It's funny how some areas of London have original structures from Roman times and others became completely unrecognisable within ten years. This type of content is exactly my jam, I love it!
In the 1967 documentary film 'The London Nobody Knows' actor James Mason is seen knocking on the front door of the house in Hanbury Street a JtR murder site and being invited inside by the occupant. The street looked very shabby and disreputable even in 1967.
I love stuff like this. I grew up in an old industrial city and I would spend many hours cruising about looking for old crime scenes and other sites of interest. I’d look for indications of what was left of long gone buildings and lose myself envisioning the past. It was often creepy but oddly satisfying. I really really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
I grew up in a heavy industrial area right on the harbor with old brick warehouses and cobblestone streets. As a boy I loved it and was quite sad when developers sanitized the life out of the neighborhood. I still like rough, undeveloped areas. They seem more atmospheric.
One winter's night a few years ago I sat for a while in Mitre Square as near to where Catherine Eddowes body was found as I could ascertain. It was eerily quiet.
Unless it's changed in the past couple of years it might be worth pointing out that Model dwellings, Goulston Street where the "The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing" graffiti was found still survives. The building has been heavily renovated in recent years, but the passage is still there. Love these videos.
I'm happy we at least have what we have in pictures and drawings, but when it comes to actual time travel nothing beats video... And there is a video of 29 Hanbury Street from 1968 in which you can actually feel the atmosphere of the place and imagine what it must've been like at the time of Annie Chapman's murder.
Somewhat related, I guess, but I drove through Dealey Plaza at midnight once while in Texas and it was truly eerie as hell, like the place was haunted. Associations can get pretty intense.
@jonp3890- Is it true that the entire area around Dealey Plaza where the fatal shots were fired is actually much smaller than what is seen on television and video ?
The area where Miller's Court existed, including where Kelly was murdered is now an open area in the centre of the new office building, one that you can easily get to from the street to the south, White's Row.
Fantastic! What a perfect posting! I went on a Jack the Ripper walking tour with Martin Fido 40-some years ago and development had already begun. These images are priceless. They preserve the past and the character and flavor of it now irretrievably lost. BRAVO!
I enjoy watching your videos. I would love to see one on possibilities of identifying him today. Like what kind of evidence could turn up that could actually lead to a specific suspect. And is there any chance evidence could turn up that could lead to someone.
Brilliant as ever Richard! 👏 I can never get enough of these then and now videos. Maybe in the future AI and these photos and video footage combined can help us recreate an authentic museum exhibit or VR version of these sites, replete with sounds and smells, as they were in the 1880s. Thanks for sharing this with us 👍
Exactly! Not unless you take a fancy to varying degrees of body odor, chronic halitosis brought on by disease and the constant consumption of gin, human waste and, of course, an ocean of horse dung!
I thoroughly enjoyed this sojourn through time. More than 130 years later and I'm still intrigued by what happened at these locations...even if their looks have changed. Always a pleasure 🍻
Fascinating. I can't remember the source, though I watched it recently, but in that account, it was stated that Mary Kelly's hovel was indeed occupied after her death; by a former roommate (Kate?) and a succession of unsavory people who charged money (if they could get it) to show visitors blood streaks on the wall and a bloodstain under the bed.
Thank you for a stroll back in time through this great presentation! Thank God for photography and the ones who took these valuable shots. I tell you, I wish i had been so intrigued and interested back when these sites were still around as I am now. I would have made any attempt to visit London just to relive the places where these happened as they were. Believe me, I would have been loaded with a couple of cameras and PLENTY of film!!!
I believe a large part of the population can look at old photos and see and feel what many can't. Since my childhood when I would read historical books historical photographs I would find that the photographs gave me more information than the book I was reading , photographs are snapshot in time that can't changed by reporters, authors or revisionists of every generation. Looking at photos and most important, understanding how people lived at the time, Just brings you back to Whitechapel of the day. For the first time I must disagree with you Richard. As a yank that has never been to London, Demolished buildings or not, just seeing where the murders happen would send a chill down my spine.
Brilliant work, as always. It does seem that the powers that be want to destroy anything that involves the murders, but we should always remember the unfortunate women who lost their lives to the fiend.
