I was a bartender on a cruise ship 10 years ago and I've been wishing someone would make a video essay like this for quite some time. You guys nailed it.
There's so much more to go into - they're such floating prisons of dispair that I'm not even sure it's good for the passengers - it's bond villain stuff
Ho Chi Minh was a cruise chef as young man for a French cruiseline which naturally was alienating enough for him to want to start a revolution in Vietnam
@@chimchim2_ Wikipedia talks about jobs as a cook's assistant on a "merchant steamer" and a "ship" and there is reference to a potential pasty chef job in England and on a ferry, but no explicit mention of a "cruiseline" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh
Bro try traveling more than once a decade & you'll understand. It's great to get out & immerse yourself in something new, but you'll want the option to "pull out" and escape the new for a brief moment or two. I've never understood why people like you make these statements. Is it to try & feel superior? That's my best guess. But all it really does is show how little experience you have with an activity that you're turning your nose up at 😂
@@Secret_Takodachi OP was referring to traveling to curated tourist traps that are pretty much the same as the place you're from. I've done both, and I definitely cannot understand the appeal of being surrounded by the same culture, the same food and the same brands. Outside of hedonism, I guess, which probably costs less at home btw. There's plenty to see and do that doesn't involve getting drunk on the same three brands of alcohol and porking an intoxicated stranger, and it has a better payoff for sure, so if anything I do not understand YOUR aggression here...
Others have already addressed your aggressiveness...but i will just say that you sound all loud and wrong. You misunderstood that comment and it shows. Do better
@@johnascialpi5247yes. Boomers tend to leave critical comments on 15 minute city videos and articles. A notable number think that it’s a method of control to limit people’s resources and mobility. They tend to assume that wanting less car dependency is equivalent to being forced to be carless.
@@Window4503 Well honestly screw them and their dumb ass needs for cars. The infrastructure is crazy expensive. They don’t want to pay for it or maintain it.
I agree to an extent but there’s many type of cruisers. I met people on each cruise I’ve taken who take advantage of the gym classes offered on the ship and swim and take advantage of the open smoothie bar and the healthy food options. So there’s many muscular and fit people on cruises as well.
@@lexa_powerTrue, I def think Wall-E has a dystopian view of human beings, and also a semi ableist one, assuming we would all just become large/fat and unable to walk through our own actions over time. And to also be fair, most people on reg cruises IRL aren’t there for life to escape earth for years at a time.
Theres no homeless people to see on a cruiseline. my mothers affluent friend she made on the cruiseline laughed and said " not a homeless person in site" before my mom let her know we used to sleep on the streets and we arent rich
Look, if there’s one positive about a cruise, it’s the ease with which ppl seem to fall off their balconies in the middle of the night, never to be seen again.
I am a Boomer and I have never had a desire to go on a cruise ship. I have always considered them exploitive floating death factories full of people with too much money and not enough sense.
I agree with Ashley, and all the people I know that really like them are at best upper middle class. The cruises that seem to appeal to truly wealthy people are either sailing ships or based on destinations that are best experienced by boat like the Alaskan coast or Antarctica. Really, I think the cruises shown are selling the illusion of wealth to people who don’t really have it.
I worked as a SCUBA instructor for a number of years in the Whitsunday Islands in Australia, where our daily reef tour boat was regularly chartered to meet visiting cruise ships and take a bunch of their passengers to the outer coral reef for the day. My boss referred to cruise ship passengers as "The newly-wed, the over-fed, and the nearly-dead" - a dead-on observation :)
It's easy to say that when most people who take cruises are just your average John or Jane doe with limited funds or PTO and want to see the world in a limited amount of time
@@K1ng1995Two wrongs don't make a right. The average Joe needs to strive to be above average. We all need to do better, or else we won't have a future.
@@K1ng1995 idk what you want from me man. maybe impoverished nations deserve better than to hinge their economies on providing Service Industry comfort to the worst kinds of people.
Former cruise ship worker - nailed it! Next time talk about the modern form of slavery in service with 3rd world populations at the whim of rich tourists and the inherent racism that and the tier based class system of shiplife
Idk if you’d like it, but there is kind of a show that talks about this. It’s called “White Lotus”, and basically follows rich tourists in various areas, and the workers, especially natives, who have to deal with them. The richies are clearly not good people, and it has Jennifer Coolage in it.
your a moron, absolutely, the cruise lines probably barely get by. yes costa concordial would have been better off hiring crew only from Italy who speak the language. everything is about nor breaking the bank or staying int he red, you had to see that while on that ship. economies of scale, trust, let Joe Biden and the economy shift and those evil cruisers will forking vanish like a fart in the wind. everything is delicate, everyone was a stolen land of someone else, get the fork over it.
Our people built our great nations from scratch. These 3rd world workers and their people can do it too. They are already getting a tremendous boost to their economy from having first world jobs available to them and they still can't build their country. But hey if it's so terrible maybe we should just kill the cruise industry and not employ them at all. Then they can really build their country all on their own. Inb4 "your nations used slavery." Yeah, ALL nations used slavery. 3rd world nations used it just as much if not more than 1st world nations. It was the 1st world nations that realized it was bad and fought a series of bloody wars to end it. My people literally died to end slavery not just in their own nations, but abroad too. So don't even start.
As a Caribbean person trapped here with little opportunity (except in hospitality) listening to this feels like a bad dream. They're building a hotel close to me that's going to rely on the already limited water resources. Not to mention we're already feeling the consequences of global warming 💀
Have you considered pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Get a small loan of a million dollars from your father and start a company. Get that bread!
How is your internet infrastructure there? I know it's not a systemic solution, but maybe it can help one or a few people. You or any of your friends want to learn to code? I'll tutor and mentor you at no cost to try and help out. Would need to figure out how often, for how much time, and till when, but it's the best way I can think of to help out. Other suggestions appreciated
@@DictatorDraco Our connection here is fairly good. I'm actually doing Harvard's CS50 course atm but I'm definitely open to more conversation. You'll let me know how to contact you
I went to the Bahamas (but not on a cruise) and the seething resentment towards tourists underneath the smiles was palpable from the locals. But I got out of the bubble and went to a restaurant far beyond the tourist areas. Fantastic meal.
@@michaels.starnes194 loool that why you go out as a tourist in the first place! 😂 I know, most of this cruise ships are mostly tailored for the average american to be baby sitted and idealizing a fake caribbean lifestyle Ive seen similar stuff in Mexico's beaches/hotels made for americans. These are made for idealizing the caribbean lifestyle.. all wrapped in a bubble. You can go out and explore a local museum , or local crafts ( actually any latin american is great) locally made .. but if you dont step outside this gigantic fake bubble obviously you wont see the real place - insert any local place/beach/country that you just stepped a few feet away fromthe cruise ships - I understand for americans everything needs to be babyfed, even tourism needs to be fake or glorified. You would surprise if you step out a bit further from the cruise ship tourist traps basically...
I’ve never understood the appeal of Mickey Mouse tourism. Visiting impoverished regions of the world and shielding yourself from those realities is just strange.
I’ve never been on a cruise. i’m shocked that they do such things as create a DMZ for their tourists. If you want to stay on the boat then you can stay on the boat, why make the stops just like being on the boat. What madness.
What you don't understand? Middle class people from stronger currency countries visiting beautiful beaches for parties, food, waiter services, sexual tourism and everything else they couldn't afford at home but can afford in socialist countries because people there were stupid to elect populist leaders who devaluated their currency? They're in for these things, not to see how single mothers can't afford feeding her 5 children. Not their problem, not their fault.
These floating cities have always been the symbol I point to of our dystopian, consumerist, capitalist societies. There has been nothing historically from the most powerful dynasties that have even come close to matching it. It's absolutely nuts.
Are you just mad because you can’t even afford an interior stateroom on the cheapest carnival 2 day cruise? It’s ok, just keep complaining about capitalism enough and you’ll be rich too someday! 🤗
@@josephde-haan1074 Because 99% of people that complain about capitalism lack there own capital (ie. are broke) and the remaining 1% are grifters and politicians that want to increase their own wealth and power by pandering sad boy commie ideals.
True! Why I rather deal with reality than escape on a cruise in the ocean. Make it better at home than party it up for a few days having everything to your touch.
I don’t avoid reality - but after my most recent self deletion attempt I’ve been focusing on podcasts to keep the bad thoughts away. When my ex husband walked out on me and i tried to self delete, the only thing that made me forget about my shitty life is was podcasts 24/7. Got me through some rough times. Now that I’ve discovered cruising I’m doing much better. Cruising genuinely saved my life. Wouldn’t be here without it as i love travel but can’t afford hotels or restaurants. Did an MSC 11 day cruise recently for $600 out the door all inclusive. Versus a hotel is at least $200-300 a night anywhere in a big city.
You guys know this channel is also distributed a pod cast, right? Just kidding, but seriously, it’s not the format that matters. If you are trying to defend your mistake right now, stop, take a deep breath, and realize we’re all just human. It’s okay.
You need to do a part 2 that talks about the cruise lines hiring practices. Like how they recruit housekeeping staff from the Philippines- only. Or how the entertainment staff are hired from the US and UK - only. There is an entire caste system below decks.
i once saw someone talk about a similar pseudo-caste system in hospitals. the doctors skew white, the doctors' assistants skew east asian, the janitorial staff skews latino, and the culinary staff skews black. emphasis was placed on how often each group was seen by patients
Umm, that’s probably because being an entertainer for English speaking guests is kinda hard when you don’t speak English. Meanwhile folding sheets doesn’t require it.
As a traveler, I think cruiseships are sort of a travel-wannabe. Not daring to take an inch out of the comfort zone or their country, but 'traveling'. I did and enjoyed a cruise ship once (invited by a friend) and I absolutely loved all the 'enchanted world" feeling, but 'traveling' is something else, opening the mind, learning, and way more than walking a fake town. I wish cruiseship passengers wouldn't replace (or confuse) traveling with going on a cruiseship. Thank you Wisecrack! Brilliant as usual!
@@jchris333 She also said that she's done both, and is encouraging people that only cruise to do both. If you have a problem with that and feel the need to try to shame her for stating a valid opinion, then it looks like you're the one up there on that horse.
Yep, traveling like Ibn Batuta or Marco Polo is very different than what people do today, especially a cruise. Edit: Actually, Ibn Batuta might be kind of a counter example because in many cases he did stick close to wealthy Muslims even when going to China or Africa.
You know most people get on cruise ships because it's affordable. I would have never been able to afford going to go to three different locations in one trip any other way.
