To anyone watching this. Make sure if you buy jack stands , that you buy ones with the extra safety pin (is on a key ring/chain ) pin slips in as an extra safety feature in case the jack fails . As he said don't forget wheel chalks. Torque wrench/ Torque Sticks-Torque Bar, Tire Crayon-Marker might be handy as well. Putting a tire under the car or block of wood is an extra safety measure you might want to take also just in case the jack failed or if you didn't set it right and didn't notice.
Most people who've ever touched their cars do, but I'm going to be getting into some installation videos and will start with the car on jack stands with wheels removed. When someone asks how it's done, I want to be able to refer to this video. Always explaining the basics first. :)
Great video and attention to safety, I see a lot of people who don't know what they're doing have their car fall off of a jack because they don't use the points they're supposed to.
@@TubeYouGuru The tires will not be wide enough to stop the car coming down on your head because you wouldn't normally lie completely flat under there while working. When that happen, you will go into a vegetative state and more expense for your family. Much cheaper sticking with a third-party insurance - when you are gone, you are gone. Alternatively, I suggest replace the stands with stacks of joined-together wood with a large base. The car cannot go through a big pile of wood.
@@fungames24 if you lay on the ground OG style like I do, rather than a glider, it works. Plus I'm really small as it is, so I've got more than enough space. Probably not safe for a beefcake tho. Haha
The chock should be placed on the outside of the tire (furthest from where you're jacking the car) since if the car were to roll it would roll towards the end that is the lowest. To be safe (especially if you're working on a mild incline - not recommend!) you can always put chocks on both sides.
Since how-to/installation/repair videos are not the norm for this channel, I'm going to be releasing them with a greater frequency than my "explained" videos. I will have a video released every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday between October 2nd and October 16th, so get ready for an overdose of Engineering Explained over the next two weeks! The focus will primarily be on coilovers, but there will be other videos as well. Hope you call can learn something from the coming installation videos!
Putting your car in gear or park to lock the front wheels (for jacking the rear) only works on a front wheel drive. Use wheel chocks always. Also, it's good to give the car a shake before inspecting the jack stands, listen for any shifting, don't raise too high from one side. Good video, but missing some additional safety information. Make sure your jack stand is on a surface that won't sink. Best to check out some other videos from professionals.
@SuperrBludger Those jack points are safe to hold the car on jack stands. In fact, if you look in the owners manual or repair manual it will show/tell you to place the jackstands in that location, on the reinforced jack point. Often cars have a unibody construction and do not have a conventional chassis. If you try to jack up the car or place stands somewhere else there is a good chance you could do some damage. You can knock on that area and hear that it is not solid, if you try to jack there you can see the metal start to flex. Really the only decent places to hold the car are the jack points or certain places on the engine, trans, diff, or suspension. This does depend on the vehicle.
It's funny, I was watching your videos to learn about the clutch/transmission but ended up here after a little while... I only started working on my car recently and the first thing I did was have my older brother show me how to jack it safely. He raised each side from the jack point and then slid a jack stand under a strong part of the frame. While this was happening I asked why not just jack both sides at once and he (as usual) chose to think I was just being dumb.
Maybe people haven't started to work on their cars yet, or change their own oil, etc... You have to start somewhere. I don't want to include getting the car onto jack stands for every installation video I do that requires it, so for those who need it it'll be right here. And hopefully my installation videos will be simple enough that anyone could repeat the process if the chose to do so.
We just put the whole car in the air on 4 jackstands, that way she can't roll anywhere. Also, in theory the side jacking points (or sills) are really only used for the scissor-jack that the car comes with, over time you can crush the metal tang flat. If you can put the stand under another piece of frame near or on a suspension mounting point it is usually better, but it is also hard to find these points when you aren't familiar with the underside of the vehicle.
An added precaution would be to put the tires under the car around where the frame of the vehicle is so if it does happen to slip off you still have the rims to keep the car off the ground and support it.
If you're jacking the car up high, to work under it not just remove the wheels, after you set it down on the jack stands leave the jack under it and shake the car on the jack stands back and forth vigorously. *It should be solid as a rock!* If ANYTHING doesn't feel right or feels wobbly, don't get under it! Jack the car back up and reseat the jack stands until it's solid!
