They actually explore this a bit in The Adventure Zone. Spoiler Warning: There are magic relics in their world that the Bureau of Balance collects because of how destructive they are. One of the relics grants wishes. The Bureau managed to retrieve it, but they did so too late. By the time they found it, a child had found it first. The child's wish turned their entire city into peppermint candy. The streets, the buildings, and the people. Everyone in the city died in an instant. So, yeah, this king not wanting to grant every wish definitely doesn't make him a villain...
I just watched the movie and honestly the King was not as bad as they tried to paint him. He came from a place that was terrible and violent. He created a kingdom and invited people to join him. He literally created a happy and peaceful place for people. He protected and provided for them. The bad thing was that he didnt fulfill everyones wish because he felt that granting some wishes could be dangerous. HE JUST WANTED TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLE. Now he eventually went crazy because of his paranoia i wont spoil anything but they wronged him in my opinion.
One singular person having control over EVERYONES hopes and desires, is not normal. Magnifico wanted the control. whenever anyone gives valid questions on his system he goes insane. "what if our wish changes?" "why not just give the wishes back to those you know you wont grant?' are all really great questions, but he goes into a spiral about how these concerns are disrespectful and unappreciative....what? These people are willingly giving you a core part of their unique self, and the thought of them having some worries and concerns over it offends you? He has himself convinced hes a great king, but a king who will take away the hopes and desires of people and go crazy the moment someone ligly disagrees with him is NOT a good king. its not suprising he turned to forbidden magic.
@@akeveryday5339 but they were literally living in peace and they were happy they didn't even pay rent. He is a good King that just needs more help in my opinion.
@@EveofPyrite well yeah if people were stripped of their innermost desires and had no will to pursue anything of course life there would be peaceful and uneventful💀 Him letting citizens live for free does not make him a flawless king, nor does it strip his obvious power complex. id even argue the reason he lets them live rent free is to boost his own saviour complex
You should listen to "This is the thanks I get" a little closer, or look at the lyrics. He's openly admitting that the resources he uses to help people aren't coming from him, but from other people in the kingdom. Their reward is just existing in his presence and within his kingdom. He's a narcissist with a savior/hero complex. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He may have meant well in the creation of this system and in his kingdom, but he also (perhaps unintentionally) made his citizens a slave to the hope that their wishes would be granted. Worst yet, they didn't get to experience the journey of worrying towards that wish. He consistently refuses to acknowledge the mistakes he made and refuses to take accountability, furthering the suffering of his people. He allows his ego to take control, which ends up making him the rightful villain here.
I would love a movie where the protagonist turns out to be the antagonist at the end and the antagonist from the beginning was actually saving everyone from what they believed they wanted/needed
You meant a story where the protagonist is a villain and the antagonist is a hero. Protagonist is who the story focuses on. Antagonist is just whoever stands in opposition to the protagonist. The role of protagonist and antagonist are mutually exclusive.
There are several. But I think you meant were the hero is actually the villain. And villain turn out to be the hero. Or well the good guy is the bad guy. And the bad guy is the good guy. I've seen several of these type. I just can't recall them.
And that he took a dream from everyone and they forget it. Because starting a family isn't a wish that needs magic, but you need to remember you wanted to it.
@@BilingualHobo I get the idea but that example in particular doesn't portray it too well since even if you forget your wish was to have a family that doesn't mean you will not have it.
@@javierguerrero9910yea but then the person who had that wish doesn’t get to feel the joy of having a family. The joy they would’ve initially felt had they known this is their biggest wish.
@@nishatlala3990 To be honest the initial premise of the movie about a person being defined by the thing they desire the most is wrong. And for that reason is why the morals of the movie are all around the place. The movie Soul made a better job at describing what having your happiness linked to a single one-dimensional desire is: obsession. Another piece of media that also explores it well is the game persona 5.
Why It's literally him granting the wishes If he doesn't want to do it why does he have to? "I make a wish that that cute underage girl over there with a long black hair becomes my love slave" The king is like "that's gross screw off. " Seriously why should he grant that wish why should he go to somebody else to see if he has to?
@@codeplays5672 If you don't have the ambition to make your own dreams come true; don't give the wish to the wish granting king expecting him to make your dreams come true for you.
@@madamefluffy4788she didn't said to grant everyone wish ,she said to let them know what there wish is so that they can work and try to make it happen because they forget their wish when they tell it to the king. And at the end that exactly what happens everybody get to know there wishes and try to achieve them. The king just wanted to grant those wishes that were not harmful for him. He said saba's wish of playing the guitar is too dangerous for the kingdom like are for real. Please watch the movie first 😂
Honestly, Disney tried to force Magnifico into that villain role. He grew up in a hostile environment and wanted to protect everyone, he wasn't wrong for being cautious... honestly he deserved a redemption arc, free my man Magnifico 😭😅
@@nicholassims9837 The book made him beyond redeemable, a book that went without explanation, without purpose, which is considered forbidden but kept in a magical glass cabinet... Honestly, I agree with OP, the movie forced Magnifico in the role of a villain by giving him a child-level fragile ego and making the people equally childish. Is Magnifico perfect? Not by any means. Is he a villain? Not before they made him use the book of forbidden magic, because he could, because he did not follow his own warnings.
@@nicholassims9837But that doesn’t mean his mind couldn’t be changed. They didn’t necessarily have to lock up him forever because he was acting like a villain. I do agree with the original commenter that he did deserve a redemption arc at the very least, but to be fair, most of the writing in the film is very flawed imo. I also find the talking goat to be kind of annoying 🫠
He means that when there houses burn down or get destroyed he would let then stay in the castle for free until you're new house is done and that he doesn't charge them rent
@@FrameFabulousthey didn't actually gi lve up their most special part. Ironically, one of the two or three things magnifico is actually WRONG about is that one. He didn't take their Heart. They still have that. Thats why theyre able to defeat him with singing from the heart. Overall the movie wound up being a confused mess with two different storytellers, one trying to tell a story where magnifico was a villain and asha the hero. The other was trying to tell a stoey where magnifico was a hero with a morally grey method, and asha was the reckless villain who broke thigns because she wanted INSTANT PERFECTION instead of working for gradual improvements. We can see plenty of...outlines of where magnifico was supposed to be a villain... But as one video put it, "without a victim, there is no villain"-and the citizens of rosas are established as beneficiaries, not victims. They were TOO subtle about the side effects of magnificos methods.
It's not that he didn't fulfill them. It's that he didn't give back the wishes that people weren't going to be granted. He kept them from them which made them empty inside. If he wasn't going to grant them he should have given them back.
Don’t forget Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. That movie showed how even only one wish could be destructive with Puss’s want for immortality and Goldie’s desire for a human family regardless of for the well-being of others. And don’t forget Jack’s want to be a literal god to do whatever is considered evil.
@@GhostRose6500But yk, at the end, almost everyone got their wish. Kitty finally got someone to trust, Puss values his one life, Goldie already has a family, Perrito had friends, and the Bears are gonna make their own pie business. But Jack died to magic in due to get his wish
@@MoonRouge.11 I’m pretty sure there’s no way they’d make a second part to this movie after all this backlash. They might as well stay quiet just like Velma did. And if they possibly have the balls to make another part to this it won’t help the fact they did a bad job at portraying the message to the first movie. Edit: Just found out Velma made another season… 💀
The thing that really gets me is how fast everyone that supposedly loved him, including his WIFE, abandons him because a book said he was permanently corrupted, and if a book says it, it must be true. So much for the power of love that Disney loves to profess. So apparently, you can establish a verifiable utopia and give thousands of people a safe, prosperous kingdom, but you mess up one thing and BOOM, you are irredeemable. Actually, that sounds exactly how society is today with not forgiving anyone.
I will say this No one should have their wishes granted And the king is literally breaking that ideal FOR THEM, he even says it in some scenes that he granted 14 wishes this year, and that the people gave him their wishes WILLINGLY No matter what, as much of the control there is, he is preventing some form of greed
I mean it does make sense though. Not everyone's wishes are going to be selfless and wholesome so there has to be a review process. Sure 12 a year isn't a lot but how do you even determine the best wish to grant in the first place? You have to consider the long term ramifications of granting said wish. Like what if someone wishes for land and then a mountain falls out of the sky.
@@carterryansremember this is a kingdom not a democracy these people chose to live there and can get the hell outta there if they want he literally lets them leave if they want even confirming also they don’t need to give up their wishes
For the movie I think that every one should earn their wish like working hard to get it will feel more better than just getting to right away so I think asha was just trying to get everyone wish back to that they can grant it not the King.
Why didn’t the king just grant all the good wishes and not the bad wishes? I don’t get why he had to do the whole “once a year, a wish will be granted” thing. Like, why grant a singular wish every year and not continuously grant good wishes as time goes by. The kingdom was literally full of hundreds of wishes, and I doubt more than half of them were that bad as he might’ve thought they were. Honestly, I don’t really get the point of the movie. The writing seems flawed and I think the message is sort of lost in the end with the whole typical Disney rebellious hero vs evil villain trope.
The King basically has all the traits of a hero, including not giving the wishes he doesn't grant back because they're either impossible or could be dangerous based on interpretation. They have to macguffin in a book of evil that consumes wishes, at which point it's not the thing, as much as the macguffin
Yeah. I understand keeping the wishes. Since at least some also seem to be impossible to grant for oneself like the person who wishes to fly. Reality is that he enforces the rules without bias. all wishes stay safe.
@@TrixyTrixter I think if they made it clear that 1. He forced people into his kingdom against their will 2. He flat out devoured wishes for power He could have been established as a villain. But it's very clear that he started the kingdom himself, let people stay there for free, and was still granting wishes to no real personal gain.
i know right? Soooo many things they could have done to make him actually a villain. Have him consume wishes all along, for instance, like in the cut content where his wife was in on it. Have him actually LIE, for another. Have the townsfolk ACTUALLY SUFFER from not having their wish. "With no victim, there is no villain."-some other vid I saw.
In the newest clip, apparently when he takes the wishes, he OWNS them and the people who makes those wishes don't remember having those wishes at all. Asha wants him to return those unfulfilled wishes back to the people so they can try to fulfill those wishes on their own (she admits that if they're bad wishes, they should be stopped)
I think that’s still a bad idea. Right now, the people are content. If the person doesn’t even have a longing for a wish after they make it, it is obviously not that strong of a wish.
@@dieselboore-yh2mu A person's dream (or wish) is a big part of our personality. Losing that dream creates a hole in our personality that makes us a shadow of who we once were. That is an absolutely horrid thing for him to do, stealing a big part of a person's life. And for your last sentence, you forget that Magnifico uses magic to steal their wish. Even the strongest of wishes wouldn't be remembered. Magic makes them lose any longing.
@@abbeyBominable123that is so stupid. Every wish fulfillments being granted can be dangerous and cause people to take things for granted. They would be spoiled. Everybody is content with their life. A wish is a desire, not a need. If they have everything they need, they don’t need to make a wish. Haven’t you ever heard the lesson, “you can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find what you need.” There’s a reason for that sentence to exist. Nothing taught this lesson better than Puss in Boots and the last wish. Puss wanted immortality, but he learned to value the one life he had. Kitty soft paws wanted someone she could trust, but she did get that when Puss earned her trust. Purrito got friends like he wanted. Goldi wanted a family but she had one all along. The bears got to open a pie shop. They all got what they needed with no magic required. As for Jack Horner, he wanted all the power in the universe and become some god only to be part of the star and destroyed so that was his punishment. So I have to side with Magnifico on this one. If you write a story where you have to spoil everybody by granted every wish and even risk bad ones being granted where you have to stop them or else you’re the bad guy and have the villain make the most sense, then you have failed at making a story. It doesn’t make any sense to make magnifico the bad guy for protecting the wishes and not risking them being spoiled, or corrupted. It just seems so forced to make him the bad guy. He just comes off as an asshole about it. So what? It just sounds like the easy and laziest solution to grant every wish. And the heroine just comes off as reckless and stupid.
@@ashebennett7726 dude, you're not getting it. The bad wishes should be kept away (like Asha said), but the good wishes should be given back to the owners (and not be kept trapped in a tower somewhere). The wishes that are returned shouldn't have to be granted either. Just give it back and let the people try to achieve those wishes on their own without Magnifico's help.
No the king isn't a villain he's actually making sense if everyone's wish was granted then everyone will be making dumb wishes and they'll be any complete apocalypse nobody will work for anything no one will achieve anything nothing will get done
I saw the movie. It goes further to depict people's wishes as a sort of life force. They don't simply say everyone's wishes should be granted. Asha says that people's wishes should be given back. That being said, I did find the movie kind of bland. The animation looks like it's reluctantly leaning towards what we refer to as the "Spiderverse" style.
