I Confronted "KPOP Stalker" - Josh (Twice Nayeon's stalker/ sasaeng fan?)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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Hey guys, today I spoke to kpop stalker Josh1994, a man from Germany who is has been "in love" with Twice's Nayeon for the last 3 years. Let's just say, the conversation did NOT go well...
0:00 Listening to Josh's side of the story (edited)
28:27 Debating with Josh (edited)
47:18 Listening to Josh's side of the story (unedited)
1:25:00 Debating with Josh (unedited)
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UPDATE: I've received emails from some viewers asking for Josh's location so they can hurt/ kill him. 1) I do not know Josh's location 2) As much as I think Josh is a threat, I do not recommend or condone using violence against him! Please report him to authorities/ JYP officials instead. DO NOT APPROACH HIM IN PERSON.
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This is the craziest interview I have ever done. I came to this interview genuinely thinking I could get him to think about his actions and start living for himself, but I guess I was naive.... Josh turned out to be even worse than I expected 😨(If that was at all possible) and the interview just seemed to get worse and worse as we continued talking.
Ps. For everyone's safety, please do not harass, cyberbully, dox or directly engage with Josh in any way. I do not condone such activities
Cool beans, I thought maybe there was some retaliation or something, I was halfway through when you took it down.
thank you for the great content Ploopy, keep up the great work, FIGHTING!!!
@@xandersaurenmann6958 Me too! I was really confused.
Me too
I was so confused about what happened to the video when I went to comment and it was gone! Thank you for your videos and everything that you put into them. I love your channel so much
I’ll be careful with my words because this man clearly needs a lot of help. But you have the patience of a saint.
Oh hey you! I never knew you liked kpop!! :D
And yes... This is very sad to see. There are unfortunately a lot of men who can fall down this sort of rabbit hole...
No he need the dose of reality smh I do think he need help he scary and don’t think he in the wrong
@@sunebites I don't know if he ever mentioned kpop, but he used to have his loona lightstick in the background of his videos :D His intros are/used to be? kpop instrumentals too!
@@cat86581 really?
@@cat86581 I'm even more of a fan now LOL never noticed
This video needs to be shared with German and South Korean authorities. TOO OFTEN, threats to women are ignored until it’s too late- even with a restraining order. Thank you for your bravery, Evangeline. Keep safe please.
Agreed
Complete disagree. No way leave us out of this, we don’t claim him! There is no need to give this maniac additional platforms. Yees it’s something that needs awareness, but giving examples of people like him could give him the illusion that he needs to fight harder as everyone is against him, we can see signs of it in the interview. That’s something the authorities shall deal with. It’s not the right thing to do to share active stalker cases to raise awareness.
@@HopeeInk Sharing this interview with authorities isn't "giving him additional platforms". Nayeon's safety NEEDS to be taken seriously. This interview perfectly shows that Josh is dangerous. Authorities need to step in.
YES THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS! The amount of times I've watched true crime podcasts and reports of stalking go ignored by the police is insane you'd think they learn from the past instances of this but nooo
@@HopeeInk ….this isn’t K-pop. I know as a K-pop fan we know that giving attention=giving a platform but this is a completely different situation. This guy has threatened Nayeon’s LIFE and her safety, we need to notify the authorities and JYP in order for him to be locked up or for justice to be served somehow. We might disagree which is fine but I will be shouting from every rooftop: This guy is dangerous and needs to be LOCKED UP. Not only for Nayeon’s sake but all women; you never know, this kind of obsession isn’t exclusive to celebrities. What if after this he goes and harasses someone else? Someone who may not have company backing like JYP?
"There is a 90% chance that Nayeon truly loves me and there is a 10% chance that she hates me" - no bro but there is a 100% chance that the only thing she knows about you is that you are a stalker. this really was one of the most disturbing videos i ever watched
I say it's more like 97%. She's obviously obsessed with him the way she has fans go after him. He would be ignored if she wasn't wanting him.
@@WallyTony fans go after him because he could become a serious threat for her life with how obsessed he is (especially because he previously showed that he is not afraid to leak private information like phone numbers and take the same flight to talk to them etc.) also it makes literally no sense that an idol is obsessed with a stalker because fans hate said stalker tf you talking about. he doesn't get ignored because he is a stalker that already went to far and still doesn't stop
@@WallyTonywtf r u saying
I wouldn't even say it like that lol
I would probably be like "10% are still 10%"
Throws people more off guard if you agree with them in such a way.
I’m hoping it’s a 100% she doesn’t know Josh cause she doesn’t need to deal with this problem like so many celebrities with their stalkers
As someone who is a Once and a fan of Christina Grimmie, I genuinely fear for Nayeon's safety. This needs to get reported to the authorities immediately because I don't want to have to wake up one morning to find out (yet again) that one of my favorite singers was murdered by an obsessive fan.
nayeon need bodyguards forever, this guy won't give up since he had put so much "effort "in it, he will turn his love to hate when nayeon get a boyfriend /get married
@@Lyla-rl5bk he should be behind bars forever and they should give him a restraining order again
@@Lyla-rl5bkHe also stated that he would kill her…
@@Who_is_this_da_heckallegedly. That was never proven to be him behind that account and considering he has no problem taking claim to anything else he's said and done, I seriously doubt it
He’s not even a fan at least based on the interview.
He’s delusional and think he’s right while treating everyone is illogical and dumb.
The fact that he said the murderer was a victim because Christina did not give him "clarity" when he is saying the same about Nayeon is absolutely frightening. Please protect the poor girl.
Nayeon doesn't owe him anything. He is using saseangs (the so-called supporters) and he has quite a misogynistic view of relationships. He is obsessive, possessive and dangerous.
