I use crossmark as well. I use wired in my bike and carry 3 extra foldable tyres in me when I'm riding. I love wired because it is easy to remove. I only use foldable for "extra tyres"
Just because they are not folding doesn't mean they are cheap, on my bike it is extremely hard to get the tires on and especially off, but it's impossible with folding tires. My rims are double lined and it's like wrestling with Andre the Giant each time to get them off.
Uhhhhhhh, this video just doesn't really answer the question put forth in the title. I could care less about puncture resistence, tpi, etc., etc. This video isn't a review of the Crossmark. Since both tires are exactly the same except for the bead, please just go out and put 50-100 miles on the wirebead tire and then take it off and do the same with the foldable bead tire. Report on any difference, if any. Then, the question is answered. With this said, I've ridden wire and foldable versions of the same tire (most recent was the Panaracer RibMO road tire) and I can report that there is no difference worth mentioning (assuming the design/specs are identical). The foldable bead can be easier to put on though.
"Since both tires are exactly the same except for the bead". Both tires are not the same except for the bead. He clearly explained that the lower TPI tire with wire bead has a much stiffer carcass, more rubber between threads and much higher resistance to cut & puncture damage and greater tread longevity. The higher TPI tire with folding bead is lighter and carcass is more compliant to road surface.
Is the rims in very good condition. The rims I have is a little bent and it's touching the brakes. I'ma take pictures of the bikes I have so I can order some bike wheels and inner tubes. If you have some wheels and inner tubes already on the I rather take that option instead of just buying it seperate. Like a car or a truck it should be a way to Mont a spare wheel on a bike especially the back wheel ? I have like three 26 inch wheel bikes. I have a Orange Cannadale I believe it's 27 inches but I'ma take good clear picture. If you have Tannus Tires that's even better ??
Good information on the pros & cons of lower TPI vs higher TPI in tire performance which is typically directly related wire bead vs folding bead tire manufacture. Those with low attention spans and inattention to detail will miss the point as indicated by some of the comments.
Why is buying bicycle tires so f...ing complicated? Have I not done enough research? Will I need a PhD? Thanks! I found this very helpful. I'm okay with the Maxxis tires that came on my Cyclocross bike but they do seem a little too soft. I was thinking maybe it was a materials defect.
I think wired one are more easy to turned into tubeless with a hand or foot pump, specially the swalbe which are very difficult to sit, while maxxis and continental are so easy to sit on the rim. They wired swalbes sits better and are more tied to the rim. On the other hand wired ones dont forgive errors in pressure. If lets say they have 45 PSI limit and you have it on 40PSI and it is summer while tubeless (120ml -150ml tubeless liquid), they might exploded (get off the rim) cause of the augmentation of air volume in the tire. Once a portion get on its limit it takes all the tire out like a train, both sides...
Good explanation bro. My new fat bike had a very soft compound tyre. I couldnt get those tyre rolled smoothly even going downhill on asphlat road. I tried adding tyre pressure but not much improvement. Now im using a cheap hard compound tyre just to experiment and to my supprise , the cheap and heavy tyre improve my bike rolling drastically. I dont think those tyres are durable for long term use, hence im planning to buy foldable tyre as emergeycy back up tyres.
Do folding tyres not need an inner tube? I've seen people talking about folded because you can take a spare in case of puncture but if you get a puncture, it's the inner tube that needs replacing?
The correct statement would be that Continental uses absolutely horrendous rubber on their wire bead tires. In fact, all of their non-Protection tires are made either in India or China and have poor quality control, on top of having worse materials in them. Brands like Maxxis or Specialzed do not do this - their wire bead models are simply the least expensive options, albeit with the same level of quality control.
schwalbe has different level of tires performance evolution and race, the last two is the best I believe while the performance for everyday use. QC in their tires are good but not with the OEM tires that come with low end bikes
That is wrong, FOLDING and WIRED TIRES use the most advanced rubber who is available across the board of any manufacture who actual sponsor MTB racers. I think you only think about lightweight fast rolling XC tires but in the other disciplines you need a much tougher tire who also can dig in and allow you to go insane fast on corners. There are tires like the Onza IBEX for DH , top of the line for racing who are only wired because anything else will fall apart to fast.
