Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Lower Decks 3.5 - Reflections

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  • @ExtremeEgg80
    @ExtremeEgg80 Год назад +334

    Boimler losing it and ripping into everyone was just fantastic.

    • @alakani
      @alakani Год назад +12

      Relatable, too :P

    • @LarkManEXE
      @LarkManEXE Год назад +23

      “Stop trapping people in games!”

    • @TheSuperhomosapien
      @TheSuperhomosapien Год назад

      "I failed the Kobayashi Maru 17 times motherf***er!" I don't care if its overused, it was still funny.

    • @Blazingstoke
      @Blazingstoke Год назад +30

      "The Doctor didn't spend seven years in the Delta Quadrant just for you to question his agency! _HE HAS RIGHTS!!!_ "

    • @travisbishop782
      @travisbishop782 Год назад +10

      I want to keep seeing bold Boimler.

  • @Heavensrun
    @Heavensrun Год назад +260

    I love that Boimler is stuck in the Brig, so his friends OF COURSE are just hanging out there. So wholesome.

    • @FJF1085
      @FJF1085 Год назад +22

      Honestly it’s really amazing to see him develop as a character.

    • @selalewow
      @selalewow Год назад +13

      Love the Brig graffiti.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +4

      Boimler's Guesthouse.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +28

      Mariner basically owes him, since they hang out with her when she's in there.
      Better is that Ransom is basically "I'm only doing this because I have to, but I'll get you a beer after".

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +14

      They do it for Mariner, so it’s only fair. 😂
      Seriously, though, it is nice seeing him explicitly acknowledged as part of the team and not just the stuffed shirt of the group everyone just puts up with.

  • @rev.reggiedenton8252
    @rev.reggiedenton8252 Год назад +117

    Sean has asked for more about Sisco, and here the Conspiracy fanatics say, "What REALLY happened to Sisco?" I thought he'd be all over that line.

    • @Robert-nk8wy
      @Robert-nk8wy Год назад +16

      WHERE IS THAT LATINUM UP!!!?? How are they going to think we are serious about sisko if we don't emphasize our need for him.

    • @MasterDaCrash
      @MasterDaCrash Год назад +13

      Agreed! I'm surprised he didn't mention it ... but there was so much in the episode his pen probably ran out of ink!

  • @johnringwald955
    @johnringwald955 Год назад +170

    Were gonna find out that starbase 80 is actually the dream assignment, but the currently assigned officers spread a rumour about how bad it is so no one wants to transfer there...

    • @andrewfarmer6126
      @andrewfarmer6126 Год назад +26

      LOL, oh gods yes, please let that be the case

    • @BritneyLaZonga
      @BritneyLaZonga Год назад +15

      @@andrewfarmer6126 That would absolutely fit the cartoon logic of LD

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +19

      I do think the seeds are getting planted that we’re going to *have* to see Starbase 80 for ourselves sometime. Unless it’s going to become the new Cetacean Ops, where we’ll be theorizing about its existence for decades trying to figure out what its deal is.

    • @brentmakes
      @brentmakes Год назад +3

      I hesitated to Up this comment because it had 47 likes...

    • @TheBntimmins
      @TheBntimmins Год назад +4

      Like Transporter Chief Kyle in SNW. Seems like a nice guy but is used as a threat to get ensigns in line.

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Год назад +54

    You did miss the Queen (Billups mother) on the Conspiracy board (with Shaxs and the Mugato)
    Also, I'm really feeling like Shaxs really is a Papa Bear- you come at his family, he'll tear you apart, but if you're part of his family, he cares, deeply. (If we wanted to get deep about it, he probably lost so much during the Occupation that any new family he gains is exceedingly precious to him.)

  • @anthonysako1398
    @anthonysako1398 Год назад +69

    I love how the scepter being in that museum implies that Rom got robbed at some point after DS9

    • @Sk8rToon
      @Sk8rToon Год назад +9

      Honestly, are we surprised?

    • @Lans32485
      @Lans32485 Год назад +4

      Or it was being rented...and that's assuming it's even his best one.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +9

      Given that Rom was a different kind of Nagus it’s entirely likely he just didn’t care about it. The scepter is a symbol of all the aspects of Ferengi society Rom isn’t especially comfortable with or suited for so maybe he just didn’t want it.
      Or, maybe the scepter isn’t a unique item, and that there are really a bunch of them with the Nagus (or their designated agent, like when Sisko held it) being the only one allowed exclusive rights to their use since anyone holding ‘a’ scepter can effectively speak as the Nagus. That would certainly fit Ferengi culture, too. And may explain the hubbub over it. Even if it’s not a unique item, the staff’s status as a Stick of Truth/Sword of Destiny prestige-level item has status and political ramifications just in the act of physically holding it.

    • @antonnurwald5700
      @antonnurwald5700 Год назад

      @@KentuckyKaiju he probably just donated it.