No!!! No no no! That is absolutely not what happens in the movie! Ok, let me break it down: So in Rosas the King has everyone on the kingdom on their 18th birthday give their wishes to him. In the film, wishes arent just something you want, its a part of you. Your dreams, your goals, your aspirations. When the people give up their wishes, they became apathetic, tired, and disireless (as examplified by one of Asha's friends). During a song number we see a bunch of the people's wishes, from a woman who wants to sail to a man who wants a family. When Asha tries asking why the King doesn't bestow upon the people their wishes, he says that they could threten the kingdom- with an example of an old man just wanting to be able to make a song that inspires others. Knowing that the King has a point to not grant every wish as some could be dangerous, she asks if he could return the wishes of those that are innocent to the people so they could have that part of their being returned and go out to make their wishes come true on their own. However, the King reveals his true colors and a villain who is hording the wishes so he can remain in power. I have no idea how anyone who could think after reading this or actually seeing the film could think that Asha is the villain.
@@andrewdowns3673 Yeah, even though I found the movie to be kind of bland, King Magnifico was like a scammer promising people riches if they invested in him. He then uses people's investments for personal comforts and luxuries and his investors are left struggling.
@@andrewdowns3673 what sounds like to me the people need to stop being vague about their wishes. And maybe the king might be able to Grant more of their wishes if they stopped being vague. Because there is such a thing of be careful what you wish for if people stop being vague and be more specific than maybe the king might be able to Grant more wishes. Like for example you want a family what kind of family do you want what kind of structure to the family do you want. Because there are multiple different kinds of families there is one father and. Two children and then there's two fathers and one child and on and on, And on and on and on what what you have to be specific. Or or like you said he wants to be a sailor well there are different kinds of Sailor you want to be a fisherman. An Explorer or you know you just want to sail the ship and work on someone's ship while. You steer the wheel like they're different positions on the ship what do you want. Specifically it sounds like it's not his fault it sounds like it's the people's fault. For not being specific in what they want they still have to put in the work after he gives them their wish. But then again you might say well as the king's fault for not telling them to be specific yeah granted I'll give you that. The only thing he is guilty of is not teaching the people to be specific. To be realistic about their wishes and what that wish entails and what they want granted that's the only thing he is guilty of.
The irony is that the King was concerned that granting every wish would cause something terrible and then a star appears granting wishes and the terrible thing that happened was the King himself using dark magic and going mad.
Spoiler I know people say Magnifico is a bad villain, and his reasons for not granting all Wishes is stupid, but he does have reason. The king doesn’t grant everyone’s wishes because he thinks one would be too dangerous and eventually destroy everything he built just like with his childhood town. A bad person destroyed Magnificos home and possibly killed many people, probably even his parents, so he doesn’t want to grant everyone’s Wishes because he doesn’t want to go through that trauma again. Both Asha and Magnifico have good reasons on different sides, that’s why I’m saying this on RUclips.
Yes he was right for not granting everyones wish but Asha didn’t want that she wanted the wishes he was never going to grant to go back to the person who wished which is very reasonable I feel bad in a way but he also chose to use the book that he knew was bad and he chose that anytime anyone would question him, he would get mad like in the song”is this the thanks I get” people aren’t always thanking him because most of those peoples wishes will never get chosen and they won’t know what they wished for so they can’t do it themselves so he’s still the villain,he could of chosen another root and explained everything another way instead of gotten locked in the staff thing I respect your opinion but I just wanted to share mine I hope you understand
He is right when he points out that vague wishes can be risky. But he does show a clear controlling side and even becomes straight up evil by the end of the film. But in the beginning, hes not wrong about not fullfilling every wish
I think the story will be cooler if Asha released the wishes sooner, but one wish was a dark one and the person overthrown the king, forcing Asha, the King Magnífico and Queen, her friends and the star to work together to get the kingdom back under control. If we still want Magnífico to be the villain, we can have him be forced to use the dark book in order to have a fighting chance against the people and him be the final boss once the kingdom is reclaimed by him.
I personally feel like the plot would have been better if they delved more into why he wanted to keep the wishes safe in the first place instead of just for power cause it was clear that he cares about protecting the wishes and the people in the beginning - Mabye what was his wish like I am sure there was more than just having a bunch of power
I mean it clearly was not even for power. Not until after the evil book infects him does he even realize that he can use the ungranted wishes to get power.
Asha should've been the villain honestly that would've been a cool twist villain if they kept the advertising the same, which would've been really fitting for the 100th anniversary Disney Movie. Huge missed opportunity that prolly would've made bank
Here's the thing guys. My opinion is this. Maginfico's idea of not granting every wish because some could be dangerous is good, HOWEVER, after watching the trailer I realized he's not doing it to protect the kingdom, he's doing it to protect his power. This is also seen in the movie and he makes reference to it in his songs. King Magnifco disguises his "selfish intentions" with a good idea. This is what makes him a good villian in my opinion, the fact that he is able to manipulate people and get them all to believe what he's doing is good. However, I have another theory that when he started out as king he didn't grant certain wishes because he truly wanted to protect the kingdom, but then the power of him being able to control these wishes got to his head and caused him to develop dark intentions
You forgot one important context: He get his power to grant wishes from taking the wishes if people themselves. If a person gives their dream to the king in hopes of granting it, they will lose that memory along with their ability to work hard in order to make that dream real. He was the one who did the power play when the people can achieve their dreams themselves to begin with
@KW-de9sc The king is a scammer, people willingly gave their wishes hoping that the king would grant everyones wishes. But truth is he only grants a handful of wishes and keeps most of the wishes for himself to harvest magic. Regardless if some of those wishes are bad, he should return those wishes he can't grant because its not for him to decide. Wishes are peoples dreams or goals without it life is meaningless.
@@kenworks15 i mean he still grants some of them. Why is he the asshole if he still grants wishes and uses others to keep getting magic to grant more wishes. This makes him seem less bad and more like magic lottery where everyone gets really entitled when they don’t have a wish granted.
@@kenworks15to be truthful I’m not entirely sure what the king is doing is fully a bad thing and let me describe a scenario of how the king could be the good guy. So imagine this. A random man who can grants wishes goes to the greediest kingdom full of crime. He starts slowly grants wishes and once people catch wind of it and the crime ridden kingdom goes around and begs the man to make their wishes come true. A crime lord could ask for power yet once they forget and stop perusing the dream the crime goes down. People who beg for beauty to the extent it borderlines insanity or wish the downfall of others could forget their wish and become a better person. It’ll be interesting to see if that’s the case with the movie and see what’ll happen when the apprentice sets the wishes free since she’s willing to do it for both good and evil.
@@rodolfoleon4538 the point here is free will, one cannot just play god and decide for everyone, we are driven by our wishes, dreams or goals, it is up for people to discern their own wishes or dreams, both bad and good is what changes people to be a better person, without bad wishes we don't learn about the harsh truth of life, without good wishes we can't move forward.
Ya know, honestly if they made an utterly unlikeable guy be in the right for once without redeeming him at the end, that'd be awesome! It'd make such a complex story! Like sometimes you can have the best of intentions and still make a mistake. But I doubt they plan on doing that :/
I think i also agree It's like inflation When everyone have the same amount of money Money basically becomes useless If everyone wanted to be rich Then money would be usless like my example
You’re half right, Asha didn’t like how most of the wishes will never be granted. But she didn’t say to grant every one. She said that he could give them back, so people can make them come true themselves.
I don’t think he actually grants everybody’s wish. He takes the ability away from people to HAVE a wish and motivation to make them come true on their own
@@elderjose96621. Bad is subjective 2. No one should have that kind of power. 3. If he isn’t going to grant them, he should give them back and explain why.
Hope they make a sequel to prove The king's point and thus Asha realizes there needs to be a balance with wishes coming true. The king's logic is still flawed and can be the villain I'm fine with that. But in a twisted way, he teaches her sometimes some wishes can't come true whether it brings tragic or doom to others. Asha still is on the right to not take their wishes. I'd imagine the king would do that to explain it away and they clash once more that no one has the right to control a person's life or dreams. No human are capable of that. Only to guide and teach. Something the King may have forgotten and never learned. He only knew of thieves. I think that would be a cool sequel.
No one should be in control of any of it that’s the point of the movie the king was afraid and scared and used his trauma as an excuse to try and control his subjects by taking their wishes no one has the ability to measure out another person’s intentions or morality without having some type of bias you can’t say just give the good wishes well good and bad are measured out differently between individuals all over that’s the danger of magnificos mindset
Some people really miss the point of the plot. Asha wants everyone to be able to let their wish come true instead of one single person decides which wish has deserved to come true.
The thing that the King was wrong about, was taking everyone’s wishes and holding them for their power. Taking the wishes takes away a part of a person.
@@momoura305 egotistical and narcissistic isn’t enough to paint someone as a villain, or even mean. Those are flawed traits but traits that can give someone an amazing arc (like Tony Stark) or become their downfall (like firelord Ozai). Those traits weren’t what lead him to his downfall, it was the corruption of the book. When the queen said “this isn’t the husband I married” no sh*t woman!!! He’s under the influence of the book. Of dark magic. Just like scarlet witch who btw, wanted to kill a child at one point while she was under the books influence until she learned to overcome it. Now that was brilliant. The king was shown to be able to be talked down but because it would be harder this time now the dark magic got a hold of him, it’s impossible? Whatever. The queen was just negative and stupid. She knows he’s not himself and needs help. He should face consequences if and when they break him free of the dark magics grip, but trapping him in the mirror was too far. But because that’s too hard for her, trap him in the mirror. Guess she never loved him enough or at all. Even though she knows he can be talked down, just not as easily now that the book has corrupted him. Help the man! He’s your husband! What are you doing you lazy poor excuse of a wife? Egotistical and narcissism doesn’t mean having narcissistic personality disorder. For some characters, that just flaws they can overcome. Remember Kuzco? He was egotistical and narcissistic at first to the point he would kick poor people out of their homes for some birthday present to himself. But guess what? He was humbled as the movie progresses. King magnifico at the very least cared enough to give people security, food, shelter and what they needed and after his tragic background from humble beginnings. Yes kuzco was raised that way and he was young, but my point still stands.
Either way his morals are messed up. He claims he keeps the wishes “to keep them safe”, even when he sees that taking the wishes and making people forget them takes away their passion and wants in life. So someone who’s passions is art, would forget that they enjoyed the art in the first place
I feel like people forget what a king is, its a king he makes and runs a kingdom and makes a safe place for people to stay in from getting raided and everyone gives to the king and also can be taxed by the king, the kingdom is own by the king and whatever he decided is the rules, you want to live there? Do what the king says, give the king what you produce, its pretty simple 😊
Did you miss the part where he says not all the wishes will be granted but he still keeps them? That’s her issue. Once they make a wish they forget. If their wishes won’t be granted, then it isn’t fair to hold it from them. I don’t get how people miss this
At least someone understood the main point of the movie. They wanted to make a multi-layered bad guy so instead of just having him be a traditional villain he is instead a control freak who wants to do good things. It doesn't mean he's not a goddamn control freak. I'm also amazed at how many people who watch the movie talk about how he randomly changed halfway through the movie and it was jarring and it's like know his control was challenged and he snapped anyone who has ever lived with a control freak is very used to that reaction. I'm just amazed at how many people watch the movie and completely missed the entire point of movie.
Its still stupid because the point is that Asha wants the people to accomplish their wishes but what if someone wishes for everyone to die? Should it be right for the King to give it back so they could kill everyone in HIS kingdom? Makes no sense.
@@Moonbovine I agree but if you actually watch the clip before this one which they are not showing she clearly says that if their wishes are bad then they can take the right precaution and make sure that nothing bad happens but they should at least be giving a chance to make their wishes come true
Every wish granting story always says, "Be careful what you wish for." Not to mention, some wishes could potentially be bad. King Magnifico had every right to not grant everyone's wishes.
He really isn't the villain (even though the plot says he is). While Maginifico is arrogant and thinks he deserves more credit/praise for what he's done, he's ruled his kingdom the way he has for who knows how long, his people are happy/thriving and they have nothing but love/respect for their king and queen. Then Asha comes in, is upset about how he runs things and tries to tell him how to do his job better (which clearly pisses him off, understandably so) and when ratting him out to her family amounts to nothing, Asha wishes on a star to help her save Rosa's from impending doom (an impending doom that Asha herself caused by making that wish on a star; as it's the star arrival on the island and the magic it's doing that causes Magnifico to panic and use the cursed book that ends up corrupting him/making him the threat that Asha assumed him to be). So, yeah - the the movie doesn't intend it to be so, Asha is the true villain (and so is the Queen for how quickly she turned traitor on her husband instead of informing the people of her kingdom that he was corrupted by that magic book and doing nothing to try and help him).
You should listen to "This is the thanks I get" a little closer, or look at the lyrics. He's openly admitting that the resources he uses to help people aren't coming from him, but from other people in the kingdom. Their reward is just existing in his presence and within his kingdom. He's a narcissist with a savior/hero complex. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He may have meant well in the creation of this system and in his kingdom, but he also (perhaps unintentionally) made his citizens a slave to the hope that their wishes would be granted. Worst yet, they didn't get to experience the journey of working towards that wish. He consistently refuses to acknowledge the mistakes he made and refuses to take accountability, furthering the suffering of his people. He allows his ego to take control, which ends up making him the rightful villain here.
