HONEST F1 Manager 2023 REVIEW | Is it Better than F1 Manager 2022? | Sim UK
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Welcome to 𝐒𝐢𝐦 𝐔𝐊 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖𝐒 the ONLY HONEST F1 Manager 2023 REVIEW.
00:00 F1 manager 2023 Review intro
01:32 F1 manager 2023 Quick Review
02:50 F1 manager 2023 Quick Review Caveats
03:43 F1 manager 2023 What is NEW?
06:45 F1 manager 2023 What has Improved?
09:35 F1 manager 2023 Issues, Bugs and Concerns
14:20 F1 manager 2023 Missing Features
18:15 F1 manager 2023 Review Final Thoughts
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Great and in-depth review. I will hold off on this one and see if Frontier D. actually get their act together.
Let's hope they do
Another glitch- If you have a widescreen monitor, a glitch exists where the User Interface stays in the middle of the screen and doesn't move to the outer edges of the screen like it should. This ends up partially obscuring your view of the race. This glitch was in 22 as well before it got patched.
Yes this is commented on the forum
You bring up many good points, many I agree with. However, I disagree when you mentioned changing “broken” parts being a bug. The parts get inspected after every race, if they pass it means it’s still in top condition. They fail and they can’t be used again. Aero Parts irl don’t lose performance unless they are damaged so this system is realistic in a way. The % represents how close the part is to failing. Also if teams irl had to build a new car for reliability reasons the cost cap would be breached rather quickly.
You make a fair argument...however, as mentioned on occasion I might want to overule the game and make that switch anyway.
Pretty sure redbull don't put a 50% working rear wing on either of their cars....but I do see your point 😃
Max Verstappen's confidence level should only have one setting: Yes
🤣 agreed.
Great review.
My issue is that it is NOT a team management game.
It makes a nod to it, but its a shallow experience. What this is, is a race engineer sim that forces you to hire two race engineers anyway.
It lags lightyears behind 20+ year old games like Grand Prix World, that were deep and replayable enough that if you didnt have time to manage races.. it didn't matter. There was a rich game for you to play.
The devs back then recognised that that a realistic f1 management game isnt going to provide an amazing experience at the track.. Just like real f1, most of the time theres not much for you to actually do but you have to remain focussed to do it.
Thats not traditionally considered appealing gaming nor is it respectful of gamers with limited time. Its more like working the night shift at a biscuit factory than an engaging game.
But the depth of the macro tram management, contracts and negotations, rule changes and new/departing suppliers, genuine talent development and more.. a game nearly three decades old wipes the floor with these new titles in every level but visually.
Thats inexcusable and reflects a poor understanding of the market.. as shown by how many dropped last years game within two weeks.
Great comment, thank you.
Seems like now they have started to get the basics together. Now I just hope for online play (can't wait to play this with friends) and possibility to create your own team and also create custom personnel, from drivers to designers to mechanics.
Good. I doubt they would have done that if the community and player numbers were not super low.
Thanks for the honest review. I bought F1 Manager 22 and returned it. Found it boring and shallow. Sad, but not surprised, to hear they haven’t made any big leaps. And those that say they made significant improvements-that may be right, but they’re going to turn this into FIFA and Madden. Small adjustments every year and charge full price for features that should have been in the original game. Buying this game only enables this nonsense. The fact they stripped developing F1 Manager 22 after three months, tells you everything you need to know. You’ll get “create a team” in F1 Manager 32. Multiplayer? That will be F1 Manager 47. This is the fundamental problem with yearly franchise games. For every year now, you’re buying 3-4 minor features/improvements, and lineup/track changes. It’s not a scam. They’re pretty clear with what they’re doing.
I'm very concerned you are right.
This year's iteration should have been just a DLC for the last year's game, at a cost of a maximum 20 pounds/euros! This way no-one would have complained for receiving only "3-4 minor features/improvements, and lineup/track changes"... but no, no, no... they need to squeeze our wallets like a lemon because they think we're all stupid and pay their price! 😂
Upsetting that this game isn’t as good as Motorsport manager. Visually amazing but missing so much.
What could have been.
i'll pick this franchise up when it gets near football manager level of detail and polish
Yeah wise.
