@@denlfc123 got a few on strapsco. They have a good selection and weren't overly priced. Quality was quite good. A black rally strap works nicely I think.
Same here. Would have liked a racer bezel instead of the diver bezel; however, I am very happy with my purchase and the price I got my Panda at was a win.
Me too. I think the proportions of each of the elements are better considered. Which, come to think of it, shouldnt come as a surprise really, thats what Seiko has proven they’re good at over and over again.
I have this orient and i can tell you i love it! The case finishing is a step above typical makos with a mix of high polish beveling and fine brushing as opposed to the slab sided brushed seiko. The orient dial is very intricate as well. Some may say that the diving bezel is an odd choice for a chrono but i find it very useful as a count down timer and the chrono as a stop watch. Also having 200m water resistance is a huge plus. I agree the bracelet is crap but at least most of the budget went to the head of the watch. The dimensions are quite deceiving as width measures above 42mm from 10 and 4 but when measured from 12 to 6 it’s actually 41mm so the watch wears smaller than specs suggest. Solar quartz is awesome making it super accurate, convenient and robust.
I got the orient for 300 , saving 340 over getting the sekio,which I put towards a bulova Jet star, don't regret it for a second it's a great practical everyday watch.
I do like the Yellow face Pogue, the colors are beautiful. Just got one, and I’m very happy. I like the update from the old. Old Pogue had a day/date, and the current TAN one you showed looks a bit boring.
I have the yellow gold version as mvc talked about at the end and can only say im so happy with it, looks good on every different strap i put on , right now on a miltat jubille from strapcode 🙂
I don’t mind the diver bezel on the Orient. I have a few chronographs- a Citizen solar, Casio, even 2 Tags. Honestly don’t use the tachometer scale much but would use the diver bezel. Would have to see what looks best on my 6.5 in wrist. Thanks Russ.
The orient neo 70’s solar panda I believe would be a better choice from orient. And maybe a better alternative than this orient if one does not wish to pay seiko prices. Thoughts? And if memory serves. You can get a solid endink nice bracelet for it aftermarket.
GREAT VIDEO!!! I noticed Epson Corp stamped on the back: In 2001 Seiko Epson (one of three core companies of the Seiko Group) became the majority shareholder (52%) of the company. Orient Watch became a wholly owned subsidiary of Epson in 2009. So with that I am amazed Orient isn't using Seiko movements.
I think it's pretty cool that Orient have their own movements, especially seemingly being pretty similar in case of specs etc to the Seiko movements (at least their basic ones); Considering the ownership of these companies. I personally hope that will last.
you are wrong, Seiko Epson is an independent company(stock code: 6724), seiko group is another company(stock code: 8050), seiko group use the movement that made by seiko epson
The Orient really is a nice piece. Love the look! I just wouldn't buy one when I want a racing chrono as it's a diver so I believe both watches aren't that comparable. Hollow endlinks and pressed clasp on the Orient are a bummer in 2024 as well. Otherwise a beautiful watch and a good deal if you just search for a panda chrono and put another strap on the watch anyway. The SEIKO is almost perfect when you're searching for a racing chrono and don't want to pay TAG Heuer Carrera prices but it's still way too expensive at ~700 msrp IMO.
The Speedtimer is just so good looking, it kicked the Hanhart 417 off my wrist. I put it on a Sinn leather strap I wasn't using, and it's a perfect match.
Seiko looks great. However, they have reached the point where their watches have gotten too expensive for most collectors. I hope Orient can take advantage of this by coming up with fresh designs at more affordable prices.
Got the tan dial Speedtimer last week, hasn't left my wrist. Killer watch for the price- checks a lot of boxes. the looks are stellar, the dial color is unique, the weight feels great, the bracelet is solid. I'd say it's by far the better choice of these two.
My parents and I bought the orient last May of this year and after the purchase I immediately removed the sticker on the caseback when we got home 😰 Should I be worried?
