@@TheCarCareNut Thanks a lot, very nice tips and clear. I got AISIN brake pads for my Corolla Hybrid 2015 wagon and it was made in Italy. It is said made for Corolla wagon and RAV4. I thought it will be the same as Advics (Aisin subsidiary) original Toyota pads but I was wrong. They are almost identic but not the same, it is probably semi-metalic too and R90 certified. Do you think all Aisin parts are actually OEM of Toyota? I know that all Toyota transmission are made by Aisin. The price of Toyota OEM pads 04465-42180 is €191 in Europe and $104 in USA, compared to Aisin €30. Besides that, the original Advics brake disc is not painted/coated. I bought Zimmermann Brake Disc for 1/2 price (€35) instead of €80 for Advics disc. Is there any reasons why Toyota parts is so expensive in Europe compared to USA? I think this is the main reasons Toyota is not as popular yet in Europe.
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks, I noticed the Toyota parts are identical with Aisin waterpump and Advics pads, Denso evaporator, compressor, etc. but only when I was in USA. I found AISIN sell coolant with blue colors called Ultra Longlife coolant, and ATF6+ that specified for WS, DexronVI, Mercon V, Honda, some ZF transmission etc. It makes me think that actually Dexron VI and other ATF are indeed compatible
This is a great video for DIY'ERS and even experienced mechanics to view and benefit from. One additional suggestion would be if you believe you had a warped rotor causing pulsation when you braked. Put the new rotor on and check it to verify it is true with a gauge. If it's not true, then perhaps it is the wheel hub that is not true and it will continue to cause pulsation even with a new rotor. The hub may just need to be cleaned up or lightly filed smooth. You can probably use a loaner Disc and brake/ball joint gauge from the auto parts store. Otherwise they are about $45 online if you shop around. Worst case scenario would be having to replace wheel hub.
When i first did brakes i looked at a video that was shaky and blurry... about 10 yrs ago. This one is so much better! clear and concise and still learned a thing here, unfortunately for me...those original shims are LONG GONE lol... Learn to do you own brakes have been the best thing I learned so far. guarantee to save you money year after year.
Thank you car nut guy you save me a transmission on my 2010 4runner after watching one of your videos I decided to check my transmission low and behold I had to add two and a half quarters of fluid in my transmission, thanks again and keep up the good work
The Car Care Nut I used Lubegard Dr. tranny Instant shudder fix and it fixed the vibration for now. I have a feeling that these kind of additives are temporary solution. What do you think?
I have a Subaru and do the same. The grease I use is recommended. Molykote. Excellent and long lasting. Silicone burns out quickly. The Toyota grease you’re using is probably Molykote AS880N. Pin lube is another type. I use Molykote caliper pin grease. Thanks
Would it be the same for the Prius?? I heard many say to unplug the battery because the caliper will close and can end up getting your fingers crossed. Also. Bleeding the break fluid on a Prius can harm the system if is not don’t properly?? Thank you
Hello Paul regarding hybrid brakes I will follow up with another video on that. However I will say that hybrid brakes should be serviced with the car off. And bleeding is a bit complicated and should be done with a scan tool.
Details are everything. Kind of hard to understand all the points you made, but I realize doing all these things makes the difference between a sloppy job that won't last long and a proper job.
Great content as usual. I will put in my findings as well. I had a 02 camry 5spd i bought with 80k miles. Needed brakes. They were factory. I resurfaced the rotor and bought the economy pads from the dealer (i was ignorant and thought it was factory at the time). That said i sold that car at 160k. Brakes were at ~15%. If you never told me the difference between white and red box id never know. Very happy with the ‘economy’ pads.
11:30 You put the wear indicator in on the same side and at the back/towards the piston to get the squeaky warning sound when you reverse the car, or else it will be noisy going forward, which means annoying you throughout your trip.
I just changed the brakes on our 2017 Rav4 and boy it was super annoying to get the pads on. I used Akebono brakes. The fitment was really tight and I had to do as you suggested, I had to put the pads on the caliper braket before installing them on the knuckle. The brakes on my Acura are easier to change.
At 1:46 the claim is made that you don't need new grease on the caliper pins. I totally disagree; despite the old grease being sealed by the boots, it does collect debris from the pins and the sleeve (the part into which the pins are inserted) due to normal friction. Also the grease is less effective due to thermal breakdown. I would thoroughly clean the pins and the sleeve and apply new silicone grease every time new pads are installed.
I second this comment, and because we are car care nuts I recommend inspecting the pins every spring while you are taking off your winter tires. It's not so much an extension of brake life, but more of a quality of operation assurance measure. In Northern Canada we have a lot of water, slush, sand and salt on our roads at winter time, and you might be suprised what can get past those boots. I'm even going to the extent of ordering new pins and boots pre-emptively before a brake job just in case there is wear on the pins, or the boots have lost their elasticity or swollen from previous incorrect greasing. Now that I think of it, it's probably a good idea to check pad movement because the corrosion between shim and bracket is always tightening the clearances for those pads to slide freely. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to re-apply grease to the shims and pad ears at this time... this is what I do. I just appreciate the smooth operation and modulation experience. I suspect stopping distance is affected by regular caliper service, but don't have the measurements to back this up :)
Worth mentioning that you should be careful to avoid the grease reaching the actual pad material that comes in contact with the rotor. I always have some brake cleaner and paper towels nearby to clean my hands during pad install
I was under the assumption we should use copper based anti seize for the the pad ears/fit kit locations and not silicon grease. (not the pins). What do you think?
