The AdLib Gold Experience: Is it really worth $3000?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The Ad Lib Gold 1000 sound card from 1992 sells for crazy high prices. But why? Let's unbox one and see if it lives up to its legendary reputation by delving into its history, determining why it failed, and seeing how it actually performs on early 90s PC hardware. And of course, play Dune. 🎶
● Thanks to Jim for lending me the card!
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For those asking for a video of all the Juke Box songs, well, that's already a thing:
ruclips.net/video/ATb8zhdINpg/видео.html
Video quality is a bit warbly but you're not missing much. It's all about the sound and the sound is superb 👍
When you said oh yeah after taking card my laptop went for 4k. oO'
Highway2 needs more cowbell.....
I'm curious to know why there'd be a *BOOT SECTOR VIRUS* on original driver diskettes for 3.1!
@@MidnightMechanic Probably pc with wich the diskette was compiled was infected, and then it went further to copying in factory.
You trolled creative labs. But I'm happy that they are still alive and make some good products these days.
This seems to have been a theme with Creative Labs. See also: Aureal Semiconductor, a very early leader in binaural audio, breaking ground on the technology in _the mid 90's,_ and not really expanded on until very recently. The tl;dr is it allowed for simulating how audio would react in a defined 3d space, giving significantly more realistic qualities in echo, attenuation, etc. The company was frivolously sued by Creative Labs, and despite winning the suit, Aureal had taken on too much in legal fees and had to file for bankruptcy, resulting in sale of all their assets and patents to Creative, who proceeded to not use any of them, putting the development of binaural audio in general back some 20 or so years.
Creative Labs can suck it indeed.
Interesting enough, some of the Aureal employees worked on Steam Audio for Valve.
Scummy doesn't begin to describe Creative. They're not the only company that acted in this way though as I'm sure you're no doubt aware.
I find it all a bit unnerving.
A3D ?
I think of Creative as the Nvidia of sound cards...
I had a Vortex 2. The A3D API was fucking siiiiiiiiiiiiiick! One of my most favorite sound cards of all time (that I have personally owned). I'm still pissed off to this day about what Creative Labs did to Aureal.
This is one of the most valuable expansion cards around . . .
just behind a scalped GPU.
Amazing video
Whwn I read Adlib I immediately think of Dune, and Clint delivered. I still listen to that soundtrack, Wormsuit has an amazing groove.
Great episode, loved that has a Tech Tale
Anything Dune is just awesome, mix in some LGR too + you’ve just made my day. Thanks Clint.
Oh wait, I remember now why I never heard of this card. I played games on an Amiga 500 which came with stereo sound built in. I could record and play actual music out of my computer. This kind of thing was silly to me.
Another Groundbreaking and innovative Canadian company with amazing R and D gets pelted and pillaged. I should also note, as a young man in the early 90s....I had an adlib, and ended up buying.....a sound blaster, due to better....compatibility....
Late 80s - Early 90s is era when Soundcard is like today GPU, only master race PC had 'high end' soundcard 😎
Damn RIP Adlib, Yamaha was ruthless lol.
You can't fool me, Clint. This is really a Tech Tales episode, isn't it? Well played, sir. Well played.
Heh, yeah pretty much.
And I'll take it, I enjoy the Tech Tales series!
@@Harey0407
We all did, Ben. We all did.
@Dream0Asylum You beat me to the punch 5 hours ago. 😂 This is 100% a Tech Tales episode, mixed with an Oddware episode.
@@Dream0Asylum LGR OddTales when
"Ahh, smells like a pallet of electronics filled with broken dreams."
Wonder why the caption is a little different...
🤣🤣🤣🤣...🙁...😥
@@BagOfMagicFood Probably automatic and not scripted.
Truly a story of "what goes around comes around". Creative got their footing by being Adlib compatible, then got replaced by everyone else because all sound cards ending up being Sound Blaster compatible.
Not exactly. They were killed off by cheap AC97 built in audio
They got replaced when MOBO manufacturers began building basic sound features into the moboards.
Every mobo I've owned has a creative sound chip baked in
After watching this video, I'd say that Creative Technology deserves what Realtek did to them.
What realtek did to them?
Showed them real tech instead of creative...
Look up Aureal Semiconductor. AdLib isn't the only company Creative Labs screwed over with shitty business practices.
@@maxtrix1 They made a partnership with Intel who bullied manufacturers (particularly HP, Dell, Toshiba, and Asus) into using Realtek audio cards instead of Creative Labs audio cards. Soundblaster went from 76% of the audio card marketshare to less than 20% by 2003.
