Mattias' plea for the utility and efficacy of a dedicated router table, "...that will easily save me a couple of minutes maybe once or twice a month when I want to put a quick round-over on something." (Insert barely hidden grin here.) Ha! Great project as usual. Thanks for sharing with us!
Yeah, it's so simple, yet not even 50 year old senior engineers with decades of practical experience have ever mentioned that to me! Good stuff as always.
I'll add another tip. The Earth wire on a plug should always be longer then the Live and Neutral. That way it's the last wire to loose connection in case the wire is becoming loose.
Great build. Really loved the sarcastic humor at the end too. Its the curse of all trades involving creating things. You spend hours creating something that will hopefully save a few minutes here or there.
Well, as long as you also had fun creating the thing, I'd say it isn't a curse at all. You had free entertainment for as long as your project lasted, and you ended up with a useful item that will save you time and prevent annoyance in the future. I'd say that's a win-win.
@@timderks5960 I have to remind myself of that whenever I consider making my own tool or jig. It might not save me time in the long run, but I won't know unless I do it, and at the least I will benefit from practice and experience.
If you round over corners say once a week and it take 5 minutes then it might not be worth it timewise. However, if it then results in rounding over more corners because previously you should have done so couldn't be bothered then even if it's not a win on just the time, the quality and usability of future items might improve.
@@nefariousyawn If you're motivated enough to build the tool, who cares how little time it saves you? It will make the barrier lower for future projects, requiring less motivation, meaning you'll do more.
It's not about how much time it saves you. Even if you rarely use it, it has two benefits: A) The lack of setup means you won't be distracted and loose your train of thought about what you were working on. B) When using the router table you'll be reminded of what a neat machine it is to have in the shop which will put a positive light on your project.
I like "put a positive light on your project" versus the worn our "Put a smile on your face." Where else can any person get a smile. I would pay money to see that.
Lmao that was hilarious when you crawled into it to find the air leaks. I was surprised because usually you're one of those outside of the box thinkers.
Well done Matthias. You made a fantastic router table there ! and I love that draw underneath that keeps all your router bits and tools very organized and tidy ! 👍 Very cool project !! 👍👍
I like it! Well done. I’m also intrigued by the idea of having a dust collector built into each machine. It certainly would save on hanging duct work all over the shop, plus you’re not limited to where in the shop you can put the machines by not having to worry if there’s a dust collector hookup nearby.
Keeping your router tools sharp will reduce the fine dust... that is what really messes up power tools. judging by the wood chips you have that is one very sharp tool! Great job!
I have a simple rugged reliable router tabel that I made over twenty years ago. It has survived my use in trade for that time.it is completely demountable being two frames held apart with rails and tusk tenons, the top sitting on this frame located on the tops of the legs with shallow mortices. it works a treat. This build video however has set me thinking. The greatest advantage to someone such as myself who also uses a demountable routr table for hobby work at home as well as site work would be the fact that the cabinet reduces sound transmission. I think that something similar could be made using flat panels of say 18mm ply mounted with keku clips.Battens could be included with seals in to maintain air tightness. The top could still drop on to the base but with a seal routed into the junction. thank you for the ideas Matthias. The quiet running extraction would also be a benefit. Why though is your fence so short?
I think you're underestimating the savings. With a dedicated table, you're apt to use it more often. Also, the clear urethane color showing off the wood grain is very nice!.
Fair play to you Matthias for helping the electrical tape industry - i still use it, mainly because if I used shrink tubing, I'd probably forget to slide it on before making the connections lol!
You could just use wire nuts. There are some Wago double butt splice lever wire nuts that would be perfect for this. Or crimp type butt connectors also.
Pretty nice work, dude! 😃 There's a rubber tape people use in speaker boxes... You know? Anyway, you could use it between the cabinet and the top. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Having a setup router table means you are more likely to use it. When I was working as a resin rat at a boat builder they had router cubes that were about an 18 inch cube with two routes setup in the cubes as a router table. One of the guys had one that was 30 inches long by 14 inches square on the ends with fences. A lot of teak chips and dust was made by those things in a days work.
