YOU are the PROBLEM! | Stop. Fix yourself. Then tune the bow.

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Комментарии • 94

  • @ArcheryTalkVideo
    @ArcheryTalkVideo 18 дней назад +1

    But Nathan...why would I want to fix myself when I can just buy a new bow, arrows, broadheads, and release?

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  17 дней назад

      I'm free internet advice. You don't have to explain to your wife why you watch me. You do have to explain where the kids' college fund went though...

    • @fisherman_rue2403
      @fisherman_rue2403 16 дней назад

      🤣

  • @joevandivner9704
    @joevandivner9704 18 дней назад +29

    I would love to see the grip video. I fill like my grip is good but I would love to. See your take so I can determine if I’m right or wrong!

  • @georgemyers6518
    @georgemyers6518 18 дней назад +23

    Absolutely yes please on the grip video.
    This would be greatly appreciated

  • @trloftin
    @trloftin 18 дней назад +20

    hey I would love to see a proper grip video.

    • @newteqcreations
      @newteqcreations 16 дней назад

      George Ryals has one with "A Thing A Week"

  • @Bigdancustomknives
    @Bigdancustomknives 18 дней назад +5

    I would definitely appreciate it if you’d share a video on proper grip.

  • @MatthewBrown-sc5sj
    @MatthewBrown-sc5sj 18 дней назад +5

    I agree with you 100%. Tuning and form come before anything else. I had success with mechanical broadheads. I was just not pleased with how it took 3 deer to die and how long the track was. My buddy turned me onto the Ranch Fairy and I made my plan B arrow which was exactly what it is. The heavier arrow, only 580 grains, and a well structured broadhead has worked well for me. 1 deer went 40 yards and the other 70 yards, all with in my sight. And blood trails I could sprint after. The heavier setup is not to fix my mistakes.

    • @PoeOutdoors
      @PoeOutdoors 18 дней назад +1

      Best post in the comments section. There is a balance to be found in arrow builds and every bow hunter should work on form, but many choose the easy route and buy a crossgun instead.

    • @LtDan-bb1xr
      @LtDan-bb1xr 18 дней назад

      @@PoeOutdoors lol, I really feel sad for all you compound bow tree huggers that are still all butt hurt over crossbows being legal archery equipment. SMH...
      AND.... I have seen more compound bow tree huggers just switch their arrows up to the ranch fags heavy arrow caveman setup because they have been brainwashed that IT IS MORE FORGIVING on lack of practice, poor form, bad shoots, hitting bone, shitty shot selection and basic archery hunting knowledge. But hey, lets put down crossbow hunters because they are the real problem for the stealthy real hunting machine compound bow hunters. LMFAO....
      GFOH with that!!!
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ashleysmith4191
      @ashleysmith4191 18 дней назад

      The problem is that RF is doing exactly that. Bandaging his piss poor shooting form and tune with a very heavy arrow. It wasn’t until very recently that he actually performed a proper bareshaft tune. He absolutely used to say that you needed to have a 650 or even heavier arrow, quite often. He has even advocated on more than one occasion for NOT waiting for the proper shot because his arrow would allow him to aim directly at bone and go through it to make the kill…dude is laughable at best and absolutely NOT who we should be placing high on our lists for advice. Not everything he says is wrong, I’ll give him that. The Ashby reports have very, very little basis in modern compound bows outside of your first 2-3 principles.

  • @dustinschwering1492
    @dustinschwering1492 18 дней назад +4

    I would most definitely be interested in a proper grip video!

  • @juanrodriguez-mu7ko
    @juanrodriguez-mu7ko 18 дней назад +3

    Yes absolutely make that video. I’m a newbie and need to know how to grip my bow. Thanks in advance.🙏🏽

  • @derekedwards3648
    @derekedwards3648 18 дней назад +3

    Thank you! As a previous archery tech at Cabelas for 8+ years, I told many people NOT to extend/stretch their fingers on their bow hand!! All that does is just tense up the muscles in your hand and screws up your form. A relaxed hand with knuckles at about a 45 degree angle is what’s needed. I see so many people doing that on RUclips and it drives me nuts. 😂

  • @snhojytsud
    @snhojytsud 8 дней назад

    Thank you so much! I shot a recurve as a kid. Bought my 1st compound last week. I’m a trick it out gun guy. So I have been looking at all the cool stuff for archery. Then this video made me realize, I should focus on learning how to shoot properly before anything else.

  • @jamesnordman4058
    @jamesnordman4058 18 дней назад +2

    Absolutely yes! Please make a video on grip.

  • @MrAustinkocher
    @MrAustinkocher 18 дней назад +2

    I subscribed just for the grip video. I'm a decent shot and think my grip is alright, but I want your take on grip.