I wouldn't put the car on a single jack stand. Ultimately it would depend on the frame completely, but it could be putting some strange forces on it that it typically wouldn't see.
I almost went with that harbor freight, got a big red instead, because oddly enough it was actually a little cheaper the day I was buying a jack. But I know full on car guys that have that jack.
I suggest (for integras at least) that after you get it lifted up with the jack stands under it, and if you have the front up, pop the hood and stand on the metal bar that the top of the front plastic attaches to and give it a few light bounces, nothing to crazy you’re not trying to make it slip and fall but just enough to make you confident that it won’t slip while you’re under the car, if you have the back up do the same thing in the trunk, if all 4 sides are up test the front and back
I would simply search for a forum discussing the mounting points, if you're unable to located them on your own. Worst case, you could probably get the manual (or at least find the jacking points) from a dealer/mechanic. You shouldn't lift the vehicle from points which were not designed to do so.
Review videos on how brakes work, and remember the fact rear brakes are usually much weaker than fronts. Rev up, dump clutch, stomp brakes, check if speedometer is above zero, enjoy. If speedometer shows 0 - you need new clutch and air freshener. If tachometer shows 0 - you need a better engine. If there's only one skidmark - you need a locking or limited slip differential. Oh yes, also review videos on limited slip diffs ;)
I watch your videos in the past and I always thought you were very intellectual smart to the point guy. Everyone's a Critic I know but I got a call out I was kind of not understanding why would you say if you're jacking up the rear of the car make sure to put it in gear? Unfortunately most people have no idea whether their car is front or rear furthermore anybody was an Enthusiast has a rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive that being said my only critique on your video perhaps is to specify front wheel or rear wheel rather than which side you're jacking up. Again let me tell you that your videos are good and this is constructive criticism and if you think I'm an ass-whole I understand :-)
that's a nice jack, also which end of the car using the transmission as wheel "chocks" depends on weather its front or rear wheel drive. actual wheel chocks should always be used as well
Lol just give it a good shake, make sure your on even ground, some slabs have been known to crack if there is a void in the middle, gravel can be sketchy, use very thick plywood and thin metal over the top to stop it from digging in, i used a old pc case side. But yes be careful, i've had a car slip before, luckily i was just giving the car some welly in the hub nut, but that always taught me safety safety safety!!!!!!
How would you lift your entire car, do you do the back or front first? Also how high can you jack your car, can you have the jack almost be vertical, or is that not safe?
This is the time you wanna take extra caution don’t rush the jacking up procedure. Your safety top priority extra tip is put the tires under the vehicle close to the jacks in case a jack stand fails car will fall on the tires and not you or the ground
If you're doing anything involving the wheels, you can't have them on ramps. No jack stand is going to reach high enough if your car is on ramps, and even if you raised them with blocks or something they'd just be in your way for little to no benefit.
whether you use 4 ramps or only 2 ramps it's much safer than stands. Because using ramps the tires have contact to the ramp and stands are only supported by the frame
Hi EE! Do you know for certain that all vehicles have these jack points for floor jack use? I really appreciate your time pointing out the difference. I feel the manual only points out where the jack stands go.
To me, this is the worst part about working on any car, simply because I don't do it often enough to really remember what to do. A question, why is the area that you apply the jack stands shaped the way it is? With that long metal strip, I think it's called a pinch weld? I'm a total newb on this sort of thing (in spite being in my 40's lol), it just seems odd to me that every car I have had to jack up was like this
Integra is a slow economic fwd car that can barely drag its weight .....but with some mods can show lots performance values in the race world...good cars
This is a hot topic amid mellienial diyers and introduction of suv unibodys The physics don't allow for a trolley jack to go right on the frame and bent frame rail.
I have seen this in the past few videos that I was told not to do: 1 you took the bolts off before you jacked up the car 2: you didn't take off the bolts in opposites (top, bottom, right, left). Why did you do it that way?
1. I didn't remove them, I loosened them. Otherwise the wheel will rotate and the nuts won't come off easily once raised. 2. I tighten them in the star pattern, as far as removing them, doesn't seem like it would matter.