The U.S. simply improving healthcare could aid in making this industry less significant. My Dad says he might live on a cruise if it ever gets to a point that he would consider a retirement home because it would be way more enjoyable on a cruise than a retirement home and also CHEAPER because the U.S. is so sadastic with healthcare/adjacent services
I took a cruise last year with a group of friends, and I noticed quite a bit of the grey hair set camping out on board. They didn't do excursions, they didn't do shopping or most of the entertainment, and they were there because unlike a US "assisted living" community, the cruise ship was affordable. The cruise offered meals, laundry, room cleaning, and minor medical services with the price of a cabin. They talked about how cruise ships were a better bargain than assisted living on land and the staff was much friendlier. I don't blame them, but cruises take a hell of an environmental toll just to house people that could easily be helped on land if only the US population would wake the hell up to how much of their money goes toward wars and death and NOT actual quality of living.
@@wwaitkusthis is my retirement plan as well. I agree it’s not ideal but neither is rotting in a nursing home. I don’t really have any close friends or family and don’t want to be alone in my elder years.
@@wwaitkusExactly. The US needs to actually start caring for citizens instead of forcing them into environmentally damaging options and acting all fascist. Spending more money on bombs than any social service is so fucked. Edit: No I’m not saying pushing citizens into cruises is fascist. I’m saying in addition to it, there are systems built to fail us because they focus more on funding and supporting more fascist projects like the prison industrial complex, like imperial force through our military, like pushing nationalism, like so many things. People having to choose this option and not having good social systems is a byproduct of the US focusing on doing other things, many of which have fascist tendencies. Just look at our military, just look at Trump, just look at how we exploit other countries and still rely on slavery.
@@axdillingham6658relatively cheap??? All museums I’ve been to in my life have had an entry fee of about $40-$60 per person. A dollar and a half is crazy
As a late Boomer I went on 3 Caribbean cruises in the 1910s and this all looks accurate. I eventually learned that all shore excursions were a racket, one time going on a 2-hour drive to a fucking gift shop that had an okay view from a balcony -- that you had to walk through the giftshop to get to (followed by another 2-hour drive back to the ship). Shopping, poolside, eating, and drinking -- all excessive and manipulative only to find out that the crew typically works 12-hour days and depend on gratuities from departing passengers to earn barely decent wages. I would never do it again.
What a heap of bull. Working on a cruise ship is usually much better pay for these people than what they normally would earn with better conditions, too. Many in fact get kicked off, because they usually try to scam the passengers (happened to my mother). So don't think these people are innocent angels being molested.
This dichotomy was really brought home for me way back in 1999, when I traveled to Istanbul with my brother, and an elderly couple we knew well were on a Mediterranean cruise that happened to dock in Istanbul during our stay. Whereas my brother and I went as local as we could, e.g. taking the commuter tram and eating at restaurants favored by locals, our friends were stuck in a little enclave of sorts in which every employee spoke perfect English, restaurants served familiar American food, and everything was pristine and spotless. Of course, the enclave was surrounded by prison-level high fences and barbed wire, and cruise travelers were discouraged from stepping foot outside. Aside from a day trip we took them on through the city, they experienced nothing that was unfamiliar to them. It was essentially the equivalent of just staying home in the USA, watching a documentary on Istanbul, and ordering takeout.
Old, retired people don't want to deal with the locals and I don't blame then. They have been there and done that, they don't need to buy from the Istanbul seller that plays silly games with their ice cream ffs.
@@RogueReplicant That may be, but it’s pretty straightforward for a traveler in most places, in my experience, to see and experience the local culture and experience beneath the tourist-facing veneer. I’ve done so everywhere I’ve been. What I think more likely is that most people, at least most Americans, are comfortable with the familiar and apprehensive about the unfamiliar. Digging deeper requires learning a bit of the local language, getting to know locals, and going off of the beaten path.
I’ve done a few cruises in the past, and I’ve got to say, i agree with a lot of this video. It quickly became clear that any time we spent on the islands was “scripted”. I actually made notes of some of the islands that I’d like to fly back to and spend more time on, so I could see more of the actual culture but then, ya know, I had to make sure i could afford groceries. Another thing that shows the influence of the cruise lines on the islands is that the “locally made” items like bracelets and necklaces just so happen to be on every excursion. Cruises are fun, but man there’s a ton of negative aspects that just make it hard to be comfortable with.
I'm a Gen Xer that had absolutely no desire to ever go on a cruise, in fact it was never on my radar period. But in 2016 the family put a lot of pressure to do a first whole (but small) family vacation ever, and with my mother in a wheelchair, most thought a cruise would be ideal. I insisted that I didn't want to go to anywhere hot, so we settled on Alaska. Wife & I loved it so much more than expected, that we did a new England/Canada cruise on our own in 2018. Of course, the same problems of the impact of ships is probably close to the same, although my perception is that Holland America, which we took both cruises seem to be more sustainable being much smaller ships without crazy stuff like roller coasters, etc. That, combined with the ports all being US & Canadian, isn't that quite a bit better? I really would love to know.
I never was interested in a cruise. Then my extended family wanted to gather everyone ( most were in NY state)for a vacation together. I flew in and joined them for a cruise on Holland America to Bermuda. It was a small ship, not geared for crazy partying and noisy kid rides. It was ideal for parents to have adult time because there was a club for teens , another for younger kids, lots of supervision. We met for meals, walks around the deck, playing board games. No one had to worry about cooking, cleaning, babysitting, laundry. In Bermuda we took the buses around the island together, explored the beaches and museums, walked a lot. Overall, for such a low price, it was a good experience. Cruise ships employ a lot of musicians, actors and other stage workers - invaluable experience. And Holland America had a group of performers drawn from their crew who would share their various cultures. They make it possible for them to study other languages, to learn other aspects of hospitality to advance their careers. My friends like to get last-minute cruises to Alaska from Seattle. It’s far cheaper than flights, staying in hotels and going to restaurants.
@@LilyGazouyeah done right depending on destination and ship size ect they have some good points as you say ,giving performer's and artists reasonably work and opportunities that may otherwise not got ,and cruises to places like Alaska make a lot of sense
Weird how everytime the question is "But how are they racking in so much money?", the phrase "avoids paying their taxes in the US" comes up. Anyway, on an unrelated note, I sure wish we could do UBI here in the US, too bad we'll NEVER figure out how to fund that!
For real, we need UBI. Tho I think it should be based more on equity, since some people need more money to survive than others, especially the disabled who require assistance tools, meds, etc. And personally I love taxes, tho I hate paying them in the US because they fund war mostly. I know there are always gonna be things people, don’t always agree on their taxes being paid for, duh, but when we pay taxes and see basically little to no quality of life brought back through those funds, it’s gross.
its crazy how we handwring about how to fund anything that might benefit Americans, but can call emergency sessions of congress to pass another bill to send a couple billion dollars to Israel
Abolish inheritance, personal wealth caps under 10 mil, astronomically higher fines for creating public hazards (eg corporate/industrial waste, more automated traffic behavior registering, etc)...defundinf the military can finance most other reforms (eg education spending)
Regarding the pollution factor, when these massive cruise ships pull into a port, they keep their engines running during the entire stay and literally gas the local population. A few years back, there was a big lawsuit over the cruise companies' liability for a massive increase in cancer cases in Marseille, a major port of call.
they reallly have no other options as none of the ports are capable of shore power yet all it carnivals ships are 10 years behind the curve when it comes to shore power capabilities
You can do somtsing abott: Form a German Newspaper: New shore power system at Steinwerder cruise terminal Status: 22.12.2023 15:49 hrs Powerful electricity instead of marine diesel: the air in the Port of Hamburg could soon be a little cleaner. Because there is a new shore power system at the Steinwerder cruise terminal. Cruise ships are like a floating city - and their hunger for energy is correspondingly great. At the Steinwerder cruise terminal, this hunger for energy can now be satisfied with high voltage electricity. Hamburg has had experience of this since 2017: the first shore-side power plant went into operation in Altona six years ago. Cruise ships to be supplied with green electricity There was initially a lot of criticism of this system, as only a few cruise ships were able to use it. According to the Hamburg Economic Authority, this has now changed: In the coming year, it expects the majority of cruise ships to be supplied with green electricity while docked in the Port of Hamburg. At the Steinwerder terminal, ships are expected to use renewable energy from land for 140 calls in the coming year. In Altona, a further 40 calls are also firmly planned for a shore-side power supply. Regular operation of the shore power system planned for 2024 This could save many tons of diesel that were previously used for the power supply on board. The new system at the Steinwerder cruise terminal is already in test operation and is scheduled to go into regular operation at the beginning of next year. Stop Complainig
Wow, this is eerily appropriate. My parents just got back from a cruise they took in Japan. They were going on about all the negative things they experienced like the limited amount of info about the places they stopped to check out coz they wanted you to do their paid tour and everything on the boat you had to pay extra “even tho it said it was all meant to be included, but apparently that was the premium package” and the quality of the staff and historians, etc.,, I wanted to say that’s because this is late stage capitalism and going on cruises and tours without even learning anything about the local cultures is so colonialist. Then I see your video just hours later and I feel so emboldened of my opinions!
This doesn't even go into the safety concerns of cruises, for both passengers and crew. I've heard so many horror stories, I never want to ever go on one
@@WisecrackEDUA green screen can be anything. It's like the Willy Wonka of backgrounds. It could be grass... or it could be the distressing and traumatic tunnel scene that that majority of actors were not aware of and is in no way fitting the tone of the movie or original book. "Pure imagination"
The irony being that the ONE cruise ship that's flag of convince is the U.S. therefore following the U.S. labor laws, ended up being one of the least popular cruise ships...
I understand the reasoning that a ship would wait for a large group but not a few people that don't make it back to port. At the same time, it feels like another twist of the knife on the local economies that on almost every list of important things to remember about going on a cruise, there's always "Do not book anything locally or you'll risk being left behind if you get a flat tire or get caught in traffic. ONLY go on the official excursions offered by the cruise line."
Just wondering: Do cruise ship crews keep precise tabs on who leaves and returns to the ship? If not, I could imagine that quite a few people simply disappear, one way or another.
@alannothnagle pretty much its a quick like check using the tickets. Since they would at a bare minimum know who is supposed to be on the ship. Modern day technology makes that part pretty easy at least
@@alannothnagle every time you disembark at a port the crew at the door list your name and take a photo. When you return they check the list and take another photo to prove your status.
Love the support for the Irish on the Crown, lol. Once I was drunk at a party and allegedly (I have a very fuzzy memory of it) when Zombie by Cranberries started playing I threw a chair and started screaming "free Ireland, fuck the UK!" and that's how I learned my convictions run really deep.
