Hey all, thanks for watching! I posted part 2 of this video recently - if you're interested in smart charging the tablet to preserve battery life, check it out! ruclips.net/video/n2DRz9QBXDs/видео.html Just a note: The MQTT setup in Fully Kiosk is not required for using REST API to pull the sensors into Home Assistant. You can use MQTT to pull the sensor data in as an alternative to the REST method, but MQTT seems a bit more complicated despite its potential advantages. Thanks again for watching!
Thanks for the great step-by-step. Small update from my part, I had an issue with the motion detection that I wanted to share. Actually my screen was never locking... the issue came from the fact that my Fire7 was setup (in Android setting) do generate a clicking sound when locking the device. So, with the Acoustic presence detection turned on, you can imagine my Fire7 was actually locking after 30 sec, generating the 'click' sound from Android, which would trigger the acoustic detection, and put the screen back on. So I had to simply turn off the sound "when locking" and "when charging" in Android's settings. Everything else is working great. Thanks again
Your videos are by far the best home assistance videos I have watched, its both fun, informative and to the point. Keep coming with these wonderful videos
This has been the most informative video I have seen on installing and setting up Fully Kiosk and setting up Home Assistant, but you left out one of the most needed parts,,,,,,,,, You went through the setup of Home Assistant but You never covered the installation procedure or version for a Fire Tablet. That is where I have been stuck at for over a week. Do you cover this in another video? Thanks Paul
Great video. Do you have a link that shows your Homeassistant dashboard demo or like pics. i also want to how to created different tabs for living room and bedroom and media, etc
After 3 years my first fire tablet is really slow, although the second version I made (see my most recent tablet video) is still going strong. Overall I'd still recommend them as they're pretty cheap, but if you don't want to deal with fire tool kit and stuff like that, there are other cheap tablets out there you can use.
Another awesome video! Thanks! Off to your battery management one! Edit: Oh, one thing that stumped me for a bit was the yaml file modifications step. In order for those files to work, I had to add them to configuration.yaml with camera: !include cameras.yml, etc for the new sensors to be recognized and then restart HA.
Hey Cliff. When I made this I assumed that people knew how to split up their configuration file. A common practice is to create separate files called sensors.yaml, cameras.yaml, lights.yaml, etc., and put the configuration for various sensors, cameras, lights, etc into those files. That's what I did here, but if you do that, your main configuration.yaml file needs to reference the files that you split off. To do that, you would put camera: !include cameras.yaml into your main config file. This pretty much tells your configuration that if it wants to know where the cameras are configured, it needs to go to that file. You would do the same thing for sensors, lights, etc. This doc will help if I didn't explain it well enough. www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
@@makeitworktech i did this and now i have Configuration invalid. Integration error: sensors - Integration 'sensors' not found. Integration error: cameras - Integration 'cameras' not found. Integration error: switches - Integration 'switches' not found.
Glad I ended up here! Got everything working but cant seem to get any of the sensors going. Trying to add battery level and brightness sensor. any tips?
What about the security aspects of exposing all of these features and controls? Could you do a brief explanation of how the Fully Kiosk integration with Home Assistant is secured? It sounds like I'd be opening up a ton of features to the network (camera, microphone) for remote access but is there security on it to prevent unauthorized access? I'm sorry if you explained it and I missed that part though
Hi Dave, the only security feature I know anything about is the fully remote admin password that you set that prevents access to those features and controls. Not sure about Filly's security. They may have something on their website. Sorry I couldn't be of more help
Thank you for explaining how to take my Fire HD 10 to the next. How is the sound? I like to listen to music when I cook/clean the kitchen. Is the sound loud enough?
I've been considering adding an outlet to an existing electrical circuit myself. Every time I get serious about it, my wife reminds me that the house could burn down if I don't do it right. What were your considerations (complexity of wiring, experience, etc.) in doing it yourself as opposed to hiring a professional? I'm a DIY'er, and a chemical engineer by trade, so I'm confident I could figure it out, but I have the nagging voice saying to get a pro to do it because of liability, insurance, etc. But I don't want to pay $150 to get a dumb outlet installed. Thoughts?
I can't give you any official advice cause I don't want to be liable haha 😂 All I can say is that I'm a mechanical engineer but it really was a no-brainer for me to do it myself. I learned from my brother who is an electrician, but really you just need to be aware of the electrical code (US) that applies. As far as difficulty, if you know how to use a drywall knife, wire strippers, and wire nuts you should be good. Outlets are simpler than switches to install, and this one was super easy. There are some licensed electricians on RUclips that you can learn from!
hi there! Wonderful easy to follow tutorial. I just have one question - how did you get your HA dashboard to take up the full Android tablet screen? I'm still showing the battery level, time etc on the top of my tablet. Would love to hide this info.
I only bought the Amazon Fire Tablet because you have it in this video. I thought to do the same, why did I need to buy Android right away, I have been working with it for 5 hours and only 2 minutes of your video have passed.
I know this is an older video but i cannot expose the motion sensor! i can expose motion switch but not the sensor! i have firehd10 any idea why all works including the camera but not motion sensor?
Any suggestions for a smart Wi-Fi USB outlet that doesn't require a neutral wire? I have an older house with only +, -, and a ground wire. Thanks...Great video!
@@makeitworktech Quick question, how do you update your Firetablet? Install the update from Amazon over the air and then run the Fire Toolbox from XDA again?
Great video. I've gone back and installed the APK version as the Playstore version warnings were becoming worrying. Everything worked, except the proximity screen start but now I'm getting asked for Kiosk PIN when I swipe right to get into the menu, yet have never set this up. Any thoughts?