@@SergeantExtreme A fitting punishment
can you please record the full list of adlib gold songs and upload them to a playlist? I need that in my life right now
I have them on my channel, but you're right that LGR should do as well, for greater exposure!
@@AnonymousGentooman Clint has my full approval to link to my video, and in fact he already did! (see LGR's pinned message)
Same here.
There are later models of the Adlib card, I have a gold edition from 1995 (bought it in 96) and I'm still using it in a W95 PC. Back then I had trouble installing the card and I called Adlib since I live in Quebec City. One of the engineers, his name was Mike, told me to bring the computer over at Adlib and he would look at it... 3 days later he called me, he found a tiny ball of solder shorting 2 pins of the CPU of a Miro video capture card I had in there. I was so glad he was the only person who was able to fix my 10K$ PC. That card had a Crystal chip, the sound samples are really good and thats why I'm still using it for playing MIDI files today. Great video!
Wow, neat story! How was it like being at Adlib? I wonder if their place had any weird quirks.
@@zzoinks Well, I went there on a Saturday, there was nobody in the office and the lab. I remember seeing some specialized tools, like the microscope, some other stuff... to tell you the truth I didn't pay much attention I was concerned with my $10K PC that still wouldn't work 5 weeks after I bought it.
That sounds vaguely farmiliar.. I recall having an Adlib-branded card with a Crystal Semiconductor chipset on it, but I couldn't find it just now.
I had no idea Adlib was Canadian until 4:21 when he flipped over the card and showed the sticker!
Holy shit. Now that’s service.
I love that your eBay user tag is literally "LGR (yes, really)"
"Don't meet your heroes-
-especially without the surround module installed."
LGR, 2021
I shall install one if i ever meet Clint, hope he doesnt mind.. Haha
Well, people seem to forget that Creative was only "creative" in ways of theft, deceit, monopoly, anti-consumer, and corruption practices.
Maybe a video on how Creative bankrupt Aureal with expensive lawsuits that they actually lost.
Could make for a good Tech Tales
Indeed also at marketing/branding they copied others, on later SoundBlaster products also had the gold branding.
@@Whomobile what are you doing here Mr source map man
@@twocatsinatrenchcoat2511 I liek computer
sounds like good old capitalism to me, no other rules but profit.
man these tecnology companies were so shady since the early 90's up until to this day, I wonder how many good products we never saw launch because a bigger company didn't have a better product to compete with it.
That's how companies have always been.
Since the early 1890's, at least. Edison screwed inventors over.
Yah we should be driving cars powered by water rn
@@terribleauthority I know, It's just that when you actually see the stories in practice that you really think about it.
@@AnonymousGentooman I mean, if you use chlorine trifluoride as oxidizer, you actually can burn water with it... not without a shitton of problems, though.
What a great Tech Tales! 😉 So, I'm dying to know: why was there a BOOT SECTOR VIRUS on the 4th disk? 😅
I can only speculate that in the last-minute effort to get things released after the bankruptcy, whoever was duplicating those disks had an infected system. Just adding insult to injury for the few customers that actually bought one, what an unfortunate end to AdLib.
I want to know more about this too! I was hoping he'd talk more about that, bit I'm halfway in I'm not expecting it to get discussed :(
They probably had a deal with McAfee :D
@@countzero1136 Hey, the bath salts weren't gonna mix themselves! John McAfee had to eat.
@@TheJeremyHolloway LOL - High Five!
Oh dear. I killed the Gold as it was not viable to build. I became technical director for Adlib Multimedia Inc. after Ad Lib went into liquidation. The 1000 was never put back into production as it had been stock piled along with a substantial parts holding.. The main problem was the Gold ISA control chip, we ended up scrapping the whole stock of it (some 100k parts) for not many dollars. Other parts were included in the new products we designed in house which were coded ASB for Advanced Sound Boards ASB16 32 and 64. The stock of gold SCSI board components held was used on the ASB to provide a universal port on the card along with the high quality audio grade components.... All the design and software development was done in house in Québec Canada. The card you have there was a late card, the address on grand allee shows it.. for a year Adlib multimedia operated out of the technology park in ste-foy... With v1 manuals, there were many nights spent rewriting them for V2...
Wow, I never knew Creative was such an dirty company. I've lusted after so many of their products over the years but I don't think I ever bought one; glad I didn't.
