I'm an old sci-fi nut, old, 71yrs old and I saw this at a Saturday morning, free ice cream movie theater. It's always been a favorite of mine. Even back in the 60s when I saw it ,I thought it was unfair to the girl. It impressed me with the vastness of the Krell! The scene where they walk through the halls with the power being displayed so off handedly was chilling. Robbie was a hero of sorts and kids would scream his name even when he appeard in other movies and TV shows. The robot from Lost In Space came close. Thanks for a trip down memory lane.
In 1958 an overwhelming number of the male audience were veterans and a lot of them had served in combat. As a means of making the characters and situations identifiable to the average audience member, the writing is designed to reflect the attitudes and behavior of men in the military. They basically want to get drunk nd screw.
A work of cinema can capture the _zeitgeist_ of the society and mores of its time, frozen in celluloid, _er,_ MP4 file format. _Real science fiction stuff!_
I do agree with the commentator that Leslie Nielsen’s character blames Alta for the horny reactions of his subordinates.He criticizes her for dressing in an alluring manner,not realizing that how a woman dresses isn’t the issue (rather,it’s up to the men to control themselves).
It borrows a lot from The Tempest, originally written in about 1610, including the overall plot. Our sci-fi draws a lot from Shakespeare. I thought the whole misogynistic take was rather foolish. It was written in a time when there was no concept of toxic masculinity. Even then the so called “misogyny” was rather obvious and made the sex starved Navy men seem foolish in their misguided attempts. Eew!
So was the Star Trek episode Requiem for methuselah". You can see many parallels between that episode and Forbidden Planet - including the inadvertent misogyny - once you know that.
@@synthpop1505 What a coincidence. So was I; for 19 years. Never needed to get in touch with my feminine side because of it though afaik. Retired nine years ago. Was actually a pretty good job, as I worked with much nicer people than the stiff types in the offices jobs I had for many years prior to that. Now *those* were stressful.
I liked your review, although I'll hope you'll forgive me if I found that your critique did not add anything new to what has already been ascribed to this film. I do not agree with the misogyny label, although there is sexism (and even this existed in many other films and genres of the era). The movie was marketed for 1950's audiences, and while we can retroactively denounce it, we should also acknowledge it in its historical context. As a fan of the movie, I read the novelization that has been released periodically following its premiere. It deviates slightly from the film, but one of the more interesting ideas had to do with the animals and Alta's alleged influence over them. In a scene not included in the screenplay, the command crew conducted covert surveillance of the Morbius compound. They find nothing but accidentally kill one of the monkeys on the property. Rather than have it found by Morbius, implying their unwanted presence, Dr. Ostrow takes it back to the ship and conducts a necropsy. The "animal" contains no internal organs that are consistent with primate evolution- they turn out to be projections of Morbius' subconscious and his parental duty to care for his daughter (the "animals" are her pets and companions). In light of this information, these creatures are subconsciously guided by Morbius and cannot hurt Alta because he does not wish harm upon his daughter. The animals are tame around her because of Morbius' influence, not hers, and hence the often cited allegory of the virgin and unicorn seems less prominent. This remains consistent with the latter part of film, as Morbius' control over his own personal kingdom is challenged and his id progressively lashes out at those who defy him (including Alta). I would also respectfully disagree with portions of your analysis regarding Alta as a character. It is true that she retains little agency throughout the film, but the limitations of her adulthood are the direct result of Morbius' parenting and his need to retain control. He even acknowledges this by commenting that he is obligated to bring her to Earth at some undefined point in the future for her development. While I do not condone the behavior of the crew towards treating her as an object, she remains socially awkward because of the confines created by Morbius. Ironically, she demonstrates a modicum of agency by the end of the film when she "rejects" her father in favor of Commander Adams (although one could argue that her choice is questionable). 🖖
@@thomasromanelli2561 I wholeheartedly agree. IForbidden Planet was a product of its times even at its worst, and really when you get right down to it what healthy young hetero males *don't* act like jerks like that even today? These guys haven't seen a woman in over a year; they've essentially been in space prison. Suddenly they're set free and see Alta. Personally *I* wouldn't act like a horndog, but maybe that is only because I am asexual and level-1 autistic. A healthy young hetero neuro-normal male with an average age of 23 (as pointed out in the film itself, though that seems like a way underestimate considering most of the male leads are definitely in their 30s by then) is imo more than likely to act in real life precisely how they are shown acting here in this movie; 21st century (or 23rd century in this case) social sensibilities be damned. And maybe, like the Fallout franchise that emulated on 1950s era movies like this, social sensitivities in the Forbidden Planet universe never evolved in the same way ours did.