@@catherinemonast3711 Nobody disagrees with you here....
@@Hoid. i think they were just adding onto your point🤔 not sure
Men as usual dumb enough to not see the fucking obvious: Women don't own them anything. 😒
*woman
the way josh was screaming at evangeline and she was just like 🧍🏻♀️
HAHAHAHAH
yes hes a narcissist
And I was like 👊 at Josh
@@lunareclipzeee me too but from what I'm reading his mom tried to kill him when he was a kid or something like that so he's all messed up , that guy needs help fr
@@icedespresso3380 Yes but sometimes his actions make me really angry. I hope Nayeon is okay and this guy gets mental help, He is mad.
How can he claim to “truly love” Nayeon when he believes that she is unable to think logically, and that what she does is mindless entertainment for children? How can he possibly love Nayeon when he harbours so many nasty feelings towards herself and her family/friends? He is a very scary person. JYPE had better protect Nayeon from this type of person, because he’s not alone.
Because he fantasizes about domesticating and controlling a celebrity so he can say "yeaah,, I bagged that"
If they ever EVER date. He will not respect her and will abuse her. Simple. The way he belittle her career, her English ( he made cmmts before saying how bad her english is vs his) her friends and family over all. He is saying he's better for her than anyone . The way he said she needs to talk to him/audacity he " deserves" a talk with her. Even if she said NO straight to his face he will say it's a lie, he won't believe her , he'll say work is making her say NO. He will never respect and truly love her . He is psycho.
I did imagine what if nayeon accepted him,I don't think he will respect her
Josh views people like Nayeon as inferior to him in every single way. Her race, her job, her gender, and even how she speaks languages that she's not too familiar with. If Nayeon ever does accept (which there is probably a 0% chance of that ever happening), she'll be manipulated, gaslighted, abused and she could possibly killed. Jyp is not a great company, everyone knows that. But at the very least, they are putting in effort to prevent Nayeon to be harmed by this insane man and I hope they continue to do so.
@@mani-ei5kq no
@@hamzakachchach1368 That's all you have to say? No? It really bothered you that much that I said a stalker who views the victim of his stalking as inferior to him that much? Get a life and learn how to handle the truth. I mean if this is the kinda stuff he says to an asian woman for disagreeing with him, imagine what'd happen if Nayeon disagreed with him
@@mani-ei5kq JYP is not a great company, seriously lmaooo
he says girls let their emotions take over them as if he didn't literally spend millions of his money just because he has a crush on a girl (that doesn't even like him back) 💀
And he got so heated when Ploopy gave him genuine advice 🤡
These incels are always like that... first of all, being a sensitive person is not a flaw + men are way more emotional and rage way easier whilst having no emotional intelligence
girls let their emotions take over them, he says, as he thrashes and screams and pops a blood vessel ...
He believes 90% that nayeon likes him back 🤣
Said that as he was blowing up with anger😭
"You are a girl. You often go by how you feel. You do not have the mental capacity to think logically."
Aaaaaand that tells me all I need to know about what kind of person Josh is.
yeap... seems common between these types of men that think they are "smart" and study things related to stem... sigh
Bet, he wouldn't say this about Nayeon.
I'm all for adoration of an idol and having a celebrity crush. But taking it to the point where you stalk them is a serious issue. However what I'm more concerned about is that this guy spent a whopping 3M EUROS just to stalk a kpop idol. Personally I find it more pathetic than weird.
@@orion5445 yeah fr… and for him to expect her to pay it back💀💀
@@soosoolar Idk if I'm weird but I don't know whether to be concerned or to laugh. Bc this guy is potentially dangerous but he's also a joke.
It’s crazy how he condemns delusional obsessive fans but is completely unaware that he IS the ultimate delusional obsessive one. This dude def has his screws loose.
I doubt he has a single screw that is fully tightened. Screws so loose that they have all fallen out
He’s mentally ill
The disturbing part is that he's definitely not the only one that's like this. I still remember that one guy stalked an idol by using a reflection from her eyeball from her selfie..... If you're reading this and you know you have these kind of tendencies....please please please get help, get therapy, talk to a friend . You'll only hurt everyone around you and yourself.
Sheesh. I heard about that Crazy Incident. For somebody to just get a glimpse through someone's Eyeball all due to the reflection is even more Insane. That's like something out of a Comic Book.
I thought Oli London was crazy enough, but this guy is on an entirely different level🤯
He definitely needs mandatory counseling from a psychiatrist.
Man, I can't imagine what Josh would do to Evangeline if this conversation was done face to face. Massive salute sister❤️
Oily London it’s just an attention seeker but this guy is delusional and quite frankly dangerous.
Oli is just a clout chaser, this guy is a genuine danger.
@@heavyrain5949 Yup Josh is like the Japanese stalker (can't remember his name) who stabbed an underground Japanese singer because she rejected him.
Now, Oli is chasing Rosé from Blackpink, and that's how I realized that he's just a mad clout chaser.
Oli london doing all that because he seeks attentions, while this guys is really obsessed, very very dangerous if u ask me
At least with Oli the only person he's damaging is himself
Josh in the beginning: I'm a normal loving person
Josh in the end: Justifies the killing of christina grimmie and says that her murderer was the real victim and she was in the wrong.
The amount of delusion this man has defies the laws of physics.
hes a fucking psychopath
There are red flags from the beginning, nothing he said was normal
This dude triggers me so much that I had to stop watching at 15 minutes. As a woman myself that was stalked by her ex boyfriend for over a year, I cannot believe how delusional a person can be. And I'm truly frustated about the fact that nobody is doing anything to help Nayeon. This guy should be in jail, what the hell
Ikr!