They were happy cause he was controlling their desires and dictators don’t like people thinking for themselves and asking questions the moment that started happening magnificent basically went ballistic and tried using corrupt and dark magic to try and control everyone asha is not the villain she exposed corruption and he didn’t like her asking questions the reason star cam was because she thought for herself and the moment something more powerful showed up it began as fear and he let it get to him star was not a threat to the people just the one trying to keep power over the people
@@lauraholbrook5323 Magnifico turns INTO the villain due to Asha's actions. Sure he is arrogant but rightfully so: having studied magic for centuries, build a kingdom from scratch, and a bunch of trauma from childhood. He rightfully gets to decide who he grants wishes to. Taking the wish away at 18 is basically a "Tax" for the kingdom. Asha gets a Deus-ex power because she is unhappy and sings to a star (btw it should be shooting star) - she goes Bruce alight with Reply all: Yes! - and unleashes a flying child kidnapper (Peter Pan Easter egg) and God know what else onto the world.
Imagine building a safe haven, a castle, an amazing community where everyone can be happy, and no one’s grateful just because you stopped them from getting hurt by their imagination 💀
@@wolf2966 There's literally only two rules for people to follow in Magnifico's kingdom - give him their greatest wish when they're 18 in the hopes that the wish would one day be granted (I don't think it's ever stated it's a guarantee those wishes will be granted, so it's not like Magnifico is misleading these people) and no outside magic in the kingdom. He isn't 'controlling their desires'; he's taking a single wish from them when they're 18 and decides whether that one wish is worth granting or not (and considering some of these wishes you see that hadn't been granted - how are the people who made them lost without those wishes being fulfilled, given how superficial they are?)
It's not the fact he didn't grant every wish that makes him a villain. It's very reasonable and Asha agreed. It's the way he went about things. Asha made a very logical argument to return the ungranted wishes as a middleground so that the people of Rosas could at least try themselves. Magnifico refused because he wanted to hoard them to feel powerful and stay in control. He screamed at Asha: "I decide what everyone deserves!" I think that tells you all you need to know about him. It's all about power.
I don’t think people understand how dangerous Wish magic is. Every choice that you make will have some type of consequences, like ending up hurting people even though you did to intend to do so
“Bitch, you gotta fulfill EVERY wish.”- Asha in a nutshell. “But I can’t, I don’t want to cause chaos.”- King Magnifico in a nutshell. *Wife revolts against him*
I mean it would make sense not to fulfill some dreams. Other dreams are sweeter when YOU make them happen. I can see where this could be a story where the protagonist is in the wrong, and the king is trying to protect her and everyone else, but she's too young to fully understand the whole impact. Then again, I doubt it's anything super deep
Here's my thoughts on how Wish SHOULD BE. It would've been better if, while Magnifico is still a villain because he used the book out of desperation, Asha realizes that she causes all of this and especially The Queen would try to break the spell within him instead of betraying him because she knows that he's a good guy really and was just trying to keep his kingdom safe. Asha tries to then remind Magnifico about the picture of how his kingdom was a mess back then, and then Magnifico stopped for a moment and then realizes that he puts his people in jeopardy and that as he destroyed the frobidden book, the evil spirits came out of him. The Queen hugs Magnifco becuase she's glad that she has the old him. And as for Asha, she gives the Wish back to Magnifico and apologizes for the damage she caused and that she's the reason why the kingdom went downhill. Magnifico got a little angry but understands why she overreacted to him by rewminding her from earlier that she is obviously young to understand and that Asha would do anything to undo the damage such as talking chickens. She cried and then Magnifco turned everything back to where it was and in return, since Asha learned her lesson, he changes his mind and give the grandfather the wish for his music career, but however, he wants to make sure the grandfather isn't using his wish for nefarious ways and Asha's grandpa said no and that he dreamed of making music because that's his passion and then everything went happily ever after. In the actual movie, THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE FEARED! If people get what they want without restraints, that would mean they would wish for something like immortality, they might use it for the wrong hands or any other nefarious stuff if they abuse their power. The kingdom will go to shit without him. @colbystearns5238
The Queen does try to help him, though. It's briefly mentioned, but she kind of gave up when she realized she couldn't, and put the kingdom first. I'll admit, that change was really sudden though.
If he wanted to make people forget themselves in terms of having their memeories erased on what their wishes are, he could just stick to that instead of being given a moral ground when he told Asha that the grandfather could start a rebilion which was reasonable on why he didn't grant that wish because he could potentially be a threat to his kingdom, or the movie would've been better if there was a plot twist that maybe that King Magnifico was lying about invaders trying to take over the Kingdom and really, Maginifco WAS the one who took over the Kingdom by eliminating everyone in his sight to have power and take everyone's wishes away. Instead, he was written to be a sympathetic villain. He especially said when arguing to Asha "YOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT! The reason why everyone comes to me is because they know they can't make their own wishes come true". He said an understandable line and that it's the truth though. There are people in this world that wish for something but some don't try to achieve it and expect things to go their way. Although, in Asha's right, she was trying to give the King options but she didn't need to go aggressive with him and while King seems to have an ego, the reason he's paranoid is because he's trying to take care of his kingdom. That's why he said "I DECIDE WHAT EVERYONE DESERVES!!" Although, it was a bad crime he committed, he used the forbidden book out of desperation to keep his Kingdom safe, but however, there could've been a lesson Asha should learn about Wishes becoming bad at times and that King shouldn't become too paranoid. That would be so much better but no, They don't wanna have Asha learn anything because "GIRL POWER" and all that stupid shit. These people at Disney can't write woman, I swear. They can't write them to be human just like everyone else and are just enforcing stereotypes, and it isn't just bad writing. I know what I said and they know what they're doing. Enforcing a bad message to children that kids should get what they want. Even if it wasn't intended to be that way, that's how children are gonna act and not listen to their elders.@@wolf2966
Everything was fine in the beginning. Everyone was at peace with King being in charge until Asha fucked it up. Why do you think she was in the Most Wanted List?@@wolf2966
@@emmanuelcarter3551why do people always live in a democracy but will always try and find a way to agree with a dictator. The end of the movie shows why giving one person ultimate power over a country. Could you be happy knowing your missing out on your life goals because Mr. Biden didn't think you could achieve them on your own
He is the villain not because he doesn’t grant every wish, but because he takes their wishes so that they don’t remember them. He’s didn’t wan’t people to remember their wishes and just decided to hold on to them instead of letting people pursue their dreams like how Asha’s grandfather wanted to play music and make people happy. Also he literally used dark magic against his own people.
Did no one remember that Asha had said in the movie. Not an exact quote but close enough “if the wish is “too dangerous” cant you just give it back? And they can try to make it come true for themselves? And if its really so dangerous they can be stopped” and magnifico immediately shut her down, slowly gets more and more aggressive and psychotic throughout the movie and quite literally crushes peoples wishes. He is a VILLAIN
#1 He hits his wife. #2 By not giving the dreams back, they cannot remember them and therefore, he erases their dreams and hopes. Everyone should be allowed to dream of something more.
Watch the movie his reasons are selfish and giving up those wishes changes those who turn them over it doesnt make them just forget the wish but lose who they are
@@shanesilva4257she also wants them o have the opportunity to fulfill their wishes themselves and magnificent knows if he does that then he’s insignificant and would have no reason to be in charge
The funny thing is... Asha never wanted everyone's wish to be granted, just her Saba's because she knew his wish was good. She understood that some probably were, in fact, dangerous. She just didn't want one individual, even if it was the king, to selfishly hold everyone's wishes when they could still belong to those who wished them.
Literally the only flaw was going by lottery and not having a review board or something along those lines. Then, if it’s rejected, it’s given back. It still doesn’t justify Asha.
Every wish have consequences, A good king knew what wish should be approved and denied what will go wrong for everyone and society. It's a heavy burden and responsibility it's the same as to rule a country.
People who think Magnifico isn’t the bad guy either didn’t pay attention or got their english/lit/etc papers handed back face down in school. Asha never wanted or asked him to grant every wish. She suggested that he RETURN THE WISHES so the people could pursue them themselves, if they choose. Remember he takes all memory of their dream and wish, so they CANT unless he returns them. Look at Asha’s friend after he gives up his wish on his 18th birthday!! Look at her grandpa!!! She wants them to decide for themselves what they do with their lives vs. the King deciding who deserves to pursue and realize their dreams. He’s a tyrant, and a narcissist who showed his true colors and threw a tantrum the MINUTE things weren’t going his way. Asha wants them to be free. How is that so hard to understand? It’s literally spelled out for the audience. I would’ve liked if Magnifico got a redemption arc vs. being trapped in a mirror in the end, though. Him healing from his trauma would’ve been nice, and I wish Disney didn’t decide Wish was the movie to break their whole ‘healing’ theme that’s been going on 😭 At the very least I would’ve liked if he was able to willingly step down.
SPOILER Well actually she's not upset ge doest fulfill everyone's wish she's upset he won't give the wishes back to the ppl he doesn't fulfill it to (they forget their wish when given and Part of themself)
After seeing wish myself without spoiling too much; I will give the Disney team a lot of credit from studying, incorporating, and referencing pieces of their entire catalog with plenty of cues from Snow White with the villain becoming increasingly vicious and menacing. The modern sensibilities are definitely there, (especially with the songs), yet any Disney fan that has seen most of the Disney catalog from Snow White to the contemporaries; there are references and nods to enjoy besides the plot, and the entire theme of wishes coming true with every thing to debate about subsequently. At the end of the day, I laud wish for taking so much from Snow White with modern sensibilities after watching those earlier movies myself on VHS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that he didn't merely fail to grant wishes. He sucked their passion for whatever the wish was out of them. If they wished to be a famous musician, he sucked out their passion for music. And he used that to increase his magical power. The fact that he granted a handful of wishes while blocking people from even wanting to do what they had been passionate about is pretty bad. He wasn't killing people, but he was willing to kill people to keep the system just that way.
You are wrong. He doesn't take the passion away from people, he just makes the forget what their wish was as a means to make them forget their worries. We see with the case where he granted the wish of the lady who wanted to make the best cloths in Rosas. She still had her passion of making cloths but she forget that he wish was to make the best cloths. And he doesn't use the wishes for power, he mainly take the wishes that are willingly handed to him by the people and decides which wish would benefit his people and his kingdom and which are potentially dangerous. He grants those he deems safe and helpfull and keeps those that are potentially dangerous safe under his roof (he doesn't do anything to take advantage of them). He only started using them for power after he was corrupted by an evil book and it's clear he never used them for power before when he literally says he never knew he could get power from them
@@nuhscott9058 Ok, but what is supposed to be the danger to Rosas from that woman making the best cloths for instance? I haven't watched it in a while, but I seem to recall people being depicted as down or sad after having their knowledge of what they wanted taken from them and excited when that knowledge was finally returned to them. Did he tell them beforehand that the process would erase their memory of what their wish had been if it wasn't granted? If not, that's a pretty big omission. And why keep their wishes and memory of their wishes instead of returning them if he wasn't going to grant them? Was the woman who wished to make the best cloths in Rosas going to overthrow the government or turn violent if she remembered she wanted to make the best cloths in Rosas? The idea of danger to the State as a justification for keeping what looked like hundreds of wishes and memories of wishes hostage seems a bit overblown.
