Jack The Ripper And The Night Of The Double Murder - 30th September 1888.

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @Rollin_L
    @Rollin_L Месяц назад +3

    Only Richard Jones can impart the scenes in such a way that one almost feels as if one was there to see it. Magnificent as always!

  • @stationlittle3786
    @stationlittle3786 Месяц назад +16

    Another great video, thank you!
    The more I watch your videos or read about this topic (currently in the middle of John Malcolm's book after watching the recent documentary), the more I think the police at the times tried their best and were probably less awful than at first glance.

    • @usedscar
      @usedscar Месяц назад +1

      They knew who it was and couldn't take a lot of credit due to not being able to hang the bad guy! So anti-climactic in the end.

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 Месяц назад

      You're a naughty one, Saucy Jack
      You're a haughty one, Saucy Jack
      When the streetlamp's gaslight flickers and fails
      Then you see the last light glinting off the entrails

  • @Abberline_1888
    @Abberline_1888 Месяц назад +5

    Beautifully detailed video. Excellent.

  • @dermotkelly6946
    @dermotkelly6946 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Richard, will watch tonight 👍

  • @AustinD1993
    @AustinD1993 Месяц назад +6

    Very well done!
    Always love when you drop a new video.

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 Месяц назад +1

    RIP Liz & Cat. Thanks for sharing Rich!

  • @BenLujan-r5q
    @BenLujan-r5q Месяц назад +4

    Thank you so much for the video, Mr. Jones -- love all your JTR material!

  • @sumahama1981
    @sumahama1981 Месяц назад +4

    Best channel on RUclips 🎩

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop Месяц назад +2

    Richard, to me what's even more baffling than his identity and is truly amazing is how Jack committed these murders without so much as a peep from any of the victims, and how he could escape so quickly and without being detected! He killed a couple of these women right outside someone's bedroom window and nobody heard a thing! It's almost like he just vanished into thin air after he had finished his gruesome tasks!

  • @filmbuff2777
    @filmbuff2777 Месяц назад +2

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Lifeofalondoncabbie
    @Lifeofalondoncabbie Месяц назад +3

    Brilliant video 👍👍

  • @shaunlynch-u6x
    @shaunlynch-u6x Месяц назад +3

    I have always maintained the Eddowes murder holds or held the key to catching the killer, whatever possesed Warren to erase the graffiti without comparing the writing to the Dear Boss letter, absolutely bonkers, and why did the killer re-enter the jurisdiction of the first murder confident he would not be apprehended?

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant thank you Richard

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn Месяц назад +2

    Great stuff! :)

  • @cbamr
    @cbamr Месяц назад +1

    Another great video, Richard. I will contact you soon to tell you about my new Jack the ripper comic book

  • @22leggedsasquatch
    @22leggedsasquatch Месяц назад +7

    Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
    A video comparing Lechmere with Tumblety would be very interesting

    • @Pawsk
      @Pawsk Месяц назад

      Compare them?
      Like their appearance?

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Месяц назад

      ​@@Pawsk Compare the chances of it being them.

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Месяц назад +5

      It was lechmere

    • @MrBeckenhimself
      @MrBeckenhimself Месяц назад

      ​​@@kevinkenny6975It wasn't. We have not one but two dna studies that puts Kosminskis dna on the shawl from the Eddowes murder. We also know using the same dna that the killer had dark hair and brown eyes. Who had dark hair and brown eyes? Lechmere?
      No but Kosminski sure did. The case is closed. The Police in 1888 knew they had their man, and we now know they were right.

    • @otisdylan9532
      @otisdylan9532 Месяц назад

      It's unlikely that it was either of them.

  • @Mickcotton
    @Mickcotton Месяц назад +1

    You really need to raise the volume up a little bit when you make your videos Please 🙏 😊🇬🇧🥂

  • @matthewjames206
    @matthewjames206 Месяц назад +2

    It amazes me how JTR was able to elude capture after commiting these brutal murders. It makes me believe that he's responsible for more than the five murders attributed to him. JTR was an efficient killer. Though I do wonder what made him wait for over a month to murder again. A wonderful video as always. May Elizabeth Stride and Catherine Eddowes rest peacefully 💙

    • @ElizaBlue-o1i
      @ElizaBlue-o1i Месяц назад

      I believe there's a theory that he may have injured his hand during the murder of Catherine - it's not uncommon for people attacking with knives to sustain an injury themselves - which is why he cut a piece of her apron off, to wrap round his hand and soak up his own blood. If his hand was cut deeply enough to require wrapping, it may explain the month long gap till the next murder, as he waited for the wound to heal. The injured hand would obviously have been the one in which he wielded the knife.

