DISCLAIMER: I OWN NONE OF THIS CONTENT. This was a reupload for the convenience of those who have ULC playlists, and for people who may have trouble accessing SoundCloud. All credit goes to the respective creators.
The main issue with Flow’s track here is that Chara is intentionally made in Storyshift to be a misanthropic character. While in the original Undertale, Chara is playacting while simultaneously being a terrifying entity, this is supposed to be a mellowed out Chara in the sense that playacting no longer exists; they are instead melodramatic and actively impose their hatred upon other humans to the extent that Chara sees other humans (besides themselves) as animals. Here, we can make the comparison through RichaadEB’s Bad Apple translation which takes another choice of word usage, pointed out by Baeddel (Tumblr user): “Even within the midst of flowing time / look, indifference still goes round and round” which becomes, in RichaadEB’s version, “I continue circling / with nothing but my hate in a carousel of agony” cf. the “masked Cagliostro whirling in a hellish harlequinade” of Akhmatova.” While other translations of Bad Apple use indifference, RichaadEB uses Hate. It becomes an *active disregard* compared to a lack of regard which Storyshift Chara employs consistently to demean and mock the human through their words. For example, Storyshift Chara uses the term in the new canon version: “Quite a pushy human, aren’t you.” This is no question, but a clear statement of dehumanization. Chara does not identify as a human anymore, so they’re free to be as bigoted as they want. This bigotry fuels their power; granting them as much hatred as they need until the human in front of them is a corpse. That’s when they’re satisfied-the human body is already dead, but Chara cannot abide by this until they stop moving. The symbolic face must be desecrated until you see the Real (the face beneath your face-blood and guts!), and Chara will make that happen. This theme here has roots in more upbeat tracks. It is then harder for someone to capture Storyshift Chara’s hate depending on your musical style. Chara’s theme must be *emotional* (See, Double-Edged Blade by Saknol and Aider’s remix of it) or must be oppressive (See: PURE HATRED). With this in mind, Chara is also an outcast. They don’t particularly fit into their society (Remember, UNDERTALE and it’s associated AUs always take place after a Race War), and Chara is clearly antisocial. They’re the type of person to misread Nietzsche and come away with the idea that eugenics are actually *good*! But at the end of the Genocide that you will cause, Chara suddenly changes. I am reminded of Ray Brassier’s Nihil Unbound: “Hope is reactionary: it cocoons actuality in the gossamer of the tolerable, dulling the thirst for change. Despair is revolutionary: it grinds the knife-edge of the intolerable against the whetstone of actuality, sparking the will to change. Whoever tolerates the present will never risk everything to change it. Only those who realize they have no future left to lose will be willing to stake everything on the total transformation of the present; a transformation in which every envisageable future is abolished, the better to invite the facelessness of what will come. The only appropriate mode of thinking for a culture on the edge of extinction is the thinking that stimulates pain.” At the end when Chara has to fight the human, Chara’s misanthropy transforms. Their racist, prejudiced nature changes. No, it’s not all humans, they say to themselves. It’s that one, right there, representing all of the humans. Representing Chara themselves. This is why Mirror Match sets up such a depressing theme, where Chara sees themselves and reveals immediately that they are self-loathing. Mirror Match is about them seeing themselves in the human. And this theme, this song, refuses to go knee-deep into the waters of this hate and self-loathing. It stays ontop, ankles only, convinced that the song must just resemble a simple MEGALOVANIA that can be put onto anything and everything without second thought. Flow here is not untalented or a moron-Flow just didn’t engage in Chara’s hate. Finally, I am reminded of King’s Field: “I am completely disinterested in exterminating monsters.” This is Chara’s philosophy. The monsters, the ugly people, are beautiful. The ‘humans’ are the ugly ones. They see themselves as ugly. That’s Chara. That’s why people see this as disinteresting or mid-it is not raw. It is not the cutting edge of a blade. It is not the gnashing teeth of hate. It is not blearing eyes devoured in red. It is not the absolute, the apex-it is not Chara. It is not you walking down the barren hallways. It is not a Rhizome (A non-linear network), it is not power. It is not Chara desperately fighting against a human. It is not Chara fighting against their ideology while simultaneously affirming their hate. An example would be this: “An illusion can never be destroyed directly, and only by indirect means can it be radically removed… A direct attack only strengthens a person in his illusions, and at the same time embitters him.” - Søren Kierkegaard, The Point of View This is unfortunately, a huge miss. Mirror Match needs a whole rework. I hope Flow can turn it into a roaring nightmare that it deserves-and I know they can. Thank you for reading.
