Remember that an informed consumer is a smart consumer. If you're unsure as to how the game will be in the end, even after the video, just wait for reviews from a trusted source.
Ever since I got shafted by CDPR and CP2077, I never pre-order and always wait for reviews after a day of the game being released. Since even review copies that these reviewers get can be incomplete or misleading. Should probably wait a week or month before buying a new game just to be an ultra well informed consumer lol because these days, they can change a game with patches that negatively impact the experience (like Stellar Blade and censorship).
the devs straight up said like a year ago - its sekiro, but instead of you getting fuked, you are the one fuking everybody. Basically its "what if doomguy were in sekiro", you suppose to feel like god in this game, not "overcome" challenges.
Still hope it's gonna be challenging, or at least that it gives us the means to make it challenging.. A game that's not challenging is rarely fun for more then a couple hours imo.
@@Nymerius87 Not everything has to be Fromsoft level of challenge lmao, god of war or dmc are challenging enough for me.. just put a easy medium hard menu or whatever
@@RoronoaKennpachi so i agree that challenging game is more fun then "being a god", but on the other hand - Prototype, Infamous, Doom, Serious Sam, Saints Row, Crackdown maybe? i never played crackdown.... all those games are about you being a god that destroys everything on your way, and they are insanely fun. I would assume that this game is about "the beginning" of Sun Wukong, and you can actually see it in couple of the trailers, i think you start as "nobody" and get that challenge you expect from a soulslike game, and by the end you gonna become that "God that destroys everything super easy".
A "soulslike" that focuses more on offence than defence sound pretty appealing at this point in time. I'm kinda tired of bosses basically being all about getting used to movement patterns and sneaking in an attack here and there.
@@jayomega2717 you're playing it boringly if that's how you play. It's more about positioning and domineering the pace of the fight by posture breaking and baiting out the right attacks to punish. I barely roll in a boss fight. But I agree, a game for everyone is a game for no one. It's not for you and that's awesome
@@QuantumTelephoneposture breaking? Which souls did you play?😂 there’s no such mechanic with the big bosses 😂 It’s just poke and roll away and some of them just have parryable attacks, that’s all
I had a buddy the other day tell me that if it has a boss, it's a soulslike. Like he had never faced a boss in a game before, which I know is untrue lmao
@MattPhannyPack it is for me because I RAGE at souls games 😂 So really just out of not wanting to waste my money on a game I know I'll hate cuz I suck 🥲
The soulslike comparisons won't stop. It's become a household word just like, oh just Google it, regardless of what search engine someone is using. It gets clicks and those "journalists" sadly need the clickbait for views.
Well they need to stop trying to make folks play games that some get stuck on the first minion and just stop playing waste of money some like challenges n that's fine but some folks dont got time for that and just want to enjoy the story
@@ronthorn3 naw I have a life I can't devote a week learning some bs back when I ain't have s*** or my own Lil hvac biz to run id prob have time....nice cars land excites me not OHHH I PLATINUM SUCH N SUCH GAME YALL BETTER GET GOOD foh that hype train lame
@@delb15you don’t have to buy a real game, purchase a ps5 and get one of those games that plays it self for you all you have to do is press forward on the thumb stick and hit a button from time to time, you’re clearly too dog sht at games to be able to pick them up and learn them so try one of those interactive movies
I trust the devs know exactly what they're doing. Combat and bosses. Who cares if it's linear or whatever. You're here to fight demon after demon. I for one and super excited for that. As much as I enjoyed Elden Ring/Shadow of the Erdtree, I am really needing something that doesn't compel me to wander around investigating every corner of an open world. Set me on a path, get me to the boss.
@@codymadison9993 Re-read my comment please 🙄. I said I trust they know what they're doing. As-in, I trust that they aren't trying to include unnecessary features/mechanicas/etc. If they stay focused, I forsee this being a polished product.
I also think the perfect dodge in black myth wukong is very similar to wo long fallen dynasty with deflect as they both have the timing where you have to press just before getting hit
Why do these youtubers keep claiming this game is a boss rush? There are level designs and 120 different non-boss mobs in the game. A brief research shows that the boss-rush idea came out of nowhere. You guys are actually just smearing for no reason.
I think people are saying that because every time they show footage of the game FOR THE MOST PART, not all the time, it's just of boss fights. They haven't really shown much npc interaction, platforming for complicated level design, etc. Hell a lot of the footage shown in this video I hadn't even seen, so it looks more explorable than I thought. Wouldn't mind something close to God of war as far as structure. You mentioned sekiro which I didn't play, but heard nothing but good things about it. Guess we'll find out soon
Well, I wouldn't say they're smearing for no reason - they're clearly doing it for their own self-interest so they can get a lot of hits on their 'somewhat controversial' video lol. XD
Because it is... Have you seen any NPC in all the trailers and gameplay they've shown? Each video out there shows Woukon fighting a single boss like creature. So unless we see some NPCs we gonna call it a Boss Rush. And that's not us being negative. We are just calling it for what we've seen.
black myth DOES have a "come back when you are stronger" approach. chapter 2 is case in point: the yellow sage destroys everyone who doesn't do the optional quest in the area that awards major defensive upgrade and attack etc.
Thank you for sharing this information about the upcoming game Black Myth Wukong. I think that a point has now been reached where the term Soulslike starts to get overstretched, doing both the original Souls games and the new games from other developers no justice imo. And it sometimes raises expectations in the player which the game can not fulfil, because it is meant to be something very different than a classical Soulslike. I am myself quite happy that the level structure in Wukong is more similar to DMC or Bayonetta than what is usually used in Soulslike games. Many Soulslike games (excluding the recent Lords of the Fallen game from Hexworks) suffer from a boring and not really challenging level design where it is often possible to run to the next bonfire without having to have any enemy encounters (you just run or ride past them). Making the levels between the bosses only something like filler content for providing the player with upgrade materials and things like this. For an action combat game like Wukong it doesn't make any sense to have such a level structure at all and it is good that it seems that the gameplay density is going to be high due to this approach the developers have used for the game.
