Awesome BBQ Merch: teespring.com/... This video shows you how to properly season a flat top griddle before first use. Also avoid a rookie mistake that is PAINFUL!
Keep yellow mustard handy. Put it on a burn as soon as it happens and you wont blister in many cases. Obviously nothings going to fully fix a bad burn but youll be suprised on most common burns that it instantly helps.
HA! BlackstoneD. Nice Easter egg. I'm getting my used Blackstone cook top back from the sand blaster today. I'm going to use your technique to season it.
@@GrillSergeant 30 bucks at the sand blaster. The grill was a curbside cast off. The neighbor is moving and he put it out for the garbage. Besides being rusted, it only needs a new propane hose. I think I scored!
That is so LOL!! 😂😂😂!! Seeing this thing clearly reading 📖 Blackstoned”. This must be to capture our attention. That’s so darned funny 😆. All the griddles I see at my Tractor 🚜 Supply Job, read “Blackstone”, without the “D”. I work at Tractor 🚜 Supply Distribution Center, so that’s how I know the name is spelled. Please keep these humorous griddle videos coming, I want to be amused. I’m even subbing to your channel!! Your friend, Jeff.
I have owned my BlackStone griddle for 4 years now. One great piece of equipment for my outdoor kitchen. As for seasoning. I did not go through all of the cycles he is doing here. Nothing wrong with what he is doing here. I heated up my griddle the first time and put some Canola oil on it and rubbed it in. I started immediately cooking on the griddle. The more you cook on the flattop, the more seasoned it gets. So just use it and over time it will get a nice coating. Just remember after each use, after it cools and you give it a good cleaning, wipe it down with a new heavy coat of oil and cover it up. Chef Jerry
That’s awesome. I just got my hands on the ceramic coated griddle that pit boss sent me and man…you have to use little to no oil and clean up is a breeze. I just posted the few days ago. Check it out and let me know what you think about it.
I used flax seed oil, what I use for my cast irons. So far had my griddle since Christmas (thanks babe) cooked three times on it and it’s super easy to clean. I think flaxseed is the best high temperature oil for seasoning
I thought you were supposed to clean it while it was still a little hot? Like scrape it off while it's still hot and wipe it with paper towel and then oil it up
@@blakeguthrie6246as soon as I finish cooking, I scape all the junk off the griddle. I come back or you can do it then just take a paper towel and wipe it clean leaving the oil on the griddle. When you get ready to use again, heat it up, spray some water over the griddle and wipe with more paper towel. Put down new oil and cook away.
Yes Grill Sergeant! Thank you for conditioning my body and mind. Feel free to do it anytime. You are correct in how you clean and season the Blackstone. I enjoy the hell out of mine and stay hydrated all the time.
So informative!!! If we’re ever lucky enough to get our hands on one of these gorgeous Blackstones, we will be seasoning it up with your advice on mind!!! Bring on the smash burgers!!!!!🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏🤤🤤🤤🤤
On another note, when doing ANYTHING on an extremely hot surface or piece of equipment it's best to gooo slowwww. Don't coat fast, don't cut fast, don't drop fast. Dad taught me this when I was a kid and helped prevent me from getting burned or having any cooking related mishaps. Cheers!
Thanks for that I did that back in 97 at Jack in the box in the CPT lol 😁 but yes very good job I did not think it would go this far of Cleaning the flat grill from 97 to 2021 🙏👍wow very long time
I noticed when you were letting it heat up initially, some of the surface was starting to "blue". Would it be a good idea to let as much of it blue as possible before seasoning, or does it matter? I know with something like a carbon steel wok, you want to get as much of it to blue as possible before seasoning.... Does the same thing apply to these griddle surfaces, or do you risk it warping if you do that? Just curious. thank you for your video! I just got my new Blackstone and cant wait to start using it.
Lol I just seasoned my new Blackstone Air Fryer Griddle Combo a couple weeks ago and burned the heck out of my fingers too! Not quite that badly but dang that heat transfers through the cloth fast! Great safety tip and thanks for sharing. Have a great weekend brother!
I found out olive oil causes a sticky residue. Even though ppl recommend it. So i spent the extra money and got the Blackstone seasoning, cleaned griddle really good and reseasoned. No issues now.