Really enjoy your videos. I did have a question about the front brake pad anti rattle clips. I have a 2013 Toyota Rav4 Limited. Replacing the front pads there are two clips that go into the caliper holder for each pad. In the package with the new pads there were 4 left clips and 4 right clips. Where do each of these go? What is the trick on this? Sorry, I probably should have noticed how the old ones were oriented, but didn’t count on this problem.
Thank you for watching my videos! I try to keep a positive attitude at work but I admit there are moments that things go south and it becomes hard to stay positive but that is rare and I usually keep my cool it actually makes working on cars go better.
I'm gonna stop by at your shop soon. I love all your videos. The first video I watched was the 2018 to 2020 review you did on camry. That really assist me in choosing which camry to go for. Be expecting me soon.
Hi AMD, do you have a recommended interval for doing a full brake service? And what would you recommend we do for the full brake service? Lastly, do we need to retorque lug nuts at certain interval? Congrats again on your new business!
Most mechanics will not take the time to clean calipers and other parts as well as apply grease where needed. They also don't seem to think that a brake fluid flush is ever needed. When would you recommend that calipers should be replaced with aftermarket painted calipers? I did the 5th gen brake upgrade on my 2005 4RUNNER Limited and the results were great.
Great video! In looking on some documentation for my 2017 Rav4, it shows a #1 AND a #2 anti squeal shim. I take I need both. Do I put grease between the pad and #1 and between the two shims? Can the grease be any high temperature brake grease? Thanks for the excellent videos.
I am sorry. You did show how to install the wear clips in this video, but my 2004 Toyota Solara wear clips are made different. Can you please tell me how to install them. also, do they go at the top or bottom of the brake pads on a Solara?
Great video. thank you for the detailed steps. I read that you don't apply any grease to the fittings that the brake pads slide on, since they attract dust and gunk up. Is this actually done by the factory when they install? Will just cleaning them well be enough OR Do you recommend that be done for sure. thanks
I need you to tell me how to install the Rear Brake Pad Wear Clips, or squelers that come with the 2004-Toyota Solara Rear Brake Pads. Please do a video on this problem that many people that do their own brakes are trying to figure out. You did not install them in this video.
Hello and thanks so much for all your video’s! I have a 2018 4 runner limited 4 wheel drive. It eats brakes bad! Please help with any ideas. Some people say change over to a extreme duty towing pads?
I found my answer! My 2007 Tacoma makes "pad shift" noise. When pressing the brake it makes clink sound. Do I need to replace the pads and the clips or the entire caliper? Thanks.
I've never seen a brake video in which they used silicon grease for the fitting kit/back of pad (on shim). Usually it's either copper anti-seize or that black grease (you used on inner shim). Does it make a difference? (I've always used copper anti-seize in my past cars)
@@TheCarCareNut Okay. The independent mechanic I sometimes visit is very trustworthy, but never uses OEM parts lol. Thanks for showing us the difference in OEM quality!
Can you please elaborate on where Toyota says the caliper sliding pins go? (One has the rubber bushing, one doesn’t). Opinions on the internet are all over the place on this subject!
Watch as much of your stuff as possible. I think more overhead view, with more close-ups would have been better. The angle was hiding some of what you were doing. You inspire me to work on my Toyota. Shalom
Phenomenal channel, and great video. Curious, I’ve got a bit of squeal on my original pads/rotors on my 4Runner w/ 74k miles. Several mm left on the pads so no need to replace. Would it be worth it just to disassemble, clean them up, and freshen up the grease, to make them quiet again and get maximum life?
Hi i noticed alot of vehicles have only one anti rattle spring (M) at the bottom only. Should i get at the top as well?. Also i noticed for the gx460 there is no fitting kit Thanks
Thank you I am learning so much from you now I see fitting kit .Another question I bought AC Delco ceramic brake pads advantage and coated brake rotors AC Delco advantage is there anything I'm missing .
Is the lower grease pin suppose to have a rubber seal at the end? I removed mine and found the lower was a bit shorter also. I ask wondering how to reinstall when the small seal just slips out of place. The brakes were aftermarket and I'm now in question if pins were mixed up. Unfortunately, the calipers need replacing too after seeing the condition of the rubber boots around the cylinders. Your vid addressed the top pin only.
Hi! The pin with the rubber seal you can just install the seal back on it. If the seal is swollen or worn you can get it separately from the pin from the dealership for a few bucks. That seal is there so the caliper won’t rattle. I wouldn’t worry about the location of the pin with the seal. I’ve seen them mixed without problems.
Really like your videos man! Question.. Was there a small clear packet of white lithium grease included in the shims kit bag? Mine had it but no directions to where to apply it. Im doing front brakes on a 2009 Camry if that matters. Maybe there is a Technical service bulletin that requires this white sticky grease?
I think this grease goes in between the pad and the pad shim like he had in the video. I reckon it's just a different color. I'm not a mechanic, but I had the same grease in the Shim kit and that's where mine went.
Im confused as to why you would use a grinder or a file when a wire brush or small wire wheel is more than sufficient to do the job and not worry about ruining the surface to put the fitting kit for the pads. Then again I've never worked on a car from the rust belt. Great video as always though!
I tried doing brake replacement recently and one of the caliper slide pins is stuck. I can get it to rotate somewhat using a socket and ratchet but cannot slide it out like the others. Any suggestions?
