As a mechanical engineer, this was awesome to watch haha. the versatility that wood gives you in designing what you want, it's truly inspiring. Thanks!
Your earlier blower videos inspired me to make my own. I got a cheap 750 watt electric water pump for $25, lopped off the pump casting and pulled the impeller. I used a 3/4" piece of hardwood ply for the blade disc and routed 1/8" wide grooves 3/8 deep for the blades to glue into. The blades themselves I used some 1/8 Aluminum flat bar I bent curved using a wooden form. The motor spins at 3450, so I figured metal blades would be a better option for me. It's been working well for over a year so far.
I get really bad sneezing fits from wood dust which has caused me to abandon woodworking... these individual dust collectors might just give me one of my favorite hobbies back. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience on these videos!
There's a website belonging to a guy that wrote extensively on the subject (he was apparently extremely sensitive to wood dust). You might see if you can track down the website of that guy - it's way, way too paranoid about wood dust for most people, but it might just be perfect for your situation. The only clue I have for you is that the Wood Whisperer referenced his work when he was doing dust collection for his shop - I'd offer more but I haven't watched those videos in a couple years or so.
It really shows how much experience you have when you build something like this, Matthias! It's simple in principle, but all the parts interact with each other in complex ways and you intimately understand how they work.
I was wondering how you picked the radius on the fins, and found in your article "I arbitrarily picked the radius for the blades to what seems intuitively right. I want the outer tips of the blades to be near tangential to the circumference and the inner end to be near radial." I liked the near tangetial, and near radial advice.
Another nice build Matthias! The enclosed base of my tilting router lift is cleared by an external dust collector. This works quite well too but I found that the negative pressure as well as chip build up in the router's cooling vents caused the router to get hotter than normal under longer use. I solved this by hooking up a 4 in. flexible plastic dryer hose to the router's cap and porting it to a vent hole in the cabinet. Cool clean air is able to more freely pass through the router and this seemed to solve the problem.
8:22 is one good use of those multitools you've previously said you never found much use for. It takes a steady hand to do well, I think I might get better results with one than a jig saw. But it's also way louder and takes way longer.
Great video. One thing though... It is understood that inside the cabinet is the dust bin, but I'd still put the blower in to keep the outside flat. It's a pretty large box and 6-8in of room could be spared.
Nice build to see. Thanks. I must look over your other videos again. I thought I recalled you concluding that flat blades were better than curved ones. Have to look again.
Really like that idea of using a screw in the keyway! I was wondering how you were going to lock a wood piece to the shaft and that's a great solution.
If you go back and watch most of his videos, this seems to be his go-to solution, so I bet its effective. Seems to be easy and cheap to implement as well.
A hex socket grub screw would be even better as load is spread all along the flat on the shaft. Even better make a steel bush to fit the shaft. Drill and tap 50:50 across the joint line (Dutch dowel). When you fit the wooden rotor the grub screw can cut its own thread into the wood.
@@elDoober I have taken that idea from him and used it in a project. I can vouch for its effectiveness! I really like how easy it makes taking off whatever it's securing.
That ever increasing curve is called an involute. If you unwind a piece of string around a cylinder then the locus of the end of the string creates an involute.... Great job! Thanks very much.
It’s projects like this that initially got me into woodworking. Of course you can purchase a product that accomplishes this but it’s much more fun to build it and watch it come together.
I have that same ryobi router. lasted me almost 20 years. Every time I see a vid of someone installing their big dust collection systems I think about the various purpose built ones you've built. One day I'll attempt one myself.
Very cool idea I may very soon incorporate into my own router table. I was thinking a small burlap bag cinched around the port would allow the chips to get sucked into the bag instead of the bottom of the table. Maybe? I have a friend who is a scrapper and has a ton (or two literally) in his collection yard of dishwashers, refrigerators and all manner of old equipment ripe to be re-purposed.
That's a great idea. Some slots near the edges of the top could provide additional downdraft dust collection for anything that shoots past the main opening when the fence isn't as close.