I never bought the first and have considered buying the second but it sounds like my reservations still hold true: I’d rather they spent less time on visuals and a LOT more on depth. Look at football manager. It never made any attempts to look as realistic as FIFA and as a result is one of the best games out there. If I’m playing a racing manager I want multiple series to choose from and a larger driver pool. We see drivers switch between the junior series to F1, Indy car and WEC all the time. I want that in an F1 manager
It certainly lacks depth.
I like your idea about creating your own team from F3. Hardcore, start from scratch mode. Nascar had that kind of thing, albeit a poor level.
Thanks, a NASCAR management title?
@@SimUKReviews Oh no, it was part of the NASCAR series, in the career mode, not an actual management game. Apologies for confusion.
OH! OK, no probs.
I love that game, but cannot get past the dirt track racing on max difficulty, and I refuse to drop down to an easier difficulty lol
Nice review. What you recommend for ps4? 23 or 22?
23 IS vastly better. So if you don't have either, 23.
Totally agree with the fuel load after red flags. It’s painful. I also think the fuel gain on safety cars is ridiculous
Feels Way too excessive.
Wau - this is a hell of a review!
Thank you.
Thanks for saving me £40 :) I'm another that was burned last year and was wondering whether 23 was improved enough to warrant another full price purchase. It appears that it is not. I'd pay maybe a tenner to upgrade from 22 to 23 but in 6-12 weeks time they'll be abandoning it for 24.
Just give the franchise to SI games and be done with it.
They really should have offered a discount for 22 players.
My biggest gripe from 2022 version was the Ai cars always finished a race unless they crashed, they never had failed parts like a gearbox failing etc.
Watched a few vids from various places, seems like the ai go 2 abreast on corners to the point where it happens far too often. I suppose it's hard to get the balance right between entertaining and outright boredom of a train.
You mentioned tyre blowouts, is that for the other ai drivers also or just your own cars? That's at least a step in the right direction, but still want realism with other ai's having failed parts.
Good review, I'll pass on this until they make it worth playing, just seems like too many things once again need improving.
Cannot recall which race it was, but ai blowout with sparks everywhere lol
Thanks for the review. My concern about 23 is based on my experience with "longevity" with 22. You just need to go forward with research, no matter which team you picked, you would have fun for 2 seasons, then by 3rd, you'll be ahead of the pack byu a margin. 22 didn't have much longevity in that sense, and i fear it will be the same with 23 (and i don't see anyone addressing that point). Buying a manager game for just 2-3 season of fun seems off to me
Interestingly a fellow friend/player and I compared opponents stats, and mine were MUCH higher than his (F1 Manager 2022); which meant my game was much tougher.....not sure why?
So toom me 5 seasons to complete for 2nd spot....and maybe season 6 to win outright.
Worth noting i didn't do ANY research for the first 2 years, which didn't help lol.
So longevity is a problem for sure....but maybe not all ai advancements are always the same, you might find the pack are harder like I did??
Would require a few complete seasons to really check I guess.
Thanks for this review
Thanks for watching.
Best review so far, honest and tough over the game. Another missing feature could be the inclusion of a weather radar like we can see on the pit wall of teams. Now we aren't meteorologists yet make it a little easier to understand and it would just be so immersive, giving us another responsibility not just looking at an unrealistic graph.
Fabtastic idea, i love it.
Even Gran Turismo 7 has a weather radar, no need to be a meteorologist to read it indeed. It's a feature that should have been in there for a management game, weather plays such an important part of F1.
Excellent review as usual, and you make 100% of the right points. I would love to see everything you say changed, added to, or even removed, but regrettably I do not see it happening. 😔
Thank you....fingers crossed.
You can't convince me this isnt peter windsor
lol what a cool guy! Thanks for introducing me to him!
Also what i hate about this game is that you can exactly see tire life percentage of every driver during the race. Its so unrealistic. It would be great and more immersive, if we can se only how many laps have each driver on current tire. For example. Ver M 12 Laps.
100% agree.