Oh dear... You missed the film story's connection to Shakespeare. The movie is based on "The Tempest". Well, I hope you read this comment and add this significance to your "Forbidden Planet" lore base. In sooth, it is truth.
Thank you for the kind comments. You know i did have a line in the review about it being based on the Tempest, which also happens to be my favorite Shakespeare work. I ended up cutting it for time and that i didn't really go into it further then acknowledging it. I guess i should have left it in.
Yes , it is a masculine, and boys club movie. Not unlike a lot of the other B movies of its time. I can’t tell you how many movies I saw as a kid that treated women as stupid and naïve were thy are set up and ok with being sexualized. This being said, today’s standard, the behavior of the crew, and the father, and all the male characters is apprehensible
It's amazing awful to think about it. I have to say, "You've come a long way, baby, to get where you're going today. Not that the struggle is anywhere near over, but, those old films and shows testify to the far worse conditions of a half century plus ago.
Yes to Chris and yes to commenting intelligences. Great review and analysis... I've loved the movie since I was a kid in the 1960's... About the sexism. The enjoyment and study of film includes appreciation of "intended" content, and "unintended" content. The unconscious sexism in Forbidden Planet is unintended content that today's viewers can gain a real feeling for the level of sexism almost universal to the period of the movie from. Here is an indicator of how with mass enculturation even the disadvantaged women go along with the idea that these kind of relations are "natural".
@@ThatsASpaceStation It was in the german 'lustige Taschenbuch' series. Somewhere between issue 200 and 300, think. not sure, but the series seems to be called "Stories from Duckburg" in english.
I agree, no remake, especially if you want to modify it to not being so misogynistic. It was a movie of it's time and there is no need to update it accordingly. I feel the same way about such other classics as what was written by William Shakespeare.
@@JohnGunter_Johnprime You do know that this movie was in fact based on The Tempest by William Shakespeare, yes? If not, well... I love the irony. The source material though might explain the misogyny though, considering its age.
You seem like a personable man, but sometimes not knowing what you don't know, and this video illustrates this in spades. The superficiality of the analysis of the films tropes within the wider SF genre.
A misogynistic nightmare. Hm. I think you need to look up that word and reconsider your title. And BTW a few things. Did you not hear the captain explained the actions of his men. They didn't seem to be gay so I would have to say they would definitely be interested in a young beautiful woman. The time they arrive and Altair 4 is 17:01. That is the ID of the Starship Enterprise. And yes, that was intentional on Roddenberry's part. Also the guy playing doctor appears in a Star Trek episode. The spacecraft they arrive in, is C57D. In the film "Serenity" the crew of Serenity go to the planet Miranda. When they get to area where they find out about the Reavers, there is a crashed shuttle with that ID on it's side. Again intentional by Whedon. Homages seldom seen. As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.
Misogyny means "woman-hating." The C57D crew's behavior toward Ann Francis was what we now call "sexual harassment". Science fiction depicts future civilizations and alternate worlds, so it need not follow the cultural norms of the author's historical period and country. In fact, feminist science fiction started in the 1920s! During the '50s when Forbidden Planet was made, New Wave, LGBT, and Afrofuturist sci-fi began. All these influenced Star Trek's multicultural crew, Kirk's interracial sexual encounters, and social problem stories!