In a bit of a pickle, I followed the tutorial about 2 years ago and I've been using my wall tablet ever since. But it seems the USB cable that comes with the housing on mine broke, and the gentleman who sells the housings on Etsy is no longer selling them. I can't find the cable anywhere online, any idea where I can get a replacement?
@@makeitworktech I purchased a cable I found on Amazon after some exhaustive searching. But the original was a very thin ribbon cable of a specific length and very thin type c piece. I'm not confident the new one will work, due to the clearance between the wall and the distance of the right angle cable but I figured I'd reach out on here in hopes of finding the exact cable again to avoid issues. We'll see, worst case scenario I may have to modify the 3D printed wall mounted holder to work with a new cable I suppose.
When mounting that recessed box, did you not use the faceplate? Without the faceplate you can't tighten the box in the wall right? So did you drill holes in the Mike's mount directly to the box? I ordered a Mike's mount for my samsung tablet, so different, but looks like I'll need to make new holes for sure
Yes, I did use the faceplate, which causes a little bit of a gap between the mount and the wall. The mount I ordered already had the holes needed to attach the mount to the box. I can send pictures of you want to see more details
Hi, thanks! I forgot to add that I integrated the tablet's motion sensor via MQTT. There are other sensors you can expose via MQTT instead of REST, but it's easier to do REST. The new Fully Kiosk integration adds most sensors via REST (I believe), but you still need to add the motion sensor via REST or MQTT.
I'm having problems with loading the startup URL on Fully Kiosk Browser. The browser isn't loading the startup page. Getting error message, but the URL is correct. Do you have any advice what could be wrong?
Thank you for such a video, I can ask you a question, to control the battery charge of the tablet how do you do it, I think at the time that the tablet runs out of battery and this is charged, do you do it with a relay associated with home assistant? Excuse my writing, but I need a translator to communicate with you. Greetings.
I think I understand your question. Right now I have no way of controlling when the tablet is being charged, but I plan to look for a Wi-Fi, zigbee, or Z-Wave switch to control it. This WiFi one should work with Home Assistant using the Tuya integration. I may try this. www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3R5PWS/
@@makeitworktech I think of a scene through the sensors of the tablet, in case it goes below 19% activate a relay to pass current, and reaching 100% to cut the current, and so on.
@@makeitworktech Does this product seem like an option to you so I can save a relay? www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3R5PWS/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07R3R5PWS&pd_rd_w=xeupJ&pf_rd_p=80360d1c-2d74-4d2e-9034-f92fb5248b33&pd_rd_wg=yt2J8&pf_rd_r=0FNSY9M70PX6TAR83S9R&pd_rd_r=06ae0a6d-57f1-4b41-b035-d7ad5e9d309d&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyOEc1M1lSR1ZEN0xYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjY4MTYxMlFYWjZQUlpCU1daMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTI1NTQ0MUJKMDRUSEtVOVRNSCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Yeah that looks like it will work! It says the USB port is controlled via Smart Phone, so hopefully that means via the Tuya app. I'm going to order one and give it a try.
This is quality content. Followed the instructions very easily. Fire Tablet is a no brainer for this purpose, thanks very much indeed. One question on the motion sensor in HA, how did you configure that? The sensor data that is pulled from Fully incorrectly lists "motiondetectorstate" which I think should be "motiondetectorstatus" but I can't see that responding as a motion sensor. I'm trying MQTT now and can get it to trigger motion with this config: binary_sensor: - platform: mqtt name: name here state_topic: "fully/event/onMotion/device ID here" value_template: "{{ value_json.type }}" payload_on: "visual" device_class: motion But then I need another payload to clear the motion. Any ideas?
@@makeitworktech Magic. Works perfectly - worth adding to the documentation. Thanks - appreciate you giving out support tips in the RUclips comments section!
I have one issue with my dashboard/wall panel How do I force zoom settings Example: Default= 100% zoom I need 75% zoom How do I force these settings in {FKB or the HA app}. since I don't like resetting/changing zoom every time I change the page/layout
so if we dont have a sensors.yaml or cameras.yaml file what do we do? i tried jsut creating one from sratch and following the tutorial but its not working
You need to add this to your configuration.yaml camera: !include cameras.yaml Same thing but with sensor, and sensors.yaml You should check out this documentation for info on how to split up your configuration.yaml www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
Any tips for degrading performance? I'm not 100% sure of the cause, but I rolled three HD10s in my house, wall mounted, and everything was great for several months. Then suddenly a few weeks ago performance on every tablet tanked. Lovelace was slow and laggy. Moving to different lovelace pages caused a slow spinning wheel. Buttons would be unresponsive when pressed, but a press would cause FullyKiosk to refresh the page, and the button would work again. Meanwhile HA/Lovelace performance from a PC browser or on iOS device (iphone & iPad) remained perfectly fine. I presumed this to be an Amazon update, so this morning I pulled one of the tablets down and re-performed all of the toolbox tasks and double checked my full kiosk settings. Performance seems to have improved but still doesn't feel as snappy as before. Any ideas?
Hey Steve, I noticed the same thing, but I'm not sure if the cause. One thing that I did that helped was to have FK auto refresh every once in awhile. I believe that's in the settings of fully kiosk. You could give that a try. Also try comparing it to the home assistant app on the tablet and also a regular browser on the tablet as well, to see if it's just FK doing it
All working perfect, but probably I've a problem with the comand for watching the camera in lovelace. I found the device but the image doesn't work. I have a Tab Samsung Galaxy 10 with android 7.1.1
Hey man, I've run into a problem using my Fire HD 7. When I try to load HASS via the Home Assistant app it doesn't seem to load any of the lovelace pages. Same when I use Fully Kiosk. Any thoughts on why this might happen?