  • @Rickkennett143
    @Rickkennett143 Месяц назад +3

    Did anyone think to question the occupants of the Wentworth building if they'd noticed any graffiti at the entrance before the night of the murder?

    • @James-os5fh
      @James-os5fh Месяц назад +3

      Good question apparently the police did not.

  • @t.macgyver9372
    @t.macgyver9372 Месяц назад +4

    According to Randy Williams; Louis Deimschutz, Isaac Kozebrodski and Samuel Friedman were working together to carry out these killings. I was skeptical at first but he backs the theory up with evidence. One of which was is a letter that was sent after the Kelly murder to the wife of the landlord. In that letter, the writer states: “Don’t alarm yourself. I am going to do another, but this time it will be a mother and daughter.” What's striking about it is that at the foot of the letter, the writer draws a diagram of three people near a victim lying on her back. One is drawn holding a knife over the victim, the other one near the feet of the victim holding something like an axe and the third one is standing against what appears to be a window. If it were simply a hoax letter (as many believe) then why would the sender refer to himself in the singular "I", yet draw three people in the letter? The police nor the press stated there could be an accomplice, much less a gang of three. Therefore, the letter must be genuine. The actual copy of this letter is in the book: Jack the Ripper: Letters from Hell by Stewart P Evans, Keith Skinner.

    • @davidmoser3535
      @davidmoser3535 Месяц назад +5

      bolderdash

    • @cha5
      @cha5 Месяц назад

      There were hundreds of purported 'Jack The Ripper' letters written and sent in by people all over London and beyond at that time even years after the JTR murders up into the 1910's and 1920's. I read the Jack the Ripper: Letters from Hell book but as I recall Evan's and Skinner's conclusion was that none of the letters collected in that book were genuine, with the possible exception of the From Hell letter. As to why that letter you mention had a drawing of three people in it? A large chunk of the letters reprinted in that book were.... I won't say creative but were unusual correspondence that were often written on a whim IMHO by some disturbed individuals who likely got a sick laugh out of what they could come up with.
      In short I don't consider any of those letters as ironclad evidence in The Ripper killings, but they are interesting, Not to mention genuinely disturbing even in 2024.

    • @andrewtomlinson5237
      @andrewtomlinson5237 Месяц назад

      And... were a mother and daughter murdered at any point in similar fashion?

  • @Liz-sn1mm
    @Liz-sn1mm Месяц назад +6

    Did Kate Eddowes say "nothing" when asked her name initially, or did she simply not answer? Just interesting how a misunderstanding could arise.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  Месяц назад +2

      That's a really good point. I have to confess I never thought of that.

    • @James-os5fh
      @James-os5fh Месяц назад +2

      Catherine Eddowes initial response when asked her name was "Nothing". Later on at Bishopsgate police station she gave her name as Mary Ann Kelly.

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 Месяц назад

      Eddows saying her name was Nothing should tell you more than a full auto biography - perhaps

  • @EvanDavies-p5b
    @EvanDavies-p5b Месяц назад +5

    If you believe that both of the murders that happened that night, were committed by the same hand, then this is essentially where the killer reveals himself. After he kills Elizabeth Stride he is interrupted, whether you think it was by Schwartz or Diemschütz, and he obviously knows that he has been interrupted. For all he knows the interrupter has gone looking for a policeman. At this stage all reason dictates that he retreats home, and hopes to complete his ghastly desire another day. Instead he goes looking for another victim, and at this point he is making it up as he goes along. No need to ask whether he is a planner, if you believe that he committed both murders, because you already have your answer. Having killed his second victim, he cuts away a piece of her apron, and casually tosses it aside two blocks away. This is clearly not a man who is careful to avoid leaving evidence.

    • @otisdylan9532
      @otisdylan9532 Месяц назад

      There is one other possibility: the killer was interrupted, but not by Schwartz or Diemschutz. There were a dozen or so people in the club next to the killing, and a fair amount of sound coming from them, so it could be that something about that spooked him, or the possibility that someone could exit the club at any moment. Nonetheless, I agree that he probably didn't do much planning.

