Great video man. I actually did a video showing the backpressure difference of the SCI SIX, WB and ODB compared to unsuppressed on my 12.5 mid gas with RifleSpeed gas block to see what setting was needed to achieve lock back. Unsuppressed was setting 10, SCI SIX was setting 4, WB was setting 7 and ODB was setting 9. The level of backpressure reduction without sacrificing muzzle suppression is insane with these things.
@@PatternRecognizer I love it. it’s my main squeeze and I’m on my 2nd barrel with it. I’ve taken it to lots of classes and range days and it’s been extremely reliable and it runs like a race horse.
@@Kenposhinobi awesome man, good to hear. Keyboard warriors say it could be unreliable but good to hear direct feedback. Got a Sionics 12.5 mid coming today in fact.
Can you look into grabbing the new b&t srbs can and maybe the b&t rotex k? They look promising and I’m interested in maybe grabbing one but there’s no reviews on them yet.
Did i hear correct in you saying you have the SCI welded on a 10.5? Im building an 11.5 mid and would love to weld it if i can to make a rifle instead of a SBR. did you just spot weld the back of the can I didnt think the suppressor supported being welded for some reason.
Quick question I know how suppressors work I know you can’t really make 556 quite but out of all the cans you have shot which can sounds the quietest to your ear in the dessert I have a rc2 and a radiant 762 and in the process of getting a otter creek polonium
Im debating on the cat wb or the polonium full size or k. I have two hux cans and like them.but i want something a little quieter for home defense. Something with less concussion in doors
Yes. I have a Rearden mount on my 300 bo and it is one of the best attachment methods...No gas leaking around the mount and no carbon lock. I own a Surefire can as well and carbon lock is an issue with it if you don't take preventative measures.
@quiettime6871 They're both great but can't be compared. The polonium and K are wonderful for bag guns IMO. I carry one or the other every day with my backpack setup. My WB is still in jail but I've shot it at my dealers backyard range enough to know it's going on my "main" rifle when I get it. The closest comparison for sound to the Wb is the Lpm anthem s actually for anything over 12.5 that I've tried. The anthem s is so good i have 3 of them.
@@DDadams0 good description. I want the wb or odb on guns im shooting the most. Lower back pressure and very good tone. The polo and k are also awesome but they are definitely a bit spicier back pressure wise compared to the cat cans having shot then back to back. But hey they’re both a noticeable improvement over my sandman s and rc2 haha 🤷🏻♂️
Protect your ears boys, I got some kind of cold/flu/plague in July of last year and decided not to go to the doctor until a week into it when my ear started hurting extremely bad like 8/10 and ruptured at 2am and its still not healed yet and it messes you up in so many ways other than hearing. The first month I had bloody fluid constantly draining out my ear so I had to keep cotton or tissue in there and for like 2 months my balance was terrible on and off to the point that I couldn't walk straight to save my life and I had to keep my head perfectly still to drive otherwise it would turn into the worse drunk feeling and I'd have to pull over. All of that is still going on to some extent and hits me randomly like I'll realize I'm driving bad or walking like I'm drunk or walk into something. Its just weird and hard to explain. Anyway it sucks crusty azz so yeah wear ear pro
Watching you fire the WB and SCI SIX in this video the CGS sounded noticeably quieter than the CAT but what did you think actually there shooting them which is quieter???
@@fortknoxpodcast I have had mine for a couple of weeks now. It did not disappoint. The full size and K have become my favorite 5.56 cans. Waiting to get my hands on the WB.
Does anyone know if there’s other muzzle devices being made for the sci-six (I haven’t watched the whole video yet don’t clown me if it’s mentioned in here)
That's because the WB has significantly less backpressure than the Sci Six so more of that gas is pushed out the muzzle. Looking at the pew science numbers the WB actually outranks the Sci Six at both the muzzle (not much) and ear Having shot both in person the WB is quieter as a shooter, has noticeably less back pressure, and a pleasant low boomy and thumpy tone. The sci six does sound less boomy and better as a bystander (probably due to muzzle design and how it doesn't vent as much as the WB)
@@ojsimpsonofficial I paid retail for these from Boise black rifle. Also I’m not a shill for either of these companies. If you want a sci six I have 2 BNIB I’ll sell you them cheap.
@@fortknoxpodcast Im only in the market for a CAT wb that’s not titanium.. now if you want me to pay so I can lick some honey out of your beard im down for that
Awesome content dude, you should do more videos showing the different rifle setups, that spear lt is looking good! Also finally got my sci six back from cgs. Thanks for the help man it was great!