Not really my style of watch but I can appreciate it for what it is.. Orient Bambino version 8 is my favorite from the lineup not a big fan of the Roman numerals but the watch is just beautiful to me... Seiko is nice too... But only have one of their watches (the square Recraft in green, looks like a tank watch)... it's okay, and only use it here and there, anyways, I'll stick with Orient Casio citizen Tissot timex for being a price range I can afford and the quality still there... But would love to get my hands on the Hamilton field watch to see if I like it... 😎✌️
I honestly fancy the Orient. I like the rotating bezel which is more useful than the useless tachometer on the Seiko. It has a screw down crown and the dial size suits me more as I think the Seiko is too small for my 7.5" wrist. However, I like the charging indicator in the Seiko.
Loved the comparison and Seiko losing a lume battle is a shocker indeed. Those Clockwork Republic straps are definitely intriguing. I'm now considering one for my Turtle.
You are right, the proportions on the Seiko are very nice but, the offset of the date window on the Seiko stands out like a sore thumb in my eyes. I like larger watches and the date window is better positioned on the Orient. My pick, « the Orient » Another great show Russ! Keep it up! 😅👍🏼
I definitely prefer the Seiko, however , I do think the diver fans who want the diver feel but the chrono look, the Orient is an excellent choice. I have Orients, a dress watch, a Mako XL diver and a Japanese market Panda 3 subdial chronograph and I changed the bracelets on them all. I think the difference in price shows, but if you put a good quality strap or bracelet on the Orient, it could change the perception a lot. My Pulsar Solar has a ceramic tachymeter bezel that looks better than the one on the Seiko. And Seiko owns Pulsar. I'd have loved to see that tachymeter on the Seiko !
I have the Seiko and it shares time with my Omega PO Seamaster. I love the Seiko. I don't feel like I have put on a "cheap watch" after wearing the much more expensive Omega. It is very nice but I do hate the 24 hour sub dial, not useful at all but in fairness I almost never push the buttons anyway lol.
The Seiko is such a winner. Hard to beat in the looks department. Solar quartz is a huge bonus. Another place to look for affordable full mechanical is the Sugess 39 Chrono.
I've been posting this everywhere about comparing these two. I think you probably read something I posted. I'm glad you did this comparison. But there's more! You should have thrown in that cheap Sbpy165 to compare also.... And dare I say you could also include the Neo 70s 🐼. Love your channel sir. I watch it constantly
I own the Orient in Black. Swapped the stock bracelet for a shark mesh. Looks killer now. I think comparing it with the Seiko diver chronos with the Sumo case would be more fair.
I have the Seiko and personally I think it's in a completely different league to the Orient. In every single department. The WR is not a big deal as a 100m is more than sufficient. Great vid mate.
Great show as always MWC and a very useful comparison. I think both watches are great for their respective places in the market. For me, the Seiko wins straight away given it has the tachymeter bezel rather than the Orients diver countdown bezel. Even though a timing bezel is probably more useful to me than a tachymeter, a chronograph needs a tachymeter, right? 😂
I have the orange chronograph It’s a beautiful timepiece A friend purchased it from seiko dreams in Ginza £150 cheaper than the uk rrp I can’t believe just how good it looks The sunburst orange really plays with the light Would you have a different opinion if you had one to try and if it had nothing to do with the Pogue story and was just a different colour scheme. Seiko boutique sold all its stock before it was officially released I think that says something It is a unique looking piece and being 41mm it feels incredibly heavy for a quartz watch. People are already trying to flip on EBay for a profit Don’t knock it because of the Pogue story It’s not a fair reason to slate it
Seiko all the way. What are your thoughts on Squale Sub-39 GMT Vintage Blue? This is my latest acquisition, and it took me ages to rule out Doxa and Zodiac.
Go the Seiko, not that much more just wait for a good deal (like anything SEIKO). Looks a lot better and solar. Still love the Mako 2/3/Komasu, very nice for what it is and made in Japan. Perfect once you put it on an island watch jubilee.