Bonfire? Oh you mean like a checkpoint? Estus Flask? Oh you mean like a potion? Stamina system? Oh you mean like every game with a stamina system before Demon's Souls? Like Monster Hunter? Hard boss battle? See again Monster Hunter. It's a Souls-like!! Oh you mean you've played nothing but Souls games? Gotcha.
Brain rotted istg💀 yes there are souls aspects..ITS A SPIN on the souls features..the game is a MIX of DS and DMC and Bayonetta…NOT a full Soulslike😅 W bait tho
@@thetrashcanman7537lock on systems predate souls games, so does dodge rolling (monster hunter), and the combat is not the same at all. The game was directly said to be inspired by the new god of war games
I saw somewhere that there's supposed to be over 80 bosses or something. I'm not sure what potentially 80 bosses in 15 hours says about the difficulty. I'm pretty excited about this. It feels closer to games like Nioh from what I've seen, and I love that.
I'm NOT Pre-Ordering this. I will wait to watch live streams and reviews from ppl I trust. I hope its a great game but I'm def holding off until I know what I'm actually going to get.
I will definitely not watch other people play it first, or anyone's opinion before I formed mine. After I have my opinion, then I will see what other people think. Just don't expect any game to be something, enjoy what the developer made.
@@BelmontHickson people have different preference, some people might find some design good but other people might not. Personally I like go in with no perception and expectations. Like the feeling of experience it for the first time without knowing anything.
My expectations were right in line with this, and I'm glad to get away from something gigantic, open world, long, mazelike, or really long for a little bit. In my mind I was comparing it to Stellar Blade with a little bit of Nioh and a pinch of Sekiro, but I think a Devil May Cry or God of War comparison might be more apt? Souls games and their ilk may be my favorite to sink my teeth into, but I really do want more games emphasizing gratifying soulslike combat in a smaller, tighter package, so I'm hoping Wukong won't disappoint. At the end of the day all I want is just a great experience.
Man I can already see ppl be like "IT'S NOT A GOOD SOULS LIKE" lmfao. Ppl live in their own head. Brain mushed by souls only games. This is not a souls like! And thank god. We don't need more. I can already smell the amount of nonsensical reviews coming.
Wukong is the monkey king....those who knows Chinese folklore stories knows who the monkey king is. This game gonna be fun. Definitely gonna buy it. It's gonna be super fun.
@user-oe9ov4dv4b it's attributed to Wu Cheng'un a Chinese novelist, poet and politian during the Ming Dynasty. It's based on a Buddhist monk travelling West to get sacred texts.
I'm hoping I can squeeze at least 30 hours out of the game if I do absolutely everything. I also heard there were potentially multiple endings so that would up playtime and replay ability as well. But this game is definitely right up my alley, although I would definitely enjoy it more if it were a little bit more open ended as that's what I always enjoy, I'm sure it will be a blast either way.
Really hoping I enjoy this game. I’m fine with a game being linear, but to be just boss after boss with no places to explore will be a slight let down for me. Regardless, I’m extremely excited to play and preordered the deluxe version!
Got it today after the benchmark test. It showed me that the devs were willing to put in work to help the player at no cost. That benchmark is a great way to test your gaming PC in general too.
Honestly the biggest interesting thing I took away from this was learning that the story is neither Journey to the West nor a prequel to it as I was starting to expect, but a SEQUEL. That's intriguing but also a bit worrying, am I gonna need to track down and actually read Journey to the West to know what's going on here? I have vague notions of it, mostly from a Playstation SRPG of the same name that introduced me to the concept, but I've never been able to get my hands on the original before.
I don’t think you need to read the fiction itself, just basic ideas of Wukong’s characters. Like he hides his Jingubang in his ear, he can change into 72 forms, he conquered 81 monsters with his fellowship… stuff like that, just basic knowledge that every Chinese grew up with without actually reading the novel
@@xueshang1035 I do think looking at some tldr can help, at least knowing yellow brow and the melon selling buddha. Not only because they are in the trailer, but also the game's background seems to be demon king pretend to be buddha, and all real buddha disappear. In the original story, yellow brow was the demo king that pretend to be buddha and fool the gang. He was stopped with the help of melon selling buddha.
I think going through tldr and getting to know some of the main demon king/ monster's plot will help. Because when you play through the game, then you see them again it's going to be amazing. Like "oh I remember how monkey king beat this guy, glad to see this monster is doing good" or "damn this guy didn't learn from his mistake " or "no way this deity is dead, that's his corpse" that sort of thing. Because I think if the game is linear, it's probably more focus on the plot. There is a animated journey to the west youtube series you can check out. It's really quick, and the story is good too.
@@yudilai6704 agreed 👍🏼 the story is set to happen after the Journey to the west. So for a lot of us Chinese kids, it’s just so exciting to see all the monsters or Yaoguai, and some of the plots that resonate with the original story. But at the same time, I’m excited to see where the new story will take us. Damn I had goosebumps the moment I hear the main theme song … I’m not even a serious gamer BTW, and this game is definitely too hard core for me to 😂 but still very excited and already asked a friend to live stream on the 20th cuz I just have to see it
@@xueshang1035 It's not soul-like, it's more like god of war, so it's not that hardcore in difficulty. But it's hardcore for my laptop. I am not a big gamer either, I don't have good equipment.