  • @jeremylazzaro3776
    @jeremylazzaro3776 18 дней назад +3

    Yes do a grip video

  • @dustinthewind302
    @dustinthewind302 18 дней назад +3

    I’m in need of the grip video

  • @unadillariveroutdoors9690
    @unadillariveroutdoors9690 18 дней назад +7

    Needed to be said!

    • @matthunter1667
      @matthunter1667 18 дней назад +1

      Ahh you got guys out here twisting and hanging from saddles , or sitting in a little blind that have less than ideal form and they are consistantly smashing game.
      You also got recurve and longbow guys making shots from every position imaginable with a 60+ inch bow....

  • @Texaslivinoutdoors
    @Texaslivinoutdoors 17 дней назад

    AMEN BROTHER!!! I feel the same way. I picked up target archery last year and didn’t realize how bad I sucked! Bow Hunters pick up a target bow for the off season and learn to shoot.

  • @Picmdeep
    @Picmdeep 18 дней назад +1

    Form and grip is paramount. Been shooting my new mathews lift 29.5 all spring and summer and the sucker SHOOTS. All tuned up and ready for the PA opener! Thanks for another great vid brother.

  • @michaelpoplawski3246
    @michaelpoplawski3246 18 дней назад +1

    Your teaching videos are very well done, your teaching background really comes through. I'd appreciate it if you could produce a video on proper grip form. More importantly, I think a lot of people would benefit from it.

  • @MintyHeals
    @MintyHeals 18 дней назад +3

    grip video please!

  • @chrismichael112
    @chrismichael112 18 дней назад +1

    Would love to see one, I feel like that is one thing I have struggled to feel like I truly have correct and consistent. As a self taught bow shooter without really any good shops around it can be difficult sometimes.

  • @jeffkonst25
    @jeffkonst25 18 дней назад

    Would love to see a grip video. Going into my third year bow hunting and have self taught throughout the process. Being as new as I am into archery there’s one thing I have come down to notice and start to make my number 1 priority. We can go back and forth on mechanicals vs fixed, heavy vs light and so on. The NUMBER 1 thing for me is SHOT PLACEMENT. Again this is me personally but I feel like no matter what you’re using it all comes down to where you place that arrow. And also the position of the animal. Making better decision shots on how the animal is positioned.

  • @wyattscott1907
    @wyattscott1907 18 дней назад +1

    I would also love to see a grip and form video from you!!

  • @paulmcdonald9901
    @paulmcdonald9901 18 дней назад +2

    Yes, grip video please.

  • @shawnhagen6871
    @shawnhagen6871 18 дней назад

    I’ve been bow hunting 30 years now and I could still use advice on shooting. A proper grip video would be awesome. You can only imagine the trends that have came and gone over the years, not to mention the backyard advice from hunting buddies we’ve had to take with a grain of salt.

  • @nathancourtney2006
    @nathancourtney2006 18 дней назад

    Thanks.
    Would like to hear your take on holding the bow. To find the proper grip is good repeatability is even better.

  • @ZUnit06
    @ZUnit06 18 дней назад

    I would love to see / hear your tips on grip… in particular you peaked my interest regarding the open hand comment and the potential problems that cause. I’m relatively new to all this, and as I got ready for hunting season I was trying to do a bunch of different tuning stuff (walk back & broadhead) and at times I was getting mixed results. So this was a good reminder to pay attention to my form and practice that form.

  • @jaredgreen2524
    @jaredgreen2524 17 дней назад

    I have an alpha X 33 and I decided I was going to work on me and my form all year this year. Went and shot 10 different fixed blades from 60 yards two weeks ago to decide what I’m taking elk hunting next week. All 10 different heads flew with my field points. I mean I could put any of them in the bulls eye from 60. I’ve never had fixed blades fly that good In my 27 years of bow hunting.

  • @Alan_Edwards
    @Alan_Edwards 18 дней назад

    You probably should have said; "no matter the bow....if it's the same draw weight." That said I agree 100%. As a target archer who is not satisfied until I can shoot bullet holes with a bare shaft arrow, I know the importance of a "good" grip. You can not consistently do one with out the other...period. Even though I am confident I have a solid grip, a video showing how to develop one is always a great idea !!
    John Dudley did a grip video about a month that showed how holding a lighter in the fingers of your grip hand can help develop a good grip. It's a pretty good method.

