'5 minutes on the Harmonic Pedal' - Paul Barton, piano

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • A short general talk/demo about the harmonic pedal with musical examples.
    English language channel: / harmonicpianopedal
    French language channel: / lapedaleharmonique )
    Related recordings with harmonic pedal only:
    Handel 'Harmonious Blacksmith' • Handel 'The Harmonious...
    Bach Partita No.1 - Praeludium
    • Bach Partita No.1 - Pr...
    Bach Partita No.1 - Allemande & Corrente
    • Bach Partita No.1 - Al...
    Bach Partita No.1 - Sarabande
    • Bach Partita No.1 - Sa...
    Bach Partita No.1 - Menuet 1,2 & Giga
    • Bach Partita No.1 - Me...
    Bach Partita No.1 (complete) • Bach Partita No.1 (com...
    Arvo Part - Variation 1 - Zur Gesundung Von Arinuschka • Arvo Pärt Variation 1...
    Pachelbel Canon in D • Pachelbel 'Canon in D'...

Комментарии • 56

  • @JohnEBPiano
    @JohnEBPiano 13 лет назад +41

    Opens up so many opportunities for new music...

    • @BerndBrunsch
      @BerndBrunsch 8 месяцев назад +1

      What say‘s Beethoven,
      what say‘s Liszt ...
      the 4‘th Pedal is the Revolution

    • @BerndBrunsch
      @BerndBrunsch 8 месяцев назад +1

      I’d thinkin- it’s for all Styles of Music. We waiting a very long time , we‘d seen 5 Pedal (👍🏻), and now we have ist!
      See FEURICH , Wien & Deutschland,
      Look Wendl& Lung and
      STUART & Son’s in Australia.
      Have a nice Day !

  • @PianoRootsMusic
    @PianoRootsMusic 7 лет назад +19

    Holy crap, that's so cool!

  • @BerndBrunsch
    @BerndBrunsch 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hallo Paul,
    für mich ist das Harmonic Pedal die wichtigste Erfindung die es im gesamten Klavierbau jemals gegeben hat und als Pianist fühle ich mich von allen Pianoherstellern düpiert, die diese durch Dich wunderbar beschrieben und erklärte „Stallvorlage“ ignorant an sich vorbeiziehen ließen.
    Etwa vor 5 Monaten rastete ich förmlich aus als ein Händler wieder anfing rumzustammeln, daß dieses Teil ja Geld koste- ach nein, wirklich ??
    Um nicht verrückt zu werden spielte ich die schöne lange A- Dur- Tonleiter mit dem ‚normalen‘ 3. Pedal und danach das selbe mit dem 4., bei dem das vorherige Klangsammelsurium endlich Struktur gewinnt und die (Jammer Jammer) ach so teuren weil seltenen Resonanzböden -> endlich gehört und nicht einfach produziert und auf einen Markt ‚geworfen‘ werden,
    denn sie sind ohne dieses 4. Pedal allesamt - nichts als netter Schrott !
    Ein Klavier(!), oder Piano ohne 4. Pedal ist verlorene Liebesmüh und in meinen Augen Schrott, denn ich kann meine Klangvorstellungen nicht umsetzen.
    Dabei klang der Bechstein im Pianozentrum DRESDEN so gut und gut, der hypergalaktisch toll restaurierte Stainway von 1896 sei entschuldigt, was Ihm auch nicht hilft.
    Auch bei sog. „Fachportalen“ fühle ich mich regelrecht veralbert. Will man mir erzählen ich bin der einzige der Klang hören kann oder gehören alle der 3- Pedalmafia an ??
    Das wär schade.
    Und natürlich sehe ich noch Verbesserungsbedarf- eine Arretiermöglichkeit des linken zum leiser spielen, manchmal wünschte ich mir auch das 4. einfach ebenfalls arretiert und festgehalten, aber da müßte ich sicher mit Herrn Stephen Pauello sprechen, von dem‘s ja stammt.
    Viele liebe Grüße an Dich und Dein Team sagt Bernd Carl Brunsch aus dem deutschen Saxen-Lande !

  • @dlralban
    @dlralban 14 лет назад +1

    Great video! It clearly reflects the different new options given by this invention: I'm sure it will have a blast very soon.

  • @ismaelsoto9680
    @ismaelsoto9680 7 лет назад +4

    You are my piano hero.

