the tip
Muzammil Hussain should one buy a 5 series from 2011 in India ?
This is it :) thanks :)
thank you, but i did opposite first i bought it after just one driving and quick look around and then i start checking. Love the car.
u still have it?
Graet informations. Thank you. I shoud buy it.
awesome video, I am planning on getting a 2014/15 5 series soon and this helped me out a lot.
thanks
did u buy one？
I’ve owned an early production (2010) model year 2011 535xi for nearly 8 years. The car has 99k miles and has been free of problems save one that I believe is common. The trunk release goes out on a lot of these cars leaving you w/o access. In my case the car was rear ended literally the day after failing and was repaired as a part of sheet metal repair. The run flat tires on the car are a disaster. They bend rims AND they are worthless when flat...I know. A friend sold these cars (BMW) for 7 years saying the tires were the most common complaint and that factory reps ignored concerns saying they were here to stay. All that said it has been a very comfortable and well performing car. Hope this helps if you’re considering one.
It does, thank you. People are too harsh on the reliability of these.
hkc2003
What size tires are on the car?
I have 17” on my E60. Drives excellent with run flats. However on normal tires at high speed (150km/h 90M/h) the becomes unstable. My tyrecenter confirmed that the car really needs run flats.
I got a 2011 535xi with 49k miles on it, really rides great.. I’d like to see if regular tires are better riding than the run flat
I have 2011sept 520 diesel and i had to change the engine at 170Tkm because of many injectors were defect. There was no warning from board computer. I let check by BMW garage whether timing chain should be replaced, it costs 140€ and they gave me the car back and have not indicated the vibrations which was not normal. They are not so qualified. The truth is that Injectors should be tested every 100Tkm.
I love my 2012 535i. She just hit 70,000 miles around New Year’s Day.
Do you still have it?
@@fabiant.1140 Totaled 😢
@@chevyboa8950 oh shit...
@@fabiant.1140 lol it’s crazy you asked. Shit was kinda recent too smh. About to get a 540i now though ✅
@@chevyboa8950 sounds good. wish you good luck!
Good info
Bought my frist bmw here in china ( im from brazil ) it is an 520i 2015 with 22.000 km and Im happy with it
Watch out for the oil filter housing gasket around 40k, and water pump every 60k (overheating indicators when temp is normal is your hint). If your A/C stops blowing cold, replace the blower motor and blower regulator. Also, leaks in rear window seals and headlights are a constant frustration. Don't be afraid to ditch the run-flat tires-you won't regret it! The ride is much smoother without them, cheaper too! Some mechanical inclination will go a long way in saving you money with this car. RUclips videos are a HUGE help. Despite all this, I love my 2011 f10 535i M-Sport (MT6)!
I had my 2011 528i non-turbo inline 6 for 18 months now with 34k on the motor with 0 issues and 0 leaks. 😊
harsh riding you having?
very informative video, thx! liked and subscribed!
When i got my BMW 2011 353i in 2012 (preowned with 12k miles) everyone warned me maintenance would be expensive.... to be "fair" a majority of the. family don't touch their cars instead mechanics handle it.... but I've maintained my baby and it's running smoothly.
(i mean ive done most of the work myself and oil was the major saver $40 to 50 bucks for the oil and filter DYI vs +$150 at the dealer (think average was $180
Youre a good dude! Thank you for the video, just got my self a beautieful 520D 2012 And i don't think ive been as happy with a car for a while!
Looking myself right some 5series 2012 or better... found this channel very informative... How do u like the car?
@@ogvintage1587 It's amazing, tasman green and looks and sounds like a beast, as a 2.0l its not the most powerful out there but you dont have to be affraid of getting runover on highways. ITS A BEAST! :D
Awesome! I'm hopefully gonna buy a 2012 520D soon enough, are you still happy with it? Any problems so far?:)
@@KarlstadDrums For me it's been awesome. It's snowy here in finland atm so i just pretty much pot sportmode on and all of the other restrictions and have a ton of fun in the parkinlots. Just be careful what you buy and from whom. Some people like to sell shitty beat up cars. Merry christmas too! :)
@@TheDonod Hey awesome, I'm from your neighbour Sweden!:D Yeah thanks for the tip, certainly will test drive it and see how it feels and looks before buying. Don't know lot about buying cars since it's my first own car but at least I have researched a lot abut this engine! Might even buy of a dealership with warranty if I find a decent deal.