  • @gtchalie5038
    @gtchalie5038 18 дней назад +2

    Thank you! Next PSA, "GET YOUR BOW OUT AND PRACTICE MORE THAN ONE WEEK BEFORE OPENING WEEKEND! " I know so many people who think they can pull their bow out and drill tacks and be ready. Then still go hunting even tho it's not shooting straight 😒

    • @easternoutdoorsman2521
      @easternoutdoorsman2521 17 дней назад

      While I can agree wholeheartedly with practice often, NC summers at 95+ degrees make it quite a challenge to sit an hour in the heat to practice

  • @richarddean3154
    @richarddean3154 18 дней назад

    You make a great point when suggesting that people have to figure out what works for them. My "measured" draw length is 28.4 inches but I shoot my bow set at 27.5 inches. I found that I shot the shorter length significantly better and felt that even 28 inches was a bit too long when I drawing the bow in non-standard hunting positions. I gave up some speed but I am way more accurate. Wouldn't have known this if I hadn't tinkered a bit with my setup. Good luck this fall.

  • @jeramymccoy1048
    @jeramymccoy1048 18 дней назад +1

    A grip video would be great Nate thanks!

  • @joshlasure3384
    @joshlasure3384 18 дней назад +1

    Love to see the grip video

  • @Ducatistto
    @Ducatistto 18 дней назад

    I would love some videos for early starters, I joined the archery community at the age of 40 and feel like details mentioned on many channels are way more advanced than my skill after 300-500 arrows. Unfortunately I live in Europe and local shops are what does not exist here. I arder bow abroad and got it pre-setup. Then I got some basic tuning myself but for example I struggled with grip, with anchor. I measured my draw length at 29,5 but feel not sure if actually with a bow by the nose it is a perfect length for me and how to make sure.
    I know that a local archery shop would be best for that. I try to find it online and it is not easy.

  • @Skol_trooper88
    @Skol_trooper88 18 дней назад +1

    Would love to see a video on grip

  • @josephr1198
    @josephr1198 18 дней назад +1

    Rages, super fast arrows, and 4 fletch have solved all my problems.

  • @misterwhymer4473
    @misterwhymer4473 18 дней назад

    Would love as much content as you would be willing to produce regarding form!

  • @KeystoneOutdoorsman
    @KeystoneOutdoorsman 18 дней назад

    I realized yesterday after shooting a bunch and broadhead tuning with frustration I realized my bow was slightly offset with my release. I corrected that and started seeing success, a simple overlooked form flaw.

  • @brooksvandevelder447
    @brooksvandevelder447 18 дней назад

    Never hurts to hear a pros take on grip. I bare shaft tune and go from there

  • @gfrey5711
    @gfrey5711 17 дней назад

    Grip video would be great. Stupid question: why aren't more grips designed to help guide an ideal position?

  • @theMobileHuntersEXPO
    @theMobileHuntersEXPO 18 дней назад +1

    Give us a grip vid!!!

  • @NATHANBROWN80
    @NATHANBROWN80 18 дней назад

    Amen!!! You can't tune an arrow or a bow to make up for bad and inconsistent form or bow fitment.

  • @matthunter1667
    @matthunter1667 18 дней назад

    There's plenty of guys hanging from saddles with horrible form that are consistently smashing game.
    Standing in your yard in a t shirt taking your time and shooting at small dots definitely requires good form to be consistent.
    But in the woods where stuff can happen fast and unexpected , thousands of shots are made each year where form had to be thrown out the window to make the shot happen before the opportunity was gone.

  • @Practice2Perfection
    @Practice2Perfection 18 дней назад +1

    PLEASE MAKE THE VIDEO ON PROPER BOW GRIP. PLEASE !!!

  • @henrybrylowski1332
    @henrybrylowski1332 18 дней назад

    I'd watch a grip video for sure! I'm sure I can stand for some improvement!

  • @JSJTOUTDOORS
    @JSJTOUTDOORS 18 дней назад +1

    Grip video please

  • @VeteransOvercomingDisabilities
    @VeteransOvercomingDisabilities 17 дней назад

    Grip video! I had a grip that worked pretty well, buuuuut, went down the rabbit hole to find the perfect grip, got worse, and now I can’t quite find my original grip. I know it sounds stupid, “just do what you were doing before” . Trust me I would love to. I got greedy and wanted perfection, and am now kinda on the struggle bus. Any info you would like to discuss regarding grip would be greatly appreciated. 🤙🏼

  • @nathangarman7232
    @nathangarman7232 18 дней назад

    Awesome video very informative love how u got to the point I got to chronograph mine

  • @ralphdeniscojr6198
    @ralphdeniscojr6198 18 дней назад +1

    Well said

  • @gagedirisio3144
    @gagedirisio3144 17 дней назад

    yes please make a video i struggle with my grip. and would love some help

  • @alexdado1512
    @alexdado1512 18 дней назад

    Please do a grip video. I know my grip is my weakest link. I’ve watched other grip videos, hasn’t really helped much.

  • @carlwydrzynski3578
    @carlwydrzynski3578 18 дней назад

    Did you already make a grip video a few years ago? Either way I'll watch anything you publish. Keep up the good work.