The format in which you present your videos is perfect. There's so many people out there that may very well be smarter and with better designs, but nobody cares because they don't take the time in editing to clean and simplify their videos like you do. Your videos allow people to actually get to a working feature that makes all future projects safer, less messy, and more professional. Thank you for what you do.
Wow!! This is the first of your videos I’ve seen, you sir have won my sub amd viewership! I can’t wait to check out more of your videos and try this for myself. I’m an appliance repairmen by trade so I have plenty of small motors and whatnot laying around, I may have to try this someday!!
I never stop to amaze myself watching you create these tools...big Quebec fan Mathias! I dream the day I have the room in my garage to make YOUR tools. And BTW, how many dust collection units do you have? That’s a lot of motors! Anyway love your ingenuity.
It’s probably one of the best router table I have ever seen, I did mine in a much simpler way using a car jack (aka crick depending how you call it :)). I have a wooden home made top, which I fished with oil (possible mistake) and a fence with a hole that is probably too big. The overall experience isn’t great, the work piece sometimes is hard to push, sometimes is too quick (plywood should be similar). Adjusting the fence is hard and without a feather is almost unusable...🤔 I’m using an Heinell router (not a trimmer), I was not confident nor precise using it by hand and I continue to struggle when it’s mounted on the table saw.. 🤗
A paddle blade fan can be sat in the dirty air stream giving maximum suction where it’s needed while forcing air through the cyclone maximises it’s separation effect.
Building by eye and design as you go is my favorite style. This is more dangerous and results in more small injuries. Also common in small boat building.
Is there any real need for spiral shaped blower housings? In my Opinion these housings are only necessary if you need a fast laminar stream from the blower. When only sucction is needed a plug fan like construction should be fine.
Have you considered adding a box in the bottom to catch sawdust, and weather striping to seal the air gaps between the table and case? Going to check out hose blower build videos. Thanks!
You are amazing, the expertise in what you do makes me afraid to build anything because after watching you build i would be fat checking more than completing my projects. Thank you for sharing ( Stay Safe ) .
Very impressive amount of work there. The final product must be satisfying. I just clamp my cheap Ridgid vac to a fence I made to hold the vacuum tube from above or below, depending on which way the debris flies off.
Not talking to Matthias in particular, just to anyone reading... If you can help it, deburr anything you're working on, whenever possible and as frequently as possible. Metal, wood, glass, anything. If it has a burr or sharp edge, knock it off, if you can. One slip and you can cut an artery, tendon, etc. Very easy to cut and takes a lot of time to recover from (if you get the chance, in the case of a vital). Plus, your end product will look nicer if it doesn't have blood all over it.
Some of us are into burrfection. I am still honing my burr raising skills myself. Getting just the right hook on a card scraper can be quite sublime though.
dimensions of the fan are great (low depth/high width) as all the commercially made ones such as the 2 in a standard portable AC unit are high depth/medium width and no way would approach that compactness
Outstanding. I’m thinking about going through you old videos to build one. There’s just nothing decent out there with old going to professional level equipment.
Larry Mazzuca few years back he invented the "Pantarouter" could have probably made millions on the patent for it, but instead gave it to the woodworking community for free... and even though there is a company that makes a metal one now...they still came to him after to make sure it was good. and that panta router is an innovation like you would NOT believe for dovetails, and other router work
I’ve been subscribed for years and have got to say that your video quality continues to be amazing. Im surprised you don’t use scrap sheet metal for any of your housing’s for your dust collection. I’m also surprised you don’t make gears out of melted down milk jugs.
The housing of the blower "volute" has these small gaps in it between the pieces. I wonder if that causes some vortexes and turbulence. Maybe taping over them or filling them with glue and sanding them smooth would help airflow and reduce noise. Probably wouldn't help much.