    • @rob5944
      @rob5944 Месяц назад

      He was no doubt greatly frustrated at not bring able to satisfy himself, Peter Sutcliffe suffered in a similar manner, almost cutting one victims head off with a peice of glass when he couldn't fined a bank note traceable to him. I believe the killer was desperate to find a substitute wherever he could, possibly enroute to his home, possibly not. However, this was definitely the double event.

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 Месяц назад

      You're a naughty one, Saucy Jack
      You're a haughty one, Saucy Jack
      When the streetlamp's gaslight flickers and fails
      Then you see the last light glinting off the entrails

    • @seank.9764
      @seank.9764 Месяц назад

      If you take into account the inquest testimony given by Schwartz then you know that he could not have been the “interrupter”. He happened upon the scene as Stride was being manhandled near the gate of Dutfield’s yard and then had to quickly flee the area after being subjected to antisemitic taunts. The clopping sounds created by Louis Deimschutz’ pony were undoubtedly what startled the culprit into fleeing the yard, or more than likely hiding in the shadows within, shortly after cutting Stride’s throat. The circumstances do, however, raise a very interesting question. If the killer here was truly JTR, then did the infamous fiend work in tandem with an accomplice? Was the man with the pipe, who chased Israel Schwartz down Berner Street, a lookout? This could be a convincing argument as to why Jack was so successful in the other murders as well. I tend to believe that Stride was most likely a canonical victim yet there are many details that suggest otherwise. Why choose such a seemingly “busy” section of town? Perhaps part of his thrill-seeking mania was driven by his desire to be as brazen as possible, to push the envelope so to speak. As a prelude to the deftly accomplished events in Mitre Square less than an hour later, this seems a definite possibility. But the outstanding question, despite all this, is still : Why was a different type of knife used to kill Stride? Now I’m certainly not a forensic expert but those who examined the body testified at the inquest that a blunt-ended blade was used. A very sharp-edged butter knife, if you will. In the other four murders it was determined that a pointy knife was the instrument of choice. How they can determine that is anyones guess. This is why the Stride murder is truly an enigma to behold!

  • @perlefisker
    @perlefisker Месяц назад +1

    The wonderfully hilarious amateurism connected to the graffito is not whether it should be erased or not, but that none apparently had bothered to take copy of the actual text😂

  • @fretho8410
    @fretho8410 Месяц назад +5

    I have often wondered if the JTR murders were committed by more than one person. A copy-cat would explain some of the discrepancies.

    • @danse777macabre
      @danse777macabre Месяц назад

      the type of killer the ripper was is not common I find it hard to believe that there were multiple post mortem mutilators targeting the same class in the same area I think too much is made of the discrepancies sometimes
      I think his killings don't have that many anyway , and there have been plenty of serial killers who have differences between victims

    • @paulanthony5274
      @paulanthony5274 Месяц назад

      Nonsense

    • @rickjensen2717
      @rickjensen2717 21 день назад

      Doubt it

  • @PCHolmes
    @PCHolmes Месяц назад +7

    So Watkins had to get close and shine his bullseye lantern onto the dark shape to find out it was a human body, but somehow the ripper managed to extract the uterus and half a kidney in the same darkness? Really hard to believe the mainstream version.
    Thanks for the video, Richard. Next one on 9th of November? :)

    • @davidmoser3535
      @davidmoser3535 Месяц назад +5

      believe it , it happened

    • @rob5944
      @rob5944 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@davidmoser3535Richard's recent interview with a Ripperologist mentioned that once ones eyes become accustomed to the darkness it's surprising what can be seen, so the killer may well of had that benefit. P.C. Watkins had probably been using his lamp throughout his beat and had also passed under numerous street lights, so his vision was almost certainly compromised.

    • @normandavidtidiman9918
      @normandavidtidiman9918 Месяц назад +1

      Firstly, the Ripper was a lot closer to Eddows than the Policeman was when he shone his lamp,secondly,then the lights off in your house next time it's dark. At first you will only see pitch black, but after a min or so you'll be able to see quite a lot.

    • @kragary
      @kragary 2 дня назад

      The killer didn't need to see what he was doing to stuff his hand inside and grab whatever he happened to find.