Thanks for an enjoyable review, but personally it grates a little to apply todays "values" to older films, in this case nearly 70 years old. Therefore if only my opinion your critique of mosogyny etc falls a little flat. Indeed compared to some of its contempory SF films by no means the worst offender - how many 50's ssfi films featured long legged women in high heels and short skirts posing as aliems and do not get me started on Star Trek. FP is rightly a classic SF film, one of a handful that had high production values, influencing much that followed and I feel that is why it deserves its enduring legacy
thks 4 vid. I think if the set of Morbious0s home was made an exihibit to visit, it would be very opular. the studio probably tore it down. recreate it, I say. ditto the Wizard of Oz main set! the micro-dvd, seen in the movie, will probably not happen, - everythng streamed. the holographic reproducer may? - holography concepts seen in the andromeda strain, name of the game -( LA, 2017), 2001(laser-scanned acrylic-like blocks in Hal's memory bank, which lke micro-wave food cookers, I-pads,videophone communication,flat panel tv screen airline sealts, cd face sgield and solar .power space.suit fittings, bow exist or are feasible.- 2001's are the two pivotal SF-space movies. - imaginative film-making.(Boeing's current Atarliner space suit desgns look like those in 2001) bravo. lucky Leslie and Jack, to appear opposite,cuddle & kiss the gorgeous Anne rancis.
I've heard of this movie so much but I never realized it was so... creepy. It sure didn't age well in most regards... I'd actually like to see this remade with modern sensibilities and done better justice on some of the other regards. Because, honestly, this does have some really cool ideas and themes. EDIT: I said that about 2 seconds before you said you also would like it remade lmao. Glad we think alike.
I know. But I think it's hard to pitch a movie that is about a spaceship crew investigating a deadly planet full of dangerous machinery left behind by a long dead super advanced race, and also there's a robot. Most execs would be like "oh so you want to remake Prometheus?"
The movie is better than the author of this video makes it sound though. Imo at least. I may be biased though as I was born at about the very same time the movie was released, and even remember being impressed as hell the first time I saw it just before Star Trek premiered when I was 10.
Forbidden Planet is still worth watching - the best demo of the Beasts of the Id!. You mention misogyny - but even in the most sophisticated city, meeting strangers dressed in a tiny bikini bottom would not be appreciated.The fault of course, was with her Dad. Besides his other problems, what Dad would dress his grown daughter like this?
She wore mini dresses, not a bikini. Since she was a grown woman, she could dress herself as she pleased. Realistically, a tomboy would dress like a boy. A young straight woman would be just as horny, meeting handsome astronauts in uniform after growing up with only one man, her father! 🤣🤓
I wouldn't say _Forbidden Planet_ is misogynistic. Just condescending toward women and a bit sexist. Typical of the 50s attitudes. Of course, they had to cast the young and gorgeous Anne Francis as Alta to accentuate the attraction, NOT to mention the nude bathing she does. Oh the sexual tension! IF you can ignore all that dated nonsense and concentrate on the main plot, this story is really superb. It would have been a sci-fi classic if it had been only in print. Then again, this is *loosely* based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest."
The movie is from an era when men were men and women were women......unlike, lets say 2023.....Hmmmm and resembles mans history for tens of thousands of years.
I'm more disturbed by people's refusal (like you) to distinguish between fantasy & reality. Next you'll bash "I love Lucy" or any other tv show or movie made in the last 80 years. History exists to be learned from. Respect it. Do not belittle it.
@@ThatsASpaceStation You're dismissing millions and millions of people across the West based on nothing more than a simple memetic internet label - 'Boomer'. That derisive label says nothing whatsoever about any individual member of said generation. That you believe you can automatically not respect an entire generation because of a silly label says more about you than them. They don't deserve respect, but nor do they deserve disrespect - the same as everyone in all the other generations - they're all individuals.
And just because something is new and full of soy boy simp like goodness, well you get the idea, oh and acting like this does not help you get laid, not even feminists respect that. And using your logic, the first amendment is old, so keep your thought to yourself, LOL.@@ThatsASpaceStation
In the interests of 70 years of social reforms that I helped cause since college in the '80s, I partly disagree with your nostalgia. I was born in the '60s, but I like '50s sci-fi. My nostalgia is limited to past art styles, classic cars, and classic rock, not retro hate speech. I liked "Forbidden Planet" for the ground-breaking special effects and sci-fi plot--and Ann Francis' dresses, good looks, and bare feet, not the crew's sexual harassment and the captain's victim-blaming, slut-shaming, and controlling behavior! 🤓
I don't think you even know what 'misogyny' is. You seem to get it confused with simple sexism. Add the ridiculous assertion that this movie was SOOO popular and influential that it singlehandedly is responsible for an epidemic of 'misogyny' in the 1960's and 1970's is so ahistorical and hysterical that I almost literally can't believe my ears. What a waste of time this video is : and that's even after agreeing with you that there is *gasp* sexism in this film. But there's no misogyny.
