To me the most interesting aspect of the Jack the Ripper case is the historical and social context. I want to congratulate you on doing a wonderful job of bringing the period to life.
You have no idea how much I enjoy all your programmes. You are a fascinating, and naturally gifted presenter, and your uploads are always of superb, highest quality. A huge sincere thank you for this latest, fabulous episode.
So excited whenever you post! It's going to be agonizing but I have to wait till I get to the big TV. As a non-londoner it's the only way for me to watch and get the best picture possible. Thank you, thank you thank you
Been following the story of lechmere for a couple of years now. The details of this video definitely brings the background of the time to the fore. Thank you 👍🏻
Sir, I would be interested in a video on the locations of the 1888-era police stations, morgues, pubs, and other peripheral sites associated with the murders. Thank you.
I've watched most of your videos and thanks for sharing you knowledge on this fascinating subject. Having watched the Channel 5 documentary and your videos afterwards, I am convinced Lechmere was Jack The Ripper, I simply cannot understand how he was overlooked.
Cat food dealership? Horse meat? Butchering? Lechmere becomes a skilled butcher for his mother’s business. He learns to dress meat for the market, opening up the carcass quickly and efficiently, removing meat and organs cleanly. Competent knife wielding skills later employed by him during his JTR murders?
Top notch. Information I had no idea about. Also, the cemetery needs keeping for future generations. A chance to keep it left in time for a thousand years. A gem of a place. Cheers Ed fxor the info
Thank you Edward for another brilliant film! Your research is impeccable and I can only imagine the hours of work you put in to make your fascinating discoveries. The cemetery is an amazing site and should definitely be preserved for its immense historical value. (It’s also very atmospheric and beautiful in a melancholy way.) Its disturbing to think that its threatened by developers. ☹️ Can’t wait for the next video!
If the abdominal wounds had been inflicted prior to the throat wound, wouldn't she have screamed bloody murder and wouldn't that have drawn the attention of anyone who may have been in the area? How would Jack have kept her quiet? Also, it is so sad to see this historical cemetery in such an unkempt condition. Shame and disgrace on the city. Since the city won't do anything about it, perhaps a volunteer group could be formed to clear out the overgrowth, mow the grass, and upright the fallen stones. Thank you for another excellent video, Mr. Stow. Looking forward to viewing your video regarding the Lechmere burials.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Yes, that would be one method of silencing her. I imagine a couple of others would be a powerful bop on the head or a cloth moistened with chloroform.
Yeah there's just no way any logical killer who is wanting to remain undetected us going to go through all the hassle of having to not only keep all off those big heavy dresses & undergarments they wore in those days up with ine hand and go to mutilate with a knife in thr other hand. All the while the woman is screaming & thrashing around, not to mention hitting & attacking him. With his hands full his face is expised & defenseless. She could poke his eyes out and thr instinct would be to go for the throat or a hand over her mouth to shut her up. It just seems totaly chaotic & illogical for a devious killer like Jack to take part in it.
Definitely in this case... Syncope occurred before death but its not absolutely clear what caused it... With the other evidence gathered it looks clear she was unconscious.. I personally would take Harriet Lilley account as a time of death although without seeing the statement I'd have needed more detail in what she said. I've got my own suspicions about the culprit but to be fair I also doubt my own judgement... It can't be proved anyway.. Sometimes it's in the imagination
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 how did you get the original plots though? I've exhausted all I can that what's available online and can't find anything with plot numbers! I have so many plots I could do with finding..any help would be great ful. Would be willing to pay for files too xx
Huge sums spent on social projects, yet areas of interest to future generations left to crumble into dust. There is so much neglect in local boroughs you'd think elected officials would promote initiatives to protect our past. No such luck.
Well, I am a year late to this but will respond regardless. As Edward already said, it's hard to guess by just looking at one photo. However, going by Lechmere's proportions I'm under the impression that he might have been slightly taller than the average man of his generation, so maybe 5'7-5'8. If that would be correct I'd then guess his weight at 155-165 lbs (the higher number applying to his younger self). My own measurements, 196 lbs at 5'10, also helped with my estimation of Lechmere's -- as far as that one is even possible.