I think it is more that the area's needed to be cleaned up, they were slums and living there was hell. There are markers on the sites where the murders happened, and many many Ripper tours that operate in the area.
@@blrenx They were brutal gangsters. Ronald "Ronnie" Kray and Reginald "Reggie" Kray were English organised crime figures, and identical twin brothers from Haggerston, who were prominent from the late 1950s until their arrest in 1968. Their gang, known as the Firm, was based in Bethnal Green, where the Kray twins lived. They were involved in murder, armed robbery, arson, protection rackets, gambling and assaults.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I like to get night shots of the area with the street lights as the light source, which I think gives my work an atmospheric look.
Perhaps it might be possible in the future for someone to recreate the locations as an augmented reality experience, similar to the Pokémon phone app. Then at least we might have the chance to get a glimpse of what we lost.
Does anyone else pause the video when there’s an old photo of an actual JTR murder site, and try to picture the victim and Jack there? What temperature was it? What background noises were there? Etc..
A great video, and I like the nod to Leonard Matters. He wrote a lousy book, but we can be forever thankful to him for having captured Millers Court literally a couple of days before it was levelled.
As an enthusiast of the case, I've seen also the photos of the other sites connected to the Whitechapel Murders as George Yard, Old Castle Street, Swallow Gardens, Pinchin Street, etc.
I wonder where the rubble is today from the murder sites that were torn down? What happened to the many residents in the area? Did they stay until they passed away? Were they moved to better locations? There must be documentation somewhere.
the places the people the times have gone . its as if it never happened and i fear that in the future no one will ever know about JTR . london isn't part of the uk anymore even the cockney slang has disappeared and been replaced with . yeah man go man yeah hey bro wasup . thank you for the video
Jack the Ripper will always be discussed - The fact that these videos are so popular is proof of that. There are numerous amateur Ripperologists keeping the history alive and a new suspect is put forward every few years. Cockney slang is still widely spoken and understood. Yes, new slang is introduced, but this is true of various towns and cities, not just in the UK but all over, but London sland is still widely spoken and understood xx
It is interesting and a bit ironic that the only (wider) murder place still retaining its original character and majority of buildings is that of Martha Tabram, the victim not canonically recognized as being murdered by JtR. The original building where her body was found (George Building) is gone but on its place is something more modern but similarly unappealing and many other buildings in that sinister back alley (nowdays called Gunthorpe Street) are still the same.
Was down there the other night after having a curry with my brother. Late dark night one can almost imagine how it was back then. Bleak as anything, but I kind of like london that way. Atmospheric to say the least. Cheers.
Depending on who the killer (of killers) actually were, we may well have artists impressions or actual photos of the real "Jack" - Several of the suspects had their photos taken, be it before the crimes, at the time or even several years later. Sadly, we'll never know who the real killer was, despite several credible suspects xx
The Whitechapel area today is far better than it was back then. It's actually quite a desirable place to live now, with expensive properties and rents. It's much cleaner, safer and more vibrant than before. It used to be a shit hole. It's not now. Lots of nice restaurants, pubs, bars and shops.
I guess you are aware of this Richard, video on my channel. James Mason showing 29 Hanbury in 1968. I imagine the fence is a replacement but possibly the same height as the original, so maybe ~4ft 6inches to 5ft high - not much cover for the murderer? (Mason was 5ft 11inches)
I was reading in one jtr book about younger police officers being dressed up as women to try to coax the ripper and catch him/her. Always reminds me of blackadder when bladrick was dressed up as a women haha
I wouldn't even care to join a tour of the sites anymore. No amount of touring after dark, or a tour guide's creepy voice could ever recapture the sense of history lost. Shameful in a way.
I'm actually suprised that there isn't more of these photos. Often times they have bad quality to them. I remember looking at the album of my hometown Poznań from 1888 (there was a flood back then) and see how good quality photos they are. Nevertheless Im always waiting for new-old photos to come out. E.g. we've recently saw a new-old photo of Dorset Street.