You just called a present-day movie review of a '50s science fiction movie that was set in the far future, "ahistorical," He only says it showed 1950s misogyny and sexism, which mean roughly the same thing. It showed men verbally abusing a woman.
The movie is only creepy to those who have bought into the Marxist feminist cool aid for decades. But it's not creepy nor misogynist . Especially the new gen z and millennial . The new boomers will claim it's sexist movie. Because they have a distorted mental illness way of seeing good classics when things use to be normal . But it would seem okay if all the men are gay in this movie to them . And the woman of the film lesbian. They won't Karen about. The author of this video suffers from Idiocracy.
Only one branch of feminism is Marxist. Most feminists are liberal feminists. Communism is about governments owning all businesses. Feminism is about social and political equality between the sexes and genders. It is not a religious cult. The People's Temple actually drank cyanide-laced Flavor Aid at gunpoint. Leftists, Boomers, Gen Z, and Millennials are just as sane as you are. It's normal for later generations of leftist activists to protest prejudice in old movies. Actually, LGBT Speculative Fiction started in the '50s, when the movie was made! That would make a cool movie if done right! Idiocracy was a funny sci-fi movie!
i don't see how this movie is a misogynist nightmare. but only to modern leftist dumb gen Z snowflakes, i guess. and feminist brain washed male and female but there is nothing abnormal between a man and a woman in this movie. nor misogynist. if it weren't for movies like this there wouldn't be any Star Wars or any sci fi films today it's a great movie. the new gen today has this distorted view of art but it's understandable.
The "distorted" view of art is that old movies seem old-fashioned to later audiences. That's the other reason, besides nostalgia for remakes and reboots!
@@darlalathan6143 Marxism has distorted what real art should be like to the new gen minds if you make a film about farting people the new gen will think its awesome lol
If he wanted to get real, he'd review documentaries! "It's just a movie" never works as a defense against movie criticism, especially against worse movies!
This is truly a classic sci fi movie however the overreaction by the presenter to the "misogyny " is laughable. Can we please maintain a socio- chronological perspective here please. This was done in the mid 50s for God sake. Not to mention even 15 or 20 years ago no one would have batted an eye as to the silly machoistic attitudes of the movie. So lets stop cancelling the past people. The past is dead and it's not gonna change. Its there for ever , as is!
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I'm an old sci-fi nut, old, 71yrs old and I saw this at a Saturday morning, free ice cream movie theater. It's always been a favorite of mine. Even back in the 60s when I saw it ,I thought it was unfair to the girl. It impressed me with the vastness of the Krell! The scene where they walk through the halls with the power being displayed so off handedly was chilling. Robbie was a hero of sorts and kids would scream his name even when he appeard in other movies and TV shows. The robot from Lost In Space came close. Thanks for a trip down memory lane.
What a fantastic film.
My son loves it.
Better than most Sci fi made now.
In 1958 an overwhelming number of the male audience were veterans and a lot of them had served in combat. As a means of making the characters and situations identifiable to the average audience member, the writing is designed to reflect the attitudes and behavior of men in the military.
They basically want to get drunk nd screw.
A work of cinema can capture the _zeitgeist_ of the society and mores of its time, frozen in celluloid, _er,_ MP4 file format.
_Real science fiction stuff!_
Indubitably so. Intended Content, and Unintended Content. Wonderful stuff to parse.
I do agree with the commentator that Leslie Nielsen’s character blames Alta for the horny reactions of his subordinates.He criticizes her for dressing in an alluring manner,not realizing that how a woman dresses isn’t the issue (rather,it’s up to the men to control themselves).
Forbidden Planet is based on The Tempest by Shakespeare ....