I have a ancestor buried in Tower Hamlet Cemetery, I was wondering if you map has the location of the grave? Here is what I know "John Thomas Cox died the 19 November 1862, at 3 o'clock in the afternoon and was buried on 22 November 1862, at Tower Hamlet Cemetery, London, in grave number 1138. He was age three years and eight months and five days."
Do you know if there are any Herbert family members buried in tower hamlets cemetery by any chance. They were my mums relative from east end in late 19th century
It's worth saying that map of the cemetery is a state. Common graves weren't properly listed and some were reused and reused again - the map you have is from the 1880s, I think!
How on earth can Lusks stone not be there anymore? Did someone/group of people carry it off? I mean these things weigh a tonne and what the hell are you going to with it, keep it in your living room??
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I entirely agree with your sentiments, Mr Stow. Another fascinating and enlightening video. Thank you.
To me the most interesting aspect of the Jack the Ripper case is the historical and social context. I want to congratulate you on doing a wonderful job of bringing the period to life.
You have no idea how much I enjoy all your programmes. You are a fascinating, and naturally gifted presenter, and your uploads are always of superb, highest quality.
A huge sincere thank you for this latest, fabulous episode.
So excited whenever you post! It's going to be agonizing but I have to wait till I get to the big TV. As a non-londoner it's the only way for me to watch and get the best picture possible. Thank you, thank you thank you
That’s an interesting look at history. It’s a shame the cemetery is in such neglected shape. Thanks for the tour!
Been following the story of lechmere for a couple of years now. The details of this video definitely brings the background of the time to the fore. Thank you 👍🏻
Such great history, thanks for sharing!
Sir, I would be interested in a video on the locations of the 1888-era police stations, morgues, pubs, and other peripheral sites associated with the murders. Thank you.
A tall order but a video I’d love to see! 👍
Todd B., many of the peripheral site have been presented in Mr. Stow's earlier videos.
Another awesome video Edward. I'm a huge fan of your work. Keep them coming.
I've watched most of your videos and thanks for sharing you knowledge on this fascinating subject. Having watched the Channel 5 documentary and your videos afterwards, I am convinced Lechmere was Jack The Ripper, I simply cannot understand how he was overlooked.
Cat food dealership? Horse meat? Butchering? Lechmere becomes a skilled butcher for his mother’s business. He learns to dress meat for the market, opening up the carcass quickly and efficiently, removing meat and organs cleanly. Competent knife wielding skills later employed by him during his JTR murders?
George Lusk has always fascinated me. Not as a suspect, but as a fellow craving attention, possibly to the point of manufacturing it.
Top notch. Information I had no idea about. Also, the cemetery needs keeping for future generations. A chance to keep it left in time for a thousand years. A gem of a place. Cheers Ed fxor the info
Thank you Edward for another brilliant film! Your research is impeccable and I can only imagine the hours of work you put in to make your fascinating discoveries. The cemetery is an amazing site and should definitely be preserved for its immense historical value. (It’s also very atmospheric and beautiful in a melancholy way.) Its disturbing to think that its threatened by developers. ☹️ Can’t wait for the next video!
Fantastic again Edward 👏
If the abdominal wounds had been inflicted prior to the throat wound, wouldn't she have screamed bloody murder and wouldn't that have drawn the attention of anyone who may have been in the area? How would Jack have kept her quiet? Also, it is so sad to see this historical cemetery in such an unkempt condition. Shame and disgrace on the city. Since the city won't do anything about it, perhaps a volunteer group could be formed to clear out the overgrowth, mow the grass, and upright the fallen stones. Thank you for another excellent video, Mr. Stow. Looking forward to viewing your video regarding the Lechmere burials.
It is also believed she was strangled first, but presumably to unconsciousness rather than death.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Yes, that would be one method of silencing her. I imagine a couple of others would be a powerful bop on the head or a cloth moistened with chloroform.