Hello Danny. Question, I’ve got two cannondale bikes , 2016 caad 8 105, and supersix evo ultegra. However I just decided to buy a very old school 100% fully rigid mountain bike and fell in love with it. It’s a 2001Marin Bolanis Ridge with old school 26x1.95 wheels. Even a grip shifter. I don’t know what it is but it’s super light and fast ! Now I’m hooked on it , it looks brand new. Anyways my question is I’m a street road pavement rider only. I ride anywhere from 20-50 miles whenever I’m on it, climbing hills and cruises in nice plats, neighborhoods. My question about tires is this , my original tires on bike as you can imagine are new looking tread wise from never being ridden by previous owner but are extremely dry rotted everywhere! I want to purchase the exact same tire size but wondered what you thought would be the lightest fastest tires and tubes for the bike. I’m having a hard time finding this exact sizes anywhere. I have found maxxis pace online. 26x1.95. I’m looking for max rolling resistance also of course. What tires and tubes do you recommend for this purely street purpose bike. I also saw the continental race tubes . Any recommendations from you specifically would be highly appreciated. I’m a subscriber and fan of your channel all the way down here from Rhode Island. Thank you Dan. Aly
Hey Dany! So I noticed you were using Schwalbe on both your road bike and mtb, did you not like them? why did you decide to change? Also, you did not discus the width of the tire. Wouldn't a 2.3 or 2.4 tire be better performing? Thank man.
+Edwin Otero What's up Edwin! It depends so much on your preferences... Those light Schwalbe weren't very puncture resistant. So far, the Crossmark by Maxxis is my favorite. I am kind of old school guy, but 2.1 tire is just enough for me, as I don't run low air pressure on my rubbers.
Hello and thanks for the video. I have bikes with wire beaded cruiser tires and they are impossible to remove and add. I was so frustrated with it I cut the tires off. Wires even damaged my cutters. Can you please teach me how to remove and add these types of tires? Thank you.
These tires are on a sturmey archer set of cruiser wheels with a very high lip. I took it into the bike shop. They used the wedge and tire levers plastic and metal. They had a hard time taking it off. It wasn't simple. It's probably not a well thought out setup by the factory.
U-MOTO Motorized Bicycles sometimes my bmx tires get stuck in the rim on one side, similar issue. I hammered a tire wedge into it and eventually it broke free
Yes... I'm running WTB Weirwolf 26 x 2.3 foldable, and they are exclusively made for tubeless (TCS). My 29er has wire tires, and they too can run tubeless.
Instead of saying "um" "uh" "humm" "ughm" slow down and breath, be patient with yourself and speak. It will help you get to the point instead of filling silence with useless "words"
@@Zerimara23 But not really comparable. "Apples and oranges are alike because they both are fruit. They are similar because they both grow on trees and they both have seeds in them. Apples and oranges are different because oranges are orange inside and outside, but apples are different inside and out. Both are a fruit... true enough. Is eating fish the same as eating pork, both are the meat of an animal? Breadfruit is a "fruit" but I can't compare that to any other fruit. Wired tires and folding tires are designed to be different... why compare them? They are similar but not the same. You stay safe Ms. Mara.
Teflon? Never heard of Teflon being used in a tire. As for Kevlar, it's either used for the bead, or adding extra protection to the tire. Effectiveness depends on implementation.
Austin Slaughter Titanium tires are must puncture-resistant but cost more than full carbon tires. But can be folded so you can carry 6 in your jersey pockets, 2 per pocket, generally. Don't forget inner tubes! Mustn't forget inner tubes!