That really makes me upset that the new buildings arnt made to look old to blend in with the vintage buildings still there its very sad ,in Savannah ga, theres a law that is in place anywhere building in the historical district the new buildings have to resemble the old ones to keep the vintage look i think thats awesome i an baffled London doesn't
The area has been undergoing regeneration since the murders took part, there was a huge slum clearance in the 50/60's which was long overdue, so many of the new buildings would have been from then.
its very sad to see that. so much " history. just. blow away like that . I mean for London in it self EVEN THO I understand The event maybe docent. please. The picture of London over the years I mean Jack was a very odd guy Who the hell he was .I find it sad that just this places are gone it could have. become a huge as it is tour thing. because. so many wants to see and know. all about it For me as a Scandinavian I like history specially Victiroan era of London its . the history around it and when you go to lodon you will see all this. all thats been. ..In our country we do try to hold. old building more dearly. I wouldn't say. like 100 but. mostly because its. history and something we all can learn of .. I do like London as it is but. It would be so good if they just keep it. or Build it back or " build a museum with all things in it a huge one to really really make it authentic I think it would. bring in a lot of money for the. city, Thanks you for cheering all this pictures.
What’s your position on William Barry as a suspect? The murder of his wife, his concern over being a suspect, and the weird graffiti found at his flat are all pretty compelling.
thankyou Richard ,ive got Matters book its baseic knolagè on the killings .ive been interested in jtrism since about 1952 we were visiting my grandparents i was 4 years old my dad andgrandmother were discussing some point onthe killings which was in the sunday paper.My grandmother came from Shorditch born 1872ish so wasgreàtly interested in the case so i picked this family tradition of course i have my own viewes on various aspects yourpods are always of intrest i have a new theiry which points the finger at a wellknown person let me know if you are interested ttfn&ty
Think your statements of the dates are a little mixed up regarding Nichols' and Chapman's murders, because it comes across as if you think they were both killed on the same date . . . maybe the fact your microphone clips off first words or syllables is why it's confusing, idk
Are there any games that take you through a fairly accurate rendition of London in the 1880's??? There has got to be. Why can I not find any talk of this?
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It's funny how some areas of London have original structures from Roman times and others became completely unrecognisable within ten years.
This type of content is exactly my jam, I love it!
I agree , I can't get enough of this type of content.
@BgO635
Nobody would want to live in those shit hole dumps today. They were knocked down for a reason. They were bloody awful places.
The Romans built to last. The Victorians built to save money.
In the 1967 documentary film 'The London Nobody Knows' actor James Mason is seen knocking on the front door of the house in Hanbury Street a JtR murder site and being invited inside by the occupant. The street looked very shabby and disreputable even in 1967.
They also showed the back yard. There was a dog running around.
Yes l saw this film too with with James Mason, and was gonna put in the comments but you beat me to it!!.....
@@maryknight4823 - I was also going to say I'd seen the film but Stephanie beat me to it - but you beat me to it. AARRGGHH!
I love stuff like this. I grew up in an old industrial city and I would spend many hours cruising about looking for old crime scenes and other sites of interest. I’d look for indications of what was left of long gone buildings and lose myself envisioning the past. It was often creepy but oddly satisfying. I really really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
I grew up in a heavy industrial area right on the harbor with old brick warehouses and cobblestone streets. As a boy I loved it and was quite sad when developers sanitized the life out of the neighborhood. I still like rough, undeveloped areas. They seem more atmospheric.
One winter's night a few years ago I sat for a while in Mitre Square as near to where Catherine Eddowes body was found as I could ascertain. It was eerily quiet.
Unless it's changed in the past couple of years it might be worth pointing out that Model dwellings, Goulston Street where the "The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing" graffiti was found still survives. The building has been heavily renovated in recent years, but the passage is still there.
Love these videos.
I'm happy we at least have what we have in pictures and drawings, but when it comes to actual time travel nothing beats video... And there is a video of 29 Hanbury Street from 1968 in which you can actually feel the atmosphere of the place and imagine what it must've been like at the time of Annie Chapman's murder.
Link to video?
"the london nobody knows" with james mason. i have the dvd. i am sure its on youtube somewhere.
Somewhat related, I guess, but I drove through Dealey Plaza at midnight once while in Texas and it was truly eerie as hell, like the place was haunted. Associations can get pretty intense.