Awesome bud!! I'm about to go and season my table top griddle. Its 9:00 am, but I'm off for two weeks, so I guess I can stay properly hydrated during the process. Lol. Thanks man. Can't wait to use this today
@@richardsmith4187 That’s the only reason I clicked the video because I was trying to figure out what knock off this was but now I know it’s just a personalized logo 😂👏🏽
Well I tried seasoning my girlfriend's griddle yesterday and it's like the middle of it done real good but the edging and about finger length from the front didn't want to change color. And I've done it outside so I'm sure the wind was slightly blowing decent and that probably had something to do with it so I don't know if I can just keep using it and it finally season itself out or what?
If you noticed at the start of seasoning he had the cloth and no gloves and a clean griddle, then he is wiping a blackened griddle with gloves on. That oil gets really hot in moments so he scorched his finger and didn't want to show that part.
If you follow the seasoning instructions provided by Blackstone your griddle will be seasoned just fine, you don’t have to buy expensive oils or put a juju spell on it, just keep it simple.
My old grill has seen it's days. Went out and bought a new grill and wouldn't you know it, I WON a 28" Blackstone Griddle ! I was thinking of selling it until I ran across a few videos about this griddle. Damn ! Wish I'd have known of this before, would have purchased this instead of the grill. We'll be taking this camping for now on too, it's very portable, use to take the grill in the back of my pickup truck where it took up WAY too much space. The grill stays home. I'm assembling it as I write this message and I will season it today and will absolutely stay hydrated !🍺
Blackstone suggests using soapy water to clean it before seasoning and cooking. However, my sister told me not to because she doesn't and she said it would ruin it. Can anybody clarify what I should do? I just bought one over the weekend and I have no idea if I should use soap or not.
Totally fine either way. I just did that to really get rid of that shipping material and residue off the griddle top before I seasoned it in. After this one I got the 4 burner Blackstone and the new Pit Boss 4 burner with the ceramic coating and that griddle is a total game changer...
@@GrillSergeant oops big foot in mouth lol. I just know that Kent answers all my questions when I call or text him. Love the RUclips community for all the help they have given me. California is not that bad, atleast you're not a foot deep in snow like we are here in Indiana.
First step, pour 3 fingers of Scotch. Next step, light a fine cigar. Last step, drink scotch and smoke cigar while admiring your beautiful new griddle!
I just picked one up today and also burnt my thumb while seasoning 😂 I didn’t feel a thing after a beer but they need to put a wear gloves warning somewhere on the box lol
I clean my griddle after each use. However, when I wipe it down with oil and a paper towel. I get black residue on the paper towel. I've tried reseaoning it but I still get the residue. It gets on the food. Hamburger buns get ruined with that black gunck on them. What do I need to do?
I love your vids! I’m not an owner yet but getting closer I think with each video! Geez you had me viewing till 1:30 am yesterday! You seem like a great guy to chill with too!
Just watched your video....... I see you have a special edition griddle....{ BLACKSTONED} ..Nice.. Where can I get one of those? Mine has BLACKSTONE on it............................................................ Just curious.....
Looks like a good way to screw up a brand new griddle. Pretty sure they tell you NOT to preheat on high due to possibility of warping it. No reason in hell to season at 500+, your just burning oil. Ya don't season your cast iron pan in the house that high and no need for a griddle either. 350-375 stays within the burn range for most oil's.
Yeah you’re not supposed to turn it up to high right away you’re supposed to turn it to medium high and let it slowly heat up to high you can warp your griddle. Also cheap canola oil from Walmart works the best for season lol.
I’ve heard that too but with a smoke point of 225 degrees for Flaxseed compared to a smoke point of 420 degrees for Grape Seed, wouldn’t the oil with the higher smoke point be better on a hot flat top griddle?
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Keep yellow mustard handy. Put it on a burn as soon as it happens and you wont blister in many cases. Obviously nothings going to fully fix a bad burn but youll be suprised on most common burns that it instantly helps.
@@miguelmarquez4192 6thtra0ee
Don’t do what?….
😂 I'm surprised no one commented on the rebranding of the griddle!
😂 Attention to detail much!?
I really had a laugh
I came here (comment section) to see if I was the only one!