    • @rmdodsonbills
      @rmdodsonbills Год назад +1

      @@KentuckyKaiju I tend this direction myself. Scepters generally imply some kind of monarchy and the Ferengi and Rom were definitely trending toward something more democratic and enlightened. In that case, there's all kinds of reason to think this scepter would be in a museum, though I'm not sure why *this* museum specifically.

  • @daenerystargaryen6302
    @daenerystargaryen6302 Год назад +45

    I love that Boimler was defending the Doctor from Voyager!

    • @travisbishop782
      @travisbishop782 Год назад +2

      That was great!

    • @dquirke2
      @dquirke2 Год назад +3

      The Doctor has to be my favourite character from Voyager, and maybe all of Star Trek. Any reference to him is an up in my book!

    • @Gilhelmi
      @Gilhelmi Год назад +1

      I don't particularly like Voyager.
      But I absolutely adore the Doctor.
      Second best character after Worf.

  • @Dracattack
    @Dracattack Год назад +65

    Shax really does care for Ruth and I love that he's very loud but when it's time to get serious and help the crew he's gentle and concerned

    • @BritneyLaZonga
      @BritneyLaZonga Год назад +15

      Shax is golden and precious. Just imagine they would have killed him much later and did not bring him back...

    • @andrewstephen2359
      @andrewstephen2359 Год назад +10

      I noticed this way back at the end of Season 1. After violently and loudly beating up some packleds he very gently scoops up the unconscious freeman and carriers her to sickbay.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +16

      It fits what we know about Bajoran characters as well. Save a couple of examples (ahem Winn), they’ve all had that serious on the outside/squishy on the inside vibe. They’re a real ride-or-die, family-centric group of people once you build a relationship with them. No doubt some of this is probably from Occupation trauma but it seems a bit deeper grained than that, given what we’ve seen of their culture and spiritual practices beyond that.

    • @kwueue
      @kwueue Год назад +9

      When Shax died, the Baby Bear comment made me tear up just a bit, and to hear it agian, means that Rutherford is still special to Shax

    • @rachelnesser9223
      @rachelnesser9223 Год назад

      @@KentuckyKaiju Yes -- all of this!🙂👍

  • @BlackHedgehog
    @BlackHedgehog Год назад +21

    One small easter egg/reference you missed, Petra mentions to the guy who mentions about transporters about being stuck for seven years in a windowless room. Which is clearly a reference to the fact most of the Trek shows went for seven seasons/seven years.

  • @GamerFromJump
    @GamerFromJump Год назад +26

    Loved Boims mini-rant about the Doctor. “He has rights!” Latinum up from me.

  • @AndrewD8Red
    @AndrewD8Red Год назад +156

    I remember when Seán was just the new guy at TrekCulture.
    Amazing how quickly he became such a confident and consistently entertaining part of the crew back then.
    Don't get me wrong, there's nobody I don't love at TrekCulture, but Seán is just such a wonderful personality; born to be In front of the camera and absolutely magnetic to watch.
    Who's got a crush? Me? Why would you even say that. Don't be absurd.

    • @bearnaff9387
      @bearnaff9387 Год назад +13

      Don't forget how awesome that shirt is.

    • @Gambit2051
      @Gambit2051 Год назад +4

      Support has a Transformative Impact on People :)
      Bc, usually, people want to be as supportive as those around them.
      It is a Terrific Feedback Loop that can help everyone succeed.

    • @emraldmars
      @emraldmars Год назад +4

      We are in the same boat, and YES, impeccable shirts!

    • @Gambit2051
      @Gambit2051 Год назад +2

      @Jonny F they could be working on other things.
      Success can cause people to become in demand...esp on a RUclips Channel Network like WhatCulture.

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 Год назад +1

      @@bearnaff9387 I noticed the shirt. Loved it!

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 Год назад +77

    This was by far my most favorite episode of Lower Decks to date of all the seasons. I hope we soon find out who did that stuff to Rutherford.

    • @Heymrk
      @Heymrk Год назад +6

      I bet the butt bugs did it.

    • @kayseek1248
      @kayseek1248 Год назад +3

      @@Heymrk that’s what happens when you let the butt bugs bite.

    • @charlesajones77
      @charlesajones77 Год назад +1

      @@Heymrk I honestly hope that that turns out to be the case. We really need to see more of those guys.

  • @ryokoandbernd
    @ryokoandbernd Год назад +24

    Best episode of the season so far. By far! Perfect mix between "funny", "having a story" and "Easter eggs".
    Boimler was hilarious this week. For 2 1/2 seasons he was the perfect ensign. Him blowing up like this now and ending up in the brig was so funny, because it was him. (If it had been Mariner, it would have been half the fun)
    And Rutherford's story is finally unfolding. I was getting impatient about it, since nothing happened since episode 2x10. Now they finally moved it forward a bit. I just hope it won't take another 5 episodes until we get the next part of the story.
    And I also love the attention to details. Who would have thought that "Rutherford loving pears" from episode 2x01 would be picked up again in the middle of season 3?
    Love it!

  • @eric1101eric
    @eric1101eric Год назад +45

    Sampaguita is the national flower of the Philippines. I think this hints that Rutherford is at least partially pinoy.