Then I sure hope you never used any Nvidia, Microsoft or Apple (to name a few) products for that matter because they are more or less, just as dirty. It's a dog eat dog world whether we like it or not. Personally I've used a lot of Creative products from SoundBlaster Pro to Audigy cards, Nomad MP3 players and even a CD ROM Drive with remote for PC back in the 90's and I am more than happy with the quality of their products, excluding the CD ROM Drive which was crap.
@@rogerwilco6302 _It's a dog eat dog world_
Only if we allow it to be that way. If sleazy companies were held accountable for their actions (aka worldwide boycott), because that's not how actual capitalism works, we wouldn't have to live in such a corrupt world.
Having owned and tested a lot of ISA soundcards, in my opinion Creative Labs Sound Blasters are vastly overrated (and overpriced). Creative Labs cards tend to have noisier outputs, lack intelligent mode MPU401 support, and/or have other issues (e.g. MIDI hanging note bug, mediocre FM emulation on later cards, etc) that make them less ideal. I much prefer cards by Gravis, Roland, Terratec, and/or Media Vision.
@@JohnZombi88 It's not about being a "super audiophile". It's about basic things like reasonably clean audio output. There are many cases where older Creative Labs ISA cards are more expensive and worse sounding.
This is especially the case given prices for retro hardware where older Sound Blasters tend to command prices disproportionate to their qualities. In contrast you can get cards that have Sound Blaster compatibility (like ESS based cards) and simultaneously better, cleaner output. Even something like a Thunderboard is superior to an original Sound Blaster based on my own testing, the former will cost a lot less than an original Sound Blaster.
The bottom line is that nobody should feel like they're missing out on anything just because they don't have a Creative Labs sound card.
As for Creative Labs being successful, a lot of that is due to heavy handed business tactics and marketing, not due to quality.
Imagine buying one for $19 and selling it for $3000 now. That's quite insane 😄
@Hazard -- I've been kicking myself over that one for years. Would have bought over $100,000 back then if I knew what it'd be worth now.
@Hazard True story: The funeral director who handled my dad's funeral told me he had the opportunity to buy $10,000 US of Bitcoin back when it first hit the scene and he passed, thinking it was a bad investment and I told him about my dad passing on an offer to be an early investor for DirecTV.
@Hazard You could have bought bitcoin even 6 years after launch. If you had bought $5000 worth in 2015,, it would be worth around $800,000 today.
@@wesleyswafford2462 Everyone I know talks about it so it’s common or I just know a lot of weird people.
Considering that we're talking about a 30 year gap, that's not a great investment. Now if you'd bought a pallet of the things....
Worked with Yamaha to delay chips to Adlib, then sidestepped Yamaha with their own CQM synthesis just a year later. They were aggressive.
I do not see them ever changing. Why switch from what works for you?
Still .. that 4 operator FM synth chip is propably the most sold complete synth on a chip in the world .. ever
@@mrdali67 Stereo & polyphonic, correct?
Chinese
The Nvidia of their day
I'm originally from Québec, and take pride in how the province is a hub for aerospace and software companies. It breaks my heart to hear that a local start-up specializing in computer hardware was basically destroyed by someone holding back the certification of a chip. Ad-lib could have been a true household name.
And also seeing that they were based in my hometown of Quebec City, that's the thing that breaks my heart even more.
Honestly the fate of AdLib sounds like most Canadian tech companies. Either they die before they could do anything after being smothered by a US based company or they get big then kill themselves through a mixture of arrogance and ineptitude (Nortel, Blackberry)
I was an adept PC game in the 90s also from the Quebec province. but I only heard about Adlib's story from youtube.
@@jacnel don't leave Bombardier out of that, ignore whatever puff pieces are written about how Boeing kept the C-series from going to market Bombardier has been the engineering equivalent of Bell and Rogers for decades at this point
Gravis did OK for a while. But eventually they fell too. Not sure if this proves the point or refutes it.
Quebec's greatest contributions to humanity:
1- Adlib
2- Matrox
3- Poutine
Once again, Canadian companies just aren't that experienced nor have the lobbying or VenCap structure to stay afloat for too long... :(
Sadly, though another Canadian Tech Company still lives on. ATI as part of AMD as RTG (Radeon Technologies Group)
On the audio scene we have Classé from Canada.
You must be deliberately overlooking the Matrox Mistake, err, Mystique, in order to grant that company the #2 spot there...
I keep hearing about this "poutine", but I've yet to try it. Think I'd like to, sometime.
"35 year old PC hardware prices are hyper-inflated"
You hurt me right in the 0-1 year old PC hardware.