My coworker who loves cruises was telling me how she was yelling at a store clerk who didn't know what a bra was. I just politely nodded and kept my mouth shut even though I wanted to tell her she should be more considerate of their situation
On my first and only cruise in 2023 Grand Turk was the only destination that allowed passengers to see the rest of the island. It had been severely damaged by hurricane Fiona and our taxi driver talked about the swath of destroyed buildings essentially being left to rot because there was nothing they could do. Decaying buildings just out of the view of the pristine Margaritaville and Starbucks. The Turks and Caicos national museum is fantastic, by the way. Stop by it if you’re in the area.
“Why isn’t anyone regulating these things?” Lol, there are like 2 millennials/zoomers in congress, zero in the senate, they are all boomers or geriatrics…
I think this might be your best video yet. It covers so many topics that are all encompassing and concentrated in this. I wish the people with their heads in the sand could see it. I'm only 42 and I've already mostly given up on changing anything ... (this fight has been my whole life...I even hated the Reagans when I was a kid) ... so God knows the boomers have totally given up on caring. I'm so sorry to the kids. That's part of why I didn't have any. So much destruction in so little time. There's going to be a massive layer of plastic in our brief history for future alien archaeologist to find. It's so embarrassing
I recently went on a cruise as "not a boomer", thinking I'd try it out before judging it. I visited towns which looked staged, places where you could not find a "regular" grocery store or things locals actually would use. I saw stores dangling mostly made-in-china goods which had arrived there on similarly large ships. I kept thinking of how poorly paid and/or overworked the staff probably is (considering how almost the entire crew was from Philippines or Vietnam), and how little I had spent on each port, on the local economies I passed through. Sitting on a hot tub with a cold beer in hand, as I watched the slightly dark haze of the engine smoke over my head, I could not shake the thought of how much pollution this week long endeavor had created. I usually like to travel by backpacking, spending my money on the least tourist-trap looking locations, restaurants and shops, buying local everywhere I go. I had no incentive to buy local on the ports of my cruise, as nothing anywhere near the ports was actually local. I felt like I was indulging in luxurious meals and drinks while spitting on the world, and as I chatted with others who said this was their ##th cruise I wondered just how much would you have to ignore, or how little you had to care about the world to actually enjoy "cruise life". Cruising is the epitome of giving the world the middle finger.
Yeah. The most wasteful, filthy, and inefficient transport ever nightmared up. 😢 I DID hear they just dump their raw sewage everywhere they go. How disgusting a visitor could one be, to crap on someone else's beaches? 🤮
@@Mayhzon "They get paid slightly more than poverty rates" is not really the flex you think it is. It's still exploitation, using the promise of having slightly more than starvation wages. It's the creation of a racial underclass and the stratification of the labor market. If you're wondering why "socialism" is becoming more popular in America, maybe think about what good has capitalism and the "trickle down" economics done for most people?
@@AshleySpeaks4U Westerners crapping on the lands of developing countries to extract all their wealth through neo colonialist capitalism is literally just business as usual though. Instead of corporate armies pointing guns, it's a complex global system of markets put in place to keep them dependent on first world nations (their former colonizers).
@@AshleySpeaks4U there is a documentary that shows how the ships work- the arrival and inspection of produce, the trucks that come to take the sewage to a treatment plant, the refreshing of the water tanks, unloading luggage, doing laundry, cleaning, etc. They have to do all this in a limited period of time before the next cruise starts. It’s on RUclips.
@@yautl1 No, that would make you a Bolshevist and just another type of extremist. A better life lies somewhere else, without excessive consumption, but also without the misery Communist ideals bring. Just a good traditional family life, filled with empathy and all the necessities covered. That's a better world. And yes, I know it was a joke. But some people might take your comment at face value lol.
@@Mayhzon lol I can tell you're a right winger just by how media illiterate you are. all of you are like this. so ignorant of your world and society. every attempt to level the playing field is "communism" and "brutal stalinism," but everything that funnels wealth from the poor to the billionaire class is just "freedom." i can tell how little you read actual books and primary sources, and how much you consume media through TV and online propaganda like Prager U or Daily Wire types.
Yeah given how little has changed in the last few decades, despite obvious evidence of how trickle down economics literally gives a trickle of wealth to the bottom 90%, it's no surprise how the only way out of this mess is to have revolutionary ideas.
I was able to go to a carnival cruise with my old man when I was younger and it was quite the experience. My first time in such an environment full of endless pleasure, where I could eat, drink, and be merry without a single care. True excess. I can see how it can make someone addicted. I can also see how rich folks get addicted to it and this was only 1/100 of the experience. The destinations trump the on ship experience though, yet I did feel that we were sheltered. Me and my dad made it a point to leave the boundaries of the touristy areas and explore and that made the trip much better. I could then finally say that I've been to another country, especially one I had roots in. I'm glad I experienced a cruise but I'd rather a trip that's fulfilling spiritually and emotionally, not just in unrestrained pleasure. You can do better without participating in such a destructive system of tourism.
Growing up in Ireland in the 90s & 00s, it was really rare to hear of someone going on a cruise. And you’d always know they were a bunch of knobs if they did.
Gen X'er here... Been on a few cruises, but mostly because I hate flying. Cruising is a strange experience. It provides a frontrow seat to the bovine nature of American tourism. And I think it is fair to say that the younger cruisers tend to be better ambassadors when on-ship and in ports (when sober, at least) while Boomers tend to come across as demanding and entitled. The critique about the ships and ports being gentrified is absolutely correct. You don't really visit the Bahamas, for example, you visit the small section cordoned off for commercial consumption, and must be back on the ship long before the illusion is shattered.
The situation you're describing applies to almost every tourist destination in developing countries, especially in Africa and North Africa. Tourists are often encouraged to avoid interacting with locals and to stay within a stress-free bubble. However, it's not all negative - this situation also creates indirect economic opportunities and jobs. The economy is fragile, but that's the reality.
Wrong. It restricts the opportunities only to a select section of locals who are then exploited due to their desperation for higher paying jobs. How about these benefits stop being funneled out of those countries and be used to uplift the entire local economy? The ruthless competition of capitalism doesn't actually help, it only hurts those who don't have existing infrastructure or built-in advantages that a multinational megacorporation has. The cruise line can still profit off shuttling white entitled people around. They will just have to share some of it now with the people of the countries they want to land in. Maybe by allowing more locals to benefit from the economic opportunities of tourism, there wouldn't be so much hostility, and more tourists would actually want to venture into the city and interact more with the locals, rather than eating at the same fucking mcdonald's every time?
Boomer here. Never been on a cruise because I can't stand the idea of being crowded together with hundreds of other people in a small space. If I was forced onto a cruise, I'd probably hide in my room watching TV most of the time.
I liked this episode, it explains a lot. I find cruises fascinating. They look like social experiments. It makes me think that the environment they create inside these ships could inspire the design of Lunar or Mars colonies. I like to see the shared spaces, the amenities, the activities to keep the passengers entertained. Some YT channels that talk about cruising say that they sometimes dont see the sea that much. One ship had ceiling of the main hall showing moving whales on a blue screen. A space station could create a blue sky to mimic a real sky. However contrary to a cruise ship, a space station has to produce it's own food and recycle waste. A space station would require everybody to participate in the community and work toward it's improvement and safety.
A space station or moon base/colony will not be akin to a cruise ship. Far from it. Those are going to be places of research and scientific exploration. It's funny how so Americanized your mindset is that you prioritize and project vacation, consumerist fantasies, over actual educational objectives, the pursuit of knowledge, and the betterment of humanity. Cruise vacations are the literal antithesis of those values. It's no wonder America has the literal worst public education system and has the dumbest, least educated population in all developed, post industrialized nations. Well you don't even need to look at stats such as those. Just a short look at who you elect to office tells us everything we need to know about how terrible and trashy Americans truly are. If rich people think space vacation is going to be a thing, boy are they in for a very rude awakening. Them thinking that space is a place to relax and escape the "dirty" poor people they will create due to their climate change inducing practices, rather than an empty void that actively tries to find infinite ways to kill and suffocate you, will result in the greatest act of karma possible.
As a Dominican, the Trujillo connection left me in shock the entire video. He also turned accepting Jewish immigrants during WW2 into a business The depths of that man's putrid soul cannot be fully expressed by words, but this quote summarizes his end "The ballot or the bullet"
I found this especially funny cause I just booked an Afro cruise from Sweden to Estonia…the irony is not lost on me (I’m Nigerian and more than 80% of the passengers are of African descent)
i’ve been on a few cruises and actually always hated the experience of the ports. they were obviously catered to cruise tourism and i tried really hard to venture out a bit to eat and shop at local businesses. when we got to st. maarten, i asked someone where i could get a good local meal, and they pointed me to a restaurant on the pier. i said “no, literally local, like something you would make.” he looked at me like i was a strange creature, talked me through the walk i should take, and i ended up at a little house with a home cooked meal for $3. everyone seemed incredibly grateful that i ventured out the tourist trap to support them instead. that day opened my eyes a bit.
I think big part is an understatement...like 94% of existing countries hate the British empire😂 they weren't good at making friends of the locals during colonialization
@@warren1078 I'm not arguing that it's right, but a lot of "normal" people I've met seem to think of the British empire as quaint and vaguely silly, outside of countries like Ireland with current or recent anti-imperialist struggles against the British empire. Even Afghani and Indian people I've met will be like "cup of tea sir? hehehe" and I'll be like ??? - I'm thinking of people with both middle class and working class backgrounds
@@TheCalmackyea there's a difference between hating what the empire did and hating the current UK population or the contemporary frivolous tourist-identity Royalty.
Beware of anything Carnival Cruise Lines out of Miami---Carnival keeps lowering cruise prices for unsold cabins as cruise date nears. Carnival has become Compton at Sea.
I have sailed a yacht loaded with friends from one side of the Mediterranean to the other. I am going on a Mediterranean cruise in July so I don’t have to worry about everyone having a nice time. And to feel superior to all the other passengers who are seeing the ports for the first time, which of course are not the best ports, but I can over explain this during the course of 7 days. The cruise is cheaper than chartering and provisioning a yacht and saves the time and stress associated with trying to dock while drunk.
I've never been on a cruise, but I used to work on a tourist boat that rendezvoused regularly with visiting cruise ships. From what I've seen, cruise ship holidays seem to involve a lot of time standing in queues. Having also done the bareboat charter thing, I'd say give me my own boat and a few choice friends in a magical location anytime! That said, I definitely hear you on the burden of being skipper ... sleeping lightly all night worrying about whether you might be dragging anchor, or being kept awake by every single *thud* of a mooring buoy down the side of your hull on a breezy night** are less attractive parts of the whole experience. ** If you're a mono sailor exclusively, the mooring buoy *thud* *thud* *thud* down the inside of a hull is a catamaran-specific experience: they sail around on their moorings just from the windage on the hulls and coach house.
