6 minutes seems like a long time to fill up a 35psi tire. How many tires can you inflate on a single charge? Edit: I'm not trying to take away from the great quality of your videos when I question sponsor stuff... I appreciate what you do, just always question social media sponsors. This was a great video, and excellent work!
A reasonably priced scope and a clamp on amp probe, can provide a super quick overview of an engines mechanical health via a relative compression test. As you likely well know…Of course I only mention this with the benefit of hindsight from your video. Fully appreciate you were only doing what you thought prudent. You got to the root cause of the issue quite quickly. Nice work. 🍻
These CR-Vs often burned valves due to never getting a valve adjustment. The exhaust valves were set a bit too tight from factory. There’s a TSB from Honda on this for the B20 engines.
@@rav4l2003 Definitely agree on likely not having had the valves adjusted. It happened on my turbocharged subaru too. That crappy engine used solid valve lifter, buckets, not hydraulic. In order to adjust the valves on that engine you have to measure the clearance and and figure out what replacement lifter/bucket thickness you need to give the right clearance. Of course I didn't realize this until after I determined I had a burnt valve.
Maybe checking the compression before doing all of the other work and parts replacement would have been a good idea? Would a valve job be our of the question? I guess they aren’t being done much these days?
Yeah the machine shop i use charges moe than a factory rebuilt head all said and done. So slapping a new head on is an option but cost more than its probably worth.
All of the recommendations made in the video are fine for helping prevent valve problems. The number one thing that was not mentioned at all is to check your valve lash and keep them adjusted properly. This is the number one reason valves get burnt. Exhaust valves get tight over time and need to be adjusted to keep them from being held open. Most of the time it is recommended to check and adjust if necessary every 100k miles. No reason you can't do it earlier though. A lot of the time the valve cover gasket will start leaking around the same time depending on how much the vehicle is driven. Excellent time to check them while you are replacing the valve cover gasket.
But how would you know that without first doing very basic tune-up stuff to eliminate the obvious. Rough idling can come from any number of things. I’ve never seen anyone pull out an engine inspection camera first before all else… Am I wrong?
I have been an auto technician on and off since 1992. Went thru a 3 year apprenticeship starting in 1993 thru a local junior college and the NCDA. It was pounded into our heads that you always do a compression test before attempting a tune up or any kinda driveability problem. Also why change fluids before fixing the rough running problem? Love your channel and your videos, not trying to bash you, just offering some free advice for next time.
When I did work experience with a mechanic in 1993 when I was 15 years old I noticed that the mechanics did a compression test before they did the tune up !
Recently I did a compression test 1st because I had a bad feeling and it was a regular customer but as a mechanic we need to charge for each test and most people don’t want to pay anything extra. A basic tune up on a 4 cylinder isn’t a money job so these need to be done as fast as possible. Tell the customer this is what it cost regardless if it fixes the issue or pay my diag fee 1st and then I’ll get you a quote for parts and labor.
Im gonna be honest you shoulda fixed the misfire before you did all that other work, but i gotta thank you for still posting the video is was a great video as usual. Keep up the good work.
Honda's need valve adjustments, at least most have solid lifters and need periodic lash adjustment. Usually intake valves loosen up over time, and exhaust valves recess into the head and tighten up. Exhaust valves that hang open for too long get hot and burn up. There is a saying "tappy valves are happy valves", which pertains more specifically to Honda's. Most people neglect this service and burn up their exhaust valves.
You think that cabin filter is bad, try replacing one on a Buick Verano or the last generation of the Chevy Cruze. You may as well do the heater core while you're at it.
To the comments saying he should have done the scope first, that is a diag. Diags cost fees. Customers don't want to pay for diags and so IMO the correct thing to do is offer to diagnose the misfire and do the tune up if they insist. He did an extra $100 test and he did the labor requested by the customer. Most of my customers are going off what a shop told/quoted them anyway so they don't want to pay for the 2nd opinion, just cheaper labor.
I give you props dude. I work at a dealer and I’m used to using a rack and whenever I do side jobs I work on the ground and the next day I’m sore lol. Can’t imagine how tired your body will be or cramping when you’re older. Good luck.
