The C-390 Millennium: How Brazil Revolutionized Strategic Airlift

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @enso3140
    @enso3140 14 часов назад +248

    As a Brazilian and an engineering student its amazing how the c390 was developed considering the chaos it is trying to do anything arround here. After meeting people from embraer and having teachers who worked on it, the pride they have on the plane is bigger than its capability which speaks a lot to me plus being close to an air force base i can spot it sometimes flying arround wich makes it even more amazing

    • @PaulGuy
      @PaulGuy 13 часов назад +22

      Embraer is a good company and your nation deserves to be proud of what it's achieved, with this and many other planes.

    • @alvaroribeiro4222
      @alvaroribeiro4222 12 часов назад +5

      The federal government invested U$ 2,00 billions for the development and construction of two prototypes, so, I don't see how that is either amazing or chaotic.

    • @generalbenjaminarrola340
      @generalbenjaminarrola340 11 часов назад +1

      ​@@alvaroribeiro4222ele é liberal, ele não sabe que o estado financiou isso

    • @Debaucherousgeek
      @Debaucherousgeek 11 часов назад

      It IS a great airframe. I've flown on many Embraer commercial aircraft and felt perfectly safe. Your engineers are just as good as American/European. SHAME though your government spent a couple BILLION, U.S. dollars equivalent while so many of your people live in total poverty and tourist in Rio, Sau Paolo etc are not safe. Tourism could bring so much more money back to Brazil than manufacturing military aircraft.

    • @dewiz9596
      @dewiz9596 10 часов назад +3

      15 planes in 7 years. . . Wow. I’m gonna piss myself.

  • @henriquebelotto
    @henriquebelotto 15 часов назад +134

    I had the amazing experience of flying this aircraft during the flight test (in the past, I was a Flight Test Engineer) and it was a wonderful experience. I'm extremely proud of Embraer and its engineers that, despite all the challenges of doing such a thing in Brazil, they find a way to Excel in whatever they do. Congratulations Embraer and its Engineers

    • @Thenonsocial
      @Thenonsocial 7 часов назад +1

      Embraer is so Impressive! Hats off and congratulations from Swe!

    • @petero7937
      @petero7937 5 часов назад +2

      Well do to Embraer. I think the sales team needs to include a good Brazilian or BRICS sourced wheeled and tracked Infantry Fighting vehicle, APC, logistics vehicles that can fit into this aircraft. This will help in creating a well rounded sort of QRF. That will definitely give it an edge over the C130. South Africa needs something like this

    • @LRBerry
      @LRBerry 44 минуты назад

      I have always been a fan of Embraer. The C-390 sounds like an awesome aircraft.

  • @Kermit670
    @Kermit670 16 часов назад +157

    Love to see other countries developing aircraft! With this and the Super Tucano, Embraer is really starting to spread its wings

    • @jgrenwod
      @jgrenwod 14 часов назад +7

      They have been selling airliners for 20 years.

    • @mot3193
      @mot3193 12 часов назад +3

      @@jgrenwodI don’t think anyone is debating that bro.

    • @Bramon83
      @Bramon83 9 часов назад

      i see what you did there.

    • @gvibration1
      @gvibration1 5 часов назад

      Volume is still ridiculously small.

  • @rothtiberiuscain7589
    @rothtiberiuscain7589 16 часов назад +233

    There was a smart American general that once said logisitics wins wars and nothing else comes remotely close.

    • @MarcinMoka1
      @MarcinMoka1 15 часов назад +29

      You mean “Infantry wins battles. Logistics wins wars”

    • @mikepatton8691
      @mikepatton8691 14 часов назад +17

      ​@@MarcinMoka1and the General who said that was General John J. Pershing.

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 14 часов назад +1

      Logistics and naval power.

    • @EyesOfByes
      @EyesOfByes 13 часов назад

      Pun intended

    • @MoreBrainrotPlease
      @MoreBrainrotPlease 12 часов назад +2

      Drones...

  • @5chr4pn3ll
    @5chr4pn3ll 15 часов назад +78

    Sweden and Brazil have a great exchange of aircraft, with these and Gripens :)

    • @Anonymous-zu7dh
      @Anonymous-zu7dh 7 часов назад +2

      The Gripen is even produced on a license in Brazil.

  • @lucianoandrade5007
    @lucianoandrade5007 13 часов назад +46

    Some people believe that Embraer wanted to insinuate that its C-390 aircraft is three times better than the C-130, but this is not true. Embraer has a code for its projects with 3 digits, the 1st is '1' for commercial models (examples 190 or 195) and '3' for military models (examples 314 Super Tucano and 390 Millennium), the '90' for C-390 is probably due to the fact that initially the idea was to use the wing of the EMB-190 (to reduce costs and time for launch), which was soon discarded for a wing of a completely new design, optimized for a military multi-mission aircraft.

    • @300guy
      @300guy 8 часов назад +1

      I am sure there were other 2 number combinations available. People aren't stupid, they can figure out the tongue in cheek assertion that the C390 is 3X the aircraft the C130 was.

    • @mos8541
      @mos8541 7 часов назад +1

      C17

    • @johannessamuelsson6578
      @johannessamuelsson6578 21 минуту назад +1

      @@300guy Embraer can\t use the 200 prefix due to ICAO type identifiers of the E2 commercial jet family.