The Boomers, the generation older than me, like the cruise idea because they aren’t the most independently mobile group anymore. They need catering and controlled areas as they aren’t of an age to be the adventurous explorers of their youth when they had no available cash and sunk everything into supporting their families.
Thank you for confirming that I have no desire ever to go on a cruise. A big part of what I enjoy when I travel is getting to know some of the local people and supporting as many small businesses as I can.
As a sheltered American who aspires to travel more, I've always felt grossed out by the idea of cruises. I've never understood why I felt this way, but you helped me understand. There's basically nothing on a cruise ship itself that you can't experience back at home. It would feel no different than spending a week at a luxury resort in my home country, surrounded by my own people.
Hedonistic individuals and generations give us younger ones perfect examples of how not to be. Hopefully we all learn the proper lessons to change things. The one thing that gives me hope is that no one lives forever. As long as we younger souls learn how terrible it is to be that way? We can look forward to eventually having a better and fairer world one day. Keh, it just hit me that I'm not the only one having to clean up after my parents... A great number of us are stuck cleaning up the disgusting messes of those who came before us. Guess it's time to roll up or sleeves, right everyone!? Let's do this! 💪
Cruise to Ensanada, Mexico in 2000 and HATED IT. Loved getting to land and riding horses, but hated being seasick, hated being confined, hated never being away from people unless I was in my tiny cabin, hated the dumb entertainment, hated the creeps on deck after dark, hated hated hated it
I cruise 2x a decade to unplug, sleep in total darkness, and be a blob. But I get in random people's cars and see the real city tho. The "safe" piers are for scaredy cats. But I'm a cis male, so no shade to those who identify as women. It's a tough world out there be safe.
Cruises are weird ….assuming you’re not taking a super small but also extremely expensive boat… it’s just a shitload of brown ppl who you know aren’t getting paid well waiting on you hand n foot. Like if you can get over THAT then idk how much the micro imperialism once u dock is gonna matter. (Also all that see the actual island shit is for the birds lol….like get some of the local food but ain’t nobody go on vacation to see real Jamaica/Barbados/DR/insert island here lol)
@@joshspoon "safe piers" aka racially segregated areas where the only people of color you see are exploited workers who probably earn 10% of the US federal minimum wage. I mean if this isn't literally what perfectly portrays what Apartheid South Africa was like, I don't even know...
Michael, I just can’t tell you how much I enjoy your weekly pieces. They are so interesting, so well-researched, and you, young man. You just have a terrific on-air presence. You’re extremely funny, very self-deprecating in a likable way… but also, when the subject calls for it, very angry. Do you know how hard it is, even all these years later, to find a smart person who says way out loud that Ronald Reagan was a borderline evil, dumb as a post, corrupt asshole who screwed over the regular folk every chance he got? (Uh-oh… there I go again) I look forward to Wisecrack uploads every week. Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t let the suits hold you and your team down.
As an avid hiker and outdoorsman I used to scoff at cruise ship vacationers and even RVers. Low and behold with the coercion of my wife, I have a toy hauler and RVed America 4 times Westcoast to Eastcoast. I have also been on 4 Royal Caribbean cruises and I ENJOYED all of them. I despise things like dining in public, going to motels and going to public events. This is partly due to the fact that you end up paying for service and its crap 😒. On all the cruises, EVERYONE working was enthusiasticly happy and helpful. Was it just a facade? I'm sure it was, but damned they are good actors and I enjoyed the benefits of a good positive experience. Props to management and logistics on these cruises. If only government ran so efficiently.
My Gramdma could afford to do cruises when my Grandpa passed away and she downsized the property they owned. I knew someone who worked as a childcare employee on cruises. They also had to do exotic dancing, and had a serious substance abuse issue. These things make more sense after seeing this video.
I went on a cruise from Washington up to Alaska that was surprisingly fun. Much less of the stereotypical trappings of the Caribbean cruises, and theoretically less damaging to fledgling nations.
There was a great jam band music festival called Wanee I used to go to. The old timers would come in early and put up fold out chair all over the the lawn in front of the stage. Of course they can afford to get there early and grab all the good spots before most of the young working folks. Always irked me that they were "reserving" spots to sit in the front row where I would like to stand and watch. Your cruise ship chair story just reminded me of that.
I once took a train trip across Europe (I'm from the Netherlands) with the southern most destination being infamous cruise destination Dubrovnik, my hotel was next to the harbor. Somehow I enjoyed sitting on my hotel balcony watching 2 cruiseships a day dock/undock(?) with all the hustle and bustle that went with it.
I'm a pre boomer who enjoys quiet cruising. I don't want a huge ship with all the circus attractions. Good food and service from friendly staff is important. Unusual, quirky port visits are preferred, but I enjoy relaxing on sea days. Alcohol can be a curse on board. A quiet drink is nice, but not the drunken fools we so often encounter nowadays.
Also as a solo if you are extremely lonely it can be a great way to meet people who share your hobbies. For example i love sports and met tons of nba fans on my birthday cruise this past week and we all exchanged info so now i have friends to chat basketball with!
Yayyyy thank you for putting this on spotify! I usually use an ad blocker and feel bad about it but I pay for spotify so this is good! I can be legit supporting you a bit. 😂
I was a bartender on a cruise ship 10 years ago and I've been wishing someone would make a video essay like this for quite some time. You guys nailed it.
I hope you made enough money to deal with the PTSD (I was a bartender in a regular sports bar for a few years and that still gives me nightmares)
Working for the rich is traumatizing
There's so much more to go into - they're such floating prisons of dispair that I'm not even sure it's good for the passengers - it's bond villain stuff
So, did you get laid alot ?
They can make so much more than they can make at the 3rd world countries they come from, right?
Ho Chi Minh was a cruise chef as young man for a French cruiseline which naturally was alienating enough for him to want to start a revolution in Vietnam
😮😮😮
Bingo
Is this true? If so 🤯
@@chimchim2_ Wikipedia talks about jobs as a cook's assistant on a "merchant steamer" and a "ship" and there is reference to a potential pasty chef job in England and on a ferry, but no explicit mention of a "cruiseline" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh
@@chimchim2_ I think op was being cheeky.
I've never understood people who want to travel, but still be surrounded by everything familiar.
It's human nature we want something different enough to be interesting but familiar enough to not be threatening.
Bro try traveling more than once a decade & you'll understand. It's great to get out & immerse yourself in something new, but you'll want the option to "pull out" and escape the new for a brief moment or two.
I've never understood why people like you make these statements. Is it to try & feel superior? That's my best guess. But all it really does is show how little experience you have with an activity that you're turning your nose up at 😂
@@Secret_Takodachi That's a pretty hostile rebuttal. OP read like they just wanted to understand to me.
@@Secret_Takodachi OP was referring to traveling to curated tourist traps that are pretty much the same as the place you're from. I've done both, and I definitely cannot understand the appeal of being surrounded by the same culture, the same food and the same brands. Outside of hedonism, I guess, which probably costs less at home btw.
There's plenty to see and do that doesn't involve getting drunk on the same three brands of alcohol and porking an intoxicated stranger, and it has a better payoff for sure, so if anything I do not understand YOUR aggression here...
Others have already addressed your aggressiveness...but i will just say that you sound all loud and wrong. You misunderstood that comment and it shows. Do better
Boomers will say 15 minute cities are the most terrifying thing they can imagine, then pay five grand to visit one in the middle of the ocean.
Do boomers say that about 15 minute cities? Is it becuase they love cars?
@@johnascialpi5247yes. Boomers tend to leave critical comments on 15 minute city videos and articles. A notable number think that it’s a method of control to limit people’s resources and mobility. They tend to assume that wanting less car dependency is equivalent to being forced to be carless.
@@Window4503 Well honestly screw them and their dumb ass needs for cars. The infrastructure is crazy expensive. They don’t want to pay for it or maintain it.
There is a huge difference between a city and being on the ocean with others with our same mindset, tax bracket, and pay grade.
"not with the poor"
The space ship in Wall-E was very much a cruise liner.
"A is for Axiom, your home sweet home. B is for Buy N Large, your very best friend."😅😅😅
I agree to an extent but there’s many type of cruisers. I met people on each cruise I’ve taken who take advantage of the gym classes offered on the ship and swim and take advantage of the open smoothie bar and the healthy food options. So there’s many muscular and fit people on cruises as well.
@@lexa_powerTrue, I def think Wall-E has a dystopian view of human beings, and also a semi ableist one, assuming we would all just become large/fat and unable to walk through our own actions over time.
And to also be fair, most people on reg cruises IRL aren’t there for life to escape earth for years at a time.
For a family movie WALL-E is insanely dark
One of the best cautionary tales ever made!
Theres no homeless people to see on a cruiseline. my mothers affluent friend she made on the cruiseline laughed and said " not a homeless person in site" before my mom let her know we used to sleep on the streets and we arent rich
She didn't go to level 3
Look, if there’s one positive about a cruise, it’s the ease with which ppl seem to fall off their balconies in the middle of the night, never to be seen again.
I would’ve told you mom “my point still stands”. I mean, I feel bad y’all were homeless but nobody likes to see homelessness while on vacation.
Great point - houselessness can be disappared
Most people who work on ships don't have a home
I am a Boomer and I have never had a desire to go on a cruise ship. I have always considered them exploitive floating death factories full of people with too much money and not enough sense.
Death factories? What?
Meds! Now.
I see them as a massive, crowded, moving sewer, trapped in the middle of nowhere with zero escape.
I agree with Ashley, and all the people I know that really like them are at best upper middle class. The cruises that seem to appeal to truly wealthy people are either sailing ships or based on destinations that are best experienced by boat like the Alaskan coast or Antarctica.
Really, I think the cruises shown are selling the illusion of wealth to people who don’t really have it.
I worked as a SCUBA instructor for a number of years in the Whitsunday Islands in Australia, where our daily reef tour boat was regularly chartered to meet visiting cruise ships and take a bunch of their passengers to the outer coral reef for the day. My boss referred to cruise ship passengers as "The newly-wed, the over-fed, and the nearly-dead" - a dead-on observation :)
Boomer here. No cruise ships. No casinos. No amusement parks. Ugh!
so basically for the passengers, a Caribbean cruise is a way to microdose imperialism, but the cruiseline is taking a Heroic dose
well put.
It's easy to say that when most people who take cruises are just your average John or Jane doe with limited funds or PTO and want to see the world in a limited amount of time
What if a cruise around stricly western nations?@@WisecrackEDU
@@K1ng1995Two wrongs don't make a right. The average Joe needs to strive to be above average. We all need to do better, or else we won't have a future.
