I love their long form content. I wish their yearly tv show would follow the same tact. Making it short and to-the-point leaves me disappointed. I've always loved how they did their podcast.
This was an EXCELLENT episode. The information and insights from the last 1/3 explained so many of the changes I've seen as a waterfowler over the past 10-20 years. Fascinating.
Meateater podcast is one that i could easily listen to 8 hour episodes of. Just finished the shack of love before this one, could make an awesome meat eater dating show up there 😂
You know Rogan's podcast is the best because of the lack of constraints and time limitations, well the same applies here. I would have been happy to listen to this conversation go on for far longer. Not sure why there's such a push for temporal linnearity when the pod is flowing so well. I would love to have meateater podcast in a longer form. Love the content as always, thanks to the production crew!
Everytime I listen to an episode… I always think..”Well they will have a hard time topping that one”….. and then you guys do! Incredible information that is presented clearly and kept my engagement the entire episode. I love all the work you guys put into these shows. Thank you!
It took me a couple bites to listen to the whole episode. I totally agree with other folks that you need to get this guy back on the show. He needs like another 2 hours. I found his information extremely interesting.
Great shit Steve Glued to the airwaves Been on the forefront of waterfowl hunting for many years on top prostaffs back when such a thing existed Hunted all 4 flyways Love the in-depth info, also have a pile of history and hunting with them chaps from Flying V Practically school them in there transplant state of Montana every December east of you guys in honker country Glad to see the great partnership you have always associated yourself with I’m a lifetimer with the Meateater Carry on
Steve Rinella: You said that about having the deer horns in your pocket on the way home. Reminded me about the time I won the smallest fish in a bow fishing tournament off the Mississippi River, Chotard lake, Mississippi. Showed up at the weight in with half of a gar in my shirt pocket and won smallest fish. Cut in half with a multi point head. Total length may have been 2 inches. Sorry about the bs, just brought up an old memory. Thanks for all you do!
How great is this episode so much information I’m super excited about this movement forward in conversation great work Phil , Steve get Phill back on and ask him about his trip to Australia recently great work meat eater team 👌
Like the longer podcasts, would be bloody great if there was time stamps, would be hard i get because of all the topics changing but would be GREAT! Keep going from Australia
Let's clear this up for the Mighty Ducks guys (Flying V). HIP questions only stratify the sample of hunters and the frequency they hunt. It is assumed someone shooting over 31 ducks is a "very active hunter". If you're going to expand a harvest estimate from the harvest survey (envelopes for parts survey, paper diary) you want a sample that is representative of all hunters (some only hunt opener, some hunt 3-5 times, and some hunt 10+ times, etc.), and not just the guys that shoot a lot every year. So, it's the diary and parts (envelopes) that give you your raw estimates, and those are expanded by a "hunter force", with weighted groups of hunters based on their hunting frequency.
41:28 They aren't looking for accurate harvest data on the HIP survey. They're looking for hunter classification. Do you hunt and kill a little or a lot?
I always loving hear what Dr Phil has to say. Wanted to point out that harvest numbers are not reduced from the HIP survey. The HIP survey is used to create the sample, or pool of hunters, for the actual harvest survey. The HIP asks the question about the number of birds harvest in the categories to break the sample into different groups of hunters, or buckets if you will, so that the sample will accurately represent the hunting population. It is know how many hunters fall into these buckets so by choosing different numbers of hunters from each bucket they don’t skew them results by accidentally getting to many from one bucket. To many in the higher buckets and your survey over estimates the harvest, to many in the lower bucket and it under estimates the harvest.
Im a MN duck hunter and hunt the western prairie area. A few factors causing the decline in my area are primarily farming related. The rate of tiling and draining on potholes is staggering. Just look at a satellite photo of the big stone lake area and contrast MN and south Dakota. They used to look the same. Ive seen some of my best sloughs get destroyed with increased water and nutrient load. The water levels increase, someone thrown in minnows and the scud population crashed. 20 years ago my waders and decoys would be covered in shrimp. Now nothing in the same sloughs.