The 15 hour length was said back in 2015. It’s been 4 years and many things have changed since then. According to a leaked review it took 90 hours to 100% the game
I love Souls Like games. I have played all Dark Souls, Demons souls, Elden ring, Bloodborne and Sekiro. But the souls like tag has to STOP, its getting tiresome, we already know that is a marketing ploy, but it has to stop
it's not a marketing ploy at all in this case. the devs flat out said it's not a soulslike. however, having played it, it's mechanically a soulslike. and also, yeah every studio slaps soulslike tag on stream to try to gain steam. pun intended
Finally, someone. It's not yet another Soulslike, thank god! And it should be visible by the footage that it isn't. I'll just copy an earlier post from me in here: "...I've played Black Myth Wukong last year at GamesCom for half an hour and it's a definite recommendation. At that time (and a year is a long time for development) it did not everything perfect but it was impressive and fun. The nitpicks I had were things that are usually fixed, like an easy exploit that led to an infinite for example. And based on that I have to disagree with the video here [the one the original comment was refering to, not this one] and agree with Game Science, it's not a Soulslike. It share some similarities because Soulslike share similarities with other action games, it's mainly the bonfires and the flask. But then you also have him do Table Hopper like evades with an after image, also a bit similar to 2B, you have four stances, or let's just call them styles you switch just like a famous style switcher and he has a Devil Trigger. There's as much, actually way more, DNA of another subgenre of third person action games in there. At least based on that playable demo that included four bosses. Even the banther before the fight, with those who can talk was familiar. It feels more like an easy to grasp character action game, somewhere between Soulslikes and those in complexity. And even if only comparing to From Software games, it would be way closer to Sekiro than the Dark Souls games. And if the dev also says it, then this is good news! The one bad thing I can say is the release date, then I'm on the way to this years GamesCom, which starts the next day, and I can't play it for almost a whole week." Oh, and it also has the crappy kind of lock on the Soulsgames, new God of War and others have. That's annoying but it's the style of the time, I guess...
For reference, the PS5 version of Black Myth includes two modes - 4K at 30fps and 1440p at 60fps. 1440p (DLSS Quality mode, Frame Generation ON, "Cinematic" preset with NO Ray tracing)
I find it a bit concerning that weeks before launch, we have not seen uncut extended game sequences but only very selected individual fights. Like to this point from all I have seen this looks more like a boss rush game than anything else.
I've been pretty skeptical of this game since it was first announced. I hope I am wrong in my skeptisisms, but it would not be the first time that an extremely hyped and marketed game did not meet expectations.
true.. if this is something focusing on boss rush with a staged level like DMC5, I'm glad I cancel my preorder. But I still want to see the full walkthrough first. Hope we can see it sooner
I woulda never thought this was a third person action adventure game. How did i survive through the 90s without RUclips telling me what kind of game im buying
Back in 2020 the developers said it would take AT LEAST 15 hours to beat. But that was in early stages of development 4 years ago. I bet it's takes minimum double that to beat the base game.
@@p00ky76 I'm about 500 hours into Cyberpunk (purchased on release), 100 or so in Death Stranding, many hundreds in Skyrim, Elden Ring, and many more - I like to take my time lol. XD
I adored Nioh 1&2 so very happy its not a souls game. I loved Dark souls also, however loved Nioh like an Irish samurai brother. Great info thanks for posting👌
Would the story be good for people who don't know the ming dynasty novel or havent seen any references in media or will the game just expect you to know certain things?
Darksiders 3 had a kind of souls hitboxy approach without stamina and with a perfect dodge system, and no other defensive options. While it had its moments, combat devolved into perfect dodging every attack and hitting the enemy straight after. Definitely need more meat on the bones than that- it seems like that is the case with WuKong.
If it's a linear game, it's going to focus more on the story, then I recommend getting to know the tldr of the main plot with detail that introduce the battle with each demon kings. For the maximum experience. So when you see the some of the familiar monsters in game you will be like, oh I know him how did he end up like this, and wondering what happened. It's more engaging to found out previous deity is dead/ corrupted or previous little henchman become super strong. Or you when you get some op item you remember what they did in the original story, who were their previous owner. That's like another layer of experience.
I heard that phisical copy of the game "the box" will have not cd is that true? So in other world to play this on PS5 you need to have internet to install even if you buy box?
This shit is Soulslike I can't take it anymore I'm going to buy a combat game in this style expecting some innovation and no it's Soulslike THEY DON'T INNOVATE ANYMORE IN ANYTHING
I was going to get it and probably still will but did u say 15hrs to complete it?! That's crazy and if I heard that right it's not worth it, we pay too much for that short of a game. Definitely a later game or sale pick up then.
It also has three endings and new game plus so there’s incentive to play it multiple times 👀 at least it isn’t a one and done thing like hellblade 2 is (which is only $10 cheaper but half the length)
15 hour boss rush sounds terrible. Usually exploration you’ll mitigate this time but if there’s none of that and no way to grind and you have to have the perfect fight each time that would be frustrating as hell to just go from fight to fight. Something as deep as Chinese mythology should have an equally immersive a explorable world. I’m prepared for a huge let down.
🤦🏿♂️ I got u…it’s obviously not a boss rush. The bosses ARE an instrumental part of the game but the there will also be grunts and mini bosses. And as far as your immersion goes..good games immerse you with the actual STORY Also we don’t know the actual game length or the pacing so don’t judge so quickly bros. We don’t have the game yet.
there has been a comment of the devs that they changed the demo gameplay to have higher concentration of bosses, actual game probably be less boss rushy
As much as I love Souls and Souls-likes, not every game needs to fit that mold. And I've been saying for years that we need more linear games, I'm getting very tired of open world everything.
Fun fact: It became the most wishlisted game on Steam after IGN wrote a hit piece article accusing Game Science of being sexist towards its female employees.
Can we all agree that we're doubling down and this IS GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!? So stoked for this specific game. It runs on handhelds too! Steam deck! Ally!
So stellar blade could be its closest comparison? a hack and slash in which healing is done in real-time impeding other actions. Thnx for the info, indeed there are many people thinking this game is a souls like.
It reminds me of Jedi Survivor, it's also wrongly called a Souls like when it has far more in common with games like GOW 3, Prince of Persia, Ratchet and Clank 1 and Jak 2. An action platformer
Ah the souls brain rot has confused some people. I for one am so happy I don't have to deal with the open level design. I just want to get to boss and hit boss with staff. We don't need more open world/open level games, we have enough
7:30 the devs expect it to take 15h to beat and it costs 60 euros? Unless the game is either extremely replayable/best thing ever created that sounds like horrible value.
I'm just not seeing enough to interest me. Plus I can't be arsed with another pointlessly difficult slog for a miniscule bit of progression. I get so sense of enjoyment or "Reward" Overcoming stupidly difficult gameplay either.
I will never stop playing soulslike games. I will never get tired of soulslike games either. I know this isn't another soulslike but more similar to stellarblade than anything is my guess.
It's strange to me how many creative properties can't just be their own thing these days. There's this addictive compulsion to compare something to everything else.