1 thing I find missing is the details about the N20 engines faulty internal plastic timing chain guides, this is a major one (Class action lawsuit major) where the engines were blowing up around 76,000 to 79,000 miles when the plastic guides were giving way.
I bought a 535xi 2011 with 92,000 miles in August 2019. I replaced the water pump 3 months after I bought it. It runs like new now has 102,000 miles!
Yes,I repalced water pump on my 535 ar about 100,000 miles. Also the washer reservoir.
Thanks man..
Amazing cars I have a 520d. 535d next.
Not a detailed assessment. The weak spot of the F10 reliability are suspension components and its ability to warp brake discs pretty easily. Also there was an engine upgrade to the 530d which improved performance to 258 bhp and emissions/economy from the 2012 model year.
Thank you so much
thank you!
Have a 2014 535d.m w/ sport package. Great looking car. Fuel efficient. Repairs are expensive. But drives solid. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
How many miles do you have and what problems did you have?
How is it going after 2 years? :)
Car is at 112k miles. I’ve had it since 25k miles (2017). Warranty expired at 60k miles. In the last 2 years I had to replace the motor mounts and EGR valve. About 2.5k USD in repairs. But otherwise, still running good for the time being.
525d have 2 variants: 3.0 205 HP and 2.0 220 HP.
Thank you for the video. Is the timing chain issue for N20 engine something I need to concern? Thanks
Thanks for the informative video on the F10.. You have shown me many things to pay attention to when I buy my 2nd hand Toy.
I got a 2011 535i and i love it. Although at 60,000 miles it blew the oil cooler gasket. Im having a specialized german Mechanic shop replace it. I love BMW's service department but its always expensive hahaha. This is my second bimmer. Before the 5 i had a 2007 z4. My z4 was a nightmare since the previous owner had beat on it and put 90,000 miles on it.
TheRed58Fury1 sell it get the 2013 f10 528 and you will have no issues
how is the car doing since?
90000 miles is like nothing in Germany
The automatic gearbox cannot be fixed , it only can be replaced with and it's very expensive . So Pay attention to it
The crankshaft pully broke of on my F11 at 263 000 KM (2011 model, N57 525d), is this a known issue?
The key keeps on opening my doors even if I don't touch the doorhandle...
When I'm on a cold start, sometimes the engine will randomly shake once in a while (let's say you would feel 5 engine-shakes in 1 minute), as soon as I gas up, there is no issue...
I bought a 2011 550i after much searching. Ive had it 6 years now, and still just LOVE the car. Doesnt drink excessive fluids, is decent on gas, killer infotainment, and ultimate cmfort in a 4 door cruiser. 2 doors is plenty now, so when I sell, probably grabbing a new m6 or Alfa Quad Giulia. Love the lines on both, and both cars are brutally fast. I have a Stelvio and its a blast to drive, but the bmw despite its advanced age is worlds better. 0-60 in 4.7 is plenty quick, and the top end comes soon!
Thanks for the video!
I have a 2014 F11 520d and (like you mentioned) the air springs had to be changed after 16000 km. The flywheel on the clutch (manual gearbox) is also worn out. Everything else works fine.
How much did the air springs change cost?
@@vojtik1234 I paid 480 euros for the material.
@@rokomakarska very good price! Thanks for the answer
Still not a fan of no coolant temp gauge but good to see they brought.back the cup holders,
It’s on the dash to the right of the Rev counter on my 530d f11.
good advice. thank you.
A common issue is the m sport after 2014 cause the interior motion sensors are horrible which leads to the steering wheels being stolen.
Great video, earned a subscriber.
So if one is looking for a M5 or 550, stick with 2014 or later? Is there a production period you would recommend for the 4.4L? Thanks!
Thanks!
Yes, if you want a 550i, then I would definitely recommend models from 2014, the M5 is another story-running costs etc. But I will also do the M5 F10 review in the future. The engine in the M5 is similar to the 550i, but it's not the same. So you can buy the M5 models made before 2014, but they can have more problems than the regular 5 series.
Thanks DCR! Will look forward to your video in the future!