Listening to the customer just cause they say it might need a tune up was for sure the wrong call. If you just ran the compression test in the beginning and followed by the scope work you could’ve saved yourself and the customer money and time. Love the videos tho just my two cents
So in this case do you still charge the customer for the tune up, keeping all the new stuff on the car even though the motor is shot? Just curious how you tackle that.
South Carolina is a rust area? Looks like a save if it's just an intake valve... Timing belt job at the same time the valve is replaced and new gaskets & the owner avoids a car payment on a newer /used vehicle with more plastic and electronics that'll fail sooner than later.
Here's an idea for the customer... If they live close to a vocational technical school with an automotive shop, have them do that work of removing the cylinder head and changing the bad intake valve... Throw in the timing belt tensioners and water pump too... And check the serpentine tensioner while they're under the hood... Free labor and customer pays for the parts. Hands on training on live cars is one of the better ways to learn besides reading a book
Many old honda require valve adjustments at 100k or inspection, many people don't check, or even know the manual states it. I had mine adjusted because i bought a car used
Your videos inspire me brother! I have been a professional automotive tech for over 10 years. Im currently serving in the army . I get out next year and I plan on starting my auto repair business. I live your videos and the business truck. Was thinking about checking out some auctions out back home and picking one up. Any advice on where I can get one ? Or much much they usually range in price ?
when you mentioned dead motor? can you replace "that part" and get the person back on the road? How much do they cost to replace? is worth it? esp if you did the usual tune up?
Oh, I got a MDX and I just lump the valve adjustment with the timing belt, spark plugs, water pump, tensioners serpentine belt change every 105,000 miles (give or take)
I kinda dissagree. The air filter had been clogged with sand for over a year and likely lead to the lean condition that burnt the valve. A "tune up" is just less "tuning" than before but still 100% needed. also tho i was asked to do a Tune up not a Diag so Tough spot. Cheers! Thanks for the thoughts!
@@RoadsideRescue Always do a quick diag first, even if they don't ask for it. When someone tells me they need a tune up it usually means something is wrong and it needs to be diagnosed first. Throwing plugs and wires at something before doing anything is the wrong thing to do. You could have simply have disabled fuel or spark (even easier if it has a clear flood mode) and cranked this one over to give a quick check. I do this on any car with a misfire. You can still have a dead cylinder with compression but it's much less common.
youre gonna love a couple more videos i got coming out. 3 times this month someone asked me to do something without a diag and it was the wrong thing...
Lots of stuff being done with a bad engine in it I would have walked away from the job cause once you put your hands on it you own the problem and if you can't fix it your not going to be looked at in a good way for awhile that's why I tell all my customers new parts have to be bought and you agree to the fact it might not fix it depends on what it is
Thank you for sharing this video very informative, so question did the customer willingly pay you for the parts and labor to the car . ? If you provide the service you were asked to perform and then discover a dead or broken engine whom do you believe is the responsible player in the end towards monies . Thanks valuable lessons .
when you get your car tuned up every year, do you change the "filters" both in the engine and the glove compartment? is that necessary? if a person wants to save a few $$$$ can a person do it home?
If car or truck is running rough I get paid to diag to find out what the issues first . I don’t upsell other things until Iam fully confident on the complaint is fixed or will be fixed .
I once had a Suziki Swift 1.3 4cyl burn a valve. The guide was so worn and rocked from side to side. The valve got hot because it wasn't transferring the heat into the head. Couldn't find a head so I just lapped in a new one and drove it til parts got so hard to find so I threw in the towel
What causes a car to stall after putting it in drive? I've already checked for vacuum leaks, changed my spark plugs, changed the air filter, changed the pcv valve, cleaned the throttle body, cleaned the MAF, and it still stalls
Check the fuel system. You could possibly have a clogged fuel filter, or weak fuel pump, or bad fuel injectors. Start with the cheapest first of course. Which is the fuel filter.
Anytime my crv stalled on me, it was usually the distributor. I just took off the 3 screws and the cables, popped another on and put the cables back. And it worked! Happened twice already on mine
Don't understand thought processes here , screen wash ,cabin filter etc with a major obvious engine fault if did that where i work minimum verbal warning and retraining. And how do you do a tune up on ECU controlled system. Just saying my opinion.