I have a question that might be silly but I’m having trouble finding a solid answer to on my own….if I’m planning on raising and supporting both ends of the car and taking all 4 wheels off, is there a certain way this should be done? Front first, or rear first? Or am I overthinking it lol….just want to keep my Mustang in awesome shape and do mods to it without dying a horrible death underneath it lol 🤷🏻♂️😬
Ramps can be dangerous too, for instance never drive your car foward onto ramps, always reverse onto ramps. My mate almost got crushed a few weeks ago by his 200sx rolling down on him.
I just had to jack up a Toyota, and the jack points were the same metal bar you showed, and that the owners manual showed. But my metal bar bent, and caused the whole car to come crashing down! I moved my jack to a different spot in the front that was part of the frame, and it held much better. But why the hell did it bend? Did I do something wrong, or was it just a cheap/shitty part?? I swear on my life it was the same part the manual showed.
What about vehicles that don't have a center Front jacking Point such as a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee? And if you are needing to Jack from the side how do you actually get a jack stand in when the Jack takes up the entire jack point?
1:25 what if my car doesn't have that middle thing? Can I lift one side, slide a jack stand, then the other side and slide another jack stand? I wanna lift just the front
I still dont feel safe under a car on stands, even on a 2 post lift there is still some risk, 4 post lift or a pit are the only totally safe ways to work underneath a car really.
I always use a brick or piece of wood in the garage to make sure the wheels dont roll. Never really thought about there being something purpose built for it.
To anyone watching this. Make sure if you buy jack stands , that you buy ones with the extra safety pin (is on a key ring/chain ) pin slips in as an extra safety feature in case the jack fails . As he said don't forget wheel chalks. Torque wrench/ Torque Sticks-Torque Bar, Tire Crayon-Marker might be handy as well. Putting a tire under the car or block of wood is an extra safety measure you might want to take also just in case the jack failed or if you didn't set it right and didn't notice.
stack spare tires or bricks under the car so if anything collapses you won't get crushed
Most people who've ever touched their cars do, but I'm going to be getting into some installation videos and will start with the car on jack stands with wheels removed. When someone asks how it's done, I want to be able to refer to this video. Always explaining the basics first. :)
Did you bend in the metal tab on each of the jack stands?
Great video and attention to safety, I see a lot of people who don't know what they're doing have their car fall off of a jack because they don't use the points they're supposed to.
So cool to see your progression as a RUclipsr... Watching this one for the first time in 2021.
Same here!
Extra tip, slide the tires under the car. Comprehensive insurance ;)
Better than a car coming down on your head or chest
@@TubeYouGuru
The tires will not be wide enough to stop the car coming down on your head because you wouldn't normally lie completely flat under there while working. When that happen, you will go into a vegetative state and more expense for your family. Much cheaper sticking with a third-party insurance - when you are gone, you are gone. Alternatively, I suggest replace the stands with stacks of joined-together wood with a large base. The car cannot go through a big pile of wood.
B Rad
That saved me and a car !! But wrecked my brand new iPhone 😢
Use old rims
@@fungames24 if you lay on the ground OG style like I do, rather than a glider, it works. Plus I'm really small as it is, so I've got more than enough space. Probably not safe for a beefcake tho. Haha
The chock should be placed on the outside of the tire (furthest from where you're jacking the car) since if the car were to roll it would roll towards the end that is the lowest. To be safe (especially if you're working on a mild incline - not recommend!) you can always put chocks on both sides.
“Chock” - helpful term to know, thanks. Googled “chalk the rear wheels” to understand what this meant 😂
Since how-to/installation/repair videos are not the norm for this channel, I'm going to be releasing them with a greater frequency than my "explained" videos. I will have a video released every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday between October 2nd and October 16th, so get ready for an overdose of Engineering Explained over the next two weeks!
The focus will primarily be on coilovers, but there will be other videos as well. Hope you call can learn something from the coming installation videos!
Putting your car in gear or park to lock the front wheels (for jacking the rear) only works on a front wheel drive. Use wheel chocks always. Also, it's good to give the car a shake before inspecting the jack stands, listen for any shifting, don't raise too high from one side. Good video, but missing some additional safety information. Make sure your jack stand is on a surface that won't sink. Best to check out some other videos from professionals.