@@KipdoesStuff the cube's work faces were covered with smooth Formica. The long one had the area for the routers cut out and the work surfaces were 3/8 clear acrylic sheet that the router bases were attached to. I thought it was a slick setup because you had a longer infeed area over the cubes.
"That will easily save me a couple of minutes, maybe once or twice a month, when I want to put a quick round-over on something." Not for nothing, but I bought cheap trim routers from Horrible Freight for my common edge-trimming operations. There's a chamfer router, a 1/4" roundover router, 1/8" roundover router, and a straight flush-trim router. They're like $29 bucks, so it's cheaper than the router bit in some cases...
Man I was on the other side of the garage when the video started, and I could of sworn it was Beldar Conehead teaching us how to build something capable of getting him back to Remulak.
A strip of adhesive weather seal tape as used on doors and windows laid between the tabletop and frame should stop the "leaks". The staggered wire length and tape is as good as anything when splicing wires. Cheers Eric
Can I make a suggestion? as a resolution to blocking the speed control your could relocate the potentiometer to the outside of the table, that way you have an external speed control. Then you could do the vent idea.
At 5:20 mins. Into the video, we have Matthias in the box...captured?? Matthias, you have been watching too many of your own 'mousetrap' videos! As always, I learned something, generated some ideas, and entertaining to boot. Thanks again
Great table. This is the best one yet. For sealing the table top. Why not put some door weather stripping (the adhesive kind) around the top of the table frame. That way when you put the top back on it'll get a nice seal that isn't permanent allowing you to easily remove the top. I think you had some of this lying around somewhere. For the router, if dust ever becomes a problem. Like you I'm not convinced it will. You could use a foam filter for a wet/dry vac and just close off one end. That should provide enough filtering. They are like $8 USD on Amazon. Worth looking into "should" it ever become a problem or just to keep the naysayers appeased. 😂
What????? NO WANDEL GREEN. LOL That is a nice router table no fancy Schnick Schnack just pure functionality and stiffness. I very like the dust collection too. So that is exactly what I need in my shop. All my thumbs up ;-)
Any particular reason you don’t use those power strips with built in switches? Just seems those would be less work than purchasing and connecting those house switches
Sometimes it's not just the quick changeover to a router operation, it's the storage where all router related things can live together and be ready to go.
Nice build, and great to see you back to inventing/building again! One thing about that router table. Looking at it, it just feels inconvenient to have that one drawer ALL the way to the bottom, which is the logical design, though, given that dust extraction is SO integrated directly to the routing table itself. If you ABSOLUTELY had to, how would you do to put that compartment closer to you as the user? Maybe install something on the side? (asking at the risk of sounding stupid, just being curious)
Why not both ... the drawer at the bottom is perfect for things not used regularly and either have a drawer on the side for more frequently used bits or just mount a 2x4 ( or whatever size you deem fit ) on the side from front to back with holes drilled into it for bits used more often !
For the lip edge, just get some of that door sealing brush and install it around the perimeter on the inside. Should be more than sufficient, easy to open up, and it's cheap as cheap gets.
I would have went with three quarter mdf. It would have created density which absorbs sound and vibration. You have kind of of built a loud speaker. Do like the fan idea. Thanks.
The twisted Maple board at 1:06 , is that one of the pieces you milled on your bandsaw sawmill 8 years ago when you got that piece of Maple from your neighbor?
I guess the speed control would be an obstacle to externally ducting the motor. My router has all the vents on the top and is a single speed model so it is ideal for a flexible hose. I wonder if you could bypass the speed control pot by wiring and mounting one on the outside of the cabinet? It might be more convenient and would make a good video.
A thin layer of rubber sheeting cut into strips placed under the table top may work if you want to keep the top removable, otherwise, I'd use clear silicone under it and around the inner lip edge.
As to the unit rocking on uneven floors. What about having two fixed feet on one side and on the other have two feet on a swing arm that pivots in the center. The swing arm acts as an equalizer that you can then put a locking knob on. Equalizes like these are a common element in industrial applications* where you are clamping multiple parts in a fixture using a single hydraulic cylinder *mostly on high volume production on dedicated machining lines.