  • @ricahrdb
    @ricahrdb 13 часов назад +41

    Definitely a game changer. The C130 for a long time defined the market for this class of transport aircraft, but probably for a bit too long. Technology has moved on and Embraer did a fantastic job capitalising on that.

  • @Smooth_As_Silkk
    @Smooth_As_Silkk 11 часов назад +31

    Imagine one of the US aeronautical companies delivering a project on time, one budget, out performing expected performance and cheaper than initially projected. Its actually complete too, they're not trying to fix the thing 5 or 10 years into production. They all do it but I'm especially looking at Lockheed.

    • @edwardplatkin5730
      @edwardplatkin5730 10 часов назад +4

      Kelly Johnson at the Skunkworks. Using slide rules and talent, almost all Skunkwork's projects were: ahead of schedule, under budget and overperforming. U-2, SR-71, Century-series fighters and more. Today Skunkworks is a trademark, not an engineering way-of-life.

    • @bardigan1
      @bardigan1 4 часа назад

      @@edwardplatkin5730 The energy and creativity just moved to silicon valley and wall street.

  • @erickhian
    @erickhian 15 часов назад +26

    Embraer has a gold team, Tucano, C-390, mid size comercial air planes(that selll a lot $$$).... Embraer is the Brasil that works!!!

  • @ShawnHCorey
    @ShawnHCorey 13 часов назад +27

    There is an adage: When war breaks out, young officers talk about tactics and strategies. Older officers talk about logistics.

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 Час назад

      Its only natural, young officers are going to be in command of platoons, companies and batallions. Levels where direct contact with the enemy requires more focus on the opposition while trusting others to do their jobs. Old officers will be in command of levels that really need to deal with logistics in order to enable those younger officers.

  • @JUStCALLMEZIMM
    @JUStCALLMEZIMM 15 часов назад +39

    That's one beautiful aircraft

  • @RyanZimmerman-hp7pl
    @RyanZimmerman-hp7pl 15 часов назад +92

    Can we talk about the fact that if you turn the 9 around you get C-3P0 and that makes 2 star wars refrences in one designation

  • @nrabe2
    @nrabe2 15 часов назад +12

    I like the background, some pieces I didnt knew. It's easy to focus on the shooty bits of land/sea/air warfare, but everybody, and I mean everybody, needs a reliable, fast, and heavy truck for all the shooty bits to actually shoot. Logistics trumps everything.

  • @mjdoombreed
    @mjdoombreed 15 часов назад +44

    It's like a mini C-5, it's so cute!

  • @Joseph-z7s3b
    @Joseph-z7s3b 4 часа назад +5

    Now I know 3 things about Brazil. 1: Brazil's unending fondness for The Ramones. 2: Brazil's interesting, alternative use for wax. 3: The Millennium. Which apparently flys like a Falcon.

  • @Spartacusse
    @Spartacusse 15 часов назад +60

    That's Brazil for you, we never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

    • @michaelpipkin9942
      @michaelpipkin9942 9 часов назад +5

      Everything in moderation, especially moderation.

    • @rajath275
      @rajath275 7 часов назад +1

      You just described three and a half continents. 😂

    • @gabrielneves6602
      @gabrielneves6602 Час назад

      Nothing like never doing what you can let to do tomorrow

  • @ydenneki
    @ydenneki 10 часов назад +6

    0:52 that's basically where the phrase "While tactics win battles it's logistics that wins wars" comes from! (Which is itself a combination of several phrases from Sun Tsu's 'Art of War' (circa 500 BC)

  • @lucianoandrade5007
    @lucianoandrade5007 14 часов назад +12

    As for the fact that it is a jet aircraft, there is no harm (the excellent C-17 has 4 jet engines and operates on difficult runways used by turboprops), in fact the alleged ability of turboprops to better withstand collision damage with objects on dirt runways were the time of metallic propellers, today they are made of composite which have the tendency to break releasing pieces that can cause severe damage to the fuselage or wing, jet engines are designed for contain this damage internally, without releasing debris, which means they are currently safer.

  • @28ebdh3udnav
    @28ebdh3udnav 15 часов назад +40

    When daddy C 5 and mommy C 17 love each very much, you get this

    • @zurielsss
      @zurielsss 14 часов назад +2

      How do they mate?😊

    • @Sin526
      @Sin526 12 часов назад +10

      The same way all aircraft do, with a probe.

    • @TheRasvic
      @TheRasvic 10 часов назад +1

      @Sin526 I see what u did there

  • @theofficialsikris
    @theofficialsikris 13 часов назад +15

    Can't wait to see the first AC-390.

    • @johannessamuelsson6578
      @johannessamuelsson6578 Час назад

      A ground attack/gunship variant might actually work given the C390's exceptionally low stall speed, improving loitering capabilities.

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 Час назад

      ​@@johannessamuelsson6578wouldnt the jet engine be more vulnerable to the gasses expelled by the weaponry than props are?

  • @rapha4386
    @rapha4386 16 часов назад +38

    Brasil Mencionado!