@SuperrBludger
Those jack points are safe to hold the car on jack stands. In fact, if you look in the owners manual or repair manual it will show/tell you to place the jackstands in that location, on the reinforced jack point. Often cars have a unibody construction and do not have a conventional chassis. If you try to jack up the car or place stands somewhere else there is a good chance you could do some damage. You can knock on that area and hear that it is not solid, if you try to jack there you can see the metal start to flex.
Really the only decent places to hold the car are the jack points or certain places on the engine, trans, diff, or suspension. This does depend on the vehicle.
Nice vid....I always just lift my truck with my left hand and change the tire with my right. Cheaper that way.
It's funny, I was watching your videos to learn about the clutch/transmission but ended up here after a little while... I only started working on my car recently and the first thing I did was have my older brother show me how to jack it safely. He raised each side from the jack point and then slid a jack stand under a strong part of the frame. While this was happening I asked why not just jack both sides at once and he (as usual) chose to think I was just being dumb.
Maybe people haven't started to work on their cars yet, or change their own oil, etc... You have to start somewhere. I don't want to include getting the car onto jack stands for every installation video I do that requires it, so for those who need it it'll be right here. And hopefully my installation videos will be simple enough that anyone could repeat the process if the chose to do so.
We just put the whole car in the air on 4 jackstands, that way she can't roll anywhere. Also, in theory the side jacking points (or sills) are really only used for the scissor-jack that the car comes with, over time you can crush the metal tang flat. If you can put the stand under another piece of frame near or on a suspension mounting point it is usually better, but it is also hard to find these points when you aren't familiar with the underside of the vehicle.
An added precaution would be to put the tires under the car around where the frame of the vehicle is so if it does happen to slip off you still have the rims to keep the car off the ground and support it.
It's my first car, and a great one!
If you're jacking the car up high, to work under it not just remove the wheels, after you set it down on the jack stands leave the jack under it and shake the car on the jack stands back and forth vigorously.
*It should be solid as a rock!*
If ANYTHING doesn't feel right or feels wobbly, don't get under it! Jack the car back up and reseat the jack stands until it's solid!
Ohh, you are correct. Yeah it's Pittsburg one, low profile/high lift. I think it was around $140 but that was with a 2 year extended warranty.
Been looking for the actual jack points on my teg today. Thanks man!!!!!!
Good vid and explanation. I have always changed my seasonal tires one at a time using the jack. Knew it wasn't the right or safest way. Thanks.
Nice video. I find it easier to jack from the sill and put the jack/ Axel stands under the wishbone if I'm only working on one side.
awesome video. i like it. short and to the point. you really helped me. now to replace the brake pads on my car. thanks a mil. many blessings to you!
I wouldn't put the car on a single jack stand. Ultimately it would depend on the frame completely, but it could be putting some strange forces on it that it typically wouldn't see.
Good call, chocks are important!
Harbor Freight low profile jack and AutoZone jack stands. Same stuff I use.
I almost went with that harbor freight, got a big red instead, because oddly enough it was actually a little cheaper the day I was buying a jack. But I know full on car guys that have that jack.
Dude I really like your Integra. I want it to be my first car.
I suggest (for integras at least) that after you get it lifted up with the jack stands under it, and if you have the front up, pop the hood and stand on the metal bar that the top of the front plastic attaches to and give it a few light bounces, nothing to crazy you’re not trying to make it slip and fall but just enough to make you confident that it won’t slip while you’re under the car, if you have the back up do the same thing in the trunk, if all 4 sides are up test the front and back
When removing rear tires put the tires in the trunk so the center of gravity doesn't change, which could cause you car to tip forward on the hoist.
It's actually pretty nice since you can adjust the height at which the car rests at.
You are very fortunate to have such a machine.
I would simply search for a forum discussing the mounting points, if you're unable to located them on your own. Worst case, you could probably get the manual (or at least find the jacking points) from a dealer/mechanic. You shouldn't lift the vehicle from points which were not designed to do so.