It borrows a lot from The Tempest, originally written in about 1610, including the overall plot. Our sci-fi draws a lot from Shakespeare.
I thought the whole misogynistic take was rather foolish. It was written in a time when there was no concept of toxic masculinity. Even then the so called “misogyny” was rather obvious and made the sex starved Navy men seem foolish in their misguided attempts. Eew!
@@rhetoricByEric Maybe it could have done with more misandry as in modern films ,toxic femininity seems in vogue at the moment ..
So was the Star Trek episode Requiem for methuselah". You can see many parallels between that episode and Forbidden Planet - including the inadvertent misogyny - once you know that.
I would love to talk more but I must go and get in touch with my feminine side ,as I am a dish washer in a busy restaurant ...
@@synthpop1505 What a coincidence. So was I; for 19 years. Never needed to get in touch with my feminine side because of it though afaik. Retired nine years ago. Was actually a pretty good job, as I worked with much nicer people than the stiff types in the offices jobs I had for many years prior to that. Now *those* were stressful.
I liked your review, although I'll hope you'll forgive me if I found that your critique did not add anything new to what has already been ascribed to this film. I do not agree with the misogyny label, although there is sexism (and even this existed in many other films and genres of the era). The movie was marketed for 1950's audiences, and while we can retroactively denounce it, we should also acknowledge it in its historical context.
As a fan of the movie, I read the novelization that has been released periodically following its premiere. It deviates slightly from the film, but one of the more interesting ideas had to do with the animals and Alta's alleged influence over them. In a scene not included in the screenplay, the command crew conducted covert surveillance of the Morbius compound. They find nothing but accidentally kill one of the monkeys on the property. Rather than have it found by Morbius, implying their unwanted presence, Dr. Ostrow takes it back to the ship and conducts a necropsy. The "animal" contains no internal organs that are consistent with primate evolution- they turn out to be projections of Morbius' subconscious and his parental duty to care for his daughter (the "animals" are her pets and companions).
In light of this information, these creatures are subconsciously guided by Morbius and cannot hurt Alta because he does not wish harm upon his daughter. The animals are tame around her because of Morbius' influence, not hers, and hence the often cited allegory of the virgin and unicorn seems less prominent. This remains consistent with the latter part of film, as Morbius' control over his own personal kingdom is challenged and his id progressively lashes out at those who defy him (including Alta).
I would also respectfully disagree with portions of your analysis regarding Alta as a character. It is true that she retains little agency throughout the film, but the limitations of her adulthood are the direct result of Morbius' parenting and his need to retain control. He even acknowledges this by commenting that he is obligated to bring her to Earth at some undefined point in the future for her development. While I do not condone the behavior of the crew towards treating her as an object, she remains socially awkward because of the confines created by Morbius. Ironically, she demonstrates a modicum of agency by the end of the film when she "rejects" her father in favor of Commander Adams (although one could argue that her choice is questionable). 🖖
I was thinking along the same lines - especially the part about why animals act like pets around Alta - but you said it much better than I could have.
@@jasontoddman7265 You're very kind, Sir. Despite the parts that have aged out, there's still a lot to admire about this film.
@@thomasromanelli2561 I wholeheartedly agree. IForbidden Planet was a product of its times even at its worst, and really when you get right down to it what healthy young hetero males *don't* act like jerks like that even today? These guys haven't seen a woman in over a year; they've essentially been in space prison. Suddenly they're set free and see Alta. Personally *I* wouldn't act like a horndog, but maybe that is only because I am asexual and level-1 autistic.
A healthy young hetero neuro-normal male with an average age of 23 (as pointed out in the film itself, though that seems like a way underestimate considering most of the male leads are definitely in their 30s by then) is imo more than likely to act in real life precisely how they are shown acting here in this movie; 21st century (or 23rd century in this case) social sensibilities be damned. And maybe, like the Fallout franchise that emulated on 1950s era movies like this, social sensitivities in the Forbidden Planet universe never evolved in the same way ours did.
Oh dear... You missed the film story's connection to Shakespeare. The movie is based on "The Tempest". Well, I hope you read this comment and add this significance to your "Forbidden Planet" lore base. In sooth, it is truth.