@@K1ng1995 idk what you want from me man. maybe impoverished nations deserve better than to hinge their economies on providing Service Industry comfort to the worst kinds of people.
Former cruise ship worker - nailed it!
Next time talk about the modern form of slavery in service with 3rd world populations at the whim of rich tourists and the inherent racism that and the tier based class system of shiplife
Idk if you’d like it, but there is kind of a show that talks about this. It’s called “White Lotus”, and basically follows rich tourists in various areas, and the workers, especially natives, who have to deal with them. The richies are clearly not good people, and it has Jennifer Coolage in it.
go away moron, it sounds like a tough job but dam, how spoiled are we that this is a bad problem. socialism sucks and so do you.
your a moron, absolutely, the cruise lines probably barely get by. yes costa concordial would have been better off hiring crew only from Italy who speak the language. everything is about nor breaking the bank or staying int he red, you had to see that while on that ship. economies of scale, trust, let Joe Biden and the economy shift and those evil cruisers will forking vanish like a fart in the wind. everything is delicate, everyone was a stolen land of someone else, get the fork over it.
@@ErutaniaRose exactly, that film triangle of sadness nailed that also
Our people built our great nations from scratch. These 3rd world workers and their people can do it too. They are already getting a tremendous boost to their economy from having first world jobs available to them and they still can't build their country. But hey if it's so terrible maybe we should just kill the cruise industry and not employ them at all. Then they can really build their country all on their own.
Inb4 "your nations used slavery." Yeah, ALL nations used slavery. 3rd world nations used it just as much if not more than 1st world nations. It was the 1st world nations that realized it was bad and fought a series of bloody wars to end it. My people literally died to end slavery not just in their own nations, but abroad too. So don't even start.
As a Caribbean person trapped here with little opportunity (except in hospitality) listening to this feels like a bad dream. They're building a hotel close to me that's going to rely on the already limited water resources. Not to mention we're already feeling the consequences of global warming 💀
Have you considered pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Get a small loan of a million dollars from your father and start a company. Get that bread!
@@milkdrinker7 yes lol
Regular people in the US got your back. We will all make it, somehow and some way.
How is your internet infrastructure there?
I know it's not a systemic solution, but maybe it can help one or a few people. You or any of your friends want to learn to code? I'll tutor and mentor you at no cost to try and help out. Would need to figure out how often, for how much time, and till when, but it's the best way I can think of to help out. Other suggestions appreciated
@@DictatorDraco Our connection here is fairly good. I'm actually doing Harvard's CS50 course atm but I'm definitely open to more conversation. You'll let me know how to contact you
I went to the Bahamas (but not on a cruise) and the seething resentment towards tourists underneath the smiles was palpable from the locals. But I got out of the bubble and went to a restaurant far beyond the tourist areas. Fantastic meal.
and the resentment is the problem and why the "local" will be the losers of history.....
Ironically the tourist areas are being bought up and cordoned off so the tourists generally just see themselves.
So what do the locals have on their own to attract any one to see?
Tourism is a necessary evil.
Many Caribbean islands depend on them.
I just wish it was somehow less exploitative and tourists weren't as insufferable.
@@michaels.starnes194 loool that why you go out as a tourist in the first place! 😂
I know, most of this cruise ships are mostly tailored for the average american to be baby sitted and idealizing a fake caribbean lifestyle
Ive seen similar stuff in Mexico's beaches/hotels made for americans. These are made for idealizing the caribbean lifestyle.. all wrapped in a bubble. You can go out and explore a local museum , or local crafts ( actually any latin american is great) locally made .. but if you dont step outside this gigantic fake bubble obviously you wont see the real place - insert any local place/beach/country that you just stepped a few feet away fromthe cruise ships -
I understand for americans everything needs to be babyfed, even tourism needs to be fake or glorified. You would surprise if you step out a bit further from the cruise ship tourist traps basically...
Bill Burr should’ve gotten a screenwriting credit for inspiring Triangle of Sadness with his bit about cruises
My favorite Bill Burr bit is functional psychos and punching muffins.
Nah, Bill Burr is an overrated hack.
I’ve never understood the appeal of Mickey Mouse tourism. Visiting impoverished regions of the world and shielding yourself from those realities is just strange.
Congrats! You're not a NPC
Not everyone wants to have diarrhea and get mugged while on vacation.
I’ve never been on a cruise. i’m shocked that they do such things as create a DMZ for their tourists. If you want to stay on the boat then you can stay on the boat, why make the stops just like being on the boat. What madness.
What you don't understand? Middle class people from stronger currency countries visiting beautiful beaches for parties, food, waiter services, sexual tourism and everything else they couldn't afford at home but can afford in socialist countries because people there were stupid to elect populist leaders who devaluated their currency?
They're in for these things, not to see how single mothers can't afford feeding her 5 children. Not their problem, not their fault.
Married Couples will do anything for their entertainment...
These floating cities have always been the symbol I point to of our dystopian, consumerist, capitalist societies. There has been nothing historically from the most powerful dynasties that have even come close to matching it. It's absolutely nuts.
Are you just mad because you can’t even afford an interior stateroom on the cheapest carnival 2 day cruise? It’s ok, just keep complaining about capitalism enough and you’ll be rich too someday! 🤗
@@davemccage7918 How did you guess?
@@josephde-haan1074 Because 99% of people that complain about capitalism lack there own capital (ie. are broke) and the remaining 1% are grifters and politicians that want to increase their own wealth and power by pandering sad boy commie ideals.
True! Why I rather deal with reality than escape on a cruise in the ocean. Make it better at home than party it up for a few days having everything to your touch.
Maybe cruises should be shut down
"The person that avoids reality by listening to podcasts." I feel called out. I don't know if I keep watching.
This is me so I get it.
I don’t avoid reality - but after my most recent self deletion attempt I’ve been focusing on podcasts to keep the bad thoughts away. When my ex husband walked out on me and i tried to self delete, the only thing that made me forget about my shitty life is was podcasts 24/7. Got me through some rough times. Now that I’ve discovered cruising I’m doing much better. Cruising genuinely saved my life. Wouldn’t be here without it as i love travel but can’t afford hotels or restaurants. Did an MSC 11 day cruise recently for $600 out the door all inclusive. Versus a hotel is at least $200-300 a night anywhere in a big city.
That's fair.
It's an overrated generational trend. I have never listened to a podcast and will never. That's TV garbage transformened to a new format.
You guys know this channel is also distributed a pod cast, right?
Just kidding, but seriously, it’s not the format that matters. If you are trying to defend your mistake right now, stop, take a deep breath, and realize we’re all just human. It’s okay.
We've become such a boring, lazy, oblivious, empty society.
Thanks Boomers.
@@cassiusdhami9215remember to learn. Not to blame, we'll have our time but if we don't learn ourselves we fail
You only say that because you somehow escape the intricacies of it.
Drones...
@@bobtaylor170nobody is talking about you pal, you’re not the center of attention.
You need to do a part 2 that talks about the cruise lines hiring practices. Like how they recruit housekeeping staff from the Philippines- only. Or how the entertainment staff are hired from the US and UK - only. There is an entire caste system below decks.
i once saw someone talk about a similar pseudo-caste system in hospitals. the doctors skew white, the doctors' assistants skew east asian, the janitorial staff skews latino, and the culinary staff skews black. emphasis was placed on how often each group was seen by patients
No the singers have to speak llanguage of the passengers, wow your reachhing around so far giving yourself a reach around, this is retarded logic.
Umm, that’s probably because being an entertainer for English speaking guests is kinda hard when you don’t speak English. Meanwhile folding sheets doesn’t require it.
True, but a large majority of the entertainment staff don't speak. They are dancing or playing instruments.
@@patgriffith9176 cool. and reminder the pandemic nearly killed the cruise liner industry,
As a traveler, I think cruiseships are sort of a travel-wannabe. Not daring to take an inch out of the comfort zone or their country, but 'traveling'. I did and enjoyed a cruise ship once (invited by a friend) and I absolutely loved all the 'enchanted world" feeling, but 'traveling' is something else, opening the mind, learning, and way more than walking a fake town. I wish cruiseship passengers wouldn't replace (or confuse) traveling with going on a cruiseship. Thank you Wisecrack! Brilliant as usual!
I do both. Please get off you high horse.
@@jchris333 She also said that she's done both, and is encouraging people that only cruise to do both. If you have a problem with that and feel the need to try to shame her for stating a valid opinion, then it looks like you're the one up there on that horse.
Yep, traveling like Ibn Batuta or Marco Polo is very different than what people do today, especially a cruise. Edit: Actually, Ibn Batuta might be kind of a counter example because in many cases he did stick close to wealthy Muslims even when going to China or Africa.
Exactly!!, I've been to 3 cruise ships but to me that isn't an Authentic Traveling Experience.
You know most people get on cruise ships because it's affordable. I would have never been able to afford going to go to three different locations in one trip any other way.
The U.S. simply improving healthcare could aid in making this industry less significant.
My Dad says he might live on a cruise if it ever gets to a point that he would consider a retirement home because it would be way more enjoyable on a cruise than a retirement home and also CHEAPER because the U.S. is so sadastic with healthcare/adjacent services
I took a cruise last year with a group of friends, and I noticed quite a bit of the grey hair set camping out on board. They didn't do excursions, they didn't do shopping or most of the entertainment, and they were there because unlike a US "assisted living" community, the cruise ship was affordable. The cruise offered meals, laundry, room cleaning, and minor medical services with the price of a cabin. They talked about how cruise ships were a better bargain than assisted living on land and the staff was much friendlier. I don't blame them, but cruises take a hell of an environmental toll just to house people that could easily be helped on land if only the US population would wake the hell up to how much of their money goes toward wars and death and NOT actual quality of living.
@@wwaitkusthis is my retirement plan as well. I agree it’s not ideal but neither is rotting in a nursing home. I don’t really have any close friends or family and don’t want to be alone in my elder years.
Yaaaaaa.
@@wwaitkusExactly. The US needs to actually start caring for citizens instead of forcing them into environmentally damaging options and acting all fascist. Spending more money on bombs than any social service is so fucked.
Edit: No I’m not saying pushing citizens into cruises is fascist. I’m saying in addition to it, there are systems built to fail us because they focus more on funding and supporting more fascist projects like the prison industrial complex, like imperial force through our military, like pushing nationalism, like so many things. People having to choose this option and not having good social systems is a byproduct of the US focusing on doing other things, many of which have fascist tendencies. Just look at our military, just look at Trump, just look at how we exploit other countries and still rely on slavery.
@@ErutaniaRoseI dont think you know the meaning of the words youre using, search what fascism means.
