The Attack On Emily Smith 1892 - Was It Jack The Ripper?
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2021
- On Guy Fawkes Night, 5th November, 1892, 18-year-old Emily Edith Smith was walking along Cheapside, in the City of London, when she was approached by a man who invited her to go for a cup of tea with him.
After hesitating initially, she agreed, and the couple headed to Fenchurch Street where they stopped off at a low tea shop.
Here, the man asked her to go with him to his office at Upton Park, and, when she consented, the two of them headed to Aldgate where they boarded an omnibus and set off along Whitechapel High Street.
As they went to man pointed out various locations which were connected with the Jack the Ripper murders of a few years previous.
They left the omnibus and took a tramcar to the George IV pub on Commercial Road East, where the alighted and set off along Sutton Street. Stopping for a drink at a beer house, the girl was able to take a good look at her companion, and she was later able to describe him in a great deal of detail.
From the beer house they walked to nearby Station Place, which was so dark that Emily became nervous and refused to go any further, whereupon the man seized hold of her and pulled out a knife with which he attempted to attack her.
Emily was able to fight the man off, and she ran back into Sutton Street, by which time the man had disappeared.
When the newspapers learnt about her ordeal, they published lurid headlines wondering "Has Jack the Ripper Returned?"
In this video we take a detailed look at her account of her ordeal, and end by noting how the man bore an uncanny resemblance to an actual Jack the Ripper suspect.
Her description of the assailant was bang on, the same as two other eyewitnesses. This makes me think about the possibility of "Jack" leaving England after the events of 1888, to only return to his old tricks? Would be interesting to see if there are any accounts between 1888 and 1892 matching "Jack's" MO abroad?
Made me think she read all the papers about Jack the Ripper and copied the descriptions.
There actually are several accounts in the US of similar murders... Perhaps "Jack" went to the US instead of mainland Europe.
Wow!! Another cracking story connected to Jack The Ripper. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Many thanks.
I’m very glad you also show the locations, as even today, we can get quite a sense of the atmosphere of the streets even if they are modernised. Station Place or Shadwell Place still looked somewhat eerie to me now and in fog certainly must have been so.
I’m inclined to believe Emily Smith had a true story, as you said, details were so vivid but I think it unlikely it was Jack The Ripper she encountered. Still we may never know and the similarity to George Chapman and his reference to ‘holidays in Southend’ (where I think one of his wives was killed) did strike me.
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Thank you, Omar.
Another great video. With an impressive story. It must sound strange, but it is interesting how Jack has created an undeletable historical mark that even now stays in the memory of people. As i said great video. Thank you for share this work
Pleased you enjoyed it, Ileana.
The illustrations in those days were amazing. Obviously some were drawn by really talented people.
The ripper strangled first, knife later, so I don't think it was the ripper.
He also didn’t take them on extended dates.
@@andrewadams841 But he did have Tinder
Poor girl. Why the Police did not believe her is strange. Why on earth did she go with a stranger? And to be in the roughest part of London, seems she was not that street wise. Interesting. Nice upload, thank you.
Thank you Richard The only Ripper RUclipsr that know his stuff.
Very kind of you, Mathew.
I don't think I could describe my husband as clearly as this girl described this random man 🙂
Thank you for another well researched and narrated episode .
No sensationalism, just fact after researched fact .
Always brings the period back to life
in all its shabby ness and darkness that was endured by the chattering classes in the richest city in the richest country in the world .
Very kind of you, John.
Superb research yet again; your material truly is quite superb. Quite chilling that the premises titled John Thorlby (on the corner of Station Place) was, even in 1892, actually a pub called 'The Railway Arms'; where in 1997, a young man was stabbed to death.....literally a few feet away from this alleged attack. The 'beer house' in Sutton Street that they initially visited, could well have been The Dover Castle Pub - my local for many years. Just as an aside; and a 'possible' Jack The Ripper link that has sprung to mind. Did this alleged guy know this area quite well - afterall, it's not Whitechapel - but Shadwell E1 - a much smaller locality and close-knit community? Moreover, before you get to the bridge in Sutton Street, is Martha Street. It's then a short walk along Martha Street into Watney Street (an old market thoroughfare). Running just off Watney Street was a pub called The Star (in former Duke Street, then renamed Morris Street). Elizabeth Stride was living in the next street along (Devonshire Street) and along with Martha Tabram, apparently both drank in The Star. Coincidence? Maybe. Or did this guy know his victims sufficiently that they trusted him? Just a hunch.
Thank you, Barry, very kind of you. Yes, I remember the Railway Arms.