@@kspeacekeeper7894 they had it in and out in less than a week, I think from the time I shipped it to them to the time I got it back was 4 business days.
The heat issues with the wb were a concern for me. After seeing this video, I’m glad I went a different route for 5.56, but man that ODB sounds good for .300blk
@@fortknoxpodcast oh I don't have it in my sweaty palms, just yet. I happened to be in an early morning burpee session when I got a restock notification creating a mad dash to secure the hype . I feel like I won something . Dig the channel ,appreciate the hustle ..
This is where the industry should merge on naming conventions flow thru ~vs~ surge by pass. I believe data node that would matter for collection is gas tube length, piston, chamber [dwell time] lock unlock times (viewed bolt bounce) , chamber pressures up to unlock / extraction , which hey I’m pretty confident Pew Science collects 💥 homies the data don’t lie!
Here is where the data doesn’t matter. 98% of guys don’t care. They want to know if it works when it goes in their gun and is it going to take 12 months to get it fixed if I break it.
@@fortknoxpodcast wait times are wait times 🤷🏽♂️ and agree money you pay, I pay, the consumer pays we all want it to [perform] as advertised. I had my Serria 5 moment/and the company made me whole. More people care about the data everyday - I was around when companies would use ablative to mitigate first round pop and reduce sound signature db. And yep sound good to the ear but it was a lie - it was artificial - it was induced. No what don’t lie [data] 😉 no what else don’t lie a metric that allows comparison, contrast, and validation of previous mentioned & collection data 😃 #Science and I nerd out. Why? Because any company who allows rigorous testing to a standard (no) welcomes rigorous testing has my attention (and it should to you and any other consumer) as best idea / performance should win. I’m here for the innovation and best bang for my buck 🍿 cuz that kind of competition means we all win 🏆 - we get what is advertised (and then some).
@@fortknoxpodcast Hey man!! Can you make a video showing the out of spec mount versus the one that works with the SCI SIX? I got approved yesterday and I now own it. If you could show the good and bad side-by-side, it would help me and anyone else who owns this can to watch out and not get a baffle strike or injury. Thank you for reading this, Keek.
legitimate question/comment/concern... First let me get this out of the way, thanks for doing these videos, its cool you take time to try and show off stuff to us. It is always helpful when a somewhat neutral party can compare and contrast a wide range of things many of us cant even see at 4 local gun stores. HOWEVER, and a big however here. what the fuck is with this format? the audio is normalized they literally all sound exactly the same to us. Obviously you aren't pew science so im not asking for liek graphs and charts, but is there any way you can make this content more useful to us? idk something to think about.
That’s the issue with shooting audio with camera gear…. I say it a lot. You gotta hear shit in person , I know that’s not helpful what so ever. Sorry dude.
You using the regular vented cap from CGS? I thought I heard they were making a cap specific one for the SCI. I've wanted to get a cap for it but didn't know if I should wait
@@ChrisBritton3476 Pics I had seen of Sci Six specific ported cap, resemble CAT at the muzzle end. Who knows if or when CGS will release it though. I grabbed the ported one they currently have available for now.
I just got this can yesterday as the RC2 was not available for months, if mine does that, I am going to call customer service and demand a replacement mount.
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"The People's Champ", Glorious!! 🤣 Thanks for a fair review Corey, appreciate you taking the time and spending the ammo.
I hope you don't quit the can talk videos! Super useful for those of us who don't have the funds to buy every new one that comes out.
100% agree
Great video man. I actually did a video showing the backpressure difference of the SCI SIX, WB and ODB compared to unsuppressed on my 12.5 mid gas with RifleSpeed gas block to see what setting was needed to achieve lock back. Unsuppressed was setting 10, SCI SIX was setting 4, WB was setting 7 and ODB was setting 9. The level of backpressure reduction without sacrificing muzzle suppression is insane with these things.
I'm about to build a 12.5 mid with a Riflespeed block, do you like that setup? Will be running traditional baffle cans on it.
@@PatternRecognizer I love it. it’s my main squeeze and I’m on my 2nd barrel with it. I’ve taken it to lots of classes and range days and it’s been extremely reliable and it runs like a race horse.
@@Kenposhinobi awesome man, good to hear. Keyboard warriors say it could be unreliable but good to hear direct feedback. Got a Sionics 12.5 mid coming today in fact.