A few grams is overrated all you guys writing your 29 inch wheels should care more about that then a few grams here in there by the way don't drink that beer when you get home that's more than a few grams are putting on your body
A 27 1/4 is much bigger than a 700c. I use the Continental Gastorskin Wired. Because they will stay on better if you have a flat at high speed. Also keep the valve stem cap on. It will additionally help keep the tube and tire on after a high speed flat. I share this because i live in a mtn area and have experienced high speed flats. Imagine getting a blow out on a downhill in a corner(a tiny small sharp rock) As you attempt to stay in control the big 27in will try to separate from the rim. That is where the wire is best.
I wonder about the price - was it really 4 dollars? I think it should be about 40. In my country I could not buy even the cheapest tire for 4 dollars, not talking about the Maxxis brand.
Yea, sadly. They are a pain in the ass to get on and off the rim, but they are a lot stronger and cant roll of the rim when riding hard, like in downhill, but you cant even get DH tyres with wire in them anymore.
I love this bike; it is easy to use, very compact ruclips.net/user/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and it is just as described. It is a bit heavy, but at 35 lbs it is expected. I ride this bike over curbs, on rocky roads, hills, and trails with no problem. The assembling pieces got loose and it takes certain positioning for it to tighten up. Otherwise, I equipped it with proper lighting and mirror (which broke off), it's good to go. After riding a few hills, I was wondering if I could modify the bike to have bigger wheels, which I discovered it couldn't, that's fine. I just wish there were bigger wheels. I would totally recommend this bike to anyone whom is not a serious rider and want something compact and fun. I'm using this bike to train for an Iron Girl Triathlon. It gets tough, but it is doable.
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I use crossmark as well. I use wired in my bike and carry 3 extra foldable tyres in me when I'm riding. I love wired because it is easy to remove. I only use foldable for "extra tyres"
Really good in depth discussion of the differences. He gives the info on both so you can decide which is better for you.
Just because they are not folding doesn't mean they are cheap, on my bike it is extremely hard to get the tires on and especially off, but it's impossible with folding tires. My rims are double lined and it's like wrestling with Andre the Giant each time to get them off.
Thumb war lol
Uhhhhhhh, this video just doesn't really answer the question put forth in the title. I could care less about puncture resistence, tpi, etc., etc. This video isn't a review of the Crossmark. Since both tires are exactly the same except for the bead, please just go out and put 50-100 miles on the wirebead tire and then take it off and do the same with the foldable bead tire. Report on any difference, if any. Then, the question is answered. With this said, I've ridden wire and foldable versions of the same tire (most recent was the Panaracer RibMO road tire) and I can report that there is no difference worth mentioning (assuming the design/specs are identical). The foldable bead can be easier to put on though.
Couldn't. You couldn't care less.
"Since both tires are exactly the same except for the bead". Both tires are not the same except for the bead. He clearly explained that the lower TPI tire with wire bead has a much stiffer carcass, more rubber between threads and much higher resistance to cut & puncture damage and greater tread longevity. The higher TPI tire with folding bead is lighter and carcass is more compliant to road surface.
Is the rims in very good condition. The rims I have is a little bent and it's touching the brakes. I'ma take pictures of the bikes I have so I can order some bike wheels and inner tubes. If you have some wheels and inner tubes already on the I rather take that option instead of just buying it seperate. Like a car or a truck it should be a way to Mont a spare wheel on a bike especially the back wheel ?
I have like three 26 inch wheel bikes. I have a Orange Cannadale I believe it's 27 inches but I'ma take good clear picture. If you have Tannus Tires that's even better ??
@@SteveSUX2BU well seid
I’m here to learn about the puncture resistance. Back in your face.
Good information on the pros & cons of lower TPI vs higher TPI in tire performance which is typically directly related wire bead vs folding bead tire manufacture. Those with low attention spans and inattention to detail will miss the point as indicated by some of the comments.
Why is buying bicycle tires so f...ing complicated? Have I not done enough research? Will I need a PhD? Thanks! I found this very helpful. I'm okay with the Maxxis tires that came on my Cyclocross bike but they do seem a little too soft. I was thinking maybe it was a materials defect.
26 ain't dead!
After listening to you waffle on for ten minutes, I've got a question. Do you prefer expensive folding or cheap wired tires?