@@anonaguy3008 this is going to be a long one but stick with me there was no danger to her wish which is why he granted it. Well from what the movie shows, everyone is happy an living a utopia without their wishes, the only one who is shown to by sad and depressed is the friend of Asha (don't remember his name) who wish to be a knight. Given that he's the only one shown that way, it's likely that it's just a personal issue with him and not that taking wishes make people that way. In the beginning of the movie, Asha herself explains it to new coming people how the process works. You have the option to give you wish to magnifico when you turn 18 for a chance of it being granted once every month and you forget what it was when you give magnifico. So yes they are aware of what they are getting themselves into. And about that giving them back, their are many reasons. The biggest and most obvious is that for those that are potentially dangerous to the kingdom and people, why give them back? Like for example, if someone wish to gain to power to get revenge on someone because that person bullied them in their past, why if that wish back? By giving that wish the chance to be pursued (whether by granting it or giving it back to the person to pursue it themselves) you'd be risking lives and unnecessary conflicts. By not giving the wish back you essential solve the whole issue. The person no longer remembers that they wished to harm someone out of revenge and can live the rest of his/her life happily in a utopia. Another but less obvious reason is that people are not going to be happy with it. They gave their wishes up to someone for a chance for it to be granted and then that person gives it back telling them them they won't grant it. Most people will be sad and disturbing by that and other's who are more entitled may be angry and feel wronged by magnifico (which could lead to bad things happening) and most people in Rosas are pretty entitled. I think this comment is long enough to I'll finish it in another reply
@@anonaguy3008 and about the wishes, you can't just put all the blame on magnifico for all of this. The people also share blame here. They had their whole lives to make their wishes come true themselves yet they all willingly hand they wishes to magnifico without a second thought. Hey ashas's grandpa's wish not being granted is the whole reason Asha started conflict in the first place and he's 100 years old. King magnifico is at best in his 50's and his obviously didn't build rosas since he was born, so Asha's grandpa had like 70+ years to pursue his own wish and look where he's at. The movie also tries to push thr arguments around the rights and wrongs of all this is Asha' favor is pretending the concept of a bad wish doesn't exist (which is very unrealistic and is pretty much ignoreing nuances). Again, the women's wish was not vague and not dangerous thus it was granted. The wish that was shown to get denied because of potential danger is asha's grandpa's wish, which is to inspire the next generation. Sounds harmless on the surface, magnifico even says so himself but you have to look deeming and think past the surface. Like magnifico says, the wish is too vague, there's no clue as to what he'll inspire them to do. Magnifico doesn't know Asha's grandpa and what he means by inspire, and even if her grandpa is the kindest person every, he might still inspire wrong people and get the wrong message across. So yes as said is it is, Asha's grandpa's wish is too vague and brings potential dangers which magnifico is not willing to test and given magnifico's past and paranoia from having his home and family destroy by bad people, you can understand where he's coming from. At the end of the day, magnifico's methods are questionable I'll admit that (nothing is flawless) but their are done with kindness in mind and have worked for decades
@@nuhscott9058 I get it, but I mean (short of keeping the wish of an aspiring violent revolutionary or serial killer or murderer or other felon in training) keeping the wishes feels more like thought control - not unlike an Orwellian thoughtcrime being punished by having the thought sucked out of their head and put in a de facto jail. Basically, Oceania would have happily hired Magnifico to work in their thoughtcrime division. And I don't think anyone has ever described Orwell's Oceania as anything but evil.
He wasn't the villain because he tried to be a good king and when you think about it he might as well never had to grant any of the wishes but they were spoiled and greedy.
@@youtubebobguy is he the villain because the movie said so? Or was he actually in the right? Like granting everyone wish 100% will cause greed and chaos or does everything just magically work out?? Also did they explain how the wishing magic work?
Actually Asha asked him to return the wishes he didn’t want to fulfill so that the people can make their dreams come true. I admit he wasn’t the villain at the beginning but when he realised that some sort of magic was a threat to his power he just went crazy and tried to keep his power which made him use dark magic. And of course he is unhappy that his people question him and his decision
Similar to how Tiana was told in "Princess and the Frog": People can wish on stars as hard as they can, but hard work can produce the greatest results...which caused Tiana to start working herself to exhaustion to get enough money to fulfill hers and her father's dream of having their own restaurant.
@@eternasapphiremoon81Because of what you said here, that is why I consider the Princess and the Frog to be superior compared to this new movie. Then again, I guess any of the old, classic Disney films are definitely superior to this one as well.
@@maxdejong5259 So you prefer to have damsels in distress with charming princes to come and save the day? this is 2023, not the 1600's. Times have changed, and we need to move with the times. Disney has.
@@maxdejong5259 when you have little girls nowadays watching these movies, would you rather they watch women/young women become someone waiting to be rescued? Or do you want them to see someone who's actually capable of saving themselves/accomplishing their own dreams? What sort of message you want these girls to take from this?
But he gives them false hope he will grant their wishes. Taking people’s wishes under false pretenses and then refusing to give them back them to allow them to pursue on their own is wrong. He is for sure the villain . Trying to save people from themselves for your own idealism is also wrong.
I trust they know how to count, if they are thousands and the king concedes a wish every month is clear someone never will get fullfilled, still they take the risk as if tbey were playing lotttery and you know that ypu can't ask for a refound just because your ticket didn't won the big prize.
@@xCoatlicuex Obviously they can count. But the characters also seemed different after submitting their wishes, according to their friends. They now lose a huge part of themselves that they had once. If they give their wishes under a false hope, then they're giving them to the king under a false pretense, despite the number of wishes. Cause for the king, it's not about actually ever getting their wish granted - it's only based on what the king wants, and he never tells his kingdom that.
Wishs are Life Goals, a part of iur Soul. Even If His intentions were good in the beginning. He robbs the wishes to force a soulless Peace. As the two new people GIVE their wishes, you See clearly how much pain in their faces Show and Just the Cheers from everyone Else are distracting them.😢
It’s a world where if you give him your wish it ceases to exist in your mind that’s what makes it scummy for him to hoard peoples wishes when he never intends to grant them. She doesn’t want him to reply “yes all”, she wants him to give back the wishes he never intends to grant.
I would say this would be better if it wasn’t a Disney movie, and instead a Netflix original, let the movie get as dark as possible, add death, not just “ king is bad he doesn’t grant every wish I want my wish” bla bla bla king most likely won’t explain why only he can grant wishes and the possibly very deadly consequences of what happens, with her being able to grant wishes now, and starts to realize the implications of some wishes, she then finds the king as a very old man with his kingdom empty he dies and is her secret father or something and now she’s cursed.
@@felixorozco4055 I know what you mean but I’m just tired of people no longer really killing off character to prove any type of point of actions have consequences
Asha wasn’t upset about him not granting every wish, she was upset because she found out not every wish would be granted, and that Magnifico wouldn’t give those wishes back to the people and instead deciding to keep them locked away in the tower forever. It wasn’t about granting the wishes as much as it was letting the people REMEMBER those wishes in the first place. Letting them make their own dreams come true. Once a person gave Magnifico their wish they would completely forget about it. This is what Asha was fighting for, for them to remember their wishes, hopes, things they thought they could only dream for that was taken away from them when they gave Mignifico their wish.
Honestly which movie did all of you see? Asha called Magnifico out for HOARDING all the wishes of the people of Rosas and MAKING the people FORGET them just for gaining power. She agrees with him that it is not good to fulfill every wish especially dangerous ones. But she says rightfully so that wishes which are good but can't be fulfilled by him because of whatever reason should be given back to the people who gave it to him and let them try to fulfill their wish on their own. Asha wants the people more independent and not to be told what to think
He doesn't do whatever he's doing for power though. Litterally towards the end of the movie, after having been corrupted by the book, THAT's when Magnifico learns what power hides in the wishes, he says so himself! What people seem to forget is that Magnifico's main motivation was to PROTECT wishes so that people don't have to feel the crushing feeling of having your dreams die in front of you. That's why he doesn't give them back. Then, sure, it went to his head, he's a man in power, but still! He never said he would grant all wishes, he said he would protect them. The only dystopian thing in this movie is that there is just one overseer of the wishes instead of a council.
For me Magnifico is the villain. His afraid bring him to became more evil, people weren't happy they were calm because they think their dream will be fulfilled. Sasha improved the situation, bad dreams simply do not come true while the good dreams yes. People weren't happy under Magnifico in a strict sense.
Magnifico was already narcissist even before asha wished on a star. The protection he gives to people is because of his own narcissism. That's a villain's characteristic.
The point is you should not give you our wish. You have the ability and responsibility to make your wish come true. Most wishes can’t be granted but it is the pursuit of something transcendent that makes our life here special. Magnifico protects the wishes as a trauma response. It’s the negative aspect of the mother archetype. So he can be doing it for a good reason and to be kind. But it is still wrong.
He literally didnt want anyone else to have control over their wishes it would've been okay if they had remembered them or still been happy but they changed when thet gave up their wishes magnifico literally explained that people's wishes are the best part of them
People are missing the point, it is not about fulfilling everyone's wish, it is about the King taking away their dreams and goals because he deems them as too risky. Thats not fair, everyone right now was a chance to dream and chase their goal, the people there cannot even work for it.
Magnifico was a grey character which I loved! He loved his people but he loved them too much and kept them shackled to his power. Which is shown in the last part of the movie. His trauma was his downfall and kept his thoughts closed minded from anyone who questioned his ideals. The only thing I wished at the end was that he realized what he was doing was wrong. But I loved the movie overall.
" you need to fulfill every wish man "
Random psycho: " I wish for everyone to die- "
This is the Wish what Jack Horner will do
Saba's wish to inspire the next generation to revolt against the kingdom came true....
Austrian painter with funny mustache: "Well, don't mind if I do"
pretty much
They actually explore this a bit in The Adventure Zone. Spoiler Warning: There are magic relics in their world that the Bureau of Balance collects because of how destructive they are. One of the relics grants wishes. The Bureau managed to retrieve it, but they did so too late. By the time they found it, a child had found it first. The child's wish turned their entire city into peppermint candy. The streets, the buildings, and the people. Everyone in the city died in an instant.
So, yeah, this king not wanting to grant every wish definitely doesn't make him a villain...
I just watched the movie and honestly the King was not as bad as they tried to paint him. He came from a place that was terrible and violent. He created a kingdom and invited people to join him. He literally created a happy and peaceful place for people. He protected and provided for them. The bad thing was that he didnt fulfill everyones wish because he felt that granting some wishes could be dangerous. HE JUST WANTED TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLE. Now he eventually went crazy because of his paranoia i wont spoil anything but they wronged him in my opinion.
One singular person having control over EVERYONES hopes and desires, is not normal. Magnifico wanted the control. whenever anyone gives valid questions on his system he goes insane. "what if our wish changes?" "why not just give the wishes back to those you know you wont grant?' are all really great questions, but he goes into a spiral about how these concerns are disrespectful and unappreciative....what? These people are willingly giving you a core part of their unique self, and the thought of them having some worries and concerns over it offends you? He has himself convinced hes a great king, but a king who will take away the hopes and desires of people and go crazy the moment someone ligly disagrees with him is NOT a good king. its not suprising he turned to forbidden magic.
@@akeveryday5339 but they were literally living in peace and they were happy they didn't even pay rent. He is a good King that just needs more help in my opinion.
@@EveofPyrite well yeah if people were stripped of their innermost desires and had no will to pursue anything of course life there would be peaceful and uneventful💀
Him letting citizens live for free does not make him a flawless king, nor does it strip his obvious power complex. id even argue the reason he lets them live rent free is to boost his own saviour complex
You should listen to "This is the thanks I get" a little closer, or look at the lyrics. He's openly admitting that the resources he uses to help people aren't coming from him, but from other people in the kingdom. Their reward is just existing in his presence and within his kingdom. He's a narcissist with a savior/hero complex. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He may have meant well in the creation of this system and in his kingdom, but he also (perhaps unintentionally) made his citizens a slave to the hope that their wishes would be granted. Worst yet, they didn't get to experience the journey of worrying towards that wish. He consistently refuses to acknowledge the mistakes he made and refuses to take accountability, furthering the suffering of his people. He allows his ego to take control, which ends up making him the rightful villain here.
@@akeveryday5339 good I would love to live under his reign 😂
Asha: "Everyone's wish should be granted"
Edgy teen: "I wish for this whole world to end!"
Or someone wishing for immortality but not for endless youth
That is going to happen eventually
Someone is probably gonna wish for human trafficking to be legal
If someone wishes to be in charge or the wishes ever, they become a tyrant or realise that its not as good as it seems
@@duckman2173that's why you gotta be hyper specific.
I would love a movie where the protagonist turns out to be the antagonist at the end and the antagonist from the beginning was actually saving everyone from what they believed they wanted/needed
*cough cough* Megamind.
You meant a story where the protagonist is a villain and the antagonist is a hero.
Protagonist is who the story focuses on. Antagonist is just whoever stands in opposition to the protagonist.
The role of protagonist and antagonist are mutually exclusive.
There are several. But I think you meant were the hero is actually the villain. And villain turn out to be the hero. Or well the good guy is the bad guy. And the bad guy is the good guy.
I've seen several of these type. I just can't recall them.
@@morningrosie3684But isn’t Megamind the protagonist?
@@TreyC68 At the end. Not at the beginning. But it's kind of a similar concept.
The only flaw about his way is not having a council to judge the wishes.
And that he took a dream from everyone and they forget it. Because starting a family isn't a wish that needs magic, but you need to remember you wanted to it.
@@BilingualHobo I get the idea but that example in particular doesn't portray it too well since even if you forget your wish was to have a family that doesn't mean you will not have it.
@@javierguerrero9910yea but then the person who had that wish doesn’t get to feel the joy of having a family. The joy they would’ve initially felt had they known this is their biggest wish.
@@nishatlala3990 To be honest the initial premise of the movie about a person being defined by the thing they desire the most is wrong. And for that reason is why the morals of the movie are all around the place. The movie Soul made a better job at describing what having your happiness linked to a single one-dimensional desire is: obsession. Another piece of media that also explores it well is the game persona 5.