Why the heck is there a Boot Sector Virus on (what I assume to be) the official included installation disks?
Sabotage by Creative, probably.
@@LordSenile It’s mentioned on the note from the owner of the card, @3:57
Not sad about Creative's fate after they did this to adlib.
Kinda ironic how the small-time competitor from the mid '90s (Avance Logic -> purchased by Realtek in '95) turned into the beast that beat Creative at their own game.
That's the reason Realtek call their sound chips ALCxxxx to this day 25 years later. The Avance Logic heritage lives on through those letters.
Wait, Creative Labs ended up getting a wallop? Good. They were always (in)famous for playing dirty.
@Pith Helmet Yeah they did many times but they cannot compete. They don't have analogue semiconductor expertise and never did. Most they can do is offer MB/laptop vendors software EAX emulation, but those aren't super interested, because they failed to keep it relevant. Vibra was integrated but it just wasn't good. Live used generic AC97 codecs (generally SigmaTel) like on mainboards plus some extra Cirrus DAC, and similar topologies with dedicated third party DAC/ADC have prevailed for a time.
But their 'fate'? They are a prosperous company. Scraps on the periphery right between the PC enthusiast gamer and HiFi markets are still more money than they could have made in the 90s, because the market is SO much larger. I mean when everyone needed a soundcard, back then, did you really have a Creative? Or was a generic Pine ESS about what you could afford.
@Pith Helmet Back when, before HDA or even AC97 became the de facto standard, there were some motherboards with integrated Creative audio solutions - those were generally PCI in practice, though.
Since then, there have been a few boards with on-board Creative audio hardware, but they're not very common. I've had a couple (I'm not a huge fan of Realtek drivers and software), such as the Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 for my previous rig. It has an integrated Creative CA0132 connected to the Intel HDA bus.
Was thinking of the general PC audio market share, I dare say with some certainty that Creative had a bit more % 20 years ago than they do today. :) And I'd also bet quite a bit that Realtek has taken most of that.
@Pith Helmet at least its not AOC 👍
Wow, so soundbaster screwed over AdLib, I know that’s business but dam does that make me hate sound-baster just a little
They did the same thing to Aureal, a company that developed hardware-accelerated 3D soundcards, which were absolutely amazing. They were supported by a lot of game engines at the time, most notably Quake and Half-Life engine games, and you could literally tell where other players were in the map based on sound alone if you were wearing headphones. It was more 3-dimensional than any 5.1 surround sound system I've ever used.
more like sound bastard amirite
@@wewd See also Nvidia's brilliant onboard sound chips.
Creative, Intel, Microsoft, Nintendo, Palm, in the 90s it's always the same story different day. The big guy uses highly illegal anticompetitive tactics to squash competition while the FTC looks the other way, and the entire market pays the price. Which leads to today's monopolies and duopolies in every major sector of the market. Intel and AMD, Samsung and Apple, Nvida and Radeon, Creative and Realtek, Intel and LSI, etcetera.
Microsoft standing alone atop the home OS segment through the same early anticompetitive plays. Linux only continuing to survive by being free. Having brutally slain Palm in the pocket computing market, only to secede their second throne to Google out of sheer disinterest.
Yep, benefiting only the company and not the public. Look at what happened just last year with Intel getting Nvidia to not put their high end laptop graphics cards on the new amd laptop cpu line.
Every second of this was beautiful. Imagine being sent back to the early 90ies and sitting up all night long playing these games on that setup, what a dream experience.
I was there. It was a nice time. However, this time is also great.
In 1995-1997ish, I worked for eTek Labs (spun out of Forte Technologies who developed the original Ultrasound) on the then-new AMD Interwave/Gravis Ultrasound PNP cards... We had a ton of dos games for our regression testing, and bug squashing, as well as some sound cards. I remember seeing the original AdLib card but I've never seen the Gold. A lot of the "Creative being the behemoth" story rings true from our side of the story too. It was always frustrating knowing that the Ultrasound/Ultrasound Max and the increased capabilities and performance of the Ultrasound PNP didn't mean much when Creative held so much more of a market share over us... People didn't really care about wavetable support, or how technically impressive SBOS was... That's probably also the reason why the rev C Interwave chips were never finished (with full filtering and effects on each of the 32 channels... oh well...
I like the "LGR (yes, really)" on that $4000AUS bid history...
I couldn’t see it
@@g-starthefirst 30:44
I literally just saw that randomly and then saw this comment right after
That's rough about Creative freezing them out of those chips. I never knew about that. Jack Tramiel was right, business really is war.
