Comedians: Our New Philosophers?

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    Comedians, philosophers, or … both?!
    It’s common today to hear comedians compared to philosophers, especially as many prominent stand-up comedians seem more focused on social and political commentary. But is it reasonable to compare your favorite joke to a philosophical idea? Or are we fundamentally misunderstanding the relationship between comedy and philosophy? Let’s find out in this video: Are Comedians the New Philosophers?
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  • @SpudMackenzie
    @SpudMackenzie Год назад +1112

    I think the funniest part of the bible has to be that time a bunch of kids made fun of Elisha for being bald and he summoned two bears that killed forty-two of them.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +263

      I wish I would have thought to do this when I got made fun of for my receding hairline in college.

    • @JCQ205
      @JCQ205 Год назад +58

      @@WisecrackEDU I think it would be easier to have a bear summoning two bald dudes.

    • @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield
      @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield Год назад +9

      @@WisecrackEDU you don't need that on your conscience man... yes, you're joking, but... for just a moment... imagine...
      The closest I'm going to think of is that Christmas Robot Chicken Sketch where and elf says: "You ever see a Yeti when a balloon of c*ke bursts in his stomach in the middle of a flight?..... bad scene man...."

    • @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield
      @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/ztkOnt4OyIg/видео.htmlsi=csXz4rBhp_KgAoCf

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi Год назад +14

      If millennials wrote the bible, body shaming would be a sin. This is just God's foresight.

  • @amanul_2474
    @amanul_2474 Год назад +508

    "I hear often that 'comedians are the modern day philosopher', which makes me feel really sad for the actual modern day philosophers!" - Norm Macdonald RIP

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +70

      RIP to the realest.

    • @Adan11961
      @Adan11961 Год назад +12

      Such a philosophical thing to say…

    • @Dilmahkana
      @Dilmahkana Год назад +30

      His autobiography is full of philosophical thoughts.
      Such as "There is a difference between what a thing is and what it appears to be. Once I learned this truth, I began to see examples of it everywhere...I learned it took a powerful imagination to see something for what it really is."
      He describes a painting, and the scene it depicts...but it's only paint. He tries harder just to see the paint, but his eyes deceive him more the harder he looks. Or his cat that was once happy on his lap, but then 'out in the world' would dangerously and callously to torture a mouse for fun.

    • @thorin2330
      @thorin2330 Год назад +4

      god i miss him so much

    • @fredwelf8650
      @fredwelf8650 10 месяцев назад

      Watch “The Comedians” 1967 film starring Richard Burton

  • @okram2k
    @okram2k Год назад +499

    I think John Stewart put it the best that modern comedy isn't philosophy, it's the role of court jester. To point out problems with our nation through humor in a way that is entertaining and accessible while shining light on matters a lot of us ignore over don't pay attention to.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi Год назад +44

      People think jesters were just clowns, but they had the sole privilege of criticizing and insulting the nobility to their faces without getting jailed. A pretty important role, especially when the king is often surrounded by yes-men.

    • @mr.pavone9719
      @mr.pavone9719 Год назад +3

      He's definitely not the first to do it though. People listen to Tom Lehrer's song about the elements and think he's a nerd who plays piano. Lehrer had a long career as a political comedian who played piano, just like
      Mark Russel who did the same thing through the 70s and 90s.
      Both comedians had a keen wit and managed to package their satire in song. Lehrer felt it was time for him to move on when he started receiving 'clapter' from the crowd.
      I think the time has come for comedians to take a break from direct political commentary as well as the news.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi Год назад +8

      @@mr.pavone9719
      I don't think so, politics are nuts right now, if anything we need more comedians pulling it apart, not less. I think most people that would say this simply don't like that comedians are tearing into their political ideology.

    • @Sebastian.Medina
      @Sebastian.Medina Год назад +6

      ​@@Lilliathiif a comedian is receiving clapter they're not tearing into anything tho, that's the point.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi Год назад +3

      @@Sebastian.Medina
      They are, they're just not being funny enough while doing it. Either way: if.

  • @dr_volberg
    @dr_volberg Год назад +179

    I teach a philosophy class to about 150 first year students every fall. When I go in front of them and pick up the mic, I always imagine myself to be a stand-up comedian doing a set.

    • @Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper
      @Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper Год назад +3

      I teach anatomy and physiology and the Italian new jersey teens challenge me to mechanics

    • @Ironborn4
      @Ironborn4 Год назад +6

      That's funny because I am a stand up comedian and every time I pick up the mic, I imagine myself being a philosophy teacher giving a lecture

    • @raidenwave4219
      @raidenwave4219 Год назад +2

      it's funny because in Mel Brooks' History of the World, there is a stand-up philosopher.

    • @MRblazedBEANS
      @MRblazedBEANS Год назад +1

      Thank you for being our wall between us and woke culture. Your a hero and one of the 1000

    • @authenticallysuperficial9874
      @authenticallysuperficial9874 Год назад

      ​@@MRblazedBEANS ..what

  • @BigWolf130
    @BigWolf130 Год назад +376

    I think most comedians that say they are philosophers are trying to imitate George Carlin.