Just duck hunted in gulf between corpus christi and Brownsville. Shot pintail, widgeon, redheads,ring necks, model, gradwall, green winged teal but no mallards
As a native West Texan, the area he drew on his map is South Texas and includes the Valley. Maybe South Central, including some of the hill country, if we're being generous. West Texas is Big Bend, Fort Davis, the oil fields of Midland and Odessa, and East to Abilene. Draw a big old circle around that, but exclude everything super far west, like El Paso and far North which is the Panhandle. If you are looking at a satellite image and it looks green, you are looking East of West Texas.
As a Texan, that’s not west Texas... West Texas is called south texas, the panhandle is called West Texas, North Texas is called the metroplex, South Texas is called the coast, and I guess East Texas is pretty accurately named. Hope this helps 😂
I have watched mergansers sitting behind spawning spring salmon on the wind river eating spawn! Physically saw it from above the bird looked like it was flying underwater behind these salmon!!
Hey Mike, I’m in the Cariboo, too bad we can’t participate in the duck dna project, the grizzly hunt really is a “situation” . Would be nice if Steve would take up a conversation about it. Not sure if it would help our dilemma , but would be good to hear their take on it
Why do you have to be so interested in their personal beliefs if they obviously don't want to share them or the conflict to be public? This is part of the problem today. Everyone has to know every little thing.
@@Joe-xm3fm nah man that's what I'm saying. It's horrible to think that just because someone has made a name, brand, and podcast inherently means they can't have any privacy within their lives.
This past weekend the ducks were moving in southwest Minnesota! A far cry from what we used to see, but we’ve learned not to shoot the roost off of our ponds in the morning so they return every evening and bring us more birds. Couple few ducks every time you go hunting or every one limits once and they don’t come back to roost. It’s the dogs that keep me ducking these days + my son + my grandson! My county has lost most of the wetlands due to farming drainage and practices. Over 95%. That will wreck your duck hunting and hunters! Lucky enough to have access to private property. And have 2 dozen wood duck houses up and maintain.
why is everyone doing a podcast so worried about time... we are literally here to listen to you talk i could be 4-5 hours. honestly would prefer that but its super annoying listening to people complain like that on the podcast itself.
Max is 100 percent right. The twin cities are holding birds year around with all the factories pumping hot water back into the rivers and lakes. So they have a place to be year around.
Around me it's water treatment ponds, every town's water treatment plant has retention ponds that hold an absurd number of birds and all off limits to hunters.
I have been asked to do the wing surveys numerus times. That is my guess where they are getting the numbers based on species. The HIP in Nebraska has only said ducks in the verbiage.
So the question is really, are eastern Mallards bound to extinction? They have survived for how many years now? This is extremely interesting. Definitely sounds a lot like Pheasants here in the Atlantic states. They boomed and then died out.
I’ve seen a pair juvenile Mallards feeding on shad just after the spawn in Castaic Lake CA. So much so we ended up moving spots after the pair made a few too many attempts to steal live bait off the hook.
Saying New Zealand doesn't have preditors except cats isn't quite right. We have Ferrets, stoats, weasels, hedgehogs, rats, hawks and even blackback gulls all predate on ducks here
@@Ca_Tule_Ninja Why? Because the USFWS sets the regulations and handles much of the data collection and analyses. In conjunction with state agencies this is how seasons and limits are set. Because you for an unexplained reason think they are horrible at research doesn’t make it anything but your opinion. Much of the discussion on this podcast could have benefitted from explanations by those charged with waterfowl management.
In the uk we call gutting a deer “gralloching” and what comes out is “the gralloch”. The Scottish government doesn’t give a cull figure but it does have the right to monitor deer damage and force extra culls. The deer (or any game animal/bird) is the property of the landowner to do with as he pleases. With the volumes of deer we have to shoot each year we couldn’t possibly eat them ourselves so we have to sell them into game dealers so they make the food chain.