@@twilight-retribution damn could just be a guess considering they are getting a new theme, a new model, and the character justs sucks rn but you prob right
They need to make sure they're getting the right musician for the character. Flow isn't untalented, but they really don't understand how to make a fitting theme for SS Chara- an inherently edgy and intense character. They're better suited for someone like Papyrus or Science Sans, not this. Really hope Pure Hatred gets to be an alternate song choice.
yea it will be, the reason they decided to make a new theme was because PURE HATRED was too similar to the killer sans theme (because both were made like one week apart), which isn't exactly a problem imo but idk
Its a good theme, it just doesnt fit THIS storyshift. It could work in any other sans vs chara game, But I just feel like this chara is supposed to be more of a serious person, and this theme doesnt really fit it.
I swear, if someone says they prefer this over pure hatred. You can conclude they like TTT2 over TTT1, Any atheism besides atheism 2, and icicle ignition 1 to icicle ignition 2. In other words, they Hella tone deaf!
I feel like someone else should’ve composed it like it’s not a bad song but doesn’t fit tone for character maybe someone like booster should composed it
DISCLAIMER: I OWN NONE OF THIS CONTENT. This was a reupload for the convenience of those who have ULC playlists, and for people who may have trouble accessing SoundCloud.
All credit goes to the respective creators.
The main issue with Flow’s track here is that Chara is intentionally made in Storyshift to be a misanthropic character. While in the original Undertale, Chara is playacting while simultaneously being a terrifying entity, this is supposed to be a mellowed out Chara in the sense that playacting no longer exists; they are instead melodramatic and actively impose their hatred upon other humans to the extent that Chara sees other humans (besides themselves) as animals. Here, we can make the comparison through RichaadEB’s Bad Apple translation which takes another choice of word usage, pointed out by Baeddel (Tumblr user):
“Even within the midst of flowing time / look, indifference still goes round and round” which becomes, in RichaadEB’s version, “I continue circling / with nothing but my hate in a carousel of agony” cf. the “masked Cagliostro whirling in a hellish harlequinade” of Akhmatova.”
While other translations of Bad Apple use indifference, RichaadEB uses Hate. It becomes an *active disregard* compared to a lack of regard which Storyshift Chara employs consistently to demean and mock the human through their words. For example, Storyshift Chara uses the term in the new canon version: “Quite a pushy human, aren’t you.” This is no question, but a clear statement of dehumanization. Chara does not identify as a human anymore, so they’re free to be as bigoted as they want. This bigotry fuels their power; granting them as much hatred as they need until the human in front of them is a corpse. That’s when they’re satisfied-the human body is already dead, but Chara cannot abide by this until they stop moving. The symbolic face must be desecrated until you see the Real (the face beneath your face-blood and guts!), and Chara will make that happen.
This theme here has roots in more upbeat tracks. It is then harder for someone to capture Storyshift Chara’s hate depending on your musical style. Chara’s theme must be *emotional* (See, Double-Edged Blade by Saknol and Aider’s remix of it) or must be oppressive (See: PURE HATRED). With this in mind, Chara is also an outcast. They don’t particularly fit into their society (Remember, UNDERTALE and it’s associated AUs always take place after a Race War), and Chara is clearly antisocial. They’re the type of person to misread Nietzsche and come away with the idea that eugenics are actually *good*! But at the end of the Genocide that you will cause, Chara suddenly changes. I am reminded of Ray Brassier’s Nihil Unbound:
“Hope is reactionary: it cocoons actuality in the gossamer of the tolerable, dulling the thirst for change.