Thanks for the reviews, I’ve been considering both watches myself. I think Seiko has made the size 41mm now which is probably better for me. Agree about the Orient style, they could have made an original design. Still, 2 nice watches 👍
3 dial chrono's have never been my thing, but my bigest gripe is "the Date Window" why do they still put them on watches like this? They un balance the layout of the dial, both look like they were shoehorned in
I wanted a panda chronograph just for the looks. The seiko was 675 euros and the orient was 220 euro. It was an easy win for the orient. I changed immediatelly the bracellet on the orient with a silicon one and the watch is amazing. For the mazority of peaple that just want the looks of a panda watch and do not want to go to the chinese market, the orient is a cleat winner.
@@SamuraiJackson Me personally? Only at the track, and only when I am curious what someone's average speed is through a certain section, which is not very often. But that isn't really the point. A big timer hand chrono's main purpose is to line up with a tachymeter, otherwise, it would just be one of the sub dials. But on a more macro level, my, or anyone else's specific use case for a watch exists independently of what that watch should be: I don't dive to 300m, but I still expect my dive watches to be water proof.
Get your hands on a Seiko Ripley reissue, it knocks both of these chronographs out of the park. Also, they're less bulkier for those with smaller wrists.
Hi Mad, and thanks for sharing your thoughts, observations and passion once again with us. Quick question though, Which Orient Automatic , in your opinion, will be the best value for money?
I know you are asking him, but I'd say you can't go wrong with a Kamasu, Mako III, or baby triton if looking at a diver (baby triton if you want a larger bezel). For a dresser watch I prefer an open heart or sun and moon bambino. But it's all about personal preference.
Both are very similar technically, but the Orient has 20 bar WR, better lume and cost half the price. To me, is the clear winner, also because, IMO, it's looks just better (Seiko looks good too, but it's just too small for my taste)
I dunnoooo... Kinda leaning to the Orient here. If it wears the same as my Mako, no reason I wouldn't like it. It has some shortcomings compared to the Seiko, but I think they're justified, given the significant price difference. Better water resistance and lume, to boot. I do wish Orient would do something about that logo, though.
Greatly enjoyed the video, but I don’t think any of us had to watch to know the Orient is a great watch, but the Seiko is better and worth the money. Thanks!
@@jacobguedj8554I don’t think it’s three times the price (or at least I hope you didn’t pay that much), but I see your point about the Orient. I love my Kamasu.
I like the orient for its unique concept and design. Chrono in a diver is a cool concept in my view. No doubt seiko is higher quality but seems relative to price.
i’d say both are equally worth for the price point, seiko better but pricier, orient a bit cheaper but not as good as seiko. but well priced so both are worth it
If you're looking for a more affordable JDM Quartz chronograph, I recommend the Hyakuichi 101 Chronograph. It comes with beautiful dials and color ways, a solid end link steel bracelet, and ceramic bezel. Did I mention it's JDM?
I considered both, the Seiko's pricey albeit a deal was possible when I made enquiries, the Orient's on the big side. Ended up buying a Hoffman which was kind of nuts for other reasons.
Seiko have churned out a lot of cr@p over the last few years but the Seitona is not one of them! I bought it a couple of years back and still love it, everything about it ticks all of my own personal boxes and I would happily pay the additional money for it
the Seiko hour n minute hands are more to my liking but the Orient dive bezel is useful whereas the tachy not so much and prefer Orients 22mm lugs. But since they both have three subdials I have no interest in my choice is something else
I like a lot of the Orient models i just cant get over the logo, it looks like something found on a pack of smokes. They really need to update it to a more modern one I like Seiko too but find they've lost their biggest benefit, their affordability. My preferred Seiko chronograph, thought, is the SSB383P1 and im also looking at an Alpinist.