In Booth's poverty map, Station Place was coloured black, denoting that it was semi criminal & vicious.
It seems that the Railway Arms pub was only demolished quite recently.
Humans with odd-colored eyes are very rare. If someone was going to make up a villain, that would be a bit too precise, I think. On the other hand, maybe she thought no one will find this mystery villain and prove her wrong. Overall her story sounds credible. Until you got to the part where she saw him in a pub later. Most victims of a traumatic attack would not want him to see them at such a chance encounter and would try to melt into the background. I can't believe she would follow a guy who tried to kill her, even if he was with another guy and two girls.
I think it makes sense. She was trying to work out who he was and possibly where he lived. If you'd nearly been killed wouldn't you want to know who'd done it?
There was probably murders or attacks that happened many years ago that was by Jack The Ripper when he was younger
Is that Lechmere?
2:08 Diffidence: shyness, lack of self-confidence.
Compelling content, as usual. Thanks for the effort.
Glad you enjoy it!
U always talk about subjects I have never heard before ,love tbe narration and,really well put together
Thank you, Anthony, very kind of you.
Another superb video. You have a very obvious and impressive talent at making these and your channel is fast becoming a bit of a RUclips institution for all things JTR. Well done and thank you.
Thank you so much 😀
Anyone who knows the places at the beginning of the event is already thinking… ‘nooo!’ 😳
Another great post Thank you👍
Glad you enjoyed it
One thing I keep thinking with regard to this and other murders and the canonical ones is, what exactly defines a Ripper murder? What makes the 5 the only genuine 5, and other murders at the time, not?
Only 5 could be officially proven to be Jack The Ripper I guess. But my theory is he was killing all his life, he didn't start with 5 women out of no where imo. If not it would maybe make sense these 5 women were assassination type murders, targeted kills for unknown reasons.
I’ve understood it to be because only those 5 are sufficiently similar in terms of who they were and when, how, where and why they were killed.
According the diary of Jack the ripper, maybrick only started killing duo a breakdown of his mental state thanks abusing arsenic and terrible marriage
I personally think Martha Tabrum was his first victim. But of course no one knows.
Jack is very very likely to have strangled his victims first and then used the knife subsequently to mutilate. This sounds like Emily's fantasy of a Ripper attack and not the real deal.
There is no Proof that the ripper ever strangled any of the women as far as I'm aware .
Interesting story, and. as always, presented perfectly. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
You can tell she made it up as there is too much detail in her story.
Great content
Thank you, Steve.
I love your videos, Richard. You are my favorite narrator.
Wow, thanks!
ANother excellent video. Thanks Richard
Very welcome
Really enjoy the videos. For such an historical, watershed moment in the history of serial killers, you'd think there'd be a lot more Ripper content on RUclips. You should do a video on Lechmere. I'd love to hear a summation of that episode in the Ripper history.
Pleased that you enjoy them.
You sound like one of the narrators from Thomas the tank engine 😀, fantastic story teller. Love this, thank you!
You mean Ringo Starr?
Thank you for the compliment, Tracey.
@@Freddie1980 I can hear a similar tone to Ringo.
During the later stages of WW2 some American infantry and tank units were afflicted with “tiger fever”. The fear that a tiger tank was behind every bush, waiting in ambush. This sounds like a case of “Ripper fever”. I believe Emily’s account. On the hand, it must have took some time to exorcise the specter of JTR. Great story as always Rich!
The British faced the Tigers more than the Americans though. Well at least Tiger Is. The Americans didn't even face a single Tiger in Normandy.
Your point is true though.
I follow with great pleasure your videos, dear Richard 👍
Many thanks
No, because George Chapman was in the US in November 1892.
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Interesting and good work 👍
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milwood, wilson, tabram, nichols, chapman, stride, addowes, kelly, Pinchin Street torso, coles, brown,emily smith. I consider as victims of the psycho but the strange thing is that she was 18 years old and not was a desperate lady didn´t even live in whitechapel usually the victims of the ripper were from 25 to 50 years old
This man does seem a very dangerous character indeed. And to try and turn her to cut her throat is sinisterly like how jack started his attacks.
10:56 Omg! I couldn't help but laugh. I wasn't expecting such an accurate tone of agony from you. Well done! New subscriber, all notifications on. 👍🏻
Yay, thank you!
It’s so strange that the ripper cases were so close together in respects of time then just stopped. That’s what makes me think that this guy wasn’t Jack the Ripper and if Smith was telling the truth then it was a random attack.
Who knows though eh?