No. It’s perfect. We don’t need it slogged down by tons of crap for padding. 15-20 hrs is ENOUGH time for a perfect game. Plus I don’t doubt that later on free dlc will come out.
I think the Sekiro comparison in this video is a bit of misnomer. Certain bosses can be made easier by upgrading tools for your arm, but that part is entirely optional.
physicals copies are gonna die in the next decade. They are already dying. Many countries done even sell physical anymore. The only company that will still survive in physical is Nintendo.
Literally what is the difference between digital and physical copies? Digital is so much more accessible and convenient rather than a physical copy. At the end of the day you’re still getting the same game
So the street are saying that this game has bonfires, you lose XP when you die, and the whole stamina system, which I don’t understand why it’s there?? Why are we limiting movements of a literal GOD??
This isnt souls levels of difficulty, but it is normal actuon game levels of difficulty - which is just fun. Nothing wrong with it. Most of us enjoyed DMC and Onimusha. Or dare I say....Bujungai (PS2). Those are just a few action combat games i think of fondly as pure stylish fun with some challeneges, but always approachable. Further from Ninja Gaiden and Souls.
Im glad its not a souls like game tbh 2009 Demon Souls and 2011 Dark Souls combat system is so old, it has become out dated, LET IT GO! "dodge parry, dodge parry, Attack, learn the, mobs and bosses movement", rinse and repeat .....ya ground breaking combat, let it go guys.
@@dylanbarnes9195 actually if the vast majority of people still enjoy that type of game (as evidenced by its success) then it’s a you problem bud try again lmao
I will call Black Myth: Wukong a Soulslike the same way I call Wo Long a Soulslike, the same way I call Nioh a Soulslike, the same way I call the Remnant series Soulslike, the same way I call Thymesia a Soulslike, and the same way I call Sekiro a Soulsborne. I do not care what anyone else says. Call it what you want I'll call it what I want.
@@TheAlphazoneYT Yeah I guess so, but there are way more that ain't so great. The point is not to turn every game into a soulslike, because it seems like for some people that's what they want.
Remember that an informed consumer is a smart consumer. If you're unsure as to how the game will be in the end, even after the video, just wait for reviews from a trusted source.
Btw this is more of ninja gaiden type of game more than a modern gow or dmc sad ninja gaiden is being forgotten
@@KalebCotton-zv1ob even more so onimusha is being forgotten as well
I am waiting for a witcher like game.i don't enjoy combat all the time
I quite literally ignore hype , the only thing that matters to me is the opinions of small to medium sized RUclipsrs and ordinary People
Ever since I got shafted by CDPR and CP2077, I never pre-order and always wait for reviews after a day of the game being released. Since even review copies that these reviewers get can be incomplete or misleading. Should probably wait a week or month before buying a new game just to be an ultra well informed consumer lol because these days, they can change a game with patches that negatively impact the experience (like Stellar Blade and censorship).
For those who don't know, it's an FPS/RTS/Racing hybrid
don't forget 3d platformer
don't forget mmo
Blasphemy!!!! Anyone with eyes knows its a farming simulator game.
With dating sim elements
lmao!
the devs straight up said like a year ago - its sekiro, but instead of you getting fuked, you are the one fuking everybody. Basically its "what if doomguy were in sekiro", you suppose to feel like god in this game, not "overcome" challenges.
Still hope it's gonna be challenging, or at least that it gives us the means to make it challenging.. A game that's not challenging is rarely fun for more then a couple hours imo.
@@RoronoaKennpachi imo i want more of an adventure not wasting countless hour trying to kill a boss but to each their own.
@@Nymerius87 Not everything has to be Fromsoft level of challenge lmao, god of war or dmc are challenging enough for me.. just put a easy medium hard menu or whatever
@@RoronoaKennpachisadly there‘s no difficulty options but it won't be that hard
@@RoronoaKennpachi so i agree that challenging game is more fun then "being a god", but on the other hand - Prototype, Infamous, Doom, Serious Sam, Saints Row, Crackdown maybe? i never played crackdown.... all those games are about you being a god that destroys everything on your way, and they are insanely fun. I would assume that this game is about "the beginning" of Sun Wukong, and you can actually see it in couple of the trailers, i think you start as "nobody" and get that challenge you expect from a soulslike game, and by the end you gonna become that "God that destroys everything super easy".
A "soulslike" that focuses more on offence than defence sound pretty appealing at this point in time. I'm kinda tired of bosses basically being all about getting used to movement patterns and sneaking in an attack here and there.
But, that's what I like.
@@QuantumTelephone Not everyone likes rolling simulators
@@jayomega2717 you're playing it boringly if that's how you play. It's more about positioning and domineering the pace of the fight by posture breaking and baiting out the right attacks to punish. I barely roll in a boss fight. But I agree, a game for everyone is a game for no one. It's not for you and that's awesome
Every game is a learning process.
@@QuantumTelephoneposture breaking? Which souls did you play?😂 there’s no such mechanic with the big bosses 😂 It’s just poke and roll away and some of them just have parryable attacks, that’s all
People calling every third-person action RPG a "soulslike" is getting really old
I had a buddy the other day tell me that if it has a boss, it's a soulslike. Like he had never faced a boss in a game before, which I know is untrue lmao
Had this same convo with my friend yesterday
Is this really that big of a deal...like honestly 😂
@MattPhannyPack it is for me because I RAGE at souls games 😂 So really just out of not wanting to waste my money on a game I know I'll hate cuz I suck 🥲
@@MattPhannyPack Just a minor annoyance
The soulslike comparisons won't stop. It's become a household word just like, oh just Google it, regardless of what search engine someone is using. It gets clicks and those "journalists" sadly need the clickbait for views.
Well they need to stop trying to make folks play games that some get stuck on the first minion and just stop playing waste of money some like challenges n that's fine but some folks dont got time for that and just want to enjoy the story
@@delb15they make games for people like you, it’s called princes peaches play time, or Barney’s play pin.