I heard the engine when you put it on ramps and was like nooooo you shouldn't have topped off the windshield washer fluid or air the tires cause that sounded like rod knock and is trashed
Aren't you supposed to be the professional? Why would you listen to the customer advice? I think you should have verified by at least cranking the motor in flood mode to listen for an issue. It is pretty much my go-to.
Most clients are cheap and think they know it all.If they pay you and ask to do some stuff you do it, they pay for their stupidity. If they would say: check my car thoroghly then it's another game.
I think the engine is still salvageable. Those engines are common in the junk yard. Just get another cylinder head, get it resurfaced, change the head gasket and it should last another 80k+ miles. I dont see it costing more than a slightly used newer car.
@@markcavandish1295 IDK, soo many control modules intertwined and more plastic parts that should've remained metal... On newer cars due to "planned obsolescence"
If something is running real rough and you have a misfire on the ECU… please run a compression test FIRST. Or else either you or your customer are paying for shit it doesn’t even need or can use. Never trust your customers lines of “it just needs a tune up”… how do they know? 😂
Lesson learned... Proper diagnosis should have been agreed upon on first, don't take the customer hunch (verify the complaint first) or just put up a disclaimer that doing requested service may not fix the problem
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6 minutes seems like a long time to fill up a 35psi tire. How many tires can you inflate on a single charge?
Edit: I'm not trying to take away from the great quality of your videos when I question sponsor stuff... I appreciate what you do, just always question social media sponsors. This was a great video, and excellent work!
"it's been running rough for a few years" that's a big ⛳
A reasonably priced scope and a clamp on amp probe, can provide a super quick overview of an engines mechanical health via a relative compression test. As you likely well know…Of course I only mention this with the benefit of hindsight from your video. Fully appreciate you were only doing what you thought prudent. You got to the root cause of the issue quite quickly. Nice work. 🍻
Researching Clamp-on Amp Probe now…
@@markcavandish1295 usually called an amp clamp, they're not 100% accurate but for most use cases that doesn't matter
love it. best comment yet!
Can do a leak down test too
These CR-Vs often burned valves due to never getting a valve adjustment. The exhaust valves were set a bit too tight from factory. There’s a TSB from Honda on this for the B20 engines.
Honda TSB 03-038
@@rav4l2003 Definitely agree on likely not having had the valves adjusted. It happened on my turbocharged subaru too. That crappy engine used solid valve lifter, buckets, not hydraulic. In order to adjust the valves on that engine you have to measure the clearance and and figure out what replacement lifter/bucket thickness you need to give the right clearance. Of course I didn't realize this until after I determined I had a burnt valve.
Maybe checking the compression before doing all of the other work and parts replacement would have been a good idea? Would a valve job be our of the question? I guess they aren’t being done much these days?
Yeah the machine shop i use charges moe than a factory rebuilt head all said and done. So slapping a new head on is an option but cost more than its probably worth.
@@RoadsideRescue True. An in-frame makes sense a Diesel Semi, not so much on a gas engine car.
@@RoadsideRescue that makes sense
@@RoadsideRescue I don't know...Have you priced out a decent reliable used car lately?
All of the recommendations made in the video are fine for helping prevent valve problems. The number one thing that was not mentioned at all is to check your valve lash and keep them adjusted properly. This is the number one reason valves get burnt. Exhaust valves get tight over time and need to be adjusted to keep them from being held open. Most of the time it is recommended to check and adjust if necessary every 100k miles. No reason you can't do it earlier though. A lot of the time the valve cover gasket will start leaking around the same time depending on how much the vehicle is driven. Excellent time to check them while you are replacing the valve cover gasket.
That was funny. Filled up the washer fluid first and change the oil on a misfire.
Oh well hopefully you broke even.
Sorry you did the last things first. Back in the '70's my mentors taught me to first verify a good base engine and then proceed.
just doing what I was asked
But how would you know that without first doing very basic tune-up stuff to eliminate the obvious.
