What's crazy is that the power difference in charge timing is pretty small for the rest of the characters. But for Waluigi, he gets a MASSIVE boost if you time it right.
@UC_oIQBMIWS_wVHHDxL_F3Ow I get that it sounds stupid to preach about something that many find obvious. But the difference in power for charge timing is so small that many people (including me) thought there was none. And I don't think many kids figured out the waluigi strategy ;)
Hey, I hit a home run with Waluigi WITHOUT charging up, but it is VERY BAD quality, you can’t even see what’s going on. Should I upload it or film one with better quality?
It’s really interesting to see more being discovered abt the game, such as this glitch. Also, with the type of hit being predetermined, the question becomes what is causing the probability of it being a home run to increase/decrease on any given pitch?
In Superstar Baseball, there's an RNG seed on each pitch that will give you the same trajectory for hits as well. I'm not sure when it's determined but it's possible that it looks several pitches or even follows a sequence for certain at bats. Not entirely sure what the specifics are but it seems to be a similar case for Sluggers.
@@MarioSluggersFanclub Yep, definitely seems like a lot of stuff got carried over which is pretty neat to see. A lot of people don't notice bc the communities are pretty split.
I honestly thought that when people told to charge late with waluigi that they were just memeing, but after I saw your video I went to test it out myself. The first time I charge late with waluigi he hits an amazing dinger and I was speechless. I'm definitely will try to incorporate waluigi into my team after this.
I guess I underestimated Waluigi in this game. I always had trouble landing a hit with Waluigi at bat, but this is a really neat discovery! Waluigi certainly had some tricks up his sleeve and I didn't even know it! 😅
I really don’t like that the hits are predetermined it’s so bad for competitive play. Even if you get the read and good timing on the pitch it should be a HR but it is a fly out sometimes. That’s just bad.
@@MarioSluggersFanclub A "perfect" hit isnt always a dinger but it is usually a good double or triple, in sluggers the good hits that weren't dingers were line-outs
theres other players who have crazy slap hits such as magikoopas, king boo, boo, and boomerang bro. Whenever these player hit the ball in the air to the opposite field, it keeps carrying and carrying
I remember using Mario as a batter then I did a late charge swing and it was hit when the charge zone was big but I somehow got a slap hit it was confusing.
I remember in Mario Superstar Baseball there was a batting tutorial that mentioned timing your charged bat swings to get a more powerful hit. Though, I don't remember if Sluggers mentions this in-game as well. However, I didn't realize in Sluggers that hits were predetermined. I am wondering if that is also the case in Superstar Baseball as well?
I feel like this could be related to the pitch being thrown, and not about the game predetermining how much power you swing with. Like you could be getting the same result every time because it was an identical pitch from the CPU, not because the game deciding how much power each pitch can be hit by your bat. Idk though, just a fan of the game 😂 #BringSluggersToSwitch
The level 1 cpu throws pretty much only 2 or 3 pitches regularly, usually throwing a non charged pitch most of the time. It’s pretty easy to see that you can get very different hits even with the same pitches. #BringSluggersToSwitchOrANewGame
What's crazy is that the power difference in charge timing is pretty small for the rest of the characters. But for Waluigi, he gets a MASSIVE boost if you time it right.
@UC_oIQBMIWS_wVHHDxL_F3Ow I get that it sounds stupid to preach about something that many find obvious. But the difference in power for charge timing is so small that many people (including me) thought there was none. And I don't think many kids figured out the waluigi strategy ;)
Hey, I hit a home run with Waluigi WITHOUT charging up, but it is VERY BAD quality, you can’t even see what’s going on. Should I upload it or film one with better quality?
@@MrUproot you do realize that Waluigi was Luigi’s negative counterpart.
I love how this game is so old and people are still making discoveries
That's what I love about Sluggers and Smash Bros Melee
@@gi5897 and Mario Kart Wii
@@fnafonfire3704 yeah that one too.
That's why Waluigi isn't in Smash, because he would be canonically stronger than Master Hand _obviously_
*Sephiroth
@@Oldschoolgamer13 ah ofc.
On the official description with Waluigi, it says "Charge swings drop power, but increase hits." Maybe that's why.
Was gonna say, I thought this was mentioned in the game. I never tested it to be sure but i remembered the game saying something about it
It’s really interesting to see more being discovered abt the game, such as this glitch.
Also, with the type of hit being predetermined, the question becomes what is causing the probability of it being a home run to increase/decrease on any given pitch?
It's just RNG values that the game pulls at the start of the at-bat. Power characters are more likely to get values that give homers.