  • @randyjerrett3385
    @randyjerrett3385 17 дней назад

    Love to see video on grip

  • @Pigpen1202
    @Pigpen1202 18 дней назад

    I’d like to see a grip video

  • @jrod4717
    @jrod4717 18 дней назад +1

    Chris Bee's most recent video says differently

  • @Elkaholics
    @Elkaholics 18 дней назад

    U give me a good laugh often. Much respect brother

  • @brpnw4r94
    @brpnw4r94 18 дней назад +1

    Word

  • @user-yo2ql8gv4j
    @user-yo2ql8gv4j 18 дней назад

    So unfortunately I'm not able to change bows at the moment so I only have a sight, stabilizer and arrow rest and my bow is a work out for sure with just that no quiver or arrows on it , it weights in at 8 pounds is there anything I can do to make it lighter

  • @joelbruce7466
    @joelbruce7466 18 дней назад

    Question. Why do shop tecks shoot bows for you through paper.? Is it because they know their grip is right and maybe the bow owners grip isn’t.
    Please do a Grip video. I don’t know what to do with my thumb.

  • @user55890
    @user55890 18 дней назад +1

    grrrrip video!!!!

  • @kip.k
    @kip.k 18 дней назад

    Grip video please!

  • @paulwallis4072
    @paulwallis4072 18 дней назад

    Yes, make that video!

  • @josecasillas6383
    @josecasillas6383 18 дней назад

    Another great video brother! 🏹🦌🥩

    • @josecasillas6383
      @josecasillas6383 18 дней назад

      Thnx for always answering my emails brother. You are by far the best archery tech/teacher I know man. Keep em coming brother!

  • @davidmayers1645
    @davidmayers1645 18 дней назад

    Most people who are struggling have 1 of 3 problems: bad grip, wrong draw length, poor shoulder or neck position.

  • @ctreece7506
    @ctreece7506 18 дней назад

    Not only does a 650 grain arrow fix all form flaws, it will also blow through a whole herd of water buffalo with a 50 lb bow. Ranch fairy said so and I believe everything he says.

  • @d500mag2
    @d500mag2 18 дней назад +1

    Hmmmm, yeah. Chris Bee's problem could be form.
    I have never heard anyone on the light or heavy side say arrow was a fix for tune or form. Always hear 1- get your bow right 2- get your form right, otherwise you won't have a clue as to what's happening
    kinda like Chris Bee with water buffalo

  • @marcoengelbracht4141
    @marcoengelbracht4141 18 дней назад

    Grip Video, pleeease.

  • @dhsu04
    @dhsu04 18 дней назад

    Is that a binocular harness? What brand is it?

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  18 дней назад

      Elevation. Excellent harness thay uses a fold top with a magnet.

  • @juliusjames5577
    @juliusjames5577 18 дней назад

    👍grip it video

  • @mikeguy9668
    @mikeguy9668 16 дней назад

    Of course form has to be right. This isn't a question

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  16 дней назад +1

      Well said!!!

    • @mikeguy9668
      @mikeguy9668 15 дней назад

      ​@@averagejackarchery lol well it's the fundamentals right. You have to have a solid baseline before you start tinkering

  • @charlesshepherd9132
    @charlesshepherd9132 15 дней назад

    But it’s so much easier to blame the equipment and throw money at it than it is to accept that you’re the common problem in everything.

  • @mommiescommiekiller6620
    @mommiescommiekiller6620 10 дней назад

    Hand grip video

  • @barbellsandbowhunting
    @barbellsandbowhunting 18 дней назад

    Old saying so please don't cancel me for it but it's "the Indian not the arrow"
    Let's modernize that to "it's the shooter not the arrow"
    Work on you.
    An expert will make sub par equipment still work!

  • @luketice2949
    @luketice2949 18 дней назад

    100% make the grip video

  • @that_boom_dude
    @that_boom_dude 18 дней назад

    🤜🏻🐔

  • @robertdeis132
    @robertdeis132 18 дней назад

    Do the video.

  • @juliusjames5577
    @juliusjames5577 18 дней назад

    Keep quiet Jack! I’m trying to convince the wife that a new Mathew’s lift will fix all my problems.

  • @calvinfisher-
    @calvinfisher- 18 дней назад

    You listening ranch fairy!?😂

  • @tkinsey472
    @tkinsey472 18 дней назад

    (2) Videos: GRIP & ANCHOR POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @SideofSausage
    @SideofSausage 18 дней назад

    Watch out for the fairy dusters coming in to tell you that it's so elitist of you to tell people to work on shooting better. Should be spending even more time cutting, nock tuning, RF test kitting to find the one perfect bend around the untuned bow and poor form as an average joe (or Jack!)