Can you look into grabbing the new b&t srbs can and maybe the b&t rotex k? They look promising and I’m interested in maybe grabbing one but there’s no reviews on them yet.
Did i hear correct in you saying you have the SCI welded on a 10.5? Im building an 11.5 mid and would love to weld it if i can to make a rifle instead of a SBR. did you just spot weld the back of the can I didnt think the suppressor supported being welded for some reason.
Probably an aftermarket muzzle device. Can’t pin the Cgs factory. Check noveske new pig muzzle or the cobalt muzzle device to pin it
Got a CAT-ODB for my 21st birthday. Absolutely love it for my 5.56 gun.
Quick question I know how suppressors work I know you can’t really make 556 quite but out of all the cans you have shot which can sounds the quietest to your ear in the dessert I have a rc2 and a radiant 762 and in the process of getting a otter creek polonium
i love how the psa 10.5 is still being ran. its bad ass.
Im debating on the cat wb or the polonium full size or k. I have two hux cans and like them.but i want something a little quieter for home defense. Something with less concussion in doors
What muzzle device and suppressor mount do u have on the wb cat
How does the WB 718’s back pressure compare to the RC3’s - which has more back pressure? Thanks
When do you thinl the new cappuccino bag will drop? Love that color way more than the others
New to the suppressor game. He is using a Reardon Atlas adapter and a Reardon FHD muzzle device right?
Yes. I have a Rearden mount on my 300 bo and it is one of the best attachment methods...No gas leaking around the mount and no carbon lock. I own a Surefire can as well and carbon lock is an issue with it if you don't take preventative measures.
I bought two CAT cans so that’s my personality now. I defend them daily on nfa reddit 😂
The only reason I went with a ocl polo k over a wb is the company differences.
@@cornfedchris58 both are good. I wanted to try something flow through and have been very happy with the cat cans. Velos is probably pretty comparable
Waiting on a Polo K and a WB. Will see which personality I become.....
@quiettime6871 They're both great but can't be compared.
The polonium and K are wonderful for bag guns IMO. I carry one or the other every day with my backpack setup. My WB is still in jail but I've shot it at my dealers backyard range enough to know it's going on my "main" rifle when I get it. The closest comparison for sound to the Wb is the Lpm anthem s actually for anything over 12.5 that I've tried. The anthem s is so good i have 3 of them.
@@DDadams0 good description. I want the wb or odb on guns im shooting the most. Lower back pressure and very good tone. The polo and k are also awesome but they are definitely a bit spicier back pressure wise compared to the cat cans having shot then back to back. But hey they’re both a noticeable improvement over my sandman s and rc2 haha 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to those new overpass colors. You running TEP-100/200/300 on the 3Ms?
Have both 200’s and 300’s. Both work wonders
Protect your ears boys, I got some kind of cold/flu/plague in July of last year and decided not to go to the doctor until a week into it when my ear started hurting extremely bad like 8/10 and ruptured at 2am and its still not healed yet and it messes you up in so many ways other than hearing. The first month I had bloody fluid constantly draining out my ear so I had to keep cotton or tissue in there and for like 2 months my balance was terrible on and off to the point that I couldn't walk straight to save my life and I had to keep my head perfectly still to drive otherwise it would turn into the worse drunk feeling and I'd have to pull over. All of that is still going on to some extent and hits me randomly like I'll realize I'm driving bad or walking like I'm drunk or walk into something. Its just weird and hard to explain. Anyway it sucks crusty azz so yeah wear ear pro
Not a can aficionado by any means, have a few of them, the CGS SCI-SIX is by far my favorite. Really want a WB as well, they seem very similar.
I feel validated on my SCI SIX purchase now.
💀💀💀💀
Hey! I got mine yesterday, I am going to test for rattling off by shooting 5 or 10 rounds through it.
Wish me luck!
Whats your zeroes for 300 BLK rifles?
this video, made me feel….feelings😮💨
What’s more quieter the sci six or the wb ?
Thanks for these video I’m going back and forth on sic and wb 718 for 11.5
The problem with the wb 718 seems to be availability
Another great video man. Thanks for the can chat!! Hope you are doing well and having a great week so far.
Watching you fire the WB and SCI SIX in this video the CGS sounded noticeably quieter than the CAT but what did you think actually there shooting them which is quieter???
The WB
Could be that the sci six was actually louder and was clipping the audio
@@joeymedina7115 yes
RUclips videos, for so many reasons, are basically worthless for silencer sound comparison.