Rough idling can come from any number of things. I’ve never seen anyone pull out an engine inspection camera first before all else… Am I wrong?
I would have been pretty mad too.
@@daveunbranded Than you would have been smart enough to know it wasn’t a tune-up it needed???
@@RoadsideRescue you’re the mechanic, not the customer, cheers
I have been an auto technician on and off since 1992. Went thru a 3 year apprenticeship starting in 1993 thru a local junior college and the NCDA. It was pounded into our heads that you always do a compression test before attempting a tune up or any kinda driveability problem. Also why change fluids before fixing the rough running problem? Love your channel and your videos, not trying to bash you, just offering some free advice for next time.
When I did work experience with a mechanic in 1993 when I was 15 years old I noticed that the mechanics did a compression test before they did the tune up !
Exactly
Recently I did a compression test 1st because I had a bad feeling and it was a regular customer but as a mechanic we need to charge for each test and most people don’t want to pay anything extra.
A basic tune up on a 4 cylinder isn’t a money job so these need to be done as fast as possible.
Tell the customer this is what it cost regardless if it fixes the issue or pay my diag fee 1st and then I’ll get you a quote for parts and labor.
I'm so sorry. It's so easy to get focused on the task at hand. I've done this kind of thing a dozen times myself.
Im gonna be honest you shoulda fixed the misfire before you did all that other work, but i gotta thank you for still posting the video is was a great video as usual. Keep up the good work.
It's now a 3 cylinder engine. Slap a Geo Metro badge on it and carry on.
The sound alone when cranking the engine over is a red flag with a cylinder down.
Honda's need valve adjustments, at least most have solid lifters and need periodic lash adjustment. Usually intake valves loosen up over time, and exhaust valves recess into the head and tighten up. Exhaust valves that hang open for too long get hot and burn up. There is a saying "tappy valves are happy valves", which pertains more specifically to Honda's. Most people neglect this service and burn up their exhaust valves.
Bro I understand the hustle in cold weather. Im in Ohio
You think that cabin filter is bad, try replacing one on a Buick Verano or the last generation of the Chevy Cruze. You may as well do the heater core while you're at it.
To the comments saying he should have done the scope first, that is a diag. Diags cost fees. Customers don't want to pay for diags and so IMO the correct thing to do is offer to diagnose the misfire and do the tune up if they insist. He did an extra $100 test and he did the labor requested by the customer. Most of my customers are going off what a shop told/quoted them anyway so they don't want to pay for the 2nd opinion, just cheaper labor.
I give you props dude. I work at a dealer and I’m used to using a rack and whenever I do side jobs I work on the ground and the next day I’m sore lol. Can’t imagine how tired your body will be or cramping when you’re older. Good luck.
I think you can put your old blue 2000 CRV’s engine in the car! You dismantled that car a month ago and that engine would be perfect for it!
Listening to the customer just cause they say it might need a tune up was for sure the wrong call. If you just ran the compression test in the beginning and followed by the scope work you could’ve saved yourself and the customer money and time. Love the videos tho just my two cents
So in this case do you still charge the customer for the tune up, keeping all the new stuff on the car even though the motor is shot? Just curious how you tackle that.
South Carolina is a rust area? Looks like a save if it's just an intake valve...
Timing belt job at the same time the valve is replaced and new gaskets & the owner avoids a car payment on a newer /used vehicle with more plastic and electronics that'll fail sooner than later.
Here's an idea for the customer... If they live close to a vocational technical school with an automotive shop, have them do that work of removing the cylinder head and changing the bad intake valve... Throw in the timing belt tensioners and water pump too... And check the serpentine tensioner while they're under the hood... Free labor and customer pays for the parts.
Hands on training on live cars is one of the better ways to learn besides reading a book
They won't do it where I live
Yes but you get what you pay for ..
My wife had her passenger side door repaired (huge dent and hard to close) and repainted using this exact method.
I topped off your washer fluid and added air to the tires and now you need an engine 😂😂
valve replacement is super easy on that car
I don’t believe changing the cabin air filter would have straightened out the rough idle.