“If we load up really early….oh he got a home run..”
LOL this happens when you try to do it in one take
In Superstar Baseball, there's an RNG seed on each pitch that will give you the same trajectory for hits as well. I'm not sure when it's determined but it's possible that it looks several pitches or even follows a sequence for certain at bats. Not entirely sure what the specifics are but it seems to be a similar case for Sluggers.
Ohhh interesting. It seems like a lot of the underlying stuff is the same from SSB.
@@MarioSluggersFanclub Yep, definitely seems like a lot of stuff got carried over which is pretty neat to see. A lot of people don't notice bc the communities are pretty split.
Honestly there’s probably a lot that the speedrun community has figured out that we don’t know of. Not much mixing.
I honestly thought that when people told to charge late with waluigi that they were just memeing, but after I saw your video I went to test it out myself. The first time I charge late with waluigi he hits an amazing dinger and I was speechless. I'm definitely will try to incorporate waluigi into my team after this.
I guess I underestimated Waluigi in this game. I always had trouble landing a hit with Waluigi at bat, but this is a really neat discovery! Waluigi certainly had some tricks up his sleeve and I didn't even know it! 😅
Kinda similar to how diddy has no chem with miis were it's just like theres no reason behind it its just kinda there
This feels less like a glitch, and more intentional to me, since his power and slap hits are already reversed.
pls keep making these guides/discoveries they’re interesting
I'm glad to see that the baby monke got a dinger animation this vid
It could be intended if we keep in mind that is waluigi
I accidentally did this glitch in my upcoming sluggers video on my channel, and then I found this.
So hits are predetermined, so I think the hitting stat just increases the chances of hitting a homerun.
Not exactly, the hits are based on the specific character. Just because it’s predetermined doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone.
i love these kind of mythbusting/informative videos!
Ah nothing like a short vid to entertain me while I have the disease that must not be named
:(
wishing u a speedy recovery
@@ryanames4168 Thank you I appreciate it!🙂
I really don’t like that the hits are predetermined it’s so bad for competitive play. Even if you get the read and good timing on the pitch it should be a HR but it is a fly out sometimes. That’s just bad.
I mean, it's good that it's not a home run every time if you get a good hit on it. Would make power hitters too OP.
@@MarioSluggersFanclub I'll just have to touch on this in the comparison video then
You know SSB uses the same system right?
@@MarioSluggersFanclub A "perfect" hit isnt always a dinger but it is usually a good double or triple, in sluggers the good hits that weren't dingers were line-outs
@@nintendocovers242 I assume that perfect hits don't always happen though. That must be random.
theres other players who have crazy slap hits such as magikoopas, king boo, boo, and boomerang bro. Whenever these player hit the ball in the air to the opposite field, it keeps carrying and carrying
I remember using Mario as a batter then I did a late charge swing and it was hit when the charge zone was big but I somehow got a slap hit it was confusing.
I remember in Mario Superstar Baseball there was a batting tutorial that mentioned timing your charged bat swings to get a more powerful hit. Though, I don't remember if Sluggers mentions this in-game as well.
However, I didn't realize in Sluggers that hits were predetermined. I am wondering if that is also the case in Superstar Baseball as well?
I would love to see if you can hit a home run with a character while using a pure slap hit, absolutely no charge
My guess is that if you can, it would be on daisy cruiser at night
CPU getting a triple play 💀💀💀
I got a home run off DKs star pitch
So is the hit predetermined before the ab or is a new hit predetermined before each pitch?
Every hit of the at bat is determined before the at bat
Is u resetting the like pitch a mod?
Just savestates on dolphin
I feel like this could be related to the pitch being thrown, and not about the game predetermining how much power you swing with.
Like you could be getting the same result every time because it was an identical pitch from the CPU, not because the game deciding how much power each pitch can be hit by your bat.
Idk though, just a fan of the game 😂 #BringSluggersToSwitch
The level 1 cpu throws pretty much only 2 or 3 pitches regularly, usually throwing a non charged pitch most of the time. It’s pretty easy to see that you can get very different hits even with the same pitches.
#BringSluggersToSwitchOrANewGame
wow that's so cool
4:17 ha koopa
It's a timing thing
waloogie
why does your game look like it has a HD filter.
Played on Dolphin in 1080p!
Your emulator graphics look way more HD than mines lol
Try turning it up to 1080p!
@@MarioSluggersFanclub I think I have it on 1080
Try turning on per-pixel lighting
Weird
Huh, that's weird