  • @mindyourownfknbiz
    @mindyourownfknbiz Месяц назад +1

    Great work as always! Imo I think JTR planned to kill twice that night and so he did

  • @johnjones-eu1rv
    @johnjones-eu1rv Месяц назад +1

    It’s incredible that no one heard anything…. Maybrick must have had a method of moving and killing in PURE SILENCE…. Truly chilling

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Месяц назад

      You mean Lechmere. Lechmere probably just left his mother's house round the corner from the Stride spot.

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 Месяц назад

      ​@lyndoncmp5751 probably the dumbest comment ever made - probably because you do like to challenge yourself .

  • @avondalemama470
    @avondalemama470 Месяц назад +1

    I do believe that Elizabeth Stride was a Jack the Ripper victim. There’s no real reason to think she was not one of his victims.

    • @seank.9764
      @seank.9764 Месяц назад +1

      On the contrary, there are many reasons! First of all, the m.o. doesn’t match. In the four other canonical cases JTR made sure the venue was dark, quiet and unoccupied. The scene near Dutfield’s yard was anything but. The area was somewhat better lit due to the activity in the adjacent building (light coming from the Education Society windows) and there were many people milling about : Schwartz, the pipe smoking man, the woman standing in her doorway and the dozen or so people in the building itself. This also includes the man accosting Stride, who most certainly was NOT the Ripper, as he would never have exposed his actions to such close scrutiny. There is a reason why the fiend was never apprehended. He was much more careful than that! Another point of contention is that wound across Stride’s throat. It simply didn’t match those of the other victims. In her case only one slash is evident and an entirely different blade has been used. Her throat was not cut to the spine like the other poor women. If JTR truly was the culprit then he must have happened upon Stride in that short window of time between her being thrown to the ground by the unknown “Lipski” snarling ruffian and the discovery of her body by Diemschutz. It is of and by itself a genuinely perplexing mystery and makes the Stride murder the most beguiling of the bunch.

  • @AustinD1993
    @AustinD1993 Месяц назад +1

    New Video! 🥳

  • @seank.9764
    @seank.9764 Месяц назад

    This comment is directed toward JackTheRipperTours or whoever manages this forum. I responded to a comment someone made suggesting that it was a “proven fact” that Maybrick was Jack the Ripper. I felt that this was an absurd assertion and suggested that the Maybrick diary was indeed a hoax. I did not present my position in an insulting or crude manner and was merely trying to contribute to the discussion. Why was my post removed?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  Месяц назад

      Hi Sean. I don't recall seeing your comment, and if it wasn't crude or insulting I wouldn't have removed it. Please feel free to post the comment again. For what it's worth I agree with you about the diary, so I certainly wouldn't have removed a comment that contributed to the discussion.

    • @seank.9764
      @seank.9764 Месяц назад

      Thanks for responding Richard! (I’m assuming that’s your name). I appreciate the clarity. No need to repost as I think the point has been made. Your presentations are handsomely produced and very entertaining.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 Месяц назад

      @@seank.9764 For months now YT has been removing comments without rhyme or reason and noone knows why. Not the creator's doing.

  • @Mehpel
    @Mehpel Месяц назад +2

    Elizabeth stride was murdered in exactly the same way as the other members of the canonical 5 . Only difference she wasn't mutilated. But there was people coming in and out of the club all the time. Its highly unlikely hed have had the time . If the police of the time thought she was a victim. Thats enough for me .

  • @BrendonChase2012
    @BrendonChase2012 Месяц назад

    I wonder how often Mrs Diemschutz was found lying in the yard...

  • @SusieStanton-vf4he
    @SusieStanton-vf4he 25 дней назад

    Horse shyed away as I believe the ripper was there and hid in the darkness then made good away.

  • @heerkrupp64
    @heerkrupp64 5 дней назад

    How come they didn't put a blanket over the writing, had a photo taken for evidence, had a police guard at the site, until it was completed. asked some prominent locals in the area, if it had been noticed prior to this morning being found, Maybe they could have established when it might have been put there, that night, or earlier, at least try and find out something pertaining to it, before destroying it, to me that is criminal in itself destroying evidence.
    I know it's so long ago, the Police records are no longer around, like a needle in a haystack, if the police records are not available, it could be argued, it is pointless, to look into these things. But you never know, stranger things have happened to solve a case in the end.