Hi Adam, so it's not giving you an error that the URL is wrong? You can try pulling down to refresh, bit it's weird it's happening in both FK and the HA app. That makes it seem like something changed with HA rather than your tablet
I liked your idea so much I ended up copying your project. However, I ran into a small issue. If I put the faceplate on the mount, my tablet doesn't work. In fact the screen stops responding to input. I have to then remove the faceplate and push the power button momentarily and everything starts working. Also, I noticed the screen doesn't go into sleep if I put the faceplate on. Clearly the faceplate is hitting something on the tablet that is messing up the screen. Everything works if I leave the faceplate off. Just looks a little ugly. Any ideas?
Thanks for creating such an amazing and in-depth step-by-step video. I followed everything you did and am able to log into the tablet via port 2323. I followed all your steps for fully kiosk settings and when I sign into Home Assistant all I see is a blank screen and blue title bar on top. I tried accessing HA via Chrome on my Fire10 tablet and it displays everything just fine. Any ideas?
Thanks! Best bet is there's something wrong with the Start URL for Fully Kiosk. Make sure that's correctly pointing to Home Assistant. Try it like this: :8123/
@@makeitworktech It is pointing to correct URL because I am prompted with HA login screen. After I enter username and password that I get blank screen and nothing shows up.
@@makeitworktech No worries and it just started working now after me retrying to logging in and swiping down to refresh :) once again great video and very easy to follow. Now time to start making my own custom dashboards.
Hello thanks fot the video I have a problem with Home assistant en fully webbrowser when there is somthing happening in the garden the camera in recognize it but when the screensaver in Fully is on there no picture of the camera when stop by tck on screen then I see the picture of the camera I think there must be trigger so that screensaver go dwon an d show me the camera picture I hope you understand me and maybe you have a sollution many regards jan from the Netherlands
Should be, but I'm about to find out in a week or so! Just picked one up and am going to do the same thing. There is a fully kiosk integration in HACS, so I may try that.
One question: I bought an Amazon Fire HD 10 (10th generation) on Amazon. I just unpacked It. It tells me there is a software update available. Can i update it before using the toolbox? Or does it break the "hack"?
I think it's ok to update the tablet, but you should just be able to factory reset if it messes something up. I can't remember if mine updated first, sorry about that!
Motion detection > i put it on 10% but now my tablet is always on, i put it out with switch and a few seconds later it goes on, i put motion detection off, it still goes on. What setting to correct it?
GREAT video!!! I am IT dummy as I can figure out it. I'm stuck at the Start URL (not sure what to add here). I had the Home Assistant app then removed it because I struggled so badly configuring the two. I'm afraid to say that I need handholding or a more simplified explanation. Also, is there anything additionally that I need to do inside the router/modem? I tried the IP address with port 2323 and from a browser, I cant reach it; this is the message: 192.168.1.42 refused to connect.
Easiest way to find out what to put for Start URL is to log into HA via a web browser as you normally would, and then navigate to the page you want to be displayed on the tablet. Then look at the address bar... That's the URL you need to put into the Start URL field
@@makeitworktech it turns out I need to install HA on my laptop then use the UI on the tablet. So another question would be is which version to I install on a 'non dedicated server'?
@@makeitworktech from this im thinking this cannot be installed onto a laptop. Thats the option I'm looking for. Install Home Assistant Operating System VirtualBox (.vdi) KVM (.qcow2) Vmware Workstation (.vmdk) Hyper-V (.vhdx)
@@makeitworktech In the sign on to the device in the fully kiosk software. All of my accounts require MFA. So if you're exposing your Home Assistant, and in turn, your entire HOME to the outside world without MFA even with reverse proxy, you're asking for what comes with it. Something like this should be secured, with MFA. 100% of the time.
@8BitLife FK isn't exposed to the outside world. It's a local solution. I don't use MFA to sign into a device locally since that requires access to my network. Edit: Fully Cloud is an option, but I've never used it.
Hmm tried to connect my new fire (9th gen) to Windows 10 on Parallels Mac installed ADB drivers but toolbox can not find the Fire. There must be an option on the tablet to enable mass storage? But Where?
@@makeitworktech I was looking for a copy and paste article over a video. When translating what is on the video screen to my instance of HA I do not get a camera image. Do you happen to have a source article or github where I could view the code in text?
Nice video and I've subscribed I'm just going to have to remember to skip the first 10 seconds of your videos though. I understand it's a gimmick to stand out from the crowd but i hate the slurping a drink noises...😬😀
Hahaha thanks for the feedback! 😂 I think I've done that just 2 times, but you'll never know which videos haha I'll make sure not to do that in the future ☕
I cannot get this to work for the life of me I have double checked everything and have a MQTT broker any way you could point me in the right direction?
It's part of splitting out your configuration file - good practice. In your configuration file, you add "sensor: !include sensors.yaml" and then put all your sensors in that file. Check out this link, it should help you. Join my discord if you need more help! www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
struggling to find the entity in HA! I have it in MQTT I can see it in MQTT Explorer but despite everything I don't have the device in Home Assistant. I even restarted the server. Weird.
@@makeitworktech I did - that's whats so odd. I didn't have a sensors.yaml so I made it and put it in. I don't see the device in HA>. I am re-reading that thread you linked to on the forums but I don't see if there were updates for more current version of HA (I am running latest). Im sure I screwed something up :). I tested the secret URL and I can bring that up without ap problem so I don't think that's the issue. Again - Strange. Thanks for the fast reply!
@@makeitworktech Thanks for the help - that was exactly the problem! I guess I hinted at it when I said I added the file. Silly me thought it would just get sucked up by the configuration.yaml. Still learning. Thanks for the help again and the patience. Great video - very helpful!
amazon ruined everything.. im stuck on a black screen always because amazon keeps updating the tablet and destroying everything.. Blocking updates no longer works after fire os 3.2 ...