  • @0532phillipjoy
    @0532phillipjoy 9 лет назад +11

    Hi Paul, I love this sound, it reminds me of my Great Aunt's parlour piano. I mean this entirely positively, those old pianos had a resonance which is entirely absent on the 'modern' 1920+ grand piano.
    My instinct is that this recreates the sound-world of lost period pianos, but is an anachronism in works from the mid 19C onwards. Is that fair?
    I would use this pedal for anything from the Fortepiano era onwards, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert possibly up to Chopin and Schumann, but not for Liszt or middle to late Brahms +; I know however that there are those who are dying to apply the possibilities to music from what we would not call 'period instrument' times. In my compositions I can see a use for this new pedal - great; but it seems to be reading back a sound into the works of the massive piano style/impressionists/moderns that the composers did not intend.
    Your comments?

  • @PiotrBarcz
    @PiotrBarcz 4 года назад +1

    I have to say you area brilliant pianist and I would very much like to see you play some more ragtime pieces, your other videos were absolutely brilliant!

  • @pianogirl98
    @pianogirl98 14 лет назад +4

    It sounds amazing! Very interesting!
    Too bad that most pianos don't have the Harmonic Pedal.

  • @PiotrBarcz
    @PiotrBarcz 4 года назад +1

    Neat. I like the sound it creates.

  • @wilhelmorangenbaum163
    @wilhelmorangenbaum163 5 лет назад +7

    Compose the first pieces that require a harmonic pedal - My new goal

  • @LearningPiano80
    @LearningPiano80 14 лет назад +1

    Wow, incredible :-) Thank you very much for explaining the harmonic padel :-)

  • @angelaevans8632
    @angelaevans8632 4 года назад +3

    I had wondered what it meant when you use “ with harmonic pedal” in the title. I now know. So do you have your Feurich piano with this adapted or was it built with this pedal? It’s a beautiful sound anyway and I’m sure it takes some practice to use correctly. Wonderful performance again Paul and a clear explanation of its purpose.

  • @josephgiuseppedegregorio4553
    @josephgiuseppedegregorio4553 2 года назад

    GORGEOUS

  • @Mrmmm88
    @Mrmmm88 11 лет назад +3

    Never mind its the opposite affect of sostenuto. Very cool indeed!

  • @PutItAway101
    @PutItAway101 14 лет назад

    Very nice and intriguing sound

  • @MuckyGhost
    @MuckyGhost 8 лет назад +14

    1:15.

  • @cubusdk
    @cubusdk 14 лет назад

    Very interesting video...

  • @ThomasAndersenPiano
    @ThomasAndersenPiano 11 лет назад +2

    Hi- The pedal markings? Is the mirrored img. a sign that tell you to release the Harmonic pedal? I just read, thats the way the Soft Pedal markings work! Also, I was wondering if the first symbol is Fully Pressed, second symbol is Half Pressed and third symbol slightyl pressed?(or the other way around) or if perhaps theres other meanings?! For the time being, Ill just try to use the First of the three pedal markings in my sheet!:)

  • @henrique1944
    @henrique1944 14 лет назад +1

    Beautiful effect the harmonious pedal. This piano in the video has Sustainer pedal?
    I think that Bosendorffer has 4 pedals too. It is possible to use HP in works of Chopin, Liszt, Beethoven or only in musics made by Vanguard composers?

  • @geliopouthapesei
    @geliopouthapesei 5 лет назад +40

    The harmonic pedal should have been the leftest pedal. The traditional sustain pedal should always be the farthest to the right!

    • @annulrsolformrkelse4023
      @annulrsolformrkelse4023 4 года назад +1

      why so?
      I thought it was quite logical to put it right next to the sustain pedal

    • @callum641
      @callum641 4 года назад +2

      There should be no reason for it to be on the left. Keep it on the right because you never need to play the sustain and harmonic pedal at the same time; if it were on the left you wouldn't be able to press the soft pedal!

    • @beaumartin366
      @beaumartin366 4 года назад +3

      i did see a picture of one with the harmonic pedal on the left side actually,
      but i do think that the right side is more logical

    • @vynneve
      @vynneve 2 года назад +1

      Right makes way more sense. But I wish my piano had it at all :( (it's a standup grand. doesn't have harmonic, has (soft, mute, sustain))

    • @intogino
      @intogino 10 месяцев назад

      @@annulrsolformrkelse4023because pianists are used to having their right foot on the sustain

  • @tomershporn1545
    @tomershporn1545 11 лет назад +1

    nice video! i think you should also upload videos in which you show two angles: both of you playing and a camera-shot of the pedals, showing how u use the harmonic pedal and the other pedals... could u do that? let us know

    • @owenlewis
      @owenlewis 7 лет назад +1

      Tomer Shporn ppp

  • @peterfreyhan7562
    @peterfreyhan7562 2 года назад

    But it's NOT an E minor chord; it is an A minor chord, 2nd inversion, with E in the bass. Another way of describing it, familiar to those who understand 'figured bass', would be a 6/4 chord on E. An E minor chord in this notation would be a 5/3 on E.