Crazy interesting. I am a creationist,so the millions of years stuff is just stuff. Interesting that genetics, brings common ancestry back to the Biblical Ark event. Great Content
Would love to participate in the duck dna program. The majority of the birds I get are mallards. Hopefully the program extends to Canada soon as well. I live a couple hours north/east of Toronto and would love to contribute
What he was going to say about white bread is not to feed it to ducks bc it causes angel wing syndrome twisting their wings outward causing them the inability to fly
New to waterfowling last year in the Nodak area wow I just got a PHD in farm ducks. Releasing domesticated animals into the wild 100s of years ago reaping the Ls in 2023. Fast returns equal long term problems in the future Facts
If there is more don’t stop the podcast, nobody here is making you, you are making g yourself stop with a time limit, I can handle a 2-5 hour podcast even in parts.
im from MN, at first, it was nothing but a couple blue wing teal then it was a crap load of greenwing, then it proceeded to be a bunch of mallards. it was a strange year....usually i get nothing but wood ducks.
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I'm not a duck hunter at all but you're going to have to invite Dr Phil back on for at least another 2 hours cuz he wasn't done! Great conversation!
Need more long podcasts like this. No reason to make them short. JRE is proof long format is popular.
7:37 "Let's not make this show 2 hours and a half" Haha! A good attempt Corinne. Ah well, more to listen to!
xD
I love their long form content. I wish their yearly tv show would follow the same tact. Making it short and to-the-point leaves me disappointed. I've always loved how they did their podcast.
Over two hours? Now we're getting some content!
I know right Corinne was trying to prevent it im all for it I’d watch a 4 hour meat eater podcast
agreed its fine to produce it but so silly when they cut podcasts off@@griffoutdoortv5882
This was an EXCELLENT episode. The information and insights from the last 1/3 explained so many of the changes I've seen as a waterfowler over the past 10-20 years. Fascinating.
Meateater podcast is one that i could easily listen to 8 hour episodes of.
Just finished the shack of love before this one, could make an awesome meat eater dating show up there 😂
First cold weather and rain of the season in Mississippi AND a duck podcast. ‘Tis the season!
"Let's not make this six hours.
Let's not make this 2 and a half hours"
Juuuuust give us the 6 hour version we'll all listen 😅
You know Rogan's podcast is the best because of the lack of constraints and time limitations, well the same applies here. I would have been happy to listen to this conversation go on for far longer. Not sure why there's such a push for temporal linnearity when the pod is flowing so well. I would love to have meateater podcast in a longer form. Love the content as always, thanks to the production crew!
Agreed. They should do it with their TV show too
One of the BEST podcasts you have ever done!! That one could have kept going. Have Dr Phil on again….excellent content!
I could listen to this dude Dr. Phil talk all day
Interesting guy.
Everytime I listen to an episode… I always think..”Well they will have a hard time topping that one”….. and then you guys do! Incredible information that is presented clearly and kept my engagement the entire episode. I love all the work you guys put into these shows. Thank you!
Didn't Steve recommend a duck feather plucker? If so anyone recall the make and model?
It took me a couple bites to listen to the whole episode. I totally agree with other folks that you need to get this guy back on the show. He needs like another 2 hours. I found his information extremely interesting.
He should be on annually to highlight the findings of each year of this study.
Great shit Steve
Glued to the airwaves
Been on the forefront of waterfowl hunting for many years on top prostaffs back when such a thing existed
Hunted all 4 flyways
Love the in-depth info, also have a pile of history and hunting with them chaps from Flying V
Practically school them in there transplant state of Montana every December east of you guys in honker country
Glad to see the great partnership you have always associated yourself with
I’m a lifetimer with the Meateater
Carry on
Steve Rinella: You said that about having the deer horns in your pocket on the way home. Reminded me about the time I won the smallest fish in a bow fishing tournament off the Mississippi River, Chotard lake, Mississippi. Showed up at the weight in with half of a gar in my shirt pocket and won smallest fish. Cut in half with a multi point head. Total length may have been 2 inches. Sorry about the bs, just brought up an old memory. Thanks for all you do!