Sometimes they do just stop lol
She saw her attacker and then followed him? I imagine she was lying.
How's that? She has clearly been very independent and outgoing.
Or maybe she wanted to prove people wrong but said she was lying
That part doesn't make sense to me either. I would think she'd be terrified at seeing him and would run away, trying hard to find the nearest constable
A very observant lady
She said he was over 5' 9". Didn't people who said they saw Jack say he was small, maybe 5'5 or 5' 6"? Thanks for the vid, you're the best Ripper guy!
No one ever definitely saw The Ripper, they saw people who they thought could have been him, but could equally have not been. So we have no idea how tall he actually was.
Why would a young lady would go and have a drink with a complete stranger???
Note the fair likeness of her picture unlike the fallen women's pictures in the ripper affairs.
Thank you for a very interesting documentation, as always.
I found this passage particularly interesting: “The theory that the Ripper had been handed over by his friends to the police as a dangerous lunatic, and was now safely under their charge, had begun to be generally credited as a fact”. This, as far as I can understand, suggest that the Kosminski theory may have been in circulation only three years after the murders. That is very interesting since Kosminski didn’t appear as a suspect in a more “official” capacity until 1959. Or so I thought.
As to Emily Smith, I find her description of her assailant’s appearance just a little too detailed and with slightly too many odd and distinctive features attached to it. It sounds more like a description of a suspect in a Sherlock Holmes story that she surely could have read in The Strand that just started to publish Conan Doyle’s famous detective stories the year before. And why would a respectable girl follow a man she never met before around half of London for several hours? And if he knew so many people along the route, surely someone would have known him and would have been able to verify her story?
She may very well have been attacked, but I somehow doubt that her story was entirely true, and that other bits and pieces may deliberately have been left out. Furthermore, could she have known at the time that George Chapman was a Ripper suspect and simply elaborated on his description?
Had she been interviewed by the police today she would have been exposed to a thorough investigation in which she would have been asked the same questions in different variations over and over again, possibly at different occasions, to see if her story would change over time or contain other discrepancies. I wonder how the police worked in the 1890’s. Did they use a similar technique, or did they simply took her statement at face value? Obviously they didn’t believe her, but it would be interesting to read the notes from the interview to learn more about how the contemporary police force worked.
Yes, Magnus, I was very intrigued by that passage. I am looking further into it.
@@JackTheRipperTours I’m looking forward to hear/read what you’ll find out.
This was well-done. I’ve long thought the most plausible suspects as being JtR to be one of just three: 1. James Kelly; 2. George Chapman; or, 3. Scotland Yard’s own Kosminski/Kaminsky candidate, but that’s not to say this event was a Ripper event, either.
If this event did happen as described, however, then whomever was responsible was clearly a very sinister and conniving individual, but I believe Chapman has to be ruled out because he is known to have only arrived in England as late as 1887-8, so it’s doubtful his command of the English language could have been nearly so persuasive as the victim described it in the video. James Kelly, in my view, could be the better fit here - especially given he was clearly adept at living in the shadows even whilst being actively searched as an escapee from Broadmoor. What counts against him, however, is eye colour, so on this basis, both Kelly and Chapman must be excluded as the only known image of them both indicate dark eyes.
Which brings us back full-circle to Aaron Kosminski/Nathan Kaminsky. If only we had contemporaneous photographs of these two individuals… But since Kosminski had already been removed to Colney Hatch in 1891, the timelines do not match, so it’s unlikely he was the culprit, either.
…all of which suggests a copycat killer or a “victim” with a surprisingly vivid imagination; I err towards the former rather than the latter as being the more likely.
As I’ve said in my other comments on your videos, I don’t think we’ll ever know for certain, but these seem the the most likely candidates to me as possible dead-ringers for JtR - with the Met’s preferred candidate being the least likely in my opinion as Aaron Kosminsky does not seem to have had much of a reputation for violence towards women, save one outburst with a knife, and like Chapman, hardly spoke what might be called fluent English.
Overall, Kelly seems the best fit, but it’s circumstantial at best.
Come now, only the very narrow-minded could dismiss Ostrog out of hand 😂😂😂
There wasn’t just one ‘Jack’. There were incidents that the press created a monster out of. Nothing new.
Great story-telling. I don't think the young lady was lying, and being of a higher social status could she have been an interest to Jack who targeted lower class women, aka prostitutes? Also his remark that all the victims were old was incorrect as Mary Kelly was only 25. Sadly there were other violent offenders around this time but due to the media craze everyone was believed to be the Ripper. I think she didn't report straight away for a simple reason, as it is today-for fear of being mis-believed.