    • @benkylo8015
      @benkylo8015 Год назад +18

      This 100%

    • @BaldAndCurious
      @BaldAndCurious Год назад +5

      thanks for saying what i was thinking

    • @mr.pavone9719
      @mr.pavone9719 Год назад +26

      They certainly invoke his name a lot but not without reason. Carlin started really as a clown and made himself out to be nothing more. He got into the 60s and 70s and really got into his groove regarding language, how it changes and how it can be twisted to change public opinion. Once he got into the 80s and 90s, he turned into an angry, cynical old man and he really shed the comedian identity. He was more about directly challenging and calling out the wealthy elites and the media for their bullshit.
      I really wonder if the comedians of today, in comparing themselves to Carlin, ever listen to his hippy-dippy stupid stuff.

    • @cooperhough7583
      @cooperhough7583 Год назад +21

      I find that a lot of the imitators don't punch up though, they gripe about trans people and cancel culture instead of spelling out how ridiculous our material conditions are. Plus George was actually funny.

    • @treecat125
      @treecat125 Год назад +14

      I think any comedian who says they are a philosopher isn't one. It's pretty high-minded and lacking in self-awareness to call yourself such a thing unless you literally study philosophy.

  • @wtftobby
    @wtftobby Год назад +166

    The best part of the bible is when Job spends 30 pages arguing with everyone about god and then god appears and goes "You don't know me! You don't know my life!" And Job goes "okay" and it's over

    • @FreaqProduction
      @FreaqProduction Год назад +5

      Wow, I never saw it from that perspective. And it's actually pretty spot on 😅

    • @Motosapien46
      @Motosapien46 Год назад +6

      I think you missed the part in Job 42:7 where God points out that "Job said of me what is right"

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Год назад +4

      I like how Job had to stand firm, because the point of the book of Job was that you can’t make assumptions about anyone’s life (like you can never assume what God is). It certainly makes God more unknowable, but at the price of him being weirdly cruel to Job for some reason.

    • @marcusmenalucas7224
      @marcusmenalucas7224 Год назад

      GOD Did Heckle JOB.
      Had Job Thinking He DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO HIS JOB!

  • @Totoofwarful
    @Totoofwarful Год назад +336

    “Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company.”
    - René Descartes

    • @promptcraft
      @promptcraft Год назад +17

      e.g groups like stormfront planting themselves in /pol/

    • @melikaibun
      @melikaibun Год назад

      Yup. Pretty much every degenerate who’s just “trolling”

    • @zerologic7912
      @zerologic7912 Год назад +17

      Can't believe that Descartes of all people predicted the alt right pipeline

    • @Socrates526
      @Socrates526 Год назад +1

      Can't believe that Descartes of all people predicted modern progressivism

    • @messo3843
      @messo3843 Год назад +6

      ​@@trapadvisorIt isn't, this quote comes from 4chan. It doesn't even sound like something Descartes would say.

  • @1101-f6z
    @1101-f6z Год назад +33

    i remember reading about some French jester that insulted the Queen. Apparently, she was so mad the King sentenced him to death but first asked the jester how he would like to be killed, simply replied, "by old age." The king agreed and didn't kill him however was banished from their land.

  • @lewis9159
    @lewis9159 Год назад +178

    George Carlin is one of the few comics who could fit genuine insight into his routines. Most comedians can't lay a glove on him in that area.

    • @Combaticus
      @Combaticus Год назад +8

      I'd put Bill Hicks in that same club.

    • @blaster915
      @blaster915 Год назад +2

      Amen 🎉

    • @AnitaFixx77
      @AnitaFixx77 Год назад

      George Carlin was the best 🎉

  • @Ehh.....
    @Ehh..... Год назад +133

    Seeing Stav knock Bert off his high horse was so damn cathartic.

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum Год назад +1

      It's so crazy that people can develop an ego even over being a fat alcoholic who tells poop jokes for a living

    • @brandongers
      @brandongers Год назад +18

      Bert has been riding high off his one joke for years now. He’s not funny.

    • @the1anonlyace221
      @the1anonlyace221 Год назад +25

      Stavvy rules, he made the rounds of the Rogan boys club podcasts and gave each of them the most pushback they’ve gotten in years. And he’s funny as hell

    • @tomifost
      @tomifost Год назад +8

      @@brandongers He lucked out somehow by staying relevant for taking his shirt off and being that guy thats too drunk at a party

    • @MissBlueEyeliner
      @MissBlueEyeliner Год назад +3

      @@tomifost I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s only his business acumen and his friendship with YMH that keep him going.
      And a never ending supply of college students probably doesn’t hurt.

  • @andythedishwasher1117
    @andythedishwasher1117 Год назад +45

    Philosophers are dope because they're actually funnier than most comedians, but you have to work way harder to get their jokes. It's like hyper underground comedy that gets sponsored academically because it hides the punchlines well enough to look like they're supporting the right thing in the moment. It's an art form that goes all the way back to Maimonides. A guy named Leo Strauss wrote an excellent book called Persecution and the Art Of Writing back in the 50s that compared a number of medieval philosophers' methods for concealing esoteric beliefs or doctrines within their texts. Those tactics have evolved as much as science has since medieval times, so I like to assume every philosopher is writing between the lines to juke some authority somewhere. Wink wink.

    • @zljmbo
      @zljmbo Год назад

      Ya Žižek is pretty funny

  • @kmanley29687
    @kmanley29687 Год назад +169

    The funniest part of The Bible is when kids mock Elisha for being bald, so he sends two bears to kill forty-two children.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +35

      I need to get some bears.