When we die, the nostalgia dies with us. All this shit will be worthless. Ask the Elvis collectors.
crazy how value is relative
Makes me wonder about writing a will to safe guard my retro game collection...
Elvis junk is a completely different market and has no historical significance. Elvis collectors stock up on gas station coffee mugs and mail order t-shirts-some do collect the records, which can go for huge money for certain variants in this kind of NOS condition, but usually the record collectors are who spends the money on Elvis music. The vintage computer market is really coming into its own, and it’s very robust and varied in terms of what is being collected (software, peripherals, hardware, etc). And this stuff is hard to find in the wild these days-the relative rarity of old computer equipment and peripherals is worth noting. Elvis will always sell mugs and T shirts in every gas station-they will always be there. The computer collector market is very niche but will strengthen as time goes on and our relationship to past technologies continues to become more sentimental. I’d argue our relationship to Elvis is not becoming more sentimental as time goes on, but he probably still does hundreds of millions in revenue a year.
@@joshuagibson2520 the classic car bubble busted a while back and some are up (station wagons) while others are down. Million dollar Mopar convertibles that are completely restored are absolutely not a thing anymore (dead original rust-free survivors with strong ownership history are another story) and there are still plenty of old farts driving that market. All markets will ebb and flow. The 60s muscle car market and 90s sports car market are two totally different demographics and tough to compare even though they’re both buying cars.
It was a mistake to come here
The clean board design, the sparkling gold, this card is beautiful!
"A golden unicorn that poops diamonds"? That almost sounds like Butt Stallion.
Best character ever.
Butt Stallion says hi.
feed it eridium you might get a legendary weapon
sounds like biden in msm world
Well, Butt Stallion is a *diamond* unicorn (at least in the Tiny Tina DLC) that poops weapons.
Soooo, better..?
Imagine if AdLib had survived into the new millenium? Maybe we would have built in AdLib chips on our motherboards?
Clint calling a 200KB driver "bloated" is hilarious thinking of the bloat we have to download now LOL
This bloat is not preventing you from running the drivers alongside the software that they're intended to enable. The driver may be a 500mb download, but you have 16gb ram and there's only maybe 100mb of the driver code resident, a drop in the bucket, running one of the most complex subsystems in your PC. In contrast if you can't trim down your basemem consumption to about 40kb, you aren't getting any games to run, so a 200kb driver pretty much breaks your system.
@@SianaGearz no shit achtuallay boy
60-100+ MB downloads for NVIDIA drivers because they're bundled with "GeForce Experience"
@@sugaryhull9688 aren't they like a gig now? LOL
@@sugaryhull9688 That's because what you think is driver is actually a driver package, so it contains drivers for many different cards in one package. AMD does the same. I once swapped RX 560 with RX 580 and it was working without reinstalling drivers, that's kinda cool. And that driver package also packs software, which you may or may not install. Sometimes they even have recently depreciated software like 3D Vision drivers. The actual drivers aren't really that big. Also up to 100 MB is conservative, AMD drivers can get as big as half gigabyte or more than gigabyte once extracted. Also AMD leaves all previous driver version files (with the rest of software) on your PC and never cleans it up, so you can find over 10GB used in C:\AMD directory. That makes nVidia look like saints.
I remember that background noise from the soundblaster being affected by moving the mouse pointer LOL
YOU ARE MOVING THE MOUSE WRONG
I still have PCs that emit a very obnoxious digital noise sound when the cpu is working in the background
@@thear1s makes me think it's the hard drive causing it in that case
@@sinephase It's nvme ssds in both laptops, but in most cases it's due to bad quality capacitors.
@@thear1s oh LMAO I thought you meant a retro computer XD
The subtitle is hilarious. 4:05 "stressful yet exiting slicing."
Subtitle in Clint's videos are the *real* gold
(cuts open the bag)
Me: He's definitely going to sniff it.
(Clint sniffs it)
who else sniffs things? :O
@@JK-dv3qe Nothing quite compares to the smell of an old book. Or a new book, for that matter. I guess books just smell good.
This is an Oddware and a Tech Tales episode together with a fantastic showcase all in one! Awesome video, Clint!
“Scarcity alone doesn’t equal value” - Tell that to crypto enthusiasts.
I mean, that's the collector mentality in general.
@@Aldenfenris Shit, nearly the entire precious metals market runs on this mentality too. Granted there are some practical uses for them, but we're not in any sort of actual danger of running out of gold or silver in particular anytime soon.