@@ToastbackWhale this
Corey skips leg day
That’s a bold face lie!
Really happy with my odb on 308 and 6.5, does well with 556 too.
Whats the rearden mount configuration?
The ODB or the JL is next on my list
Gonna get your hands on a silencerco velos 556k? I am curious about it and thinking of getting one for my home defense MK18
I am waiting for it. In fact I should have one very shortly
@@fortknoxpodcast I have had mine for a couple of weeks now. It did not disappoint. The full size and K have become my favorite 5.56 cans. Waiting to get my hands on the WB.
Do you like the WB or Velos more?
@@shadowsteel11 velos for my style of shooting. The WB is a banger. But not gonna be the best for MG fire … in my experience.
Corey, without re-watching all of your videos, in your opinion, what is the best all around 556 can on the market?
Does anyone know if there’s other muzzle devices being made for the sci-six (I haven’t watched the whole video yet don’t clown me if it’s mentioned in here)
Noveske does, and I believe Cobalt Kinetics may as well.
Was going to buy a SCI-SIX but I went with the RC2 but my next purchase will be SCI-SIX the Cat-WB
Knew it. CAT gang
Is that the Q BCG?
When shooting from the van, that SCI SIX Sounds so much better --> CAT (at 9:35) vs SCI SIX (at 10:00)
That's because the WB has significantly less backpressure than the Sci Six so more of that gas is pushed out the muzzle.
Looking at the pew science numbers the WB actually outranks the Sci Six at both the muzzle (not much) and ear
Having shot both in person the WB is quieter as a shooter, has noticeably less back pressure, and a pleasant low boomy and thumpy tone. The sci six does sound less boomy and better as a bystander (probably due to muzzle design and how it doesn't vent as much as the WB)
Definitely debating whether or not to replace my Sandman S Mil with either of these two or the SiCo Velos
WB is lighter, Velos is slightly better with gas
Velos is sweet dude, now they have a k version as well, might get that one next.
what material was the WB?
Probably Ti considering how quickly it got hot, cools off pretty quick tho
@@darthdavid2275inconel
@@darthdavid2275 their inconel is very thin so it heats up fast as well. But he said Inconel
@@fortknoxpodcast appreciate you and your content
@@Ka14161820 thanks for the support
Oooooo!!!! I love shits and gigs!!!
Hell nah. Don’t stop doing these.
Whats the rail on the gun with the eotech
Squid . hasn't released yet, it's my R&D rail
@@fortknoxpodcast oh neat. thanks for the reply
Love these vids
giving the people what they want
we want more rc3 content
@@zohairnaqvi9734rooftop Defence has a really good RC3 video, night vision, low light, and he put it on a SAW
That ejection pattern is 🤌🏼🤌🏼
Thanks for the updates boss
Sci for the win
Bought a Surefire mini because it’s gods chosen
It’s his word against ours.
Just don't run a Warcomp
Out of stock for the common man. I guess I need to start shilling and reviewing to get my hands on the good stuff
Silencer Shop just had a backorder over run of Sci-Six, WB ti and ODB ti. Shop harder.
@@austinmegusta Ti is in stock on silencer shop because a lot of people don’t want a slow firing schedule on 556. I shop the hardest, queen 💅
@@ojsimpsonofficial I paid retail for these from Boise black rifle.
Also I’m not a shill for either of these companies. If you want a sci six I have 2
BNIB I’ll sell you them cheap.
@@fortknoxpodcast Im only in the market for a CAT wb that’s not titanium.. now if you want me to pay so I can lick some honey out of your beard im down for that
@@fortknoxpodcast I'll buy from you if you still selling the sci sixes
I'm a machinist and dream job is to work for a suppressor company
do some b&t with sf rolex.
Ear pro and safety squints
@@colbyc.6698 nobody out ranks safety
❤️🔥🤙🏻🇺🇸
Just ordered a velos k. Hoping to see you drop a video on it.
where did you find a velos k?? Everywhere I see is sold out. I need one asap!
@@kmor8613 Bauer precision. Went out of stock right after haha
@@ZeeeBruuuh Shit! thanks for the comment though. I got that e-mail notification waiting.
@@kmor8613 i hear you. i had multiple tabs opened from different sites. check them throughout the day. good luck getting one!
@@kmor8613 they had one on gunbroker yesterday, I almost picked it up. Might still be there.
Awesome content dude, you should do more videos showing the different rifle setups, that spear lt is looking good! Also finally got my sci six back from cgs. Thanks for the help man it was great!