I want one! Gotta find the sticker
I noticed. Now I am doing the same to my two Blackstone griddles.
Ohh i went a step further and thought it was a knock off brand and tried looking for one to see the price difference. 🫣
😂that’s hilarious 😂
I’m very happy to you take care of yourself during this process. Staying hydrated is very important to the process! Cheers! 🍻
BLACK&STONED! AWESOME! I bet most people don't even notice that your griddle says that.
Being its a Blackstoned maybe should season in hemp oil LOL just kidding great video thanks for sharing
😂 💀
Hydration is a must. Your video is the the best, straight to the point. Thank you for that.
Thanks dude! we appreciate your time for making this video
🤣🤣🤣 The "D" that you added, really funny!!!! hahaha
HA! BlackstoneD. Nice Easter egg.
I'm getting my used Blackstone cook top back from the sand blaster today. I'm going to use your technique to season it.
Ha! Thanks man! How much did it run it get the blackstone top sandblasted?
@@GrillSergeant 30 bucks at the sand blaster. The grill was a curbside cast off. The neighbor is moving and he put it out for the garbage. Besides being rusted, it only needs a new propane hose. I think I scored!
@@Hank-ski Epic score!
That is so LOL!! 😂😂😂!! Seeing this thing clearly reading 📖 Blackstoned”. This must be to capture our attention. That’s so darned funny 😆. All the griddles I see at my Tractor 🚜 Supply Job, read “Blackstone”, without the “D”. I work at Tractor 🚜 Supply Distribution Center, so that’s how I know the name is spelled. Please keep these humorous griddle videos coming, I want to be amused. I’m even subbing to your channel!! Your friend, Jeff.
Ha! Thanks Jeff!
I have owned my BlackStone griddle for 4 years now. One great piece of equipment for my outdoor kitchen. As for seasoning. I did not go through all of the cycles he is doing here. Nothing wrong with what he is doing here. I heated up my griddle the first time and put some Canola oil on it and rubbed it in. I started immediately cooking on the griddle. The more you cook on the flattop, the more seasoned it gets. So just use it and over time it will get a nice coating. Just remember after each use, after it cools and you give it a good cleaning, wipe it down with a new heavy coat of oil and cover it up. Chef Jerry
That’s awesome. I just got my hands on the ceramic coated griddle that pit boss sent me and man…you have to use little to no oil and clean up is a breeze. I just posted the few days ago. Check it out and let me know what you think about it.
I used flax seed oil, what I use for my cast irons. So far had my griddle since Christmas (thanks babe) cooked three times on it and it’s super easy to clean. I think flaxseed is the best high temperature oil for seasoning
I thought you were supposed to clean it while it was still a little hot? Like scrape it off while it's still hot and wipe it with paper towel and then oil it up
@@blakeguthrie6246as soon as I finish cooking, I scape all the junk off the griddle. I come back or you can do it then just take a paper towel and wipe it clean leaving the oil on the griddle. When you get ready to use again, heat it up, spray some water over the griddle and wipe with more paper towel. Put down new oil and cook away.
so if I didn't go a great job season when new...can I do a "reset"? Clean with soap/water and re-oil? Re-boot...if you will?
Yep. Just like shampoo. Rinse. Wash. And Repeat. 😂
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@@GrillSergeant , YES SIR....A MUST!
Yes Grill Sergeant! Thank you for conditioning my body and mind. Feel free to do it anytime.
You are correct in how you clean and season the Blackstone. I enjoy the hell out of mine and stay hydrated all the time.
So informative!!! If we’re ever lucky enough to get our hands on one of these gorgeous Blackstones, we will be seasoning it up with your advice on mind!!! Bring on the smash burgers!!!!!🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏🤤🤤🤤🤤
That mistake looked painful! I hear staying properly hydrated as you did will help with pain management.
Ha! Yeah. Second degree burns are not cool. LOL
On another note, when doing ANYTHING on an extremely hot surface or piece of equipment it's best to gooo slowwww. Don't coat fast, don't cut fast, don't drop fast. Dad taught me this when I was a kid and helped prevent me from getting burned or having any cooking related mishaps. Cheers!
Take a shot everytime he says "basically" 😁🤣😁🤣
I'm down for that party, basically
We would all be pretty much drunk. LOL
I would definitely use plain water to remove soap residue, heating it doesn't remove it.
