13900K + Contact Frame = Better Performance?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The folks over at NAB Cooling reached out to me and asked if I would be interested in reviewing their CPU Protector Frame / Contact Frame. I personally had no used one in a personal build yet so I took them up on it!
This video will look at the NAB Cooling CPU Protector Frame to answer the question, does a 13900K benefit from using a contact frame?
Please join me as I go through the results of my testing.
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Bought this and seems to work great
Wow! Glad to see you again
Glad to have you watching again 👍
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Thanks for stopping in! Miss you guys! Had a myriad of health issues this year, but I'm back!
I just found contact frames yesterday and now I found this video!
Thanks for stopping by!
Which purple RGB cables are those? I think you're using those for the GPU and something else I can't see. Looks Amazing!
Lian Li Strimer 👍
Harder to do on the newer NVIDIA cards since all the cabling is different now 😢
I don't suggest to any beginner-average home builder on using these because the chances of damage, warranty issues and such outweigh the usual benefits provided. You'll get the same benefit by applying premium paste instead. It is definitely a must for high end builds and enthusiasts combined with prime paste to give the absolute best maximum performance. It seems to be about 9$ USD which is excellent.
I am not playing Starfield at the moment and even if I wanted to I have an older 1080 so it would perform somewhat under average.
Agreed. Get someone that knows what they are doing to install it if one is lacking the knowledge and experience.
blimey been a while since you dropped a video good to see you doing vids again i found your channel when i was looking at over clocking my 5900x using ryzen master
@@Rob-el8ti Glad to see you back!
You definitely won’t get the same benefits with just thermal paste. Not sure why you said that
Use it on the brand new cpu if u can. The already used ones are bent by the ILM there is a good chance they not gonna work as expected.
Have you tried the thermalright contact frame? Those temp improvement don’t seem to be where they should be. A lot of people, such as gamers nexus, were seeing 5-10 C improvements
I haven't yet, no. That being said, I don't think the 13900K will benefit the same way. I believe Gamers Nexus tested it on the 12 series, so I don't see it as an apples to apples comparison.
This could all be avoided if Intel had a better mounting solution up front 🤔
@@UnhingedSystems With the 13900k specifically, I would say you're probably right, though I've seen varying reports online as far as temp improvement. Some say it did lower them, I've also heard that "oh the 13900k will just boost more with the extra thermal headroom" Which isn't a bad thing at all imo, better perf with same thermals anyway 🤷♂. Not sure if intel made a change on the 13900k to do this, maybe you know. Or that temp improvements depends on the concave of your cooler. etc... But I've pretty much only heard that it improved temps with the 13700k and lower. But there are other advantages besides temps which I believe you went over in the video, such as more even pressure, as long as its installed correctly.
What's the best method for new paste on the 13th gens ? A dot, line or a cross. Thinking about paste replacement.
Use a robust paste like TFX and spread it for thin but complete coverage using a spreader. I'll never not use the spreader method, it just gets much more consistent results. You want to take advantage of every square millimeter of that heat spreader.
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DOORFIELD is amazing!
I have a 13900k and msi z690 tomahawk motherboard. I use it with a 360 mm cooler. After the undervolt process, I did not even see 65 degrees, except for instant increases in games (rare 80 degrees can see). I do not plan to change the system for 4 years. do you think I should use this product? or should I continue as stock.
If the system is already built I wouldn't worry about it. For new builds I will be using a contact frame, no contest.
Uh...no, just because the temperature measured was lower, doesn't mean that it cools better, the difference is way too small to draw that conclusion, it's within the margin of error.
Sorry, but if you do a test like that, you would have to re-apply thermal paste several times and then run a test each time, just to rule out that the actual application of the thermal paste made a difference, because it's impossible to get 100% identical applications. Heck, even adding the heatsink can result in different results.
Is it more work? You bet. Will you waste more thermal? Most definitely. But is it necessary to get more accurate results? Absolutely!
I did cycle through many applications of thermal paste over 8 hours of testing (each time I switched between the frame and the Intel mechanism). I even tested with putting the stock mounting plate back on and testing again several times. I got consistently better results while using the contact frame in every instance (albeit a very small overall measureable difference, but not noticeable by a human using the system).
I actually wasn't happy with the test results after the first 6 hours and re-did a bunch of setup and testing to ensure the results made sense and weren't just anomalies.
The temperature difference was miniscule, but the overall cooling was better (Core P7 was thermal throttling at times using the stock mounting hardware, consistently with multiple applications of paste, no cores thermal throttled using the CPU frame).
I could have done many many more iterations of the tests, and I spent a lot of time trying to ensure the results weren't simply margin of error on the applications. The overall CBR23 runs were more consistently higher numbers with the frame than without. The results are consistent enough for me to say that "Using a CPU contact frame is better than using the stock Intel retention mechanism" with confidence.
I would love to spend more time talking about testing methodology in my videos, but people literally don't watch / skip those parts anyways because they want the results and it would just be a waste of effort on my part.
@@UnhingedSystems
Sorry, but I don't believe any of what you just wrote. If you would have gone through so much effort you would most certainly have mentioned this in the video, but only after my remark you decided to mention this in a comment.
Secondly, if you didn't want to explain to your viewers how it was tested, you could have done in the description, instead of assuming that we're all a bunch of gullible 14 year olds who will believe any numbers thrown at them.
@@Horizon-hj3yc That's the wonderful thing about life mate, make your own judgements and do your own testing. I'm not here for your validation. It's impossible to make everyone happy and this comment thread is a prime example of that.
Thanks for the comment.