Definitely agree
Many old honda require valve adjustments at 100k or inspection, many people don't check, or even know the manual states it. I had mine adjusted because i bought a car used
Great point!
That’s is false my friend, it requires you to CHECK the valves, 9/10 do not need an adjustment at 100k
Your videos inspire me brother! I have been a professional automotive tech for over 10 years. Im currently serving in the army . I get out next year and I plan on starting my auto repair business. I live your videos and the business truck. Was thinking about checking out some auctions out back home and picking one up. Any advice on where I can get one ? Or much much they usually range in price ?
Hi, greetings from San Diego.
Why did you do compression test last and not first?
Like your videos.
when you mentioned dead motor? can you replace "that part" and get the person back on the road? How much do they cost to replace? is worth it? esp if you did the usual tune up?
What killed it was lack of valve adjustment these engines need it done every 60,000 miles to be on the safe side
Oh, I got a MDX and I just lump the valve adjustment with the timing belt, spark plugs, water pump, tensioners serpentine belt change every 105,000 miles (give or take)
You missed the #1 cause of burned valves on Honda/Acura. Valve Lash. That is what likely happened to this engine.
tune-up is no longer needed on today's cars. So you should of started with finding out what the problem is first.
I kinda dissagree. The air filter had been clogged with sand for over a year and likely lead to the lean condition that burnt the valve. A "tune up" is just less "tuning" than before but still 100% needed. also tho i was asked to do a Tune up not a Diag so Tough spot. Cheers! Thanks for the thoughts!
@@RoadsideRescue Always do a quick diag first, even if they don't ask for it. When someone tells me they need a tune up it usually means something is wrong and it needs to be diagnosed first. Throwing plugs and wires at something before doing anything is the wrong thing to do. You could have simply have disabled fuel or spark (even easier if it has a clear flood mode) and cranked this one over to give a quick check. I do this on any car with a misfire. You can still have a dead cylinder with compression but it's much less common.
youre gonna love a couple more videos i got coming out. 3 times this month someone asked me to do something without a diag and it was the wrong thing...
@@RoadsideRescueclogged air filter, less air flow and volume would result in a rich condition?
kkovler… are you fucking retarded? Tune-Ups are absolutely required in modern cars. This is also a Gen-2 CRV so…not exactly modern.
Lots of stuff being done with a bad engine in it I would have walked away from the job cause once you put your hands on it you own the problem and if you can't fix it your not going to be looked at in a good way for awhile that's why I tell all my customers new parts have to be bought and you agree to the fact it might not fix it depends on what it is
Thank you for sharing this video very informative, so question did the customer willingly pay you for the parts and labor to the car . ?
If you provide the service you were asked to perform and then discover a dead or broken engine whom do you believe is the responsible player in the end towards monies .
Thanks valuable lessons .
when you get your car tuned up every year, do you change the "filters" both in the engine and the glove compartment? is that necessary? if a person wants to save a few $$$$ can a person do it home?
If car or truck is running rough I get paid to diag to find out what the issues first . I don’t upsell other things until Iam fully confident on the complaint is fixed or will be fixed .
I once had a Suziki Swift 1.3 4cyl burn a valve. The guide was so worn and rocked from side to side. The valve got hot because it wasn't transferring the heat into the head. Couldn't find a head so I just lapped in a new one and drove it til parts got so hard to find so I threw in the towel
Always verify the costumers complaint and do some diag instead of assuming it’s a regular tune up
If a car has a engine light it’s no longer just a tuneup it turns in to a diagnoses .
8:50😆, now thats max performance.
What causes a car to stall after putting it in drive? I've already checked for vacuum leaks, changed my spark plugs, changed the air filter, changed the pcv valve, cleaned the throttle body, cleaned the MAF, and it still stalls
Check the fuel system. You could possibly have a clogged fuel filter, or weak fuel pump, or bad fuel injectors. Start with the cheapest first of course. Which is the fuel filter.
Fuel filter was just replaced with OE part not even 6,000 miles ago
@@tyronesmith3812 check the ignition coils, check the MAP sensor. Also the O2 sensors. Have you done a scan on it?
