Great tutorial! I would highly recommend too install smart socket to power on/off charging of the tablet and keep it charged between approximately 40-80% charged via an automation. Otherwise very high chance that always fully charged battery will die very quickly. Had 2 tablets failed, one nearly cracked the screens due to swollen battery. I am using Fully Kiosk Browser Plus on all my wall dashboards. Very future research Browser with motion detection on/off display and many more useful options!
Thanks mate 🙂 Yes, very good point with the batteries, and in fact the Lenovo tablet has a feature that detects "always plugged in" mode and modulates it for you so the battery stays 40-80% charged.
Nice install, but I'm going to say the wall mounted one in the office is going to be a nuisance. Every time you want to interact with it you have to get up and walk over to the wall, which is why a desk mounted solution might have made more sense in an office setup. The other thing to consider is controlling the charge of the batteries. Probably keeping them around 60% makes sense. You'll kill them pretty quickly if you keep them at 100%.
Thanks mate. I am not the only one using the office, and the tablet is mounted where we walk through the most, so it works well for everyone. I am not always at my desk either, so I did think through where to place it ☺ You are right though, that you should place the tablets where it make sense. With the batteries, Lenovo has a clever feature where the tablet realises if it is plugged in for extended periods of time and then only charges the battery to 60-80%, as to prolong its life. 👌
Gotten myself a Lenovo M8 gen4 which I am gonna use for a dashboard/panel/kiosk the screenpinning software is quite nice as you wouldn't need kiosk apps anymore, hope it still works with apps to automatically close/turn off the screen.
The kiosk apps still offer a few more features, such as not having Chrome crashing 😂. You can also use the camera for motion events to turn it on and more. Overall though, pinning works just fine for me.
Hey, thanks forv a very detailed video. I didnt really get what you exactly did after the installation of Kioskmode from HACS. Yoe have explaned the settings, but how did you manage to make it valid for a dashboard? The second is: the tablett is whole of the time on the power thru the cable. Its nit very good for the batterie, isnt it? Do you use something to interrupt the power to let the battery work, and after that to go back to power? Thx
For kiosk mode, I am simply pinning the Chrome browser, which makes it stick. You need the pin to go out of it. Lenovo tablets have a smart charging feature, which means it charges to between 60% and 80%. Definitely don't want to charge them all the time. Thanks for watching 😊
Great video and much appreciated! I am having an issue with Kiosk mode. I downloaded it from HACS but when it runs on the tablet it isnt in Kiosk mode. Are there further steps to get this to run other than just downloading it? Also, to make the address bar in Chrome disappear by saving it to the home screen isnt working. Is there another way? I followed exactly what you did over and over but the address bar refuses to go away.
Have you added the kiosk_mode: hide_header: true To the dashboard's raw editor at the top as shown at 15:25? Regarding the address bar, I am not sure why it doesn't work. There are actual "kiosk apps" run can download and buy too, which have more features such as wake on camera movement and more.
@@chrisgoble4620 All good. Welcome to the rabbit hole 😁 Add that to the top of the YAML for the dashboard, which you find under the "raw configuration editor" , which is accessed through the three dots menu in the top right corner of the dashboard edit screen.
I can also recommend the app Wallpanel. I'm using it since years with no problems. If you enable the face detection the screen goes on automatically if you stand infront of your tablet. If no motion is detected, it goes completely dark and also helps to save energy (and the livetime of the tablet). It also enables some neat sensor that can be integrated into home assistant via mqtt. So give it a try - it's worth the effort. BTW: you should set the max. battery charge (SOC) of your tablet to 70% or 80% - the battery will thank you ;-)
Thanks Vitor. I am not sure the P11 tablet supports wireless charging. There are mounts available on Etsy, but I don't think any are magnetic. There isn't a huge market for mounting tablets, so most are made by enthusiasts like the mounts I got.
Does anyone know if it is possible to have an event change the layout of a dashboard or temporary change a client to a different one? I would for example like when someone rings the doorbell that the video feed shows up in Fullscreen on the dashboard untill there is no more movement for example, and then go back to the normal dashboard.
How are you going to prevent burn-in on the display? (Personally I wish there was a motion sensor that would automatically turn it on/off like the Ecobee thermostats do
Hi Lars. Thanks for the video. I read somewhere else on the internet, that there is an issue with the combination between the P11 and the frame from Smarthome mount. The frame should cover for the motion sensor, which means that the tablet doesn´t react on movements in kiosk mode. Do you have this issue?