Careful the crypto fan boys will have a tantrum worse than an mlm hun when called out for scams. Tbh crypto currency needs to be banned as it's doing damage irl see the lake in New York that is like a hot tub and produces 37,000 years worth of carbon emissions of a person driving to work for their entire adult life in a single year due to a single crypto miner. That's not even touching on the scams
That moment the card was taken out of it's anti static sealbag.... history was written.
"Owning the Adlibs" -Creative
Ad Lib was Quebec-based?! I had no idea, and that's where I'm from!
I am from Hong Kong and I am kinda surprised to see the chip was made here! You don't see that nowadays.
Yes back in the 80s and early 90s lots of things were printed "made in Hong Kong". Since around mid-90s and later "Made in China/PRC" seems to have replaced it. Kinda obvious why I guess.
So glad to see the masterpiece Dune from Cryo! The music from Stephane Picq are for me one of the best memories from my childhood, I will never be bored to hear them ! I always love to play Dune on my original 486 Packard Bell!
Cheers from France !
The mention of a daughterboard reminds me of AVGN Jaguar episode
" You have a game console not many people own and you create an addon that requires owning the game console. *What were they thinking?* "
This story proves to me *again* that every huge company does terrible things to the little guy.
Welcome to the free market.
It sucks.
You think this is bad? Wait until you hear about the things Amazon does to other companies, as well as the psychological CIA tier research that goes into maintaining their power. I'm sure the list goes on for miles
@@FNLNFNLN Where is this "free" market. Never seen that practiced in any nation. Are you talking about the USA-EU-CCP lead FIAT-money laundering scheme? Stuff like this is not the free market. It's fixed crony capitalism.
In a nutshell: Economy is war.
One or few occurences)=proof? Wow
That "Multimedia PC" logo just oozes early 90s:
* Rainbow gradient with heavy dithering
* Black and white clip-art-y CD icon
(Plus, I feel like it was on every box of software back then)
And would you believe, Creative Labs later sued Aureal for patent infringement in 1998. At Aureal they probably thought this was a bad joke as clearly it was Creative who was infringing on THEIR patents, so the counter-sued. After over a year of legal struggle, Aureal got a favorable ruling for their case, but the company was already bled dry and they had to declare bankruptcy in 2000. And guess who was all too willing to buy up the dirt cheap remains of Aureal and its patents on psycho-acoustic 3D sound? Creative Labs. :o)
Examples of Aureal's now lost tech in action: ruclips.net/video/Nq6RJtyoiIw/видео.html
I owned one of their Vortex 2 cards and remember how Valve retrofitted Half-Life with A3D support. It simulated multiple paths to the sound source, e.g. a direct one occluded and muffled by a wall, and additional ones bounced off level geometry and delayed accordingly, adding an extra level of immersion. For stereo headphone playback they simulated how sound from different directions would be heard by the human ear, so that a noise behind you would appear more muffled than one in front of you. I remember one scene where you exit a corridor onto a helipad and a helicopter was approaching to drop off soldiers that gave me goose bumps with how real it sounded. This video had me remember the golden days and made me look at the Wikipedia article for Aureal Semiconductor. It was also a mystery to me why a former employee of Aureal later published a driver for Windows 2000. Considering the circumstances of the bankruptcy I can understand a bit of wistfulness. What was the effect on the industry? Since 20 years we are stuck with NPCs suddenly sounding unrealistically muffled after crossing an imaginary border to another room (lack of secondary reflections) and sound in front or behind of us giving the same "centered" reproduction with headphones (due to a lack of psycho-acoustic modeling of human hearing).
a fantastic investment going from 20$ to 3000$. i would have bought that for 20$ if i could go back in time. (and i also buy 1 Million Bitcoin for 10 bucks) 😝
Oh damn, I have one of those somewhere, got it years ago and didn’t realize it was so rare and expensive (just found it)
i.imgur.com/V1DitqQ.jpg
Now that you mention that...I may have one as well. Imma gonna go look 👀
Well I sold it on eBay, not gonna kiss and tell but I got more than a few dollars for it 😮
@@MortusArtis lucky!
If you weren’t around at the time this was new, its hard to imagine just how much of a difference a sound card could make to a PC. It went from beeps to full music synthesis and sometimes voice.
"Full' synthesis? It was more like an accustic torture xD Like a bad radio in a tin can.