Why It's literally him granting the wishes If he doesn't want to do it why does he have to? "I make a wish that that cute underage girl over there with a long black hair becomes my love slave" The king is like "that's gross screw off. " Seriously why should he grant that wish why should he go to somebody else to see if he has to?
I would love the twist where Asha would destroy the kingdom because every stupid wish gets granted
Bruce Almighty knows this is a bad idea.
If he won't grant those wishes, then don't take them 💀
I was honestly hoping that's what this movie would have been. She learns the hard way that granting everyone's wish is not a good idea.
@@codeplays5672 If you don't have the ambition to make your own dreams come true; don't give the wish to the wish granting king expecting him to make your dreams come true for you.
@@madamefluffy4788she didn't said to grant everyone wish ,she said to let them know what there wish is so that they can work and try to make it happen because they forget their wish when they tell it to the king. And at the end that exactly what happens everybody get to know there wishes and try to achieve them. The king just wanted to grant those wishes that were not harmful for him. He said saba's wish of playing the guitar is too dangerous for the kingdom like are for real. Please watch the movie first 😂
I feel bad for Magnifico... Even his wife turns on him. Imagine all his stress handling the wants of the entire kingdom. No good deed goes unpunished
In fact, this whole story looks like a revisionist piece commissioned by the queen to justify her coup.
What good deed? He brainwashes people into forgetting their wish and steals them to become powerful
he smashes the wishes and makes them feel pain and grief like never before, stfu
He put a sword on her throat, tho (not quite, but almost). To me it was like he was threatening her so no wonder why shy turned on him.
That’s the 285th Rule of Acquisition
Honestly, Disney tried to force Magnifico into that villain role. He grew up in a hostile environment and wanted to protect everyone, he wasn't wrong for being cautious... honestly he deserved a redemption arc, free my man Magnifico 😭😅
No he was beyond redeemable
@@nicholassims9837 The book made him beyond redeemable, a book that went without explanation, without purpose, which is considered forbidden but kept in a magical glass cabinet... Honestly, I agree with OP, the movie forced Magnifico in the role of a villain by giving him a child-level fragile ego and making the people equally childish.
Is Magnifico perfect? Not by any means. Is he a villain? Not before they made him use the book of forbidden magic, because he could, because he did not follow his own warnings.
@@NightClawprower He still acted like a villain before he uses the book as he grows paranoid over the thought of anyone having any powers besides him
@@nicholassims9837But that doesn’t mean his mind couldn’t be changed. They didn’t necessarily have to lock up him forever because he was acting like a villain. I do agree with the original commenter that he did deserve a redemption arc at the very least, but to be fair, most of the writing in the film is very flawed imo. I also find the talking goat to be kind of annoying 🫠
@@nightmime8397 uh no it was a good thing he didnt get redeemed not all villains need nor should be redeem as look at White Diamond
Of course the guy who let you live here for free isnt the villain, he didnt even charge you rent
He even cleaned up all our messes and was always here for us when we needed to vent like we got no therapist here.
That's correct, but having them give your most special part? Not worth it
He volenteers Henry who is a master repairman
He means that when there houses burn down or get destroyed he would let then stay in the castle for free until you're new house is done and that he doesn't charge them rent
@@FrameFabulousthey didn't actually gi lve up their most special part. Ironically, one of the two or three things magnifico is actually WRONG about is that one. He didn't take their Heart. They still have that. Thats why theyre able to defeat him with singing from the heart.
Overall the movie wound up being a confused mess with two different storytellers, one trying to tell a story where magnifico was a villain and asha the hero.
The other was trying to tell a stoey where magnifico was a hero with a morally grey method, and asha was the reckless villain who broke thigns because she wanted INSTANT PERFECTION instead of working for gradual improvements.
We can see plenty of...outlines of where magnifico was supposed to be a villain...
But as one video put it, "without a victim, there is no villain"-and the citizens of rosas are established as beneficiaries, not victims. They were TOO subtle about the side effects of magnificos methods.
can you imagine the utter chaos that would happen if every wish were to be fulfilled/granted?
Yes, it would be chaos but, that would offend everyone beta and feminist out there so can't have that.
@@vendattavee1745can't have shit in this world man
You didn’t watch the movie that’s not problem
@@carterryansholding back wishes is completely okay the citizens chose to give up their wish
It's not that he didn't fulfill them. It's that he didn't give back the wishes that people weren't going to be granted. He kept them from them which made them empty inside. If he wasn't going to grant them he should have given them back.
He’s correct
Fulfilling every person’s wish would be utter chaos
Did y’all not see Wonder Woman 1984
Don’t forget Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. That movie showed how even only one wish could be destructive with Puss’s want for immortality and Goldie’s desire for a human family regardless of for the well-being of others. And don’t forget Jack’s want to be a literal god to do whatever is considered evil.
And coincidentally, Chris Pine voiced the King and also was on WW 1984
@@GhostRose6500But yk, at the end, almost everyone got their wish. Kitty finally got someone to trust, Puss values his one life, Goldie already has a family, Perrito had friends, and the Bears are gonna make their own pie business. But Jack died to magic in due to get his wish
@@yugiohgames104 that's another thing to, you can get anything from life, no magic required. The trailers of this film are saying otherwise.
Hell no I didn’t see it, the reviews weren’t exactly encouraging
Leader who understands that you can’t make everyone happy = antagonist
I just like how expressive he is
Me too😂
Oh, his facial expressions were one of the RARE highlights of the movie
The plot is " be careful what you wish for".
Yet Asha is trying to make everyone's wish come true. 😐
@@totepramos yup, such a good job on portraying that message 😐
And what if there is a second part?
@@MoonRouge.11 I’m pretty sure there’s no way they’d make a second part to this movie after all this backlash. They might as well stay quiet just like Velma did. And if they possibly have the balls to make another part to this it won’t help the fact they did a bad job at portraying the message to the first movie.
Edit: Just found out Velma made another season… 💀
The only thing I wish for in life is to be a drug attic and a drunk and to spend 10 years of my life in prison
The thing that really gets me is how fast everyone that supposedly loved him, including his WIFE, abandons him because a book said he was permanently corrupted, and if a book says it, it must be true. So much for the power of love that Disney loves to profess.
So apparently, you can establish a verifiable utopia and give thousands of people a safe, prosperous kingdom, but you mess up one thing and BOOM, you are irredeemable.
Actually, that sounds exactly how society is today with not forgiving anyone.
Fun fact : Asha means wish in hindi
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Why she so ashy and why she slap??
I figured it must mean wish somewhere, since they don’t pronounce it as it would naturally be pronounced in English.
Wow
fun fact no one asked
Imagine the horrors that would happen if Star could make someone fall in love with a person.
Discord Mods: Hmmmmmmmm 😏🤔😈
I will say this
No one should have their wishes granted
And the king is literally breaking that ideal FOR THEM, he even says it in some scenes that he granted 14 wishes this year, and that the people gave him their wishes WILLINGLY
No matter what, as much of the control there is, he is preventing some form of greed
I mean it does make sense though. Not everyone's wishes are going to be selfless and wholesome so there has to be a review process. Sure 12 a year isn't a lot but how do you even determine the best wish to grant in the first place? You have to consider the long term ramifications of granting said wish.
Like what if someone wishes for land and then a mountain falls out of the sky.
He's a hero
But he shouldn’t keep them if he isn’t gonna grant them or make them forget there wishes
@@carterryans He can do whatever he wants. He's the king. If you don't like his rules you can leave.
@@carterryansremember this is a kingdom not a democracy these people chose to live there and can get the hell outta there if they want he literally lets them leave if they want even confirming also they don’t need to give up their wishes
For the movie I think that every one should earn their wish like working hard to get it will feel more better than just getting to right away so I think asha was just trying to get everyone wish back to that they can grant it not the King.
But the King Grande wishes in this way, like giving someone who eonts to be the best tailor magical tailoring equipment
Why didn’t the king just grant all the good wishes and not the bad wishes? I don’t get why he had to do the whole “once a year, a wish will be granted” thing. Like, why grant a singular wish every year and not continuously grant good wishes as time goes by. The kingdom was literally full of hundreds of wishes, and I doubt more than half of them were that bad as he might’ve thought they were. Honestly, I don’t really get the point of the movie. The writing seems flawed and I think the message is sort of lost in the end with the whole typical Disney rebellious hero vs evil villain trope.
@@nightmime8397 it was going back to the classic hero vs villain
@@nicholassims9837 In that case, the movies great lol
The King basically has all the traits of a hero, including not giving the wishes he doesn't grant back because they're either impossible or could be dangerous based on interpretation. They have to macguffin in a book of evil that consumes wishes, at which point it's not the thing, as much as the macguffin
Yeah. I understand keeping the wishes. Since at least some also seem to be impossible to grant for oneself like the person who wishes to fly. Reality is that he enforces the rules without bias. all wishes stay safe.
@@TrixyTrixter I think if they made it clear that
1. He forced people into his kingdom against their will
2. He flat out devoured wishes for power
He could have been established as a villain. But it's very clear that he started the kingdom himself, let people stay there for free, and was still granting wishes to no real personal gain.
@@Diresilence reminds me of handsome jack from the borderlands series. although Jack's story was much better written
i know right? Soooo many things they could have done to make him actually a villain. Have him consume wishes all along, for instance, like in the cut content where his wife was in on it.
Have him actually LIE, for another.
Have the townsfolk ACTUALLY SUFFER from not having their wish.
"With no victim, there is no villain."-some other vid I saw.
In the newest clip, apparently when he takes the wishes, he OWNS them and the people who makes those wishes don't remember having those wishes at all.
Asha wants him to return those unfulfilled wishes back to the people so they can try to fulfill those wishes on their own (she admits that if they're bad wishes, they should be stopped)
I think that’s still a bad idea. Right now, the people are content. If the person doesn’t even have a longing for a wish after they make it, it is obviously not that strong of a wish.
@@dieselboore-yh2mu A person's dream (or wish) is a big part of our personality. Losing that dream creates a hole in our personality that makes us a shadow of who we once were. That is an absolutely horrid thing for him to do, stealing a big part of a person's life.
And for your last sentence, you forget that Magnifico uses magic to steal their wish. Even the strongest of wishes wouldn't be remembered. Magic makes them lose any longing.
@@abbeyBominable123that is so stupid. Every wish fulfillments being granted can be dangerous and cause people to take things for granted. They would be spoiled. Everybody is content with their life. A wish is a desire, not a need. If they have everything they need, they don’t need to make a wish. Haven’t you ever heard the lesson, “you can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find what you need.” There’s a reason for that sentence to exist. Nothing taught this lesson better than Puss in Boots and the last wish. Puss wanted immortality, but he learned to value the one life he had. Kitty soft paws wanted someone she could trust, but she did get that when Puss earned her trust. Purrito got friends like he wanted. Goldi wanted a family but she had one all along. The bears got to open a pie shop. They all got what they needed with no magic required. As for Jack Horner, he wanted all the power in the universe and become some god only to be part of the star and destroyed so that was his punishment. So I have to side with Magnifico on this one. If you write a story where you have to spoil everybody by granted every wish and even risk bad ones being granted where you have to stop them or else you’re the bad guy and have the villain make the most sense, then you have failed at making a story. It doesn’t make any sense to make magnifico the bad guy for protecting the wishes and not risking them being spoiled, or corrupted. It just seems so forced to make him the bad guy. He just comes off as an asshole about it. So what? It just sounds like the easy and laziest solution to grant every wish. And the heroine just comes off as reckless and stupid.
@@ashebennett7726 dude, you're not getting it. The bad wishes should be kept away (like Asha said), but the good wishes should be given back to the owners (and not be kept trapped in a tower somewhere). The wishes that are returned shouldn't have to be granted either. Just give it back and let the people try to achieve those wishes on their own without Magnifico's help.
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No the king isn't a villain he's actually making sense if everyone's wish was granted then everyone will be making dumb wishes and they'll be any complete apocalypse nobody will work for anything no one will achieve anything nothing will get done
I saw the movie. It goes further to depict people's wishes as a sort of life force. They don't simply say everyone's wishes should be granted. Asha says that people's wishes should be given back.
That being said, I did find the movie kind of bland. The animation looks like it's reluctantly leaning towards what we refer to as the "Spiderverse" style.
No!!! No no no! That is absolutely not what happens in the movie!
Ok, let me break it down: So in Rosas the King has everyone on the kingdom on their 18th birthday give their wishes to him. In the film, wishes arent just something you want, its a part of you. Your dreams, your goals, your aspirations. When the people give up their wishes, they became apathetic, tired, and disireless (as examplified by one of Asha's friends). During a song number we see a bunch of the people's wishes, from a woman who wants to sail to a man who wants a family. When Asha tries asking why the King doesn't bestow upon the people their wishes, he says that they could threten the kingdom- with an example of an old man just wanting to be able to make a song that inspires others. Knowing that the King has a point to not grant every wish as some could be dangerous, she asks if he could return the wishes of those that are innocent to the people so they could have that part of their being returned and go out to make their wishes come true on their own. However, the King reveals his true colors and a villain who is hording the wishes so he can remain in power.