Thank you for the kind comments. You know i did have a line in the review about it being based on the Tempest, which also happens to be my favorite Shakespeare work. I ended up cutting it for time and that i didn't really go into it further then acknowledging it. I guess i should have left it in.
Yes , it is a masculine, and boys club movie. Not unlike a lot of the other B movies of its time. I can’t tell you how many movies I saw as a kid that treated women as stupid and naïve were thy are set up and ok with being sexualized.
This being said, today’s standard, the behavior of the crew, and the father, and all the male characters is apprehensible
It's amazing awful to think about it. I have to say, "You've come a long way, baby, to get where you're going today.
Not that the struggle is anywhere near over, but, those old films and shows testify to the far worse conditions of a half century plus ago.
Yes to Chris and yes to commenting intelligences. Great review and analysis... I've loved the movie since I was a kid in the 1960's...
About the sexism. The enjoyment and study of film includes appreciation of "intended" content, and "unintended" content. The unconscious sexism in Forbidden Planet is unintended content that today's viewers can gain a real feeling for the level of sexism almost universal to the period of the movie from. Here is an indicator of how with mass enculturation even the disadvantaged women go along with the idea that these kind of relations are "natural".
A timeless classic of sci-fi cinema.
I remember reading the Donald Duck comic version, before i had seen the actual movie.
Ok, i need to find that comic now.
@@ThatsASpaceStation It was in the german 'lustige Taschenbuch' series. Somewhere between issue 200 and 300, think. not sure, but the series seems to be called "Stories from Duckburg" in english.
CHRIS IS THE MAN. THANKS BOSS!!
Thanks for the love
A great classic sci-fi movie 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I thought the captain and crew's behavior toward Ann Francis made me uncomfortable!
No remake please…
I agree, no remake, especially if you want to modify it to not being so misogynistic. It was a movie of it's time and there is no need to update it accordingly. I feel the same way about such other classics as what was written by William Shakespeare.
@@JohnGunter_Johnprime You do know that this movie was in fact based on The Tempest by William Shakespeare, yes? If not, well... I love the irony. The source material though might explain the misogyny though, considering its age.
The '80s "The Thing" was a remake by John Carpenter- -and it was a sleeper hit! 😁🤓😎🥳
It does have interesting undertones &sub text 😌😌
No need to look at yesterday entertainment through today's supercilious eyes. See it for what it is. A classic.
Yes, some these days want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
I doubt that any remake of FP would be successful. Maybe H-Wood should try something else, like...'Snow White?'
You seem like a personable man, but sometimes not knowing what you don't know, and this video illustrates this in spades. The superficiality of the analysis of the films tropes within the wider SF genre.
Forbidden Planet was released in 1956........not 1958.
A misogynistic nightmare. Hm. I think you need to look up that word and reconsider your title. And BTW a few things. Did you not hear the captain explained the actions of his men. They didn't seem to be gay so I would have to say they would definitely be interested in a young beautiful woman.
The time they arrive and Altair 4 is 17:01. That is the ID of the Starship Enterprise. And yes, that was intentional on Roddenberry's part. Also the guy playing doctor appears in a Star Trek episode.
The spacecraft they arrive in, is C57D. In the film "Serenity" the crew of Serenity go to the planet Miranda. When they get to area where they find out about the Reavers, there is a crashed shuttle with that ID on it's side. Again intentional by Whedon.
Homages seldom seen.
As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.
Misogyny means "woman-hating." The C57D crew's behavior toward Ann Francis was what we now call "sexual harassment". Science fiction depicts future civilizations and alternate worlds, so it need not follow the cultural norms of the author's historical period and country. In fact, feminist science fiction started in the 1920s! During the '50s when Forbidden Planet was made, New Wave, LGBT, and Afrofuturist sci-fi began. All these influenced Star Trek's multicultural crew, Kirk's interracial sexual encounters, and social problem stories!
@@darlalathan6143 So you've looked up the actual meaning but this videos host has not and uses the term incorrectly thoughout.