Well people need to stop waiting to report crimes. The longer you wait the less likely you'll see any justice
How interesting, the primary school I went to is on Sutton Street
This suspect looks like HH Holmes.
Very strange.
You had me up until the neat disabling knee to the groin, which works in films and women's self-defence videos, but is highly unlikely to work in real life. The longer the story went on, the more it sounded like attention seeking.
Intriguing case! Not sure I believe her, but fascinating nonetheless!
Was George Chapman any relation to Annie Chapman then?? I know it is quite a common surname here
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If Emily Smith was a Jack the ripper victims and it cannot be Aaron kosminski as he was hopelessly insane and checked into a mental home in 1891 by his family.
Her story seems to
be to detailed to precise.
She noticed Everything about him. LOL.
May anyone please tell me what jack the ripper might of been wearing at the night of the murderers at least something please
Jack wore a coat trimmed with astrakhan fur, a black tie with a horseshoe pin, dark spots, button-over boots and a large gold chain hanging across his waistcoat.
Doesn't sound like Jack at all. IMO he was long gone from London by then.
Or locked up in an asylum ?
Or just never murdered again; or was killed, himself.
@@LucasLucas-ne4xs Or simply stopped. There has been other notable examples. Serial killer Dennis Rader (BTK) for example. Ed Kemper turned himself in “to put a stop to it”.
Jack the Ripper’s postmortem atrocities increased over time, as serial killers often do, culminating in the horrific mutilation of Mary Kelly. Perhaps he realized that he couldn’t reach “the high” as the first killings had given him? Perhaps he was finished what he had set out to do? It’s impossible to know as we don’t know his motive. Perhaps he continued his murders somewhere else in the world, was sentenced to jail for unrelated crimes or died. Perhaps he was murdered. Wouldn’t that be a plot twist, say?
Yeah don’t think it was jack, Jack didn’t make so much effort to get a girl in a dark alleyway
Mb it was the IS like often in these days !
Quietly dressed? Dressed not like a working Lass?
I think it means she didn’t wear Spandex and neon green leg warmers.
No.
A knife battle field doctors used to cut off legs & arms
If Jack The Ripper had attacked her she wouldn't have lived.
Another excellent story from the Victorian days long gone !
I doubt Miss Smith story is entirely true (especially since it took her several weeks to report it) but there might be some truth to it. However it looks nothing like a classic Jack (attempted) murder.
The most fascinating piece of information was the quote at 13:57 . In didn't realize at the time (only a few years after Mary Kelly's gruesome end) it was generally known and accepted that Jack was known and handed over to the police and locked up in a lunatic asylum.
It corroborates with the man Anderson and Swanson refer to as "the suspect who was identified and sent to Colney Hatch" and who is also mentioned by Macnaghten, but I always thought this was not known to the public until many years later.
Pleased you enjoyed it, Clay.
I haven't finished the video but already I don't see Jack the ripper. Jack the ripper made sure none of his victims would ever tell the police anything. He choked them into unconsciousness or death. Men to make sure he nearly decapitated on by cutting their throat so deeply. Jack the ripper was not in the habit of leaving survivors because of his method of killing.
4:50 what is a race meeting?
A horse race.
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I think she was attacked but it was a copycat not the ripper.
If Emily's story is true It should be very easy to find a man with black hair and a Sandy mustache and two different colored eyes. But the ripper strangled his victims first so I don't think it was Jack the ripper
In addition Jack the ripper did not leave survivors. First the strangling then the cut to the throat almost be hitting them. Been to make damn sure he took vital organs away
How big was H.H .Holmes was on holiday training for his murder hotel it might be he.
Nah...
It rang through from the beginning that she was another attention seeker. Scotland Yard did well in dismissing her story.
Charles Lechmere or Royal family cover up
Michael maybrick was jack the ripper
Why would she do something so stupid?
Strikes me as a penny dreadful piece to sell some papers .young lady follows a older man about town for rumpy pumpy but gets more than she wants. Attention seeking well maybe.
That is not so uncommon my dad had jet black hair and almost a reddish mustache
Very smart girl bring up the knees to the gonads and it will take down the biggest villains.
The Ripper was HH Holmes. He stayed in Whitechapel.
Royal family cover up
Believe all women.
Thankyou for those words but as a woman I assure you that you really cannot and should not believe all women. I say that as a survivor myself.
You shouldn’t just believe all anybody. That has to be one of the most foolish and sexist ideas forced by mainstream idiocy in decades.
Believe those who have provided credence as to be believed.