@@ronthorn3 naw I have a life I can't devote a week learning some bs back when I ain't have s*** or my own Lil hvac biz to run id prob have time....nice cars land excites me not OHHH I PLATINUM SUCH N SUCH GAME YALL BETTER GET GOOD foh that hype train lame
@@ronthorn3or spiderman game and final fantasy game. Dude, souls fan is not a fcking superior just bcoz have so much time sitting.
@@delb15you don’t have to buy a real game, purchase a ps5 and get one of those games that plays it self for you all you have to do is press forward on the thumb stick and hit a button from time to time, you’re clearly too dog sht at games to be able to pick them up and learn them so try one of those interactive movies
I trust the devs know exactly what they're doing. Combat and bosses. Who cares if it's linear or whatever. You're here to fight demon after demon. I for one and super excited for that. As much as I enjoyed Elden Ring/Shadow of the Erdtree, I am really needing something that doesn't compel me to wander around investigating every corner of an open world. Set me on a path, get me to the boss.
Why do you trust the devs? Like what other games have they made that we’ve played?
@@codymadison9993 Re-read my comment please 🙄. I said I trust they know what they're doing. As-in, I trust that they aren't trying to include unnecessary features/mechanicas/etc. If they stay focused, I forsee this being a polished product.
The word you are looking for is Hack and Slash
Black Myth Wukong is a hack and slash game
Technically, souls games are also hack and slash but with lot higher death risk.
@@kreculjkreculj Technically, no they aren't.
@@kevindeas7106 yeah they are: hack and slash + third person Metroidvania = Souls games
Doesn’t this game have bon fire like system. Devil mar cry doesn’t
@@mr.perfect748Well then Souls like - 3rd person metroidvania = hack and slash
I also think the perfect dodge in black myth wukong is very similar to wo long fallen dynasty with deflect as they both have the timing where you have to press just before getting hit
Bro never heard of Bayonetta
EVERYTHING is a "souls-like" nowadays smh. Can't watch a gaming video without hearing that comparison.
It’s the souls degenerates who have ruined gaming. 🤦🏾♂️
Why do these youtubers keep claiming this game is a boss rush? There are level designs and 120 different non-boss mobs in the game. A brief research shows that the boss-rush idea came out of nowhere. You guys are actually just smearing for no reason.
I think people are saying that because every time they show footage of the game FOR THE MOST PART, not all the time, it's just of boss fights. They haven't really shown much npc interaction, platforming for complicated level design, etc. Hell a lot of the footage shown in this video I hadn't even seen, so it looks more explorable than I thought. Wouldn't mind something close to God of war as far as structure. You mentioned sekiro which I didn't play, but heard nothing but good things about it. Guess we'll find out soon
Well, I wouldn't say they're smearing for no reason - they're clearly doing it for their own self-interest so they can get a lot of hits on their 'somewhat controversial' video lol. XD
Why do you think they aren't showing anything but bosses? Because that's the only highlight of the game. So yeah basically a glorified boss rush
And they said the game will be pretty linear, with some open maps
Because it is... Have you seen any NPC in all the trailers and gameplay they've shown? Each video out there shows Woukon fighting a single boss like creature.
So unless we see some NPCs we gonna call it a Boss Rush.
And that's not us being negative. We are just calling it for what we've seen.
Linear games are so much better, not a bad thing
black myth DOES have a "come back when you are stronger" approach. chapter 2 is case in point:
the yellow sage destroys everyone who doesn't do the optional quest in the area that awards major defensive upgrade and attack etc.
Thank you for sharing this information about the upcoming game Black Myth Wukong. I think that a point has now been reached where the term Soulslike starts to get overstretched, doing both the original Souls games and the new games from other developers no justice imo. And it sometimes raises expectations in the player which the game can not fulfil, because it is meant to be something very different than a classical Soulslike. I am myself quite happy that the level structure in Wukong is more similar to DMC or Bayonetta than what is usually used in Soulslike games. Many Soulslike games (excluding the recent Lords of the Fallen game from Hexworks) suffer from a boring and not really challenging level design where it is often possible to run to the next bonfire without having to have any enemy encounters (you just run or ride past them). Making the levels between the bosses only something like filler content for providing the player with upgrade materials and things like this. For an action combat game like Wukong it doesn't make any sense to have such a level structure at all and it is good that it seems that the gameplay density is going to be high due to this approach the developers have used for the game.
Bonfire? Oh you mean like a checkpoint?
Estus Flask? Oh you mean like a potion?
Stamina system? Oh you mean like every game with a stamina system before Demon's Souls? Like Monster Hunter?
Hard boss battle? See again Monster Hunter.
It's a Souls-like!! Oh you mean you've played nothing but Souls games? Gotcha.
Same lock on same dodge system same combat = soulslike. Some of the environments even look the same play blind if you want though
@@thetrashcanman7537 lmao
Brain rotted istg💀 yes there are souls aspects..ITS A SPIN on the souls features..the game is a MIX of DS and DMC and Bayonetta…NOT a full Soulslike😅
W bait tho
@@thetrashcanman7537lock on systems predate souls games, so does dodge rolling (monster hunter), and the combat is not the same at all. The game was directly said to be inspired by the new god of war games
I'd like to see you do better. If not then stop talking shit.
I saw somewhere that there's supposed to be over 80 bosses or something. I'm not sure what potentially 80 bosses in 15 hours says about the difficulty. I'm pretty excited about this. It feels closer to games like Nioh from what I've seen, and I love that.
Ew screw nioh.
I think 15 hrs is for the main line story not all 80 bosses lol
@@ronthorn3have you played nioh
@@ronthorn3 noob detected .
It's not 15 hours. That's only if you literally B line and skip a ton of the bosses
I'm NOT Pre-Ordering this. I will wait to watch live streams and reviews from ppl I trust. I hope its a great game but I'm def holding off until I know what I'm actually going to get.
everybody should do that
Normal thing to do
I will definitely not watch other people play it first, or anyone's opinion before I formed mine.
After I have my opinion, then I will see what other people think.
Just don't expect any game to be something, enjoy what the developer made.
@@coolorochi Buddy, you buy games with actual money. People only buy a game expecting it's good. That's what reviews are for.
@@BelmontHickson people have different preference, some people might find some design good but other people might not.
Personally I like go in with no perception and expectations.