    • @PhillBogart
      @PhillBogart Год назад +6

      Ah. Good catch. I was thinking of looking that up. I wonder if Sean noticed that the nacelles on it were from the Enterprise B (Excelsior refit) era.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +16

      Seeing as Eugene Cordero is, I would consider this all but canon.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +2

      @@KentuckyKaiju Or at least a nod to EC

    • @Cyke101
      @Cyke101 Год назад +8

      Possibly the first Filipino main character in Trek. That's pretty huge 🇵🇭
      Sure we've had Filipino actors in Trek, but it was never clear if the characters themselves were Filipino (like Isa's characters), or even if so, they weren't main characters (like Jon Jon Briones' guest appearances).

    • @ukiyasenpai
      @ukiyasenpai Год назад +4

      @@Cyke101 If we are counting Sulu, second. Some Beta Canon material states that he is Filipino-Japanese.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Год назад +15

    Rutherford possibly taking the title of longest serving ensign?
    Man, Harry Kim just can't catch a break; even that's being taken away from him.

  • @jphelps408
    @jphelps408 Год назад +32

    Anyone notice the Horta with the Kirk and Spock photo op board? It was the silicon based life form that always reminded me of a messed up cheese pizza.

    • @rojoeditor
      @rojoeditor Год назад

      How does a rock resemble a pizza?

  • @roffel06
    @roffel06 Год назад +4

    It was nice to see Ransom slowy grow into a more competent commander. He understands how to 'incentivise' Mariner into doing her job. He also takes his job seriously, puts Boimler in the brig but is completely chill with Boimler smashing up stuff ("Tell me the story later, will will you?"). Ransom and Boimler always had a good chemistry and quite a bit of a mentor-mentee relationship, especially when considering their difference in rank. But here we see how he motivates Boimler and bolsters his self-esteem - without crossing any potential rank boundaries or seeming to favour this one ensign over the others. Very subtly done.

  • @edgeof60
    @edgeof60 Год назад +12

    Shout out to the musical scoring on this show, especially the race sequence- wonderfully cinematic.

  • @shontehanna2759
    @shontehanna2759 Год назад +35

    Missed Easter egg, Mariner says, "there are new worlds that are strange and need exploring".

    • @t.m.3022
      @t.m.3022 Год назад

      Made me laugh out loud!!

  • @Silverhawk100
    @Silverhawk100 Год назад +23

    Ok. I wanna get really into the weeds about this race. Young Rutherford says that his engine his based off a vulcan design. According to designer interviews and beta canon, Vulcan warp engines are designed to be focused on acceleration at the expense of maneuverability while Federation warp engines are designed to have flat acceleration and high maneuverability. Obviously, these are impulse engines, but what do we see throughout the race? Young Rutherford takes the lead during straightaways, but OG Rutherford narrows the gap and even surpasses him on corners and more curvey parts of the race. EXACTLY mirroring the two race's warp engine design priorities.

    • @t.m.3022
      @t.m.3022 Год назад

      That's such a nice touch!!!

  • @NoLessThanAGod
    @NoLessThanAGod Год назад +18

    I figured the white void that the Rutherfords were in was a reference to tapestry.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer Год назад

      Tapestry...or the Celestial Temple of the Bajoran Prophets.

  • @lisad8268
    @lisad8268 Год назад +9

    I just wish we got more than 10 episodes per season! Sean has absolutely exploded with charisma since his season 1 days, and I love seeing him every week!

    • @Gilhelmi
      @Gilhelmi Год назад

      It feels like we are getting the same number of episodes per year though.
      Are they doing a Spring and Fall season structure? 10 in the Spring, 10 in the Fall?

  • @redemption2
    @redemption2 Год назад +15

    Plot twist, that Nagus scepter is probably the one Neelix used in False Profits, and is probably worth very little.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +2

      But would ROM figure that out before paying the reward (IN FULL, like a chump)

  • @bearnaff9387
    @bearnaff9387 Год назад +38

    I think you might have made a mistake in stating that the Tellurite was scared off by Aberdeen referencing the Borg in Cetacean Observations. That was the female alien who came up after the Tellurite. He got warned away by being told that he would be spending his seven years in a windowless room.

    • @nemesis1588
      @nemesis1588 Год назад +8

      Which was a reference to O'Brian being stuck in the transporter room in TNG.....

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +6

      @@nemesis1588 Poor O'Brien at Work...
      OF COURSE, he did take the con and even the center chair on rare occasion.

    • @parallaxnick637
      @parallaxnick637 Год назад +4

      @@Sephiroth144 I was really hoping there would be a reference to his appearance on the bridge in Farpoint.

  • @LTBreedlove
    @LTBreedlove Год назад +59

    At one point the Independent Archaeologist Guild was called out as the INDY Archaeologist Guild.
    Was that an Indiana Jones reference?

    • @kurumachikuroe442
      @kurumachikuroe442 Год назад +6

      Wouldn't be surprised, they got the drip, might as well get the title

    • @travisbishop782
      @travisbishop782 Год назад

      Yep!

