One thing I dislike on the digital gauge cluster, is the slow updating gear indicator. I mean, you don't need it in a manual car, you know yourself which gear you are in at the specific moment. But man, does that take a long time to update it after the shift has happened.
My Mazda manual does the same. It's because it only updates when the clutch is at top of pedal travel, so digital update seems to lag, but that's by design.
Thanks for reviewing this super fun car. It's not like many of the cars that you do review, but I think that it does its job just right. Certainly we could get more power out of it but I don't know if it's necessary.
I think you can do whatever you want to with it, more power wouldn't destroy the car but also keeping it stock won't, its just a pure enthusiasts car with which you can do whatever you prefer doing with it
I think that just adding more sound to it its enough, like a nice exhaust and an intake for example but its seems a very nice little car to have fun with
This is something that I never thought I'd say, but I like the fake sound here. Maybe it's worse in real life, but through my speakers it actually sounds okay. 😅😅😅 Loooove this little car! The shifter seems to allow amazingly quick shifting! 😍
I own a 2022. I disconnected the fake engine sound, took out the carbon filter (it's very restrictive) and switch the exhauste for a Corsa one and now it sounds Great!
Harrop is going to kill it with this one. Pop in that supahchargah and some other small tweaks and you got yourself something that can go toe to toe with the new Supra.
odered mine in November (have to wait till summer) , Blue Sapphire Metallic , 46k msrp (Austrian price+ taxes+ fines for the Engine etc) i cant wait till it arrives
As much as I love this car, it WAY WAY WAY overpriced here in Germany. You could get a GT86 Dragon special edition for 31-32k brand new (which was completely fair) and they want 35k for a base spec GR86 and close to 40k for the "Premium". The US price is great, because it barely costs more than the GT86 did, but here in Germany they went complete bonkers.
That's unfortunately really just due to the euro depreciating versus the dollar in that time. Convert the $ price to € and VAT and you're practically there.
@@thixie Not really, the GR86 is sold over MSRP here, which is not normal in Germany (other cars also arent that much more expensive here than in the states). At the dealer, you ususally get a discount of about 10% (more or less, depending on the car). Problem is we will only get 1000 GR86 for all of Europe, which massively spiked the price.
@@fry.master Wow, a car with more HP is faster. That's unbelievable )) Put them both on a low-speed track this will smoke that Ford and with better fuel economy.
The FRS of old had a TRD version with a louder exhaust. It made that car feel faster😂. If I get this car, I’d get an exhaust and disconnect the fake sound!
You don’t understand the concept Toyota asked Subaru to co-design this car’s chassis together in the beginning - to make a lowest gravity car in the world. By putting small boxer engine in the 86, Toyota and Subaru made this achievement.
I actually like the sound of the car. The fact, that's it's not complicated makes it attractive to me (i drive an old Audi and it's a nightmare because of unnecessary complications) ... but the power though... the power... 200-250hp is a city car.... slightly more sporty for the city, but still not enough. But some tuning on that baby... 400-450 horsepower.... a rear wing and I AM IN LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't be ridiculous. Anything like that much horsepower would require heavy duty diff, gearbox, brakes etc resulting in a massive weight gain and also a massive price increase.
@@GM-fh5jp oh come on, it's not that much:) I'm a complete amateur and i have the feeling that 400hp is my lowest when it comes to my next vehicle. In terms of being ridiculous. I love driving, but i understand little when it comes to aftermarket parts and gear. There is a veeeeery solid possibility that I'm being ridiculous because i have no clue what's underneath the car. (I didn't watch the full video)
@@nugget6644 Thanks for your comment. In contrast I'm an experienced driver with racing experience and have owned sports cars all my life so you can be assured I have a pretty good idea what works. I agree with a horsepower increase for the GR86...around 275 would be ideal for its lighweight chassis and components but anything much over that would require a lot more heavy duty parts to deal with it. If you want to go faster and harder...get a better car with a better engine.
@@GM-fh5jp hey, i have a question. If this car gets big turbine, a big intercooler, removed rear seats... Wouldn't it be fast? Wouldn't it reach 400hp? Of course... That would require for the pistons to be changed with maybe iron made (i assume that the stock are aluminium which cannot hold 400hp) But overall... With proper tuning, removing seats, adding weight to the engine... I think it's absolutely possible Am i wrong?