  • @ricjona1069
    @ricjona1069 3 часа назад +3

    There is no mention of operational cost per flight hour. Maintenance hours per flight hour? Is it capable of a 70-year life span? It has great specs on paper but it's not all about how high, how fast, and how much can be carried. Many militaries are on a budget, and value, durability, and length of service are important. Not to mention survivability. I applaud them for taking the road not traveled (turbo fan), but there is a reason props have remained the preferred method for this function for this many years.

  • @WillieBloom
    @WillieBloom 14 часов назад +18

    Simon Whistler - the hardest working man on RUclips. I mean, it’s impossible to keep him out of my feed. Every evening (CET) it’s new video new video new video and some old ones crop up to boot. Y’all got the algorithm thing cornered.
    Keep up the good work Simon and team. I’m getting a lot of my news from you. I like the deep dives and the near maniacal obsession with impartiality. Can’t say that about many other sources, especially not from the MSM. OSINT and news sources not mired in legacy is where it’s at.
    I suspect that the partisans on the right and the left, while initially popular, will struggle against neutral and nuanced news sources. It’s about building trust. Trust is your bread, butter and jam. And hey, Americans do love British English spoken with impeccable elocution.
    Stay the path. You’ve got a winner. 🏆

    • @GamerX13X
      @GamerX13X 13 часов назад +2

      I think part of the appeal is that most of his writing team isn't american. Its refreshing to get some fair, outside perspective on things happening in the US and abroad, from current events to interest topics.. I consume a combination of content from American and non-american sources for that good balance.

  • @rolandcanacolo6870
    @rolandcanacolo6870 14 часов назад +10

    I love this aircraft. way to go Brazil

  • @pavementsailor
    @pavementsailor 10 часов назад +11

    They had me when they said troop amenities . Flying as a passenger in a C-130 is very noisy and cold.

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 Час назад

      Yeah, i remember freezing my ass off coming back from deployment. There were not enough seats for all of us due to the cargo onboard so half of us had to sleep on the cold metal floor.

  •  14 часов назад +11

    Also The most Badass looking of his tier.

  • @Kevan808
    @Kevan808 14 часов назад +13

    Should've named it the Millennium Falcon.

    • @lucianoandrade5007
      @lucianoandrade5007 13 часов назад +6

      There is an Embraer Phenom 100 jet with an incredible artistic painting that was named 'Millennium Phenom'. Here you will find videos of this machine.

  • @hermanmusimbi4337
    @hermanmusimbi4337 15 часов назад +8

    I was looking for a video on this from you. Hit it out of the park.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 10 часов назад +6

    I mean, i _love_ the A400M and it's a different class, but the C-390 nails the tactical airlift role.

  • @BooyanachYT
    @BooyanachYT 4 часа назад +5

    bit of info on this, Portugal didn't just show an interest in the project, it actually was a part of the development of this plane, it can also produce the plane domestically (for selling to European partners)

  • @nichendrix
    @nichendrix 10 часов назад +3

    Sincerely, the problem with keeping up with parts is a mix of the chaos after the pandemic, plus the chaos after Boeing dropped out fo the joint venture, and the initial delay in many nations procurement for the replacement of their tactical fleet. The fact that they are already producing 50% more planes that what they were expecting for 2030, is proff that Embraer and its suppliers are growing capacity faster than predicted. There are proposals for three new assembly lines, one in Portugal, another in India if the deal comes through, and another in Saudi Arabia. India asks for percentage of indigenous components, which will help unburden Embraer, and a production line in Portugal can improve the logistics with the European Suppliers.

  • @xandedantas2009
    @xandedantas2009 Час назад +1

    The reason why we Brazilians can build such capable aircraft as the C-390 and the A-29 Super Tucano is that Embraer is not a state-owned company. If it were, these projects would be drowning in a sea of corruption and mismanagement.
    And yet, the Brazilian government almost sank the project even without directly intervening, when, in 2014, it made an initial order for 28 C-390s but later reduced the order to only 22 aircraft in 2022, causing significant financial losses for Embraer at the time.

  • @steffenschiller3189
    @steffenschiller3189 4 часа назад +3

    17:33 - I think you said Australia will get 4, but it should be Austria. Easy slip of the tong, brilliant video. Maybe in 50 years time another you-tuber will make a video of the successor of the C-390 which flies with air forces all over the world.

  • @Crimethoughtfull
    @Crimethoughtfull 11 часов назад +11

    It is so weird to see another country deciding to upgrade a prop-plane to a jet-plane for much better performance and capacities...that's supposed to be a US thing! Much respect to Brazil, what a great design!

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 10 часов назад +3

    Has anyone here read “Tom Swift’s Airline Express”, by Franklin W Dixon.. . actually a conglomeration of writing hacks. . . Nut basically an airframe, wings, engines, cockpit, all control surfaces, that picked up a passenger unit at an airport.
    I can see this working. Basically, the containerization of air travel/transport.
    If only I were 60 years younger. . .😊

  • @Bvoid-b
    @Bvoid-b 6 часов назад +2

    Interestingly the closeness to civilian transport grants great comfort for anyone using and also reduced costs with increased reliability.

  • @lonnywilcox445
    @lonnywilcox445 15 часов назад +15

    12 a year will not meet the demand and will result in another company either licensing production or making their own design with the same or better specs and putting it on the market. If they can't get their supply chain in order it will go down as a great plane that was crippled by logistics, which seeing as this is a plane with the main mission of logistics is quite ironic.