Thanks for an enjoyable review, but personally it grates a little to apply todays "values" to older films, in this case nearly 70 years old. Therefore if only my opinion your critique of mosogyny etc falls a little flat. Indeed compared to some of its contempory SF films by no means the worst offender - how many 50's ssfi films featured long legged women in high heels and short skirts posing as aliems and do not get me started on Star Trek.
FP is rightly a classic SF film, one of a handful that had high production values, influencing much that followed and I feel that is why it deserves its enduring legacy
thks 4 vid. I think if the set of Morbious0s home was made an exihibit to visit, it would be very opular. the studio probably tore it down. recreate it, I say. ditto the Wizard of Oz main set!
the micro-dvd, seen in the movie, will probably not happen, - everythng streamed.
the holographic reproducer may? - holography concepts seen in the andromeda strain, name of the game -( LA, 2017), 2001(laser-scanned acrylic-like blocks in Hal's memory bank, which lke micro-wave food cookers, I-pads,videophone communication,flat panel tv screen airline sealts, cd face sgield and solar .power space.suit fittings, bow exist or are feasible.- 2001's are the two pivotal SF-space movies. - imaginative film-making.(Boeing's current Atarliner space suit desgns look like those in 2001) bravo.
lucky Leslie and Jack, to appear opposite,cuddle & kiss the gorgeous Anne rancis.
It's not misogynistic. This is just a leftwing religion viewpoint trying to tear a great masterpiece down.
That's just plain nonsense.
@@kensmith2839 No. You leftwing males are plain nonsense.
I've heard of this movie so much but I never realized it was so... creepy. It sure didn't age well in most regards...
I'd actually like to see this remade with modern sensibilities and done better justice on some of the other regards. Because, honestly, this does have some really cool ideas and themes.
EDIT: I said that about 2 seconds before you said you also would like it remade lmao. Glad we think alike.
I know. But I think it's hard to pitch a movie that is about a spaceship crew investigating a deadly planet full of dangerous machinery left behind by a long dead super advanced race, and also there's a robot. Most execs would be like "oh so you want to remake Prometheus?"
The movie is better than the author of this video makes it sound though. Imo at least. I may be biased though as I was born at about the very same time the movie was released, and even remember being impressed as hell the first time I saw it just before Star Trek premiered when I was 10.
"modern sensibilities"
Lol, you actually said that unironically.
Judging past cultures by current political mores is the height of arrogance .
You're god dam RIGHT !
No, it's political correctness. Just because a movie is famous, popular, and old doesn't make it sacred!
Forbidden Planet is still worth watching - the best demo of the Beasts of the Id!. You mention misogyny - but even in the most sophisticated city, meeting strangers dressed in a tiny bikini bottom would not be appreciated.The fault of course, was with her Dad. Besides his other problems, what Dad would dress his grown daughter like this?
She wore mini dresses, not a bikini. Since she was a grown woman, she could dress herself as she pleased. Realistically, a tomboy would dress like a boy. A young straight woman would be just as horny, meeting handsome astronauts in uniform after growing up with only one man, her father! 🤣🤓
Dude, their Sailors in Space. Cut it some slack. Whatever you do, never watch Guys & Dolls, your head will explode.
I wouldn't say _Forbidden Planet_ is misogynistic. Just condescending toward women and a bit sexist. Typical of the 50s attitudes. Of course, they had to cast the young and gorgeous Anne Francis as Alta to accentuate the attraction, NOT to mention the nude bathing she does. Oh the sexual tension! IF you can ignore all that dated nonsense and concentrate on the main plot, this story is really superb. It would have been a sci-fi classic if it had been only in print. Then again, this is *loosely* based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest."
Grow a pair down there kween!
The movie is from an era when men were men and women were women......unlike, lets say 2023.....Hmmmm and resembles mans history for tens of thousands of years.
I'm more disturbed by people's refusal (like you) to distinguish between fantasy & reality. Next you'll bash "I love Lucy" or any other tv show or movie made in the last 80 years.
History exists to be learned from. Respect it. Do not belittle it.
Just because something is old doesn't mean it deserves respect, just look at Boomers.