Good question. Afaik the P11 doesn't have a motion sensor, so I don't think that is a problem. I certainly have noticed anything that didn't work. I used one of the tables for some months without the mount before I made the video and I never noticed a motion sensor then either. Have you got a link to the issue?
My samsung tab a8 always has to refresh when detecting motion. Does your dashboards have to do that too? I’m using the plus version of fully kiosk browser.
No, I don't think my tablet detects motion, and it doesn't refresh. I wasn't aware of the fully kiosk browser. I probably don't need it, but a good alternative 👍
@@LarsKlintTech Was going to mention this also, the fully kiosk browser can leverage the camera of the tablet as a motion sensor, and also as a light sensor to turnoff in darkness. Its only 4 euros a screen and adds a bunch enterprise style management to the tablet, I never have to go into the settings of the tablet, all done via fully kiosk. Its a great power up for the HA kisok only add on.
@@LarsKlintTech and that is the tricky bit, to get mine looking OK-ish and to have buttons I can resize, i used a combo of Mushroom cards, button-cards and then nesting grids within grids to control spacing. The native experience is not so good, as I'm sure you have found out
What are you using for your water level sensor?. I have a R.O. System and would like more information on how to monitor my tanks level and also integrate into Home Assistant.
@@LarsKlintTech I do!! Fun fact, that racoon is my team's official mascot. Oh, btw, I will be soon replicating your mounted HA setup at home. Which me luck :D
@@wassimchegham So you are the guy to go to for racoon swag. Noted! You will do well my friend. Also, look into kiosk apps, depending on your requirements. There are some that will do much more than I show in the video. For example, the Wallpanel app.
I just run a browser for mine, for that reason. I suspect it would just drop back to the desktop as you say. When HA is updated I do need to refresh the HA dashboard too, even when using a browser.
Cool trick here to cycle the battery charging to keep the battery from bloating: ruclips.net/video/tb9Qe4fjt24/видео.html (6min in) Also a lot of other good tips. Combined that video with your tips for an awesome experience.
If you get a quality tablet (like Lenovo 😏) there is a feature that keeps the battery charged between 60-80% to prolong it's life. No need for ugly plugs 😁
Yes, and no. The screen changes frequently as sensors and cameras update, and the battery is only charged to 60-80% through the software. I have considered using a kiosk app, which will let me use the camera as a motion sensor, so I might do that soon.
I'm jelous of this walls made of carton which you can basically cut with knife (living in a flat with concrete walls). Also I feel like you would not have to put a socket in a wall but use embedded power supply with type c cable output.
It's about the only time it is useful to have these silly walls 😜 I'd take proper insulation any day over this. There are many ways to install the screens. I went for the in wall recessed power points as that is more versatile in case I upgrade or replace the devices.
Thanks for all the pointers. They've streamlined the config for kiosk mode now, thankfully!
kiosk_mode:
non_admin_settings:
kiosk: true
Thanks for sharing that into Craig. Yes, it certainly has got much easier, which is the beauty of HA. It is improved all the time by the community 😊
Great tutorial! I would highly recommend too install smart socket to power on/off charging of the tablet and keep it charged between approximately 40-80% charged via an automation. Otherwise very high chance that always fully charged battery will die very quickly. Had 2 tablets failed, one nearly cracked the screens due to swollen battery.
I am using Fully Kiosk Browser Plus on all my wall dashboards. Very future research Browser with motion detection on/off display and many more useful options!
Thanks mate 🙂 Yes, very good point with the batteries, and in fact the Lenovo tablet has a feature that detects "always plugged in" mode and modulates it for you so the battery stays 40-80% charged.
Another vote for Fully Kiosk App.
Good to know about the Lenovo, because I immediately had the same concern.
Nice install, but I'm going to say the wall mounted one in the office is going to be a nuisance. Every time you want to interact with it you have to get up and walk over to the wall, which is why a desk mounted solution might have made more sense in an office setup. The other thing to consider is controlling the charge of the batteries. Probably keeping them around 60% makes sense. You'll kill them pretty quickly if you keep them at 100%.