Thanks for this video I just got myself a new 36 in culinary series with hood at Lowe's can't wait to get her seasoned
Thanks for that I did that back in 97 at Jack in the box in the CPT lol 😁 but yes very good job I did not think it would go this far of Cleaning the flat grill from 97 to 2021 🙏👍wow very long time
That's a sweet griddle you've got. I like that you basically season it like cast iron. Looking forward to seeing your cooks you make on it.
Thanks Carlton! Cheers!
I noticed when you were letting it heat up initially, some of the surface was starting to "blue". Would it be a good idea to let as much of it blue as possible before seasoning, or does it matter? I know with something like a carbon steel wok, you want to get as much of it to blue as possible before seasoning.... Does the same thing apply to these griddle surfaces, or do you risk it warping if you do that? Just curious. thank you for your video! I just got my new Blackstone and cant wait to start using it.
Lol I just seasoned my new Blackstone Air Fryer Griddle Combo a couple weeks ago and burned the heck out of my fingers too! Not quite that badly but dang that heat transfers through the cloth fast! Great safety tip and thanks for sharing. Have a great weekend brother!
GT’s Barbeque and Cuisine Dang, glad you are ok. Those things get hot quick!
When i buy mine, i will be using my welding gloves to season, as im sure the beers will be flowing while i put it together. lol
Toolmybass Smart man. Wish I did the same. Cheers! 🍻
PLEASE lose the music. Would of been a lot better video. Ty
Great video! I just put my Blackstone together yesterday and will be seasoning today! Thanks for sharing!
Really helpful, also belly laughed at the priest joke haha
Just got my grill ...thanks for showing me the right way to season it...enjoy cooking...
When he opened the beer....I subscribed.
Ha! Cheers! 🍻
I found out olive oil causes a sticky residue. Even though ppl recommend it. So i spent the extra money and got the Blackstone seasoning, cleaned griddle really good and reseasoned. No issues now.
The priest part killed me! “Wait no that’s kinda weird” 😂 💀
Awesome bud!!
I'm about to go and season my table top griddle. Its 9:00 am, but I'm off for two weeks, so I guess I can stay properly hydrated during the process. Lol.
Thanks man. Can't wait to use this today
What if you buy it new but it has some rust around the corners, how do you clean it? They marked it down at the store because of the rust.
... If it is not heavy rust- Steel wool, get it as rust free as possible and season it. JMHO
Hi....it's hard to tell....does the propane canister sit on the ground or is it elevated by a hanger....thanks.
It’s elevated by a hanger
@@GrillSergeant thanks
How many beers? I feel like it's important. Thanks for the video!
Let’s find out!
Love the BLACK&STONED logo!
Ha! :)
I was wondering if that was a knockoff or what...hes neither black...nor stoned?
And I will bet 9 out of 10 people never even noticed it LOL
@@richardsmith4187 That’s the only reason I clicked the video because I was trying to figure out what knock off this was but now I know it’s just a personalized logo 😂👏🏽
Looking through the comments I thought I was the only one that seen it for a minute. lol
I did this to my Blackstone several times over several days.
Do you have to let it cool in between coats or do you keep it on high the whole time
I would do 15 mins on high then turn it to low for 10 mins then coat it, then crack it back up to high for 15 mins and repeat that for 3-4 times.
Thanks i was curious about that myself
How do you clean after cooks?
Can you use any oil for seasoning?
Can you use crisco to season it? I usually use crisco to season my cast iron but I was sure with this
Great addition to the arsenal brother!!!
Thanks Alton! I can't wait to make some food on this bad boy!
Well I tried seasoning my girlfriend's griddle yesterday and it's like the middle of it done real good but the edging and about finger length from the front didn't want to change color. And I've done it outside so I'm sure the wind was slightly blowing decent and that probably had something to do with it so I don't know if I can just keep using it and it finally season itself out or what?
Yep. You can. Throw some bacon on first and that will cover the rest
What was the DO NOT DO THIS part ?
Just a marketing trick to get more views.