    • @Socrates526
      @Socrates526 Год назад +4

      So we're just copy pasting comments now?

    • @kmanley29687
      @kmanley29687 Год назад +3

      @Socrates526 Nope. I did see at least one other person posted the same thing around the same time I did, but I've been familiar with the story for years. No need to be a dick about multiple people thinking of the same story.

  • @lanedillon6365
    @lanedillon6365 Год назад +90

    One man I know that is very philosophical is George Carlin he was a gallows humor comedian but spoke it like a philosopher

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +25

      He’s great. And definitely one of the most philosophical comedians.

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 Год назад +7

      A modern day Diogenes he was

    • @KBird204
      @KBird204 Год назад +2

      RIP to the 🐐

    • @arcturionblade1077
      @arcturionblade1077 Год назад +3

      Only one of a handful who really comes close, IMHO.

    • @hairyneil
      @hairyneil Год назад +2

      Im trying to think who else fits into that catagory, (not one the same level, sure), so far Marc Maron and Hannah Gadsby seem the most likely

  • @megamagicmonkey
    @megamagicmonkey Год назад +29

    I find Jonah to be the funniest. Guy is unapologetically a curmudgeon through and through. “Why did you flee when I said to give them my warning? In telling them they could be saved!” “Yeah. Exactly. I hate those jerks, so if I didn’t tell them they’d all die!”

    • @Monkehrawrrr
      @Monkehrawrrr Год назад +1

      Iunno this wisecrack guys name either

    • @sxeptomaniac
      @sxeptomaniac Год назад +2

      You forgot to add where he throws a massive tantrum and says he wants to die because the plant shading him withered up.

  • @Ford_prefect_42
    @Ford_prefect_42 Год назад +78

    Anyone else cheer when the sponsor is better help and you see the light fade from Michaels eyes? You got this buddy! Take their money and keep promoting therapy! We all know they're shit. But you're great, wisecrack guy

    • @wargex
      @wargex Год назад +3

      Better Help screenshot your comment and sold it to Facebook.

  • @trippyfawx
    @trippyfawx Год назад +3

    I think the funniest part in the bible is simply how Jesus predicted Peter's lie, the irony in that the whole church is based off a lie that Jesus predicted is funny to me

  • @Xsetsu
    @Xsetsu Год назад +12

    Comedians aren't philosophers, but I do believe Carlin was the closest we will ever see to a crossover. The man was so at the forefront of stand up comedy and did it for so long that his later routines became more philosophy than comedy. Some older comics now seem to be trying to replicate what he did with varying success. I have yet to to see many others achieve this.
    George Carlin's later stuff is still relevant today and still holds up. The man was so far ahead of his time instead of being a product of his time. He will remain the goat because of his bit philosophy and relevancy.

  • @booker229
    @booker229 Год назад +14

    Funniest part of the bible: 2 Kings 2:23-24
    Elisha is out walking when a group of young boys start roasting him for being bald, saying "go up you baldhead; go up you baldhead". Elisha turned around and cursed them in the name of the lord. "Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number". (direct quote. thats right, fourty two)

  • @tarynfransen1594
    @tarynfransen1594 Год назад +16

    I think comedy and philosophy will forever have a Venn diagram, and I hope comedy does inspire people’s morals and actions, so it’s not quite fair to say people just go back to their regular lives. It all inspires thinking over time.

  • @josemiguelgonzalezwachter2269
    @josemiguelgonzalezwachter2269 Год назад +2

    I mean Diogenes would piss on people,
    take a sh*t while actively having a conversation with you,
    beg a statue for food,
    shine a lantern into people's faces during the day...
    And then there was that HILARIOUS incident with the PLUCKED CHICKEN 😂 Philosophers have always been comedians!

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 Год назад +24

    My top 3 funniest parts of the bible
    1, the prophet elighah comands god to sick bears on some kids who made fun of his bald spot
    2, jesus comes upon a tree he asks the tree to bear fruit but it doesnt respond (its a tree what was he expecting) and jesus curses the tree to rot
    3, king saul says david can marry his daughter if he brings in the foreskins of 100 philitseines he killed... He came back with 200

    • @washipuppy
      @washipuppy Год назад +3

      David always going above and beyond to get what he wants.

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  • @aedwa021
    @aedwa021 Год назад +2

    Philosophers can help you think more deeply and critically about the world around you, comedians can help you enjoy that process

  • @ThePupYT
    @ThePupYT Год назад +6

    1:55
    Aren't you the freaking horse from Horsing Around 😂

  • @rbruch98
    @rbruch98 Год назад +2

    I think Philosophy *can* be in all media, not just Comedy. It can be seen in horror and revenge movies, in music.
    So in my view, Philosophy itself becomes the tree in the forest; In other words, if the philosophical discourse isn't heard by the masses, does it even have the chance of having any meaningful impact?

  • @dudemonn
    @dudemonn Год назад +8

    I really enjoyed this. I tried writing a paper about comedy for my philosophy class back in the day. You literally stated my thesis like 3 times!