I replaced my sienna front pads, following your detailed instructions. used originals pads from dealer. Now my pedal feels mushy.spongy. It was hard as a rock before and sensitive (car stopped with little effort) All the cars that i’ve ever replaced brakes on, end up like this. What am I doing wrong?
There’s some acceptable pad shift from the factory. I wouldn’t attempt to tighten the pads or force something to hold them as that will cause brake drag
Some thing new i learn here, putting some thin layer of grease at back of the pads and shift pad. I sent my car for brake service last week at SC because having noise. They only greasing the fitting kit but not on back pad. The noise is still there. I'll going back to them to do pad greasing. Thanks for sharing.
Hey AMD. I have a 2017 RAV4. Factory pads do not have the anti rattle spring hole(which you demonstrated in the next video how to install the spring pin into the pad). Does my car need this hole?
@11:51, you mentioned the pad needs to be moving freely, do you ever put greases on that area to help them move back and forth? If so what kind of grease? Thanks in advance.
@@TheCarCareNut I noticed that there was rust (dust) on the caliper bracket. That part usually is made of cast iron which rusts a lot. At our shop we rarely see rust between the brake pad ears and the shim kit (steel and Stainless steel respectively). Consequently we only put grease between the fit kit shims and the caliper bracket where the rust occurs and causes a condition called rust jacking that requires hammering the pads out of the caliper as you mentioned in the video..
For what it’s worth my Honda has the same arrangement and it does matter. Go check the brake schematics on the Toyota parts website and you will see which one goes where. Good luck. I’m still learning but the schematics help a lot.
Hi CCN-While replacing the brake pads and Rotors on my 07 Rav4 V6 limited, I noticed the passenger front Stabilizer link for the strut and sway bar has a cracked bushing. I will have one tomorrow from the dealership. Do you have torque specs for the bolts? Also, my rubber grommet on my brake caliper slider pin has swelled. Dealer says they don't sell them individually. Any risk with not using the rubber piece? Gonna use some 3m silicone on the pins but wish I could find the rubber piece for the pin
Hi! The rubber piece for the pin should come separate from the pad holder. I don’t have access to the system right now for torque specs. Try to leave a comment tomorrow and I’ll dig it up for you.
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks for the reply CCN. One of the RAv4 forum posters states it is 55 foot pounds for the stabilizer link bolts for top and bottom. Can you verify this as correct for my 07 V6 limited? Thanks CCN-U are one of if not the best RUclips channels for Toyota help!!!
Hey AMD, stoked about the shop, gonna be AWESOME! At my dealership, if I ask, will they transfer my original shims over to my new pads or look at me funny and recommend I buy new ones? Also, can I ask them to use the Toyota grease or is that a common practice?
So technically they don’t. But I’ve seen cases of pads separating from the backing or cracking after they’ve been on the car for a long time. Brakes should be inspected regularly as part of the cars maintenance inspections. When the technician sees that I would then replace them. Otherwise nothing to worry about.
Over my years of working on cars, I learned only OEM parts for all repairs, unless you are working on an older car where original parts are no longer available.
Great video! I have an ‘06 GX470, would you recommend always changing the rotors out with the pads? Or should i resurface? I just got my rear rotors/pads replaced by a shop with aftermarket. Is there a way to see if I have factory shims retained without taking the wheel off? Thanks. Mark
If you don't replace the rotors, you might just install new pads without resurfacing the rotors and losing some thickness as long as your pads still had a good amount left on them. If you wait until the pads are almost completely worn out, the rotors would have been ruined. Replacing the pads and keeping the rotors might be OK on smaller sedans but somewhat dangerous on a heavy SUV. On my 2005 4Runner, I did the 5th gen brake upgrade last year and it is so much better. Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/UdGkvUs2eMFKq5jp7 Toyota 4Runner Upgrading 4th Gen to 5th Gen Brakes and Caliper ruclips.net/video/5euQp5ViMAk/видео.html ________ Do the 5th gen upgrade here: www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/249328-5th-gen-4runner-brakes-upgrade-4th-gen-4runner.html Also, read through the whole thread. You want 4th gen rotors with 5th gen calipers in the rear. Lastly, get Napa remans with a lifetime warranty. One of the better caliper options, and when they seize its a simple swap at your local Napa. ----- Parts from Rock Auto and Advance Auto: Front: painted 5th gen (2010, do not use 2016 model year) calipers, painted 2010 rotors, 2010 ceramic pads. Rear: painted 5th gen (2010) rotors, painted 4th gen rotors, semi-metallic brake pads. Plenty of dot 3 brake fluid to flush the system. You want 4th gen rotors and pads with 5th gen calipers in the rear. RockAuto Order Confirmation Order Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:11 AM Central Time Part Number Part Type Price EA Core EA Quantity Total No Vehicle Specified AKEBONO ACT976 Brake Pad $ 40.