He BURNT his finger and said do not clean the grill without safety gloves lol
If you noticed at the start of seasoning he had the cloth and no gloves and a clean griddle, then he is wiping a blackened griddle with gloves on. That oil gets really hot in moments so he scorched his finger and didn't want to show that part.
If you follow the seasoning instructions provided by Blackstone your griddle will be seasoned just fine, you don’t have to buy expensive oils or put a juju spell on it, just keep it simple.
My old grill has seen it's days. Went out and bought a new grill and wouldn't you know it, I WON a 28" Blackstone Griddle ! I was thinking of selling it until I ran across a few videos about this griddle. Damn ! Wish I'd have known of this before, would have purchased this instead of the grill. We'll be taking this camping for now on too, it's very portable, use to take the grill in the back of my pickup truck where it took up WAY too much space. The grill stays home. I'm assembling it as I write this message and I will season it today and will absolutely stay hydrated !🍺
Raymond Palomino Awesome! Thanks for stopping by Raymond! See you around.
Blackstone suggests using soapy water to clean it before seasoning and cooking. However, my sister told me not to because she doesn't and she said it would ruin it. Can anybody clarify what I should do? I just bought one over the weekend and I have no idea if I should use soap or not.
I just bought me the 28” inch one but I’m not sure o want to use soap, I might just use a damp cloth to clean and wipe it. 🤷🏻♂️
Totally fine either way. I just did that to really get rid of that shipping material and residue off the griddle top before I seasoned it in. After this one I got the 4 burner Blackstone and the new Pit Boss 4 burner with the ceramic coating and that griddle is a total game changer...
Where do I get this brand? “BLACK & STONED” Gotta love it!!!
The funny thing is he wasn't black or stoned in the video LOL
Is that a Blackstone 28" or 22"??? It looks different than the Blackstone I've been looking at and I'm trying to decide which to buy.
Great tip on seasoning of a flat-top griddle thank you for sharing
Great Video! Thankyou!
Where did you get the “Blackstoned” sticker? I kinda dig it
I printed it at work :)
When you used the rag the first time what was that water then came the oil???
Blackstoned awesomeness!
I would love ❤️ to have that type of grill!!! Yes, you can cook anything on that!!! 😃
Nobody says anything about the "D" on the end? Hahahahaha Blackstoned!
HA! Good eye man! lol
Black & stoned it says. Wtf
I saw that as well, but didn't think much of it. Hahaha it's probably a boot leg from an Asian Country.
First thing I noticed ... and began trying to figure out how to do it on mine!
@@GrillSergeant It's the first thing I saw when I click on the video. I might do that with mine.
Jeez, i just got the Blackstone griddle, i want the Blackstoned one
😂
Great tips, you can't go wrong listening to Kent.
I think CJ would say otherwise :) LOL
@@GrillSergeant lmao CJ knows his foodie grill but Kent knows the flat iron griddle. Plus CJ is out in California, who listens to them 😁.
@@Dansoutdoorcooking Ha! I live about an hour away from CJ lol
@@GrillSergeant oops big foot in mouth lol. I just know that Kent answers all my questions when I call or text him. Love the RUclips community for all the help they have given me. California is not that bad, atleast you're not a foot deep in snow like we are here in Indiana.
@@Dansoutdoorcooking Don't feel bad I want to leave this state ASAP. Kent is awesome like that! The BBQ fam is awesome!
Is Blackstoned the Wish app griddle?
No. That was a sticker I put over it. The griddle I got from Home Depot and was called Nexgrill.
@@GrillSergeant I was trying to figure out which one it really is lol
wuts up with the blackstoned written on the griddle??
First step, pour 3 fingers of Scotch. Next step, light a fine cigar. Last step, drink scotch and smoke cigar while admiring your beautiful new griddle!
Ha! That works too!
Always use Black Grill Brick and veg oil and use flat steal spatula to clean off. Work in a steak house
“Blackstoned” very funny! Am I the only one who noticed it?
Great information video! Had the 36, sold it ..have the 17 love it.. great for tailgating
Awesome man! Cheers!
I just picked one up today and also burnt my thumb while seasoning 😂 I didn’t feel a thing after a beer but they need to put a wear gloves warning somewhere on the box lol
Right!! Thank you!
@@GrillSergeant or use your head and be careful....
Where can you find the Black
stoned edition ?