Not really Fun per Euro when it was sold out *immediately* and is now re-sold for like 60-70K when its original Price was like 35k?.... its a joke really (Germany)
yea, the markups and resales are an absolute disappointment, however when looked at from a neutral perspective, given that you were able to get it for MSRP, the car is really really hard to beat
Wanted to buy one, but the markups are insane. The GT86 Dragon could be had for 31k brand new and they want 35k for the base spec GR86 and 38-40k for the "Premium"... ended up going for an I30N DCT.
Try import it Form Austria maybe? Here the car sits at its msrp of 46k (depending on your colour) you can still order them, not sure for how much longer
the automatic versions have all the extra safety features like autonomous breaking, so I'm sure with some tweaking they can make the manuals have it in the next couple of years. Subaru have already announced they are working on it
Dit is mijn droom auto (begon met de GT86), alleen jammer van de prijs. BPM maakt de auto minder anntrekkelijk :| Voor de 60-72k prijs, zijn er niet andere auto's die vergelijkbaar zijn met de GR86 maar betere interieur / performance (meer waarde voor je geld)?
@@enekoprins yeap, in late model cars it comes by default. In the "old ones" you fan ask for s software update that adds that to the menu. It's a little bit hidden, but it exist
Lol it's interesting that my 2010 5 speed base model forester makes better noises than this car does stock. no hate towards the gr86, id take my car any day for one of those but the sound would make me sad for a while before i inevitably put an exhaust on it
The rev-hang is what is keeping me away from these, it sucks if you are shifting fast. Hopefully that might just be a tune-related issue, given the strict emissions nowadays.
Super neat compact car. The Volkswagen Polo GTI is far more usable. I don’t see people wanting a compromise in this segment where you want as much as you can get. I’d be more interested if the car was the size of a Golf with as much rear space as a Polo and of course was RWD and lightweight.
Toyota Europe really makes strange combos for the GR86 depending in which coutry they sell it. So, it seems by your video that they sell the premium interior with the 17 inch wheels in the Netherlands? Here in Spain we can only buy the base interior (35000€), but then can choose to keep the stock 17", or pay a plus 3500€ for the black18´s and get upgraded brake pads, and then you can opt for a 6500€ plus to get the "circuit pack" which includes 6 piston, 350mm AP Racing brakes,18 inch forged Braid wheels and Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires. So they are basicaly officially dealer tuning their GR86 here, they even come TUV approved which is odd 😂
Not quite, the owner has bought the 17 inch wheels separately for the winter tyres. You can tell by the headlights. The base models (with 17s) don't have the full LED dynamic headlights.
i have a gt86 with 2000 kms on it, so brand new. 2000 with 200 cv and goes sideways everytime I want. This new version is worse in aestetich and also engine has no senso. it needs a turbo if they want to change in something more fast...
Problem these manufacturers have, is that with all this crap about noise and whatnot, you can’t blame them for making it quiet. I mean in the uk they’re even putting in sound cameras.
Is it me or is the New Honda Prelude just a copy of the GR86/Subaru thing-a-ma-jig (can't recall the name right now)? Hey auto industry, it's really disappointing when so many cars start looking the same (again).
Lost me when you said 'some cars have too much power' as its clearly a cover for the GR86 which is seriously underpowered. Drive a Veloster N or Elantra N.
Am I the only person who wouldn't mind driving this car with an aftermarket turbo setup and better tires? Looks like fun which is why i bought my simple GTI.
Plenty of options for 30k which are 2-3 years old and having low overall kilometers. 140/240 eat this thing alive, s3 are faster and so on. Just safe the money and get a supra.
@@skylineownzful Plenty of reviewers prefered the GT86 over the Supra already (which is just a rebranded Z4, a "sports car" unlike the M2 or M3); the GR86 is even better.
Good performance for the buck, yes. I just wish the styling was a bit less plain. I'd have a hard time telling this apart from plain jane civics rolling down the street. Also why isthe cluster so slow yo update gear numbers when you shift? That could seriously freak a driver out.