    • @konzza
      @konzza 15 часов назад +4

      Most of the aircrafts are being sold and manufactured under licensing contracts.
      Call me dull, but can't see the irony here.

    • @kamui004
      @kamui004 14 часов назад +2

      And that's why they already licensed production in Portugal for European customers.

    • @lonnywilcox445
      @lonnywilcox445 12 часов назад

      @@konzza and how many of the 18 that have been produced were made outside of Brazil? My research says 0. And if the subcontractors can't produce enough parts for Brazilian production, how will they have any hope of meeting demands from 2 production lines.

    • @lucianoandrade5007
      @lucianoandrade5007 11 часов назад +4

      @@kamui004 I'm sorry but your information is not correct. OGMA (Portugal) is a company in the Embraer group, as well as some other companies from several countries, it produces parts of the C-390 and sends it to Embraer in Brazil. What is done exclusively at OGMA is the installation of some equipment for exclusive use by NATO members. There is still no concrete initiative by Embraer to open a 2nd production line outside Brazil, this could happen if a large order is placed (at least 30/40 units) - at the moment there are two main candidates for this: India and Saudi Arabia.

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 9 часов назад +1

      Licensing will improve international relations substantially, but it runs the risk of angering the Americans

  • @rafaelschipiura9865
    @rafaelschipiura9865 12 часов назад +14

    Embraer lost a C-390 bid to the C-130 in New Zealand, but this happened before it entered service and before being certified for Full Operational Capability.
    The bid would make New Zealand the inaugural client for the aircraft, to be able to meet it's urgent needs. That would be too much risk for them. Only the Brazilian Air Force was willing to take on this risk.
    Now they're giving them another chance to adopt the aircraft, in a VIP transport configuration (first customer for this new config), to substitute it's ageing fleet of Boeing 757.

    • @nichendrix
      @nichendrix 10 часов назад +4

      It's no exactly that the Brazilian Airforce was willing to take that risk, it simply paid for the entire development , and initial production run, because it was designed to its own requirements, the Brazilian versions can operate not only on military roles, but help on civilian emergencies, like forest fire control, it can just land and fill its water tanks from any infrastructure and I'd needed be, by a nearby river or lake.
      Because of that the agreement was to place an order that would allow Embraer would break even with just the Brazilian Airforce original order of 36 planes, but when it finally took off and started turning profit on the international market, plus the burden of new budgetary constrains made the Airforce reduce the order to 26 planes, plus a few options. Embraer initially didn't like it, because the success of the program now would hinge on yet to be realized orders from abroad, but the orders just started getting in way faster than expected and that same year the program had enough international orders to break even.

    • @paularthur7386
      @paularthur7386 6 часов назад +1

      i was thinking the same thing. Our new c130J's will make a difference, but once again NZ military procurement missed an opportunity.

    • @latitudesupplychain2188
      @latitudesupplychain2188 4 часа назад

      Yep, I had a facepalm moment when 130Js were selected for RNZAF. Shorter legs, lower capacity in mass and volume, slower etc etc. But a proven frame and minimal changeover effort.

  • @carlosmarcelovellosowendt4598
    @carlosmarcelovellosowendt4598 11 часов назад +2

    Wow, you are really into Brazil stuf, these last couple of months!

  • @CodyRushDriving
    @CodyRushDriving 11 часов назад +3

    Rumor has it the Millennium is even capable of carrying more than FOUR CVS receipts in a pinch, but tests have only been conducted involving two thus far.

  • @Xdgvy
    @Xdgvy 13 часов назад +4

    Random fact for the day:
    The plane in the foreground at 3:33 (765) crashed back in 2020 due to a mid-air collision during refueling. The pilot managed to bring the a/c down and everyone survived.
    TMYK

  • @GS-ey5zj
    @GS-ey5zj Час назад +2

    Simon can you please do a video on the Mitsubishi C-2. I swear it looks just like this one

  • @XZaapryca
    @XZaapryca 4 часа назад +2

    Did I just watch an infomercial for a military aircraft? lol I want one.

  • @MarceloTrindade1
    @MarceloTrindade1 Час назад

    Great video with very comprehensive information. Just one fact was left out: due to the large size of the cockpit windows, the C-390 looks smaller than it really is. That's why its cargo capacity seems unbelievable for such a "small" aircraft.

  • @CMDR_Hadion
    @CMDR_Hadion 14 часов назад +7

    At the 15:45 mark, I think there is some major de-emphasis on just how important STOL capacity is for tactical lift aircraft.
    For a comparison there, the C-130 has a maximum take off length of 1km (1,003m) (fully loaded) from minimally improved surfaces, where the C-390 needs 1.5km to take off fully loaded. Even if the C-390 is only carrying 16 metric tons (to correct for the fact that the C-390 can carry more tonnage), it still needs more than 1km of runway. (Interestingly, both planes have a longer takeoff distance than landing distance, that's usually the inverse for planes).
    That doesn't sound like a lot of distance in favor of the C-130, and it really isn't. The only scenario where that makes any difference is the time to Establishing a beachhead in enemy territory.
    In an offensive or expeditionary war, that's one of if not the most crucial aspect to tactical air logistics. That's why NATO and "NATO-Aggressor" Nations are so gung-ho on Turbo-Props.
    But, for any nations who's militaries aren't organized around Offensive (Peer to Peer) or Expeditionary combat -- otherwise known as "Most Nations" -- the C-390 certainly has a dominant position in the world Defense Market.