I have no idea how anyone who could think after reading this or actually seeing the film could think that Asha is the villain.
@@andrewdowns3673 Yeah, even though I found the movie to be kind of bland, King Magnifico was like a scammer promising people riches if they invested in him. He then uses people's investments for personal comforts and luxuries and his investors are left struggling.
@@andrewdowns3673 what sounds like to me the people need to stop being vague about their wishes. And maybe the king might be able to Grant more of their wishes if they stopped being vague. Because there is such a thing of be careful what you wish for if people stop being vague and be more specific than maybe the king might be able to Grant more wishes.
Like for example you want a family what kind of family do you want what kind of structure to the family do you want. Because there are multiple different kinds of families there is one father and. Two children and then there's two fathers and one child and on and on, And on and on and on what what you have to be specific.
Or or like you said he wants to be a sailor well there are different kinds of Sailor you want to be a fisherman. An Explorer or you know you just want to sail the ship and work on someone's ship while. You steer the wheel like they're different positions on the ship what do you want. Specifically it sounds like it's not his fault it sounds like it's the people's fault. For not being specific in what they want they still have to put in the work after he gives them their wish.
But then again you might say well as the king's fault for not telling them to be specific yeah granted I'll give you that. The only thing he is guilty of is not teaching the people to be specific. To be realistic about their wishes and what that wish entails and what they want granted that's the only thing he is guilty of.
@@wolfbane7497 I agree with you. He won't grant any wish that might harmful or wish that is vague.
*Asha:* You need to grant every wish!
*Guy:* I wish for the tacos to be the only food that ever existed and every will exist
The irony is that the King was concerned that granting every wish would cause something terrible and then a star appears granting wishes and the terrible thing that happened was the King himself using dark magic and going mad.
Spoiler
I know people say Magnifico is a bad villain, and his reasons for not granting all Wishes is stupid, but he does have reason.
The king doesn’t grant everyone’s wishes because he thinks one would be too dangerous and eventually destroy everything he built just like with his childhood town. A bad person destroyed Magnificos home and possibly killed many people, probably even his parents, so he doesn’t want to grant everyone’s Wishes because he doesn’t want to go through that trauma again. Both Asha and Magnifico have good reasons on different sides, that’s why I’m saying this on RUclips.
Yes he was right for not granting everyones wish but Asha didn’t want that she wanted the wishes he was never going to grant to go back to the person who wished which is very reasonable I feel bad in a way but he also chose to use the book that he knew was bad and he chose that anytime anyone would question him, he would get mad like in the song”is this the thanks I get” people aren’t always thanking him because most of those peoples wishes will never get chosen and they won’t know what they wished for so they can’t do it themselves so he’s still the villain,he could of chosen another root and explained everything another way instead of gotten locked in the staff thing I respect your opinion but I just wanted to share mine I hope you understand
Good reason? She just wanted everybody to have what they want even if this is bad for you like a children will think
@@elderjose9662 He still refuses to give the wishes back like he steals part if there sprints
of course he does this wishes are bad for they@@nicholassims9837
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And it is for the SAFETY of the kingdom.
He is right when he points out that vague wishes can be risky. But he does show a clear controlling side and even becomes straight up evil by the end of the film. But in the beginning, hes not wrong about not fullfilling every wish
I think the story will be cooler if Asha released the wishes sooner, but one wish was a dark one and the person overthrown the king, forcing Asha, the King Magnífico and Queen, her friends and the star to work together to get the kingdom back under control.
If we still want Magnífico to be the villain, we can have him be forced to use the dark book in order to have a fighting chance against the people and him be the final boss once the kingdom is reclaimed by him.
I personally feel like the plot would have been better if they delved more into why he wanted to keep the wishes safe in the first place instead of just for power cause it was clear that he cares about protecting the wishes and the people in the beginning
- Mabye what was his wish like I am sure there was more than just having a bunch of power
Exactly
I agree. Not every Disney movie has to have a villain.
Yes
I mean it clearly was not even for power. Not until after the evil book infects him does he even realize that he can use the ungranted wishes to get power.
@@TrixyTrixter true could be
Asha should've been the villain honestly that would've been a cool twist villain if they kept the advertising the same, which would've been really fitting for the 100th anniversary Disney Movie. Huge missed opportunity that prolly would've made bank
Here's the thing guys. My opinion is this. Maginfico's idea of not granting every wish because some could be dangerous is good, HOWEVER, after watching the trailer I realized he's not doing it to protect the kingdom, he's doing it to protect his power. This is also seen in the movie and he makes reference to it in his songs. King Magnifco disguises his "selfish intentions" with a good idea. This is what makes him a good villian in my opinion, the fact that he is able to manipulate people and get them all to believe what he's doing is good. However, I have another theory that when he started out as king he didn't grant certain wishes because he truly wanted to protect the kingdom, but then the power of him being able to control these wishes got to his head and caused him to develop dark intentions
Trailer? Did you even watch the movie?
shoot lol i actually meant to say movie my mistake, thank you for catching that!@@elpopman2055
You forgot one important context: He get his power to grant wishes from taking the wishes if people themselves. If a person gives their dream to the king in hopes of granting it, they will lose that memory along with their ability to work hard in order to make that dream real. He was the one who did the power play when the people can achieve their dreams themselves to begin with
That sounds really stupid and convoluted
@KW-de9sc The king is a scammer, people willingly gave their wishes hoping that the king would grant everyones wishes. But truth is he only grants a handful of wishes and keeps most of the wishes for himself to harvest magic. Regardless if some of those wishes are bad, he should return those wishes he can't grant because its not for him to decide. Wishes are peoples dreams or goals without it life is meaningless.
@@kenworks15 i mean he still grants some of them. Why is he the asshole if he still grants wishes and uses others to keep getting magic to grant more wishes.
This makes him seem less bad and more like magic lottery where everyone gets really entitled when they don’t have a wish granted.
@@kenworks15to be truthful I’m not entirely sure what the king is doing is fully a bad thing and let me describe a scenario of how the king could be the good guy.
So imagine this. A random man who can grants wishes goes to the greediest kingdom full of crime. He starts slowly grants wishes and once people catch wind of it and the crime ridden kingdom goes around and begs the man to make their wishes come true. A crime lord could ask for power yet once they forget and stop perusing the dream the crime goes down. People who beg for beauty to the extent it borderlines insanity or wish the downfall of others could forget their wish and become a better person.
It’ll be interesting to see if that’s the case with the movie and see what’ll happen when the apprentice sets the wishes free since she’s willing to do it for both good and evil.
@@rodolfoleon4538 the point here is free will, one cannot just play god and decide for everyone, we are driven by our wishes, dreams or goals, it is up for people to discern their own wishes or dreams, both bad and good is what changes people to be a better person, without bad wishes we don't learn about the harsh truth of life, without good wishes we can't move forward.
Ya know, honestly if they made an utterly unlikeable guy be in the right for once without redeeming him at the end, that'd be awesome! It'd make such a complex story! Like sometimes you can have the best of intentions and still make a mistake. But I doubt they plan on doing that :/
They might accidently do it, but modern Disney is generally terrible.
That would've been great ;-;
I think i also agree
It's like inflation
When everyone have the same amount of money
Money basically becomes useless
If everyone wanted to be rich
Then money would be usless like my example
He didn't need to grant the wishes, but at least he should give them back to the people
You’re half right, Asha didn’t like how most of the wishes will never be granted.
But she didn’t say to grant every one.
She said that he could give them back, so people can make them come true themselves.
yép, but still ... some wish are not good to come true, magically or by themselves.
I don’t think he actually grants everybody’s wish. He takes the ability away from people to HAVE a wish and motivation to make them come true on their own
I feel like you missed the part where they willingly tell him their wishes
@@Aquaniansthinking he’ll grant them. But then they don’t remember their wish and can’t pursue it themselves.
Like disney theyselfs?
@@briannapinkney4966anda that's suposed to he bad? Some wishes showed in the movie are definally evil like the guy who wants to be a conquer
@@elderjose96621. Bad is subjective 2. No one should have that kind of power. 3. If he isn’t going to grant them, he should give them back and explain why.
Asha did not think if the wish was good or bad.
If I made a movie like this, I’d be very disappointed
Hope they make a sequel to prove The king's point and thus Asha realizes there needs to be a balance with wishes coming true. The king's logic is still flawed and can be the villain I'm fine with that. But in a twisted way, he teaches her sometimes some wishes can't come true whether it brings tragic or doom to others.
Asha still is on the right to not take their wishes. I'd imagine the king would do that to explain it away and they clash once more that no one has the right to control a person's life or dreams. No human are capable of that. Only to guide and teach. Something the King may have forgotten and never learned. He only knew of thieves.
I think that would be a cool sequel.
No one should be in control of any of it that’s the point of the movie the king was afraid and scared and used his trauma as an excuse to try and control his subjects by taking their wishes no one has the ability to measure out another person’s intentions or morality without having some type of bias you can’t say just give the good wishes well good and bad are measured out differently between individuals all over that’s the danger of magnificos mindset
Disney: Magnifico should have granted every wish
Random austrian painter who failed art school:…
Some people really miss the point of the plot.
Asha wants everyone to be able to let their wish come true instead of one single person decides which wish has deserved to come true.
The thing that the King was wrong about, was taking everyone’s wishes and holding them for their power. Taking the wishes takes away a part of a person.
He didn’t even know he could feed off of their power until the book. So no, he wasn’t holding them for their power in the beginning.
@@howsentimentalhe was still extremely egotistical and narcissistic, the movie makes sure to paint him that way as the story progresses
@@momoura305 egotistical and narcissistic isn’t enough to paint someone as a villain, or even mean. Those are flawed traits but traits that can give someone an amazing arc (like Tony Stark) or become their downfall (like firelord Ozai). Those traits weren’t what lead him to his downfall, it was the corruption of the book. When the queen said “this isn’t the husband I married” no sh*t woman!!! He’s under the influence of the book. Of dark magic. Just like scarlet witch who btw, wanted to kill a child at one point while she was under the books influence until she learned to overcome it. Now that was brilliant. The king was shown to be able to be talked down but because it would be harder this time now the dark magic got a hold of him, it’s impossible? Whatever. The queen was just negative and stupid. She knows he’s not himself and needs help. He should face consequences if and when they break him free of the dark magics grip, but trapping him in the mirror was too far. But because that’s too hard for her, trap him in the mirror. Guess she never loved him enough or at all. Even though she knows he can be talked down, just not as easily now that the book has corrupted him. Help the man! He’s your husband! What are you doing you lazy poor excuse of a wife? Egotistical and narcissism doesn’t mean having narcissistic personality disorder. For some characters, that just flaws they can overcome. Remember Kuzco? He was egotistical and narcissistic at first to the point he would kick poor people out of their homes for some birthday present to himself. But guess what? He was humbled as the movie progresses. King magnifico at the very least cared enough to give people security, food, shelter and what they needed and after his tragic background from humble beginnings. Yes kuzco was raised that way and he was young, but my point still stands.
Either way his morals are messed up. He claims he keeps the wishes “to keep them safe”, even when he sees that taking the wishes and making people forget them takes away their passion and wants in life. So someone who’s passions is art, would forget that they enjoyed the art in the first place
A price everone agreed on in full knolage of the consequences
Km/king magnifico is actually good cause what if the wishes are dangerous
I feel like people forget what a king is, its a king he makes and runs a kingdom and makes a safe place for people to stay in from getting raided and everyone gives to the king and also can be taxed by the king, the kingdom is own by the king and whatever he decided is the rules, you want to live there? Do what the king says, give the king what you produce, its pretty simple 😊
Did you miss the part where he says not all the wishes will be granted but he still keeps them? That’s her issue. Once they make a wish they forget. If their wishes won’t be granted, then it isn’t fair to hold it from them. I don’t get how people miss this
At least someone understood the main point of the movie. They wanted to make a multi-layered bad guy so instead of just having him be a traditional villain he is instead a control freak who wants to do good things. It doesn't mean he's not a goddamn control freak. I'm also amazed at how many people who watch the movie talk about how he randomly changed halfway through the movie and it was jarring and it's like know his control was challenged and he snapped anyone who has ever lived with a control freak is very used to that reaction. I'm just amazed at how many people watch the movie and completely missed the entire point of movie.
Its still stupid because the point is that Asha wants the people to accomplish their wishes but what if someone wishes for everyone to die? Should it be right for the King to give it back so they could kill everyone in HIS kingdom? Makes no sense.
@@Moonbovine I agree but if you actually watch the clip before this one which they are not showing she clearly says that if their wishes are bad then they can take the right precaution and make sure that nothing bad happens but they should at least be giving a chance to make their wishes come true
Thank you that was exactly what I was gonna say.