![Toyota GR Yaris REVIEW on AUTOBAHN [NO SPEED LIMIT] by AutoTopNL](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jiM-ubdMh4/mqdefault.jpg)
This is WITHOUT QUESTION one of the MOST FUN-PER-$€£¥ available on the market today. Thanks for reviewing a "realistic" enthusiast vehicle.
Hat er ein Video mit dem Nissan Z gemacht?
Slow
@@alper460 Nö
Not avaiable all sold in Europe😂
@@J-DD seems like you're missing the point of the car.
It's hilarious when he says that "it sounds like revving your grandma's Suzuki" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I genuinely laughed at that! 🤣
like the Suzuki Baleno... nice... kkkkkk
One thing I dislike on the digital gauge cluster, is the slow updating gear indicator. I mean, you don't need it in a manual car, you know yourself which gear you are in at the specific moment.
But man, does that take a long time to update it after the shift has happened.
It probably displays the gear from the tachometer + speedo alone which is why it would take longer
its not that long lol. its not even a second. It may seem long because the clutch is not fully disengaged, but I get why its annoying.
It’s pretty stupid. I can say though it has helped me once or twice when I’m zoned out lol
Kartza96
taught the same thing, when you drive a manual you dont need a gear indicator you feel in which gear you are
My Mazda manual does the same. It's because it only updates when the clutch is at top of pedal travel, so digital update seems to lag, but that's by design.
Thanks for reviewing this super fun car. It's not like many of the cars that you do review, but I think that it does its job just right.
Certainly we could get more power out of it but I don't know if it's necessary.
I think you can do whatever you want to with it, more power wouldn't destroy the car but also keeping it stock won't, its just a pure enthusiasts car with which you can do whatever you prefer doing with it
The power from factory are certainly more than enough, but yeah it's depends on us if want to modify to get more power
I think that just adding more sound to it its enough, like a nice exhaust and an intake for example but its seems a very nice little car to have fun with
there is already guys out there turboing these and pushing 300 whp
Yes finally someone have thoughts on the cabin sound, it does sounds like in an undesirable video game
My upgrade hurry to the 459hp
Thanks for the shoutout and the review!
This is something that I never thought I'd say, but I like the fake sound here. Maybe it's worse in real life, but through my speakers it actually sounds okay. 😅😅😅
Loooove this little car! The shifter seems to allow amazingly quick shifting! 😍
I own a 2022. I disconnected the fake engine sound, took out the carbon filter (it's very restrictive) and switch the exhauste for a Corsa one and now it sounds Great!
Man I am driving my grandmother’s Suzuki Baleno. You are absolutely right about the sound!😂😂😂😂
The antidote, drive as needed.
Great car with much potential for upgrades. 👍😁
Harrop is going to kill it with this one. Pop in that supahchargah and some other small tweaks and you got yourself something that can go toe to toe with the new Supra.
I know your used to way faster cars but to me this would feel like a rocket 🚀😂
If Toyota brings back the Celica, imagine how fun it will be
Looks like the Alfa 33 Boxer Engine
the fake engine sound is terrible but it is pretty easy to unplug though.
odered mine in November (have to wait till summer) , Blue Sapphire Metallic , 46k msrp (Austrian price+ taxes+ fines for the Engine etc) i cant wait till it arrives
As much as I love this car, it WAY WAY WAY overpriced here in Germany. You could get a GT86 Dragon special edition for 31-32k brand new (which was completely fair) and they want 35k for a base spec GR86 and close to 40k for the "Premium". The US price is great, because it barely costs more than the GT86 did, but here in Germany they went complete bonkers.
That's unfortunately really just due to the euro depreciating versus the dollar in that time. Convert the $ price to € and VAT and you're practically there.
@@thixie Not really, the GR86 is sold over MSRP here, which is not normal in Germany (other cars also arent that much more expensive here than in the states). At the dealer, you ususally get a discount of about 10% (more or less, depending on the car). Problem is we will only get 1000 GR86 for all of Europe, which massively spiked the price.