@@makeitworktech I followed all your steps the only difference was at a very early stage I got a massive warning which you didn't have.. Saying amazon are blocking changes to the auto update/blocking updates since 3.2.something.. And now this only works for a couple hours.. Then it reverts back to having all the crappy amazon apps and kiosk just gives me a black screen
It's so anoying because I've had this video on my watch later for agessss.. and bought the tablet ages ago too on summer prime sales and just had the time to install it all today as I redid all my HA system.. 😭😭
@@makeitworktech I have a solution.. Not the most elegant one but a solution.. Install everything I need to and then block all external Internet access to the table.. So I have a local connection and everything works as it should but its all local.. I just forgot to buy the license so I'm worried the whole thing will fall apart when I turn on Internet to buy it 😂😂
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Hey all, thanks for watching! I posted part 2 of this video recently - if you're interested in smart charging the tablet to preserve battery life, check it out!
ruclips.net/video/n2DRz9QBXDs/видео.html
Just a note: The MQTT setup in Fully Kiosk is not required for using REST API to pull the sensors into Home Assistant. You can use MQTT to pull the sensor data in as an alternative to the REST method, but MQTT seems a bit more complicated despite its potential advantages. Thanks again for watching!
Thanks for the great step-by-step. Small update from my part, I had an issue with the motion detection that I wanted to share. Actually my screen was never locking... the issue came from the fact that my Fire7 was setup (in Android setting) do generate a clicking sound when locking the device. So, with the Acoustic presence detection turned on, you can imagine my Fire7 was actually locking after 30 sec, generating the 'click' sound from Android, which would trigger the acoustic detection, and put the screen back on. So I had to simply turn off the sound "when locking" and "when charging" in Android's settings. Everything else is working great. Thanks again
Ahh, that happened to me too! Also I had a problem trying to use the screensaver with Android daydream. Was causing FK to freeze
Your videos are by far the best home assistance videos I have watched, its both fun, informative and to the point. Keep coming with these wonderful videos
Wow, thanks, I really appreciate it! Means a lot!
Awesome tutorial! You deserved a new subscriber to the channel! Great! Keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words!
I like your frontend dashboard very clean. Do you have a sample codes or tutorial video on how you created the dashboard for tablet.
I don't have a GitHub repo right now, but shoot me a message on my FB page and I can send you the code in a text file
This has been the most informative video I have seen on installing and setting up Fully Kiosk and setting up Home Assistant, but you left out one of the most needed parts,,,,,,,,, You went through the setup of Home Assistant but You never covered the installation procedure or version for a Fire Tablet. That is where I have been stuck at for over a week.
Do you cover this in another video?
Thanks
Paul
Thank you!
No, I didn't cover it. You just download it from the FK website and install it!
Incredible content! Super informative. Thanks for the tutorial!
Much appreciated! I hope it was helpful!
Great video. Do you have a link that shows your Homeassistant dashboard demo or like pics. i also want to how to created different tabs for living room and bedroom and media, etc
can you maybe do a view on customizing the dashboard
Not yet but send me a message on Facebook and I can share info with you
Hey what a Great Tutorial? 🙏 would you recommend a fire HD 10 today and what is your experience after three years?
After 3 years my first fire tablet is really slow, although the second version I made (see my most recent tablet video) is still going strong. Overall I'd still recommend them as they're pretty cheap, but if you don't want to deal with fire tool kit and stuff like that, there are other cheap tablets out there you can use.
This video is super-helpful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Another awesome video! Thanks! Off to your battery management one!
Edit: Oh, one thing that stumped me for a bit was the yaml file modifications step. In order for those files to work, I had to add them to configuration.yaml with camera: !include cameras.yml, etc for the new sensors to be recognized and then restart HA.
Yeah sorry I should have made that clearer!
@@makeitworktech what does he mean by this? my HA does not recognize any of this that u did on the vid.
Hey Cliff. When I made this I assumed that people knew how to split up their configuration file. A common practice is to create separate files called sensors.yaml, cameras.yaml, lights.yaml, etc., and put the configuration for various sensors, cameras, lights, etc into those files. That's what I did here, but if you do that, your main configuration.yaml file needs to reference the files that you split off. To do that, you would put camera: !include cameras.yaml into your main config file. This pretty much tells your configuration that if it wants to know where the cameras are configured, it needs to go to that file. You would do the same thing for sensors, lights, etc.
This doc will help if I didn't explain it well enough.
www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
@@makeitworktech i did this and now i have Configuration invalid.
Integration error: sensors - Integration 'sensors' not found.
Integration error: cameras - Integration 'cameras' not found.
Integration error: switches - Integration 'switches' not found.
Make sure you put camera: not cameras:
Glad I ended up here! Got everything working but cant seem to get any of the sensors going. Trying to add battery level and brightness sensor. any tips?
Hey, you can try using the fully kiosk integration that came out since I made this video. That will give you battery level at least
Great video. I’m just starting to build my system. So I assume I need to install home assistance first? Before I follow this video? Ty so much!
You should look into setting up Home Assistant first, then you can follow this guide!
Awesome, well explaned. Thanks for it! Can you share more details about this lovelace dashboard?
Thank you! If you can send me a message on Facebook (link in description) I can send you any info you're looking for
What about the security aspects of exposing all of these features and controls? Could you do a brief explanation of how the Fully Kiosk integration with Home Assistant is secured? It sounds like I'd be opening up a ton of features to the network (camera, microphone) for remote access but is there security on it to prevent unauthorized access? I'm sorry if you explained it and I missed that part though
Hi Dave, the only security feature I know anything about is the fully remote admin password that you set that prevents access to those features and controls. Not sure about Filly's security. They may have something on their website.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help
Thank you for explaining how to take my Fire HD 10 to the next. How is the sound? I like to listen to music when I cook/clean the kitchen. Is the sound loud enough?