Thanks mate. I am not the only one using the office, and the tablet is mounted where we walk through the most, so it works well for everyone. I am not always at my desk either, so I did think through where to place it ☺ You are right though, that you should place the tablets where it make sense. With the batteries, Lenovo has a clever feature where the tablet realises if it is plugged in for extended periods of time and then only charges the battery to 60-80%, as to prolong its life. 👌
@@LarsKlintTech Perfect!
I love the “that’s a different number in imperial.” I’m in the states thinking, “Great, so it weighs about not 800 ounces” lol
Hahaha, exactly 😛😛
Gotten myself a Lenovo M8 gen4 which I am gonna use for a dashboard/panel/kiosk
the screenpinning software is quite nice as you wouldn't need kiosk apps anymore, hope it still works with apps to automatically close/turn off the screen.
The kiosk apps still offer a few more features, such as not having Chrome crashing 😂. You can also use the camera for motion events to turn it on and more. Overall though, pinning works just fine for me.
Nice, I'm jealous and need to sort out something like that myself now. Thanks for sharing.
Do it. Go. Be awesome 💪
I did that whit my old Samsung Tab 👍
It is a very nice addition that elevates your home automation experience I think 🥰
love the t-shirt
Small batch nerdery tshirt 🤓
@@LarsKlintTech I figured… those are the best kind
Very nice! I copied the link in case I get a chance to work on this.. Thank you!
Thanks Bob. Appreciate the watch. Let me know if you do decide to set up dashboards too. Would love to see your implementation.
Great video, thank you
You are most welcome mate. Thanks for watching ☺
I'm new to all this... Why not use the android app over a browser view?
Any pros/cons to either?
You can use either. I chose the web display as it allows any tablet to be used.
Hey, thanks forv a very detailed video.
I didnt really get what you exactly did after the installation of Kioskmode from HACS.
Yoe have explaned the settings, but how did you manage to make it valid for a dashboard?
The second is: the tablett is whole of the time on the power thru the cable.
Its nit very good for the batterie, isnt it?
Do you use something to interrupt the power to let the battery work, and after that to go back to power?
Thx
For kiosk mode, I am simply pinning the Chrome browser, which makes it stick. You need the pin to go out of it.
Lenovo tablets have a smart charging feature, which means it charges to between 60% and 80%. Definitely don't want to charge them all the time.
Thanks for watching 😊
Great video and much appreciated! I am having an issue with Kiosk mode. I downloaded it from HACS but when it runs on the tablet it isnt in Kiosk mode. Are there further steps to get this to run other than just downloading it? Also, to make the address bar in Chrome disappear by saving it to the home screen isnt working. Is there another way? I followed exactly what you did over and over but the address bar refuses to go away.
Have you added the
kiosk_mode:
hide_header: true
To the dashboard's raw editor at the top as shown at 15:25?
Regarding the address bar, I am not sure why it doesn't work. There are actual "kiosk apps" run can download and buy too, which have more features such as wake on camera movement and more.
@@LarsKlintTech I have not tried that. How do I do that? I am very new to HA, VERY
@@chrisgoble4620 All good. Welcome to the rabbit hole 😁
Add that to the top of the YAML for the dashboard, which you find under the "raw configuration editor" , which is accessed through the three dots menu in the top right corner of the dashboard edit screen.
There's an app called Wallpanel which can do everything and without being so much hassle to set up
That looks really good! I might have a play with using that, as that could address "always-on" problem with screen wear/burn-in and more.
I can also recommend the app Wallpanel. I'm using it since years with no problems. If you enable the face detection the screen goes on automatically if you stand infront of your tablet. If no motion is detected, it goes completely dark and also helps to save energy (and the livetime of the tablet). It also enables some neat sensor that can be integrated into home assistant via mqtt. So give it a try - it's worth the effort. BTW: you should set the max. battery charge (SOC) of your tablet to 70% or 80% - the battery will thank you ;-)
Hello, great work! Do you know other lenovo p11 tablet mount with wireless charger? I am searching a holder with magnetic and wireless charger.
Thanks Vitor. I am not sure the P11 tablet supports wireless charging. There are mounts available on Etsy, but I don't think any are magnetic. There isn't a huge market for mounting tablets, so most are made by enthusiasts like the mounts I got.
Does anyone know if it is possible to have an event change the layout of a dashboard or temporary change a client to a different one?