Id wrap the router air inlets with stockings. Great cheap dust filters. Get them at Dollarama. I always ask my wife to get them though lol. Hi From Moncton!
@@GreenAppelPie it isn't even starting. It is when you're going along with a project and you have to stop to set something up. I have to mount my router every time I want to use it in the table configuration and it just breaks my momentum on a project. But I don't have the space for a dedicated table. So it is what it is.
(I totally get that it was a funny comment from him in the video and I really liked the project. I'm even a little bit envious about how good he is at making all of these useful things)
I use my router table about twice a month too, it takes more time than you think though, you have to find somewhere else to put all the junk you put on it. because i was not being used !
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"That'll easily save me 1-2 minutes a month."
Worth it.
Mattias' plea for the utility and efficacy of a dedicated router table, "...that will easily save me a couple of minutes maybe once or twice a month when I want to put a quick round-over on something." (Insert barely hidden grin here.) Ha! Great project as usual. Thanks for sharing with us!
Yep, it might get used rarely but on those occasions it gets used it will be invaluable.
Someone said something like that about buying a drill press. You don't use it that often, but when you need it, you're very glad you have one.
Ive never heard about the trick of cutting wires different lengths. That is one I will definitely file away for future use. Thanks!
Yeah, it's so simple, yet not even 50 year old senior engineers with decades of practical experience have ever mentioned that to me! Good stuff as always.
It's a common thing to do when splicing wire bundles. I do the same thing with my jumper wires or cables.
That is common practice. Nothing new, but very efficient.
not only do done to make shorts less likely, it also makes the splice less bulky
I'll add another tip.
The Earth wire on a plug should always be longer then the Live and Neutral. That way it's the last wire to loose connection in case the wire is becoming loose.
Great build. Really loved the sarcastic humor at the end too. Its the curse of all trades involving creating things. You spend hours creating something that will hopefully save a few minutes here or there.
Well, as long as you also had fun creating the thing, I'd say it isn't a curse at all. You had free entertainment for as long as your project lasted, and you ended up with a useful item that will save you time and prevent annoyance in the future. I'd say that's a win-win.
That table could last 100's of years depending on how its passed along in the future.
@@timderks5960 I have to remind myself of that whenever I consider making my own tool or jig. It might not save me time in the long run, but I won't know unless I do it, and at the least I will benefit from practice and experience.
If you round over corners say once a week and it take 5 minutes then it might not be worth it timewise. However, if it then results in rounding over more corners because previously you should have done so couldn't be bothered then even if it's not a win on just the time, the quality and usability of future items might improve.
@@nefariousyawn If you're motivated enough to build the tool, who cares how little time it saves you?
It will make the barrier lower for future projects, requiring less motivation, meaning you'll do more.
It's not about how much time it saves you. Even if you rarely use it, it has two benefits:
A) The lack of setup means you won't be distracted and loose your train of thought about what you were working on.
B) When using the router table you'll be reminded of what a neat machine it is to have in the shop which will put a positive light on your project.
I like "put a positive light on your project" versus the worn our "Put a smile on your face." Where else can any person get a smile. I would pay money to see that.
lose your train of thought
Lmao that was hilarious when you crawled into it to find the air leaks. I was surprised because usually you're one of those outside of the box thinkers.
Sometimes to think outside the box you have to get *into* the box.
Light a cigar let it burn near the seams. It's how I used to check vacuum leaks on cars
Well done Matthias. You made a fantastic router table there ! and I love that draw underneath that keeps all your router bits and tools very organized and tidy ! 👍 Very cool project !! 👍👍
Not gonna lie, i'm a little disappointed its not pea green. Other than that, great build. Might have to copy it some day if i get more room in my shop
You know, good point. It's not finished until it's green! I personally like the color.
D'You mean Wamdel Green?
@@joelirl6764 *Wandel
That color is only for machines.
also did we get denied a jump test?
Every minute counts.
I just love the sound of speed hammering.
As always a great result and a pleasure to watch.
I like it! Well done.
I’m also intrigued by the idea of having a dust collector built into each machine. It certainly would save on hanging duct work all over the shop, plus you’re not limited to where in the shop you can put the machines by not having to worry if there’s a dust collector hookup nearby.