Like the feeling of experience it for the first time without knowing anything.
It’s actually exactly what I was hoping it would be! I absolutely love it and I believe it’s a masterpiece
Tomb raider has bonfires too...
From all the research Ive been doing, its starting to come together and it seems like a really good block puzzle type of game.
My expectations were right in line with this, and I'm glad to get away from something gigantic, open world, long, mazelike, or really long for a little bit. In my mind I was comparing it to Stellar Blade with a little bit of Nioh and a pinch of Sekiro, but I think a Devil May Cry or God of War comparison might be more apt?
Souls games and their ilk may be my favorite to sink my teeth into, but I really do want more games emphasizing gratifying soulslike combat in a smaller, tighter package, so I'm hoping Wukong won't disappoint. At the end of the day all I want is just a great experience.
Man I can already see ppl be like "IT'S NOT A GOOD SOULS LIKE" lmfao. Ppl live in their own head. Brain mushed by souls only games. This is not a souls like! And thank god. We don't need more. I can already smell the amount of nonsensical reviews coming.
I don't think the press will judge this game fairly. I'm interested in what gamers say.
Good lord why not....wait til it comes out to decide what it is?
Wukong is the monkey king....those who knows Chinese folklore stories knows who the monkey king is. This game gonna be fun. Definitely gonna buy it. It's gonna be super fun.
Black myth wukong is korean，
Journey to the West comes from Korea，No china
@@djsd-o4g No, that's an Italian story. Koreans stole him, just like Koreans stole Kpop from Ukraine
@@djsd-o4g go do your research. Black myth wukong is based on Chinese folklore. Nothing Korean about this. 😂
@@djsd-o4gsay that in real life and you will be punched
@user-oe9ov4dv4b it's attributed to Wu Cheng'un a Chinese novelist, poet and politian during the Ming Dynasty.
It's based on a Buddhist monk travelling West to get sacred texts.
I'm hoping I can squeeze at least 30 hours out of the game if I do absolutely everything. I also heard there were potentially multiple endings so that would up playtime and replay ability as well. But this game is definitely right up my alley, although I would definitely enjoy it more if it were a little bit more open ended as that's what I always enjoy, I'm sure it will be a blast either way.
Really hoping I enjoy this game. I’m fine with a game being linear, but to be just boss after boss with no places to explore will be a slight let down for me. Regardless, I’m extremely excited to play and preordered the deluxe version!
Got it today after the benchmark test. It showed me that the devs were willing to put in work to help the player at no cost. That benchmark is a great way to test your gaming PC in general too.
Great explanation. This is basically a fun game you can beat in a weekend.
I'll wait till it's on sale & most of the bugs have been worked out.
Thanks
I just think it’s so cool finally getting something to do with China mythology! Then your playing Wukong holy crap take my money
Honestly the biggest interesting thing I took away from this was learning that the story is neither Journey to the West nor a prequel to it as I was starting to expect, but a SEQUEL. That's intriguing but also a bit worrying, am I gonna need to track down and actually read Journey to the West to know what's going on here? I have vague notions of it, mostly from a Playstation SRPG of the same name that introduced me to the concept, but I've never been able to get my hands on the original before.
I don’t think you need to read the fiction itself, just basic ideas of Wukong’s characters. Like he hides his Jingubang in his ear, he can change into 72 forms, he conquered 81 monsters with his fellowship… stuff like that, just basic knowledge that every Chinese grew up with without actually reading the novel
@@xueshang1035 I do think looking at some tldr can help, at least knowing yellow brow and the melon selling buddha. Not only because they are in the trailer, but also the game's background seems to be demon king pretend to be buddha, and all real buddha disappear. In the original story, yellow brow was the demo king that pretend to be buddha and fool the gang. He was stopped with the help of melon selling buddha.
I think going through tldr and getting to know some of the main demon king/ monster's plot will help. Because when you play through the game, then you see them again it's going to be amazing. Like "oh I remember how monkey king beat this guy, glad to see this monster is doing good" or "damn this guy didn't learn from his mistake " or "no way this deity is dead, that's his corpse" that sort of thing. Because I think if the game is linear, it's probably more focus on the plot. There is a animated journey to the west youtube series you can check out. It's really quick, and the story is good too.
@@yudilai6704 agreed 👍🏼 the story is set to happen after the Journey to the west. So for a lot of us Chinese kids, it’s just so exciting to see all the monsters or Yaoguai, and some of the plots that resonate with the original story. But at the same time, I’m excited to see where the new story will take us. Damn I had goosebumps the moment I hear the main theme song … I’m not even a serious gamer BTW, and this game is definitely too hard core for me to 😂 but still very excited and already asked a friend to live stream on the 20th cuz I just have to see it
@@xueshang1035 It's not soul-like, it's more like god of war, so it's not that hardcore in difficulty. But it's hardcore for my laptop. I am not a big gamer either, I don't have good equipment.
Hopefully figthing multiple enemies doesn't feel clunky like Stellar Blade. Doesn't look as special as people are making it out to be.
The 15 hour length was said back in 2015. It’s been 4 years and many things have changed since then. According to a leaked review it took 90 hours to 100% the game
The combination of games described around 1:42 are my favorite games ever. I'm pre ordering this game
If it’s anything like Sekiro..They can keep this🏌🏾♂️😩
I love Souls Like games.
I have played all Dark Souls, Demons souls, Elden ring, Bloodborne and Sekiro.
But the souls like tag has to STOP, its getting tiresome, we already know that is a marketing ploy, but it has to stop
it's not a marketing ploy at all in this case. the devs flat out said it's not a soulslike. however, having played it, it's mechanically a soulslike.
and also, yeah every studio slaps soulslike tag on stream to try to gain steam. pun intended
Finally, someone. It's not yet another Soulslike, thank god! And it should be visible by the footage that it isn't. I'll just copy an earlier post from me in here:
"...I've played Black Myth Wukong last year at GamesCom for half an hour and it's a definite recommendation. At that time (and a year is a long time for development) it did not everything perfect but it was impressive and fun. The nitpicks I had were things that are usually fixed, like an easy exploit that led to an infinite for example. And based on that I have to disagree with the video here [the one the original comment was refering to, not this one] and agree with Game Science, it's not a Soulslike. It share some similarities because Soulslike share similarities with other action games, it's mainly the bonfires and the flask.