Unfortunately he won’t be the last stalker. Anyone can be when they’re not mentally well.
He hasn’t posted in a year so I hope he’s getting the help he needs for Nayeon safety. Actually, not just Nayeon safety but just any girl safety he see in the future
This is genuinely terrifying. I really fear for Nayeon's safety and well being. Unless this is treated seriously, and they permanently eject him from Korea, I fear this will end tragically for her. Little by little, he's getting closer and closer. Absolutely terrifying. Praying for her safety 🙏🏼
this man is dangerous and deluded. he wants to be y/n so bad… jokes aside, i hope jype continues to take action against him, because after hearing him talk, especially about christina, it’s clear that he’s very dangerous. i hope the girls are staying safe and have proper security around them. thanks for posting this video, i didn’t know just how deep it was.
Yes I genuinely did not expect things to be this bad.
Ikr how is she filed a restraining order, not clarity???
@@xandersaurenmann6958 From my understanding, he believes Nayeon was coerced/ forced into filing the restraining order. Furthermore, because the restraining order was later withdrawn (due to administrative issues), he now believes Nayeon had taken a stand and withdrawn the order because she likes him back.
@@ploopy678 he continuously makes excuses to fit his narrative, he’ll never “get clarity” and that’s what’s so dangerous about him.
100%
His comments about Christina Grimmie are truly terrifying. I feel so bad for Nayeon, I hope she’s safe. As horrific as this is, I’m glad you got this on video - I hope Korean law enforcement sees this and does more.
U know he is at d police station n asks for nayeon's help? Im not sure if he still there but korean police search for him n brought him there to investigate for tht airplane case..i hope he still there tho. This man is so dangerous!
what did he say about chrsitina
It’s probably not that simple to just arrest him since he doesn’t live in Korea
@@sisterslife619 he support the person who kell Christina n said the keller was the real victim juz bcz he nvr get the answer from her
You know what's more insane is that there are actually people who supports this guy's delusions and provides him the details & information that he needs about Nayeon.
Also, this interview clearly shows how messed up his mind/thinking is (compared to the videos that he uploads in his youtube channel where he's always calm and well composed)
I don’t get why his family are not initiating an intervention he’s a danger to self/others he’s clearly manic n has possible dual diagnosis
I kinda wonder how many actually support him. Could be a good number of trolls that want to see what he will do
Quite a bit of those 3 million he spent (if it's real) is probably to pay/bribe people for information.
I cannot imagine how flight/vacation costs and sorts could lead to such an amount otherwise.
He is completely deranged. I don’t think he is gonna stop anytime soon. It’s kinda insane that he is this open and loud with his delusions and we are still seeing videos from him every other month for years now. Imagine being Nayeon having to worry even in the comfort of your home knowing that a deranged person is prob out there on a prowl to look for you. This man needs to be restrained back home and be given serious help.
I hope he never stops and gets the love he's been searching for. He's no more obsessed as most BTS fans are.
@@WallyTony no
Because he truly believes he’s not doing anything wrong
Josh: I am not a stalker
Also Josh: I know where Nayeon gets her makeup/hair cut!!!
That was scary
@@Remarkable269 True he needs help.
The thing is most stalkers don’t think they’re stalking
This guy is the prime example of what a murderer's personality is like. Words can't describe the amount of fear I felt from hearing his words. Seriously....I was, IN REAL LIFE, gasping, wanting to claw my eyes out, and rubbing my temples of stress (I had to pause the video multiple times to regain my composure and not get sucked into his nonsensical, disgusting ramblings). And I am usually straight-faced throughout any video I watch. This video has affected me a bit, and now I'm just concerned over this whole situation. I would kind of brush it off whenever I'd see this guy pop up, only because I never really follow closely with idol news anymore and just thought this was just some delusional fan. But no, delusional doesn't scratch the surface of what this man is. I am terrified to know that people like him exist. And I PRAY Nayeon stays safe during this time, because it sadly seems he hasn't calmed down over the years from his first initial offense. I hope Korean police are on the look out for him too, because this is not a joke. These are warning signs.... and this is the time to be on high alert. I do not want anything to happen to Nayeon, any of the other members, or just any other person he may cross paths with. I PRAY that she and the girls are protected to the max and that this situation resolves in a peaceful ending somehow..
I like to watch true crime stories...this guy is a physco....there is a case of a Japan saseng who literally stabbed a jpop idol she was mayu Tamiya in early 2000'or mid or latest 1990s ...he slit her throat,she almost died and can't sing again....her stalker was just as obssesed as this weirdo
@Migäu what..what do u mean
@Migäu oh gosh! He was also “in love” with your sister?
@Migäu 😳woow. This is crazy...he had the nerve to threatened ur sister...he is a coward dude then....I hope nayeon has a sibling to literally kick his ass
@Migäu I hope.ur sister us ok now and never bothered her again
no matter what anyone says, i am so glad you did this. more people needs to know how dangerous he is. i did think he was just an obsessed fan but this interview proves that he is way more dangerous than an obsessed fan or a sasaeng. the fact that he defended a murderer and called him a victim is very chilling. i hope JYPE watches his so they know how dangerous he is.
Notable points/quotes:
"i am the only one who truly loves nayeon. more than her mother, more than her best friends" - says he truly loves her but asks her to 'repay' all of his efforts if she rejects her. how is this logical?
"you are a girl, you often go by how you feel because you have no mental capacity of thinking logically" - can anything sound more misogynistic?