    • @subman23
      @subman23 Год назад +3

      Not sure
      Also, of course it was

    • @gordonro4851
      @gordonro4851 Год назад

      Both Paramount properties- so of course Indy archeologists are Dr. Jones inspired archaeologists. Which means Dr. Henry Jones was a real person in the trek universe who inspired/informed archeological methods.

    • @werebison
      @werebison Год назад +1

      Likely. I think it was also there to play "Independent" and "Guild" off of each other as a contradiction.

  • @mitchypdx
    @mitchypdx Год назад +5

    If you look in the brig scene you can see "Mariner's HQ" on the castle and next to it "Boimler's guesthouse"

  • @TTony-tu6dm
    @TTony-tu6dm Год назад +21

    If I’m not mistaken, the first shot of the “job fair” shows a structure from the phony star base in “Encounter at Farpoint”

  • @KentuckyKaiju
    @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +43

    Something I realized thinking on this episode is just how many evil twin/alternate identity style episodes there have been across the franchise. And that this actually stacks up pretty highly in that list in terms of how well it was executed. Dark Rutherford might have been a jerk, but he wasn’t evil, which is a complexity you don’t often see in these kind of episodes.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 Год назад +4

      Like Jellico

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +1

      Off the top of my head, in TOS alone there was Kirk being split in two as well as a black/white guy mirrored my a white/black guy.
      That's just in three seasons.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +2

      @@recoil53 Depending on how you define it, you can also count ‘This Side of Paradise’ when Spock got affected by those spores and lost his emotional control (if I remember correctly, there was even a bit where Spock didn’t want to be restored). There’s ‘Mirror, Mirror’, ‘What a are Little Girls Made Of?’ (Android Kirk)… and I’m sure I could probably find more if I sat down at Memory Alpha for a few minutes. And that’s just TOS. And I suspect Voyager went to this creative well more than most other series as I can think of over half a dozen episodes of the top of my head on this theme.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +2

      @@KentuckyKaiju The spores brought out the flower child side of Spock. It's more a drug.
      But yes, it was over used from the beginning.

    • @SamCogley
      @SamCogley Год назад +1

      @@recoil53 Bele and Lokai in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" were entirely different characters, of two different races originating on the same planet.

  • @WrathOfGrapesN7
    @WrathOfGrapesN7 Год назад +3

    I loved it when Petra Aberdeen referred to herself as an Indy, just like everybody's favourite whip-toting archeologist.

  • @charlesajones77
    @charlesajones77 Год назад +4

    I loved how the "outpost scientists" were saying they can wear whatever they wanted, yet they all wear the same thing, in slightly varying shades of green. Including the guy from episode 3-3.

  • @FalconClubFCA
    @FalconClubFCA Год назад +16

    Any one notice that Rutherford was not actually a reflection? It was like he was on other side of glass looking in. Hmmmmmm.

  • @deanomac9124
    @deanomac9124 Год назад +8

    The OBELISK from the ST: TOS episode "For I Have Touched the Sky and the World is Hollow" is in the archaeologist's booth behind her to the left, at 6:07 in the episode

    • @davidschmidt4773
      @davidschmidt4773 Год назад +4

      I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who recognized it! A great Easter egg, for sure.

    • @MrCookieCat
      @MrCookieCat Год назад +2

      I was going to comment but you had it first!

  • @leomonaghan3933
    @leomonaghan3933 Год назад +32

    Rutherford was acting as a go between for Sect. 31 (or just Starfleet Intelligence) and the Romulans while at the Academy.
    His racing trips into the Neutral Zone allowed him access to areas not observed by either government when the drops/hand-offs could take place.

    • @antonnurwald5700
      @antonnurwald5700 Год назад +1

      I like it, I like it. They could have exploited his frustration and rouge energy and gone: hey, want to make this interesting?

    • @Vertshark
      @Vertshark Год назад +1

      Sorry but there's only 30 in Sect as well as Aprilt, Junet, and Novemt

  • @Syt1976
    @Syt1976 Год назад +9

    I feel the "we just want to study quasars" may have been a reference to SF Debris (Chuck Sonnenburg)'s review of First Contact where he raised the point that there's probably a lot of people aboard the Enterprise who only signed up to be scientists, voice acting one unlucky crew member saying, "I just wanted to study quasars!" :D

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome Год назад +2

    I really like the moment at the end, where Boimler is in the brig, and Mariner is walking away to do the mission report. Boimler says that's his favorite part and Mariner does a little laugh and affectionately says "Of course it is." It really does feel like they are friends that really deeply care for one another.

  • @stipe3124
    @stipe3124 Год назад +2

    Boimler was like "Fear when good man goes to war" 😅
    I loved this episode, all of it, all jokes and all stories.
    Rutterford war with himself is very good and other story is also good, that joke about Starfleet being actually a navy is Great, joke about uniforms also.
    Great episode

  • @KentuckyKaiju
    @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +36

    Regarding Rutherford’s age: keep in mind there’s a similarly open question regarding Mariner’s age. In fact, based on the clues so far, she and Rutherford might be around the same age. Boimler and Tendi might be the only fresh face ending in our cast.
    I do hope we get a better picture of the characters’ service history at some point. At least enough to make a rough timeline.