The deal breaker is the Orient's bezel. It's got that aluminum painted bezel in a bottle cap style form. Citizen have the same style in their Dive watches at these price points. To be fair the Seitona is only one with a better Bezel; the rest of the speed timer line use similar aluminum painted bezels; that's why for me the Seitona is the best Speed Timer Model in it's class. That being said, as a Seiko fan I would like to see the next gens with Radio Tech and possibly higher KHz ala Citizen Blue Angels line.
I would think Orient is good enough having a solar chrono and sapphire crystal and 200m water resistance. The price advantage definitely is a plus too. Seiko is too Daytona homage, Orient is actually more original.
The second-hand of the chronograph on the Orient is too short. I think that on a decent chronograph, it should at least "touch" or overlap the markers on the second-track.
The Orient is nice, but it looks a bit more oriental. 🤷🏻♂️ I’d take the Orient, but I have a Pagani PD-1701 that I like for a chronograph daily wearer.
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I have the orient chronograph and I love it. Wears really nice and matches loads of straps. I would recommend it to anyone.
What straps would you recommend?, I have the orient too
@@denlfc123 got a few on strapsco. They have a good selection and weren't overly priced. Quality was quite good. A black rally strap works nicely I think.
I got the Orient a few months ago. It's one of my favorite watches now.
Same here. Would have liked a racer bezel instead of the diver bezel; however, I am very happy with my purchase and the price I got my Panda at was a win.
Prefer the look of the Seiko over the Orient
Me too. I think the proportions of each of the elements are better considered. Which, come to think of it, shouldnt come as a surprise really, thats what Seiko has proven they’re good at over and over again.
This Orient was my best watch purchase of 2023, considering it’s price and how good the watch is 👌
Great Purchase. I'd get that way before the speedtimer. Soley bc of the cost. I'm not paying close to $500 for a seiko..
I have this orient and i can tell you i love it! The case finishing is a step above typical makos with a mix of high polish beveling and fine brushing as opposed to the slab sided brushed seiko. The orient dial is very intricate as well. Some may say that the diving bezel is an odd choice for a chrono but i find it very useful as a count down timer and the chrono as a stop watch. Also having 200m water resistance is a huge plus. I agree the bracelet is crap but at least most of the budget went to the head of the watch. The dimensions are quite deceiving as width measures above 42mm from 10 and 4 but when measured from 12 to 6 it’s actually 41mm so the watch wears smaller than specs suggest. Solar quartz is awesome making it super accurate, convenient and robust.
I got the orient for 300 , saving 340 over getting the sekio,which I put towards a bulova Jet star, don't regret it for a second it's a great practical everyday watch.
Excellent choice. I did the same.
I joined the clockwork republic train after seeing them on your channel and oh boy what a change. This is how any seiko diver should be worn. So good
Mad is a die-hard Seiko fan.
That's just him!
Thanks for the great presention bud.
Mad is an aSshole seiko lover bro
Thanks man
I do like the Yellow face Pogue, the colors are beautiful. Just got one, and I’m very happy. I like the update from the old. Old Pogue had a day/date, and the current TAN one you showed looks a bit boring.
I have the yellow gold version as mvc talked about at the end and can only say im so happy with it, looks good on every different strap i put on , right now on a miltat jubille from strapcode 🙂
Clickity click bezel test, jingly jangly bracelet test. Love these technical tests.
Just love the Orient, in fact I probably wear the Orient's more than any of the others, great review
I like the orient bracelets, usually just change the clasp on a "milled" one with adjust
I don’t mind the diver bezel on the Orient. I have a few chronographs- a Citizen solar, Casio, even 2 Tags. Honestly don’t use the tachometer scale much but would use the diver bezel. Would have to see what looks best on my 6.5 in wrist. Thanks Russ.
Orient! Without any doubt! Mad, you're the Best! Hola desde ,🇪🇸
Seiko all the way on this one, but do love my Orient Ray 2, it's an almost perfect watch (sapphire and better bracelet/clasp needed)
Since I bought my Ray 2, I haven't felt tempted to upgrade to a more expensive diver. I do wish it had a bigger, grippier crown, though.