Yep, I wanted central dust collection a one time but have since changed my mind. Local dust collection is better in my opinion.
Keeping your router tools sharp will reduce the fine dust... that is what really messes up power tools. judging by the wood chips you have that is one very sharp tool! Great job!
You can really get into your work. Thanks for the series.
Love your stuff. I've been watching your ingenious and practical creations for several years now. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for bringing back the super fast hammering. That's what originally drew me to this channel.
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With Matthias' talents, a minute or two saved per month adds up to a very valuable savings! Great job! Well designed and executed. Very nice!
Cutting wires to different lengths is a level 9000 wireing hack. Amazing in its simplicity and effectiveness.
I like seeing your build videos again! Keep up the good work!
Couple minutes every month? WORTH IT!
Hi Matthias, schön dass zur Zeit wieder mehr Videos kommen. Es macht immer Spaß dir zuzuschauen. Bleib gsond.
So good to see your videos often again. Thank you for sharing them, “genius”
I have a simple rugged reliable router tabel that I made over twenty years ago. It has survived my use in trade for that time.it is completely demountable being two frames held apart with rails and tusk tenons, the top sitting on this frame located on the tops of the legs with shallow mortices. it works a treat.
This build video however has set me thinking. The greatest advantage to someone such as myself who also uses a demountable routr table for hobby work at home as well as site work would be the fact that the cabinet reduces sound transmission.
I think that something similar could be made using flat panels of say 18mm ply mounted with keku clips.Battens could be included with seals in to maintain air tightness. The top could still drop on to the base but with a seal routed into the junction.
thank you for the ideas Matthias. The quiet running extraction would also be a benefit.
Why though is your fence so short?
I think you're underestimating the savings. With a dedicated table, you're apt to use it more often.
Also, the clear urethane color showing off the wood grain is very nice!.
When you get inside I remember Joey from friends 😅😅😅
Nice dowel maker and bit storer- I'm considering making it, although I think it's best and most used feature will be outfeed table!
i use her a few minutes a month but its a priceless few minutes, clears the mind for other stuff.
the moment matthias climbed inside the dust collector i knew i wanted him to build a box for me to live in
Maybe it's better for shipping.
This episode of Tiny House will feature one built by Matthias Wandel ! Airing at 8 pm CST :-)
Harry Potter's life would've been awfully different has Matthias done the woodworking on his under stairs!
I would never negatively criticize anything you do. You’re too skilled and too real
Thank you for your work! I enjoy your channel. Idea, put some foam tape under the top to cut some of the noise as well as seal.
Nice Job!!!! Looks Awesome!!! I will have to go back & watch the first part. Thank You Sir!!! 👍😎
That is a beautiful piece! Thank you for sharing!
Matthias your hammering skills have improved.
Fair play to you Matthias for helping the electrical tape industry - i still use it, mainly because if I used shrink tubing, I'd probably forget to slide it on before making the connections lol!
I only use shrink tubing if its for someone other than myself.
You could just use wire nuts. There are some Wago double butt splice lever wire nuts that would be perfect for this. Or crimp type butt connectors also.
Great job Matthias! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👌👍😎JP
Pretty nice work, dude! 😃
There's a rubber tape people use in speaker boxes... You know? Anyway, you could use it between the cabinet and the top. 😊
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Having a setup router table means you are more likely to use it.
When I was working as a resin rat at a boat builder they had router cubes that were about an 18 inch cube with two routes setup in the cubes as a router table.
One of the guys had one that was 30 inches long by 14 inches square on the ends with fences. A lot of teak chips and dust was made by those things in a days work.
I've been wanting to make a cedar strip canoe for years. A dedicated router table would be essential.
@@KipdoesStuff the cube's work faces were covered with smooth Formica. The long one had the area for the routers cut out and the work surfaces were 3/8 clear acrylic sheet that the router bases were attached to. I thought it was a slick setup because you had a longer infeed area over the cubes.
Back to practical projects, excellent skill, good explanations, etc. Love these videos!