Yeah there's just no way any logical killer who is wanting to remain undetected us going to go through all the hassle of having to not only keep all off those big heavy dresses & undergarments they wore in those days up with ine hand and go to mutilate with a knife in thr other hand. All the while the woman is screaming & thrashing around, not to mention hitting & attacking him. With his hands full his face is expised & defenseless. She could poke his eyes out and thr instinct would be to go for the throat or a hand over her mouth to shut her up. It just seems totaly chaotic & illogical for a devious killer like Jack to take part in it.
@@cutekanjii
He almost certainly strangled her to unconsciousness first
Definitely in this case... Syncope occurred before death but its not absolutely clear what caused it... With the other evidence gathered it looks clear she was unconscious.. I personally would take Harriet Lilley account as a time of death although without seeing the statement I'd have needed more detail in what she said. I've got my own suspicions about the culprit but to be fair I also doubt my own judgement... It can't be proved anyway.. Sometimes it's in the imagination
My watch for tonight 👏
Another fantastic video! Thanks
It's so odd to think of cemeteries "opening" and "closing"
It's because all of the undeads need to have some time for themselves.^^*
Such impressive knowledge!
How did you get that very special map?😮
A camera, a printer and sellotape!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 how did you get the original plots though? I've exhausted all I can that what's available online and can't find anything with plot numbers! I have so many plots I could do with finding..any help would be great ful. Would be willing to pay for files too xx
The map has each plot number written against each grave
@@naturalbornspiller
Ancestry has the grave numbers against each burial
@Sarah SJ Smith
I provide screen shots of each entry in their original registers which are searchable by name on Ancestry.
This place is why I don't want to be buried in the ground, just cremated and thrown anywhere.
Would be cool to be made into a diamond.
Excellent mimicry, too.
@The House of Lechmere Is Charles Lechmere's grave still extant, and if so do you plan on making a video pilgrimage to the site?
Wait and see!
Huge sums spent on social projects, yet areas of interest to future generations left to crumble into dust. There is so much neglect in local boroughs you'd think elected officials would promote initiatives to protect our past. No such luck.
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Urban Indiana Jones! :D Thx for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.
Reassuring it has survived to this point. Well done for brining a bit of life back to it and it’s story, if you’ll forgive the lame pun.
Lechmere question:
Is his height and weight recorded anyplace? If not, is there any way of estimating those?
There is no record and anything would be a guess based on the one photograph
Well, I am a year late to this but will respond regardless. As Edward already said, it's hard to guess by just looking at one photo. However, going by Lechmere's proportions I'm under the impression that he might have been slightly taller than the average man of his generation, so maybe 5'7-5'8. If that would be correct I'd then guess his weight at 155-165 lbs (the higher number applying to his younger self). My own measurements, 196 lbs at 5'10, also helped with my estimation of Lechmere's -- as far as that one is even possible.
That was great, hope it stays the way it is.
Our greatest vandals are local councils - even before outsiders took them over.
I have a ancestor buried in Tower Hamlet Cemetery, I was wondering if you map has the location of the grave? Here is what I know "John Thomas Cox died the 19 November 1862, at 3 o'clock in the afternoon and was buried on 22 November 1862, at Tower Hamlet Cemetery, London, in grave number 1138. He was age three years and eight months and five days."
Do you know if there are any Herbert family members buried in tower hamlets cemetery by any chance. They were my mums relative from east end in late 19th century
It's worth saying that map of the cemetery is a state. Common graves weren't properly listed and some were reused and reused again - the map you have is from the 1880s, I think!
No it was kept up to date
Agree I don't think they should touch it. 😮
This is the most scary place I have seen
Another year of the cycle of Jack cometh, each year my interest in this case increases.
If lechmere was the ripper why did he stop? Or do you believe he continued but in a different area?
Turning old graveyards into parks etc is nowt new . john dalton of manchester now lives under a 5 a side pitch
How on earth can Lusks stone not be there anymore? Did someone/group of people carry it off? I mean these things weigh a tonne and what the hell are you going to with it, keep it in your living room??
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very intresting sir ...but you do need to get fitter as your breathing is terrible if you smoke you need to quit
Hey EdCan we go for that again? You're very blinky and you can't seem to breathe like a human?
Ok, good, let's go for another take.
@stevencoad where's ya dummy.