Despair is revolutionary: it grinds the knife-edge of the intolerable against the whetstone of actuality, sparking the will to change.
Whoever tolerates the present will never risk everything to change it.
Only those who realize they have no future left to lose will be willing to stake everything on the total transformation of the present; a transformation in which every envisageable future is abolished, the better to invite the facelessness of what will come.
The only appropriate mode of thinking for a culture on the edge of extinction is the thinking that stimulates pain.”
At the end when Chara has to fight the human, Chara’s misanthropy transforms. Their racist, prejudiced nature changes. No, it’s not all humans, they say to themselves. It’s that one, right there, representing all of the humans. Representing Chara themselves. This is why Mirror Match sets up such a depressing theme, where Chara sees themselves and reveals immediately that they are self-loathing. Mirror Match is about them seeing themselves in the human. And this theme, this song, refuses to go knee-deep into the waters of this hate and self-loathing. It stays ontop, ankles only, convinced that the song must just resemble a simple MEGALOVANIA that can be put onto anything and everything without second thought. Flow here is not untalented or a moron-Flow just didn’t engage in Chara’s hate. Finally, I am reminded of King’s Field:
“I am completely disinterested in exterminating monsters.”
This is Chara’s philosophy. The monsters, the ugly people, are beautiful. The ‘humans’ are the ugly ones. They see themselves as ugly. That’s Chara.
That’s why people see this as disinteresting or mid-it is not raw. It is not the cutting edge of a blade. It is not the gnashing teeth of hate. It is not blearing eyes devoured in red. It is not the absolute, the apex-it is not Chara. It is not you walking down the barren hallways. It is not a Rhizome (A non-linear network), it is not power. It is not Chara desperately fighting against a human. It is not Chara fighting against their ideology while simultaneously affirming their hate. An example would be this:
“An illusion can never be destroyed directly, and only by indirect means can it be radically removed… A direct attack only strengthens a person in his illusions, and at the same time embitters him.”
- Søren Kierkegaard, The Point of View
This is unfortunately, a huge miss. Mirror Match needs a whole rework. I hope Flow can turn it into a roaring nightmare that it deserves-and I know they can.
Thank you for reading.
Words. 💀
no i wont read this
The autistic power of an Undertale fan
Its Over 3 Lines, I wont Read-it
i read allat but goddamn the indepth review is crazy. props for the yapping tho, actually made some sense
Me fighting my mirror counterpart
oh mah gaw its ujdinsanity!!!1!!1!
UJDInsanity when UJDsanity walks in
Im fighting the mirror final insanity sans
UJDDust
"Ditto."
the match is being mirrored
ACTUALLY SICK THO???
Me trying to win the rock paper scissors match with my reflection
Her head is so fuckin' round!
All good up until 0:45 arrives.
And good LORD, I hate when the audio gets barely audible...
So epic ! 🔥
DAMN IT YOU CANT SEE THE AMONG US NO
youtube compression probably killed it cause i specifically reuploaded with the higher quality image
i could use a shitty thumbnail to try and point out the fact that it's there if you want me to
@@NovaAeternus PLEASE DO
@@BoxStandard ive already heard at least 2 allegations against you while you took your time with responding
alr ill do it
@@NovaAeternus o lol
Epic thumbnail.
wtf is SS chara getting a phase 2 like swap papyrus’s cause this gives me dead meat vibes
this is a replacement for pure hatred zawg
@@twilight-retribution damn could just be a guess considering they are getting a new theme, a new model, and the character justs sucks rn
but you prob right
This song is 🔥🔥
They need to make sure they're getting the right musician for the character. Flow isn't untalented, but they really don't understand how to make a fitting theme for SS Chara- an inherently edgy and intense character. They're better suited for someone like Papyrus or Science Sans, not this. Really hope Pure Hatred gets to be an alternate song choice.
yea it will be, the reason they decided to make a new theme was because PURE HATRED was too similar to the killer sans theme (because both were made like one week apart), which isn't exactly a problem imo but idk
FRRRRR
this is so real
im pretty sure they'll end up making a v2 if people see that it aint that great for a ss chara theme
Ulc said that Pure Hatred was outdated cuz that song similar to "cut throat" so yeah they make a new one
hmm, Is nice.