I started out with a downdraft collection box on my router table, but concern for the router itself had me abandoning that idea. Far better, imo, to draw the dust & chips through the fence aperture rather than through the router motor, and since I already have a high-velocity, high-volume dust collector for the whole shop, it made more sense to go that route. Not to take away anything from the ingenuity in this video…
I have a minimum of 3 nice motors just lying around. I can't stand the idea of throwing them out. There is a motor with a squirrel cage on it right now in my garbage that I just have to let go. It's from my old stove hood.
I have been watching this channel for something like 10 years now and I don't understand why I prefer watching people make stuff compared to doing it myself. I have the skills and tools to make things but I rarely do. I think I just prefer watching instead of participating. Weird but its really weird knowing I have watched almost every video on this channel.
Same thing here. I have just about a complete workshop. For me i start things and just never finish them. It's almost therapeutic watching these videos.
you should replace the small door on the first with some acrylic so you can look inside or make a small extenstion to your lift so you acn raise it easier from the side or from the top
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As a mechanical engineer, this was awesome to watch haha. the versatility that wood gives you in designing what you want, it's truly inspiring. Thanks!
For everything you went through, call Howmet and get some turbine vanes for efficiency.
Your earlier blower videos inspired me to make my own. I got a cheap 750 watt electric water pump for $25, lopped off the pump casting and pulled the impeller. I used a 3/4" piece of hardwood ply for the blade disc and routed 1/8" wide grooves 3/8 deep for the blades to glue into. The blades themselves I used some 1/8 Aluminum flat bar I bent curved using a wooden form. The motor spins at 3450, so I figured metal blades would be a better option for me. It's been working well for over a year so far.
love the dust collection videos, so educational
that was a glorious bump into it lol
It always feels like a treat when Matthias and John both post a new video to their channels on the same day.
I remember reading your website decades ago, it was a lot of fun reading about your projects back then.
I get really bad sneezing fits from wood dust which has caused me to abandon woodworking... these individual dust collectors might just give me one of my favorite hobbies back. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience on these videos!
Oak does that to me.
nose plug
There's a website belonging to a guy that wrote extensively on the subject (he was apparently extremely sensitive to wood dust). You might see if you can track down the website of that guy - it's way, way too paranoid about wood dust for most people, but it might just be perfect for your situation. The only clue I have for you is that the Wood Whisperer referenced his work when he was doing dust collection for his shop - I'd offer more but I haven't watched those videos in a couple years or so.
@@UberAlphaSirus oak makes me thirsty. It smells like beer when I cut it.
You shouldn't, you probably aren't sensitive to all types of wood.
It really shows how much experience you have when you build something like this, Matthias! It's simple in principle, but all the parts interact with each other in complex ways and you intimately understand how they work.
I was wondering how you picked the radius on the fins, and found in your article "I arbitrarily picked the radius for the blades to what seems intuitively right. I want the outer tips of the blades to be near tangential to the circumference and the inner end to be near radial." I liked the near tangetial, and near radial advice.
Thanks. I was going to ask that. Now I'll go back and read the article.
Every single router table should come with this design option. And every other tool where it can be applied. Genius.
Some of the shop details are works of genius. I'll never work the same again.
Another nice build Matthias! The enclosed base of my tilting router lift is cleared by an external dust collector. This works quite well too but I found that the negative pressure as well as chip build up in the router's cooling vents caused the router to get hotter than normal under longer use. I solved this by hooking up a 4 in. flexible plastic dryer hose to the router's cap and porting it to a vent hole in the cabinet. Cool clean air is able to more freely pass through the router and this seemed to solve the problem.
8:22 is one good use of those multitools you've previously said you never found much use for. It takes a steady hand to do well, I think I might get better results with one than a jig saw. But it's also way louder and takes way longer.
That project was so well thought out. The last part about being an out feed table was awesome. Way to go!!!
Great to have you back doing projects Matthias
Love it when Matthias still keeps upgrading and updating and making tools... 😲😲. Always a great joy.