    • @aquelegabriel
      @aquelegabriel 10 часов назад +1

      Yes, there are some things that the c390 is worse than the c130.
      However, this is true for basically everything.
      But the millennium can carry more, for longer, faster, and cheaper.
      It's not only cheaper to buy, it's also cheaper and easier to maintain.
      Yes, the issue where the c130 is better IS important. However, everything else is, also, very important.

  • @sabre_phoenix5996
    @sabre_phoenix5996 13 часов назад +3

    Gotta love it when the thumbnail changes mid video lol

  • @genesssisss
    @genesssisss 9 часов назад +1

    This is a beautiful machine! And seems is excellent on its job

  • @SD-tj5dh
    @SD-tj5dh 16 часов назад +10

    Makes me sad as a brit when i see these, knowing we can barely turn out a new tank nowadays.

    • @N911GT2
      @N911GT2 15 часов назад

      the "that will do..." mentality killed Britain.

    • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
      @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 15 часов назад

      Here me out, get your shit together as a country? As an American I love my British ancestors and allies but what that government is doing to their national defense and global trade position is just reckless.
      The British government is talking about a relation reboot with China implying they want to get warmer with them. Bonkers. Best of luck, I hope you guys give those politicians hell and get back to doing their jobs properly.

    • @craigsowers8456
      @craigsowers8456 6 часов назад +2

      Don't be sad ... the C-130J Program is far from finished and regardless what you hear in this VBlog, the C-390 is no match for other missions ... or length of service. Without the UK single source subcontractors like Rolls Royce Engines, GKN Nacelles, Dowty Carbon Fiber Prop systems and a host of others, the Super Herc wouldn't be the Aircraft it is today. Be proud Mate ... the UK is pulling its' weight just fine !

    • @davidgoodnow269
      @davidgoodnow269 2 часа назад

      Just need a new incarnation of Alvis to come up with a new CVRT! Jobs, jobs, and more jobs . . . size it to pack two or three in full kit and crew aboard one of these C-390s or a C-130 while still keeping a good range to the airplane . . . If a flight of four transports can deliver twelve ready to roll, three of each ATGM, light autocannon + laser + maser for air defense, and heavy mortar (BAE breech loading 120mm for preference) or a medium cannon (maybe the 50mm Bushmaster V, maybe a 57mm/60mm autocannon, or a single-shot version of the Otto-Mellara 76mm naval cannon), and a headquarters trio of medics, communications/HQ, and technical (repair, possibly doubling as a drone maintainer), I could see that being an export sale to anyone that is buying the C390. Just don't waste a lot of time and money on bells and whistles, Keep It Simple (with really good maintenance and low ground pressure)!

  • @warmachine9553
    @warmachine9553 9 часов назад +1

    Simon Whistlers added a new title to his already extensive CV. Head of Sales Embraer Aircraft.

  • @shyamdevadas6099
    @shyamdevadas6099 9 часов назад +1

    Glad to hear the Embraer is doing well. (Now, if the rest of Brazil can get its act together, they may just survive the next 30 years.)

  •  15 часов назад +6

    Ok, I will buy one

  • @Bramon83
    @Bramon83 9 часов назад +1

    when you look at lockheed with not envious eyes but wonderous joy.... you get planes like this.

    • @PaladinodoCerradooficial
      @PaladinodoCerradooficial Час назад

      Embraer looks like Santos Dummond, not like catapult airplane. Thats the true. And to surppas Lockheed in comercial sells, thats pure envy like a Smoking Sneak.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 4 часа назад

    1:45 - Chapter 1 - Design & development
    9:40 - Chapter 2 - Specs & capabilities
    15:50 - Chapter 3 - Operation & rapid adoption

  • @seandurgin
    @seandurgin 15 часов назад +12

    Would love to see a civilian version

    • @PaladinodoCerradooficial
      @PaladinodoCerradooficial Час назад

      mee too, this is why Boing try buy Embraer, to take your engenniers and put this plane in his hands. Now the company is only in Brazil hands that came to bring us more and more ''loot'' when new buyers from C390 show up.

    • @johannessamuelsson6578
      @johannessamuelsson6578 Час назад

      You'd only really make a civilian version of a military airlifter for procurement reasons, like Lockheed Martin is doing with the LM-100J. Fire departments and special air cargo companies obviously can't do military procurement.

  • @stradivarioushardhiantz5179
    @stradivarioushardhiantz5179 10 часов назад +3

    Re-engined w/ Leap-1A would be great

  • @shadow7037932
    @shadow7037932 7 часов назад +1

    It's ironic that the production of the C390 supply/logistic aircraft is being impacted by the not having proper supply chain logistics lol.

  • @x316RiotMakerx
    @x316RiotMakerx 15 часов назад +3

    I don’t think it was mentioned. But if I’m not mistaken, there is a specific reason for the C-130 being a propeller drive plane. That is because is it meant to be able to take off and land on unprepared landing strips where there is a higher chance for jet engines to ingest debris and cause damage.