@@paulsmith1365It often gets shown on Talking Pictures tv channel which is on Freeview 82.
@jonp3890- Is it true that the entire area around Dealey Plaza where the fatal shots were fired is actually much smaller than what is seen on television and video ?
The area where Miller's Court existed, including where Kelly was murdered is now an open area in the centre of the new office building, one that you can easily get to from the street to the south, White's Row.
They should have kept the millers court sign... RIP to all the victims
Fantastic! What a perfect posting! I went on a Jack the Ripper walking tour with Martin Fido 40-some years ago and development had already begun. These images are priceless. They preserve the past and the character and flavor of it now irretrievably lost. BRAVO!
I enjoy watching your videos. I would love to see one on possibilities of identifying him today. Like what kind of evidence could turn up that could actually lead to a specific suspect. And is there any chance evidence could turn up that could lead to someone.
Crazy to think those ‘slum dwellings’ would be worth £1M or more today.
Brilliant as ever Richard! 👏 I can never get enough of these then and now videos. Maybe in the future AI and these photos and video footage combined can help us recreate an authentic museum exhibit or VR version of these sites, replete with sounds and smells, as they were in the 1880s. Thanks for sharing this with us 👍
Not sure I'd fancy the smells...
Exactly what I was going to say! Not too desirable unless you’re into various degrees of body odor, human waste and, of course, an ocean of horseshit!
Exactly! Not unless you take a fancy to varying degrees of body odor, chronic halitosis brought on by disease and the constant consumption of gin, human waste and, of course, an ocean of horse dung!
Thank you for the latest upload.
The story of Jack the Rippers exploits just keeps giving I am sure for many years to come .
Really nice presentation. Thank you 👍
I thoroughly enjoyed this sojourn through time. More than 130 years later and I'm still intrigued by what happened at these locations...even if their looks have changed. Always a pleasure 🍻
Fascinating. I can't remember the source, though I watched it recently, but in that account, it was stated that Mary Kelly's hovel was indeed occupied after her death; by a former roommate (Kate?) and a succession of unsavory people who charged money (if they could get it) to show visitors blood streaks on the wall and a bloodstain under the bed.
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Thank you for a stroll back in time through this great presentation! Thank God for photography and the ones who took these valuable shots. I tell you, I wish i had been so intrigued and interested back when these sites were still around as I am now. I would have made any attempt to visit London just to relive the places where these happened as they were. Believe me, I would have been loaded with a couple of cameras and PLENTY of film!!!
Well done, as always, Richard. Always look forward to a new video from you. Cheers! 🙂
Thanks for this, Richard. I will use this video as a photo reference when I write my comic. Hope to speak soon.
This is fascinating! Great video!
I believe a large part of the population can look at old photos and see and feel what many can't. Since my childhood when I would read historical books historical photographs I would find that the photographs gave me more information than the book I was reading , photographs are snapshot in time that can't changed by reporters, authors or revisionists of every generation. Looking at photos and most important, understanding how people lived at the time, Just brings you back to Whitechapel of the day. For the first time I must disagree with you Richard. As a yank that has never been to London, Demolished buildings or not, just seeing where the murders happen would send a chill down my spine.
Very Good video Richard, such a shame how time & development have eaten the locations up.
Brilliant work, as always. It does seem that the powers that be want to destroy anything that involves the murders, but we should always remember the unfortunate women who lost their lives to the fiend.
I think it is more that the area's needed to be cleaned up, they were slums and living there was hell. There are markers on the sites where the murders happened, and many many Ripper tours that operate in the area.
Fantastic job with this video …great research
Brilliant as always. Thank you.
Brilliant video Richard 😊
The Kray Twins notourisley put Whitechapel, and the East End back on the map in the 60's.
Who are the Kray Twins ?
I wonder if that means the 'Chapel is bound for another season of infamy in the 2060s as well 😂
@@blrenx They were brutal gangsters. Ronald "Ronnie" Kray and Reginald "Reggie" Kray were English organised crime figures, and identical twin brothers from Haggerston, who were prominent from the late 1950s until their arrest in 1968. Their gang, known as the Firm, was based in Bethnal Green, where the Kray twins lived. They were involved in murder, armed robbery, arson, protection rackets, gambling and assaults.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I like to get night shots of the area with the street lights as the light source, which I think gives my work an atmospheric look.