This reminds me of that air raid siren you made all that time ago. You should totally make another one!
I'm sure the neighbors won't mind 😅
😁
His smartphone already has an alarm clock.
@@spinningchurro so he has to make a smartphone controlled air raid siren to use as an alarm clock?
Yes! But bigger!
Great video. One thing though... It is understood that inside the cabinet is the dust bin, but I'd still put the blower in to keep the outside flat. It's a pretty large box and 6-8in of room could be spared.
9:14 Impressive zero-clearance insert, held in with a piece of paper.
paper? That's 0.004 fibrous shim stock!
@@52Ford I mean, it's basically super-thin particle board, right?
Nice build to see. Thanks.
I must look over your other videos again. I thought I recalled you concluding that flat blades were better than curved ones. Have to look again.
Once again Mathias, AWESOME!!!!! Oh, and LOVED the quick fix of the biscuits for the ledge to hold the insert! GREAT on the fly idea!!
Its been about 2 years since RUclips suggested one of your videos.
nice to see you again.
Really like that idea of using a screw in the keyway! I was wondering how you were going to lock a wood piece to the shaft and that's a great solution.
If you go back and watch most of his videos, this seems to be his go-to solution, so I bet its effective. Seems to be easy and cheap to implement as well.
A hex socket grub screw would be even better as load is spread all along the flat on the shaft. Even better make a steel bush to fit the shaft. Drill and tap 50:50 across the joint line (Dutch dowel). When you fit the wooden rotor the grub screw can cut its own thread into the wood.
@@elDoober I have taken that idea from him and used it in a project. I can vouch for its effectiveness! I really like how easy it makes taking off whatever it's securing.
I wonder why not an actual key. You can buy an entire key rod from home depot or online for cheap and cut off what you need.
@@onjofilms why go buy something when he has 1 milion screws?
I'm definitely not a wood worker and I genuinely enjoy watching videos from this channel. This is amazing content! Subscriber earned!
That ever increasing curve is called an involute. If you unwind a piece of string around a cylinder then the locus of the end of the string creates an involute.... Great job! Thanks very much.
Your love of dust collector is great, that's an understatement.
Yea yours and john heinz ingenuity is on another level. Good stuff
Very clever design. Love the versatility.
It’s projects like this that initially got me into woodworking. Of course you can purchase a product that accomplishes this but it’s much more fun to build it and watch it come together.
I have that same ryobi router. lasted me almost 20 years.
Every time I see a vid of someone installing their big dust collection systems I think about the various purpose built ones you've built. One day I'll attempt one myself.
Impressive and so thorough. You are truly skilled and meticulous.
I'm really liking that V-notch drill bit verticalizer. 7:11
Very cool idea I may very soon incorporate into my own router table. I was thinking a small burlap bag cinched around the port would allow the chips to get sucked into the bag instead of the bottom of the table. Maybe? I have a friend who is a scrapper and has a ton (or two literally) in his collection yard of dishwashers, refrigerators and all manner of old equipment ripe to be re-purposed.
That's a great idea. Some slots near the edges of the top could provide additional downdraft dust collection for anything that shoots past the main opening when the fence isn't as close.
So simple but so elaborate. You have to love a Matthias Wandel project!
Regards,
Etna.
When you first showed the numbers and suction of the blower I thought it seemed low, but then at the end it seems to nicely do the job!
cause it doesn't need to suck through a bunch of ducts and hoses, and no cyclone.
This channel never gets old!
This was very informative and sparked my enthusiasm to try and build a dustcollector
Have fun. They can use so much less power and be so much more quieter. You will lose pressure with lower speed and bigger impeller. Still worth it.
I'm always impressed just how precise you can be freehand, I guess that's what you get with so much experience.
Your the Einstein of woodworking sir matthias, greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭
You sir are a genius. Your creativity is smart and cool. Thanks for sharing.