    • @FJF1085
      @FJF1085 Год назад +4

      Mariner had been demoted, likely several ranks, while Rutherford I assumed was a new ensign, but you’re right he’d have to be closer to her age. Which makes me wonder if it was not only his memory which was modified but records about him… did he have a higher rank, did he leave Starfleet? I meant in the first season they say his implant is pretty new so I’m wondering if he had a whole different career. Maybe he’s been placed in deep cover?

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +1

      @@FJF1085 Or maybe there were missions that "didn't exist" after the fact; it also makes me wonder how accurate his Starfleet record is, since I'm guessing him being an Ensign that long would be suspicious (especially to him).

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +5

      Tendi had enough time to establish a reputation as "Mistress of the Winter Constellations" and then not be a pirate for nearly five years.
      And somehow have a complete personality difference than that past implies.

    • @andrewstephen2359
      @andrewstephen2359 Год назад

      I noticed Dark Rutherford seemed to be wearing a cadets uniform in one scene. Perhaps his accident happened early on in his academy days. How long is the Starfleet Academy course does anyone know?

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +1

      @@recoil53 True, but she could have done that as a teenager. Orion women have been shown to have quite a lot of agency and ambition.
      You could be right, though, and it was a similarly long time ago for her. I’d definitely a history I hope gets some more elaboration at some point, though!

  • @RogueScholarMDC
    @RogueScholarMDC Год назад +19

    This episode is something I would never have expected after being so unhappy with the "antics" of the first season. This show has really grown into something amazing and worthy of the Star Trek identity

    • @withershin
      @withershin Год назад +2

      Well put. This episode was what I was expecting (13-year old me would agree) from the show and this season has been really enjoyable thus far.

  • @tiberiusrobustus
    @tiberiusrobustus Год назад +5

    The Kirk and Spock cutouts look very much like The Animated Series style to me.

    • @tiberiusrobustus
      @tiberiusrobustus Год назад +1

      Also, that is the Horta in that scene. Nice.

    • @parkds
      @parkds Год назад

      Agreed. They looked like they were from the Animated Series characters, which was a clever way to do the cutouts. Surprised this wasn’t mentioned in the video.

    • @CantankerousDave
      @CantankerousDave Год назад

      Pointed that out, too.

  • @zanyzapper6904
    @zanyzapper6904 Год назад +3

    Great episode! Also I kinda felt like Boimler losing his sh*t from all the insults being hurled at Starfleet was kind of a sideways reference to Scotty going off on the Klingons when they insulted the Enterprise in "The Trouble With Tribbles." Fantastic stuff!

  • @shaycupp2310
    @shaycupp2310 Год назад +6

    All season long every episode is a throw back, it's fun to watch as many as possible before next episode.

  • @TheKrstff
    @TheKrstff Год назад +21

    In the first episode of Lower Decks Mariner states that Rutheford had been a cyborg for a couple of weeks.

    • @timdunn6489
      @timdunn6489 Год назад +5

      Yes! From episode one I've wanted to know why Rutherford was a cyborg!

    • @boko06
      @boko06 Год назад +5

      That's why I was confused when old Rutherford was portrayed as a jerk because Mariner was supposed to know him from before the implant. I guess they're retconning that or something.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +3

      It was Boimler who pointed out Sam was "as of a few weeks ago, cybernetically enhanced"
      Makes me wonder if he was more a jerk to himself than he was to other people- but yeah, the timelines aren't really adding up. (Unless he had a smaller implant first, possibly just an occular one ala Movie Geordi, since that eye seems a bit... unusable.)

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +2

      Pilot episode are often way off from the rest of the continuity.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад

      So Boimler believes, but did they say if Rutherford had been on the Cerritos prior to that or did he just say the implant was new when he was assigned so that’s what everyone believes?
      After all, Rutherford lost a year’s worth of memories when the implant was ripped out, while Season 1 only covered six months (57436.2-58000).
      Interestingly, with this episode (58354.2) it’s barely been a full year since the show began, technically. That really puts the character development in a whole different context now that I think about it that way…

  • @ShawnMM
    @ShawnMM Год назад +4

    Was touched by Shaxs sadness before he stunned Rutherford, there was a lot of pain in his voice.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer Год назад

      Might not be the first time he's had to shoot a friend...possibly a hint to his Bajoran Resistance days?

  • @adamlytle2615
    @adamlytle2615 Год назад +5

    This was one of the best episodes so far. Maybe third for me behind Crisis Point and No Small Parts. The whole Rutherford v. Rutherford thing with present day Rutherford winning because of all that being in Starfleet has given him, (especially friends) but also rescuing his past self because he doesn't want to to see him go. Just a one two punch of emotionally poignant storytelling. Pure Star Trek.