The sound isn't great. I ended up going back to an echo dot (see the update video I made last year} because the speaker wasn't great
I've been considering adding an outlet to an existing electrical circuit myself. Every time I get serious about it, my wife reminds me that the house could burn down if I don't do it right. What were your considerations (complexity of wiring, experience, etc.) in doing it yourself as opposed to hiring a professional? I'm a DIY'er, and a chemical engineer by trade, so I'm confident I could figure it out, but I have the nagging voice saying to get a pro to do it because of liability, insurance, etc. But I don't want to pay $150 to get a dumb outlet installed. Thoughts?
I can't give you any official advice cause I don't want to be liable haha 😂
All I can say is that I'm a mechanical engineer but it really was a no-brainer for me to do it myself. I learned from my brother who is an electrician, but really you just need to be aware of the electrical code (US) that applies. As far as difficulty, if you know how to use a drywall knife, wire strippers, and wire nuts you should be good. Outlets are simpler than switches to install, and this one was super easy. There are some licensed electricians on RUclips that you can learn from!
hi there! Wonderful easy to follow tutorial. I just have one question - how did you get your HA dashboard to take up the full Android tablet screen? I'm still showing the battery level, time etc on the top of my tablet. Would love to hide this info.
Thanks! I believe there's a full screen option in the fully kiosk menu
I only bought the Amazon Fire Tablet because you have it in this video. I thought to do the same, why did I need to buy Android right away, I have been working with it for 5 hours and only 2 minutes of your video have passed.
It shouldn't take 5 hours!
I know this is an older video but i cannot expose the motion sensor! i can expose motion switch but not the sensor! i have firehd10 any idea why all works including the camera but not motion sensor?
nevermind excellent video i did not listen long enough haha thumbs up man
Thanks! Working on a video showing how to smart charge the tablet to avoid loss of battery life too!
@@makeitworktech have you tried using Poe adapters?
No I have not! I don't have cat5 run anywhere thoughout my house so just doing an outlet was easiest.
great step-by-step tutorial. You mentioned you changed the audio sensitivity, how did you do that? Thanks
Thanks! You can do that in the Motion Detection settings. Change the sensitivity for Acoustic Motion Detection
Any suggestions for a smart Wi-Fi USB outlet that doesn't require a neutral wire? I have an older house with only +, -, and a ground wire. Thanks...Great video!
Thanks! All you need is a black, white, and ground. What do you have in the box?
@@makeitworktech Thanks for the reply. White, black, and ground is what I have.
@@hoodwink55 No problem! Should be good to go I think
Nice, you gained a sub. Keep it up.
Thanks!
Great video. You've just got a new subscriber.
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the sub!
@@makeitworktech Quick question, how do you update your Firetablet? Install the update from Amazon over the air and then run the Fire Toolbox from XDA again?
I don't update it! I never really thought about updates
Great video. I've gone back and installed the APK version as the Playstore version warnings were becoming worrying.
Everything worked, except the proximity screen start but now I'm getting asked for Kiosk PIN when I swipe right to get into the menu, yet have never set this up. Any thoughts?
Its 1234
Hmm, strange that it asks for a pin. That should be disabled in settings I'd think
THis is awesome!! Been look at how to create a dashboard. Do these apps i.e The Toolbox run on MacOS??
Thanks! Not sure, but check their forum it might say
@@makeitworktech Thanks!!!
In a bit of a pickle, I followed the tutorial about 2 years ago and I've been using my wall tablet ever since. But it seems the USB cable that comes with the housing on mine broke, and the gentleman who sells the housings on Etsy is no longer selling them. I can't find the cable anywhere online, any idea where I can get a replacement?
It's just a right-angle USB cable right? I though they were plentiful?
@@makeitworktech I purchased a cable I found on Amazon after some exhaustive searching. But the original was a very thin ribbon cable of a specific length and very thin type c piece. I'm not confident the new one will work, due to the clearance between the wall and the distance of the right angle cable but I figured I'd reach out on here in hopes of finding the exact cable again to avoid issues. We'll see, worst case scenario I may have to modify the 3D printed wall mounted holder to work with a new cable I suppose.
Great video, thank you for sharing 🙂
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@@makeitworktech buying a new house soon and starting with a blank slate, it's both daunting and exciting to consider all the potential smart options!
That's what I did! I had a dream for a wall-mounted control panel and finally did it when I bought my own house!
Lots of options!
solid video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks! Loving the futuristic feel of controlling everything from a wall panel
Nice video! Literally just got started with HA and you made it easy. What theme are you using for your dashboard?
Thanks! The one in this video is an iOS theme from HACS. I've switched to a dark blue theme called Notcis now
@@makeitworktech Nice! I'll check them out!
@@makeitworktech Another question for you - what did you use for that nest climate control card?
There's multiple cards there, but the actual thermostat control is the "simple thermostat" card
@@makeitworktech Thanks again!
When mounting that recessed box, did you not use the faceplate? Without the faceplate you can't tighten the box in the wall right? So did you drill holes in the Mike's mount directly to the box? I ordered a Mike's mount for my samsung tablet, so different, but looks like I'll need to make new holes for sure
Yes, I did use the faceplate, which causes a little bit of a gap between the mount and the wall. The mount I ordered already had the holes needed to attach the mount to the box.