The orient neo 70’s solar panda I believe would be a better choice from orient. And maybe a better alternative than this orient if one does not wish to pay seiko prices. Thoughts? And if memory serves. You can get a solid endink nice bracelet for it aftermarket.
came here to say this 👆 , i think the neo70 would be an appropriate comparison instead of the mako panda
I love my Orient Panda Mako Chrono. I put it on a white FKM rubber strap and its just....My ahhh Chefs kiss.
GREAT VIDEO!!! I noticed Epson Corp stamped on the back: In 2001 Seiko Epson (one of three core companies of the Seiko Group) became the majority shareholder (52%) of the company. Orient Watch became a wholly owned subsidiary of Epson in 2009. So with that I am amazed Orient isn't using Seiko movements.
I think it's pretty cool that Orient have their own movements, especially seemingly being pretty similar in case of specs etc to the Seiko movements (at least their basic ones); Considering the ownership of these companies. I personally hope that will last.
you are wrong, Seiko Epson is an independent company(stock code: 6724), seiko group is another company(stock code: 8050), seiko group use the movement that made by seiko epson
I think you have sold me on the Seiko now Russ. Great review as usual buddy 👍🙏
The Orient really is a nice piece. Love the look!
I just wouldn't buy one when I want a racing chrono as it's a diver so I believe both watches aren't that comparable. Hollow endlinks and pressed clasp on the Orient are a bummer in 2024 as well. Otherwise a beautiful watch and a good deal if you just search for a panda chrono and put another strap on the watch anyway.
The SEIKO is almost perfect when you're searching for a racing chrono and don't want to pay TAG Heuer Carrera prices but it's still way too expensive at ~700 msrp IMO.
The Speedtimer is just so good looking, it kicked the Hanhart 417 off my wrist. I put it on a Sinn leather strap I wasn't using, and it's a perfect match.
Seiko looks great. However, they have reached the point where their watches have gotten too expensive for most collectors.
I hope Orient can take advantage of this by coming up with fresh designs at more affordable prices.
Good comparison. Have the Seiko since 2 yrs. bought many watches since then. But the Speedtona will stay in my rotation. Get going 🚀
Got the tan dial Speedtimer last week, hasn't left my wrist. Killer watch for the price- checks a lot of boxes. the looks are stellar, the dial color is unique, the weight feels great, the bracelet is solid. I'd say it's by far the better choice of these two.
My parents and I bought the orient last May of this year and after the purchase I immediately removed the sticker on the caseback when we got home 😰 Should I be worried?
Seiko is a better watch than the Orient.I like to buy “cheap” watches sometimes, but between Seiko and Orient it’s an easy choice.
I appreciate and respect your honesty review and opinion 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
Not really my style of watch but I can appreciate it for what it is.. Orient Bambino version 8 is my favorite from the lineup not a big fan of the Roman numerals but the watch is just beautiful to me... Seiko is nice too... But only have one of their watches (the square Recraft in green, looks like a tank watch)... it's okay, and only use it here and there, anyways, I'll stick with Orient Casio citizen Tissot timex for being a price range I can afford and the quality still there... But would love to get my hands on the Hamilton field watch to see if I like it... 😎✌️
I'm just playing with my Citizen Challenge timer bullhead chronograph. 👍🤗
on s en bat les couilles traduction . we don t care about you citizshit .
I honestly fancy the Orient. I like the rotating bezel which is more useful than the useless tachometer on the Seiko. It has a screw down crown and the dial size suits me more as I think the Seiko is too small for my 7.5" wrist. However, I like the charging indicator in the Seiko.
I was thinking of buying the Orient and now I’m glad I didn’t. I do have the Orient Neo70s Panda on a rally strap and it’s a very nice watch.
Loved the comparison and Seiko losing a lume battle is a shocker indeed. Those Clockwork Republic straps are definitely intriguing. I'm now considering one for my Turtle.