"i think a lot about my actions" - says the one who leaks chaeyoung's number without a second thought of repercussions
he thinks nayeon will kill herself if he gives up on her ???? i have no words
"statistically asian woman is the least likely to love others" so not only he is misogynistic, he is also a racist
unfortunately after this, i don't think anyone can ever take him out of his delusion state - not even nayeon herself. i'm really scared for her safety now i hope she applies for a restraining order again.
He seems stereotypical too
Not that this changes much but I think you meant stereotypical based off what you said. I haven’t watched the whole video yet so he could have very well said something racist
Not like Nayeon should talk to him. Even if the off chance they meet and no physical violence is done he’ll harassed her for money
As a women in tech this incel mindset is quite common in this area
This interview is insane. In Seoul, recently, a young woman was killed in a subway station by her stalker (a co-worker). I truly hope the Korean authorities take this issue seriously for Nayeon's safety, and all victims of stalking.
I feel like this 100% can be used as evidence at some point… especially with him trying to say that a murderer was a victim. And spewing all that crap about taking revenge. All in all he’s truly terrifying
yup we have to take him down
Idk if they can arrest him since he doesn’t live in sk and if they can arrest him probably just with threats
I'm just hoping that nothing bad has to happen for the authorities to finally start taking this more seriously.
I live in germany, and I tell you, it's extremely hard to get a psychotherapy appointment here. There are long waiting lists, and some places will just outright reject anymore applicants. It might also get really expensive, since many therapists don't accept insurance. it's the same with psychiatrists, and in this case, you only have 10 minutes appointment time.
It makes sense that after all these years, he hasn't changed a single bit.
yeah, but his family is rich af and he can definitely afford a private care at a youth facility
I also wonder how the frick he never ended up in an asylum, but it's not even surprising, many mentally ill people roam around freely and are a menace to others, the law is not really doing much about it until it's too late
since you live in Germany, i have a question, is it true that his dad is a politician? former CEO of Mercedez-Benz or something like that? Because if thats true, not sure why nobody from JYP contacted him. Would have been nation wide news that his son is going mad shit in Korea
1. It's not the therapist's choice not to accept all insurances: certain insurances simply don't cover psychotherapy.
2. To get a psychotherapy, you need to want it by yourself. I don't think that he is in any kind interested in changing.
Therapy can't help him. His disease is being an entitled male.
Seriously ? You only have 10 minutes to talk ? That's so depressing
The fact that he thinks she'll kill herself if he stops trying 💀 I was so scared the entire time this is so disturbing and it's very obvious that he won't stop doing what he does even if he ever gets over nayeon he would still do it to other celebrities or other normal girls and that's so unsettling he shouldn't be left free in society.
This man is an actual danger to Naeyon. I'm having a stalker like this and the similarities are striking. They all say that they're "not a stalker" and that they're "completely sane" and that it is just "no one understands how it truly is." They always think they're right and cannot except the idea that they are in the wrong or that their actions are crazy. It is actually scary.
I hope JYP Entertainment continues to press charges against him and that Naeyon remains safe. I'm actually very nervous for her.
God I had a stalker similar to this in college but not he was afaird of the police and other males to continue. The fact that this guy is not afraid of a big company, police, and reality is terrifying.
CAP😂😂😂
@@khalidoz101 What bro? Get a life
@@khalidoz101 right now it not the time to make joke it not funny
"There's a 90% chance Nayeon loves me." This guy is absolutely delusional. He needs a lot of help. He should start by getting help onto a plane and out of Korea and then he needs to see the best psychiatrist in Germany.
the thing is as long as he refues the help a psychiatrist cant do much ... sadly
Seriously he thinks that Nayeon would k*ll herself if he breaks up with her 🤦♂️
@@Sonnenanbeterin1991 can’t he be involuntary put in an asylum. Here in the U.S, this much evidence can put you in a asylum by a judge. Shouldn’t his parents intervene
BRO HE WASN'T LETTING HER FINISH EVEN 1 SENTENCE, I WOULD HAVE GONE MAD
Its funny that he claims to love nayeon but then proceed to insult her choice of profession
He is really strange indeed
I'm blown away by this video. Even removed from the kpop context you were able to show what a genuine delusional stalker looks like in real life and how they justify their delusions. Brining up Christina was very smart and his views on that are truly scary. It reveals a side of his thinking that could be so dangerous. Serious kudos to you for this, I hope it does some good.
Apparently it won't because there's a fair amount of people mad she's "giving him a platform", some even reported her LMAO
@@karcavida3250 people like that are the internet warriors who think they have some kind of moral/intellectual high ground. It’s clear that “giving him a platform” is not the intention of the video at all not does it come of that way. She is trying to spread awareness while also allowing people to gauge how serious the matter/his mindset is. Sorry for replying to your comment this is in now way aimed at you but the people who say that😖
this fucker needs to be put under the jail
@@karcavida3250
tbh, they kinda have a point by feeling that way and thinking that way. this is enabling him, in a way. it’s gonna give him more of a stronger determination to reach and get to her.
exactly! so many people who have to suffer from sickos like him. it’s so heartbreaking to see this go on, he doesn’t even see how wrong his actions are.
"COMMUNICATION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL, ALWAYS COMMUNICATE!!!" he says while screaming over you and refusing to let you speak for an hour
The fact that he always says that he want his money back just make me angry
i mean tell me when the hell nayeon asked you to come to korea and send letters or gifts
If i would have an interwiew with him i would either laugh or argue with him
I would be so combative lmfao
This is Erotomania. They even believe their 'lover' is 'communicating' with them with another medium like the way they dressed, the way they eat, the way they act. in this case, he believe Nayeon is communicating with him through lyrics. This is a very severe psychotic disorder.