I can send pictures of you want to see more details
Please do, curious how you mounted to the box, mine has 4 holes but they don't line up to anything really
Send me a message on FB link in description and I'll send some pics
Hi, first of all, very good video. I have a quick question. Why do you setup mqtt when you expose all sensors via REST api (and not mqtt)?
Hi, thanks! I forgot to add that I integrated the tablet's motion sensor via MQTT. There are other sensors you can expose via MQTT instead of REST, but it's easier to do REST. The new Fully Kiosk integration adds most sensors via REST (I believe), but you still need to add the motion sensor via REST or MQTT.
I'm having problems with loading the startup URL on Fully Kiosk Browser. The browser isn't loading the startup page. Getting error message, but the URL is correct. Do you have any advice what could be wrong?
What's the URL you are using? Internal or external? (DuckDNS / Nabu Casa or no?)
Thank you for such a video, I can ask you a question, to control the battery charge of the tablet how do you do it, I think at the time that the tablet runs out of battery and this is charged, do you do it with a relay associated with home assistant?
Excuse my writing, but I need a translator to communicate with you.
Greetings.
I think I understand your question. Right now I have no way of controlling when the tablet is being charged, but I plan to look for a Wi-Fi, zigbee, or Z-Wave switch to control it. This WiFi one should work with Home Assistant using the Tuya integration. I may try this.
www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3R5PWS/
@@makeitworktech I think of a scene through the sensors of the tablet, in case it goes below 19% activate a relay to pass current, and reaching 100% to cut the current, and so on.
Yes, that would work! I think batteries perform best between 20% and 80%
@@makeitworktech Does this product seem like an option to you so I can save a relay?
www.amazon.com/dp/B07R3R5PWS/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07R3R5PWS&pd_rd_w=xeupJ&pf_rd_p=80360d1c-2d74-4d2e-9034-f92fb5248b33&pd_rd_wg=yt2J8&pf_rd_r=0FNSY9M70PX6TAR83S9R&pd_rd_r=06ae0a6d-57f1-4b41-b035-d7ad5e9d309d&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyOEc1M1lSR1ZEN0xYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjY4MTYxMlFYWjZQUlpCU1daMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTI1NTQ0MUJKMDRUSEtVOVRNSCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Yeah that looks like it will work! It says the USB port is controlled via Smart Phone, so hopefully that means via the Tuya app.
I'm going to order one and give it a try.
This is quality content. Followed the instructions very easily. Fire Tablet is a no brainer for this purpose, thanks very much indeed. One question on the motion sensor in HA, how did you configure that? The sensor data that is pulled from Fully incorrectly lists "motiondetectorstate" which I think should be "motiondetectorstatus" but I can't see that responding as a motion sensor.
I'm trying MQTT now and can get it to trigger motion with this config:
binary_sensor:
- platform: mqtt
name: name here
state_topic: "fully/event/onMotion/device ID here"
value_template: "{{ value_json.type }}"
payload_on: "visual"
device_class: motion
But then I need another payload to clear the motion. Any ideas?
Yeah try this;
# Fire HD10 Motion
- platform: mqtt
name: name
state_topic: 'fully/event/onMotion/deviceID'
device_class: motion
off_delay: 10
payload_on: 'on'
payload_off: 'off'
value_template: "{% if value_json.event == 'onMotion' %}on{% else %}off{% endif %}"
qos: 1
@@makeitworktech Magic. Works perfectly - worth adding to the documentation. Thanks - appreciate you giving out support tips in the RUclips comments section!
No problem!
@@makeitworktech I am facing the same problem. Where should I add this code?
I was able to put it in configuration.yaml, but is always on "Clear"
I have one issue with my dashboard/wall panel
How do I force zoom settings
Example: Default= 100% zoom
I need 75% zoom
How do I force these settings in {FKB or the HA app}. since I don't like resetting/changing zoom every time I change the page/layout
WallPanel app on Android is perhaps not as flexible but far easier to setup and gives me all the control I need.
I've never tried it! Can you pull the tablet sensors and camera into home assistant as entities?
@@makeitworktech, I have the front facing cameras streaming to Home Assistant through the WallPanel app.
Just checked and it has MQTT sensor publishing.
Awesome! Sounds like a great alternative!
What software did you use to get the images for your person icons? I want to do something similar, but not finding anything that I like.
I used bitmoji
Very good info. But I don’t have time for all of this. Does any one sell this already configured, and a kit with all that’s needed to mount?
Not that I know of! Unfortunately it's a bit of DIY
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so if we dont have a sensors.yaml or cameras.yaml file what do we do? i tried jsut creating one from sratch and following the tutorial but its not working
You need to add this to your configuration.yaml
camera:
!include cameras.yaml
Same thing but with sensor, and sensors.yaml
You should check out this documentation for info on how to split up your configuration.yaml
www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
Do you have a video on how to create a lovelace dashboard?
No I don't, was thinking of making one at some point!
Any tips for degrading performance? I'm not 100% sure of the cause, but I rolled three HD10s in my house, wall mounted, and everything was great for several months. Then suddenly a few weeks ago performance on every tablet tanked. Lovelace was slow and laggy. Moving to different lovelace pages caused a slow spinning wheel. Buttons would be unresponsive when pressed, but a press would cause FullyKiosk to refresh the page, and the button would work again. Meanwhile HA/Lovelace performance from a PC browser or on iOS device (iphone & iPad) remained perfectly fine.
I presumed this to be an Amazon update, so this morning I pulled one of the tablets down and re-performed all of the toolbox tasks and double checked my full kiosk settings. Performance seems to have improved but still doesn't feel as snappy as before. Any ideas?