I remember quite clearly the first time I heard wolfenstein 3D through an adlib card. Blew my mind. Soon after I owned a sound blaster 16.
For me it was Commander Keen 4, where I heard Sound Blaster for the first time. It blew my mind.
@@E5rael I remember commander keen. And then every time I'd install a game there was that nagging doubt as to whether it would work properly with a sound card. So some games would have a test, like lords of the realm ii :)
Cue a pallet of the things being unearthed at Computer Reset.
"Is it really worth $3000?" 0:02 Prediction: No.
But he says it sounds really nice...
... having two tiny beige aged plastic PC-speakers in view😁
I feel like there was a missed opportunity to play Descent with the AdLib Gold card but I loved this video. I had no idea Creative was so underhanded.
Damn, that stunts soundtrack. This was the first PC game I ever played and the soundtrack has been stuck somewhere in my head even after all these years.
I think I have that game on CD (copied the disks to a CD for backup purposes)
I remember this game both before and after I added a sound card to my PC. The PAS-16 in AdLib compatibility mode (OPL2) was WAY better than PC speaker. Hearing that fake guitar riff takes me right back to 1992.
I live 5 minutes away (by car) from where the Ad Lib offices were on Grande Allée East. The rent prices on Grande Allée are, and always have been among the most expensive in the province if we exclude Montreal. The area is full of luxury hotels (including the Château Frontenac), the Quebec Parliament and touristic places. Maybe around 80% of the buildings in this area are historic and are at least 250 years old. Why didn't they put their offices in the industrial park or in a more "urban" area of the city, I don't know! Now they are gone, that's shameful.
Sadly it seems this card was just more trouble than it was worth. I remember the SB16 being amazing, compatible with everything.
Then realizing how awful it was compared to a gravis ultra
8:25 I am forever cursed to think of DarkSydePhil every time anyone says "DSP".
This video should produce the opposite of the "Techmoan effect" on the price of this card.
Physically, its a really pretty card too
The noise difference between the two is one of my memories of early 90s PCs. I was always told to turn off the speakers AND the pc when I was done
this is the first time in my life i've even heard of this thing, and i'm *excited* about him hopening it. this is the sign of a great and passionate content creator right there!
First off, TRIXTER IS AWESOME! We used to chat 20+ years ago when I was actually somewhat relevant to the 'scene. ;-)
Second... I HAD an Adlib Gold.... and I'm ready to make some bathtub toast knowing how much it's worth now. :-(
(Good thing I still have my 1st-gen Adlib, SB 2.0 and Gravis Ultrasound! Gonna' try to sell 'em all in a combo deal if I can!)
The older I get the more I love FM Synth. One thing I noticed is how many solid state capacitors the Gold 1000 card had compared to the SoundBlasters. Creative used a lot of electrolytic caps, but the AdLib had very few electrolytic caps. Part of me wonders if your collection of cards would sound better with brand new electrolytic capacitors. I imagine more than a few of them have aged to the point where they're partially out of spec. I just recapped my original non-TMSS "Hi-Def Graphics" Genesis and it sounds quite a bit warmer and fuller now.
I see in the notes something about a dos virus, might be interesting to send that link to danooct1 to play around with.
I noticed that too and thought he would mention it later.
Dude it's gold,and Gold is like...mad expensive
-sliphantom
My DOS memories are a bit rusty, having used one in a PC many, many years ago but I find the problems people had with conventional memory baffling. I mean, aren't you supposed to load drivers etc... In upper memory by using DEVICEHIGH in Config.sys and LOADHIGH or LH commands in Autoexec.bat? I did not sacrifice features like Smartdrv (which improved load times significantly, IIRC) and I never had to use a stripped down boot disk for my games, I always had plenty of conventional memory left. Everything that is meant to run in the background I put in upper memory.
This is that supreme LGR content.
According to my RUclips ads, yes we should invest in gold. Stocking up on these now.
Buying these soundcards might be more reliable than regular gold 😅
Fuckin eToro haha
RUclips has ads?
@@Diggnuts yes. some people don't use adblock because they want to support the creators they watch without directly paying.
@@Inexpressable Do you really think that ads are good for creators?
Remember the golden rule: The man with the golden card rules!
Soros?
Man with golden gun.James bond movie
Hell ! if I had only known this !!, I threw 2 of them out, as well as a few Monster 3D graphics cards.... and a few 486 and 586 / Pentium II motherboards with CPUs etc about 6 months ago ARGH !!