Perhaps it might be possible in the future for someone to recreate the locations as an augmented reality experience, similar to the Pokémon phone app. Then at least we might have the chance to get a glimpse of what we lost.
What you lost is an area of slums and dirt and people living in terrible conditions.
@@janetpendlebury6808 Ok.
What I think is interesting is that there were still horse drawn carriages in 1939.
Being London, I'm kinda surprised none of the sites have been covered by some Wotsits-shaped office tower.
Super Richard will watch tonight 👍
Does anyone else pause the video when there’s an old photo of an actual JTR murder site, and try to picture the victim and Jack there? What temperature was it? What background noises were there? Etc..
I really enjoyed watching this video, thank you.
A great video, and I like the nod to Leonard Matters. He wrote a lousy book, but we can be forever thankful to him for having captured Millers Court literally a couple of days before it was levelled.
Quality production as always.
Excellent as usual
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Fascinating!
Excellent video!
Good job for those that have captured these sites for posterity and History.
Another cool look at what was
Absolutely Amazing Thank You So Much 🙏🇬🇧🏴
@Stargaze79
That video ‘London Nobody Knows’ is available on various sites, hosted by James Mason.
As an enthusiast of the case, I've seen also the photos of the other sites connected to the Whitechapel Murders as George Yard, Old Castle Street, Swallow Gardens, Pinchin Street, etc.
Thank you for your work. This is amazing. The Chapman murder scene seems very interesting as it seems quite labyrinth in a way
Sorry I meant Eddows
I'd give anything to see that photograph by William Stuart (Stewart).
Fascinating stuff! Many thanks :)
Ive never seen that video of the houses on Bucks row being demolished before !
Very good. Thank you, Mr. J.
I wonder where the rubble is today from the murder sites that were torn down? What happened to the many residents in the area? Did they stay until they passed away? Were they moved to better locations? There must be documentation somewhere.
Brilliant Richard 👍🏻
the places the people the times have gone . its as if it never happened and i fear that in the future no one will ever know about JTR . london isn't part of the uk anymore even the cockney slang has disappeared and been replaced with . yeah man go man yeah hey bro wasup . thank you for the video
Jack the Ripper will always be discussed - The fact that these videos are so popular is proof of that. There are numerous amateur Ripperologists keeping the history alive and a new suspect is put forward every few years. Cockney slang is still widely spoken and understood. Yes, new slang is introduced, but this is true of various towns and cities, not just in the UK but all over, but London sland is still widely spoken and understood xx
There are markers at the sites of the murders, and at many of their burial sites, plus there are numerous Ripper Tours that operate around the area.
"london isn't part of the uk anymore"
Of course it is.
Interesting,saw all the sites in mid 1980’s
It is interesting and a bit ironic that the only (wider) murder place still retaining its original character and majority of buildings is that of Martha Tabram, the victim not canonically recognized as being murdered by JtR. The original building where her body was found (George Building) is gone but on its place is something more modern but similarly unappealing and many other buildings in that sinister back alley (nowdays called Gunthorpe Street) are still the same.
Was down there the other night after having a curry with my brother. Late dark night one can almost imagine how it was back then. Bleak as anything, but I kind of like london that way. Atmospheric to say the least. Cheers.
If only we had a pic of the actual killer or killers
Depending on who the killer (of killers) actually were, we may well have artists impressions or actual photos of the real "Jack" - Several of the suspects had their photos taken, be it before the crimes, at the time or even several years later. Sadly, we'll never know who the real killer was, despite several credible suspects xx
@@JCRendle true
Kosminski is the ONLY suspect with credible evidence against
London has been totally ruined! My Family (back to the 1400's) and I All come from The East End 😢....Cannot even walk down any of the Streets anymore
It was not safe to walk the streets in that era either, or the 60's when gangs ran riot in the area.
The Whitechapel area today is far better than it was back then. It's actually quite a desirable place to live now, with expensive properties and rents. It's much cleaner, safer and more vibrant than before. It used to be a shit hole. It's not now. Lots of nice restaurants, pubs, bars and shops.