How long did CGS have your Sci Six. They are swapping end caps on mine, so just curious.
@@kspeacekeeper7894 they had it in and out in less than a week, I think from the time I shipped it to them to the time I got it back was 4 business days.
Thanks for the info!
@@kspeacekeeper7894 anytime! Good luck!
I’m an idiot when buying cans (I own 2)
a mini2 and an OCM5
Now I just need to fill the middle.
FWIW, I have the RC2 and the MINI 2.. And the MINI 2 is now my go-to can.
The heat issues with the wb were a concern for me. After seeing this video, I’m glad I went a different route for 5.56, but man that ODB sounds good for .300blk
get a like just for the intro.
just meandering back around cuz I finally snagged the WB.
how do you like it?
@@fortknoxpodcast oh I don't have it in my sweaty palms, just yet. I happened to be in an early morning burpee session when I got a restock notification creating a mad dash to secure the hype . I feel like I won something . Dig the channel ,appreciate the hustle ..
The FRWD 🧢 🤌🏻🔥
🫡
when does the new fuckin cappuccino and fuckin cool gray bags come out?
Next week or two!
This is where the industry should merge on naming conventions flow thru ~vs~ surge by pass. I believe data node that would matter for collection is gas tube length, piston, chamber [dwell time] lock unlock times (viewed bolt bounce) , chamber pressures up to unlock / extraction , which hey I’m pretty confident Pew Science collects 💥 homies the data don’t lie!
Here is where the data doesn’t matter. 98% of guys don’t care. They want to know if it works when it goes in their gun and is it going to take 12 months to get it fixed if I break it.
@@fortknoxpodcast wait times are wait times 🤷🏽♂️ and agree money you pay, I pay, the consumer pays we all want it to [perform] as advertised. I had my Serria 5 moment/and the company made me whole.
More people care about the data everyday - I was around when companies would use ablative to mitigate first round pop and reduce sound signature db. And yep sound good to the ear but it was a lie - it was artificial - it was induced. No what don’t lie [data] 😉 no what else don’t lie a metric that allows comparison, contrast, and validation of previous mentioned & collection data 😃 #Science and I nerd out. Why? Because any company who allows rigorous testing to a standard (no) welcomes rigorous testing has my attention (and it should to you and any other consumer) as best idea / performance should win. I’m here for the innovation and best bang for my buck 🍿 cuz that kind of competition means we all win 🏆 - we get what is advertised (and then some).
Flow-through and surge bypass aren't really the exact same thing, even though they achieve similar results
@@fortknoxpodcast Hey man!! Can you make a video showing the out of spec mount versus the one that works with the SCI SIX? I got approved yesterday and I now own it.
If you could show the good and bad side-by-side, it would help me and anyone else who owns this can to watch out and not get a baffle strike or injury.
Thank you for reading this,
Keek.
legitimate question/comment/concern... First let me get this out of the way, thanks for doing these videos, its cool you take time to try and show off stuff to us. It is always helpful when a somewhat neutral party can compare and contrast a wide range of things many of us cant even see at 4 local gun stores. HOWEVER, and a big however here. what the fuck is with this format? the audio is normalized they literally all sound exactly the same to us. Obviously you aren't pew science so im not asking for liek graphs and charts, but is there any way you can make this content more useful to us? idk something to think about.
That’s the issue with shooting audio with camera gear…. I say it a lot. You gotta hear shit in person , I know that’s not helpful what so ever. Sorry dude.
You'd enjoy the sci six a lot more with the ported front cap
You using the regular vented cap from CGS? I thought I heard they were making a cap specific one for the SCI. I've wanted to get a cap for it but didn't know if I should wait
@@ChrisBritton3476 yes, its been available on their website since they released the sci six,
@@ChrisBritton3476 Pics I had seen of Sci Six specific ported cap, resemble CAT at the muzzle end. Who knows if or when CGS will release it though. I grabbed the ported one they currently have available for now.
I can vouch that 5.56 is very loud even with a can. Shot the dirt at 25 yards and it was not pleasant to the ears
Tactical life quiet riot is hearing safe. Granted not a lbp can. The wb is next on my menu tho
velos 556k plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This guy ever shut up.
Nope.
I love my sic-six can . Yeah it dose come lose from time to time but it’s super quiet I can shoot all dam day . I’m happy with my 1000$ can
I just got this can yesterday as the RC2 was not available for months, if mine does that, I am going to call customer service and demand a replacement mount.
I need a Van like that