Would be a sweet step up from my 2001 celica gt
Changing that exhaust and removing speed limiter would be bang for the buck in this car...
So remove limiter and fake sound and do some exhaust work - enjoy 😊
Such a shame about the EU regs. How did we manage without cameras until now 😂
if only this wasnt recorded with such a wide angle lens so you could actually see what the car looks like
Amazing NA manual car
What a nice little thing to have some fun in B roads!!! But it really deserves some more power :) maybe more 30-40hp and it'd be awesome!
Air filter, some headers and a tune should bring about 25-40hp, perfect for this car
Amazing car, sensational review as ever!!
A real sport car simple agile and light
I will probably buy this one is amazing ❤🔥 or the gr supra mk5
Seems to do 200km/h pretty comfortably but if it had bit more power
Surprising 100-200 👍
surprisingly meh, slower than a stock focus ST. That car will put you to sleep on the highway like a uhaul.
@@fry.master Wow, a car with more HP is faster. That's unbelievable ))
Put them both on a low-speed track this will smoke that Ford and with better fuel economy.
Hele vette GR86 Max !! ❤❤
The FRS of old had a TRD version with a louder exhaust. It made that car feel faster😂. If I get this car, I’d get an exhaust and disconnect the fake sound!
my 2 favourite car-youtuber working together, nice.
Love that sports car
omega fun for sure, I live on a small island so these would be PERFECT for me
Love to see a car with a proper gear stick and not some flappy wanky padels or flaky automatics
'virtual sound from speakers' is pure blasphemy for every single real car lover...
I'm surprised you said that!
the factory exhaust sucks, but aftermarket for these cars is very strong so its pretty easy to make them sound better
Super cheap bro ! In Thailand this car cost about 89,000 USD haha. cuz the TAX
Sound: equal lenght headers - thats why engine sounds more like inline 4 than typical Subaru.
Nothing Cheap about this car in The Netherlands. Costs about as much as a 2.0 Supra here, such a shame.
This is definitely one of the best deals on the market, but you forgot the Mazda mx-5 nd2 manual.
Nice Subaru
nissan Z next please, 400hp will be faster huehue
Is it imported in europe?
@@philippelemaire2887 Ah shucks its not, damn
@@lltritatutto Nissan Z costs a lot more, weighs 400kg more even if it has only two seats, and has no LSD in base trim unlike any gr86 models
Imagine this car with v or a straight 6 engine, ah yes
I’m sure somebody has already swapped a 2JZ in it 😁
Or a K20 😋
Toyota has Supra with a i6 already
You don’t understand the concept Toyota asked Subaru to co-design this car’s chassis together in the beginning - to make a lowest gravity car in the world. By putting small boxer engine in the 86, Toyota and Subaru made this achievement.
Flat-6 3.0L would be cooler.
Great as a first car? Huh! In Belgium my first car was a Toyota...but a second hand old 75 hp Starlet and it was fun as well :D
Sounds like a beefier lawn-mover, but a fun car with excellent value.
I actually like the sound of the car. The fact, that's it's not complicated makes it attractive to me (i drive an old Audi and it's a nightmare because of unnecessary complications)
... but the power though... the power... 200-250hp is a city car.... slightly more sporty for the city, but still not enough.
But some tuning on that baby... 400-450 horsepower.... a rear wing and I AM IN LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't be ridiculous. Anything like that much horsepower would require heavy duty diff, gearbox, brakes etc resulting in a massive weight gain and also a massive price increase.
@@GM-fh5jp oh come on, it's not that much:) I'm a complete amateur and i have the feeling that 400hp is my lowest when it comes to my next vehicle.
In terms of being ridiculous. I love driving, but i understand little when it comes to aftermarket parts and gear.
There is a veeeeery solid possibility that I'm being ridiculous because i have no clue what's underneath the car. (I didn't watch the full video)
@@nugget6644 Thanks for your comment. In contrast I'm an experienced driver with racing experience and have owned sports cars all my life so you can be assured I have a pretty good idea what works.
I agree with a horsepower increase for the GR86...around 275 would be ideal for its lighweight chassis and components but anything much over that would require a lot more heavy duty parts to deal with it.