Fuck that asha is still the villain in my opinion
Every wish granting story always says, "Be careful what you wish for." Not to mention, some wishes could potentially be bad. King Magnifico had every right to not grant everyone's wishes.
He really isn't the villain (even though the plot says he is).
While Maginifico is arrogant and thinks he deserves more credit/praise for what he's done, he's ruled his kingdom the way he has for who knows how long, his people are happy/thriving and they have nothing but love/respect for their king and queen.
Then Asha comes in, is upset about how he runs things and tries to tell him how to do his job better (which clearly pisses him off, understandably so) and when ratting him out to her family amounts to nothing, Asha wishes on a star to help her save Rosa's from impending doom (an impending doom that Asha herself caused by making that wish on a star; as it's the star arrival on the island and the magic it's doing that causes Magnifico to panic and use the cursed book that ends up corrupting him/making him the threat that Asha assumed him to be).
So, yeah - the the movie doesn't intend it to be so, Asha is the true villain (and so is the Queen for how quickly she turned traitor on her husband instead of informing the people of her kingdom that he was corrupted by that magic book and doing nothing to try and help him).
You should listen to "This is the thanks I get" a little closer, or look at the lyrics. He's openly admitting that the resources he uses to help people aren't coming from him, but from other people in the kingdom. Their reward is just existing in his presence and within his kingdom. He's a narcissist with a savior/hero complex. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He may have meant well in the creation of this system and in his kingdom, but he also (perhaps unintentionally) made his citizens a slave to the hope that their wishes would be granted. Worst yet, they didn't get to experience the journey of working towards that wish. He consistently refuses to acknowledge the mistakes he made and refuses to take accountability, furthering the suffering of his people. He allows his ego to take control, which ends up making him the rightful villain here.
They were happy cause he was controlling their desires and dictators don’t like people thinking for themselves and asking questions the moment that started happening magnificent basically went ballistic and tried using corrupt and dark magic to try and control everyone asha is not the villain she exposed corruption and he didn’t like her asking questions the reason star cam was because she thought for herself and the moment something more powerful showed up it began as fear and he let it get to him star was not a threat to the people just the one trying to keep power over the people
@@lauraholbrook5323 Magnifico turns INTO the villain due to Asha's actions. Sure he is arrogant but rightfully so: having studied magic for centuries, build a kingdom from scratch, and a bunch of trauma from childhood. He rightfully gets to decide who he grants wishes to. Taking the wish away at 18 is basically a "Tax" for the kingdom.
Asha gets a Deus-ex power because she is unhappy and sings to a star (btw it should be shooting star) - she goes Bruce alight with Reply all: Yes! - and unleashes a flying child kidnapper (Peter Pan Easter egg) and God know what else onto the world.
Imagine building a safe haven, a castle, an amazing community where everyone can be happy, and no one’s grateful just because you stopped them from getting hurt by their imagination 💀
@@wolf2966 There's literally only two rules for people to follow in Magnifico's kingdom - give him their greatest wish when they're 18 in the hopes that the wish would one day be granted (I don't think it's ever stated it's a guarantee those wishes will be granted, so it's not like Magnifico is misleading these people) and no outside magic in the kingdom.
He isn't 'controlling their desires'; he's taking a single wish from them when they're 18 and decides whether that one wish is worth granting or not (and considering some of these wishes you see that hadn't been granted - how are the people who made them lost without those wishes being fulfilled, given how superficial they are?)
He's so hot though 😫
Oh no…it has begun 💀
Bro 💀
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No he’s not!
Nah the newest song they released tells us there’s more than him just not granting certain wishes
It's not the fact he didn't grant every wish that makes him a villain. It's very reasonable and Asha agreed. It's the way he went about things. Asha made a very logical argument to return the ungranted wishes as a middleground so that the people of Rosas could at least try themselves. Magnifico refused because he wanted to hoard them to feel powerful and stay in control. He screamed at Asha: "I decide what everyone deserves!"
I think that tells you all you need to know about him. It's all about power.
I don’t think people understand how dangerous Wish magic is. Every choice that you make will have some type of consequences, like ending up hurting people even though you did to intend to do so
“Bitch, you gotta fulfill EVERY wish.”- Asha in a nutshell.
“But I can’t, I don’t want to cause chaos.”- King Magnifico in a nutshell.
*Wife revolts against him*
They wasnt going to be any chaos He was being unreasonable
That’s not the problem it’s that he’s not giving them back and making them forget there wishes
@@carterryans
"you need to fulfil everyones wish!!"
Na, she's just a spoiled brat that doesn't know what she's asking
I mean it would make sense not to fulfill some dreams. Other dreams are sweeter when YOU make them happen. I can see where this could be a story where the protagonist is in the wrong, and the king is trying to protect her and everyone else, but she's too young to fully understand the whole impact. Then again, I doubt it's anything super deep
Here's my thoughts on how Wish SHOULD BE.
It would've been better if, while Magnifico is still a villain because he used the book out of desperation, Asha realizes that she causes all of this and especially The Queen would try to break the spell within him instead of betraying him because she knows that he's a good guy really and was just trying to keep his kingdom safe. Asha tries to then remind Magnifico about the picture of how his kingdom was a mess back then, and then Magnifico stopped for a moment and then realizes that he puts his people in jeopardy and that as he destroyed the frobidden book, the evil spirits came out of him. The Queen hugs Magnifco becuase she's glad that she has the old him. And as for Asha, she gives the Wish back to Magnifico and apologizes for the damage she caused and that she's the reason why the kingdom went downhill. Magnifico got a little angry but understands why she overreacted to him by rewminding her from earlier that she is obviously young to understand and that Asha would do anything to undo the damage such as talking chickens. She cried and then Magnifco turned everything back to where it was and in return, since Asha learned her lesson, he changes his mind and give the grandfather the wish for his music career, but however, he wants to make sure the grandfather isn't using his wish for nefarious ways and Asha's grandpa said no and that he dreamed of making music because that's his passion and then everything went happily ever after.
In the actual movie, THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE FEARED! If people get what they want without restraints, that would mean they would wish for something like immortality, they might use it for the wrong hands or any other nefarious stuff if they abuse their power. The kingdom will go to shit without him. @colbystearns5238
The Queen does try to help him, though. It's briefly mentioned, but she kind of gave up when she realized she couldn't, and put the kingdom first. I'll admit, that change was really sudden though.
How is it ashas fault all she did was ask questions and realized the kings was taking wishes as payment as a way to control his subjects
If he wanted to make people forget themselves in terms of having their memeories erased on what their wishes are, he could just stick to that instead of being given a moral ground when he told Asha that the grandfather could start a rebilion which was reasonable on why he didn't grant that wish because he could potentially be a threat to his kingdom, or the movie would've been better if there was a plot twist that maybe that King Magnifico was lying about invaders trying to take over the Kingdom and really, Maginifco WAS the one who took over the Kingdom by eliminating everyone in his sight to have power and take everyone's wishes away. Instead, he was written to be a sympathetic villain. He especially said when arguing to Asha "YOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT! The reason why everyone comes to me is because they know they can't make their own wishes come true". He said an understandable line and that it's the truth though. There are people in this world that wish for something but some don't try to achieve it and expect things to go their way. Although, in Asha's right, she was trying to give the King options but she didn't need to go aggressive with him and while King seems to have an ego, the reason he's paranoid is because he's trying to take care of his kingdom. That's why he said "I DECIDE WHAT EVERYONE DESERVES!!" Although, it was a bad crime he committed, he used the forbidden book out of desperation to keep his Kingdom safe, but however, there could've been a lesson Asha should learn about Wishes becoming bad at times and that King shouldn't become too paranoid. That would be so much better but no, They don't wanna have Asha learn anything because "GIRL POWER" and all that stupid shit. These people at Disney can't write woman, I swear. They can't write them to be human just like everyone else and are just enforcing stereotypes, and it isn't just bad writing. I know what I said and they know what they're doing. Enforcing a bad message to children that kids should get what they want. Even if it wasn't intended to be that way, that's how children are gonna act and not listen to their elders.@@wolf2966
Everything was fine in the beginning. Everyone was at peace with King being in charge until Asha fucked it up. Why do you think she was in the Most Wanted List?@@wolf2966
@@emmanuelcarter3551why do people always live in a democracy but will always try and find a way to agree with a dictator. The end of the movie shows why giving one person ultimate power over a country. Could you be happy knowing your missing out on your life goals because Mr. Biden didn't think you could achieve them on your own
He is the villain not because he doesn’t grant every wish, but because he takes their wishes so that they don’t remember them. He’s didn’t wan’t people to remember their wishes and just decided to hold on to them instead of letting people pursue their dreams like how Asha’s grandfather wanted to play music and make people happy. Also he literally used dark magic against his own people.
Did no one remember that Asha had said in the movie. Not an exact quote but close enough “if the wish is “too dangerous” cant you just give it back? And they can try to make it come true for themselves? And if its really so dangerous they can be stopped” and magnifico immediately shut her down, slowly gets more and more aggressive and psychotic throughout the movie and quite literally crushes peoples wishes. He is a VILLAIN
#1 He hits his wife. #2 By not giving the dreams back, they cannot remember them and therefore, he erases their dreams and hopes. Everyone should be allowed to dream of something more.
Watch the movie his reasons are selfish and giving up those wishes changes those who turn them over it doesnt make them just forget the wish but lose who they are
She doesn't want them all granted she wants those he won't grant given back it's not just a wish but ehe essence of what makes them them
@@shanesilva4257she also wants them o have the opportunity to fulfill their wishes themselves and magnificent knows if he does that then he’s insignificant and would have no reason to be in charge
It’s like he is the Villain but he doesn’t become totally evil until like right at the end of the movie
The funny thing is... Asha never wanted everyone's wish to be granted, just her Saba's because she knew his wish was good. She understood that some probably were, in fact, dangerous. She just didn't want one individual, even if it was the king, to selfishly hold everyone's wishes when they could still belong to those who wished them.
Literally the only flaw was going by lottery and not having a review board or something along those lines. Then, if it’s rejected, it’s given back. It still doesn’t justify Asha.
Every wish have consequences,
A good king knew what wish should be approved and denied what will go wrong for everyone and society.
It's a heavy burden and responsibility it's the same as to rule a country.
yea. King Magnifico is a false antagonist. The true hero.
not everyone's wishes need to be granted
what if someone wishes for something bad?
twist good guy.
Then he should focus on granting the good wishes & either return or destroy the bad ones. Why keep the bad ones?
Kathleen Kennedy WISHED Disney had a chick, make her gay and lame...Disney now suffering from wishes coming true...😮😮😮
*Asha:* You have to grant everyone’s wish!
*That one guy:* I wish for fnaf to be real!
People who think Magnifico isn’t the bad guy either didn’t pay attention or got their english/lit/etc papers handed back face down in school. Asha never wanted or asked him to grant every wish. She suggested that he RETURN THE WISHES so the people could pursue them themselves, if they choose. Remember he takes all memory of their dream and wish, so they CANT unless he returns them. Look at Asha’s friend after he gives up his wish on his 18th birthday!! Look at her grandpa!!! She wants them to decide for themselves what they do with their lives vs. the King deciding who deserves to pursue and realize their dreams. He’s a tyrant, and a narcissist who showed his true colors and threw a tantrum the MINUTE things weren’t going his way. Asha wants them to be free. How is that so hard to understand? It’s literally spelled out for the audience.
I would’ve liked if Magnifico got a redemption arc vs. being trapped in a mirror in the end, though. Him healing from his trauma would’ve been nice, and I wish Disney didn’t decide Wish was the movie to break their whole ‘healing’ theme that’s been going on 😭 At the very least I would’ve liked if he was able to willingly step down.
The wish: "I wish for a young bride."
"Okay, 20 year old bri-"
"Younger."
"18 year-"
"Younger."
"16 y-"
"YOUNGER!"
😭😭😭😭😭
"you need to fulfil everyones wish!!"
double world hunger! triple student debt!!
He wanted control, the peoples wishes weren’t just ideas, they were giving up the BEST part of themselves.
*Asha:* You need to fulfil every wish!
*Japanese kid:* Hey, so have you watched the movie “Godzilla”?
There is a theory this guy is the sorcerer trapped in the mirror of Snow White's world.
SPOILER
Well actually she's not upset ge doest fulfill everyone's wish she's upset he won't give the wishes back to the ppl he doesn't fulfill it to (they forget their wish when given and Part of themself)
If they really gave a shit Disney should do a better sequel where Asha or the star is the bad guy and someone frees Magnifico
Agree. Red herring villain.
After seeing wish myself without spoiling too much; I will give the Disney team a lot of credit from studying, incorporating, and referencing pieces of their entire catalog with plenty of cues from Snow White with the villain becoming increasingly vicious and menacing. The modern sensibilities are definitely there, (especially with the songs), yet any Disney fan that has seen most of the Disney catalog from Snow White to the contemporaries; there are references and nods to enjoy besides the plot, and the entire theme of wishes coming true with every thing to debate about subsequently.