"That will easily save me a couple of minutes, maybe once or twice a month, when I want to put a quick round-over on something." Not for nothing, but I bought cheap trim routers from Horrible Freight for my common edge-trimming operations. There's a chamfer router, a 1/4" roundover router, 1/8" roundover router, and a straight flush-trim router. They're like $29 bucks, so it's cheaper than the router bit in some cases...
One more interesting and useful build . Thank you for sharing your skills and imagination !
Man I was on the other side of the garage when the video started, and I could of sworn it was Beldar Conehead teaching us how to build something capable of getting him back to Remulak.
Pragmatic and entertaining when you climbed in.
A strip of adhesive weather seal tape as used on doors and windows laid between the tabletop and frame should stop the "leaks".
The staggered wire length and tape is as good as anything when splicing wires.
Cheers Eric
So good to see the "young Matthias" getting in and out of the "box". 🏁😁
Thanks for the nice video.
Subtle flex with the amount of routers that you have lol
You don't have a ton of routers? Better get on that.
@@grandolddrummer I've only got one currently and I'm already always looking for an excuse to use it lol
Best built cabinet ever. The outside cover was a bit of overkill you think??
Wonderful to watch you working with wood ! 👍 👌
That looks amazing! Will definately be trying that!
That moment when you realize his motor cover is stronger than the bench you made lol.
I am happy you are thinking out the box Matthias .
The Master at work, what else can i say. Thank you for sharing ( Stay Safe ) .
5:14. Really into your workmanship there! 😀😇😎
Can I make a suggestion? as a resolution to blocking the speed control your could relocate the potentiometer to the outside of the table, that way you have an external speed control. Then you could do the vent idea.
That cracked me up when you got inside to check the dust extraction, my ass wouldn't fit inside LOL
And you cracked me up now
At 5:20 mins. Into the video, we have Matthias in the box...captured??
Matthias, you have been watching too many of your own 'mousetrap' videos!
As always, I learned something, generated some ideas, and entertaining to boot.
Thanks again
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😄 I like your final comment in the video Matthias. Dry humour.
Also at 4:40 😂😂
Great table. This is the best one yet. For sealing the table top. Why not put some door weather stripping (the adhesive kind) around the top of the table frame. That way when you put the top back on it'll get a nice seal that isn't permanent allowing you to easily remove the top. I think you had some of this lying around somewhere.
For the router, if dust ever becomes a problem. Like you I'm not convinced it will. You could use a foam filter for a wet/dry vac and just close off one end. That should provide enough filtering. They are like $8 USD on Amazon. Worth looking into "should" it ever become a problem or just to keep the naysayers appeased. 😂
I have a similar setup - never had any problems with dust in the router nor overheating.
Hyy friend
There was me thinking that the draw was to collect the wood shavings 😂 really good project and well thought out.
Great build, well designed.
3:39, I was like what on earth ..., oh! ..., that is genius, I wouldn't want to push that big table over the edge!
Lol. That’ll save me a couple of minutes once or twice a month lol. (Spent hours on project) I love your humor.
What????? NO WANDEL GREEN. LOL That is a nice router table no fancy Schnick Schnack just pure functionality and stiffness. I very like the dust collection too.
So that is exactly what I need in my shop. All my thumbs up ;-)
Any particular reason you don’t use those power strips with built in switches? Just seems those would be less work than purchasing and connecting those house switches
Yes, that could be used too. I just like the switch separate.
Off setting the solder joints helps keep the thickness of the entire bundle down as well.
Matthias I love the new hiding place from the wife and kid's, wow how many router setups does one man need ? What was it four or five I lost count 🤔
You gotta put a little table and tea set inside for the router Oompa Loompa.
Absolutely beautiful, like everything Matthias does (Even his rattraps! )
Again a great video!
Even people like Thomas Sanladerer (3D printer stuff) know and recommend you. Great compliment!
Beautiful work! Why not set the router to max speed and use a separate speed controller mounted outside the cab?
those separate speed controllers don’t regulate. I have a video on that.
Sometimes it's not just the quick changeover to a router operation, it's the storage where all router related things can live together and be ready to go.