Love the longer in depth condos with the clusters of "tidbits and factoids"
Awesome podcast, guys! I really enjoyed this one.
Definitely enjoyed this take at looking at the prehistory to present background on a critter. Especially on one so well known. Dr. Phil is the man !
the lead shot is all down with the gold hahaha. I get so much lead shot in my gold pan haha
You made my day when you talked about Pedals! He lived in my town! I saw him a few times.. ❤
How great is this episode so much information I’m super excited about this movement forward in conversation great work Phil , Steve get Phill back on and ask him about his trip to Australia recently great work meat eater team 👌
7:35 “let’s not make this a 2.5 hour podcast”
Like the longer podcasts, would be bloody great if there was time stamps, would be hard i get because of all the topics changing but would be GREAT! Keep going from Australia
Let's clear this up for the Mighty Ducks guys (Flying V). HIP questions only stratify the sample of hunters and the frequency they hunt. It is assumed someone shooting over 31 ducks is a "very active hunter". If you're going to expand a harvest estimate from the harvest survey (envelopes for parts survey, paper diary) you want a sample that is representative of all hunters (some only hunt opener, some hunt 3-5 times, and some hunt 10+ times, etc.), and not just the guys that shoot a lot every year. So, it's the diary and parts (envelopes) that give you your raw estimates, and those are expanded by a "hunter force", with weighted groups of hunters based on their hunting frequency.
Best podcast ever!
(Coming from a fisheries biologist and avid waterfowler)
I live on Oahu, HI,and ❤ the hawaiian Duck experiment. Hunt NODAK
41:28 They aren't looking for accurate harvest data on the HIP survey. They're looking for hunter classification. Do you hunt and kill a little or a lot?
Love the content. Great episode. Phil was an awesome guest.
I always loving hear what Dr Phil has to say. Wanted to point out that harvest numbers are not reduced from the HIP survey. The HIP survey is used to create the sample, or pool of hunters, for the actual harvest survey. The HIP asks the question about the number of birds harvest in the categories to break the sample into different groups of hunters, or buckets if you will, so that the sample will accurately represent the hunting population. It is know how many hunters fall into these buckets so by choosing different numbers of hunters from each bucket they don’t skew them results by accidentally getting to many from one bucket. To many in the higher buckets and your survey over estimates the harvest, to many in the lower bucket and it under estimates the harvest.
Already listened to this but I’m rewatching since I miss stuff at work and I just caught when Danielle says let’s not make this 2 and 1/2 hours long 😂
Fantastic episode!
Personally love the longer podcasts!
The flyway has shifted to south dakota over the years. With all of the field tiling going on, our small water ponds are drying up.
As a duck hunter, very interesting episode. Thanks!
This was quite enthralling
Love the passion from these fellars, hunter science!
Well done. Good podcast.
Excellent episode
Im a MN duck hunter and hunt the western prairie area. A few factors causing the decline in my area are primarily farming related. The rate of tiling and draining on potholes is staggering. Just look at a satellite photo of the big stone lake area and contrast MN and south Dakota. They used to look the same. Ive seen some of my best sloughs get destroyed with increased water and nutrient load. The water levels increase, someone thrown in minnows and the scud population crashed. 20 years ago my waders and decoys would be covered in shrimp. Now nothing in the same sloughs.
To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also dream; not only plan, but also believe.
Loved the show!
I think Steve should come hunt blacktails in California on public land so he can see what it’s like. Would be a great episode!
As the world's worst duck hunter (won the title after miserable shooting last weekend) this podcast was fascinating!!!
Does anyone have the timestamp for when they talk about the topic in the title?
There isn't an exact point but 2:00:00 is roughly when they get into it, but there is a little lead-in before that provides more background.
I could of listen for another 2 hrs!!!
Ayy, Wright State University!
"Right State, Wrong School."
Just duck hunted in gulf between corpus christi and Brownsville. Shot pintail, widgeon, redheads,ring necks, model, gradwall, green winged teal but no mallards
we need a part 2!