    • @sinocte
      @sinocte 15 часов назад +12

      Yep, and it's why the Millenium chose the high wings, to keep the engines further off the ground for the same reason.

    • @bertnl530
      @bertnl530 15 часов назад +7

      This plane is also able to do that. Propellers have their own vulnerability. If something hits a blade, that aeroplane is out of order too. Another thing is that this plane is like 65-70% of the price for a Hercules. Payload is very high, many parts are also used on civil aeroplanes. The engines are used by Airbus for example. The A400 M is seen as a very good plane, but it very expensive.

    • @enso3140
      @enso3140 14 часов назад +5

      Yes but that doesn't mean that jet engines can't be operated safely on gravel or improvised runaways even regular passenger planes can be fitted with gravel landing capabilty and the c390 with its high wings can also do it perfectly safe as it demonstrated multiple times during testing and operations

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 12 часов назад +4

      @@bertnl530the A400M is also a whole lot bigger than the C390. It’s a bit of an unfair comparison. The 400 is between a C17 and a 130 both in range and capacity. It’s a different sort of plane

  • @harveyh3696
    @harveyh3696 16 часов назад +25

    C-390 divided by 3 would be C-130. Coincidence?

    • @user-jg6bd7se8u
      @user-jg6bd7se8u 15 часов назад +7

      Mom spelled backwards is mom... coincidence???

    • @victorc8855
      @victorc8855 15 часов назад +9

      "we want to make a tactical airlifter than is 3 times better than the hercules" - embraer, probably

    • @harveyh3696
      @harveyh3696 15 часов назад

      @@victorc8855 I think it awesome that Embraer has been making world class aircraft for years.

    • @nicolasbombado6116
      @nicolasbombado6116 14 часов назад +7

      Yes. The C-390 is a project based on the commercial aircraft E-190. The "C" stands for "cargo," and all Embraer military aircraft start with the number 3 (like the EMB 314 super tucano).
      E-190 + Cargo + 300 series = C-390

  • @edilsoncosta5733
    @edilsoncosta5733 5 часов назад

    Simply the best aircraft in its category!

  • @sgt_loeram1933
    @sgt_loeram1933 8 часов назад +1

    I honestly thought the Airbus A400 was going to be the future of tactical transports

  • @Zak6959
    @Zak6959 15 часов назад +3

    18:14 Columbia for 12, interesting, very interesting.

  • @mrtlsimon
    @mrtlsimon 12 часов назад +1

    This can be the best aircraft in the world, but if the orders can't be filled in a reasonable time frame, it will become a "could have been". So far, it has great specifications, but only 20 planes. The C130J is currently coming off the line while providing replacement aircraft for older planes without the need to retrain crews and maintenance personnel.

    • @bayoudog1
      @bayoudog1 11 часов назад +1

      There is also a well established spare part supply chain and hundreds of retired aircraft that can be used for spares with the C-130. The C-130 IS battle tested and can take a punishing amount of damage and keep on chugging. I dont think the 390 would be as rugged in a combat environment. Beautiful plane though.

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren 12 часов назад +1

    The RNA bought 5 of these to replace the Herculeses we’ve been using for the past 40 years.
    Ps. The A400M is closer to a C17 then a Hercules