  • @BaldingClamydia
    @BaldingClamydia 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think the funniest part of the bible was when the donkey wouldn't move bc there was an angel in the road and the guy beats him, until the donkey's like "wtf my guy, you're an ass." ...and I think the guy turns into an ass! That might be a different story, but both things definitely happen

  • @xavierxrc
    @xavierxrc Год назад +60

    I love this channel. This wisecrack guy knows his stuff

    • @GO-sz1nv
      @GO-sz1nv Год назад +2

      Does he have a name?

    • @Hel1mutt
      @Hel1mutt Год назад

      Yeah, first name Wisecrack last name Guy@@GO-sz1nv

    • @alexkirrmann8534
      @alexkirrmann8534 Год назад

      You mean in the useless skill of philosophy. He is just talking into the void. Lol nothing was accomplished here. He thinks philosophy is a thing you can study and have answers, when its literally conjecture. Its not a science.

    • @Davouc234
      @Davouc234 Год назад +1

      @@alexkirrmann8534 he’s just trying to promote discussion and alternative perspectives. I am far from agreeing with everything he says but I am glad to have a platform like this to expose myself to different philosophers

  • @KelsaRavenlock
    @KelsaRavenlock Год назад +5

    In History of the World: Part One, Comicus describes himself as a stand up philosopher while attempting to get unemployment.
    Of course the clerk then says "Ah, so your a bullshit artist" so there is that.

  • @jackcrassus168
    @jackcrassus168 Год назад +3

    Norm MacDonald “they call comedians modern day philosophers but that’s disrespectful to actual modern day philosophers. Oh good let’s see what the night club comic thinks”

  • @hirosoli
    @hirosoli Год назад +2

    If anyone ever asks 'what would Jesus do?' Remember that flipping tables and whipping people could be an answer.

  • @Astrosynthesist
    @Astrosynthesist Год назад +4

    I think the comedian that walked the line the closest for me was late (like, late in his career, though he is also dead now) George Carlin. I absolutely love how he mostly stopped writing gag punchlines and just started telling how he sees absurdity the world. Like he knew he had a platform and wanted to better people before he died. And he was bang on with a couple of his points. I found the exaggeration to extremes to prove a point about today's grey areas to be very thought provoking, while the absurdity was still hilarious. It's certainly not classical-philosophy-level philosophy by any means but as you mentioned it got me to start questioning the world and picking up new ideas and books and that's valuable to me. And his off-stage interviews, to me, showed him to be quite thoughtful and insightful

  • @alexpazaitis
    @alexpazaitis Год назад +2

    There's lots of room for philosophy in comedy that has grown ever bigger the more absurd the world becomes. What's less embraced is the room of comedy in philosophy, not merely as a subject of intellectual inquiry but as a form of communication and meaning. As a researcher and lecturer on theory of value I have come to understand how much more I am able to engage students or audiences with the core of my study through witty little remarks on contemporary topics or just silly memes in my slides. And I very often find myself using techniques inspired by my favorite comedians in setting up a story, creating contradiction and ambiguity, and often sheer silliness and madness (The Monty Python have been masters of the art). Laughter serves a fundamental co-evolutionary function in human societies through which genuine relationships emerge. Laughter makes us open up, allows us to become vulnerable - which is itself a great leap of faith. It bridges the artificial gap between the "teacher" and the "student"; the "expert" and the "learner" and allows us to understand how we are all in this together and that is where the learning happens. That's at least my two pence from what I've empirically found to work for me in my practice but I'm sure smarter people have written about this, so let me know if you know any sources :)

  • @MP4_mafia
    @MP4_mafia Год назад +6

    I was not expecting to see the zipline sketch in a video about philosophy and comedy. Tim Robinson is legendary.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      If only we could’ve included Mike from Adventure 365

  • @RodrigoBarbosaBR
    @RodrigoBarbosaBR Год назад +13

    Wisecrack shows what the best of youtube is.
    And yes, I support on patreon. And so should everyone who can.

    • @alexkirrmann8534
      @alexkirrmann8534 Год назад

      How? Trash channel. He isn't half as smart as he would like to think he was.

  • @DenisRicardo
    @DenisRicardo Год назад +8

    The funniest part of the Bible is Song of Songs “Your breasts are like fawns”
    I’m still not sure what that means.

  • @yogikarl
    @yogikarl 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Buddha , while walking up-and-down the middle ganges valley , at some point , smiled, _ so _ one of his disciples asked him : Why did you smile, sir? And he replied : he remembered a
    Very contrast Laden situation , which happened at that place in the past .
    I think , comedy comes from contrasting players in situations .

  • @Chudchanning
    @Chudchanning Год назад +3

    Comedy can be philosophy without the smarmy intellectualism.
    Only a great few comics broke that threshold into philosopher territory though, and almost all of them are dead with the exception of Doug Stanhope

  • @steven2183
    @steven2183 Год назад +16

    "If you're going to tell people the truth, you had better make them laugh or they will kill you." - Oscar Wilde

  • @johnvincentcomedy
    @johnvincentcomedy Год назад +8

    Thanks for putting Norm on the thumbnail ❤

  • @juanconstenla1171
    @juanconstenla1171 Год назад +1

    My attention span is so shortened by social media that now I don't read, I don't remember the last time I read a philosophy book

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +16

    Look forward to another awesome year with you guys! Love wisecrack❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @vitoria.no.c
    @vitoria.no.c Год назад +1

    8:00 my favorite cross over. Michael has inspired me to dive deeper into philosophy and theory as someone trained in graphic design. Thank you for that! Looking forward to more Wisecrack in 2024

  • @BM5556
    @BM5556 Год назад +3

    from time to time, you Wisecrack sometimes publish a video that I read the title of and I instantly go like: YHEA RIGHT?! Or: I KNOW RIGHT?! I love this

  • @ryle4h
    @ryle4h Год назад +1

    I just downloaded the Libby (library) app recently, and, holy sh!t, being able to pause the video to go download the book whenever Wisecrack Guy cites one is a freaking superpower.