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 40.79 POWER STOP S6278 Caliper $ 83.79 $ 48.00 2 $ 263.58 2010 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4.0L V6 RAYBESTOS 980784 Rotor $ 58.79 $ 0.00 2 $ 117.58 Shipping Ground $ 50.87 Tax $ 29.56 Order Total $ 502.38 When the last item on your order ships, we will send an email listing tracking numbers for all the items on the order. To CHECK ORDER STATUS, MAKE CHANGES, ARRANGE A RETURN (including Cores) or REPORT A PROBLEM visit www.rockauto.com/orderstatus Please print this page as your receipt. Core Return for calipers: $96 shipping Total cost: $502.38 - $96 = $406.38 Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/myyWB6NNEoxKaqni9 ____ I also bought the rear calipers from Rock Auto. You might be able to find kits on eBay that are cheaper. Rock Auto Rear Power Stop Brake Calipers Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/UdGkvUs2eMFKq5jp7 5-7-2020 Costco - tire balancing - 5/7/2020 Tires: 34 psi (measured warm) Odometer: 85,800 miles Car seems to drive better with balanced tires. photos.app.goo.gl/2E8D9hh9EdrEA3cX7 5-4-2020 Odometer: 85,822 miles Tires rotated - front criss-crossed to the back; back tires straight forward Front brakes - parts from Rock Auto - 5th gen painted calipers, Raybestos painted rotors, Akebono pads - $500 labor $220 Rear brakes - parts from Advance Auto plus labor - $300 Parts from Advance Auto: Carquest Wearever Gold Ceramic Brake Pads - Rear (4-Pad Set) GNAD606: Advance Auto Parts shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-wearever-gold-ceramic-brake-pads-rear-4-pad-set-gnad606/10151943-P? $35.99 ____ CARQUEST Platinum Painted Brake Rotor - Rear YH145330P: Advance Auto Parts - $66.99 shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-platinum-painted-brake-rotor-rear-yh145330p/11395623-P? photos.app.goo.gl/3h8YQ3gjc43NqNTu5 My REAR brakes were completely worn out. I really noticed that just driving to the mechanic at Peterson and California (Citgo). Finishing up now. Front labor: $220 Rear new pads and rotors with labor: $300 Advance Auto - Carquest Platinum Painted Rotor; Carquest - Wearever Gold Premium Brake Pads
Question if I go to my Toyota dealer would they be able to apply grease on my breaks my car is fairly new and is under any warranty they provide. Breaks just started making some noise I figured it was lack of grease.
Found the big difference in the “0e” pads and the “AZ” pads toyota sells. The after market equivelent “az” pads dont have f&$@n holes for the anti squeal v springs
According to Toyota, do not let grease go into the holes on the pads. The box should have an illustration of where to apply the grease. Video: ruclips.net/video/cy4PLb8Y7BU/видео.html
Hi! This video is for an old value line of pads as shown in the video. These pads are actually discontinued because they’re horrible. Replaced with different ones that use the oem shims and don’t come with shims.
Either version doesn’t come with pads. There’s the factory ones which are semi metallic and more expensive. Then there’s the ceramic value ones which are cheaper. The value ones will have the letters AZ in their part number
Hi, How are you? Can you give me the front and back brake pads parts No. , kits and Shim Parts No. for my Toyota Rav4 2017 XLE Hybrid car. Thank you and have good night....
I had to stop the video where he applied grease to the shim. Well, i pretty sure many of you diy here watches ton of video how to do brake but most of them applied grease on the outter side of the shim. As he explain why it make sense and i dont see grease anywhere with oem.
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@@TheCarCareNut Thanks a lot, very nice tips and clear. I got AISIN brake pads for my Corolla Hybrid 2015 wagon and it was made in Italy. It is said made for Corolla wagon and RAV4. I thought it will be the same as Advics (Aisin subsidiary) original Toyota pads but I was wrong. They are almost identic but not the same, it is probably semi-metalic too and R90 certified. Do you think all Aisin parts are actually OEM of Toyota? I know that all Toyota transmission are made by Aisin. The price of Toyota OEM pads 04465-42180 is €191 in Europe and $104 in USA, compared to Aisin €30. Besides that, the original Advics brake disc is not painted/coated. I bought Zimmermann Brake Disc for 1/2 price (€35) instead of €80 for Advics disc. Is there any reasons why Toyota parts is so expensive in Europe compared to USA? I think this is the main reasons Toyota is not as popular yet in Europe.
Aisin and denso are oem suppliers for toyoya
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks, I noticed the Toyota parts are identical with Aisin waterpump and Advics pads, Denso evaporator, compressor, etc. but only when I was in USA. I found AISIN sell coolant with blue colors called Ultra Longlife coolant, and ATF6+ that specified for WS, DexronVI, Mercon V, Honda, some ZF transmission etc. It makes me think that actually Dexron VI and other ATF are indeed compatible
Thank you very much for your efforts, you are one of best toyota technicians i've ever watched.
This is a great video for DIY'ERS and even experienced mechanics to view and benefit from. One additional suggestion would be if you believe you had a warped rotor causing pulsation when you braked. Put the new rotor on and check it to verify it is true with a gauge. If it's not true, then perhaps it is the wheel hub that is not true and it will continue to cause pulsation even with a new rotor. The hub may just need to be cleaned up or lightly filed smooth. You can probably use a loaner Disc and brake/ball joint gauge from the auto parts store. Otherwise they are about $45 online if you shop around. Worst case scenario would be having to replace wheel hub.
This is the best illustration on automotive videos. Why not have a section on diagnostics and trouble shooting that will be educational and helpful.
When i first did brakes i looked at a video that was shaky and blurry... about 10 yrs ago. This one is so much better! clear and concise and still learned a thing here, unfortunately for me...those original shims are LONG GONE lol... Learn to do you own brakes have been the best thing I learned so far. guarantee to save you money year after year.
Thank you car nut guy you save me a transmission on my 2010 4runner after watching one of your videos I decided to check my transmission low and behold I had to add two and a half quarters of fluid in my transmission, thanks again and keep up the good work
Why is it low?
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That guy is so LUCKY, a honest professional Toyota machanic is replacing his brakes. He will have a great job performed on his car.
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Thanks for picking up the common maintenance topics.