He answered that question multiple times in the video.
Lol, same question after 5 years. After watching this video I'm still confused which one is more puncture resistant.
Why is it preferential to use a folding tyre when going tubeless?
I think wired one are more easy to turned into tubeless with a hand or foot pump, specially the swalbe which are very difficult to sit, while maxxis and continental are so easy to sit on the rim. They wired swalbes sits better and are more tied to the rim.
On the other hand wired ones dont forgive errors in pressure. If lets say they have 45 PSI limit and you have it on 40PSI and it is summer while tubeless (120ml -150ml tubeless liquid), they might exploded (get off the rim) cause of the augmentation of air volume in the tire. Once a portion get on its limit it takes all the tire out like a train, both sides...
Good explanation bro. My new fat bike had a very soft compound tyre. I couldnt get those tyre rolled smoothly even going downhill on asphlat road. I tried adding tyre pressure but not much improvement. Now im using a cheap hard compound tyre just to experiment and to my supprise , the cheap and heavy tyre improve my bike rolling drastically. I dont think those tyres are durable for long term use, hence im planning to buy foldable tyre as emergeycy back up tyres.
Always use 700x28 on my road bike to many cracks and bumps where I live I am more of long rides
26 × 2.35
Do folding tyres not need an inner tube?
I've seen people talking about folded because you can take a spare in case of puncture but if you get a puncture, it's the inner tube that needs replacing?
Not when thr puncture or tear is big emough to damage the external tire too
Atleast Continental uses "better" rubber on folding tyres.
The correct statement would be that Continental uses absolutely horrendous rubber on their wire bead tires. In fact, all of their non-Protection tires are made either in India or China and have poor quality control, on top of having worse materials in them.
Brands like Maxxis or Specialzed do not do this - their wire bead models are simply the least expensive options, albeit with the same level of quality control.
LimitedGarry Do you got any info on Schwalbe?
schwalbe has different level of tires performance evolution and race, the last two is the best I believe while the performance for everyday use. QC in their tires are good but not with the OEM tires that come with low end bikes
bicyclerollingresistance.com
That is wrong, FOLDING and WIRED TIRES use the most advanced rubber who is available across the board of any manufacture who actual sponsor MTB racers. I think you only think about lightweight fast rolling XC tires but in the other disciplines you need a much tougher tire who also can dig in and allow you to go insane fast on corners. There are tires like the Onza IBEX for DH , top of the line for racing who are only wired because anything else will fall apart to fast.
Hello Danny. Question, I’ve got two cannondale bikes , 2016 caad 8 105, and supersix evo ultegra. However I just decided to buy a very old school 100% fully rigid mountain bike and fell in love with it. It’s a 2001Marin Bolanis Ridge with old school 26x1.95 wheels. Even a grip shifter. I don’t know what it is but it’s super light and fast ! Now I’m hooked on it , it looks brand new. Anyways my question is I’m a street road pavement rider only. I ride anywhere from 20-50 miles whenever I’m on it, climbing hills and cruises in nice plats, neighborhoods. My question about tires is this , my original tires on bike as you can imagine are new looking tread wise from never being ridden by previous owner but are extremely dry rotted everywhere! I want to purchase the exact same tire size but wondered what you thought would be the lightest fastest tires and tubes for the bike. I’m having a hard time finding this exact sizes anywhere. I have found maxxis pace online. 26x1.95. I’m looking for max rolling resistance also of course. What tires and tubes do you recommend for this purely street purpose bike. I also saw the continental race tubes . Any recommendations from you specifically would be highly appreciated. I’m a subscriber and fan of your channel all the way down here from Rhode Island. Thank you Dan. Aly
Thank you Sick Biker for another helpful video 🐴
Oh take me back to the days when tires only costs $4
Can they both go tubless???
Hi dany thanks again for the vids I couldn't comment on the bike fit vid as the comments have been disabled. is the second vid coming ?
Too long, too much waffle. Quit at 3:32
Can you use wired tires on carbon rims?