    • @chrisc1140
      @chrisc1140 Год назад +1

      Plus with present Rutherford offering "maybe we could merge" and young Rutherford saying that'd just kill them both. Been a good long while for me, but isn't there a previous Trek episode (I THINK tng?) where that was a moral question brought up?

    • @adamlytle2615
      @adamlytle2615 Год назад

      @@chrisc1140 Hmm... Yeah I dunno!

    • @chrisc1140
      @chrisc1140 Год назад

      @@adamlytle2615 saw another mention it elsewhere! It was a Voyager episode

  • @andrewbleackley1832
    @andrewbleackley1832 Год назад +2

    The Borg Drone/Federation Drone is a reference to what Eddington said to Sisko about how the Federation is like the Borg only more insidious

  • @jpwphoenix1701
    @jpwphoenix1701 Год назад +1

    I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who got a big laugh out of Rutherford scaring the crap out of 'Towel Guy"!

  • @xandersnyder7214
    @xandersnyder7214 Год назад +1

    I think this episode has topped my list of favorites for all of Lower Decks, and that is saying something with the number of great episodes they have had.
    What I love about Lower Decks is that when you distill the stories, they are very true to the core of the messages of Star Trek. I think one of the things this episode showed is how close the crew has become, from the lower deckers up to the command crew.
    And I love the relationship of Shax/Rutherford and T'Ana/Tendi, you hit the nail on the head that it is very much parents and children. And it was jarring to hear Dr. T without any gruff and snark and be a worried Chief Medical Officer.
    And Seán, I am 1000% in your corner on the down for the slander against collecting!

  • @julianmarco4185
    @julianmarco4185 8 месяцев назад +2

    I love that when Boimler is going ape shit crazy on the other stalls there is just a female klingon in the background in one scene smiling approvingly at Boimler like he is the most interesting thing that happened all day.

  • @trulytrekkie
    @trulytrekkie Год назад +3

    Love the channel! Great stuff. I think that there is a second reference for "how far those spots go down" in DS9 "Meridian" where the alien who lives on the phase shifting planet asks Jadzia "how far do your spots go down" and she replies "all the way down" which I think they were referencing when Bashir says it in the last episode.

  • @undercoverasiant696
    @undercoverasiant696 Год назад +8

    I would like an up for the animators of that romulan war bird tied with the sound design. I replayed that scene several times and just kept cranking the volume knob.

  • @TARDIS326
    @TARDIS326 Год назад +6

    Surprised there wasn't a down for yet again teasing Sisko without a Sisko return. The conspiracy people all "What really happened to Sisko?"

  • @chrisanderson6353
    @chrisanderson6353 Год назад +8

    Hey Sean, I love your ups and down series, but one thing you forgot in cetacean ops was the Horta! On the picture of Kirk and Spock in the Starfleet booth . The Horta was in between Kirk and Spock. Devil in the Dark TOS season 1 E 26. Let me know if I was mistaken.

    • @clintdziadosz4338
      @clintdziadosz4338 Год назад +2

      I agree Chris! but I am not Sean.

    • @TheKagedd
      @TheKagedd Год назад +1

      I was looking for this comment! Sean & the TrekCulture team are fantastic! High quality work!

  • @sydeninsomniac7832
    @sydeninsomniac7832 Год назад +4

    Have you noticed the random Drawings in the ship this season? Little kids on the shuttle, castle in the brig etc

  • @philipingram1563
    @philipingram1563 Год назад +1

    For me, I watch a Star Trek episode, be it lower decks, Picard whatever, after its just dropped and then its straight to Trekculture which then just enhances the whole experience..... and this episode a brilliant example of that ... Thank you!

  • @steveroberts2793
    @steveroberts2793 Год назад +7

    On the Collectors table, you missed a miniature version of Balok's Red/Green/Blue Light pod thingy from "The Corbomite Maneuver". So now ya gotta do a shot of tranya should we ever meet! :) Great episode!

    • @anthonyx916
      @anthonyx916 Год назад

      I knew that thing looked familiar, just couldn't place it!

  • @dawnmcauley6411
    @dawnmcauley6411 Год назад +10

    Regarding Petra, she could be a new love interest for Mariner but I think that she will more present a foil to Mariner, the road not taken as it were. Petra and Mariner actually showed very similar dispositions and even attitudes toward Starfleet (or more precisely Season 1 Mariner's attitudes,) she is what Mariner would've been (and even now, could be) if she left Starfleet.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад

      I'd think the ending - Petra making a job offer and Mariner obviously thinking about it - leads to that conclusion.

    • @chickadeestevenson5440
      @chickadeestevenson5440 Год назад

      Mariner is pretty polyam, she does *not* want to be exclusive.

    • @dawnmcauley6411
      @dawnmcauley6411 Год назад

      @@chickadeestevenson5440 I don't contest that nor am I saying this storyline is exclusive with Petra being a LI. Merely that primarily, Petra will be a foil first (but can still be a LI.)