But then you also have him do Table Hopper like evades with an after image, also a bit similar to 2B, you have four stances, or let's just call them styles you switch just like a famous style switcher and he has a Devil Trigger. There's as much, actually way more, DNA of another subgenre of third person action games in there. At least based on that playable demo that included four bosses. Even the banther before the fight, with those who can talk was familiar.
It feels more like an easy to grasp character action game, somewhere between Soulslikes and those in complexity. And even if only comparing to From Software games, it would be way closer to Sekiro than the Dark Souls games. And if the dev also says it, then this is good news!
The one bad thing I can say is the release date, then I'm on the way to this years GamesCom, which starts the next day, and I can't play it for almost a whole week."
Oh, and it also has the crappy kind of lock on the Soulsgames, new God of War and others have. That's annoying but it's the style of the time, I guess...
Excellent information. Really had no idea what to expect and this helps a lot.
For reference, the PS5 version of Black Myth includes two modes - 4K at 30fps and 1440p at 60fps.
1440p (DLSS Quality mode, Frame Generation ON, "Cinematic" preset with NO Ray tracing)
I find it a bit concerning that weeks before launch, we have not seen uncut extended game sequences but only very selected individual fights.
Like to this point from all I have seen this looks more like a boss rush game than anything else.
That's because the devs made the D E M O a boss rush.
I've been pretty skeptical of this game since it was first announced. I hope I am wrong in my skeptisisms, but it would not be the first time that an extremely hyped and marketed game did not meet expectations.
You can find 2+ hours of gameplay of levels and quests online...
true.. if this is something focusing on boss rush with a staged level like DMC5, I'm glad I cancel my preorder. But I still want to see the full walkthrough first. Hope we can see it sooner
@@enol1466if thats so id like that link please
So, this is made for me. Love it!
They have mentioned it's more like God of war combat. People think it's a souls like
I woulda never thought this was a third person action adventure game. How did i survive through the 90s without RUclips telling me what kind of game im buying
I'm looking forward to the reviews coming out. It's looking like a great game.
It's a boss gauntlet with 3 garbage enemies in between each boss.
That's great news tbh, i don't need an other Elden Ring, i'm glad this one isn't.. I'm down for a more "focused" game
Back in 2020 the developers said it would take AT LEAST 15 hours to beat. But that was in early stages of development 4 years ago. I bet it's takes minimum double that to beat the base game.
I hope
It will definitely take me twice as long :D
@@p00ky76 I'm about 500 hours into Cyberpunk (purchased on release), 100 or so in Death Stranding, many hundreds in Skyrim, Elden Ring, and many more - I like to take my time lol. XD
I adored Nioh 1&2 so very happy its not a souls game.
I loved Dark souls also, however loved Nioh like an Irish samurai brother.
Great info thanks for posting👌
Would the story be good for people who don't know the ming dynasty novel or havent seen any references in media or will the game just expect you to know certain things?
Darksiders 3 had a kind of souls hitboxy approach without stamina and with a perfect dodge system, and no other defensive options. While it had its moments, combat devolved into perfect dodging every attack and hitting the enemy straight after. Definitely need more meat on the bones than that- it seems like that is the case with WuKong.
If it's a linear game, it's going to focus more on the story, then I recommend getting to know the tldr of the main plot with detail that introduce the battle with each demon kings. For the maximum experience. So when you see the some of the familiar monsters in game you will be like, oh I know him how did he end up like this, and wondering what happened. It's more engaging to found out previous deity is dead/ corrupted or previous little henchman become super strong. Or you when you get some op item you remember what they did in the original story, who were their previous owner. That's like another layer of experience.
As someone who watch the original tv show live action of journey to the west really glad they finally make a game base on him
I heard that phisical copy of the game "the box" will have not cd is that true? So in other world to play this on PS5 you need to have internet to install even if you buy box?
Thank you for the warning and detailed analysis.
I totally misinterpreted the type of game Wukong is, or was misled by the reporting so far...
This shit is Soulslike I can't take it anymore I'm going to buy a combat game in this style expecting some innovation and no it's Soulslike THEY DON'T INNOVATE ANYMORE IN ANYTHING
I was going to get it and probably still will but did u say 15hrs to complete it?! That's crazy and if I heard that right it's not worth it, we pay too much for that short of a game. Definitely a later game or sale pick up then.
That is what developers have said in multiple interviews.
It also has three endings and new game plus so there’s incentive to play it multiple times 👀 at least it isn’t a one and done thing like hellblade 2 is (which is only $10 cheaper but half the length)
15 hour boss rush sounds terrible. Usually exploration you’ll mitigate this time but if there’s none of that and no way to grind and you have to have the perfect fight each time that would be frustrating as hell to just go from fight to fight. Something as deep as Chinese mythology should have an equally immersive a explorable world. I’m prepared for a huge let down.
Thats whT im thinking now too ....
🤦🏿♂️ I got u…it’s obviously not a boss rush. The bosses ARE an instrumental part of the game but the there will also be grunts and mini bosses. And as far as your immersion goes..good games immerse you with the actual STORY
Also we don’t know the actual game length or the pacing so don’t judge so quickly bros. We don’t have the game yet.
there has been a comment of the devs that they changed the demo gameplay to have higher concentration of bosses, actual game probably be less boss rushy
Monster Hunter is essentialy a 100 h boss Rush Game and people love it (theres of course more to it but i think this game wont be bad)
As much as I love Souls and Souls-likes, not every game needs to fit that mold. And I've been saying for years that we need more linear games, I'm getting very tired of open world everything.
I normally temper my expectations so I don’t get disappointed. But for this I’m throwing caution to the wind so I’m expecting greatness. Can’t wait!
Fun fact: It became the most wishlisted game on Steam after IGN wrote a hit piece article accusing Game Science of being sexist towards its female employees.
yeah that's the final scene for, player and devs in the protection dome while Sweet baby stay outside
thanks for this information, that's pretty messed up
@@albyfrank9636 the article was based on nothing substantial
based
Aaah IGN with their woke agenda lol
Can we all agree that we're doubling down and this IS GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!? So stoked for this specific game. It runs on handhelds too! Steam deck! Ally!