At the end of the day, I laud wish for taking so much from Snow White with modern sensibilities after watching those earlier movies myself on VHS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that he didn't merely fail to grant wishes. He sucked their passion for whatever the wish was out of them. If they wished to be a famous musician, he sucked out their passion for music. And he used that to increase his magical power. The fact that he granted a handful of wishes while blocking people from even wanting to do what they had been passionate about is pretty bad. He wasn't killing people, but he was willing to kill people to keep the system just that way.
You are wrong.
He doesn't take the passion away from people, he just makes the forget what their wish was as a means to make them forget their worries.
We see with the case where he granted the wish of the lady who wanted to make the best cloths in Rosas. She still had her passion of making cloths but she forget that he wish was to make the best cloths.
And he doesn't use the wishes for power, he mainly take the wishes that are willingly handed to him by the people and decides which wish would benefit his people and his kingdom and which are potentially dangerous. He grants those he deems safe and helpfull and keeps those that are potentially dangerous safe under his roof (he doesn't do anything to take advantage of them).
He only started using them for power after he was corrupted by an evil book and it's clear he never used them for power before when he literally says he never knew he could get power from them
@@nuhscott9058 Ok, but what is supposed to be the danger to Rosas from that woman making the best cloths for instance? I haven't watched it in a while, but I seem to recall people being depicted as down or sad after having their knowledge of what they wanted taken from them and excited when that knowledge was finally returned to them. Did he tell them beforehand that the process would erase their memory of what their wish had been if it wasn't granted? If not, that's a pretty big omission. And why keep their wishes and memory of their wishes instead of returning them if he wasn't going to grant them? Was the woman who wished to make the best cloths in Rosas going to overthrow the government or turn violent if she remembered she wanted to make the best cloths in Rosas? The idea of danger to the State as a justification for keeping what looked like hundreds of wishes and memories of wishes hostage seems a bit overblown.
@@anonaguy3008 this is going to be a long one but stick with me
there was no danger to her wish which is why he granted it.
Well from what the movie shows, everyone is happy an living a utopia without their wishes, the only one who is shown to by sad and depressed is the friend of Asha (don't remember his name) who wish to be a knight. Given that he's the only one shown that way, it's likely that it's just a personal issue with him and not that taking wishes make people that way.
In the beginning of the movie, Asha herself explains it to new coming people how the process works. You have the option to give you wish to magnifico when you turn 18 for a chance of it being granted once every month and you forget what it was when you give magnifico. So yes they are aware of what they are getting themselves into.
And about that giving them back, their are many reasons.
The biggest and most obvious is that for those that are potentially dangerous to the kingdom and people, why give them back?
Like for example, if someone wish to gain to power to get revenge on someone because that person bullied them in their past, why if that wish back? By giving that wish the chance to be pursued (whether by granting it or giving it back to the person to pursue it themselves) you'd be risking lives and unnecessary conflicts. By not giving the wish back you essential solve the whole issue. The person no longer remembers that they wished to harm someone out of revenge and can live the rest of his/her life happily in a utopia.
Another but less obvious reason is that people are not going to be happy with it. They gave their wishes up to someone for a chance for it to be granted and then that person gives it back telling them them they won't grant it. Most people will be sad and disturbing by that and other's who are more entitled may be angry and feel wronged by magnifico (which could lead to bad things happening) and most people in Rosas are pretty entitled.
I think this comment is long enough to I'll finish it in another reply
@@anonaguy3008 and about the wishes, you can't just put all the blame on magnifico for all of this.
The people also share blame here. They had their whole lives to make their wishes come true themselves yet they all willingly hand they wishes to magnifico without a second thought. Hey ashas's grandpa's wish not being granted is the whole reason Asha started conflict in the first place and he's 100 years old. King magnifico is at best in his 50's and his obviously didn't build rosas since he was born, so Asha's grandpa had like 70+ years to pursue his own wish and look where he's at.
The movie also tries to push thr arguments around the rights and wrongs of all this is Asha' favor is pretending the concept of a bad wish doesn't exist (which is very unrealistic and is pretty much ignoreing nuances).
Again, the women's wish was not vague and not dangerous thus it was granted. The wish that was shown to get denied because of potential danger is asha's grandpa's wish, which is to inspire the next generation. Sounds harmless on the surface, magnifico even says so himself but you have to look deeming and think past the surface. Like magnifico says, the wish is too vague, there's no clue as to what he'll inspire them to do. Magnifico doesn't know Asha's grandpa and what he means by inspire, and even if her grandpa is the kindest person every, he might still inspire wrong people and get the wrong message across.
So yes as said is it is, Asha's grandpa's wish is too vague and brings potential dangers which magnifico is not willing to test and given magnifico's past and paranoia from having his home and family destroy by bad people, you can understand where he's coming from.
At the end of the day, magnifico's methods are questionable I'll admit that (nothing is flawless) but their are done with kindness in mind and have worked for decades
@@nuhscott9058 I get it, but I mean (short of keeping the wish of an aspiring violent revolutionary or serial killer or murderer or other felon in training) keeping the wishes feels more like thought control - not unlike an Orwellian thoughtcrime being punished by having the thought sucked out of their head and put in a de facto jail. Basically, Oceania would have happily hired Magnifico to work in their thoughtcrime division. And I don't think anyone has ever described Orwell's Oceania as anything but evil.
I heard someone do a review, and they said this about king magnifico “he’s not a villain, just a man in power”
He wasn't the villain because he tried to be a good king and when you think about it he might as well never had to grant any of the wishes but they were spoiled and greedy.
That aged well🤷♀️
Did it? Haven't seen the movie.
@@felixorozco4055 Yes he's the villain 💀
@@youtubebobguy is he the villain because the movie said so? Or was he actually in the right? Like granting everyone wish 100% will cause greed and chaos or does everything just magically work out?? Also did they explain how the wishing magic work?
But he also does sort of try to tie up the whole town and threaten a ton of people- soooo@@Somezay
He gave himself up to the dark magic, i think it shows anyone can corrupt, even a hero. but there were few signs that he's already shady af.
Actually Asha asked him to return the wishes he didn’t want to fulfill so that the people can make their dreams come true. I admit he wasn’t the villain at the beginning but when he realised that some sort of magic was a threat to his power he just went crazy and tried to keep his power which made him use dark magic. And of course he is unhappy that his people question him and his decision
Tbh Asha was right if you're not gonna grant just return them they'll make it come true themselves
Similar to how Tiana was told in "Princess and the Frog": People can wish on stars as hard as they can, but hard work can produce the greatest results...which caused Tiana to start working herself to exhaustion to get enough money to fulfill hers and her father's dream of having their own restaurant.
@@eternasapphiremoon81Because of what you said here, that is why I consider the Princess and the Frog to be superior compared to this new movie. Then again, I guess any of the old, classic Disney films are definitely superior to this one as well.
@@maxdejong5259 So you prefer to have damsels in distress with charming princes to come and save the day? this is 2023, not the 1600's. Times have changed, and we need to move with the times. Disney has.
@@eternasapphiremoon81 Uh, I don’t think that should be too common, but is it really a bad thing though?
@@maxdejong5259 when you have little girls nowadays watching these movies, would you rather they watch women/young women become someone waiting to be rescued? Or do you want them to see someone who's actually capable of saving themselves/accomplishing their own dreams? What sort of message you want these girls to take from this?
If the magnifico is not the villain... Then who is the villain?!
No one because he is obviously the Villain (I watched the movie btw)
The queen
The book
The CHATGPT that wrote the script.
The scriptwriter. Magnifico's arc was lacking. He didnt deserve the ending either.
But he gives them false hope he will
grant their wishes. Taking people’s wishes under false pretenses and then refusing to give them back them to allow them to pursue on their own is wrong. He is for sure the villain . Trying to save people from themselves for your own idealism is also wrong.
I trust they know how to count, if they are thousands and the king concedes a wish every month is clear someone never will get fullfilled, still they take the risk as if tbey were playing lotttery and you know that ypu can't ask for a refound just because your ticket didn't won the big prize.
@@xCoatlicuex that’s a good analysis.
I mean isn't that the whole point of them forgetting the wishes.
If you don't remember your wish...how can you feel its unfulfilled.
@@xCoatlicuex Obviously they can count. But the characters also seemed different after submitting their wishes, according to their friends. They now lose a huge part of themselves that they had once. If they give their wishes under a false hope, then they're giving them to the king under a false pretense, despite the number of wishes. Cause for the king, it's not about actually ever getting their wish granted - it's only based on what the king wants, and he never tells his kingdom that.
Wishs are Life Goals, a part of iur Soul. Even If His intentions were good in the beginning. He robbs the wishes to force a soulless Peace. As the two new people GIVE their wishes, you See clearly how much pain in their faces Show and Just the Cheers from everyone Else are distracting them.😢
It’s a world where if you give him your wish it ceases to exist in your mind that’s what makes it scummy for him to hoard peoples wishes when he never intends to grant them.
She doesn’t want him to reply “yes all”, she wants him to give back the wishes he never intends to grant.
I would say this would be better if it wasn’t a Disney movie, and instead a Netflix original, let the movie get as dark as possible, add death, not just “ king is bad he doesn’t grant every wish I want my wish” bla bla bla king most likely won’t explain why only he can grant wishes and the possibly very deadly consequences of what happens, with her being able to grant wishes now, and starts to realize the implications of some wishes, she then finds the king as a very old man with his kingdom empty he dies and is her secret father or something and now she’s cursed.
I don't necessarily think darker equals better. Just needs more depth.
@@felixorozco4055 I know what you mean but I’m just tired of people no longer really killing off character to prove any type of point of actions have consequences
Asha wasn’t upset about him not granting every wish, she was upset because she found out not every wish would be granted, and that Magnifico wouldn’t give those wishes back to the people and instead deciding to keep them locked away in the tower forever. It wasn’t about granting the wishes as much as it was letting the people REMEMBER those wishes in the first place. Letting them make their own dreams come true. Once a person gave Magnifico their wish they would completely forget about it. This is what Asha was fighting for, for them to remember their wishes, hopes, things they thought they could only dream for that was taken away from them when they gave Mignifico their wish.
Honestly which movie did all of you see? Asha called Magnifico out for HOARDING all the wishes of the people of Rosas and MAKING the people FORGET them just for gaining power. She agrees with him that it is not good to fulfill every wish especially dangerous ones. But she says rightfully so that wishes which are good but can't be fulfilled by him because of whatever reason should be given back to the people who gave it to him and let them try to fulfill their wish on their own. Asha wants the people more independent and not to be told what to think
your comment should be pinned!
He doesn't do whatever he's doing for power though. Litterally towards the end of the movie, after having been corrupted by the book, THAT's when Magnifico learns what power hides in the wishes, he says so himself! What people seem to forget is that Magnifico's main motivation was to PROTECT wishes so that people don't have to feel the crushing feeling of having your dreams die in front of you. That's why he doesn't give them back. Then, sure, it went to his head, he's a man in power, but still! He never said he would grant all wishes, he said he would protect them.
The only dystopian thing in this movie is that there is just one overseer of the wishes instead of a council.
For me Magnifico is the villain. His afraid bring him to became more evil, people weren't happy they were calm because they think their dream will be fulfilled.
Sasha improved the situation, bad dreams simply do not come true while the good dreams yes.
People weren't happy under Magnifico in a strict sense.
Magnifico was already narcissist even before asha wished on a star. The protection he gives to people is because of his own narcissism. That's a villain's characteristic.
The point is you should not give you our wish. You have the ability and responsibility to make your wish come true. Most wishes can’t be granted but it is the pursuit of something transcendent that makes our life here special.
Magnifico protects the wishes as a trauma response. It’s the negative aspect of the mother archetype. So he can be doing it for a good reason and to be kind. But it is still wrong.
Did you watch at the premiere?
The real villain in here is Disney.
Magnifico was like a cult member
Media literacy is dead if you think Asha ruined everything
He literally didnt want anyone else to have control over their wishes it would've been okay if they had remembered them or still been happy but they changed when thet gave up their wishes magnifico literally explained that people's wishes are the best part of them
People are missing the point, it is not about fulfilling everyone's wish, it is about the King taking away their dreams and goals because he deems them as too risky. Thats not fair, everyone right now was a chance to dream and chase their goal, the people there cannot even work for it.
Magnifico was a grey character which I loved! He loved his people but he loved them too much and kept them shackled to his power. Which is shown in the last part of the movie. His trauma was his downfall and kept his thoughts closed minded from anyone who questioned his ideals.
The only thing I wished at the end was that he realized what he was doing was wrong. But I loved the movie overall.
KING MAGNIFICO YOU'RE FIRED!
Almost made a comment about how you clearly didn't watch the movie, but then i realized this was about the trailer
This movie went over a lot of people's heads, it seems.
Yes it really did. I blame the hate train it had it definitely blinded people.
@@almostnw155”watch out world,here I are”