  • @KnightRaymund
    @KnightRaymund Год назад

    Loved this episode. The Rutherford story was excellent. The booth story was good, but when Boimler went off and what came after, *chef's kiss*

  • @markam67
    @markam67 Год назад +5

    I don't know if anyone else mentioned it but on the collectors table the red green blue statue thingy was from TOS it was commander Balok's controls for the Fesarius!

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 Год назад +1

      I thought that was Balok's control module that sat next to him. Good eye!

  • @seanpualic9834
    @seanpualic9834 Год назад +1

    I love that this episode singlehandedly brought together almost all of star trek!! 🤣😂

  • @jayceeloop
    @jayceeloop Год назад +2

    Dare I say this is not only one of the best episodes of the season, or Lower Decks, but of all Star Trek shows? simply amazing.
    Also, Sean quoting Professor Falken from WarGames? ;)

  • @S60Rguy
    @S60Rguy Год назад

    I just love this channel and so look forward to these videos.

  • @krys1888
    @krys1888 Год назад +3

    There’s a small model version of the preserver from TOS The Paradise Syndrome sitting on Aberdeen’s table as well. Easy to miss in among the sheer volume of references this week!

  • @RobertSandell
    @RobertSandell Год назад +9

    Has anyone kept track of everything Kayshon has been saying to see if there is a red thread somewhere in there? :)

  • @jonathanmoore3130
    @jonathanmoore3130 Год назад +22

    Wait so does this mean Red Rutherford was in charge during those times Blue Rutherford was rebooting and had holes in his memory?

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 Год назад +5

      Quite possibly.

    • @KentuckyKaiju
      @KentuckyKaiju Год назад +6

      Maybe. It’s also possible that the implant itself takes its own actions. I’m reminded of when Rutherford basically let the implant autopilot his body through taking down a bunch of holo-Borg. I’ve always assumed that was the case for his ‘blackout’ spells, but with this new context, who even knows, now?
      It does add a whole new context to Tendi’s fears about Synthetic Memory Degradation, though.

    • @trektumblrian2369
      @trektumblrian2369 Год назад +5

      OH MY FOUNDERS

    • @billyhardin925
      @billyhardin925 Год назад +1

      @@trektumblrian2369 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @The0mega79
      @The0mega79 Год назад +2

      I had the same thought.

  • @boombasett6038
    @boombasett6038 Год назад +1

    THE VOICE ACTING WAS FANTASTIC WITH RUTHERFORD.

  • @DavidFell
    @DavidFell Год назад +1

    Had to pause I was laughing so hard at your tragic photos about Boimler dissing collecting. I share your grief, brother! 😀🪐

  • @gorillazzillathemeh5897
    @gorillazzillathemeh5897 Год назад

    Loved this week's ups and downs.

  • @TheTefloncougar
    @TheTefloncougar Год назад +4

    Have to wonder, when young Rutherford was fading and current Rutherford suggested they merge Young said, "Then we'd both die." Could this be a reference to Voyager and Tuvix?

  • @Vertshark
    @Vertshark Год назад +2

    I've got that shirt and it's stunning. Also the Kirk/Spock cut outs are from the animated series which should be an up all by itself!

  • @MrJudestarnault
    @MrJudestarnault Год назад +1

    Up for the towel guy because it's a callback to the previous episode at the very beginning of this episode which gives a feeling of continuity.

  • @paulbabcock2428
    @paulbabcock2428 Год назад +1

    This was my fav ep in a good while, of the season so far, for sure.

  • @NomenLuni1975
    @NomenLuni1975 Год назад

    That is a definite contender for best episode of the series so far. I loved every minute of it. I've been waiting so long for them to explore Rutherford's memory and they did such a great job, as well as leaving us with more unanswered questions. I can't wait to find out more.

  • @georgehill8285
    @georgehill8285 Год назад +4

    Just noticed in that picture of Boimler yelling at the Wadi you used, there are a couple of fake Ferengi ears like what Pel wore to look like a male Ferengi in the episode where Quark negotiates with those big red guys to learn about the Dominion.

  • @skrunklebunkle
    @skrunklebunkle Год назад +2

    Favourite episode of the season so far, big fan of every part

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 Год назад +1

      They haven't disappointed me yet. There mediocre is better than a lot of other animated shows.

  • @Temanaras
    @Temanaras Год назад +3

    At the truth booth, there was a picture of Billop's Mother.

  • @gordonwallin2368
    @gordonwallin2368 Год назад

    This is such a fun episode,like this channel. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

  • @Gangerworld
    @Gangerworld Год назад +4

    Sometimes LD brings the boom and this episode brought the boom. Fun on all fronts. Even the B plot ended up equalizing at the very end. I was very surprised how meta the episode ended being with the criticisms of Starfleet from fans on the show or the mmorpg with Boimler's defense of Starfleet in the end.

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist Год назад

    it was an excellent episode and the best episode so far!