As a native West Texan, the area he drew on his map is South Texas and includes the Valley. Maybe South Central, including some of the hill country, if we're being generous. West Texas is Big Bend, Fort Davis, the oil fields of Midland and Odessa, and East to Abilene. Draw a big old circle around that, but exclude everything super far west, like El Paso and far North which is the Panhandle. If you are looking at a satellite image and it looks green, you are looking East of West Texas.
As a Texan, that’s not west Texas...
West Texas is called south texas, the panhandle is called West Texas, North Texas is called the metroplex, South Texas is called the coast, and I guess East Texas is pretty accurately named. Hope this helps 😂
I watched a video of you hunting in Alaska for Sitka Deer. Have you ever tried Vancouver Island hunting Sitka Deer? It's tough
I have watched mergansers sitting behind spawning spring salmon on the wind river eating spawn! Physically saw it from above the bird looked like it was flying underwater behind these salmon!!
I just noticed Brody’s microphone says “suck it Brody” on it 😂😂
Brilliant!
I got me a mallard/pintail hybrid this last season!!
Could you guys get into the B.C grizzly hunt. It’s quite the situation.
Hey Mike, I’m in the Cariboo, too bad we can’t participate in the duck dna project, the grizzly hunt really is a “situation” . Would be nice if Steve would take up a conversation about it. Not sure if it would help our dilemma , but would be good to hear their take on it
What is the situation?
@@kanagawakenji7 long story short. It was a open hunt, now closed due to political pressure.
@@mtnman6942 anything that brings it to more people’s attention is never a bad thing.
Keep hoping to see you here in bozeman! Love what you do!
Idea for a pod that would rocket this cast to the moon....have Steve open up about his older brother and their conflicting thoughts on hunting
Why do you have to be so interested in their personal beliefs if they obviously don't want to share them or the conflict to be public? This is part of the problem today. Everyone has to know every little thing.
When you make your living being in the spotlight that’s part of the gig
Steve had his brother on a few times early on in the podcast go back and listen to them
@@Joe-xm3fm nah man that's what I'm saying. It's horrible to think that just because someone has made a name, brand, and podcast inherently means they can't have any privacy within their lives.
Sac Refuge!!!!! Great area
This past weekend the ducks were moving in southwest Minnesota! A far cry from what we used to see, but we’ve learned not to shoot the roost off of our ponds in the morning so they return every evening and bring us more birds. Couple few ducks every time you go hunting or every one limits once and they don’t come back to roost. It’s the dogs that keep me ducking these days + my son + my grandson! My county has lost most of the wetlands due to farming drainage and practices. Over 95%. That will wreck your duck hunting and hunters! Lucky enough to have access to private property. And have 2 dozen wood duck houses up and maintain.
1:11:30 Muley Ducks!
How soon until the Wooley Mammoth season opens?
why is everyone doing a podcast so worried about time... we are literally here to listen to you talk i could be 4-5 hours. honestly would prefer that but its super annoying listening to people complain like that on the podcast itself.
LOL!!! The growler comment went right over his head like a mottled, Mexican hybrid at 100 yards Ha ha ha😂😂
Max is 100 percent right. The twin cities are holding birds year around with all the factories pumping hot water back into the rivers and lakes. So they have a place to be year around.
Around me it's water treatment ponds, every town's water treatment plant has retention ponds that hold an absurd number of birds and all off limits to hunters.
"lets not make the show 2 hours and a half" 2:42
We have a ton on mallards feeding on spawned salmon here in the PNW
I wonder if they taste different that time of year; like spring vs fall black bears.
I have been asked to do the wing surveys numerus times. That is my guess where they are getting the numbers based on species. The HIP in Nebraska has only said ducks in the verbiage.
Man if you want genetics from western Canada Alberta specifically i would send samples to ya no problem
And I’d send samples from British Columbia
So the question is really, are eastern Mallards bound to extinction? They have survived for how many years now? This is extremely interesting. Definitely sounds a lot like Pheasants here in the Atlantic states. They boomed and then died out.
