Unfortunately I don’t think the clamps held it in weird ways. Small amounts of error became large final error when multiplied over all the staves. If the angle is dead-on, it has no choice but to be closed right when clamped. I know from experience the hard way!
That's definitely what happened. Either the table saw isn't accurate enough or he's to sloppy. I think a little from column A and a little from column B.
Either the width of the staves or the angle is wrong. I saw there was a problem when you were rolling the staves and it closed up before you got to the end of the roll. Also, use Blue Painters tape, it sticks better. I know it's 3 years after the fact, but this showed in my Recc's now, blame YT ... for EVERYTHING!
I just came to this late too. Overall good video. As soon as the roll-up wrapped all the way around it was evident that the joints would be open on the inside. I haven't seen the rest of the build but if the diameter isn't critical due to having to fit pre-made hoops/parts I think it would have been pretty tight if he'd just eliminated some staves. Another couple of "late to the game" thoughts if anyone is reading; roll it up before you put on the glue and identify the problem then. If I got that far and realized the angle wasn't right but I needed the planned diameter I think I'd glue up sections... probably quarters... and then adjust the angles on the outer staves of each section to get it to glue up tight. It would also be possible to complete the glue up, making sure it's round, and then fill the inside gaps with epoxy after the wood glue dried. If you're depending on the wooden shell for its acoustic properties that would change it pretty considerably... I think.
Também fabrico tambores stave no Brasil e uso processo similar. A princípio, monto o tambor apenas com a cinta de aperto para então aplicar a fita adesiva em torno dele, cortando então a fita adesiva para esticar a "esteira" de blocos sobre a bancada e passar cola.
@@schinbeindrumco sorry for the odd comment lol. I've had a little wine :) I believe you were adjusting your blade angle on your knees and the shot just looked like an old "Dorf" skit.
Well I think this is first video of 100 I've watched on this channel so may as well start with the full build! ...oh hang on, saw the recent sanding one... close enough :P
Guttered. I spose you could cut the angle slightly less. Say 5.5 degrees, cut 30 small sections of that by 25mm, just wrap 1" tape and see how it closes. If too tight, you just cut a tiny bit more angle. That's what I've learnt watching this anyway
I liked your video thanks for sharing. Have you considered using staples on the inside of the stave to keep it together, it could save you time..?
Unfortunately I don’t think the clamps held it in weird ways. Small amounts of error became large final error when multiplied over all the staves. If the angle is dead-on, it has no choice but to be closed right when clamped. I know from experience the hard way!
That's definitely what happened. Either the table saw isn't accurate enough or he's to sloppy. I think a little from column A and a little from column B.
Don’t think the clamps are to blame. If you’re just slightly off by, .2 degrees, with 30 staves that’s 6 degrees off.
Either the width of the staves or the angle is wrong. I saw there was a problem when you were rolling the staves and it closed up before you got to the end of the roll.
Also, use Blue Painters tape, it sticks better. I know it's 3 years after the fact, but this showed in my Recc's now, blame YT ... for EVERYTHING!
I just came to this late too. Overall good video. As soon as the roll-up wrapped all the way around it was evident that the joints would be open on the inside. I haven't seen the rest of the build but if the diameter isn't critical due to having to fit pre-made hoops/parts I think it would have been pretty tight if he'd just eliminated some staves. Another couple of "late to the game" thoughts if anyone is reading; roll it up before you put on the glue and identify the problem then. If I got that far and realized the angle wasn't right but I needed the planned diameter I think I'd glue up sections... probably quarters... and then adjust the angles on the outer staves of each section to get it to glue up tight. It would also be possible to complete the glue up, making sure it's round, and then fill the inside gaps with epoxy after the wood glue dried. If you're depending on the wooden shell for its acoustic properties that would change it pretty considerably... I think.
Wait - if it rolled up nice and tight, but then you had to reopen it to add in the last 4-5 bits? Don't think it was necessarily the clamps maybe?
Right?
Awesome video! love that glitch transition at 3.20
Right? I worry I might over use that one...
Também fabrico tambores stave no Brasil e uso processo similar.
A princípio, monto o tambor apenas com a cinta de aperto para então aplicar a fita adesiva em torno dele, cortando então a fita adesiva para esticar a "esteira" de blocos sobre a bancada e passar cola.
Sim!
At one point you appear to have the worlds tallest table saw. :)
Thanks? ;)
@@schinbeindrumco sorry for the odd comment lol. I've had a little wine :) I believe you were adjusting your blade angle on your knees and the shot just looked like an old "Dorf" skit.
Not at all man, it was great.
Well I think this is first video of 100 I've watched on this channel so may as well start with the full build! ...oh hang on, saw the recent sanding one... close enough :P
Ok, I am interested in buying a stave snare from you. I am near Chicago, but happy to pay the shipping. Do you have a website?
Www.handbuiltdrums.com built to order. Check out the snare form.
what type of glue do you use?
Titebond3
Nick Offerman....is that you?
If only.
Wait... I think I know how this goes...
Guttered. I spose you could cut the angle slightly less. Say 5.5 degrees, cut 30 small sections of that by 25mm, just wrap 1" tape and see how it closes. If too tight, you just cut a tiny bit more angle. That's what I've learnt watching this anyway
Yeah that’s true.
Oh no 🙁
your saw blade is far too high up! dangerous business.