I would for example like when someone rings the doorbell that the video feed shows up in Fullscreen on the dashboard untill there is no more movement for example, and then go back to the normal dashboard.
Good question Robert. Someone on the HA forum kinda figure it out: community.home-assistant.io/t/change-dashboard-on-event/38436/9
How are you going to prevent burn-in on the display? (Personally I wish there was a motion sensor that would automatically turn it on/off like the Ecobee thermostats do
the fully kiosk app can take care of this. It will use the camera as a motion trigger.
@@swinters3369 Ah, very good to know. My dashboards do update pretty regularly, but burn-in is certainly a risk.
Hi Lars. Thanks for the video. I read somewhere else on the internet, that there is an issue with the combination between the P11 and the frame from Smarthome mount. The frame should cover for the motion sensor, which means that the tablet doesn´t react on movements in kiosk mode. Do you have this issue?
Good question. Afaik the P11 doesn't have a motion sensor, so I don't think that is a problem. I certainly have noticed anything that didn't work. I used one of the tables for some months without the mount before I made the video and I never noticed a motion sensor then either. Have you got a link to the issue?
Tips on pinning the app. Do you wake/sleep/leave your app always on?
Are you asking for, or offering tips? 🤔
Just to let you know Lenovo doesn't sell the tablet anymore on their website😢
Thanks Antony. It was bound to happen ☺
What light sliders did you use?
I am not sure what you are referring to. What are light sliders?
My samsung tab a8 always has to refresh when detecting motion. Does your dashboards have to do that too? I’m using the plus version of fully kiosk browser.
No, I don't think my tablet detects motion, and it doesn't refresh. I wasn't aware of the fully kiosk browser. I probably don't need it, but a good alternative 👍
@@LarsKlintTech Was going to mention this also, the fully kiosk browser can leverage the camera of the tablet as a motion sensor, and also as a light sensor to turnoff in darkness. Its only 4 euros a screen and adds a bunch enterprise style management to the tablet, I never have to go into the settings of the tablet, all done via fully kiosk. Its a great power up for the HA kisok only add on.
@@ian9033Yep, exactly. Might be a future upgrade. I think I want to make the dashboards themselves look better first though.
@@LarsKlintTech and that is the tricky bit, to get mine looking OK-ish and to have buttons I can resize, i used a combo of Mushroom cards, button-cards and then nesting grids within grids to control spacing. The native experience is not so good, as I'm sure you have found out
What are you using for your water level sensor?. I have a R.O. System and would like more information on how to monitor my tanks level and also integrate into Home Assistant.
Good question, so I made a whole video about the setup (just for you 😉): ruclips.net/video/N90C9Xge8Z4/видео.html
Nice t-shirt ❤
Thought you might like it mate 😏
@@LarsKlintTech I do!! Fun fact, that racoon is my team's official mascot. Oh, btw, I will be soon replicating your mounted HA setup at home. Which me luck :D
@@wassimchegham So you are the guy to go to for racoon swag. Noted!
You will do well my friend. Also, look into kiosk apps, depending on your requirements. There are some that will do much more than I show in the video. For example, the Wallpanel app.
Out of interest, what happens when the HA android app updates? Does it not just drop back to the desktop?
I just run a browser for mine, for that reason. I suspect it would just drop back to the desktop as you say. When HA is updated I do need to refresh the HA dashboard too, even when using a browser.
Cool trick here to cycle the battery charging to keep the battery from bloating: ruclips.net/video/tb9Qe4fjt24/видео.html (6min in)
Also a lot of other good tips. Combined that video with your tips for an awesome experience.
If you get a quality tablet (like Lenovo 😏) there is a feature that keeps the battery charged between 60-80% to prolong it's life. No need for ugly plugs 😁
keep screen on is bad idea
Yes, and no. The screen changes frequently as sensors and cameras update, and the battery is only charged to 60-80% through the software. I have considered using a kiosk app, which will let me use the camera as a motion sensor, so I might do that soon.
@@LarsKlintTech thats is great idea! Thnks!
I'm jelous of this walls made of carton which you can basically cut with knife (living in a flat with concrete walls). Also I feel like you would not have to put a socket in a wall but use embedded power supply with type c cable output.
It's about the only time it is useful to have these silly walls 😜 I'd take proper insulation any day over this.
There are many ways to install the screens. I went for the in wall recessed power points as that is more versatile in case I upgrade or replace the devices.