Edit: He has found out where she lives. It now takes a code, a lazy body guard and incompetent police for something bad to happen to her. She is in real DANGER.
Remember: stalkers have KILLED their victims because no one takes the stalker situation serious. Not even when the victim has been murdered. I beg people to not look at this situation in a ligthly tone. In one way Nayeon is "lucky" in that she has a huge support network to keep her safe, like her fans, company and members. But she is also unlucky being in a industry that promotes parasocial relationships to an insane degree. I wish nothing more than this man to go to prison for life.
He needs to be dragged out of Korea and never allowed in again. He's clearly not well. Look at his eyes. Keep him away from social media, and in an institution.
And this everyone, is the absolute perfect example of a typical kpop Stan that likes to over exaggerate every little action x10
@@Dominicn123 so typical of people to dismiss real dangers for women...
@@Dominicn123 Those celebrities that got killed by the stalkers thought the same thing. Thanks for telling us you're clueless. 🤦♂
@@Dominicn123 did you even watch the full video mf??? 🤨 this guy seriously needs help
This guy needs some major help and quickly. Does he seriously not see how he's scaring not only Nayeon's fans who genuinely care about her safety and well being but also Nayeon herself?
I'm genuinely afraid for Nayeon that this might end up turning into a rehash of the 2016 Mayu Tomita stalker incident with this guy. I definitely don't want to see that happen to her or anyone ever again.
Agreed.
Agreed
Agreed
Agree, however with Nayeon. She has more security and ppl looking after her. Mayu Tomita didn't have that as she was just starting out as an artist. So I do hope Nayeon is safe.
@@tkp97 That is true about with Mayu Tomita and with Nayeon
What he said about Grimmie really makes me HATE HIS GUTS. Absolute disgust. She was so adored by so many and to call her a murderer is so effing rude. Gah.
Im not even halfway through the video and this is highly disturbing. Its literally hurting my stomach to hear how psychotic this person is and the thought of coming across someone like this and having them become obsessed with you is quite terrifying. I can only hope that legal action and high security will help Nayeon from this unhinged person. He needs to be locked away out of society because the antipsychotics are not working for him at all.
I knew this man was misogynistic af from the beginning when he kept interrupting you but wtf he’s said some messed up stuff. This is why misogyny is so dangerous. This man truly believes nayeon OWES him a response to his advances when she doesn’t even know who this man is.
He is the typical mysognist incel who thinks that just because he is putting “effort” into a women that she needs to be awed and in love with him lol ??
@@fdscrl6016 yes literally and I’ll never be able to understand that mindset.
He talks about Nayeon as if she was a helpless young girl who is controlled by JYP when she is a grown ass woman 💀💀 It also wouldn’t surprise me if he was in incel platforms. Watch the misogynistic men comment under here saying ‘nOt aLl MeN’ let’s hope that crowd doesn’t come ;-;
The "normally I'm surrounded by smart people" remark was a dead giveaway.
@@riffgroove omg I for;f it HIKARIOUS it kinda sounded like ‘I’m not like other guys’
Some of the takeaway after I watched this video:
1. He pretty much treat anyone who is not on his side as evil or some sort of antagonists.
2. He always justify his actions & words as something normal, no matter how vile or ridiculous is it.
3. Evangeline practically risking herself for trying to debate with him, she is very brave and I respect that.
4. I should subscribe.
Edit1: EVERYONE should subscribe.
Edit2: well, maybe except josh.
do you think he has bpd or something
@@goobiedoobi I have heard that he takes or used to take medicine like quetiapine. quetiapine is mainly used to treat schizophrenia, psychosis and bipolar disorder.
@@Isa06137 Yeah, I watched this interview a while ago but I think I remember Evangeline mentioning it somewhere it the video. I guess it would explain his behaviour?
from what i've understood he had a genuine interest in her, but for many reasons like the fact that she's unreachable and the fact that he's been met with hate from all the fanbase he slowly triggered some mental issues like bpd or schizophrenia.
he needs help
@@goobiedoobiNPD
It’s scary how he has went dark for a year almost 2 now.. I still worry about naeyeon… I hope he never gets his hands on her bc that’s were it’s headed.. if he wants he’ll get her..
Thats what I'm saying. At least you knew what he was up to but now it's silence. I'm hoping it's because his family finally intervened.
It makes me hope he stopped but I have doubts about this considering he’s been at this for years and his videos are still up there.
There are 3 scenarios I could think of
1. He’s still in SK trying to get to Nayeon…. dangerous
2. He was arrested and place in prison or mental asylum. (I have doubts about this consider there no report but then again police don’t need to report everything)
3. His family and friends saw out of hand this has gotten, tricked him to come back to Germany and involuntary put him in a mental asylum
The fact that he thinks the bodyguards on the plane were the problem. THEY WERE DOING THEIR JOB. Obviously they’ll jump on him!
When he said "not even her mom", it was over. Clearly, he doesn't know how Koreans value respect when it comes to their parents and elders. If this man will not be removed from Korea anytime soon, he'll be the biggest headline in Kpop History. And I hope JYP doesn't let it get to that point. This man is clearly a psycho and will disregard anything just to get what he wants. A man who has nothing to lose is really dangerous. Really... fucking.. dangerous.
yes the korean police needs to kick him out and jyp ban him from all events
Ikr
i lobe twice but i hope they never do a concert in my country... her safty is top priority
‼️I feel like something that's really sad and makes him extra scary is this guy is very intelligent as well. He was smart enough to not reveal any of this in his own videos, he's smart enough to be able to speak at least three languages fluently. Smart enough to already get close to her a few times. He is smart enough to pass as normal if you didn't know who he was. He isn't like some crazy person muttering and talking to themselves on the subway that everyone can tell has something going on mentally. THAT is what makes this guy so scary in my opinion. He's smart enough to formulate a plan and wait for his opportunity. The way I look at it is this guy doesn't believe he needs help because he doesn't believe he's in the wrong. So he's never going to get over this obsession. How long will he have to be obsessed before he manages to catch her alone. 10 years? 15 years? Is he going to show up to her wedding in the future? I just feel like this guy is smart enough to wait for his opportunity and delusional enough to wait however long it takes to get an opening.