The format in which you present your videos is perfect. There's so many people out there that may very well be smarter and with better designs, but nobody cares because they don't take the time in editing to clean and simplify their videos like you do. Your videos allow people to actually get to a working feature that makes all future projects safer, less messy, and more professional. Thank you for what you do.
All the big ideals started from little ideals like this. Love it, thanks for sharing
Great idea. Have been using your router lift for many years.
My favorite Blowers has forward-curved fan blades for higher static pressure.
Great idea. I'd tried dust extraction on my router table but this looks to be much more effective than what I achieved.
My idea of dust extraction is a bench brush.
A perfect mix of genius and clumsiness. Very educational and entertaining..
Wow!! This is the first of your videos I’ve seen, you sir have won my sub amd viewership! I can’t wait to check out more of your videos and try this for myself. I’m an appliance repairmen by trade so I have plenty of small motors and whatnot laying around, I may have to try this someday!!
I never stop to amaze myself watching you create these tools...big Quebec fan Mathias! I dream the day I have the room in my garage to make YOUR tools. And BTW, how many dust collection units do you have? That’s a lot of motors! Anyway love your ingenuity.
It’s probably one of the best router table I have ever seen, I did mine in a much simpler way using a car jack (aka crick depending how you call it :)). I have a wooden home made top, which I fished with oil (possible mistake) and a fence with a hole that is probably too big. The overall experience isn’t great, the work piece sometimes is hard to push, sometimes is too quick (plywood should be similar). Adjusting the fence is hard and without a feather is almost unusable...🤔 I’m using an Heinell router (not a trimmer), I was not confident nor precise using it by hand and I continue to struggle when it’s mounted on the table saw.. 🤗
A paddle blade fan can be sat in the dirty air stream giving maximum suction where it’s needed while forcing air through the cyclone maximises it’s separation effect.
You always challenge me to take on projects I would usually pass by. Keep them coming.
I wonder if you can use the same shaft for the blower and spindle? 1 motor and a shaft, possibly an inline gearbox?
Wire you really love your dust collectors. Good job. I am not there yet. Wonders
That you should patent. That is a very fine prototype to finesse.
Building by eye and design as you go is my favorite style. This is more dangerous and results in more small injuries. Also common in small boat building.
Is there any real need for spiral shaped blower housings?
In my Opinion these housings are only necessary if you need a fast laminar stream from the blower.
When only sucction is needed a plug fan like construction should be fine.
Have you considered adding a box in the bottom to catch sawdust, and weather striping to seal the air gaps between the table and case? Going to check out hose blower build videos. Thanks!
I'll never have the skill or creativity to do the type of things Mathias can do!
That one magic screw makes it all work. Great design and build!
Using the screw heads as markers like that is really clever!
This is the type of video that caused me to subscribe. Thanks and appreciate the humor and reality of mistakes.
You are amazing, the expertise in what you do makes me afraid to build anything because after watching you build i would be fat checking more than completing my projects. Thank you for sharing ( Stay Safe ) .
How is literally every single one of your videos a banger?
Very impressive amount of work there. The final product must be satisfying.
I just clamp my cheap Ridgid vac to a fence I made to hold the vacuum tube from above or below, depending on which way the debris flies off.
Wow. Some really inventive problem solving there.
This is a lot tidier than my strategy of occasionally firing up the leaf blower and blasting out the garage.
But our solution works fairly well if I do say so myself!
Move to Oklahoma and get a shop with a door on either end. Open both doors and the wind will take care of the rest. Works for me, anyway.
That can be very satisfying. But in a basement, where you don't want everything covered in dust, not the best method.
Impellers aren't just easy to lay out, they're also the choice for fans that have to create pressure. Much harder for axial fans.
Nice job!
You’re videos are always a great watch, this one was so clever! I would never have thought of integrating the fan into the table like that!