If you want to go faster and harder...get a better car with a better engine.
@@GM-fh5jp you really do sound like you did your homework... I love driving but i understand little of hardware...
@@GM-fh5jp hey, i have a question. If this car gets big turbine, a big intercooler, removed rear seats... Wouldn't it be fast? Wouldn't it reach 400hp?
Of course... That would require for the pistons to be changed with maybe iron made (i assume that the stock are aluminium which cannot hold 400hp)
But overall... With proper tuning, removing seats, adding weight to the engine... I think it's absolutely possible
Am i wrong?
Kapak fotoğrafında araç opel insigniaya cok benziyor 💫
What I don't like are people who ridiculously dress up their car.This car looks great as it is.
They actually made this a little bit slower than the first gen. Those had a top speed of 235kmh.
Needs uel headers , lightened flywheel , and final ratio bumped back to 4.30 .
That sound is precisely the Gran Torismo’s dry assed sound! Slow car are a lot more fun to drive when set up properly
Ik wil er wel 1 ! Of de GR Yaris, helemaal vet en met AWD .... !
Ik zou mn r32 inruilen voor een gr yaris
great car, really really good, handles fantastic
Absolutely love these,
Thank you for this review.
Not really Fun per Euro when it was sold out *immediately* and is now re-sold for like 60-70K when its original Price was like 35k?.... its a joke really
(Germany)
yea, the markups and resales are an absolute disappointment, however when looked at from a neutral perspective, given that you were able to get it for MSRP, the car is really really hard to beat
Wanted to buy one, but the markups are insane. The GT86 Dragon could be had for 31k brand new and they want 35k for the base spec GR86 and 38-40k for the "Premium"... ended up going for an I30N DCT.
Try import it Form Austria maybe? Here the car sits at its msrp of 46k (depending on your colour) you can still order them, not sure for how much longer
Fun per money is the best thing i search!! i was looking also for a new miata nd
Full throttle with the oil at 64ºC? The temp was a bit to low for max acceleration if you want care the car.
Cute Design
i will have to wait 10 years for these to be available here in sweden and maybe some headgaskets later and then i can buy it for a reasonable price
the automatic versions have all the extra safety features like autonomous breaking, so I'm sure with some tweaking they can make the manuals have it in the next couple of years. Subaru have already announced they are working on it
to bad the auto is not only slower, it is a pretty sluggish auto by modern standards
The auto gr86 is a quick car mine is,
Dit is mijn droom auto (begon met de GT86), alleen jammer van de prijs. BPM maakt de auto minder anntrekkelijk :| Voor de 60-72k prijs, zijn er niet andere auto's die vergelijkbaar zijn met de GR86 maar betere interieur / performance (meer waarde voor je geld)?
Not first but lot's of love ❤
The thumbnail showing the back made me think it was a 2007 Vauxhall Insignia
you can disable the fake sound in the menu. Or just unplug 1 connector behind the glovebox
In the menu? Since when?
@@enekoprins yeap, in late model cars it comes by default. In the "old ones" you fan ask for s software update that adds that to the menu. It's a little bit hidden, but it exist
guys can you get a hold of a ferrari purosangue i really wanna see how it will perform at the autobahn
07:20 09:25 ...that gearbox stick seems to reveal a broken gearbox lol
It would not be too hard to add a big turbo and remove the speedlimiter and such though now would it?
229kmh limit? That's really low for such a car in my opinion
It is more than adequate. You will never reach limiter except autobahn anyway.
@KingofInterns For Autobahn it's too low. Being limited at 267 felt slow at times for me lol
@@KuzkayDev yes but you don't get this car for autobahn :)
@@KingofInterns That's also definitely true
i dont understand why toyota don't turbocharged this car. i rather buy mk7 gold gti.
Lol it's interesting that my 2010 5 speed base model forester makes better noises than this car does stock. no hate towards the gr86, id take my car any day for one of those but the sound would make me sad for a while before i inevitably put an exhaust on it
cool stuff
Hello Max !
The rear remnds me of an old vauxhall insignia.
OPEL.........Vauxhall is nothing as a batch!