@@WhitneyDahlin I really wonder where his family is in all this
Genuinely disturbing interview. You did a great job letting him tell his story and challenging him. He willingly showed everyone his dangerous incel views on women. He kept saying Nayeon owed him a response. She doesn’t owe him anything and I hope he never gets near her.
I was wondering if anyone noticed he was quoting in cel logic verbatim! I suspect he's heavily involved in the Incel community and they are encouraging him. He might even be involved in the stalker community which tends to meet on a subreddit called r/obsessivelove. He definitely seems like he's an incel. But I don't think he is actually one! Cuz he said he has relationships before so I feel like he's voluntarily celibate honestly because he doesn't want anyone but her. Idk. I can't help but feel bad for him because I truly believe he's so mentally ill he doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong. He is truly so delusional that he doesn't realize what he's doing is hurtful and bad. He can't tell wrong from right. Obviously that doesn't make him any less dangerous. But I can't bring myself to feel anything but pity for him. He's going to get more and more frustrated the longer his obsession goes on. And then when she inevitably ends up in a relationship even if that's not for 5 10 or 15 years from now he's going to hurt her or someone else.
I'm a true crime fan and wow, this guy is a murderer in the making. He's literally saying the guy was right for killing Christina. They should do something about this guy or Nayeon is in real serious danger.
This guy has the audacity to tell you that you "often go by how you feel" and that "you can't think logically" while simultaneously making the most outlandish leaps in logic I have ever seen.... not to mention he cannot seem to do it without screaming, ranting, and getting caught up in his..... wait for it.... emotions!
Honestly, I really appreciate the fact that you made this video... I understand that people might see it as harmful seeing as how you "gave him a platform" but tbh it's probably the best thing you could have done to bring the issue to light... Since Josh is hellbent on claiming that everyone is out to get him and everything is fake headlines and lies, his unedited words are the most damning evidence of how illogical his perspective truly is and how dangerous this can be if left unchecked.
And truthfully, I just want to see Josh get help... Obviously, I'm not a psychologist, but it seems to me that Josh is facing some sort of mental illness that has manifested itself into this incredibly unhealthy obsession with Nayeon, a K-Pop idol he doesn't even know personally. I don't say "mental illness" as an insult, or as a way to excuse his behavior (because it is simply inexcusable)... But At the end of the day, Josh needs to be the one to take ownership of his actions.... and even though you were very respectful, reasonable, and logical in your counters against his claims, there's only so much you can do against someone who refuses to acknowledge the reality of the situation.
Case and point, mad respect for you... You handled it like a champ and I pray that maybe this can spark positive change in this whole situation
"I'm only surrounded by people who are smart"
"You as a girl do not have the mental capacity to think logically"
"What Nayeon does is put out mindless entertainment for children"
Bruh, is he for real? That's some next level self-entitlement.
“I’m only surrounded by people who are smart”
Kinda makes me question who the people he was with. Either he was shelter, the people around know he’s mentally ill, or the group around him is chilled for leaking another number
the fact that you asked "if she rejected you, do you think you would be justified in hurting her?" and his immediate response isn't "NO" is... so frightening. jesus christ.
❓I wonder if he's involved in some I c e 1 groups online. A lot of the crazier and more extreme stuff he says is verbatim 1n ce l rhetoric. They also encourage each other on those sites. There is also a subreddit for stalkers to talk about their victims called r/obsessivelove. He sounds a lot like some of the people on there too. The internet is both the best thing to ever happen to the world and the absolute worst thing to ever happen in the world.
It’s their way of finding acceptance as what josh is doing. Hope he eventually gets the right help.
@@iwantmyplaylist I hope so too! He's clearly very intelligent! He speaks at least 3 languages fluently and that's not counting the computer languages he knows. I hope someone in his life loves him enough to do whatever it takes to get him help
he says that people need to learn English, engineering, science, the kpop industry is for children, and that ASIAN WOMEN are incapable of love. But he insists that hes in love with an ASIAN WOMAN who's a KPOP SINGER and only speaks KOREAN?? she sounds like the exact opposite of his type.
It's funny how he wants to prove his love with rage and is mostly interested in making his invested money back now. LOL
He sounds like he actually hates Nayeon underneath it all. His rants about celebrities, women, and Asian women specifically. He even called Nayeon stupid at some point. As well as his hatred of Christina grimmie. He’s violent and would definitely attack or kill her. This is so clear.
Also why would you think he could be reasoned with? That was also clear from his videos alone, that he isn’t reasonable at all.
Yes, what he feels is not love but obsession. He's just mental and doesn't know the difference. Nice initials 😊
Its obsession not really hate
@@mikhail-cybertastic5349 he’s a misogynist
At 1:27:55 this man basically goes on a rant justifying Christina Grimmie's stalkers decision to kill her. And he calls Christina a murderer, says her killer is a victim and that he feels bad for him ????!?! This stalker is a psychopathic monster. Nayeon needs to be protected from him pleaaassseeee
Ikr
What baffles me is that EVEN IF we agreed that the guy was the victim because he was cheated on (which is DEFINITELY NOT TRUE, they were NEVER in a relationship) Josh still says that murder is okay in this situation.