Hey Steve, I noticed the same thing, but I'm not sure if the cause. One thing that I did that helped was to have FK auto refresh every once in awhile. I believe that's in the settings of fully kiosk. You could give that a try. Also try comparing it to the home assistant app on the tablet and also a regular browser on the tablet as well, to see if it's just FK doing it
Can you use this without using Home Assistant? How would the final setup look like without Home Assistant?
I guess you would just have a tablet on a wall with the ability to remotely control it using the fully kiosk web address
All working perfect, but probably I've a problem with the comand for watching the camera in lovelace. I found the device but the image doesn't work. I have a Tab Samsung Galaxy 10 with android 7.1.1
Hmmm, did you allow fully kiosk to have access to the camera?
@@makeitworktech yes if I'm going to fully and make a screenshot it works good. Just in HA have the problem
Hey man,
I've run into a problem using my Fire HD 7. When I try to load HASS via the Home Assistant app it doesn't seem to load any of the lovelace pages. Same when I use Fully Kiosk. Any thoughts on why this might happen?
Hi Adam, so it's not giving you an error that the URL is wrong? You can try pulling down to refresh, bit it's weird it's happening in both FK and the HA app. That makes it seem like something changed with HA rather than your tablet
I liked your idea so much I ended up copying your project. However, I ran into a small issue. If I put the faceplate on the mount, my tablet doesn't work. In fact the screen stops responding to input. I have to then remove the faceplate and push the power button momentarily and everything starts working. Also, I noticed the screen doesn't go into sleep if I put the faceplate on. Clearly the faceplate is hitting something on the tablet that is messing up the screen. Everything works if I leave the faceplate off. Just looks a little ugly. Any ideas?
Hmmmm, I'm not sure! You have all the same stuff?
The screen should work no matter what...
You have the Fully Kiosk stay awake setting off?
Thanks for creating such an amazing and in-depth step-by-step video. I followed everything you did and am able to log into the tablet via port 2323. I followed all your steps for fully kiosk settings and when I sign into Home Assistant all I see is a blank screen and blue title bar on top. I tried accessing HA via Chrome on my Fire10 tablet and it displays everything just fine. Any ideas?
Thanks! Best bet is there's something wrong with the Start URL for Fully Kiosk. Make sure that's correctly pointing to Home Assistant. Try it like this:
:8123/
@@makeitworktech It is pointing to correct URL because I am prompted with HA login screen. After I enter username and password that I get blank screen and nothing shows up.
missed that, I'm tired haha Which FK app did you use? Google Play Store or the special one for fire tablets from the Fully Kiosk website?
@@makeitworktech No worries and it just started working now after me retrying to logging in and swiping down to refresh :) once again great video and very easy to follow. Now time to start making my own custom dashboards.
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Did you mount that recessed outlet to a stud or is it just secured to the drywall?
It's an "old work box" which means there are little tabs that secure it to the drywall
@@makeitworktech oh nice thanks! also is there a way to use this as a google home device instead of an amazon echo?
I believe you can replace Alexa with Google Assistant using the Fire Toolbox
Hello thanks fot the video
I have a problem with Home assistant en fully webbrowser
when there is somthing happening in the garden the camera in recognize it but when the screensaver in Fully is on there no picture of the camera when stop by tck on screen then I see the picture of the camera I think there must be trigger so that screensaver go dwon an d show me the camera picture
I hope you understand me and maybe you have a sollution
many regards jan from the Netherlands
I had big problems with screensaver, I had to turn it off. Maybe that's your problem?
its the same process for the new fire HD 2021?
Should be, but I'm about to find out in a week or so! Just picked one up and am going to do the same thing.
There is a fully kiosk integration in HACS, so I may try that.
One question: I bought an Amazon Fire HD 10 (10th generation) on Amazon. I just unpacked It. It tells me there is a software update available. Can i update it before using the toolbox? Or does it break the "hack"?
I think it's ok to update the tablet, but you should just be able to factory reset if it messes something up. I can't remember if mine updated first, sorry about that!
@@makeitworktech thanks!!!
Motion detection > i put it on 10% but now my tablet is always on, i put it out with switch and a few seconds later it goes on, i put motion detection off, it still goes on. What setting to correct it?
Hey I'm not sure! Make sure audio and and visual motion detection are both off?
Hi, great video for beginners. Thank you. Well your UI looks awesome, can you share your lovelace UI and can do a video on it.
Sorry I missed this.. I'll add it to the list - but I can't promise when!
Nice project. However would like to see more of the final product than you.
Noted! I'm working on a better way to record videos, so hopefully I can include more A roll
will it work with Alexa and ring security ?
No
@@makeitworktech thank guess i will keep looking lol
GREAT video!!! I am IT dummy as I can figure out it. I'm stuck at the Start URL (not sure what to add here). I had the Home Assistant app then removed it because I struggled so badly configuring the two. I'm afraid to say that I need handholding or a more simplified explanation. Also, is there anything additionally that I need to do inside the router/modem? I tried the IP address with port 2323 and from a browser, I cant reach it; this is the message: 192.168.1.42 refused to connect.
Easiest way to find out what to put for Start URL is to log into HA via a web browser as you normally would, and then navigate to the page you want to be displayed on the tablet. Then look at the address bar... That's the URL you need to put into the Start URL field
@@makeitworktech it turns out I need to install HA on my laptop then use the UI on the tablet. So another question would be is which version to I install on a 'non dedicated server'?
Yeah this guide is just for viewing the UI. Not sure what you mean by which version?
@@makeitworktech from this im thinking this cannot be installed onto a laptop. Thats the option I'm looking for.
Install Home Assistant Operating System
VirtualBox (.vdi)
KVM (.qcow2)
Vmware Workstation (.vmdk)
Hyper-V (.vhdx)
Hmm, might be easier to get a raspberry pi and install it on that
Which theme are you using for home assistant?
iOS theme from HACS
How does this handle MFA? You're all using MFA on your systems right?