@@ThatsASpaceStation You're dismissing millions and millions of people across the West based on nothing more than a simple memetic internet label - 'Boomer'. That derisive label says nothing whatsoever about any individual member of said generation. That you believe you can automatically not respect an entire generation because of a silly label says more about you than them. They don't deserve respect, but nor do they deserve disrespect - the same as everyone in all the other generations - they're all individuals.
@@ThatsASpaceStation So you're disparaging an entire generation? That seems rational...
And just because something is new and full of soy boy simp like goodness, well you get the idea, oh and acting like this does not help you get laid, not even feminists respect that. And using your logic, the first amendment is old, so keep your thought to yourself, LOL.@@ThatsASpaceStation
In the interests of 70 years of social reforms that I helped cause since college in the '80s, I partly disagree with your nostalgia. I was born in the '60s, but I like '50s sci-fi. My nostalgia is limited to past art styles, classic cars, and classic rock, not retro hate speech. I liked "Forbidden Planet" for the ground-breaking special effects and sci-fi plot--and Ann Francis' dresses, good looks, and bare feet, not the crew's sexual harassment and the captain's victim-blaming, slut-shaming, and controlling behavior! 🤓
Lots of movies don't give women agency even in 2023. Don't Worry Darling?
I don't think you even know what 'misogyny' is. You seem to get it confused with simple sexism. Add the ridiculous assertion that this movie was SOOO popular and influential that it singlehandedly is responsible for an epidemic of 'misogyny' in the 1960's and 1970's is so ahistorical and hysterical that I almost literally can't believe my ears. What a waste of time this video is : and that's even after agreeing with you that there is *gasp* sexism in this film. But there's no misogyny.
You just called a present-day movie review of a '50s science fiction movie that was set in the far future, "ahistorical," He only says it showed 1950s misogyny and sexism, which mean roughly the same thing. It showed men verbally abusing a woman.
The movie is only creepy to those who have bought into the Marxist feminist cool aid for decades. But it's not creepy nor misogynist . Especially the new gen z and millennial . The new boomers will claim it's sexist movie. Because they have a distorted mental illness way of seeing good classics when things use to be normal . But it would seem okay if all the men are gay in this movie to them . And the woman of the film lesbian. They won't Karen about. The author of this video suffers from Idiocracy.
He has "male feminist" written all over him.
Only one branch of feminism is Marxist. Most feminists are liberal feminists. Communism is about governments owning all businesses. Feminism is about social and political equality between the sexes and genders. It is not a religious cult. The People's Temple actually drank cyanide-laced Flavor Aid at gunpoint. Leftists, Boomers, Gen Z, and Millennials are just as sane as you are. It's normal for later generations of leftist activists to protest prejudice in old movies. Actually, LGBT Speculative Fiction started in the '50s, when the movie was made! That would make a cool movie if done right! Idiocracy was a funny sci-fi movie!
Your reality with woman is not the same as mine.
GROW UP.
i don't see how this movie is a misogynist nightmare. but only to modern leftist dumb gen Z snowflakes, i guess. and feminist brain washed male and female but there is nothing abnormal between a man and a woman in this movie. nor misogynist. if it weren't for movies like this there wouldn't be any Star Wars or any sci fi films today it's a great movie. the new gen today has this distorted view of art but it's understandable.
The "distorted" view of art is that old movies seem old-fashioned to later audiences. That's the other reason, besides nostalgia for remakes and reboots!
@@darlalathan6143 Marxism has distorted what real art should be like to the new gen minds if you make a film about farting people the new gen will think its awesome lol
Based Forbidden Planet
It was a movie, not a doctrine of human behavior. Get real.
It's also a far more rewatchable movie than most of the (expletive self-deleted) they make these days.
If he wanted to get real, he'd review documentaries! "It's just a movie" never works as a defense against movie criticism, especially against worse movies!
Its a shame that this movie has to be critiqued by such leftist attitude issues
This is truly a classic sci fi movie however the overreaction by the presenter to the "misogyny " is laughable.
Can we please maintain a socio- chronological perspective here please. This was done in the mid 50s for God sake. Not to mention even 15 or 20 years ago no one would have batted an eye as to the silly machoistic attitudes of the movie. So lets stop cancelling the past people. The past is dead and it's not gonna change. Its there for ever , as is!