  • @matthewfeeg1885
    @matthewfeeg1885 Год назад +8

    It seems that most comedy is not philosophy but sometimes certain comics approach that status. Good point re: the court jester and the kind of laughter catharsis they bring forth.

  • @rayediance
    @rayediance Год назад +1

    The funniest part of the Bible to me is when Jesus walks into a flea market and just starts flipping tables and fucking shit up.

  • @ubik5453
    @ubik5453 Год назад +5

    Hey, it's the wisecrack guy!

  • @RonaldBradycptgmpy
    @RonaldBradycptgmpy Год назад +2

    So, a few things. One is a thank you, you brought me back to wisecrack, my dude, and the discourse on the channel has been more consistently top-notch.
    The second thing is that I had a thought you knew the end of the video when you were talking about nurturing apathy, as opposed to the impetus for change: I guess we could summarize that as the difference between a comedian and their take on an issue is a philosopher of sorts is that the philosopher tries to guide the discourse around the topic being discussed to fertile ground, one capable of producing change, whereas the comedian just lets (by and large) the discourse around the topic act as solid ground for a punchline. Without necessarily considering whether or not, this might turn the audience apathetic as opposed to nurturing and examination of the topic for further discussion, or to bring about any positive end, aside from the laughter.
    Third, thinking about your videos from an accessibility point of view, would it be too much strain on workflow to use the video scripts as the basis for the subtitles rather than trusting Google speech recognition transcription?

  • @godhandstan3908
    @godhandstan3908 Год назад +5

    Comedy and philosophy have always sort of gone hand-in-hand, right? Humor can help make deep thoughts more digestible, especially if it's a heavy and relatable topic like human nature.

  • @DamienWalter
    @DamienWalter Год назад +1

    If you want really shite philosophy reduced to a laugh line...even then no.

  • @thefuturist8864
    @thefuturist8864 Год назад +5

    Part of the problem is that philosophy doesn't lend itself to popular, everyday language. I speak as someone who has studied and taught philosophy for over 20 years, and by far the biggest challenge is to find a way to present philosophy both accurately and in a way that doesn't make it sound needlessly pedantic or specialised. The *best* way, without any doubt, to communicate unusual or difficult ideas is by using humour, so I'm not at all surprised that comedians are the ones being looked to as communicators of ideas. American stand-up has been this way for a long time, perhaps because American society is still interested in the question of what it is to live a good life, but the *real* problem is still there: someone like Gervais or Chappelle has to not only be philosophical, but actually *do* philosophy via their comedy (though Gervais has a degree in philosophy, so perhaps he has the advantage).

    • @younghan3573
      @younghan3573 Год назад

      Steve Martin has a philosophy degree. Dan Akroid studied abnormal psychology and wanted to be a FBI agent.

  • @SLEEPY1701
    @SLEEPY1701 Год назад +1

    Why is this the smartest Chanel on RUclips that not enough people talk about

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      We won’t say we’re the smartest but we would love it if more people talked about the channel.

  • @faye_lavaro
    @faye_lavaro Год назад +7

    "While the jester is invited back to perform the same function at the next royal event, Socrates is invited to his trial and sentenced to death."
    This line right here pretty much summarized the entire thing for me. It stuck with me.

  • @adimus25801
    @adimus25801 Год назад +2

    The funniest part of the Bible is where mankind is held accountable for eating the fruit Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil literally before they had the capacity to know right from wrong and are sequently punished for all time for it.

  • @BadassRaiden
    @BadassRaiden Год назад +130

    Jerry Seinfeld is neither a philosopher nor a comedian. Impressions of him are monumentally funnier than his own comedy.

    • @Nathanatos22
      @Nathanatos22 Год назад +12

      I’ve never laughed at any of Seinfeld’s jokes, but hearing the insinuation that he’s a philosopher made me guffaw

    • @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield
      @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield Год назад +3

      "Whats the deal with": him ever being considered funny anything approaching philosophical? He's barely relatable imo.
      That there exists an ever continuing online CGI AI driven version of his show, says everything. It's not a love letter to his talent and creativity. It's a golem brought to life from bitterness to endlessly mock the source material without putting forth continued effort, which is truly a perfect parallel parody to the show and his career in general. I don't understand how he ever became "famous" and I think he's lucky Michael Richards never truly "snapped" on him because I think he may be the only person that truly sees this to it's fullest extent and it must be MADDENING.😢

    • @pancakemogul
      @pancakemogul Год назад +8

      It's very telling that of the two creators of Seinfeld, one went on to make 12 amazing seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm and the other made an extremely average bee movie and then nothing ever again.

    • @leon3589
      @leon3589 Год назад +4

      Not to diminish Seinfeld’s achievements but if people in 50 years look back on him and think has a philosopher, the way we look back and think of Kant or Schopenhauer, or Sartre or Nietzsche, that would be reflective of a true change in the meaning of the word

    • @jimmysnowmanthe7003
      @jimmysnowmanthe7003 Год назад

      @@pancakemogul damn. Coffee with something..., also completely detached.