Like WHAT?!
If someone cheats that gives them the right to murder someone?!
This should tell everyone how this situation will likely play out if he every gets to opportunity to get anywhere near Nayeon. He has already threatened to kill her if he ever found out that she was dating.
Yeah, if you get to the point where you're making excuses for murder because you relate to the killers, that's a big red flag.
i feel like i'm going to be sick
he so obviously puts himself in the shoes of Christina Grimmie's killer, he sees himself like him, that's why he defends him so hardcore and it makes him so emotionnal to talk about him. he relates to him HARD.
That makes me scared for nayeons saftey because why tf is he still in korea
@@Kpips99 I hope JYPE actually does what needs to be done to keep him away from her...I'm sure they will...
@@Kpips99 I mean they need proof cuz the plane thing it’s not illegal for him to be on the same plane as them and it’s not easy to arrest him since he doesn’t live in sk
I remembered about Choi Siwon's tweet to the sasaengs : Truly loving someone is understanding & caring for them, not invading their privacy, stalking them or spreading baseless rumors about them. My mother always said to me that love can happen over time, but you shouldn't force anything. I used to be a creep like Josh when I was in junior high school. It's like you're losing your true purpose in your life, sometimes you've got a big willing to made him/her as yours only but you do some dangerous decision to approach him/her and didn't realize that it broke your dignity (you've only got bad rumors, bad scores, toxic friend, etc).
Josh said he's truly love Nayeon 90% (based on his own statement), but it turns out he makes her uncomfortable. So for a conclusion Josh is a creep who has a lust on Nayeon.
This video has been one of the most craziest and shocking interview that I have ever come across. Firstly a huge respect to you Evangeline for keeping yourself calm and defending Nayeon and your bravery in having the courage to confront Josh. As I saw Josh is that man who is totally lost in his head. TOTALLY!!! His infatuation for Nayeon has totally consumed his brain and his body. This bloke doesn't even know to speak in Korean in the first place and he blabbers so much stupid facts and stuff. I hope the Korean Govt keeps Nayeon and all the members of Twice safe from deluded people like Josh. I want all celebs around to be safe from harm and danger around the world. The fans love them and need them. I really hope Josh remembers whatever he had said. The day which he will regret with all his soul isn't very far away.
#KeepNayeonsafe
I sat here and watched the entire unedited version, uninterrupted and in awe.
Josh is perhaps a clear case study for chronic delusion, narcissism, and possible schizophrenia.
Judging by her expressions, Evangeline was clearly getting flustered and probably overwhelmed by Josh's absurd delusions. The fact that he's in South Korea and is apparently able to spend €3M on trips to South Korea & Japan on a whim clearly mean he's well off in Germany. What's even more alarming is he seems to imply that Nayeon 'owes him' an explanation and even owes him for the money he spent on his trips.
He lacks accountability, feels morally superior to everyone around him which hints at his narcissism. "I'm surrounded by smart people." This means his friends and family either enable him or are too afraid to react to him.
Whether or not he acts on his actions it is clear he lacks any sense of empathy and justifies the murder of Christina Grimmie which is alarming.
I do find odd the South Korean immigration authorities did not pick up on his run-ins with law enforcement when he applied for his K-ETA visa as South Korea now requires you get that before boarding a flight to South Korea.
Regardless of the case, he is a clear and present danger to Nayeon and Twice as a unit.
yea hes all messed up
Where did u find it?
@@brennathecatlover4360 I read his mom tried to kill him or some shit when he was a kid
@@icedespresso3380 was that true tho or just a rumor
@@brennathecatlover4360 not confirmed yet but if true would explain his warped point of view also it is said his father owns a jewelry company and from my experience my uncle is a jewelry company owner too and his son grew up ignored and later on got into drugs and arrested and a bunch of shit. That job pays alot but also makes you greedy and compulsive I've heard so it could also be why his dad ignored him and he went crazy.
The way he looses his patience clearly shows how he's so dangerous and its so good that your interview was online because if it was a physical one it would've been dangerous for you too
Thanks for doing this. I was a fan of Christina Grimmie after 'Wrecking Ball' voice audition and 'Get Yourself Together' off of only album. While watching his rant was painful, even after all these years, it was the one time he dropped all pretense, and admitted he would kill her if given the chance. I pray this interview was shown to his boss, or the police, or whoever might have enough influence or control to commit him. If I remember correctly, Grimmie's case was a little different in that her killer had not stalked her or given any indication that he was obsessed or dangerous until he showed up in Orlando.
40:05 As a German lawyer: the german taxpayers don't have to pay anything. Josh has to pay the court in the first place and everybody at the court will just laugh and shake their heads 😂
I'm actually so glad that you did this interview over the internet and not face to face, because he seems like he has the ability to get violent when you disagree with him. He just can't handle it that you have a different opinion. It is so scary that he was able to get so close to Naeyon on the plane before her managers and the staff caught him. I'm surprised Twice wasn't on a private flight. I hope they are from now on because their safety is at stake otherwise, I feel.
Also as a German person...we do not claim him and he is not welcome back. I would prefer his new home was the sun.
@@alaskavand1043 broski tbh 🥲 I'm scared to move to college there because I had an college admission there
@@icecreamlid Don't let creeps get in the way of your dreams. Do the thing anyways just be cautious! Put your safety first ofc but chase what you wanna do as much as you can
@@alaskavand1043 🧍♀️ I'm bringing an knife, incase
@@icecreamlid That's a good idea! I always keep one.
I hope that someone could help putting Korean captions on this video so that people in Korea who don't speak English could also watch this. This guy is scary and everyone should be aware of his intentions. I hate that people like him can walk freely until actual crime happens.