It is what i think it is and it is 1000000000000% my game of the ear
"Like Bayonetta..."
Literally was waiting for someone to say this. Yeah. Gotta cop.
So stellar blade could be its closest comparison? a hack and slash in which healing is done in real-time impeding other actions.
Thnx for the info, indeed there are many people thinking this game is a souls like.
So what you're saying is... It's exactly what I thought it would be?
It reminds me of Jedi Survivor, it's also wrongly called a Souls like when it has far more in common with games like GOW 3, Prince of Persia, Ratchet and Clank 1 and Jak 2. An action platformer
Ah the souls brain rot has confused some people. I for one am so happy I don't have to deal with the open level design. I just want to get to boss and hit boss with staff. We don't need more open world/open level games, we have enough
Recent reports are that this has been allowed to demo on PC NOT on console at all & is having trouble running on PC......
Game Science has implemented a second form for some Black Myth: Wukong's bosses, but only for those who kill them fast enough.
Thanks for your perspective, but I'm still all in for this game. Just wish NVidia was releasing the RTX 50xx series alongside this game.
7:30 the devs expect it to take 15h to beat and it costs 60 euros? Unless the game is either extremely replayable/best thing ever created that sounds like horrible value.
I'm just not seeing enough to interest me. Plus I can't be arsed with another pointlessly difficult slog for a miniscule bit of progression. I get so sense of enjoyment or "Reward" Overcoming stupidly difficult gameplay either.
Oh, Lies of P level design? Not the end of the world.
This will be an instant purchase for me.
I will never stop playing soulslike games. I will never get tired of soulslike games either. I know this isn't another soulslike but more similar to stellarblade than anything is my guess.
It's strange to me how many creative properties can't just be their own thing these days. There's this addictive compulsion to compare something to everything else.
Wish it was a little longer than 15 hours
No. It’s perfect. We don’t need it slogged down by tons of crap for padding. 15-20 hrs is ENOUGH time for a perfect game. Plus I don’t doubt that later on free dlc will come out.
@@louderthenvisual 60$ for 15 hours? nah
@@oggi3064it was said back in 2020 before the production started ofc things have changed
@@oggi3064 do you only play games one time?
I think the Sekiro comparison in this video is a bit of misnomer. Certain bosses can be made easier by upgrading tools for your arm, but that part is entirely optional.
Don’t forget. This game isn’t getting a physical release!!!! We may just have to wait till a price drop to teach them a lesson
physicals copies are gonna die in the next decade. They are already dying. Many countries done even sell physical anymore. The only company that will still survive in physical is Nintendo.
Literally what is the difference between digital and physical copies? Digital is so much more accessible and convenient rather than a physical copy. At the end of the day you’re still getting the same game
So the street are saying that this game has bonfires, you lose XP when you die, and the whole stamina system, which I don’t understand why it’s there?? Why are we limiting movements of a literal GOD??
You can't put an apple in front of me and say "This isn't a fruit" like brother I'm looking at it what are you talking about
This isnt souls levels of difficulty, but it is normal actuon game levels of difficulty - which is just fun. Nothing wrong with it. Most of us enjoyed DMC and Onimusha. Or dare I say....Bujungai (PS2). Those are just a few action combat games i think of fondly as pure stylish fun with some challeneges, but always approachable. Further from Ninja Gaiden and Souls.
The only part of it not looking like a souls like is that it will be much easier and more approachable to play
15 hours to beat? I been hearing that it's much more than that but not sure if that is true.
They've turned one of the most loved stories in Chinese folklore into run > grab > smash.. what a missed opportunity
Im glad its not a souls like game tbh 2009 Demon Souls and 2011 Dark Souls combat system is so old, it has become out dated, LET IT GO! "dodge parry, dodge parry, Attack, learn the, mobs and bosses movement", rinse and repeat .....ya ground breaking combat, let it go guys.
Skill issue
@@law8620 stop coping, I beat armored core, demon souls, dark souls, elden Ring It's not a skill issue, it's a game issue.
@@dylanbarnes9195 actually if the vast majority of people still enjoy that type of game (as evidenced by its success) then it’s a you problem bud try again lmao
@@law8620 from software drone 😊
@@dylanbarnes9195pics or didn't happen,fox boy
They shouldve took LEGOs approach and made Sean Schemmel voice Wukong 🤣
I will call Black Myth: Wukong a Soulslike the same way I call Wo Long a Soulslike, the same way I call Nioh a Soulslike, the same way I call the Remnant series Soulslike, the same way I call Thymesia a Soulslike, and the same way I call Sekiro a Soulsborne. I do not care what anyone else says. Call it what you want I'll call it what I want.
I am left feeling a little confused lots of discourse online is that it doesn't run well but i haven't noticed any problems from what i have seen
I've been playing a lot of open world games recently, so a linear game to mix it up is more than welcome
I'm expecting a sekiro like experience. I hope it delivers. Doesn't have to be identical.
I really thought it was a soulslike, I actually heard people say that. Aren't we a bit tired of soulslikes at this point ?
No since fromsoft are making some of the only actual games that aren’t interactive walking simulators
@@thetrashcanman7537 Soulslike is not just referred to fromsoftware. If it was just fromsoftware it would be better!
@@Fluffychoupikkos Lies of P wasn’t Fromsoft and yet it was a masterpiece in its own right.
@@TheAlphazoneYT Yeah I guess so, but there are way more that ain't so great. The point is not to turn every game into a soulslike, because it seems like for some people that's what they want.
Before watching this I was under the impression that this was a boss rush game
So it’s exactly what I think it is?
If you mean it won't be an Elden Ring type soulslike, then you're right
this dude is yapping. its basically like god of war with skill trees and paths like god of war
for me since its short I hope its at least pretty replayable
I hope it is soulslike as much as it can be.
It is exactly what I think, an overpowered monke beating up gods and monsters. The Kratos before Kratos.
This video saved me 60£, no way I’m paying for something that I can’t freely explore
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