  • @120Coyote
    @120Coyote Год назад +1

    Hey. Michael Octavio Burns. Disembodied voice of Producer Henry. All the wisecrack folks behind the scenes. We appreciate you. We love you. Keep it up!

  • @jasondumb5706
    @jasondumb5706 Год назад +3

    "Stand up philosopher" Mel Brooks should get some credit here

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      We messed up by missing that reference

  • @benjaminkothe7545
    @benjaminkothe7545 Год назад +1

    Hi...Michael Burns👋👋👋
    I really appreciate your mind and sense of humor ...as well as the wisecrack vids

  • @umbomb
    @umbomb Год назад +3

    There's some overlap, but comedy and philosophy are two different things. Thanks for all your good work (and for the other stuff.) (JK)

  • @Leopoldshark
    @Leopoldshark Год назад +2

    Mel Brooks: A stand-up philosopher
    Bea Arthur: Oh, a bullshit artist

  • @RedSpicyKiwi
    @RedSpicyKiwi Год назад +3

    This channel's insight, sources and genuine humor are top tier! Glad to have found wisecrack when i did.

  • @glapanowski
    @glapanowski Год назад +2

    Carlin was punching up, Chappelle is punching down - they are not the same.

  • @nicolebogda1482
    @nicolebogda1482 Год назад +3

    There was a vid on Carlinism, he was one of a kind and paved the way for intelligent thinking comedy. I have no doubt he falls into this category, but I think it’s rare and if there happens to be anyone else, it is extremely rare

  • @Visionary1002
    @Visionary1002 Год назад +2

    I've always loved this quote in the overlap of these two worlds:
    "A witticism is an epigram on the death of a feeling" - Nietzsche

  • @willstrickland9952
    @willstrickland9952 Год назад +55

    Was always a huge Dave Chappelle but his new comedy made me realize the difference between comedy for laughs and comedy for claps.

    • @willywonka7812
      @willywonka7812 Год назад +13

      For barking seals, in his case

    • @pendejo6466
      @pendejo6466 Год назад

      @@willywonka7812 Yeah, the complaining "seals."

  • @jaydearien8624
    @jaydearien8624 Год назад +1

    I like the idea of laughter as pure ideology. Laughter (along with tears, yawning, and maybe trembling) are the pure physiological memetic reactions humans have. They also have the properties of being "well-marked" (as memes). You're laughing or you're not. Hence, making people laugh can be a pretty exact and productive exercise in working within ideology. If comedians get a laugh from it, then it's a thing, memetically (and ideologically) speaking.

  • @heyelliew
    @heyelliew Год назад +15

    Comedians main job during the day is to think and make observations, and at night they tell us about what they have thought and observed. Might not be 100% philosophical… but it’s philosophical-ish.

  • @tarynfransen1594
    @tarynfransen1594 Год назад +1

    Comedians and philosophers remind me of a tactic we use in advertising; some ads are more ‘top of funnel’ and others ‘bottom of funnel’. Top being more high level brand awareness in the back of your mind (billboards, commercials), and bottom of funnel something more targeted resulting in clicks (digital or social ads). Comedians and philosophers are on the same ideology preaching kind of team, some are just higher level and more removed than a l definitive/serious form of an idea, such as philosophers’ work. Different roles but both important in forming an ideology.

  • @Tacom4ster
    @Tacom4ster Год назад +3

    Not anymore, mostly just rich old men yelling at Trans

  • @fermatdad
    @fermatdad Год назад +2

    Excellent video. Perhaps, Terry Eagleon (Humour) was missing. Thank you very much, from Argentina.
    (Please could you mention the books and authors in the video description? Thank you so much)

  • @DenKulesteSomFins
    @DenKulesteSomFins Год назад +4

    Bro comedians like Joe Rogan and his likes saying that they are modern philosophers are dunning-kruger in the flesh.

    • @johmyh14
      @johmyh14 Год назад +1

      Bro have you even tried DMT?

    • @KBird204
      @KBird204 Год назад +1

      Bro have you even tried DMT?

  • @bwackbeedows3629
    @bwackbeedows3629 Год назад +2

    16:13
    Damn, fam! Haven't seen the Lucas Brothers in a minute!
    Had no idea they were Philosophy majors, that's cool asf 🙌🏿💯

  • @LeeAtkinson98
    @LeeAtkinson98 Год назад +3

    The funniest part of the bible is that people believe it beyond rational stories to extrapolate some magical all powerful being and use it as an excuse for war crimes 🤣

  • @BardWannabe
    @BardWannabe Год назад +2

    Mel Brooks called a character a “stand-up philosopher” back in the History of the World, Part 1.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      Thanks - wild that we missed that.