Is there a tendency those same wire threads supposed to protect the inner tube from extenal punctures will eventually puncture the inner tube as well?
No as the wires push towards the outside of the tire opposite of the inner tube
can a folded wired tyre be bent back to original
Wired or folding, has nothing to do with tpi or compound, it's manufacturer choice
Kevlar was a scam, doesn't protect the tube from puncture, i no longer bother if the tire has protection or not, I carry a repair kit with me.
Thanks for sharing your helpful guidance. It’s appreciated.
Hope ya feel better man.
I used a wired tube for my road bike 700cx25 for normal use or long distance
Sir, after watching your video twice I'm still confused which tire is more puncture resistant - wired or folding?
wired
Still a stupid question can i use foldable with inner tube or they can be used only for tubeless??
yes; any tyre can use tubes.
My wired tires always last longer, but can't get them at Walmart in-store.
Hey Dany! So I noticed you were using Schwalbe on both your road bike and mtb, did you not like them? why did you decide to change? Also, you did not discus the width of the tire. Wouldn't a 2.3 or 2.4 tire be better performing? Thank man.
+Edwin Otero What's up Edwin! It depends so much on your preferences... Those light Schwalbe weren't very puncture resistant. So far, the Crossmark by Maxxis is my favorite. I am kind of old school guy, but 2.1 tire is just enough for me, as I don't run low air pressure on my rubbers.
+cannondany I've heard many times Schwalbe tires are known for punctures
I use those tires tubeless even not tlr with no issues
wired tires is best for training
+Shawn P (Kye7) because it's heavier than folded tire
+Shawn P (Kye7) thats different bro, try it out and u will know
Rotational weight is different from unsprung weight.
As best as steel frame, combined together to train your stamina better,,
I agree with that, here in the Philippines we train with wired tires and go to race with folding tires.
Hello and thanks for the video. I have bikes with wire beaded cruiser tires and they are impossible to remove and add. I was so frustrated with it I cut the tires off. Wires even damaged my cutters. Can you please teach me how to remove and add these types of tires? Thank you.
U-MOTO Motorized Bicycles ever heard of a tire lever?
Wedge*
These tires are on a sturmey archer set of cruiser wheels with a very high lip. I took it into the bike shop. They used the wedge and tire levers plastic and metal. They had a hard time taking it off. It wasn't simple. It's probably not a well thought out setup by the factory.
U-MOTO Motorized Bicycles sometimes my bmx tires get stuck in the rim on one side, similar issue. I hammered a tire wedge into it and eventually it broke free
3 euros/tire? In our country it's 20-30 euros per tire...
Hi Danny ! What options do I have in 34/35 x 700 c tubeless tires. Pl help. Cheers
can the folded bead go Tubeless
Lee Bridgwater yes it can be run tubeless, just add sealant to the tire and inflate it, i mean accommodate the beads with a compressor.
Yes... I'm running WTB Weirwolf 26 x 2.3 foldable, and they are exclusively made for tubeless (TCS). My 29er has wire tires, and they too can run tubeless.
Why do some refer to it as tyre? Like British folks seem to mainly
What rear derailliur model?
Is anyone else falling asleep........?
Brandon Wilder yeah cause it’s 12 pm here and gotta wake up at 6:30am lol
Which tires you out?
Never ever ever ever I will use wired tires. I broken my rim trying to take them off. 5 different people could not take them off.
Well ur terrible at taking off tires
😄 easy to take off actually.
Хорошо говорите спасибо за видео
Is the wired version is durable???
yes, more durable then folded
Wired are better a little bit weight different
Instead of saying "um" "uh" "humm" "ughm" slow down and breath, be patient with yourself and speak. It will help you get to the point instead of filling silence with useless "words"
Why are you comparing apples and oranges?