Avtar Nanrey thank you Avtar! Hows your FJ doing?
The Car Care Nut I used Lubegard Dr. tranny Instant shudder fix and it fixed the vibration for now. I have a feeling that these kind of additives are temporary solution. What do you think?
Hard to tell Avtar. I suppose time will tell. I hope it’s permanent though! Keep me posted.
I have a Subaru and do the same. The grease I use is recommended. Molykote. Excellent and long lasting. Silicone burns out quickly. The Toyota grease you’re using is probably Molykote AS880N. Pin lube is another type. I use Molykote caliper pin grease. Thanks
Find part 3 here ruclips.net/video/qBLqqt0TT7o/видео.html
Would it be the same for the Prius?? I heard many say to unplug the battery because the caliper will close and can end up getting your fingers crossed. Also. Bleeding the break fluid on a Prius can harm the system if is not don’t properly?? Thank you
Hello Paul regarding hybrid brakes I will follow up with another video on that. However I will say that hybrid brakes should be serviced with the car off. And bleeding is a bit complicated and should be done with a scan tool.
Details are everything. Kind of hard to understand all the points you made, but I realize doing all these things makes the difference between a sloppy job that won't last long and a proper job.
Great content as usual. I will put in my findings as well. I had a 02 camry 5spd i bought with 80k miles. Needed brakes. They were factory. I resurfaced the rotor and bought the economy pads from the dealer (i was ignorant and thought it was factory at the time). That said i sold that car at 160k. Brakes were at ~15%. If you never told me the difference between white and red box id never know. Very happy with the ‘economy’ pads.
11:30 You put the wear indicator in on the same side and at the back/towards the piston to get the squeaky warning sound when you reverse the car, or else it will be noisy going forward, which means annoying you throughout your trip.
I just changed the brakes on our 2017 Rav4 and boy it was super annoying to get the pads on. I used Akebono brakes. The fitment was really tight and I had to do as you suggested, I had to put the pads on the caliper braket before installing them on the knuckle. The brakes on my Acura are easier to change.
At 1:46 the claim is made that you don't need new grease on the caliper pins. I totally disagree; despite the old grease being sealed by the boots, it does collect debris from the pins and the sleeve (the part into which the pins are inserted) due to normal friction. Also the grease is less effective due to thermal breakdown. I would thoroughly clean the pins and the sleeve and apply new silicone grease every time new pads are installed.
I second this comment, and because we are car care nuts I recommend inspecting the pins every spring while you are taking off your winter tires. It's not so much an extension of brake life, but more of a quality of operation assurance measure.
In Northern Canada we have a lot of water, slush, sand and salt on our roads at winter time, and you might be suprised what can get past those boots.
I'm even going to the extent of ordering new pins and boots pre-emptively before a brake job just in case there is wear on the pins, or the boots have lost their elasticity or swollen from previous incorrect greasing.
Now that I think of it, it's probably a good idea to check pad movement because the corrosion between shim and bracket is always tightening the clearances for those pads to slide freely. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to re-apply grease to the shims and pad ears at this time... this is what I do. I just appreciate the smooth operation and modulation experience.
I suspect stopping distance is affected by regular caliper service, but don't have the measurements to back this up :)
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Worth mentioning that you should be careful to avoid the grease reaching the actual pad material that comes in contact with the rotor. I always have some brake cleaner and paper towels nearby to clean my hands during pad install
I was under the assumption we should use copper based anti seize for the the pad ears/fit kit locations and not silicon grease. (not the pins). What do you think?
@@pgreenx if it's dedicated grease for the job then i think it's not that important what's the composition
@@ripptorr ok thanks.
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Really enjoy your videos. I did have a question about the front brake pad anti rattle clips. I have a 2013 Toyota Rav4 Limited. Replacing the front pads there are two clips that go into the caliper holder for each pad. In the package with the new pads there were 4 left clips and 4 right clips. Where do each of these go? What is the trick on this? Sorry, I probably should have noticed how the old ones were oriented, but didn’t count on this problem.
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Love your videos... I wonder if you have the same pleasant attitude when your working?
Thank you for watching my videos! I try to keep a positive attitude at work but I admit there are moments that things go south and it becomes hard to stay positive but that is rare and I usually keep my cool it actually makes working on cars go better.
I'm gonna stop by at your shop soon. I love all your videos. The first video I watched was the 2018 to 2020 review you did on camry. That really assist me in choosing which camry to go for. Be expecting me soon.
Well done.
Thanks for your help. Dothe Toyota genuine pads come with fitting kits?? I thought they do
Hi AMD, do you have a recommended interval for doing a full brake service? And what would you recommend we do for the full brake service? Lastly, do we need to retorque lug nuts at certain interval? Congrats again on your new business!
I always buy Genuine Toyota or Advics brake pads and never have any issues!!!
Good to hear!!! It was between akebono pads and toyota oem. I ordered toyota oem pads
Most mechanics will not take the time to clean calipers and other parts as well as apply grease where needed. They also don't seem to think that a brake fluid flush is ever needed.
When would you recommend that calipers should be replaced with aftermarket painted calipers?
I did the 5th gen brake upgrade on my 2005 4RUNNER Limited and the results were great.
Hi! I don’t recommend replacement if it’s working well
Great video! In looking on some documentation for my 2017 Rav4, it shows a #1 AND a #2 anti squeal shim. I take I need both. Do I put grease between the pad and #1 and between the two shims? Can the grease be any high temperature brake grease? Thanks for the excellent videos.