Anytime my crv stalled on me, it was usually the distributor. I just took off the 3 screws and the cables, popped another on and put the cables back. And it worked! Happened twice already on mine
Fuel pump on the way out or piston rings
Don't understand thought processes here , screen wash ,cabin filter etc with a major obvious engine fault if did that where i work minimum verbal warning and retraining. And how do you do a tune up on ECU controlled system. Just saying my opinion.
Got your oil change done,, by the way your engine is junk. 😂
😂😭
Lmao! SMH!
Why is the engine dead? Can't you just get a valves replaced and cyclinder head serviced? should be easy on a 4 banger, right?
Hi mate, where did you get that bore scope from?
Amazon as usual. ✌️
Runs rough and sounds like a ticking time bomb
Maybe you can buy it from them for scrap value and part it out like the other one ?
Can you tell me where you got that scope from? I want one.
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When I heard the engine running I suspected it didn't need a tune-up it was something worse
Me too rod knock
I heard the engine when you put it on ramps and was like nooooo you shouldn't have topped off the windshield washer fluid or air the tires cause that sounded like rod knock and is trashed
Valve adjustment probably is needed
Lol you're kidding right? Maybe that's the initial cause but we saw the valve damage
Time for B16 Si head or B18. GSR head!
That's why they call it Auto Joke Ernest lol!
Just be hearing the engine. Thats no spark plug issue
Could an exhaust manifold leak cause a burned valve?
What scope are you using?
teslong
What was the customers reaction?? 😮
Just dissapointed
Right!? That sucks to be the one to do all the work he just did only to tell the client, Sorry looks like your engine is actually dog crap.
Hey, at least they have a new cabin air filter, air filter, oil change, plugs and coolant🤣
The fact you waisted the client all that money. When you could of found this out in 5 mins of looking at a scanner
first things first, weehy the motor so rough and than the rest
you completely took advantage of this customer. this customer needed an engine diagnosis; not regular maintenance. You wasted their time and money.
thank you for the video and tip!
You bet!
Earnest , that did not sound even remotely healthy 😂
upsell an engine swap with a small discount
Aren't you supposed to be the professional? Why would you listen to the customer advice? I think you should have verified by at least cranking the motor in flood mode to listen for an issue. It is pretty much my go-to.
Most clients are cheap and think they know it all.If they pay you and ask to do some stuff you do it, they pay for their stupidity. If they would say: check my car thoroghly then it's another game.
Yeah, that's a 1 minute test. Can be confirmed with a compression test for another 30 minutes.
Because mobile mechanics just go do whatever the customer says then take their money.
@@mph5896 am I wrong to think that is a fast and easy test?
Did you still get paid
I think the engine is still salvageable. Those engines are common in the junk yard. Just get another cylinder head, get it resurfaced, change the head gasket and it should last another 80k+ miles. I dont see it costing more than a slightly used newer car.
In that case, I’m buying a slightly used newer car.
@@markcavandish1295 IDK, soo many control modules intertwined and more plastic parts that should've remained metal... On newer cars due to "planned obsolescence"
@@ricebike Good point!
I trust my ‘99 CRV to last longer than my 2019 Jeep Renegade.
They intentionally make cars disposable now. I hate it.
that voice does not sound like Ernest!
Too bad you were asked to do a tune up, not diagnose a poor running problem
Yeah its a tough spot.
Talk about an 'arse-about-face' job!!!
What's wrong with doing a good old fashion valve job? I cannot believe that you junked a motor because of a burnt valve you need to go back to school!
Are ever gonna do real job on a engine
If something is running real rough and you have a misfire on the ECU… please run a compression test FIRST. Or else either you or your customer are paying for shit it doesn’t even need or can use. Never trust your customers lines of “it just needs a tune up”… how do they know? 😂
Lesson learned... Proper diagnosis should have been agreed upon on first, don't take the customer hunch (verify the complaint first)
or just put up a disclaimer that doing requested service may not fix the problem
🤣
Bad motor? Pull the head and replace all valves…. 10 hour job? Takes less then 4 hours to pull the head…
Saw pine hollow diagnostics did just that one valve and turned the reliable Toyota into his loaner car for customers