You are right, the proportions on the Seiko are very nice but, the offset of the date window on the Seiko stands out like a sore thumb in my eyes.
I like larger watches and the date window is better positioned on the Orient.
My pick, « the Orient »
Another great show Russ! Keep it up! 😅👍🏼
I definitely prefer the Seiko, however , I do think the diver fans who want the diver feel but the chrono look, the Orient is an excellent choice. I have Orients, a dress watch, a Mako XL diver and a Japanese market Panda 3 subdial chronograph and I changed the bracelets on them all. I think the difference in price shows, but if you put a good quality strap or bracelet on the Orient, it could change the perception a lot. My Pulsar Solar has a ceramic tachymeter bezel that looks better than the one on the Seiko. And Seiko owns Pulsar. I'd have loved to see that tachymeter on the Seiko !
I was already taking MDC’s advice and saving for the Seiko. I love that watch!
I have the Seiko and it shares time with my Omega PO Seamaster. I love the Seiko. I don't feel like I have put on a "cheap watch" after wearing the much more expensive Omega. It is very nice but I do hate the 24 hour sub dial, not useful at all but in fairness I almost never push the buttons anyway lol.
Both great watches! Seitona would be my choice! Clockwork has a great strap for my samurai!
The Seiko is such a winner. Hard to beat in the looks department. Solar quartz is a huge bonus. Another place to look for affordable full mechanical is the Sugess 39 Chrono.
I've been posting this everywhere about comparing these two. I think you probably read something I posted. I'm glad you did this comparison. But there's more! You should have thrown in that cheap Sbpy165 to compare also.... And dare I say you could also include the Neo 70s 🐼. Love your channel sir. I watch it constantly
1 million like for reviewing this one. ❤❤❤
They also made a special edition with white bezel
I own the Orient in Black. Swapped the stock bracelet for a shark mesh. Looks killer now. I think comparing it with the Seiko diver chronos with the Sumo case would be more fair.
00:18 A Seiko, a Psycho, and an Orient. 😁
😂😂😂😂😂
I’m taking the seiko
I have the Seiko and personally I think it's in a completely different league to the Orient. In every single department. The WR is not a big deal as a 100m is more than sufficient. Great vid mate.
Especially for a chronographs!
@kleanovodust-bin69 There are many different types of Chronograph. The two here belong to entirely separate categories.
Great show as always MWC and a very useful comparison. I think both watches are great for their respective places in the market. For me, the Seiko wins straight away given it has the tachymeter bezel rather than the Orients diver countdown bezel. Even though a timing bezel is probably more useful to me than a tachymeter, a chronograph needs a tachymeter, right? 😂
If you don’t mind solar I’d prefer the Orient neo 70
I have the orange chronograph
It’s a beautiful timepiece
A friend purchased it from seiko dreams in Ginza
£150 cheaper than the uk rrp
I can’t believe just how good it looks
The sunburst orange really plays with the light
Would you have a different opinion if you had one to try and if it had nothing to do with the Pogue story and was just a different colour scheme.
Seiko boutique sold all its stock before it was officially released
I think that says something
It is a unique looking piece and being 41mm it feels incredibly heavy for a quartz watch.
People are already trying to flip on EBay for a profit
Don’t knock it because of the Pogue story
It’s not a fair reason to slate it
Just got mine from a friend from Japan in Italy and it costed me much lesser. LOVEEE IT. MY BEST PURCHASE YET!!
Seiko all the way. What are your thoughts on Squale Sub-39 GMT Vintage Blue? This is my latest acquisition, and it took me ages to rule out Doxa and Zodiac.
9/1/2024 Jomashop has the Orient for $189! Do you still recommend the $600 Seiko?
For me ? Yes
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR thanks for your response
I prefer the hand set on the Seiko, but the tachymetre? I mean whoever uses one? I use the dive bezel for timing cooking, timing breaks at work etc..
Isn’t chronograph is handy for timing stuff?