Hyman Lock
Flow DID cook with Painkiller || and stuff like this,but this theme...? Idk how should i feel about ut...
Minor match
* Wild Wrenblu suddenly appears
how old is ss chara bru??
@@Guazt ten
@@ВампирыЛохи 💀
@@ВампирыЛохи Congragulations
You unlocked: holy fuck why are there so many edps
Mirror gyatt
Its a child
@LsebAstian-s4i so what im a kid too
My new main if Chara get a rework 🔥
sounds like a chace scene.
still good, but, like some parts seem a bit off for SS'.
Its a good theme, it just doesnt fit THIS storyshift. It could work in any other sans vs chara game, But I just feel like this chara is supposed to be more of a serious person, and this theme doesnt really fit it.
Why she built like that bruh
The theme isn't bad but mirror match is kinda inferior.
Hope flow remixes it. So it would be more.
I swear, if someone says they prefer this over pure hatred. You can conclude they like TTT2 over TTT1, Any atheism besides atheism 2, and icicle ignition 1 to icicle ignition 2. In other words, they Hella tone deaf!
Okay come on... Atheism 1 is good.
Atheism one is better
Ttt2 is good wtf u on???
@@ningyaungao49atheism II is simply the best version of atheism, its really not that hard to understand.
@@thatonefella17 it’s opinions
In reality it’s actually …NOW!
Make ss chara smile not angry
Why on earth would they be happy here
Or you know what do t make them happy
But why is ss chara angry
@@AmmarHodzic because they're in a fight to the death?
@@CompactStarok
Does that mean Pure hatred is a Phase 2 theme?
Its a replacement
They found that pure hatred was too similar to cutthroat (killer theme I think) so they remade it
Ye I just checked the ULC Discord
Yes but they wont remake the 3le3t for some reason despite it being too similiar to plot armor 😭😭😭
Pure harted might appear as an alt theme
Not %100 but Joey said something like it
Make ss chara music that one
Does that mean ssc will get a rework?
(sees its made by flow)
yea my expectations for this were low
hater
@@freezeoicegod Ain't hating if it's true. Pure hatred was better
@@thebigman9867 both suck actually
idk about you but flow ignites my icicles with magnificence while acting as a painkiller trust
Honestly flow is overhated, the only mid things they made was waltz of worry and the hunters call
meh song, pure hatred was ALOT better but still could be improved on, this is not the improvment
Pure Hatred was better ngl
Same opinion
Isn't pure hatred phase 1 or 2
@@typicalfella pretty sure ssc gonna be a single phase
This was made for a replacement
@@definentynotcarlnpcNOOOOO PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING
It’s pretty mid I have to say
Good enough I guess
So
A peak music
But a trash character in game
Did you call mommy trash?
@@dev.1.1.1 its a child..
Also yeah, hes bad in game, hes not that goos of a character
@@DarkSilverS Im a child too muwhaahahahrgwgahagwhahafahahagahaahaaha
@@dev.1.1.1 its not a reason, it would be twice as wrong, and this just let me know that you are a kis, which explains you being immature.
I feel like someone else should’ve composed it like it’s not a bad song but doesn’t fit tone for character maybe someone like booster should composed it
And do agree that pure hatred and cut throat sound too similar
booster doesn't work for ulc anymore buddy
@@twilight-retribution he quit ufs and composed one song for ulc I thought he was still a composer for ulc
mid