  • @chloemchll3774
    @chloemchll3774 Год назад +6

    I am a little disappointed there is no reference here to the “stand-up philosopher” in Mel Brooks’ “History of the World part 1”. Literally expected it to be right near the top, and then again as you’re going through the history of the Jester (as Brooks’ character first gets a job that is essentially to be the Jester, but then proceeds to speak too honestly and end up with the Emperor wanting his head.)
    I think the main issue is that many comedians like to think of themselves as philosophers, but the handful who might actually qualify rarely think of themselves that way (Carlin- possibly the gold standard for philosophy through comedy, resisted that comparison, and to his credit based it on his observation that philosophers are working with intent to in some way better the world through increasing our collective knowledge when all he was trying to do was make people laugh and maybe think about WHY they were laughing.) I don’t think comedians like Chapelle or Gervais are being philosophers when they insist that it is a comedian’s job to push buttons (or however they want to phrase it) yet they commonly get held up to that standard by their audience. In contrast, I do think a comedian like Bo Burnham occasionally dabbles in philosophy (a song like “Song from the Perspective of God” comes to mind as both a metaphysical musing as to the nature of God, and a harsh critique of the institutions that claim to represent God, even offering a conclusion to how we can be closer to what God wants from us.)
    I’ll happily agree with Plato and Aristotle that jokes that punch down rarely if ever have redeeming philosophic value, but I find it odd they only considered that one type of joke (mockery) and didn’t consider other forms like satire or irony, or even what happens when the mockery isn’t targeted downward.
    Still, this is maybe the most “me” any of your videos has ever been (I’m rather obsessed with the relationship between philosophy and art, and humor is perhaps the most interesting art form to consider precisely because most people- even people who do it- tend to not think of it as being art in the same way a great film or book or album are.)
    In any event, kudos on an excellent video!

    • @clydewilliams271
      @clydewilliams271 Год назад +2

      "OH! A bullshit artist. Did you bullshit last week?" Such a great bit and movie.

    • @Leopoldshark
      @Leopoldshark Год назад +1

      @@clydewilliams271 "Did you try to bullshit last week?"

    • @NetworkISA
      @NetworkISA Год назад +1

      I was looking for exactly this comment.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      We totally biffed it by not knowing that reference

    • @chloemchll3774
      @chloemchll3774 Год назад +1

      @@WisecrackEDU It seems to me then that you may need my services after all…

  • @Abdelrhman_Rayis
    @Abdelrhman_Rayis Год назад +2

    “one of the primary aims of philosophy is to making us aware of and exploring contradictions between the way we think the world is and the way the world actually is!” Quote of the Day

  • @WorstPrinciples
    @WorstPrinciples Год назад +3

    funniest part of the bible is god making Ezekiel eat shit bread

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад +1

      Shit Bread?!?!?

    • @WorstPrinciples
      @WorstPrinciples Год назад

      @@WisecrackEDU “…eat the food as you would a loaf of barley bread; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement…” Ezekiel 4:12
      God’s funny like that

  • @acady4460
    @acady4460 Год назад +1

    So glad you still make these videos!

  • @kimemia_maina
    @kimemia_maina Год назад +4

    Go all in on 'Wisecrack Man' by making a costume

  • @JoeBlackAttacks
    @JoeBlackAttacks Год назад +1

    Michael: "It's not the job of the comedian to start the revolution" Vladimir Zielinski (Ukrainian comedian/ talk show host turned president When Russia was on some F*ck $h*t): "Hold my beer!"🍻 20:55

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +3

    Happy new year guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

  • @4FPT
    @4FPT Год назад +1

    they make FuNnY points about society as it is, BUT NOT ON IMPROVING ONES DAY TO DAY LIFE. THEY DONT SHOW A PERSPECTIVE ON WALKING/LIVING LIFE. they want to make you laugh, connecting comedians and philosophers is at best a joke. Philosophers do poke at society but they go further, plus if you put philosophy in comedy no one will know when you're being sincere or felling a joke.

  • @lorriechristian7164
    @lorriechristian7164 Год назад +11

    I would have considered Chappelle one of the titular philosophical comedians until he got weird

    • @kendallmoore4826
      @kendallmoore4826 Год назад +1

      He became a jester more or less

    • @NWPaul72
      @NWPaul72 Год назад

      It's his attempted transition to demagogue for me. He hasn't stopped trying to tell his side of the trans thing... since it came up! It seems like it takes up all his time and mental real estate, then MAGA chuds repost the worst bits in Shorts and on TikTok

    • @lococomrade3488
      @lococomrade3488 Год назад +4

      "Got weird"
      i.e.: became a conservative.

    • @BlytheWestchild
      @BlytheWestchild Год назад +2

      Did you mean: transphobic

    • @mystuff9999
      @mystuff9999 Год назад +1

      I am genuinely interested what you mean by weird.

  • @thebandwagoneffect
    @thebandwagoneffect Год назад +1

    At least it’s “hey! Wisecrack guy!” And not “hey! It’s BingingWithBabish without his glasses!”

  • @optomal7
    @optomal7 Год назад +3

    Greece's first prop comedy act was Diogenes talking about the form of man.

  • @parkerdn2000
    @parkerdn2000 Год назад +1

    On the court jester...don't forget Mel Brooks in History of the World Part 1...Roman times and Brooks is in the unemployment line:
    Bea Arthur: Profession?
    Brooks: Stand-up Philosopher
    Arthur: Oh...a bullshit artist. Did you bullshit this week?
    Brooks: Nooooo
    Arthur: Did you try to bullshit this week?
    Brooks: Yesssssss

  • @lexdgordon
    @lexdgordon Год назад +3

    Insightful as always. I’ve been coming to terms with comedy vs clapper based off of a wisecrack live episode where Micheal brings it up as a response to conservative comedy but that it plays both ways. That said, I just wouldn’t edit Trevor Noah and “hack bits” together. I find as a comedic artist his material is shaped by his world view and quite authentic to him. But maybe that’s on the editor who may not in fact be Micheal. Similar to the Hasan edited together with debate bros when Micheal/wisecrack would admit that he isn’t and likes his content. But in this case a bit was played from Noah in the context of the statement and idk I just think Noah deserves better than that. So many other straight hack bits from comedians trying to punch down.