"Pave paradise and put up a parking lot"
*Jay of Kevin Smith Films takes up permanent residence in each parking lot, constantly doing the Buffalo Bill thing*
"They took all the trees put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged the people a dollar an' a half just to see 'em"
@@sandythemaster6898 Sadly, that's relatively cheap for a museum
@@axdillingham6658relatively cheap??? All museums I’ve been to in my life have had an entry fee of about $40-$60 per person. A dollar and a half is crazy
@@Jasondurgen museums are free in England, come and see all the shit that our overlords got us to steal
I'm from the Caribbean, while my entire island is relatively safe this is only because it pretty small. That said this is 100% on point.
As a late Boomer I went on 3 Caribbean cruises in the 1910s and this all looks accurate. I eventually learned that all shore excursions were a racket, one time going on a 2-hour drive to a fucking gift shop that had an okay view from a balcony -- that you had to walk through the giftshop to get to (followed by another 2-hour drive back to the ship). Shopping, poolside, eating, and drinking -- all excessive and manipulative only to find out that the crew typically works 12-hour days and depend on gratuities from departing passengers to earn barely decent wages. I would never do it again.
In the 1910s? So over a century ago? Lol
@@LisaAnn777lmao dude is a BOOMER’S boomer
So how was the titanic?
What a heap of bull.
Working on a cruise ship is usually much better pay for these people than what they normally would earn with better conditions, too.
Many in fact get kicked off, because they usually try to scam the passengers (happened to my mother). So don't think these people are innocent angels being molested.
Mr. Burns? Is that you?
This dichotomy was really brought home for me way back in 1999, when I traveled to Istanbul with my brother, and an elderly couple we knew well were on a Mediterranean cruise that happened to dock in Istanbul during our stay. Whereas my brother and I went as local as we could, e.g. taking the commuter tram and eating at restaurants favored by locals, our friends were stuck in a little enclave of sorts in which every employee spoke perfect English, restaurants served familiar American food, and everything was pristine and spotless. Of course, the enclave was surrounded by prison-level high fences and barbed wire, and cruise travelers were discouraged from stepping foot outside. Aside from a day trip we took them on through the city, they experienced nothing that was unfamiliar to them. It was essentially the equivalent of just staying home in the USA, watching a documentary on Istanbul, and ordering takeout.
Right. It's not traveling. It's for yuppies who want everyone to THINK they have a ton of money. Nothing would scare and bore me more than a cruise.
Old, retired people don't want to deal with the locals and I don't blame then. They have been there and done that, they don't need to buy from the Istanbul seller that plays silly games with their ice cream ffs.
@@RogueReplicant That may be, but it’s pretty straightforward for a traveler in most places, in my experience, to see and experience the local culture and experience beneath the tourist-facing veneer. I’ve done so everywhere I’ve been. What I think more likely is that most people, at least most Americans, are comfortable with the familiar and apprehensive about the unfamiliar. Digging deeper requires learning a bit of the local language, getting to know locals, and going off of the beaten path.
I’ve done a few cruises in the past, and I’ve got to say, i agree with a lot of this video. It quickly became clear that any time we spent on the islands was “scripted”. I actually made notes of some of the islands that I’d like to fly back to and spend more time on, so I could see more of the actual culture but then, ya know, I had to make sure i could afford groceries.
Another thing that shows the influence of the cruise lines on the islands is that the “locally made” items like bracelets and necklaces just so happen to be on every excursion.
Cruises are fun, but man there’s a ton of negative aspects that just make it hard to be comfortable with.
I'm going on the 7000 Tons of Metal Cruise its a heavy metal cruise gonna see some of my favorite bands 🤟🤘
@@K1ng1995man that sounds awesome
The locals have horrific mindsets, it's not the cruisers fault.....
@@steve19811 What does this even mean?
Yeah. Last fellow I dated insisted we would go on a cruise. "Oh HELL no! You aren't getting me on a giant sewer in the sea." 😂
My friends also got mad at me for saying that I had hoped the Irish antagonist of the Downton Abbey movie would have succeeded in killing the king.
Yeah people get pretty mad when you're pro-terrorist.
@@django4013British empire largest terrorist and drug dealers of all time. They exported opiates to China.
"you made the fires worse!"
"...worse, or better?" 🔥🔥🔥
From now on, Michael should do all Wisecrack videos with a Hawaiian shirt, a hat, and a margarita glass in his and.
I'm a Gen Xer that had absolutely no desire to ever go on a cruise, in fact it was never on my radar period. But in 2016 the family put a lot of pressure to do a first whole (but small) family vacation ever, and with my mother in a wheelchair, most thought a cruise would be ideal. I insisted that I didn't want to go to anywhere hot, so we settled on Alaska. Wife & I loved it so much more than expected, that we did a new England/Canada cruise on our own in 2018. Of course, the same problems of the impact of ships is probably close to the same, although my perception is that Holland America, which we took both cruises seem to be more sustainable being much smaller ships without crazy stuff like roller coasters, etc. That, combined with the ports all being US & Canadian, isn't that quite a bit better? I really would love to know.
I never was interested in a cruise. Then my extended family wanted to gather everyone ( most were in NY state)for a vacation together. I flew in and joined them for a cruise on Holland America to Bermuda. It was a small ship, not geared for crazy partying and noisy kid rides. It was ideal for parents to have adult time because there was a club for teens , another for younger kids, lots of supervision. We met for meals, walks around the deck, playing board games.
No one had to worry about cooking, cleaning, babysitting, laundry. In Bermuda we took the buses around the island together, explored the beaches and museums, walked a lot. Overall, for such a low price, it was a good experience.
Cruise ships employ a lot of musicians, actors and other stage workers - invaluable experience. And Holland America had a group of performers drawn from their crew who would share their various cultures. They make it possible for them to study other languages, to learn other aspects of hospitality to advance their careers.
My friends like to get last-minute cruises to Alaska from Seattle. It’s far cheaper than flights, staying in hotels and going to restaurants.
@@LilyGazouyeah done right depending on destination and ship size ect they have some good points as you say ,giving performer's and artists reasonably work and opportunities that may otherwise not got ,and cruises to places like Alaska make a lot of sense
Yeah this is probably the only way I'd do it. Same with Antarctica or something weird like that. Good post.
Weird how everytime the question is "But how are they racking in so much money?", the phrase "avoids paying their taxes in the US" comes up.
Anyway, on an unrelated note, I sure wish we could do UBI here in the US, too bad we'll NEVER figure out how to fund that!
Starving is cheaper. Even if it cost like 2 bucks to make insulin, if it isn't sold for $200, it wouldn't be capitalism
For real, we need UBI. Tho I think it should be based more on equity, since some people need more money to survive than others, especially the disabled who require assistance tools, meds, etc.
And personally I love taxes, tho I hate paying them in the US because they fund war mostly. I know there are always gonna be things people, don’t always agree on their taxes being paid for, duh, but when we pay taxes and see basically little to no quality of life brought back through those funds, it’s gross.
its crazy how we handwring about how to fund anything that might benefit Americans, but can call emergency sessions of congress to pass another bill to send a couple billion dollars to Israel
Abolish inheritance, personal wealth caps under 10 mil, astronomically higher fines for creating public hazards (eg corporate/industrial waste, more automated traffic behavior registering, etc)...defundinf the military can finance most other reforms (eg education spending)
@@alexanderwerewitch True.
Regarding the pollution factor, when these massive cruise ships pull into a port, they keep their engines running during the entire stay and literally gas the local population. A few years back, there was a big lawsuit over the cruise companies' liability for a massive increase in cancer cases in Marseille, a major port of call.
God this is horrifying
they reallly have no other options as none of the ports are capable of shore power yet all it carnivals ships are 10 years behind the curve when it comes to shore power capabilities
This is entirely false. Modern cruise ships don't even rely on polluting energy. You are misinformed and just a hater.
You can do somtsing abott: Form a German Newspaper:
New shore power system at Steinwerder cruise terminal
Status: 22.12.2023 15:49 hrs
Powerful electricity instead of marine diesel: the air in the Port of Hamburg could soon be a little cleaner. Because there is a new shore power system at the Steinwerder cruise terminal.
Cruise ships are like a floating city - and their hunger for energy is correspondingly great. At the Steinwerder cruise terminal, this hunger for energy can now be satisfied with high voltage electricity. Hamburg has had experience of this since 2017: the first shore-side power plant went into operation in Altona six years ago.
Cruise ships to be supplied with green electricity
There was initially a lot of criticism of this system, as only a few cruise ships were able to use it. According to the Hamburg Economic Authority, this has now changed: In the coming year, it expects the majority of cruise ships to be supplied with green electricity while docked in the Port of Hamburg. At the Steinwerder terminal, ships are expected to use renewable energy from land for 140 calls in the coming year. In Altona, a further 40 calls are also firmly planned for a shore-side power supply.
Regular operation of the shore power system planned for 2024
This could save many tons of diesel that were previously used for the power supply on board. The new system at the Steinwerder cruise terminal is already in test operation and is scheduled to go into regular operation at the beginning of next year.
Stop Complainig
Wow, this is eerily appropriate. My parents just got back from a cruise they took in Japan. They were going on about all the negative things they experienced like the limited amount of info about the places they stopped to check out coz they wanted you to do their paid tour and everything on the boat you had to pay extra “even tho it said it was all meant to be included, but apparently that was the premium package” and the quality of the staff and historians, etc.,, I wanted to say that’s because this is late stage capitalism and going on cruises and tours without even learning anything about the local cultures is so colonialist. Then I see your video just hours later and I feel so emboldened of my opinions!
Lol that's a bit "Yugen" good for you :)
Late stage capitalism? Colonialist?
Buddy, it's time to get out of the Communist brainwash bubble
This doesn't even go into the safety concerns of cruises, for both passengers and crew. I've heard so many horror stories, I never want to ever go on one
Micheal outside of his office?? He finally touching gras- oh wait that's a green screen 😞
Touching green screen.
Meh, if he was actually on a cruise. The grass would be artificial regardless... Just like the culture on the cruise itself.
Well at least they're both green
@@WisecrackEDU IT'S JUST AS GOOD!
(this message paid for by the green screen manufacturers guild)
@@WisecrackEDUA green screen can be anything. It's like the Willy Wonka of backgrounds.
It could be grass... or it could be the distressing and traumatic tunnel scene that that majority of actors were not aware of and is in no way fitting the tone of the movie or original book.
"Pure imagination"
The irony being that the ONE cruise ship that's flag of convince is the U.S. therefore following the U.S. labor laws, ended up being one of the least popular cruise ships...
Finally, I can spend hundreds of dollars to catch the flu on my way to different Rainforest Cafes.