Review videos on how brakes work, and remember the fact rear brakes are usually much weaker than fronts. Rev up, dump clutch, stomp brakes, check if speedometer is above zero, enjoy. If speedometer shows 0 - you need new clutch and air freshener. If tachometer shows 0 - you need a better engine. If there's only one skidmark - you need a locking or limited slip differential. Oh yes, also review videos on limited slip diffs ;)
I watch your videos in the past and I always thought you were very intellectual smart to the point guy. Everyone's a Critic I know but I got a call out I was kind of not understanding why would you say if you're jacking up the rear of the car make sure to put it in gear? Unfortunately most people have no idea whether their car is front or rear furthermore anybody was an Enthusiast has a rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive that being said my only critique on your video perhaps is to specify front wheel or rear wheel rather than which side you're jacking up. Again let me tell you that your videos are good and this is constructive criticism and if you think I'm an ass-whole I understand :-)
Can i lift the car with a factory jack and then put the jack stands?
Good camera work
Clear and concise
We just practiced this in my Auto Ownership and Maintenance class.
Had the same thought, perhaps worth annotating since this video in particular is aimed at those who are new to working on cars.
Indeed, brand new! My other jack couldn't lift high enough for the stands, how sad.
I'm in grade 10 and I have to do this for my auto exam and it's the same car I'm doing it on thank you so much I was really lost!
true mechanics don't watch a guide for something this simple, even in the beginning! - famous last words
sauercrowder is why are you here then
simply the BEST . cant wait for the upcoming videos thank you . i have learned so much from all your vids
that's a nice jack, also which end of the car using the transmission as wheel "chocks" depends on weather its front or rear wheel drive. actual wheel chocks should always be used as well
Am i the only one who gets sketched out at the thought of doing this alone?!?
Thought has run through my mind, yes. I need to start putting the tires under the sides of the car.
Lol just give it a good shake, make sure your on even ground, some slabs have been known to crack if there is a void in the middle, gravel can be sketchy, use very thick plywood and thin metal over the top to stop it from digging in, i used a old pc case side. But yes be careful, i've had a car slip before, luckily i was just giving the car some welly in the hub nut, but that always taught me safety safety safety!!!!!!
i feel safer alone. no one will lean on the car or "accidentally" kick the jack stand.
Yes you are
Plus the scissor jack it comes with! Triple insurance
nice work soldier
can I use a regular scissor jack to jack the car up and then put the jack stands or do I need a low profile hydraulic jack? thanks
I want to know this also!
How would you lift your entire car, do you do the back or front first? Also how high can you jack your car, can you have the jack almost be vertical, or is that not safe?
This is the time you wanna take extra caution don’t rush the jacking up procedure. Your safety top priority extra tip is put the tires under the vehicle close to the jacks in case a jack stand fails car will fall on the tires and not you or the ground
If you're doing anything involving the wheels, you can't have them on ramps. No jack stand is going to reach high enough if your car is on ramps, and even if you raised them with blocks or something they'd just be in your way for little to no benefit.
Correct, if it's a FWD vehicle to help prevent it from rolling.
whether you use 4 ramps or only 2 ramps it's much safer than stands. Because using ramps the tires have contact to the ramp and stands are only supported by the frame
In a RWD car, how do you lift the rear without the front wheels moving?
IgnacioSeveriens Wheel chocks.
At least buddy is trying to be safe and asked.
If you can't figure that out, you shouldn't be working on your own car
@@burns1210 *Correct*
Fail point of 4 Ton Jack Stands is not what matters here;
It can be done, yes.
Hi EE! Do you know for certain that all vehicles have these jack points for floor jack use? I really appreciate your time pointing out the difference. I feel the manual only points out where the jack stands go.
Thanks for sharing!
Safety First! Thanks for the Video
Why remove the tire? Do we have to remove the tire?
appreciated for your detailed video! good job!
I believe they are Duralast 2 Ton jacks.
Thanks for Sharing. 👍🏼
To me, this is the worst part about working on any car, simply because I don't do it often enough to really remember what to do. A question, why is the area that you apply the jack stands shaped the way it is? With that long metal strip, I think it's called a pinch weld? I'm a total newb on this sort of thing (in spite being in my 40's lol), it just seems odd to me that every car I have had to jack up was like this
A very well engineered car too
Which way should the jack stand levers shoul be facing inside toward the car or reverse facing you.
Can one use the scissor jack that comes with a car to lift one side at a time, placing each jack one at a time to get the entire front up?
Alex Merritt Very time consuming but i do it all the time. No problem at all. Leave the jack there too to support the weight
hey to get the first jack stand under the car, where should i put it since the scissor jack is in the spot where it needs to go
If you only need to jack up one side of the car and remove one tire can you put two jack stands side by side on the pinch weld just in case one fails?