Because they are the same category as fruits. XD
@@Zerimara23 But not really comparable. "Apples and oranges are alike because they both are fruit. They are similar because they both grow on trees and they both have seeds in them. Apples and oranges are different because oranges are orange inside and outside, but apples are different inside and out. Both are a fruit... true enough. Is eating fish the same as eating pork, both are the meat of an animal? Breadfruit is a "fruit" but I can't compare that to any other fruit. Wired tires and folding tires are designed to be different... why compare them? They are similar but not the same. You stay safe Ms. Mara.
this model is tubeless?
The wired one is the UST version.
maybe someone here can answer my question, which is TOUGHER Teflon tires or kevlar tires ?
I haven't tried teflon tires, but the kevlar ones aren't necessarily tougher, than the wired ones, but lighter.
Teflon? Never heard of Teflon being used in a tire. As for Kevlar, it's either used for the bead, or adding extra protection to the tire.
Effectiveness depends on implementation.
Austin Slaughter
Titanium tires are must puncture-resistant but cost more than full carbon tires. But can be folded so you can carry 6 in your jersey pockets, 2 per pocket, generally. Don't forget inner tubes! Mustn't forget inner tubes!
A few grams is overrated all you guys writing your 29 inch wheels should care more about that then a few grams here in there by the way don't drink that beer when you get home that's more than a few grams are putting on your body
played at 2x speed
thanks
can these wired tyres fit on older 1970 raleigh bike size 27 x 1 1/4 (32-630) because my old tyres are panasonic panaracer pasela tyres without wires?
A 27 1/4 is much bigger than a 700c. I use the Continental Gastorskin Wired. Because they will stay on better if you have a flat at high speed. Also keep the valve stem cap on. It will additionally help keep the tube and tire on after a high speed flat. I share this because i live in a mtn area and have experienced high speed flats. Imagine getting a blow out on a downhill in a corner(a tiny small sharp rock) As you attempt to stay in control the big 27in will try to separate from the rim. That is where the wire is best.
Can a folded bead tire use tubes
Some wired tires will seal, but you need high air pressure for the process.
Those two tires you featured don’t have anti puncture properties.
Thanks you very helpful
Ok foldable is better and 4bucks not very big difference
I wonder about the price - was it really 4 dollars? I think it should be about 40. In my country I could not buy even the cheapest tire for 4 dollars, not talking about the Maxxis brand.
The foldable tyre was $4 more expensive than the wired version. I don't think that he said how much they were to buy.
Rob Pennefather - you are very well spoken for a cat. How did you learn english?
Rough english on this one. What could be covered in 2 minutes is strung out to 10!
i can't even find wired tires anymore 😂
Yea, sadly. They are a pain in the ass to get on and off the rim, but they are a lot stronger and cant roll of the rim when riding hard, like in downhill, but you cant even get DH tyres with wire in them anymore.
Gerry Rivaldy try Halfords online
Walmart?
Nothing up im watching this video ,, so tell me whats up with you
Am I the only one getting Compare the Meerkat vibes here? Simples......
I love this bike; it is easy to use, very compact ruclips.net/user/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and it is just as described. It is a bit heavy, but at 35 lbs it is expected. I ride this bike over curbs, on rocky roads, hills, and trails with no problem. The assembling pieces got loose and it takes certain positioning for it to tighten up. Otherwise, I equipped it with proper lighting and mirror (which broke off), it's good to go. After riding a few hills, I was wondering if I could modify the bike to have bigger wheels, which I discovered it couldn't, that's fine. I just wish there were bigger wheels. I would totally recommend this bike to anyone whom is not a serious rider and want something compact and fun. I'm using this bike to train for an Iron Girl Triathlon. It gets tough, but it is doable.
Count how many times you say erm/urm/errrrrr
Good video 😎👍🙋
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Please read of a script.
Wait what... tyres or tires?
I like Pie depends i think(AE/BE)
Tires in US and canada, tyres in the other english speaking countries
I like Pie tears 😭
Can you pls gift me pair of 26er tire sir I'm so poor😢
$4!!!....Oh! :/
Yo Cecil 4 dollars more
you talk too much and you made it so long geez
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TOO MUCH WAFFLE. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
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weight difference of the two?
He said 100 grams per tire