  • @thebrandelorian
    @thebrandelorian Год назад +1

    Will you guys do a video about the scholarship of RUclips? I'm a former grad student angry about how education is kept in ivory towers; however, RUclips has provided a space for public education that makes real connections that mean something to regular people (i.e. learning about philosophy through comedy and comedians). So many of my favorite RUclipsrs turn out to be grad students or (usually former) professors, and I love that this scholarship is happening without being paywalled by exorbitant tuition. And, as far as I know, no one is talking about this!!!

  • @MelodicQuest
    @MelodicQuest Год назад +55

    Isn't it crazy that philosophers speak to inspire change, yet they themselves typically lack the power or influence to enact the change they speak of?

    • @eztofollow
      @eztofollow Год назад +1

      you can't be a prophet in your own land

    • @Bojoschannel
      @Bojoschannel Год назад +8

      Nah man, Aristotle and Confucius were really influential, they were masters of great emperors and all. The scholastic philosophers were also key in the medieval times of Europe. More recently, many of the liberal philosophers were so influential that we still live under their influence, such as Locke, Montesquieu, Kant and Hobbes. Now i don't know if you can classify Fanon as a philosopher, but he played his part during the Algerian revolution, Mao did some philosophy while being one of the revolution leaders, Bakunin is another good example. In my country we got people like the Magon Brothers and Jose Revueltas who apart from philosophy did revolutionary work
      But, the truth is, while most philosopher's influence came after their death, no individual can ever bring "change" by himself, doesn't matter if they got great ideas or whatever, at best they can be part of a movement like many revolutionaries during the past couple of centuries

    •  Год назад +2

      If they weren't on this position, would they want change at all?

    • @umbrascitor2079
      @umbrascitor2079 Год назад

      *audience laughs*

    • @jamessizemore7103
      @jamessizemore7103 Год назад

      Makes me think about Alan Watts, man was a deeply spiritual self empowering philosopher, yet he died due to complications from alcohol abuse

  • @numbers0580
    @numbers0580 Год назад +1

    I'm seriously considering getting the person in this video a custom name plate for his office desk that says:
    I Have a Name
    ---------------------------------
    That Wisecrack Guy

  • @soonny002
    @soonny002 Год назад +6

    Philosophers like Zeno, Socrates, and Diogenes practiced what they preached. They lived simply and even died for the sake of their beliefs. Comedians are incentivized by money, they will joke about anything that brings a buck, and that is all the reason I need to be skeptical. Philosophers tell us what we need to hear, comedians tell us what we want to hear (to have a good laugh).
    It isn't true however, that comedy cannot mimick philosophy, but any helpful insights that come out of a it can only be a fortunate accident.

  • @jvondd
    @jvondd Год назад +1

    Not humblebrag, but I said this exact thing in a college classroom discussion 20 years ago.
    I'm not saying you stole my idea, but it's fair to say that our minds probably run on the same track.

  • @raulgarcia8627
    @raulgarcia8627 Год назад +3

    Wisecrack guy ✌️

  • @LHRPG_Official
    @LHRPG_Official Год назад +1

    How about that part in the Bible when God told Moses to send his people through the neighboring settlements and kill everyone but keep the young virgin girls for themselves.

  • @zenleeparadise
    @zenleeparadise Год назад +3

    Watching the ad to see if you're blinking "save me" in morse code. Can't believe Wisecrack is still making you shill for such terrible companies.

    • @JasonX909
      @JasonX909 Год назад

      Worth pointing out that this and another comment about the sponsor both got WC likes. Maybe they're cutting ties?

    • @zenleeparadise
      @zenleeparadise Год назад

      @@JasonX909 I got a feeling Michael is liking those comments and assuming WC isn't paying any attention to what he's doing (and he's probably right!)

    • @JasonX909
      @JasonX909 Год назад

      @@zenleeparadise Hopefully lol

  • @Furysonofrage
    @Furysonofrage Год назад +1

    At least you don't introduce every video in the format "hey vsauce, Michael here" and still get called vsauce.

  • @Matthew_Murray
    @Matthew_Murray Год назад +8

    Combine America’s history of anti-intellectualism, and our love of celebrity culture. It’s not a surprise that people would mistake comedians as philosophers.

  • @guignolfest
    @guignolfest Год назад +1

    Ian Karmel and Shane Torres. Both Portland comics. Hung out with both of them!

  • @thegimp7796
    @thegimp7796 Год назад +3

    How can a video like this be made and not include what Norm said about comedians being modern day philosophers?

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Год назад

      Honestly too much to cram in and we missed some stuff, but you’re right, his quote is awesome.

  • @seadawg93
    @seadawg93 Год назад +1

    “You might think that I would love this.” Nope, I watch this channel regularly, I’m quite sure you wouldn’t.