I have a staight axle. Is it safe to do one side at a time? My vehicle doesnt have a center location like yours so it wont balance like that
Integra is a slow economic fwd car that can barely drag its weight .....but with some mods can show lots performance values in the race world...good cars
This is a hot topic amid mellienial diyers and introduction of suv unibodys
The physics don't allow for a trolley jack to go right on the frame and bent frame rail.
thanks man.
Pretty sure he was asking about the floor jack. It looks awesome, I need one that low profile.
you should do a video of how to change the car oil
2:50 thats some crazy finger strength
use a flat head screw driver to pry off the Hub caps from the sides. just do a bit at a time on each side then pull it right off.
your front mounting points are not correct. use the frame not the lift points for the scissor jack.
Can't emphasize enough: KEEP the jack under the jacking point as a safety after you've put the car on the jack stands. You can never be too safe :-)
Gets in the way a lot of times, especially when working under the engine bay area.
So use bricks instead
Great video
I have seen this in the past few videos that I was told not to do: 1 you took the bolts off before you jacked up the car 2: you didn't take off the bolts in opposites (top, bottom, right, left). Why did you do it that way?
1. I didn't remove them, I loosened them. Otherwise the wheel will rotate and the nuts won't come off easily once raised.
2. I tighten them in the star pattern, as far as removing them, doesn't seem like it would matter.
How are the pittsburgh jacks? They any good? I came close to buying one but was hesitant. Nice looking integra!!
Is it dangerous if you only have the e-break on but not the wheel blocks? I've only ever had to change a spare once and that was how I had it.
I would always use chocks, the e-brake could slip.
I have a question that might be silly but I’m having trouble finding a solid answer to on my own….if I’m planning on raising and supporting both ends of the car and taking all 4 wheels off, is there a certain way this should be done? Front first, or rear first? Or am I overthinking it lol….just want to keep my Mustang in awesome shape and do mods to it without dying a horrible death underneath it lol 🤷🏻♂️😬
Thank you so much! This video was a life saver! :-)
In my integra manual it states rear tow hook is NOT a jacking point. Just wondered what you thought abou this
Going under the vehicle good to know to leave the jacket stand there as extra precaution☺️
Ramps can be dangerous too, for instance never drive your car foward onto ramps, always reverse onto ramps. My mate almost got crushed a few weeks ago by his 200sx rolling down on him.
Vintage Jason!
I just had to jack up a Toyota, and the jack points were the same metal bar you showed, and that the owners manual showed. But my metal bar bent, and caused the whole car to come crashing down! I moved my jack to a different spot in the front that was part of the frame, and it held much better. But why the hell did it bend? Did I do something wrong, or was it just a cheap/shitty part?? I swear on my life it was the same part the manual showed.
Nice, very helpful
i mean because you usually lean on the hood, a little bit of momentum can throw it off the stands at the back.
Coilover installation video is this coming Monday!
Wooden blocks?
What about vehicles that don't have a center Front jacking Point such as a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee? And if you are needing to Jack from the side how do you actually get a jack stand in when the Jack takes up the entire jack point?
1:25 what if my car doesn't have that middle thing? Can I lift one side, slide a jack stand, then the other side and slide another jack stand? I wanna lift just the front
if my jack wont fit under the front can i do each side one by one using the frame rails and the seam points?
If you’ve got the option, drive onto some wood blocks to get extra clearance.
Lol why did this just went on my notifications BTW nice vid very helpful but...I know how to do this lol
I think you should mention that it's only vital to put in gear when lifting the rear if you have a FWD. Wouldn't work in a RWD.
I still dont feel safe under a car on stands, even on a 2 post lift there is still some risk, 4 post lift or a pit are the only totally safe ways to work underneath a car really.
Lol great video I have 99 integra, how convenient.
Nice, great car!
How long can car been on this jack? No damage if is to long on it? Tnx
Thank you for this man, I appreciate you!!!
Both sides of the jack doesn’t touch the pinch well in my car any tips ? 2004 Toyota Corolla
I always use a brick or piece of wood in the garage to make sure the wheels dont roll. Never really thought about there being something purpose built for it.