  • @lesberkley3821
    @lesberkley3821 Месяц назад +13

    I really don't believe that "Long Liz" was a Ripper victim. I do, however, share a birthday with Catherine Eddowes, who wasn't wearing a shawl. 😃

    • @davidmoser3535
      @davidmoser3535 Месяц назад

      yes, and I am Queen Dick

    • @tonywilliams7152
      @tonywilliams7152 Месяц назад +10

      You seem to know a bit about these murders. Where exactly were you on the night in question?

    • @normandavidtidiman9918
      @normandavidtidiman9918 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@tonywilliams7152 😂😂😂

    • @P.willow
      @P.willow 8 дней назад

      Ahahaha😂​@@tonywilliams7152

  • @AustinD1993
    @AustinD1993 Месяц назад +1

    Doesn't the drawing of the man talking to Liz Stride & Catherine Eddowes look like the drawing of Frances Tumblety with the same hat?
    (I recognized it from the thumbnail in your video on Tumblety)

    • @iancavon7125
      @iancavon7125 Месяц назад

      Tumblety was about 5'11, which was way above average height at that time. No eyewitness -- that is, if the actual Ripper had been seen at all -- described a man much taller than average.

  • @beastlychap
    @beastlychap Месяц назад +1

    Mary Anne Kelly ?

  • @James-os5fh
    @James-os5fh Месяц назад +8

    The journalist Frederick Best wrote the "Dear Boss" Letter.

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Месяц назад +2

      Possible but we're not sure

    • @leslierock5005
      @leslierock5005 Месяц назад +2

      Fred best,was that ever proven to be true,not saying ur wrong but could u point me in the right direction as to where i could look that up,thank you sir.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  Месяц назад +7

      Hi Leslie. It was never proven This is my video looking at those suspected of writing it. ruclips.net/video/t0cezJsBvZ4/видео.html

    • @leslierock5005
      @leslierock5005 Месяц назад +2

      @@JackTheRipperTours thank you ill look forward to that.

    • @James-os5fh
      @James-os5fh Месяц назад +6

      1931 Frederick Best admitted that he wrote the "Dear Boss" Letter. And handwriting analysis of a sample of Frederick Best's hand writing was examined by Elaine Quigley a graphology expert and she concluded that that the sample of Frederick Best's hand writing matched perfectly the "Dear Boss" Letter.

  • @paulandary080965
    @paulandary080965 Месяц назад

    Could it have been Lechmere and an accomplice, who wanted the twenty pounds, Tumble was offering for uteri's...?...

  • @WadeRaney-vv5oi
    @WadeRaney-vv5oi Месяц назад +1

    Maybe there was more to the writing,a jew was the killer,but,would not be blamed for it?🤔

    • @Booklivre
      @Booklivre Месяц назад

      You are absolutely RIGHT

  • @pauldrummond225
    @pauldrummond225 Месяц назад +2

    I don't think Stride was a ripper victim and I have held that opinion for 45 years since I began to study this case. It's possible she was killed over a debt or the fact that she wasn't going to pay it but her murder is a topic in itself.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Месяц назад +2

      I find it too hard to believe there were two different throat slashing woman killers within 45 minutes and less than a mile of each other. I find it equally hard to believe JTR decided to merely "coincidentally" move just outside of his established hot-spot right as this other new throat slashing woman killer was slaying Liz Stride just outside this hot-spot too.

  • @1339LARS
    @1339LARS Месяц назад

    LJ!!!!!!!!

  • @sciencefirst7880
    @sciencefirst7880 Месяц назад +4

    I don't think Jack killed Elizabeth Stride.

    • @katrinamoran1209
      @katrinamoran1209 Месяц назад +3

      Me neither!

    • @davidmoser3535
      @davidmoser3535 Месяц назад +3

      @@katrinamoran1209 yes he did

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Месяц назад +1

      I find it too hard to believe there were two different throat slashing woman killers within 45 minutes and less than a mile of each other. I find it equally hard to believe JTR decided to merely "coincidentally" move just outside of his established hot-spot right as this other new throat slashing woman killer was slaying Liz Stride just outside this hot-spot too.

  • @MagnoliaBelle369
    @MagnoliaBelle369 Месяц назад +1

    Aaron Kosminski.

  • @petebiram1032
    @petebiram1032 Месяц назад +1

    Jack The Ripper didn't kill Elizabeth Stride.

  • @diogenesstudent5585
    @diogenesstudent5585 Месяц назад +1

    Jack was innocent.