AQ-800E-7A vs AQ-230A-7DMQ
which one you suggest??
Go the Seiko, not that much more just wait for a good deal (like anything SEIKO). Looks a lot better and solar.
Still love the Mako 2/3/Komasu, very nice for what it is and made in Japan. Perfect once you put it on an island watch jubilee.
I have the European limited seituna in baby blue 💙. I love that one.
Thanks for the reviews, I’ve been considering both watches myself. I think Seiko has made the size 41mm now which is probably better for me. Agree about the Orient style, they could have made an original design. Still, 2 nice watches 👍
The Orient Neo 70’s is one that’s worth a look, and is a fair bit cheaper.
Hi Russell what's your opinion on orient star ⭐ are they worth the extra money
3 dial chrono's have never been my thing, but my bigest gripe is "the Date Window" why do they still put them on watches like this? They un balance the layout of the dial, both look like they were shoehorned in
I wanted a panda chronograph just for the looks. The seiko was 675 euros and the orient was 220 euro. It was an easy win for the orient. I changed immediatelly the bracellet on the orient with a silicon one and the watch is amazing. For the mazority of peaple that just want the looks of a panda watch and do not want to go to the chinese market, the orient is a cleat winner.
Chronos with a diver bezel have always been odd to me. A big hand timers really should have a tachymeter.
How often in life do you use a tachymeter?
@@SamuraiJackson Me personally? Only at the track, and only when I am curious what someone's average speed is through a certain section, which is not very often. But that isn't really the point. A big timer hand chrono's main purpose is to line up with a tachymeter, otherwise, it would just be one of the sub dials.
But on a more macro level, my, or anyone else's specific use case for a watch exists independently of what that watch should be: I don't dive to 300m, but I still expect my dive watches to be water proof.
SEIKO is the winner as I concur too.
Tan dial SEIKO looks great!
Nice video big bro! This is what we want! Mild price range watches
Get your hands on a Seiko Ripley reissue, it knocks both of these chronographs out of the park. Also, they're less bulkier for those with smaller wrists.
Hi Mad, and thanks for sharing your thoughts, observations and passion once again with us.
Quick question though, Which Orient Automatic , in your opinion, will be the best value for money?
I know you are asking him, but I'd say you can't go wrong with a Kamasu, Mako III, or baby triton if looking at a diver (baby triton if you want a larger bezel). For a dresser watch I prefer an open heart or sun and moon bambino. But it's all about personal preference.
@@Scortd I agree. Kamasu! Beautiful...
@@ScortdIve heard alotof good things about the Kumasu, and I wanted to probe Mad into approval. 😁
But Mad being Mad, the Seiko fanatic, that ain't gonna happen... well not in public , anyway.
That was a fantastic review keep them coming oh I do like the Sekio better
Does the Seiko Turtle strap fit the Captain Willard?
That Seiko is awesome I’m getting one in the next week or so ..
Both are very similar technically, but the Orient has 20 bar WR, better lume and cost half the price. To me, is the clear winner, also because, IMO, it's looks just better (Seiko looks good too, but it's just too small for my taste)
I dunnoooo... Kinda leaning to the Orient here. If it wears the same as my Mako, no reason I wouldn't like it.
It has some shortcomings compared to the Seiko, but I think they're justified, given the significant price difference. Better water resistance and lume, to boot.
I do wish Orient would do something about that logo, though.
Definitely need to get you a job at Seiko! YOU Sold ME lol Awesome Vids M8!! new Casio W219H w/ Timex black&white stripe NATO on the wrist!
Inside the bezel it's the Orient but not a fan of crossing it with the exterior of an existing, non-chrono watch.
"Sad ghost" 🤣🤣 your Mrs never fails to deliver!!
The Pogue reissue is the best of the Seikos……
I know I am not alone is saying that.
Are those movements serviceable? For longer ownership
Yes.