Don’t the teams have an idea of “% condition” given the data from the tyre pressure and temps? It would be cool to see a feature where as you improve your team and hire better analysts your knowledge of tyre condition improves, moving from laps completed to a calculated “% condition%
So sale price only then? Sounds good to me!
I'll also never understand why they had to substantially increase the price this year, plus the fact that there won't be a discount for a pre-sale or even a 'loyalty' discount if '22 was bought. I guess getting as much money out of punters > making sure that the product is bug-free before release.
The have lost 2 thirds of their stock value in the last 2 years, and F1M22 did not sell as well as expected....rather than doing better, they just punish the players more.
@@SimUKReviews I did not know that, that's pretty intense for any company.
Yes indeed.
@@SimUKReviews So peak players on Steam according to SteamDB for '23 is about 6500. Peak for '22 was like 25k.
Yikes.
I didn't know that....kind of glad to hear it actually. Developers who do not listen or respect their community need destroying IMHO.
Thx for the review, but once bitten twice shy, no way im buying after F1M22, i actually like Frontier, they have some great games with great depth, this on the other hand is to arcade like as far as im concerned and MSM is still a better game when modded up...
Im sure the deal they have with F1 is very nice... but what ever money is involved its not worth your "name" as a company.... im sure if Frontier had full control over this they would not have dropped f1m 22 like they did, but... they did... and 23 is not worth another 40 quid more IMO..
My honest opinion is, this game is not for Sim management fans OR hardcore F1 fans (of which im both) this is for the new wave of F1 fans, and i will leave that there... and no disrespect to the wave of fans either.. the more the better.. but yea.. not for me and definitely not for 40 odd quid plus their D.L.C ... damn guys come on..... this is fifa in F1 .... but alteast fifa used to be good... its a money spinner pure and simple, nothing more
I agree with everything you said.
I'm sooo glad I never got the last one after they just totally abandoned it. And I wasn't going to buy this one because, well there's no way I trust them after that lol.. Kinda sounds like I didn't miss much
You are not alone in that opinion.
Well, ima keep playing motorsports manager on steam...
Love the max Verstappen joke btw
:-)
Great review!! The honesty is refreshing.
Thank you.
100% agree
Wish we could stop this behaviour.
It’s better but first race in and Alonso gets rear ended and he gets a penalty
Then ric rear ends someine later on in the same area the same way and still my driver got the penalty
Not to mention temps and tyres were solid and his confidence was very high and he still crashes ?
There needs to be a flashback option or I suppose save the game every 5-10 laps
There is too much `luck` and not enough of this game being driven by physics, stats and data IMHO :-)
@@SimUKReviews it’s to randomly generated an easy fix is just to cut back the frequency of crashes by 50% and call it a day it still feels unrealistic how often it happens
Despite doing everything you can to make sure
Ffs he wasn’t even pushing hard when he made the move I was easing him into it everything set to normal
Just doesn’t seem right
I've heard of p1 crashing whilst following the SC lol
@@SimUKReviews my god I managed to get Alonso p1 in q3
Seems like there’s no safe spot ahaha ima just save the game every ten laps and just try to get by on light and standard modes
There has to be a way to never crash or at least there should be by not pushing the drivers so hard
I feel like maybe three levels of push are not really enough....?
please lower back ground sound
noted, thanks.
At least your ban on the forums gives this review credibility, we know you aren't paid like most of other "influencers".
100% my alegience is to the buyer!
Thank you.
This is unrelated but why are devs so scared in other genres to make it so we can add content - has the game engines of today not allowed for editing?
They want all profits i guess.
when a management game is both released on consoles and pc, pc usually gets a better version more adapted to big screens or mouse gameplay. the sims was bad on consoles, civilization revolution wasn't a good episode, and even sim city 2000 on ps1 wasn't an aestonishing derivated from the pc franchise. why on earth a management game released on console has the exact poor gameplay on pc? the devs are lazy. the iu is approximatly correct, the graphic are approximatively decent, everything in the game is approximative and not a single detail was well cared. even the audio don't match the scenery, and there is sound bugs at many occasions.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah I noticed they banned you on Steam Forum. Guess they didn't like the criticism
Yep.
Their argument (and STEAM do NOT agree with the ban) is that commenting in 4 different discussions and sharing a link to my review is spamming....?