I’m always watch your videos
I am sorry. You did show how to install the wear clips in this video, but my 2004 Toyota Solara wear clips are made different. Can you please tell me how to install them. also, do they go at the top or bottom of the brake pads on a Solara?
Great video. thank you for the detailed steps. I read that you don't apply any grease to the fittings that the brake pads slide on, since they attract dust and gunk up. Is this actually done by the factory when they install? Will just cleaning them well be enough OR Do you recommend that be done for sure. thanks
I always clean the glide pins, and use silicone base grease.
Awesome set of videos! Thanks!
I need you to tell me how to install the Rear Brake Pad Wear Clips, or squelers that come with the 2004-Toyota Solara Rear Brake Pads. Please do a video on this problem that many people that do their own brakes are trying to figure out. You did not install them in this video.
Yes Sir, the new format is fine!
And all I have to say is everyone is very informative
Hello and thanks so much for all your video’s! I have a 2018 4 runner limited 4 wheel drive. It eats brakes bad! Please help with any ideas. Some people say change over to a extreme duty towing pads?
I found my answer! My 2007 Tacoma makes "pad shift" noise. When pressing the brake it makes clink sound. Do I need to replace the pads and the clips or the entire caliper? Thanks.
Hello Amd, What would be the grease you would recommend for caliper pins ? Is it Toyota red rubber grease? Thank you.
I got Akebono pads and centric rotors for my 11 Corolla jtd❤. Is that good ?
Any video on hot to install anti rattle kit?
I've never seen a brake video in which they used silicon grease for the fitting kit/back of pad (on shim). Usually it's either copper anti-seize or that black grease (you used on inner shim). Does it make a difference?
(I've always used copper anti-seize in my past cars)
Love this series. Does Toyota still gets pads from Akebono company in Japan? Thanks.
Some Toyota pads are made by advics. I haven’t seen ones made by akebono
@@TheCarCareNut Okay. The independent mechanic I sometimes visit is very trustworthy, but never uses OEM parts lol. Thanks for showing us the difference in OEM quality!
Excellent video
Can you please elaborate on where Toyota says the caliper sliding pins go? (One has the rubber bushing, one doesn’t). Opinions on the internet are all over the place on this subject!
would it be ok if i use permatex copper anti seize instead for all grease applications including the pins?
Hi! As long as it’s high temp approved it should be good
Watch as much of your stuff as possible.
I think more overhead view, with more close-ups would have been better. The angle was hiding some of what you were doing. You inspire me to work on my Toyota. Shalom
Phenomenal channel, and great video. Curious, I’ve got a bit of squeal on my original pads/rotors on my 4Runner w/ 74k miles. Several mm left on the pads so no need to replace. Would it be worth it just to disassemble, clean them up, and freshen up the grease, to make them quiet again and get maximum life?
Thank you for watching! If you’re doing the work yourself and not paying labor then it’s definitely worth it
So that is why they squeal in the morning or after being parked for some time?
Hi , if you don’t put the wear indicator in, does the brake make a “ click “ sound when the car moves between back and forward ? Thanks.
Hi i noticed alot of vehicles have only one anti rattle spring (M) at the bottom only. Should i get at the top as well?. Also i noticed for the gx460 there is no fitting kit
Thanks
Nice job and video
Thank you I am learning so much from you now I see fitting kit .Another question I bought AC Delco ceramic brake pads advantage and coated brake rotors AC Delco advantage is there anything I'm missing .
I’d say you got everything you need. Perhaps brake grease?
Is the lower grease pin suppose to have a rubber seal at the end? I removed mine and found the lower was a bit shorter also. I ask wondering how to reinstall when the small seal just slips out of place. The brakes were aftermarket and I'm now in question if pins were mixed up. Unfortunately, the calipers need replacing too after seeing the condition of the rubber boots around the cylinders. Your vid addressed the top pin only.
Hi! The pin with the rubber seal you can just install the seal back on it. If the seal is swollen or worn you can get it separately from the pin from the dealership for a few bucks. That seal is there so the caliper won’t rattle. I wouldn’t worry about the location of the pin with the seal. I’ve seen them mixed without problems.
Is there any difference in caliper grease vs the small packets of grace with the shim kits?
Can you use one type of grease for entire job?
So if I were gonna get a battery-operated ratchet/drill, what kinda power/torque rating should I be looking for on it?
When you buy a kit online do you need two order of these or the one quantity is good enough for the two front rotors?
@ 7:14 you show the pins and said you will show where they go. This was not covered in the video. Could you please explain? Thanks
I always enjoy your video Thank you
Really like your videos man! Question.. Was there a small clear packet of white lithium grease included in the shims kit bag? Mine had it but no directions to where to apply it. Im doing front brakes on a 2009 Camry if that matters. Maybe there is a Technical service bulletin that requires this white sticky grease?
I think this grease goes in between the pad and the pad shim like he had in the video. I reckon it's just a different color. I'm not a mechanic, but I had the same grease in the Shim kit and that's where mine went.
Im confused as to why you would use a grinder or a file when a wire brush or small wire wheel is more than sufficient to do the job and not worry about ruining the surface to put the fitting kit for the pads. Then again I've never worked on a car from the rust belt.
Great video as always though!
IYO, how long before you need to have your breaks lubed ??? I have a 2019 Rav4 with 12500km or 7500miles.
Hi! If you live in an area with salt use in the winter it wouldn’t hurt to clean and check them every year or two
I tried doing brake replacement recently and one of the caliper slide pins is stuck. I can get it to rotate somewhat using a socket and ratchet but cannot slide it out like the others.