Why can't you walk down the streets of the East End?
I don’t think she’s referring to safety. I think she referring to the fact it’s all been redeveloped.
Well done as all your videos are
Some very nice work here.
Does anyone know when those buildings were constructed? Would Millers Court be say 1788 and the surrounding streets the same ? Hope someone knows.
I guess you are aware of this Richard, video on my channel.
James Mason showing 29 Hanbury in 1968.
I imagine the fence is a replacement but possibly the same height as the original, so maybe ~4ft 6inches to 5ft high - not much cover for the murderer? (Mason was 5ft 11inches)
Would of been nearly impossible at the time for police all they could do is hope they caught him in the act
I was reading in one jtr book about younger police officers being dressed up as women to try to coax the ripper and catch him/her. Always reminds me of blackadder when bladrick was dressed up as a women haha
I wouldn't even care to join a tour of the sites anymore. No amount of touring after dark, or a tour guide's creepy voice could ever recapture the sense of history lost. Shameful in a way.
...but Kelly's room was occupied after the crime.
there was another murder to the occupant who lived above the room later on in 1909, her throat slashed.
I'm actually suprised that there isn't more of these photos. Often times they have bad quality to them. I remember looking at the album of my hometown Poznań from 1888 (there was a flood back then) and see how good quality photos they are. Nevertheless Im always waiting for new-old photos to come out. E.g. we've recently saw a new-old photo of Dorset Street.
That really makes me upset that the new buildings arnt made to look old to blend in with the vintage buildings still there its very sad ,in Savannah ga, theres a law that is in place anywhere building in the historical district the new buildings have to resemble the old ones to keep the vintage look i think thats awesome i an baffled London doesn't
There is a video with James Mason where he takes you to the site of Annie Chapmans murder where he walks into the actual backyard.....
👍as usual 👋
insalubrious!
Its called progress huh! Any clue on when these streets & the buildings in place were constructed?
The area has been undergoing regeneration since the murders took part, there was a huge slum clearance in the 50/60's which was long overdue, so many of the new buildings would have been from then.
It's odd to think that Jack the Ripper could possibly still be alive in the 1920s or even the 30s.
its very sad to see that. so much " history. just. blow away like that . I mean for London in it self EVEN THO I understand The event maybe docent. please. The picture of London over the years I mean Jack was a very odd guy Who the hell he was .I find it sad that just this places are gone it could have. become a huge as it is tour thing. because. so many wants to see and know. all about it For me as a Scandinavian I like history specially Victiroan era of London its . the history around it and when you go to lodon you will see all this. all thats been. ..In our country we do try to hold. old building more dearly. I wouldn't say. like 100 but. mostly because its. history and something we all can learn of .. I do like London as it is but. It would be so good if they just keep it. or Build it back or " build a museum with all things in it a huge one to really really make it authentic I think it would. bring in a lot of money for the. city, Thanks you for cheering all this pictures.
What’s your position on William
Barry as a suspect? The murder of his wife, his concern over being a suspect, and the weird graffiti found at his flat are all pretty compelling.
Why change the names of the streets?
thankyou Richard ,ive got Matters book its baseic knolagè on the killings
.ive been interested in jtrism since about 1952 we were visiting my grandparents i was 4 years old my dad andgrandmother were discussing some point onthe killings which was in the sunday paper.My grandmother came from Shorditch born 1872ish so wasgreàtly interested in the case so i picked this family tradition of course i have my own viewes on various aspects yourpods are always of intrest i have a new theiry which points the finger at a wellknown person let me know if you are interested ttfn&ty
Have you got any evidence that the houses where dirty?
Think your statements of the dates are a little mixed up regarding Nichols' and Chapman's murders, because it comes across as if you think they were both killed on the same date . . . maybe the fact your microphone clips off first words or syllables is why it's confusing, idk
Thanks for your uploads👍
Engrossing stuff.
double event this time
Kelly was murdered by her boyfriend, as was liz stride !!
Are there any games that take you through a fairly accurate rendition of London in the 1880's??? There has got to be. Why can I not find any talk of this?
Assassin's creed syndicate is a good one.