That's a legitimate review, responding to a legitimate concern about the quality of the game on a forum where people are discussing the same game.
@@SimUKReviews I have to admit the way they manage their supporters is shocking. My wife and I both got banned off Discord after we both bought the first game.
I made a joke about the porpoising and maybe if we are lucky it would cause Hamilton to retire. They then banned me for wishing harm on a driver.
My wife on the other hand only thumbed down a LGBTQ+ post they made, and they literally banned her for the thumbs down, even though that lifestyle and the promotion of it goes against our moral beliefs.
It offended my wife so much that she refuses to buy anything from that company again in protest.
WOW, I am sorry to hear they treated you both like that.
They are most certainly going down in my estimation fast.
Thanks for sharing.
@@QuintinHaarhoff You and your wife sound dreadful
Excuse you?
i hate games that make you read 20 emails betweens matches/races
Looks like I will stick to f1m22
This IS better, but not great.
LOL banned from steam forum ;) that was a complete mess due to an incompetent moderator and a couple of anime simp trolls.
You saw that? 😆
@@SimUKReviews Yeah I watched the whole thing, I haven't bought the game yet and am still on the fence due to driver errors from the last game. So I checked a few YT videos showing full game play and noticed this was still prevalent. However, DecathlonGamer reckons it's all tied to machinations in the state of your driver and car and pace, but I don't see it and reckon it's random. Still on the fence because I don't want to waste hours of life to spin out, lock-up and go wide if this is NOT absolutely due to real ingame reasons. So Still mooching around watching play throughs.
IMHO the stats and timings do not really drive the game; there is a chance modifier for certain in this game still...sadly.
I'm probably super biased.... but I just love this game. Thinks its brilliant.
Maybe because I'm not a nerd who can sit there playing 24/7.
I play one race a night when I finish work... and love it.
That's awesome, and I am Glad you are enjoying the experience (who are you racing as?).
I am much the same TBH I can and have played for hours at a time. No it is NOT perfect in my eyes, more concerned about the attitude of Frontier towards the Community and Reviewers like myself...but that doesn't take away what IS good about this game.
@SimUKReviews I'm Williams and I suck lol but I'm trying.
Is it normal for them to not allow you to adjust anything but frontwing on p2 in ajabjan however you spell that nation?
I don't know what's a big or what's regulations now.....
Def much needed in the game... but it is at the end of the day a game.. as long as it fills my time between work end and bed with enjoyment... I'm happy 😊
@@SimUKReviews it fucking crashes a shit tin this year tho.. 22 never crashed on me.
@SimUKReviews also, Russel is downsyndrome I'm 50% sure.. only a matter of time before he breaks his steering wheel.
Hasn't crashed on me, but people have been complaining about it.
Probably not
It actually is a lot better...but not perfect.
@@SimUKReviews ah is it . Nice . I’ve played 22 . Not really into sports games that release every year. That’s just me though. Tend to get them every two years. Might be a rare exception now and then . Like I have Alonso and Norris in my team in 22 . I wouldn’t want to start a new save. I just got 22 less than 6 months ago cheap like £9.99. Guess this is for the hardcore F1 fans. I’ll wait for F1 Manager 24 😄.
Or the sales, good move I would say.
Paid off youtubers 😂 Influencer hate that phrase lol like we're bloody stupid
I'm enjoying it. Most the issues are because of me tbh. I just feel this is the second iteration of the game so a bit of slack can be cut for stuff. Look how long football manager took to get to where it is now and it's still improving. The mod community is highly active too
You are far more forgiving than I am 😆
@@SimUKReviews if by next year it doesn't improve at least by half then I'll moan lol
LOL by then you will be over £150 invested!
@@antiadam666 I have alot of thinks I would like to sell you, since you dont care if it works proberly 😄
This game is way overpriced. Should have been $30 and anyone that owns F1 22 should have been able to purchase the game for $15. I own F1 22 and just can't see shelling out $55 dollars for an update.
Agreed.
Nobody ever said "one thousand nine hundred and eighty four." You can say "twenty twenty three" you know
🤣 you would think so wouldn't you....?
@@SimUKReviews hehehe