  • @sisenor4091
    @sisenor4091 10 часов назад

    Simon is getting buffed 💪

  • @craigsowers8456
    @craigsowers8456 4 часа назад +1

    Dear Simon,
    A few things to consider before you throw all your chips into the C-390. First and foremost, know not all airframes are created equal. I’ve personally been around the C-390 (prototypes since the beginning in Portugal) and directly on the Alenia C-27J (at Alenia in Italy). These and all others are "lap constructed"; have a hard landing or literally crash and you'll know why this approach isn't so good; like it or not, "Gravity" works 24/7 and shit happens. What the C-130J offers that NO OTHER airframe does is it is a "Dimpled" constructed ... that's over 100,000 rivets manually bucked into the Fuselage since first flight in AUG 1954 at Burkbank, CA. The Herc is literally "built twice" in this manufacturing process and hope you can appreciate the rotational stress benefits this joining system provides when needed and no "robotic" approach can ever be implemented ... it has to be done by hand and at a significant penalty when Labor charges are applied. There’s a reason why USAF and other End Users won’t let us change to the much less expensive process of simple “lap” method. The Davis-Monthan “Boneyard” in Arizona is full of examples.
    I have to disagree the C-130J is not “21st Century technology” imbued. Yes, the older C-130’s are aging and will need to be replaced and for certain missions the C-390 could be a viable option. But not for all. Back to Airframe, know that the Trailing Edge is Carbon Fiber and single sourced from Portugal’s “OGMA” (Embraer owns 49%) and the first ply laid is “Copper Mesh”. Why you ask? Well, when you fly a WC-130J thru a Hurricane to gather data, your bird takes 36 Lightning Strikes on average with each pass and the Copper absorbs that energy and routes it out the static discharge system. All others tend to get “burn thru” holes in their TE’s … not a good thing when flying … that “Gravity” deal again. Not only that but a significant benefit to strength and weight savings (an add to GTW of course) using Carbon Fiber. Note the traditional TE panels (Aluminum) blew (literally) off when the Rolls Royce Engines were introduced … the vibration from those monster Engines was epic !!! Then there’s the fact the Super Herc is fully “Glass Cockpit” (older versions are not), a Belly that is now safeguarded against corrosion (Blood, Guts and Fuel’s tend to rot them out on Cargo platforms and require costly replacement over time) and other enhancements not found on previous versions or platforms like the C-390.
    Then there are the terrors of the Sky C-130J versions. “AC” versions (MC/MD) that tote 40mm guns, a 105mm Cannon and ready for integration of future “Laser” based weapons make it formidable and unmatched; you don’t see Jet Aircraft (like C-390, C-17 or others) attempting to onboard these types of weapons systems … very unstable if not a Prop Aircraft and would rattle themselves out of the sky (again, those “Dimples”). Ask any “Sandbox” (Middle East) combatant (if still alive) what their least favorite Aircraft to see in the Sky and they’ll all say “AC-130J’s” … may be “slower” than Jets but their “TOT” is like a never-ending Apache gun ship; can’t go into its’ fire control systems but trust me, it is all seeing.
    BTW, throwing in the A-400M isn’t really in the same target market since an End User can purchase 3.5 C-130J’s to 1 A-400M’s price (for only 9 cubic meters more Cargo space BTW); “French Pride” comes always with extra cost. Even more C-390’s could be purchased but we’ll see how many make it to Fleet use or the Bone Yard when the Super Herc is still in service. And let’s not forget the Antarctic Missions … probably won’t see a C-390 with requisite “Skis” on them and tougher LZ’s down there still can’t use those platforms with “Jet Engines”. “Ice Crystals” are still considered “FOD”.
    While the C-130J is “USA Made”, the success has and remains with the shared tech from many Countries, many of which are “Single Source/Designed”. A reminder that an Aircraft is nothing more than millions of Spare Parts flying in close formation (a little Aerospace humor). After 40 years in Aerospace, there is one constant I’ve noticed regardless of Aircraft Type, Maker or Mission: “You don’t get there alone”. Meaning that without a fully integrated “CoProduction” workshare there’s little chance of Production longevity. If you look into it, the reason the F-16 Falcon and C-130 Programs are the two longest running Production Programs since the beginning of powered flight is down to that simple formula. “No Man is an Island” is applicable to Aircraft manufacturing as well if you want to be in business for a (very) long time. And you rightly point out the Bottle Neck Embraer faces in timely delivery capacity; just ask the French Airforce why they had to buy 6 new C-130J’s to bridge the NATO/OTAN required Mission Cap levels until their A-400M’s would be arriving. Note the C-130J Program hit 36 Aircraft per year at peak rate ~ just takes time, money and a robust “CoProduction” effort; the “Logistics” part is applicable not just on the battle field. Embraer has a hellava Mountain to climb.
    The C-130J Program is far from finished and regardless what you say in this Vlog, the C-390 is no match for the totality of C-130J Super Herc missions ... or length of service (those pesky “Dimples” again). As a Brit, know this, without the UK single source subcontractors like Rolls Royce Engines (36,000 shaft HP each … that get you to a service ceiling of FL500 BTW at a climb rate of 2,800 FPM to avoid those RPG’s on take off), GKN Nacelles, Dowty Carbon Fiber Prop systems and a host of others, the Super Herc wouldn't be the Aircraft it is today. Be proud Mate ... the UK is pulling its' weight just fine !
    Cheers mate.

    • @davidgoodnow269
      @davidgoodnow269 Час назад

      I had read that the C-130J was a rebuild of existing C-130 aircraft, back when the C-130J was first being trialed, because the C-130 was no longer in production . . . and that was decades ago! Then, recently, I read in an Australian newspaper that Australia had license to build the C-130 because no-one was making them new, and Australia absolutely had to have new C-130s because its existing birds were worn beyond repair; the last update story on that I read was that the new factory was just opened.
      So, what's this about "still building them" you started with?

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 10 часов назад +1

    I’m gonna tell you here. . . As a pilot. . . If you force me to use mire than ONE engine, I want as many as I can get.
    That 2nd engine will always get you to the scene of the crash

  • @GBiv78
    @GBiv78 Час назад

    Looks a lot like a BAE146, which was also a fantastic plane

  • @floriankimutai8543
    @floriankimutai8543 15 часов назад +3

    Make one video for the kawasaki c-2

  • @catchepicair
    @catchepicair 15 часов назад +4

    I have enduring hope people remember the plural of aircraft is not aircrafts ......

  • @kevinh6622
    @kevinh6622 9 часов назад +1

    It's not exactly selling like hotcakes. I realize the Portuguese, Brazilians, and Hungarians like it.

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 8 часов назад

    Interesting , Thank You . Good1

  • @davidblair9877
    @davidblair9877 6 часов назад

    I wonder if the E.U.-Mercosur trade agreement could alleviate some of the supply shortages which Embraer faces? The E.U. has problems, lots of them, but one thing it does have in great abundance is highly skilled technical companies and engineers who would likely be more than happy to supply parts.