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Много лет смотрю твои видео и до сих пор ни фига не понимаю, что именно ты говоришь. ))
Работы, конечно, знатные. 👍
Came for that thumbnail! 🤣👍🏻
Hehe,,, yaa ☺☺
Nice build, and great to see you back to inventing/building again!
One thing about that router table. Looking at it, it just feels inconvenient to have that one drawer ALL the way to the bottom, which is the logical design, though, given that dust extraction is SO integrated directly to the routing table itself.
If you ABSOLUTELY had to, how would you do to put that compartment closer to you as the user? Maybe install something on the side? (asking at the risk of sounding stupid, just being curious)
Why not both ... the drawer at the bottom is perfect for things not used regularly and either have a drawer on the side for more frequently used bits or just mount a 2x4 ( or whatever size you deem fit ) on the side from front to back with holes drilled into it for bits used more often !
Nice! Funny to see you climb in it! Whatever works, right?!
For the lip edge, just get some of that door sealing brush and install it around the perimeter on the inside. Should be more than sufficient, easy to open up, and it's cheap as cheap gets.
I would have went with three quarter mdf. It would have created density which absorbs sound and vibration. You have kind of of built a loud speaker. Do like the fan idea. Thanks.
The twisted Maple board at 1:06 , is that one of the pieces you milled on your bandsaw sawmill 8 years ago when you got that piece of Maple from your neighbor?
I guess the speed control would be an obstacle to externally ducting the motor. My router has all the vents on the top and is a single speed model so it is ideal for a flexible hose. I wonder if you could bypass the speed control pot by wiring and mounting one on the outside of the cabinet? It might be more convenient and would make a good video.
Balancing the impeller reminds me of balancing the main blades on rc helicopters with electrical tape. It's pretty satisfying when you get it spot on.
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A thin layer of rubber sheeting cut into strips placed under the table top may work if you want to keep the top removable, otherwise, I'd use clear silicone under it and around the inner lip edge.
👍 for getting in the cabinet!
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Have you seen the video of that youtuber, that also crawled into his router table, got stuck and never came out !? Me neither....RIP router guy 😭
Love the final remark!
As to the unit rocking on uneven floors. What about having two fixed feet on one side and on the other have two feet on a swing arm that pivots in the center. The swing arm acts as an equalizer that you can then put a locking knob on. Equalizes like these are a common element in industrial applications* where you are clamping multiple parts in a fixture using a single hydraulic cylinder
*mostly on high volume production on dedicated machining lines.
Besides the round overs, it's a great hide and seek spot.
Id wrap the router air inlets with stockings. Great cheap dust filters. Get them at Dollarama. I always ask my wife to get them though lol.
Hi From Moncton!
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Reality, the best way to end a project
always get on the second I get the notification, very interesting videos.
Great idea! from Russia with respect!
it will be saving you a few minutes a month? well good thing you made it! 😂
What's more important than the time is the effort. If it is effortless to perform an operation you're more likely to do it.
It’s a lot harder to do something when it’s a chore just to start
Lol, why is everyone afraid to have a cheeky sense of humor these days?
@@GreenAppelPie it isn't even starting. It is when you're going along with a project and you have to stop to set something up. I have to mount my router every time I want to use it in the table configuration and it just breaks my momentum on a project. But I don't have the space for a dedicated table. So it is what it is.
(I totally get that it was a funny comment from him in the video and I really liked the project. I'm even a little bit envious about how good he is at making all of these useful things)
Looks mint mate, very nice!
Im glad you did not climb in side your table saw to check for leaks.
What do you do with all your wood shavings, seems a shame to throw them away so looking for ideas :)
Great video, Matthias!
I use my router table about twice a month too, it takes more time than you think though, you have to find somewhere else to put all the junk you put on it. because i was not being used !
You could get some adhesive backed foam strips to make a reusable gasket to make a better seal between the top and the cabinet.
you sure have a lot of routers, do they multiply at night?
I love the conclusion in the end =)
Best ever !!! inside of cabinet!!
Now you have a place to put the stuff that's cluttering up the table saw every time you want to use it.
Is that extension cord rated for that motor, wouldn’t it be better to hardware the motor to the switch??