Any suggestions?
I replaced my sienna front pads, following your detailed instructions. used originals pads from dealer. Now my pedal feels mushy.spongy. It was hard as a rock before and sensitive (car stopped with little effort)
All the cars that i’ve ever replaced brakes on, end up like this. What am I doing wrong?
Let me know if you figure this out!
Can you use copper anti seize? For the lubrication on the fitting kit?
Hi! You can
@@TheCarCareNut thank you!
Such a good video. Love it.
How do you fix the clunking noise from the pad shifting when you put the gear from drive to reverse?
There’s some acceptable pad shift from the factory. I wouldn’t attempt to tighten the pads or force something to hold them as that will cause brake drag
The Car Care Nut What do you tell the customers when they complain? It’s normal?
I don’t tell them it’s normal until I bring a brand new car and show them that it does the same so they don’t feel like I’m ignoring their concern.
The Car Care Nut
Thank you, sir. I love your videos. I used to be a Toyota tech also 18 years ago but now I work at the Pre-delivery shop.
Some thing new i learn here, putting some thin layer of grease at back of the pads and shift pad.
I sent my car for brake service last week at SC because having noise. They only greasing the fitting kit but not on back pad. The noise is still there. I'll going back to them to do pad greasing. Thanks for sharing.
Hey AMD. I have a 2017 RAV4. Factory pads do not have the anti rattle spring hole(which you demonstrated in the next video how to install the spring pin into the pad). Does my car need this hole?
Does it matter if the wear indicator goes on top or bottom?
That has varied from model to model but we’ve put them both ways and didn’t seem to make a difference.
What type of grease? Would alluminum paste or ceramic paste do? 🤔
I guess you didn’t bend any caliper abutment clips - you just clip them in with the clips in the middle of the clips- nice video sir
@11:51, you mentioned the pad needs to be moving freely, do you ever put greases on that area to help them move back and forth? If so what kind of grease? Thanks in advance.
Hi! Yes I do put grease there. Any silicone high temp grease will work
@@TheCarCareNut I noticed that there was rust (dust) on the caliper bracket. That part usually is made of cast iron which rusts a lot. At our shop we rarely see rust between the brake pad ears and the shim kit (steel and Stainless steel respectively). Consequently we only put grease between the fit kit shims and the caliper bracket where the rust occurs and causes a condition called rust jacking that requires hammering the pads out of the caliper as you mentioned in the video..
One of my sliding pins has a bushing, does it matter if it's on top or bottom?
For what it’s worth my Honda has the same arrangement and it does matter. Go check the brake schematics on the Toyota parts website and you will see which one goes where. Good luck. I’m still learning but the schematics help a lot.
Hi CCN-While replacing the brake pads and Rotors on my 07 Rav4 V6 limited, I noticed the passenger front Stabilizer link for the strut and sway bar has a cracked bushing. I will have one tomorrow from the dealership. Do you have torque specs for the bolts? Also, my rubber grommet on my brake caliper slider pin has swelled. Dealer says they don't sell them individually. Any risk with not using the rubber piece? Gonna use some 3m silicone on the pins but wish I could find the rubber piece for the pin
Hi! The rubber piece for the pin should come separate from the pad holder. I don’t have access to the system right now for torque specs. Try to leave a comment tomorrow and I’ll dig it up for you.
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks for the reply CCN. One of the RAv4 forum posters states it is 55 foot pounds for the stabilizer link bolts for top and bottom. Can you verify this as correct for my 07 V6 limited? Thanks CCN-U are one of if not the best RUclips channels for Toyota help!!!
That is correct. 55 ft lbs for front and rear upper. 22 ft lbs for rear lower
@@TheCarCareNut You're the BEST!!!
Awesome video
Hey AMD, stoked about the shop, gonna be AWESOME! At my dealership, if I ask, will they transfer my original shims over to my new pads or look at me funny and recommend I buy new ones? Also, can I ask them to use the Toyota grease or is that a common practice?
Hi! Usually they are automatically transferred unless they’re broke or rusty at which point they will recommend new ones
Does the fitting kits fit on a certain way? For a 11 highlander
good job. thank you for video
I have a 10 year pads but only 25K miles. Lots of thickness left. Do they have life span?
So technically they don’t. But I’ve seen cases of pads separating from the backing or cracking after they’ve been on the car for a long time. Brakes should be inspected regularly as part of the cars maintenance inspections. When the technician sees that I would then replace them. Otherwise nothing to worry about.
You don’t has brake grease underneath the fitting kit?
hi AMD i wanna know is there anything different to do with 2017 RAV4 Hybrid to change brake ? like ABS relay take out or something ?
Hi! Just change the brakes like a normal gasoline only model just don’t open the hydraulic circuit.
@@TheCarCareNut thanks man
I was waiting for your reply 😊
Over my years of working on cars, I learned only OEM parts for all repairs, unless you are working on an older car where original parts are no longer available.
Great video! I have an ‘06 GX470, would you recommend always changing the rotors out with the pads? Or should i resurface? I just got my rear rotors/pads replaced by a shop with aftermarket. Is there a way to see if I have factory shims retained without taking the wheel off? Thanks. Mark
If you don't replace the rotors, you might just install new pads without resurfacing the rotors and losing some thickness as long as your pads still had a good amount left on them. If you wait until the pads are almost completely worn out, the rotors would have been ruined. Replacing the pads and keeping the rotors might be OK on smaller sedans but somewhat dangerous on a heavy SUV.