  • @Sarge-at-Large
    @Sarge-at-Large 9 часов назад +1

    11:39 What exactly does “a highly accessible toilet” necessitate? 😅

    • @voivode2591
      @voivode2591 6 часов назад

      A P tube every 10’ along each side

  • @AlexandreSantosBR
    @AlexandreSantosBR 14 часов назад +2

    Brazil created the first ever aircraft and now created the best one.

  • @nickmcgookin247
    @nickmcgookin247 12 часов назад +1

    Its got big "mini c-5" vibes !!

  • @eviebean3
    @eviebean3 9 часов назад +1

    Wow it only took 70 years to outclass the C130.

  • @drewrubtheMando
    @drewrubtheMando 10 часов назад

    Civvie here. I like this plane. Very pretty and sounds like a beast.

  • @johndavies6253
    @johndavies6253 12 часов назад

    Feels like they need to increase production capability significantly if they want to head off the risk of potential customers going elsewhere or developing their own. It does sound like they have a potential winner on their hands though!

  • @fensoxx
    @fensoxx 11 часов назад

    Every time he says Embraer I hear Embracer the scourge of the video game developing world and I get bile in my throat.

  • @Stant123
    @Stant123 10 часов назад

    19:55 This is what's known as irony. A vehicle designed and built to modernize and/or improve military supply lines is itself hampered by the need for modernized and/or improved supply lines.

  • @Fn-xj8hl
    @Fn-xj8hl 3 часа назад +1

    Thats not a C295, just another angle of the C27J.

  • @rikardnorlen752
    @rikardnorlen752 14 часов назад +2

    Good its good since Sweden seem to buy it !

  • @jeebusk
    @jeebusk 15 часов назад +1

    I'm actually fascinated by logistics,

  • @rpeterson223
    @rpeterson223 4 часа назад

    Make it happen, “We the People “ want two versions, obviously the budget $12K model and the D4D DIESEL version!!

  • @LaMirah
    @LaMirah 13 часов назад +1

    12:30 AAAAHHHH! VAMPIRE!!!

    • @thiagopepper
      @thiagopepper 5 часов назад

      I LOL’d waaaay harder than I should.
      For those of you failing to understand the joke, that’s former Brazilian president Michel Temer (2016-2018). He was the VP for president Dilma Rousseff’s second term, and became president when Rousseff was impeached for a fiscal maneuver that fell into a legal grey area. Two days later the Temer presidency and congress passed a bill clarifying that Rousseff’s criminal maneuver was legal, and later on Brazil’s Supreme Court found Rousseff innocent of any crimes. One of the main parties that pushed for her impeachment was Temer’s, the same party that ruled congress at the time, and for many Brazilians, this was a sneaky backstabbing from Temer and his party in order for him to ascend to power, especially due to the timing of the bill that turned Rousseff’s “criminal” actions into something completely legal after her Impeachment.
      Due to the supposed shadiness of Temer’s actions, his advanced age and his likeness to Coppola’s Bram Stoker's Dracula, Brazilians joke that he is a vampire, with him being portrayed as such in movies and other media.
      Fun fact: the boardgame Zombicide Green Horde has a “bloodsucking necromancer” character named Count Temeraire that looks suspiciously like Michel Temer.

  • @longtabsigo
    @longtabsigo 8 часов назад

    0:27 that’s me. Where did you get this snippet?

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r 3 часа назад

    Super cool airplane. Just have a soft spot for these rugged, STOL capable cargo planes.

  • @Royce16727
    @Royce16727 12 часов назад

    Great video! Cool plane; Lockheed Martin better watch out for Brazil… BBL's, turboprop attack aircraft, and tactical cargo planes; is there anything they can't do?
    Still hate the outro music, though. Lol

  • @benjaminepstein5856
    @benjaminepstein5856 4 часа назад

    @2:46 today I found out that the Mriya was someone's grandfather

  • @pliniobass
    @pliniobass 7 часов назад +1

    We just need now a president that isn't fucked up.

  • @tiagorossotto572
    @tiagorossotto572 15 часов назад +6

    Embraer do nices airplanes

  • @tonnywildweasel8138
    @tonnywildweasel8138 6 часов назад

    Fantastic plane 👍

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 10 часов назад

    0:04 Tea bags, coffee bags and a big jar of Bovril.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 10 часов назад

      0:22 No no, really, hot drinks.
      That's all we need

  • @300guy
    @300guy 8 часов назад

    You notice the not so subtle hint that C390 must be 3X the transporter that the C130 is!

  • @jeffreyrose4240
    @jeffreyrose4240 4 часа назад

    Alright Brazil.. Nicely done

  • @TvrdakTom
    @TvrdakTom 15 часов назад +2

    🇨🇿 contract signed for 2 airplane with full equipments.
    Slovakia considering 3ks to buy

  • @mizake01
    @mizake01 14 часов назад

    How many Simon Whistlers exist ? The world may never know . . .

  • @grimreaper6557
    @grimreaper6557 12 часов назад

    I wonder if it could be a gunship like the AC130 spector now that would be something to see

  • @paulohenriquearaujofaria7306
    @paulohenriquearaujofaria7306 Час назад

    I feel proud of being a Brazilian... but it is a rare moment. I did not last much time...

  • @johnjohnson7070
    @johnjohnson7070 3 часа назад +1

    Ah. Come on. New and shiny maybe, but its just an air-truck. Revolutionary is something else.