LOL, what a joke. I was buying PC equipment in that era and the Adlib sounded like any other shitty 1980's/90's midi card. The samples are equally dreadful, and the composers use only the sounds that make it sound 8-bit. Total fail when something so expensive sounds so horrible. We were listening to CD, even copying them so that set the standard - these cards were a fail because they all sounded like shit, so you might as well just buy a cheapy SB clone.
Aaaand I'm stuck listening Stephane Picq's music for an hour. Again.
"[memory-constrained laughter]" 😅
Up to $4,000 for one of these, how much was this still sealed. I love old-new stock, brings you back to the past of someone who would have bought top line components in the 90's and seeing it first hand, all new and shiny not used and dusty. Amazing.
Wait just one second here... That card has been sealed for 30 years? In that bag? and YOU are the one to open it? And the first thing you do NOT do is smell it?!?!? My mind is blown. Edit: 30secs later you do, good man!
24:19 *Dark fartcore music plays*
LGR: "Yeah when music is written with the Gold's capabilities in mind, it sounds lovely"
OMG, DUNE on LGR, finally !
It's a hardware video!
It's a Tech Tales video!
It's a "LGR indulges in his hardware smelling fetish" video.
This has it all!
made for Giorno's Theme
Actually an adlib cover of giorno's theme would slap
Get it, because its a joboco reference. Laugh.
Korega....Requiem...Da.
too bad golden fart sucked so much. still shit jojo ist still better than no jojo
Ok so the Dune game featured in this video was one of the first games I came across during my ehh...well, pirating days of AOL and whatnot...that had actual anti-piracy measures. It wasn't great, but they had it. The game would display an image and the game wouldn't start until you entered which page number of the manual that picture was displayed on. It wasn't a very good method because you could just guess and once I had one or two I would just reload it until I got that same picture again. Would have been wiser to ask for something a bit more specific but what do I know.
I find it a bit amazing when you look at video cards and sound cards of the era (ie. early to mid 90's) compared to today, how large some of these cards had to be, whereas today (some 25-30 years later) they can fit the same type of stuff into one or two chips that are the size of a dime and put that into a smartphone that you can carry in your pocket.
It’s all done in software now , old FM synths still have custom chips and it’s not that hard to emulate in software but it’s really not the same at all from a musicians point of view , VSTs are cool but nothing beats hands on controls on a specific machine to do a specific thing , it’s like playing old game boy games on your phone , it’s not the same as putting a cart into the slot and connecting chips to make the game play on your screen, don’t get me wrong I love software but I love hardware more
@@valley_robot Those old Yamaha FM synths are iconic. That guitar in Danger Zone by Kenny Loggins? Yamaha FM synth.
I think the bass line in that song is a DX7, but I could be wrong.
Haha no it's not.
But me being this early and commenting before even watching the video is totally worth it!
Bit daft though, it's only a sound card.
Dude should do guided meditation recordings. His voice is so relaxing it just melts my stress away.
Hearing him talk about anything but old tech would seem weird to me haha. I get you though
@@Inexpressable he does sandwiches. Or at least he did. Not sure if that's still a thing.
I could see him doing a guided meditation describing a nostalgic retro computer experience.
I always remember seeing that "AdLib Gold" in the options lists of dos games and wondered just how "golden" it was compared to my run-of-the-mill soundblaster clone
Stephane Pick recomposed his songs for each board and developed a special driver for the AdLib, allowing him to add nuances in his play.
Listen to the full Dune OST here with the best parts of each boards : ruclips.net/video/o-Q_UO6Hp7U/видео.html
Just look at the build quality of the pcb. Inner shielding layer, lots of copper as opposed to the cheap soundblaster. Just hold it against a light source.
It's always the cruel business why we can't have nice things
What was on that 4th disc? The letter makes it sound like there is a boot sector virus on it? 3:58
I'm mainly here for the retro games but I still always watch these videos. Even though the subject isn't that fascinating to me, the production quality and Clints presentation is top notch.
It’s funny how the original gets treated like the clone just because the SB people manipulated the market
I never realized that SB where the copycats at the time
I wish the founder of Creative, Sin, would get repercussions for his immoral business dealings. But of course in this world, people like that end up billionaires and succeeding.
DUNE is just... awesome. Just like the movie, so much hidden magic, absolutely love it.
The AdLib Gold does have amazing stereo separation, and it is surprising to notice that through RUclips.
18: 34 "Unreasonable 398 kb of FREAKIN ventional memory."
Oh, my gosh, Dune sounds so great! My favorite rendition is on the SEGA CD. And this is very similar.