😂
I understand the reasoning that a ship would wait for a large group but not a few people that don't make it back to port. At the same time, it feels like another twist of the knife on the local economies that on almost every list of important things to remember about going on a cruise, there's always "Do not book anything locally or you'll risk being left behind if you get a flat tire or get caught in traffic. ONLY go on the official excursions offered by the cruise line."
Just wondering: Do cruise ship crews keep precise tabs on who leaves and returns to the ship? If not, I could imagine that quite a few people simply disappear, one way or another.
@alannothnagle pretty much its a quick like check using the tickets. Since they would at a bare minimum know who is supposed to be on the ship. Modern day technology makes that part pretty easy at least
@@alannothnagle every time you disembark at a port the crew at the door list your name and take a photo. When you return they check the list and take another photo to prove your status.
@@dant.3505 A wise precaution. Otherwise, that would be a tempting way for people to disappear, or else to „disappear“ someone else.
Love the support for the Irish on the Crown, lol. Once I was drunk at a party and allegedly (I have a very fuzzy memory of it) when Zombie by Cranberries started playing I threw a chair and started screaming "free Ireland, fuck the UK!" and that's how I learned my convictions run really deep.
I think we'd be friends as that's something that a younger me absolutely would've done.
Last Resorts: The Cost of Tourism in the Caribbean. This is a great accompanying read for this subject. It's by the aforementioned Polly Patullo.
My coworker who loves cruises was telling me how she was yelling at a store clerk who didn't know what a bra was. I just politely nodded and kept my mouth shut even though I wanted to tell her she should be more considerate of their situation
What is their situation?
Why didn't you call her out to her face
On my first and only cruise in 2023 Grand Turk was the only destination that allowed passengers to see the rest of the island. It had been severely damaged by hurricane Fiona and our taxi driver talked about the swath of destroyed buildings essentially being left to rot because there was nothing they could do. Decaying buildings just out of the view of the pristine Margaritaville and Starbucks.
The Turks and Caicos national museum is fantastic, by the way. Stop by it if you’re in the area.
“Why isn’t anyone regulating these things?” Lol, there are like 2 millennials/zoomers in congress, zero in the senate, they are all boomers or geriatrics…
The title is confusing. Boomers didn't invent cruise ships or make it pop off. It was their grandparents and parents who laid the ground work.
As with lots of things we blame the boomers for
Yes...the so called greatest generation got all this going.
I think this might be your best video yet. It covers so many topics that are all encompassing and concentrated in this.
I wish the people with their heads in the sand could see it. I'm only 42 and I've already mostly given up on changing anything ...
(this fight has been my whole life...I even hated the Reagans when I was a kid)
... so God knows the boomers have totally given up on caring.
I'm so sorry to the kids. That's part of why I didn't have any. So much destruction in so little time. There's going to be a massive layer of plastic in our brief history for future alien archaeologist to find. It's so embarrassing
I recently went on a cruise as "not a boomer", thinking I'd try it out before judging it. I visited towns which looked staged, places where you could not find a "regular" grocery store or things locals actually would use. I saw stores dangling mostly made-in-china goods which had arrived there on similarly large ships. I kept thinking of how poorly paid and/or overworked the staff probably is (considering how almost the entire crew was from Philippines or Vietnam), and how little I had spent on each port, on the local economies I passed through. Sitting on a hot tub with a cold beer in hand, as I watched the slightly dark haze of the engine smoke over my head, I could not shake the thought of how much pollution this week long endeavor had created.
I usually like to travel by backpacking, spending my money on the least tourist-trap looking locations, restaurants and shops, buying local everywhere I go. I had no incentive to buy local on the ports of my cruise, as nothing anywhere near the ports was actually local. I felt like I was indulging in luxurious meals and drinks while spitting on the world, and as I chatted with others who said this was their ##th cruise I wondered just how much would you have to ignore, or how little you had to care about the world to actually enjoy "cruise life". Cruising is the epitome of giving the world the middle finger.
The wages they get are pretty good, especially compared to the place they are from.
Yeah. The most wasteful, filthy, and inefficient transport ever nightmared up. 😢 I DID hear they just dump their raw sewage everywhere they go. How disgusting a visitor could one be, to crap on someone else's beaches? 🤮
@@Mayhzon "They get paid slightly more than poverty rates" is not really the flex you think it is. It's still exploitation, using the promise of having slightly more than starvation wages. It's the creation of a racial underclass and the stratification of the labor market. If you're wondering why "socialism" is becoming more popular in America, maybe think about what good has capitalism and the "trickle down" economics done for most people?
@@AshleySpeaks4U Westerners crapping on the lands of developing countries to extract all their wealth through neo colonialist capitalism is literally just business as usual though. Instead of corporate armies pointing guns, it's a complex global system of markets put in place to keep them dependent on first world nations (their former colonizers).
@@AshleySpeaks4U there is a documentary that shows how the ships work- the arrival and inspection of produce, the trucks that come to take the sewage to a treatment plant, the refreshing of the water tanks, unloading luggage, doing laundry, cleaning, etc. They have to do all this in a limited period of time before the next cruise starts.
It’s on RUclips.
Consumption as identity: you are what you eat
So if I start eating the rich, will that make me rich?
@@yautl1 No, that would make you a Bolshevist and just another type of extremist.
A better life lies somewhere else, without excessive consumption, but also without the misery Communist ideals bring. Just a good traditional family life, filled with empathy and all the necessities covered. That's a better world.
And yes, I know it was a joke. But some people might take your comment at face value lol.
@@Mayhzon Nah I'm serious. No point letting perfectly good corpses go to waste.
"Consumption as identity: you are what you eat"
That explains why so many of the Boomers in this video look like fat sacks of cr*p.
@@Mayhzon lol I can tell you're a right winger just by how media illiterate you are. all of you are like this. so ignorant of your world and society. every attempt to level the playing field is "communism" and "brutal stalinism," but everything that funnels wealth from the poor to the billionaire class is just "freedom." i can tell how little you read actual books and primary sources, and how much you consume media through TV and online propaganda like Prager U or Daily Wire types.
Mike is getting increasingly revolutionary and I'm here for it
Yeah given how little has changed in the last few decades, despite obvious evidence of how trickle down economics literally gives a trickle of wealth to the bottom 90%, it's no surprise how the only way out of this mess is to have revolutionary ideas.
I was able to go to a carnival cruise with my old man when I was younger and it was quite the experience. My first time in such an environment full of endless pleasure, where I could eat, drink, and be merry without a single care. True excess. I can see how it can make someone addicted. I can also see how rich folks get addicted to it and this was only 1/100 of the experience. The destinations trump the on ship experience though, yet I did feel that we were sheltered. Me and my dad made it a point to leave the boundaries of the touristy areas and explore and that made the trip much better. I could then finally say that I've been to another country, especially one I had roots in. I'm glad I experienced a cruise but I'd rather a trip that's fulfilling spiritually and emotionally, not just in unrestrained pleasure. You can do better without participating in such a destructive system of tourism.
There are smaller ships that specialize in history and archaeology- with talks and tours by experts.
Growing up in Ireland in the 90s & 00s, it was really rare to hear of someone going on a cruise.
And you’d always know they were a bunch of knobs if they did.
Lusitania?
Gen X'er here... Been on a few cruises, but mostly because I hate flying. Cruising is a strange experience. It provides a frontrow seat to the bovine nature of American tourism. And I think it is fair to say that the younger cruisers tend to be better ambassadors when on-ship and in ports (when sober, at least) while Boomers tend to come across as demanding and entitled. The critique about the ships and ports being gentrified is absolutely correct. You don't really visit the Bahamas, for example, you visit the small section cordoned off for commercial consumption, and must be back on the ship long before the illusion is shattered.
I’m 61 and the closest I’ll get to a cruise is paddling my local creeks in my $200 kayak, mixing up bloody marys as we go.
Glorious lol, thats amazing.
Americans fear leaving their bubbles so they stay in the cruise controlled areas.
Real cruisers hop on local transportation and enjoy the country
The situation you're describing applies to almost every tourist destination in developing countries, especially in Africa and North Africa. Tourists are often encouraged to avoid interacting with locals and to stay within a stress-free bubble. However, it's not all negative - this situation also creates indirect economic opportunities and jobs. The economy is fragile, but that's the reality.
Wrong. It restricts the opportunities only to a select section of locals who are then exploited due to their desperation for higher paying jobs. How about these benefits stop being funneled out of those countries and be used to uplift the entire local economy? The ruthless competition of capitalism doesn't actually help, it only hurts those who don't have existing infrastructure or built-in advantages that a multinational megacorporation has. The cruise line can still profit off shuttling white entitled people around. They will just have to share some of it now with the people of the countries they want to land in. Maybe by allowing more locals to benefit from the economic opportunities of tourism, there wouldn't be so much hostility, and more tourists would actually want to venture into the city and interact more with the locals, rather than eating at the same fucking mcdonald's every time?
I never understood the appeal of cruises. You're stuck in a boat with limited people and options of entertainment, paying extra because of it.
Boomer here. Never been on a cruise because I can't stand the idea of being crowded together with hundreds of other people in a small space.
If I was forced onto a cruise, I'd probably hide in my room watching TV most of the time.
I liked this episode, it explains a lot. I find cruises fascinating. They look like social experiments. It makes me think that the environment they create inside these ships could inspire the design of Lunar or Mars colonies. I like to see the shared spaces, the amenities, the activities to keep the passengers entertained. Some YT channels that talk about cruising say that they sometimes dont see the sea that much. One ship had ceiling of the main hall showing moving whales on a blue screen. A space station could create a blue sky to mimic a real sky.
However contrary to a cruise ship, a space station has to produce it's own food and recycle waste. A space station would require everybody to participate in the community and work toward it's improvement and safety.
A space station or moon base/colony will not be akin to a cruise ship. Far from it. Those are going to be places of research and scientific exploration. It's funny how so Americanized your mindset is that you prioritize and project vacation, consumerist fantasies, over actual educational objectives, the pursuit of knowledge, and the betterment of humanity. Cruise vacations are the literal antithesis of those values. It's no wonder America has the literal worst public education system and has the dumbest, least educated population in all developed, post industrialized nations. Well you don't even need to look at stats such as those. Just a short look at who you elect to office tells us everything we need to know about how terrible and trashy Americans truly are. If rich people think space vacation is going to be a thing, boy are they in for a very rude awakening. Them thinking that space is a place to relax and escape the "dirty" poor people they will create due to their climate change inducing practices, rather than an empty void that actively tries to find infinite ways to kill and suffocate you, will result in the greatest act of karma possible.