  • @Mrmmm88
    @Mrmmm88 11 лет назад +5

    How is the harmonic pedal any different from the sostenuto pedal? Or am I just missing something.

  • @seongmin_choi1123
    @seongmin_choi1123 4 года назад

    It sound like vary good reverb effect........

  • @sikulomusic4422
    @sikulomusic4422 3 года назад

    I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS IDEA NOW AND THOUGHT NOBODY HAD DONE IT BUT ALAS!

  • @clavis55
    @clavis55 14 лет назад +1

    So amazing! Have this Pedal only Wendl&Lung Pianos?

    • @ialbk4462
      @ialbk4462 3 года назад +1

      Many digital pianos have the same pedal (even older versions)

    • @BerndBrunsch
      @BerndBrunsch 8 месяцев назад

      I‘d buying my FEURICH 178 with the 4‘th Pedal in 2017 and it‘s the best from the best of the world !

  • @ekklesiast
    @ekklesiast 14 лет назад

    very interesting

  • @flugelmaniac
    @flugelmaniac 14 лет назад +1

    proper damping is always required......fortepianos usually had good damping

  • @ralphk.j7809
    @ralphk.j7809 4 года назад

    Its like a shimmer reverb with more octaves

  • @jefflokanata
    @jefflokanata 5 лет назад

    Wogh, I heard the last chord of this video have beatings so often... which temperament that suitable for this kind of Piano?

  • @tearme6226
    @tearme6226 8 лет назад

    It gives it an airy almost pipe church organ sound. Maybe on some pieces it may sound nice but I don't think Canon in D. Eh to each their own, guess I'm old school.

  • @etnocnad
    @etnocnad 7 лет назад +8

    Maybe there's something wrong with my piano but I can get a similar effect by pressing my sustain pedal very slightly. The harmonic pedal is a cool effect, but I can't see much use for it in real performance. If it catches on, perhaps composers will start to write music for it.

    • @buraktuncer8350
      @buraktuncer8350 5 лет назад

      thats called half pedaling and it's only on acoustic and some digital pianos

    • @jefflokanata
      @jefflokanata 5 лет назад

      There are quarter, half and full pedalling. All have different effect

  • @diegovaladeztorres1893
    @diegovaladeztorres1893 7 лет назад

    Alguien que me pueda traducir al español ¿para qué sirve el cuarto pedal?

    • @Pardock97
      @Pardock97 6 лет назад +1

      Levanta los apagadores de todas las cuerdas y solo bajan tras tocar una tecla (el apagador de dicha tecla, el resto siguen abiertos). Entonces todas las cuerdas pueden resonar por simpatía con las vibraciones de las demás.

  • @Gabdoing3d
    @Gabdoing3d 2 месяца назад

    it's like a ''an ambience'pad'' in classical acustic music ahaha funny know what i mean i guess

  • @user-ok8se5ux9y
    @user-ok8se5ux9y 4 года назад

    Would work better with just intonation

  • @ScaramouchedaVinci
    @ScaramouchedaVinci 8 лет назад

    Sounds a little bit like a electric piano.-

    • @Pianist203
      @Pianist203 7 лет назад +4

      That might be due the way piano was tuned. Sometimes if three piano strings are tuned too perfectly in invidual keys, it might sound a bit too clean and so a bit digital, especially when it's recorded and playbacked. That's why many professional tuners won't tune strings too perfect on concert grand pianos so sound is more authentic sounding. Real challenge is that every key must be tuned same way "a bit off" so sound is symmetrical on every key. It's not by any means out of tune but just a very slightly off on invidual keys so sound is more authentic and interesting.

  • @maxime2929
    @maxime2929 7 лет назад +4

    I'm unsure this is improving the aesthetic quality of the music. Too much resonance in my humble opinion.

    • @catkeys6911
      @catkeys6911 6 лет назад +1

      I agree- sort of. Has kind of a movie soundtrack special effects sound, doesn't it? Good for only certain occasions when you want to add something to a piece that obviously wasn't intended by the composer (who, no doubt, didn't have one of these). It's of somewhat limited value, IMHO.

    • @stevedecklin
      @stevedecklin 4 года назад

      @@catkeys6911 The idea that the current year should be the end of music history is an extremely short sighted one here. I cant see what exactly your point is beyond "music should never advance beyond where it currently is now." Im guessing you dont write music? Why is playing old music the only thought you have when it comes to this? People write new music everyday, why couldn't someone make use of the harmonic pedal in new ways?

  • @davidgleba3832
    @davidgleba3832 3 года назад

    Please speak more slowly!