Lol Corinne 7:40 well that didn’t happen but I don’t think anyone complained😂
I’ve seen a pair juvenile Mallards feeding on shad just after the spawn in Castaic Lake CA.
So much so we ended up moving spots after the pair made a few too many attempts to steal live bait off the hook.
What about Texas Hill Country.
I don't duck hunt and I never plan to, but this was really interesting information.
You should try at least once. Lots of fun
Saying New Zealand doesn't have preditors except cats isn't quite right. We have Ferrets, stoats, weasels, hedgehogs, rats, hawks and even blackback gulls all predate on ducks here
Would suggest no time limit on lively discussions. That is the advantage of having a podcast.
I would have liked to have seen this podcast with waterfowl biologists from USFWS included.
Why? The federal government is AWFUL at wildlife research and control.
@@Ca_Tule_Ninja Why? Because the USFWS sets the regulations and handles much of the data collection and analyses. In conjunction with state agencies this is how seasons and limits are set.
Because you for an unexplained reason think they are horrible at research doesn’t make it anything but your opinion.
Much of the discussion on this podcast could have benefitted from explanations by those charged with waterfowl management.
In the uk we call gutting a deer “gralloching” and what comes out is “the gralloch”.
The Scottish government doesn’t give a cull figure but it does have the right to monitor deer damage and force extra culls. The deer (or any game animal/bird) is the property of the landowner to do with as he pleases.
With the volumes of deer we have to shoot each year we couldn’t possibly eat them ourselves so we have to sell them into game dealers so they make the food chain.
Could someone who went there to hunt eat the deer they shot? I don’t know if I would go there to kill a deer I’m not allowed to eat.
Crazy interesting.
I am a creationist,so the millions of years stuff is just stuff. Interesting that genetics, brings common ancestry back to the Biblical Ark event.
Great Content
Would love to participate in the duck dna program. The majority of the birds I get are mallards. Hopefully the program extends to Canada soon as well. I live a couple hours north/east of Toronto and would love to contribute
teal increase in MN may be because of the addition and popularity of the new early teal season
What he was going to say about white bread is not to feed it to ducks bc it causes angel wing syndrome twisting their wings outward causing them the inability to fly
How old are the producers? 90? Why still hung up on yesteryears time constrained formats??
Help us get a Black bear hunt in Florida
Khaki Campbell is NOT the blonde mallard. That would be more towards the buff duck.
I've watched plenty a mallard and wood duck loading up on baby carp in neighborhood ponds. I just think they wouldn't pass up a free meal.
There’s no way in hell Steve likes Brian Jonestown Massacre. I thought I was the only one in the country try who hunts and bjm is my favorite band
Are there 2 meat eater shows
Scottish here, the word for gutting a deer over here is gralloch
Oh it's still funny!
I had pet malards, and they would run to us saying come get this bug. They 100% ate bugs and worms.
I thought khaki campbells were only domestic
In Arkansas you have to send in a tooth for aging purposes, but you don't have to actually bring them in.
New to waterfowling last year in the Nodak area wow I just got a PHD in farm ducks. Releasing domesticated animals into the wild 100s of years ago reaping the Ls in 2023.
Fast returns equal long term problems in the future
Facts
If there is more don’t stop the podcast, nobody here is making you, you are making g yourself stop with a time limit, I can handle a 2-5 hour podcast even in parts.
im from MN, at first, it was nothing but a couple blue wing teal then it was a crap load of greenwing, then it proceeded to be a bunch of mallards. it was a strange year....usually i get nothing but wood ducks.
Ducks definitely purposely eat fish eggs
Not pumped about the MeatEater waterfowl content coming. Duck commander affect 2.0 coming to a marsh near you.
Always said banded ducks where tame ducks lol and that sucks guise my GPS mallard is a “released” duck as well!
It's gralloch. The term for gutting a deer
The unabomber was 100% right
I know a border spot I can help