Where would you expect MFA?
@@makeitworktech In the sign on to the device in the fully kiosk software. All of my accounts require MFA. So if you're exposing your Home Assistant, and in turn, your entire HOME to the outside world without MFA even with reverse proxy, you're asking for what comes with it. Something like this should be secured, with MFA. 100% of the time.
@8BitLife FK isn't exposed to the outside world. It's a local solution. I don't use MFA to sign into a device locally since that requires access to my network. Edit: Fully Cloud is an option, but I've never used it.
@Make It Work but your ha is right? How are you logging into it, via fully kiosk without mfa?
I use MFA to login to HA, yes
Hmm tried to connect my new fire (9th gen) to Windows 10 on Parallels Mac installed ADB drivers but toolbox can not find the Fire. There must be an option on the tablet to enable mass storage? But Where?
2:31 - enable developer options and then it's in that menu
@@makeitworktech where?
I dit every switch on.
Oh, now with a nuc with windows it works.
@MakeitWork, where is the code to create the camera entity for the tablet?
12:27
@@makeitworktech I was looking for a copy and paste article over a video. When translating what is on the video screen to my instance of HA I do not get a camera image. Do you happen to have a source article or github where I could view the code in text?
Can you add Siri to this? I’m pretty invested in the homepod ecosystem
Add Siri to the tablet? Or to Home Assistant?
@@makeitworktech tablet
No, I don't think so
Is there a reason to do it like this and not with the HA App?
Yeah, device administration and access to the camera, motion sensor, etc
Nice video and I've subscribed I'm just going to have to remember to skip the first 10 seconds of your videos though.
I understand it's a gimmick to stand out from the crowd but i hate the slurping a drink noises...😬😀
Hahaha thanks for the feedback! 😂
I think I've done that just 2 times, but you'll never know which videos haha
I'll make sure not to do that in the future ☕
I cannot get this to work for the life of me I have double checked everything and have a MQTT broker any way you could point me in the right direction?
Hop on my discord and I can give it a shot. Send screenshots of where you're stuck
where is the sensors.yml. I had to ass a new file but nothing is showing up after restart
It's part of splitting out your configuration file - good practice. In your configuration file, you add "sensor: !include sensors.yaml" and then put all your sensors in that file.
Check out this link, it should help you. Join my discord if you need more help!
www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/
@@makeitworktech Thanks for the advice now it shows up but it shows up as one entity with no sensors. do I need to break out the sensors individually?
One entity should have many attributes. Join my discord if you need more help! FYI, there is a Fully Kiosk integration in HA
Has anyone tried this with a 2021 Fire HD 10 is there a reason to stick with the 2019 Version??? The new ones are 60$ less....
Yeah i did it with the 2021 - much better
struggling to find the entity in HA! I have it in MQTT I can see it in MQTT Explorer but despite everything I don't have the device in Home Assistant. I even restarted the server. Weird.
You set up the rest sensor and it's not showing?
@@makeitworktech I did - that's whats so odd. I didn't have a sensors.yaml so I made it and put it in. I don't see the device in HA>. I am re-reading that thread you linked to on the forums but I don't see if there were updates for more current version of HA (I am running latest). Im sure I screwed something up :). I tested the secret URL and I can bring that up without ap problem so I don't think that's the issue. Again - Strange. Thanks for the fast reply!
Is your configuration.yaml file including the sensors.yaml file properly? That could be it
@@makeitworktech Thanks for the help - that was exactly the problem! I guess I hinted at it when I said I added the file. Silly me thought it would just get sucked up by the configuration.yaml. Still learning. Thanks for the help again and the patience. Great video - very helpful!
@@bigneilh glad you got it!!
is it okay to charge it all the time like that?
Based on my research, it is best to keep the battery level at an average of 50%. I'm working on a video explaining how I did this
wrong url dismised error its realy anoying me rn help
If still an issue - hit up our discord!
Wow
I wish there was an easier way to do this
I hear ya
@@makeitworktech 😉
i want that dashboard
Ain't she a beauty!
hmm i can connect with mqtt but i don't see my fire on devices
Make sure you have your Fire tablet connected to your Amazon account for it to show up!
@@makeitworktech aah, i don't think i have an Account on Amazon.
O i just saw i have an Amazon account and my fire is also registered.
Make sure you have the Alexa Media Player add on!
Anyone is aware of an STL to print for this 3d printed tablet wall mount?
Here is one someone on Reddit shared. Not the same one, but better than none?
www.thingiverse.com/thing:4642205
amazon ruined everything.. im stuck on a black screen always because amazon keeps updating the tablet and destroying everything.. Blocking updates no longer works after fire os 3.2 ...
I've never blocked updates... Did you use the fire tool kit to install Google Play services, or did you just use the Amazon stock features?
@@makeitworktech I followed all your steps the only difference was at a very early stage I got a massive warning which you didn't have.. Saying amazon are blocking changes to the auto update/blocking updates since 3.2.something.. And now this only works for a couple hours.. Then it reverts back to having all the crappy amazon apps and kiosk just gives me a black screen
It's so anoying because I've had this video on my watch later for agessss.. and bought the tablet ages ago too on summer prime sales and just had the time to install it all today as I redid all my HA system.. 😭😭
Wow, that's a pain! I wonder if you can downgrade it to an older firmware version and then block the updating.
@@makeitworktech I have a solution.. Not the most elegant one but a solution.. Install everything I need to and then block all external Internet access to the table.. So I have a local connection and everything works as it should but its all local.. I just forgot to buy the license so I'm worried the whole thing will fall apart when I turn on Internet to buy it 😂😂