At your local dispensary.
@@GrillSergeant YES GRILL SERGEANT !
Jesse!!!!! Walter wants to convince you to use the griddle to cook some meth. JESSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great easy to follow vid, thanks for sharing. 🍺
I clean my griddle after each use. However, when I wipe it down with oil and a paper towel. I get black residue on the paper towel. I've tried reseaoning it but I still get the residue. It gets on the food. Hamburger buns get ruined with that black gunck on them. What do I need to do?
Brilliant you did the same thing everybody else does 🎉
So that's a blackstoned not a blackstone? What is the difference? I feel the the blackstoned would be maybe a better fit for me!
Love my camp chef flat griddle
Nice! I can't wait for the new Pit Boss ones to drop.
Do you season the underside/bottom part also?
Greg Prince Just the top and the sides.
@@GrillSergeant Thank you!
Hello, I'm looking into getting a Blackstone Griddle. What size is the one you're using?
"black & stoned" that sounds like my entire city lol
Can you use vegetable oil? Sorry I'm a newbie and I'm honestly terrified to attempt to use propane for the first time lol
You will be fine! Yes on the vegetable oil! :)
So you said soap would never touch it again so what do you do to clean it just heat it up real hot after you cook a steak on it and then wipe it off?
You can pretty much treat it like cast iron
Awesome video!! Thanks for the information! 😁👍
One guy said to season it then turn it off tried his way came out bad blackstone says to keep it on wait 15 minutes then apply another coat
When you said I love you guys except for you, that's when I decided I have to subscribe.
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I love your vids! I’m not an owner yet but getting closer I think with each video! Geez you had me viewing till 1:30 am yesterday!
You seem like a great guy to chill with too!
Ha! Welcome to the channel Bruce! That's what I love about BBQ it brings people together...cheers man!
"Do NOT do this..." ... What? Don't burn your finger when working with a hot cooktop...got it 😆
CUT THE MUSIC
If you could please lower the music by 50% it would be much more inline with other videos! Other than that, excellent work man.
great information!!! thanks for showing us the proper way to do it!!!
What was the “Do not do this” part?? With the dial circled? I watched the video waiting for that info....
Clickbait
He burned himself.
Thank you for the video! You have a new follower.
Just watched your video....... I see you have a special edition griddle....{ BLACKSTONED} ..Nice.. Where can I get one of those? Mine has BLACKSTONE on it............................................................ Just curious.....
Looks like a good way to screw up a brand new griddle. Pretty sure they tell you NOT to preheat on high due to possibility of warping it. No reason in hell to season at 500+, your just burning oil. Ya don't season your cast iron pan in the house that high and no need for a griddle either. 350-375 stays within the burn range for most oil's.
The documentation with the griddles, their website, and the videos on their RUclips channel all say turn the burners all the way up to high.
Yeah you’re not supposed to turn it up to high right away you’re supposed to turn it to medium high and let it slowly heat up to high you can warp your griddle. Also cheap canola oil from Walmart works the best for season lol.
ok fam you just put me onto my next purchase i think this will be christmas gift to uhmmm myself lol
flax seed oil can withstand high heat and is recommended for seasoning grill tops
I’ve heard that too but with a smoke point of 225 degrees for Flaxseed compared to a smoke point of 420 degrees for Grape Seed, wouldn’t the oil with the higher smoke point be better on a hot flat top griddle?
I used flax seed oil an now my griddle is sticky! Now what?
I used corn oil and it worked fine . Just use it often.
@@josmith3118 you put to much on. burn it off and start over. only use a light coat and wipe off all excess. then heat up until it starts to smoke.
What is the DO NOT part of the video as described in the title?
When did it become ‘Blackstoned’??
This is a great video on what TO do, but you didn’t mention what NOT to do. And what’s with the circle and arrow on the knob in the thumbnail?
Don't turn on the dial and burn your finger.
Sweet. Job!
You didn't rinse the dish soap off before you seasoned it?
Wiping soap of with a dry cloth???? I have seasoned 4 Blackstones. I have always rinsed the soap off with water
Is it black stone or black stoned?
Don't you want to rinse soap residue off first ??
Music drowns you out a bit while you're talking. But great video, very helpful!
How many times are you going to say basically?