Wonderful design. Very thoughtful
Not talking to Matthias in particular, just to anyone reading... If you can help it, deburr anything you're working on, whenever possible and as frequently as possible. Metal, wood, glass, anything. If it has a burr or sharp edge, knock it off, if you can. One slip and you can cut an artery, tendon, etc. Very easy to cut and takes a lot of time to recover from (if you get the chance, in the case of a vital). Plus, your end product will look nicer if it doesn't have blood all over it.
Some of us are into burrfection. I am still honing my burr raising skills myself. Getting just the right hook on a card scraper can be quite sublime though.
Incredibly effective, nice work.
This dude's skill set is amazing!!!
dimensions of the fan are great (low depth/high width) as all the commercially made ones such as the 2 in a standard portable AC unit are high depth/medium width and no way would approach that compactness
Amazing how well your dust control trol works. Routers are the worst. Love your videos.
Outstanding. I’m thinking about going through you old videos to build one. There’s just nothing decent out there with old going to professional level equipment.
Enjoyable video, I like the way you explain everything.
I wish I had your patience and skills, I would've saved a fortune !!
Good job !!
9:00 That is actually much smarter then a ledge all the way round. Easier to make and dust won't accumulate on those tabs!
Wow ..... cosmas is here ....
This young man is a genius . I love his immagination .
Larry Mazzuca few years back he invented the "Pantarouter" could have probably made millions on the patent for it, but instead gave it to the woodworking community for free... and even though there is a company that makes a metal one now...they still came to him after to make sure it was good.
and that panta router is an innovation like you would NOT believe for dovetails, and other router work
Matthias, fantastic work as always. your work never ceases to impress. keep up the good work!
Sets something down and instantly trips over it. My wife is convinced I am the only one on earth who does that. Thank you for including that.
You make the coolest stuff. Thank you for making videos for all these years!
Super glue is really good on cuts (and burns). Bleeding stops instantly, as does the pain. I’ve used if for years. . . .
It’s good to see you making videos again. Keep it up!
I’ve been subscribed for years and have got to say that your video quality continues to be amazing. Im surprised you don’t use scrap sheet metal for any of your housing’s for your dust collection. I’m also surprised you don’t make gears out of melted down milk jugs.
Matthias is only a wood elf. I think he's allergic to other materials.
Such a clever bloke.
one of those videos which reminds us why we are subbed to this channel
The housing of the blower "volute" has these small gaps in it between the pieces. I wonder if that causes some vortexes and turbulence. Maybe taping over them or filling them with glue and sanding them smooth would help airflow and reduce noise. Probably wouldn't help much.
they are glued.
I started out with a downdraft collection box on my router table, but concern for the router itself had me abandoning that idea. Far better, imo, to draw the dust & chips through the fence aperture rather than through the router motor, and since I already have a high-velocity, high-volume dust collector for the whole shop, it made more sense to go that route. Not to take away anything from the ingenuity in this video…
Man i missed these types of videos!!
I'm so glad I found this. Instantly addicted
Please do a video on how you finish plywood surfaces? Seems very nice.
Great build! Thanks, Matthias.
Your dust collection videos have me hoarding motors.
Same.
I have a minimum of 3 nice motors just lying around. I can't stand the idea of throwing them out. There is a motor with a squirrel cage on it right now in my garbage that I just have to let go. It's from my old stove hood.
me either..
I have been watching this channel for something like 10 years now and I don't understand why I prefer watching people make stuff compared to doing it myself. I have the skills and tools to make things but I rarely do. I think I just prefer watching instead of participating. Weird but its really weird knowing I have watched almost every video on this channel.
its a lot less work to watch!
Same thing here. I have just about a complete workshop. For me i start things and just never finish them. It's almost therapeutic watching these videos.
After a long day working and solving problems, I too enjoy watching someone else work and solve problems. It's a sickness!
You never fail to impress.
So much ideas to translate in my workshop, really thank you for your knowledge sharing. This one and many others 😉.
Finally another blower video. Thank you , nice job
you should replace the small door on the first with some acrylic so you can look inside or make a small extenstion to your lift so you acn raise it easier from the side or from the top
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.