  • @margotrosendorn6371
    @margotrosendorn6371 Год назад

    When Boimler snaps, he SNAPS! Really had me floored

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 Год назад +11

    That cadet uniform looks like the kind the fake cadet wore in Allegiance, the third season episode where Captain Picard was abducted and replaced with a not quite accurate replacement who kissed Dr. Crusher and went to 10 Forward to sing and drink. This is important because the design for cadet uniforms appears to change by The First Duty, unless cadet uniforms are different for each year in the Academy. I've never looked into it, but worth keeping in mind.
    Side note, I got done rewatching Data's Day today. Data was talking about marriage ceremonies of other worlds, but was interrupted while talking about Andorians. Anybody got the full story on that? Might be good with regards to Jennifer. I'd also love to know how she ended up being named Jennifer.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer Год назад

      Not sure, but in the books...Andorians have four sexes, and are arranged in genetically-viable marriage quads while still children. Wouldn't mind seeing *that* plot thread from the post-finale Novelverse finally make it to screen...

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 Год назад

    This was a great episode, very well balanced. Thanks for the breakdown

  • @genyosha16
    @genyosha16 Год назад +1

    Lower Decks is the first TV series that I think has the same quality of writing and character development as Buffy. Reflections was one of those landmark episodes that define a series

  • @markabele8794
    @markabele8794 Год назад

    Thanks for this episode. There was so much detail in it I missed a lot of it and there was some I wasn't familiar with.

  • @kerrygligorovic9758
    @kerrygligorovic9758 Год назад +14

    Wow for once Biomler is in big trouble as got very angry and went on the rampage but despite that Mariner was able to sign up more people to join Starfleet which made Commander Ransom very happy. I think there's a hint at the end of that episode that suspect that Mariner will be thinking about joining the theif that she just met today if Ransom did kick her out of Starfleet in Season 3 finale.

    • @boxtears
      @boxtears Год назад +6

      Ransom was also glad Boimler stood up for Starfleet.

  • @vincentmays2035
    @vincentmays2035 Год назад +1

    i'm so glad that this episode was an episode

  • @LordWamphyri
    @LordWamphyri Год назад +5

    I laughed WAY more than I probably should have when towel guy let out that terrified shriek 🤣🤣 to the point I had to rewind as I missed the following few scenes. Fantastic episode, easily my favourite so far of S3. Good video.. Seán how many times did you have to pause for your note taking? 😁

  • @parsapourkaveh7492
    @parsapourkaveh7492 Год назад

    Holy shit Sean, I was just gonna say it was an amazing episode but then you went and shouted us out. Love you from Iran, Live long and prosper! ❤🤍💚

  • @reneelorraine
    @reneelorraine Год назад

    This was perfect ,Thank You.

  • @CantankerousDave
    @CantankerousDave Год назад +3

    Also, the cardboard standup with Kirk and Spock were clearly drawings from The Animated Series, not just Lower Decks-ized representations of them.

  • @tec5x5
    @tec5x5 Год назад

    Great ep it was super fun live as well thanks guys As for the Ep Reflections its a really good ep as well

  • @Bargle5
    @Bargle5 Год назад

    Man, there were so many references at the recruiting. Wow! No way I could have caught them all myself. Thanks a bunch.

  • @kev30631
    @kev30631 Год назад +1

    Great episode. I love this show, so I am biased. And will continue to be so , as long as they keep giving us this quality material.

  • @danniedanielle8157
    @danniedanielle8157 Год назад

    Absolutely loved this episode!! The previous episodes have been ok, not bad but kinda forgettable. This one was FANTASTIC!

  • @ITGuy1970
    @ITGuy1970 Год назад

    Bravo Sean, excellent episode. You are a hard working, dedicated true fan and I appreciate what you do very much. I gave you an up to make up for the down I gave you when you gave episode 301 a down so we're even now.

  • @VictorReynolds
    @VictorReynolds Год назад +1

    There's also an artifact at Petra's table from the TOS Third Season episode, "For The World Is Hollow, and I Have Touched the Sky." It was the stele(?) that held the Fabrini "Bible".

  • @mikehall962
    @mikehall962 Год назад

    This episode hit just about every incarnation of Trek to date. Especially love the Delta Flyer and “Drive” nods! I mean what other ship would you use to race in but the Delta Flyer, Tom’s suped up hot rod of the Delta quadrant?! Great episode all around.

  • @hankthepatriot3733
    @hankthepatriot3733 Год назад

    Thumbs up!!! I definitely grabbed a coffee for this one!

  • @sebmorgan6540
    @sebmorgan6540 Год назад

    Sean I'm so glad u finally up'd the delta flyer, just before the end, I had an angry rant already typed up, I can calm down a bit now

  • @Willmythos
    @Willmythos Год назад +2

    The only reference that I noticed that wasn't brought up was Mariner saying "We got new worlds, they're strange, and they need seeking out." Referring to the mission statement in TOS and TNG, and to the series Strange New Worlds!

  • @odesseus
    @odesseus Год назад

    Omg, I loved Rutherford behind the "CRITICAL" sign at FNN. Excellent review! A LATINUM thumbs up!