I love this clean face
Bro there is some engine sound
The rev-hang is what is keeping me away from these, it sucks if you are shifting fast. Hopefully that might just be a tune-related issue, given the strict emissions nowadays.
you havent driven one then
@@tone3560 I haven’t indeed. Are you telling me there isn’t any rev-hang?
@@gky3019 None whatsoever....the throttle inputs are a little goofy but it is overexaggerated like the rtv issue.
Wait. Are those honda tail lights?
Max you Can also Say thank you to Toyota Germany press department. 😉
11:55 can you share me the link to that spreadsheet
Super neat compact car. The Volkswagen Polo GTI is far more usable. I don’t see people wanting a compromise in this segment where you want as much as you can get. I’d be more interested if the car was the size of a Golf with as much rear space as a Polo and of course was RWD and lightweight.
Polo is crap on track
@@Eugen-E Why on earth would I drive a street car on the track? Just rent karts
@@avery4528 Why on earth do sports coupes exist instead of just big fat stupid SUVs ? This would be the answer to your dumb question.
Yaris gr or GT86 gr ?
Let’s gooooo ❤🎉🎉🎉
Toyota Europe really makes strange combos for the GR86 depending in which coutry they sell it. So, it seems by your video that they sell the premium interior with the 17 inch wheels in the Netherlands? Here in Spain we can only buy the base interior (35000€), but then can choose to keep the stock 17", or pay a plus 3500€ for the black18´s and get upgraded brake pads, and then you can opt for a 6500€ plus to get the "circuit pack" which includes 6 piston, 350mm AP Racing brakes,18 inch forged Braid wheels and Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires. So they are basicaly officially dealer tuning their GR86 here, they even come TUV approved which is odd 😂
Not quite, the owner has bought the 17 inch wheels separately for the winter tyres. You can tell by the headlights. The base models (with 17s) don't have the full LED dynamic headlights.
Top Gear are probably going to need a new presenter(s) soon, think you should apply, you would do well with your knowledge, experience and wit!
Most fun for $€£¥ for sure
I can't stand the attitude towards cars in my country (Norway)... I think the price here starts at around 65 000 (at least for the BRZ).
Modern cars are filled with some useful stuff but too many unnecessary electronics. One thing I cant forgive car makers is fake engine sound.
i have a gt86 with 2000 kms on it, so brand new. 2000 with 200 cv and goes sideways everytime I want. This new version is worse in aestetich and also engine has no senso. it needs a turbo if they want to change in something more fast...
Problem these manufacturers have, is that with all this crap about noise and whatnot, you can’t blame them for making it quiet. I mean in the uk they’re even putting in sound cameras.
2010 vauxhall insignia ?
Why isn't this steering wheel in the Supra?! 🤔
Thank you for reviewing cars like this eventhough they might not be the best for views.
Is it me or is the New Honda Prelude just a copy of the GR86/Subaru thing-a-ma-jig (can't recall the name right now)? Hey auto industry, it's really disappointing when so many cars start looking the same (again).
Lost me when you said 'some cars have too much power' as its clearly a cover for the GR86 which is seriously underpowered. Drive a Veloster N or Elantra N.
Am I the only person who wouldn't mind driving this car with an aftermarket turbo setup and better tires? Looks like fun which is why i bought my simple GTI.
you get a M2 for 45k 😂
Plenty of options for 30k which are 2-3 years old and having low overall kilometers. 140/240 eat this thing alive, s3 are faster and so on. Just safe the money and get a supra.
@@skylineownzful And none of them handle as well and pure as the GR86.
@@xXYannuschXx yea it's common knowledge that bmw is handling so poor compared to Toyota 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@skylineownzful Plenty of reviewers prefered the GT86 over the Supra already (which is just a rebranded Z4, a "sports car" unlike the M2 or M3); the GR86 is even better.
Good performance for the buck, yes. I just wish the styling was a bit less plain. I'd have a hard time telling this apart from plain jane civics rolling down the street.
Also why isthe cluster so slow yo update gear numbers when you shift? That could seriously freak a driver out.
It a mix of an f type lotus and miata..
manual car in EU have to be more silent than automatic, because of the way they are measured :(