Greatly enjoyed the video, but I don’t think any of us had to watch to know the Orient is a great watch, but the Seiko is better and worth the money. Thanks!
3 times the price for under quality
@@jacobguedj8554I don’t think it’s three times the price (or at least I hope you didn’t pay that much), but I see your point about the Orient. I love my Kamasu.
I like the orient for its unique concept and design. Chrono in a diver is a cool concept in my view. No doubt seiko is higher quality but seems relative to price.
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When you point out you could get a Bambino and the Orient Chrono for the same price as the Seiko I think I would go for the two Orients.
i’d say both are equally worth for the price point, seiko better but pricier, orient a bit cheaper but not as good as seiko. but well priced so both are worth it
Could you review Orient Mako Solar Ice Blue Diver Watch RA-TX0206L10B?
If you're looking for a more affordable JDM Quartz chronograph, I recommend the Hyakuichi 101 Chronograph. It comes with beautiful dials and color ways, a solid end link steel bracelet, and ceramic bezel. Did I mention it's JDM?
I considered both, the Seiko's pricey albeit a deal was possible when I made enquiries, the Orient's on the big side. Ended up buying a Hoffman which was kind of nuts for other reasons.
What kind of price is possible on the Seiko?
Depends on the jeweller, I round down, they can negotiate.
Seiko have churned out a lot of cr@p over the last few years but the Seitona is not one of them! I bought it a couple of years back and still love it, everything about it ticks all of my own personal boxes and I would happily pay the additional money for it
Are the movements the same seeing as Seiko and Orient bat on the same team. It's obvious that they are both quartz movements.
What about the Timex TW2W53300? It's even cheaper than the Orient and comparable to those watches.
It is not watch with chronograph, It is chronograph which also shows time (I can't get over the big second hand not moving)
Finally the Seitona 🙌🏻 is on da house
FlightMaster, or the Arnie. I have both, and it's not an easy choice.
Have you tried Hmt Himalaya Watch?
They do a champagne coloured dial with a green ring which is beautiful
the Seiko hour n minute hands are more to my liking but the Orient dive bezel is useful whereas the tachy not so much and prefer Orients 22mm lugs. But since they both have three subdials I have no interest in my choice is something else
Seiko looks much, much better and for me thats enough for it to come out on top.
I like a lot of the Orient models i just cant get over the logo, it looks like something found on a pack of smokes. They really need to update it to a more modern one I like Seiko too but find they've lost their biggest benefit, their affordability.
My preferred Seiko chronograph, thought, is the SSB383P1 and im also looking at an Alpinist.
You can get the seiko for $400, put it on a strapcode oyster, and it really does look and feel like a watch thats 3 times the price
The deal breaker is the Orient's bezel. It's got that aluminum painted bezel in a bottle cap style form. Citizen have the same style in their Dive watches at these price points. To be fair the Seitona is only one with a better Bezel; the rest of the speed timer line use similar aluminum painted bezels; that's why for me the Seitona is the best Speed Timer Model in it's class.
That being said, as a Seiko fan I would like to see the next gens with Radio Tech and possibly higher KHz ala Citizen Blue Angels line.
Hi is that the bezel on the Seiko this vid is it steel or hardened coating etc thanks
@@daveLin104According to Jomashop, it's a stainless steel bezel; you can see the lettering are engraved/pressed giving a more premium look as well
I would think Orient is good enough having a solar chrono and sapphire crystal and 200m water resistance. The price advantage definitely is a plus too. Seiko is too Daytona homage, Orient is actually more original.
Orient watches are made in Yuzawa, Akita, Japan by Akita Epson Corporation, a subsidiary of Seiko Epson. Just something to consider, no?
The second-hand of the chronograph on the Orient is too short. I think that on a decent chronograph, it should at least "touch" or overlap the markers on the second-track.
The Orient is nice, but it looks a bit more oriental. 🤷🏻♂️
I’d take the Orient, but I have a Pagani PD-1701 that I like for a chronograph daily wearer.