As a Dominican, the Trujillo connection left me in shock the entire video. He also turned accepting Jewish immigrants during WW2 into a business
The depths of that man's putrid soul cannot be fully expressed by words, but this quote summarizes his end "The ballot or the bullet"
I found this especially funny cause I just booked an Afro cruise from Sweden to Estonia…the irony is not lost on me (I’m Nigerian and more than 80% of the passengers are of African descent)
i’ve been on a few cruises and actually always hated the experience of the ports. they were obviously catered to cruise tourism and i tried really hard to venture out a bit to eat and shop at local businesses. when we got to st. maarten, i asked someone where i could get a good local meal, and they pointed me to a restaurant on the pier. i said “no, literally local, like something you would make.” he looked at me like i was a strange creature, talked me through the walk i should take, and i ended up at a little house with a home cooked meal for $3. everyone seemed incredibly grateful that i ventured out the tourist trap to support them instead. that day opened my eyes a bit.
killer topic! and look at that runtime! excited to watch
A lot of over generalization going on here with assertions such as all boomers are greedy and just want tax cuts.
The Crown is just a villain origin story for a big part of the world which hates The British Empire and English Royals
I think big part is an understatement...like 94% of existing countries hate the British empire😂 they weren't good at making friends of the locals during colonialization
@@warren1078 I'm not arguing that it's right, but a lot of "normal" people I've met seem to think of the British empire as quaint and vaguely silly, outside of countries like Ireland with current or recent anti-imperialist struggles against the British empire. Even Afghani and Indian people I've met will be like "cup of tea sir? hehehe" and I'll be like ??? - I'm thinking of people with both middle class and working class backgrounds
@@TheCalmack Yeah, I'd say that's a fair assessment. Before I got super into history that was more or less my mental image of them
@@TheCalmackyea there's a difference between hating what the empire did and hating the current UK population or the contemporary frivolous tourist-identity Royalty.
@@rickwrites2612 that's true!
Beware of anything Carnival Cruise Lines out of Miami---Carnival keeps lowering cruise prices for unsold cabins as cruise date nears. Carnival has become Compton at Sea.
I have sailed a yacht loaded with friends from one side of the Mediterranean to the other.
I am going on a Mediterranean cruise in July so I don’t have to worry about everyone having a nice time. And to feel superior to all the other passengers who are seeing the ports for the first time, which of course are not the best ports, but I can over explain this during the course of 7 days.
The cruise is cheaper than chartering and provisioning a yacht and saves the time and stress associated with trying to dock while drunk.
I've never been on a cruise, but I used to work on a tourist boat that rendezvoused regularly with visiting cruise ships. From what I've seen, cruise ship holidays seem to involve a lot of time standing in queues. Having also done the bareboat charter thing, I'd say give me my own boat and a few choice friends in a magical location anytime! That said, I definitely hear you on the burden of being skipper ... sleeping lightly all night worrying about whether you might be dragging anchor, or being kept awake by every single *thud* of a mooring buoy down the side of your hull on a breezy night** are less attractive parts of the whole experience.
** If you're a mono sailor exclusively, the mooring buoy *thud* *thud* *thud* down the inside of a hull is a catamaran-specific experience: they sail around on their moorings just from the windage on the hulls and coach house.
The Boomers, the generation older than me, like the cruise idea because they aren’t the most independently mobile group anymore. They need catering and controlled areas as they aren’t of an age to be the adventurous explorers of their youth when they had no available cash and sunk everything into supporting their families.
Thank you for confirming that I have no desire ever to go on a cruise. A big part of what I enjoy when I travel is getting to know some of the local people and supporting as many small businesses as I can.
This is a good accompanying essay to Hassan Minhaj’s episode of Patriot Act. Probably could have mentioned him.
As a sheltered American who aspires to travel more, I've always felt grossed out by the idea of cruises. I've never understood why I felt this way, but you helped me understand. There's basically nothing on a cruise ship itself that you can't experience back at home. It would feel no different than spending a week at a luxury resort in my home country, surrounded by my own people.
EPIC video! Thanks! And cruise ships are so much fun🎉🎉🎉
This was exceptionally well-researched and written. Great work, Amanda!!
Hedonistic individuals and generations give us younger ones perfect examples of how not to be. Hopefully we all learn the proper lessons to change things. The one thing that gives me hope is that no one lives forever. As long as we younger souls learn how terrible it is to be that way? We can look forward to eventually having a better and fairer world one day. Keh, it just hit me that I'm not the only one having to clean up after my parents... A great number of us are stuck cleaning up the disgusting messes of those who came before us. Guess it's time to roll up or sleeves, right everyone!? Let's do this! 💪
Very nice episode. First time seeing a video from this channel and I'm impressed.
14:56 Thanks for the shoutout!
one of the bests wisecracks videos
Cruise to Ensanada, Mexico in 2000 and HATED IT. Loved getting to land and riding horses, but hated being seasick, hated being confined, hated never being away from people unless I was in my tiny cabin, hated the dumb entertainment, hated the creeps on deck after dark, hated hated hated it
As bad as I wanna go on a cruise… Imma watch
I cruise 2x a decade to unplug, sleep in total darkness, and be a blob. But I get in random people's cars and see the real city tho. The "safe" piers are for scaredy cats. But I'm a cis male, so no shade to those who identify as women. It's a tough world out there be safe.
Cruises are weird ….assuming you’re not taking a super small but also extremely expensive boat… it’s just a shitload of brown ppl who you know aren’t getting paid well waiting on you hand n foot. Like if you can get over THAT then idk how much the micro imperialism once u dock is gonna matter. (Also all that see the actual island shit is for the birds lol….like get some of the local food but ain’t nobody go on vacation to see real Jamaica/Barbados/DR/insert island here lol)
They are a lot of fun… a seriously guilty pleasure.
@@joshspoon "safe piers" aka racially segregated areas where the only people of color you see are exploited workers who probably earn 10% of the US federal minimum wage. I mean if this isn't literally what perfectly portrays what Apartheid South Africa was like, I don't even know...
loved this topic! Well put together and very entertaining as usual. Been loving your guy's stuff for years.
You guys should do a crossover with Abi Thorn from Philosophy Tube... just an idea but I would watch the hell outta that collaboration
She's amazing and we'd obviously love that.
Michael, I just can’t tell you how much I enjoy your weekly pieces. They are so interesting, so well-researched, and you, young man. You just have a terrific on-air presence. You’re extremely funny, very self-deprecating in a likable way… but also, when the subject calls for it, very angry. Do you know how hard it is, even all these years later, to find a smart person who says way out loud that Ronald Reagan was a borderline evil, dumb as a post, corrupt asshole who screwed over the regular folk every chance he got? (Uh-oh… there I go again)
I look forward to Wisecrack uploads every week. Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t let the suits hold you and your team down.
@25:45
That last bit really hit home. Just surviving these days is hard.
That's what happens when your main concern at the ballot box is open borders instead of your economic well-being.
I thought that this video was going to be about cruising. Boy, was I surprised.
As an avid hiker and outdoorsman I used to scoff at cruise ship vacationers and even RVers. Low and behold with the coercion of my wife, I have a toy hauler and RVed America 4 times Westcoast to Eastcoast. I have also been on 4 Royal Caribbean cruises and I ENJOYED all of them. I despise things like dining in public, going to motels and going to public events. This is partly due to the fact that you end up paying for service and its crap 😒. On all the cruises, EVERYONE working was enthusiasticly happy and helpful. Was it just a facade? I'm sure it was, but damned they are good actors and I enjoyed the benefits of a good positive experience. Props to management and logistics on these cruises. If only government ran so efficiently.
No shot! This video showed up literally an hour after I was planning a cruise for my Family Reunion!
Have fun!!!
Lol same for family members 50th wedding anniversary
Ew
That's how data sharing works
When he said the checkbox word(Colonialism), I barked like a seal and clapped my hands together, 10/10 would
Forgot patriarchy
My Gramdma could afford to do cruises when my Grandpa passed away and she downsized the property they owned.
I knew someone who worked as a childcare employee on cruises. They also had to do exotic dancing, and had a serious substance abuse issue.
These things make more sense after seeing this video.
I went on a cruise from Washington up to Alaska that was surprisingly fun. Much less of the stereotypical trappings of the Caribbean cruises, and theoretically less damaging to fledgling nations.
There was a great jam band music festival called Wanee I used to go to. The old timers would come in early and put up fold out chair all over the the lawn in front of the stage. Of course they can afford to get there early and grab all the good spots before most of the young working folks. Always irked me that they were "reserving" spots to sit in the front row where I would like to stand and watch. Your cruise ship chair story just reminded me of that.
Oh I hate those people at jam band shows.
We cordon off a dance area in front of the stage for festivals here.
I once took a train trip across Europe (I'm from the Netherlands) with the southern most destination being infamous cruise destination Dubrovnik, my hotel was next to the harbor. Somehow I enjoyed sitting on my hotel balcony watching 2 cruiseships a day dock/undock(?) with all the hustle and bustle that went with it.
Bro 🎉 epic video. FYI cruise ships are epic fun.
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I got an advert for cruise liners when I clicked on this video. No kidding.
[edit] AND I got another cruise-ship ad while watching it.
Algorithm bump for engagement❤
I'm a pre boomer who enjoys quiet cruising. I don't want a huge ship with all the circus attractions. Good food and service from friendly staff is important. Unusual, quirky port visits are preferred, but I enjoy relaxing on sea days. Alcohol can be a curse on board. A quiet drink is nice, but not the drunken fools we so often encounter nowadays.
Well done, I've always thought cruise ships were the epitome of evil, but I learned even more horrific stuff in this video.... Thx a lot :)
Epitome of evil?
You’ve never experienced a single hardship in your life have you?
Also as a solo if you are extremely lonely it can be a great way to meet people who share your hobbies. For example i love sports and met tons of nba fans on my birthday cruise this past week and we all exchanged info so now i have friends to chat basketball with!
Wisecrack on spotify? 5 stars great service
I used to work on RC and in the ‘safety’ training they told us to not worry too much about trying to save the passengers [in event of emergency] 😳
Blaming the boomers is stupid.
Wowowow. As someone who grew up in Miami Dade, this puts a lot into perspective…
Raise your hand if you're the person that avoids reality by constantly listening to podcasts/RUclips
*raises hand*
Yayyyy thank you for putting this on spotify! I usually use an ad blocker and feel bad about it but I pay for spotify so this is good! I can be legit supporting you a bit. 😂
Oh and Cruises are also super spreaders on the sea. They were talked about a lot during the start of Covid.
covid was pre planned and people were infected on purpose. for medical stocks to go up for the politicians who had already invested in them
Nice. A video that I can suggest to people that don't understand why I hate cruises. This covers most of it.👍
This is the Disneyfication of travel.