On my 2005 4Runner, I did the 5th gen brake upgrade last year and it is so much better.
Pictures:
photos.app.goo.gl/UdGkvUs2eMFKq5jp7
Toyota 4Runner Upgrading 4th Gen to 5th Gen Brakes and Caliper
ruclips.net/video/5euQp5ViMAk/видео.html
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Do the 5th gen upgrade here: www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/249328-5th-gen-4runner-brakes-upgrade-4th-gen-4runner.html
Also, read through the whole thread. You want 4th gen rotors with 5th gen calipers in the rear.
Lastly, get Napa remans with a lifetime warranty. One of the better caliper options, and when they seize its a simple swap at your local Napa.
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Parts from Rock Auto and Advance Auto:
Front: painted 5th gen (2010, do not use 2016 model year) calipers, painted 2010 rotors, 2010 ceramic pads.
Rear: painted 5th gen (2010) rotors, painted 4th gen rotors, semi-metallic brake pads.
Plenty of dot 3 brake fluid to flush the system.
You want 4th gen rotors and pads with 5th gen calipers in the rear.
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AKEBONO
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Brake Pad
$ 40.79
$ 0.00
1
$ 40.79
POWER STOP
S6278
Caliper
$ 83.79
$ 48.00
2
$ 263.58
2010 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4.0L V6
RAYBESTOS
980784
Rotor
$ 58.79
$ 0.00
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Core Return for calipers: $96 shipping
Total cost: $502.38 - $96 = $406.38
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I also bought the rear calipers from Rock Auto. You might be able to find kits on eBay that are cheaper.
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Rear Power Stop Brake Calipers
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5-7-2020
Costco - tire balancing - 5/7/2020
Tires: 34 psi (measured warm)
Odometer: 85,800 miles
Car seems to drive better with balanced tires.
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5-4-2020
Odometer: 85,822 miles
Tires rotated - front criss-crossed to the back; back tires straight forward
Front brakes - parts from Rock Auto - 5th gen painted calipers, Raybestos painted rotors, Akebono pads - $500
labor $220
Rear brakes - parts from Advance Auto plus labor - $300
Parts from Advance Auto:
Carquest Wearever Gold Ceramic Brake Pads - Rear (4-Pad Set) GNAD606: Advance Auto Parts
shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-wearever-gold-ceramic-brake-pads-rear-4-pad-set-gnad606/10151943-P?
$35.99
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CARQUEST Platinum Painted Brake Rotor - Rear YH145330P: Advance Auto Parts - $66.99
shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-platinum-painted-brake-rotor-rear-yh145330p/11395623-P?
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My REAR brakes were completely worn out. I really noticed that just driving to the mechanic at Peterson and California (Citgo).
Finishing up now.
Front labor: $220
Rear new pads and rotors with labor: $300
Advance Auto - Carquest Platinum Painted Rotor; Carquest - Wearever Gold Premium Brake Pads
Question if I go to my Toyota dealer would they be able to apply grease on my breaks my car is fairly new and is under any warranty they provide. Breaks just started making some noise I figured it was lack of grease.
Hi! Yes they should be able to if they can duplicate the concern
Hey AMD. Are OEM Toyota brake discs and pads mad by Akebono?
Not always. They’ve used many manufacturers over the yeats
@@TheCarCareNut Do you know what manufacturers they use now? And who have they used previously?
They use a lot of advics lately
Thanks. Is the same grease that you applied for the fitting kit acceptable for the hub/rotor mating surface?
Yes it can work for that as well
If you put grease on the back of the shim, wouldn't it cause shim to shift and become loose?
If they’re original they hold on very well
Found the big difference in the “0e” pads and the “AZ” pads toyota sells. The after market equivelent “az” pads dont have f&$@n holes for the anti squeal v springs
Hi my Toyota shim kit came with an inner shim and an outer shim. Do I put the grease on both sides of the inner shim?
Hi! No need to grease the inner shim.
I’ve never had any luck with the aftermarket fittings kit it’s allways to big
My pads are wearing out in 15k. Maybe bad calipers ?
According to Toyota, do not let grease go into the holes on the pads. The box should have an illustration of where to apply the grease. Video: ruclips.net/video/cy4PLb8Y7BU/видео.html
Hi! This video is for an old value line of pads as shown in the video. These pads are actually discontinued because they’re horrible. Replaced with different ones that use the oem shims and don’t come with shims.
@@TheCarCareNut I plan to buy a set of Toyota front pads for my ‘18 camry. Do you know if they come with shims?
Either version doesn’t come with pads. There’s the factory ones which are semi metallic and more expensive. Then there’s the ceramic value ones which are cheaper. The value ones will have the letters AZ in their part number
@@TheCarCareNut much appreciated. Love your channel!!!
Hi, How are you? Can you give me the front and back brake pads parts No. , kits and Shim Parts No. for my Toyota Rav4 2017 XLE Hybrid car. Thank you and have good night....
Could you email me your VIN no as there might be more than one option for parts.
Are the stock brake pads ceramic?
I think you should do the video all at once . if you're watching the brake replacement you want to watch it until it's done not In parts
That was a different era in the channel. I would’ve done it in one single video
I had to stop the video where he applied grease to the shim. Well, i pretty sure many of you diy here watches ton of video how to do brake but most of them applied grease on the outter side of the shim. As he explain why it make sense and i dont see grease anywhere with oem.
I'd use penetrating oil to clean the bracket
what happens if you don't grease?
Possibility of brake noise increases