☝️ My thoughts exactly. This needs to be translated and then forwarded to JYP, and even Korean authorities, it at all possible.
👏👏👏
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU,THIS NEEDS TO BE TRANSLATED AND DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY JYP AND KOREAN AUTHORITIES
hes a psychopath
@@Appleanddanish JYP knows English...
I feel like even if they did date in an another universe- he would abuse her and treat her badly
I have never seen THIS level of delusion before.
Evangeline, you have my utmost respect for willingly going where few dare tread, and not just for this video…
Hope you kept _yourself_ safe while dealing with Josh… Dude is dangerous and quite insane.
As much as many are tempted, 100% Agree everyone should avoid him like the plague. DO. NOT. ENGAGE.
yeahh true that
It made me quite a bit worried for Evangeline's safety. You never know what he's gonna do next. And the worst part of all of this is that i feel like nobody will take serious action against him until he physically harms someone even though this psychopath has already justified hurting and k*lling people. His "logic" is so wrong and crosses the line. He needs to be stopped before he actually does something horrible
She is also dumb. She gives him more attention - attention that he does not deserve.
You say you respect her for this irresponsible interview and then end the comment with “do not engage”???
So In other words, the alt title vangie should've used is: "I interviewed Josh so you don't have to."
I'm still watching this video but gosh girl, you have handled this interview so professionally and calmly. You have way more patience than I can ever have in my day-to-day life. Especially the second segment where you challenged his views, oh my god. This is so wild. But I have so much more respect for you now.
Not only does he think he is entitled to Nayeon’s love but he also thinks he is entitled to be paid by JYP, the South Korean government and German government if Nayeon rejects him
He should be arrested, and get a insta ban from entering South Korea, at least. These delusional fools can get aggressive. Earlier this week I read about a jpop idol who was stabbed just because the gifts her stalker sent was returned, and so he took the opportunity at an fan meeting to hurt her (thankfully she survived, but the damage was already done). This is really serious.
To me the most likely reason why Nayeon doesn’t respond is because you can’t give stalkers any justification for provocation. Her completely ignoring him speaks louder than if she were to tell him bo 1 time. He’d probably be happy he got any reaction out of her at all and ignite even more fire in him to get more of her attention. Also by responding to this one fan it could birth other fans to copy joshes actions. They’ll think oh that’s what we have to do to get nayeons attention. So no reaction from Nayeon is the best course of action. That’s an answer in itself he just refuses to accept it. You think he’ll accept it if she says it outloud to everyone? Might piss him off.
Is she says No im not interested him this is wat he will think, “SHES TESTING MY LOVE! SHE REALLY MEANS YES!!” It will add fuel to the fire 🔥 🔥 🔥
I disagree with people criticizing you for interviewing him. He is not after attention, he's after Nayeon. Him becoming more recognizable will increase the chances of people spotting him and informing the police or jyp of his moves/whereabouts. Plus, other girls can protect themselves and stay away from this man. Also, I think this is one of the few instances where he shows his true colors, since in his own videos he doesn't say any of the f-ed things he said in this interview (I'm mostly referring to the second part). Some people still think he's an harmless troll.
Agreed! I saw the hate on twitter and I was shocked.
yes this nutcase needs to be put under the jail !
i was like yes and omg he is still stupid enough to post on his youtube channel ... we nee to watch all his steps closely
Other girls shouldn't have to worry. It's clear Nayeon is his one and only. But he did said he will leave Korea if Nayeon told him too. She should just tell him that and hopefully be on his way. The problem is how can she do that and what if he reacts unexpectedly?
@@orion5445 it's clear he's not mentally stable so he could start obsessing abt someone else in the future, it's just better to be safe than sorry for everyone imo.
I also thought abt a safe way for Nayeon to talk to him (maybe through a video message/call) but 1)even if she rejects him, Josh will still believe that jyp is manipulating or lying to her and 2) like you said, we don't know how he could react. He said in this very interview that it's already too late for Nayeon to reject him and even if he was just referring to her having to pay him back the money he has spent for the past 3 years he still said on other instances that if she betrays him he will have to hurt/k*ll her. So yeah, it's way too risky, the police should just find a permanent solution somehow
LMFAOOOO why does he expect her to repay him? It's efforts based on HIS own desires and benefit and not nayeon's. He spent the £3M to fulfill his dream of finally getting in touch with her. It's like asking someone to give u a ride and asking for taxi money when they tell u they can't give u a ride. Dude is an incel and a sociopath.
It's like buying an elephant out of the blue for your neighbors next door, and when they reject it and give it back, you get offended because you find the idea of raising an elephant in a house completely ridiculous, how inconsiderate of them.
Josh knows where Nayeon lives and was outside her apartment building today! Why isn't JYPE doing anything??
Google knows where I live and is tracking every of my actions! Why isn't my government doing anything??
A Japanese girl singer named Mayu Tomita has the exact same scenario 6 years ago. She was attacked and stabbed by a 'fan' who was obsessed with her.
She survived, forrunately. However, she doesn't show her face anymore due to the trauma.
hartbreaking...
A couple of years ago, before his Twitter was deleted, I reached out to him via Twitter DMs. We had a conversation about what he was doing to Nayeon and soon realized that he would not respect her wishes or ever take no for an answer. Nothing can convince him otherwise. I deal with other men like this in my work. He won’t stop. Nayeon will not be safe unless he is barred from ever entering Korea and the authorities internationally take this seriously.
The fact they tour, I hope they just wait until he explodes and police can charge him for hard crime to do hard time. It will be just temporary, he might even get out early or even be labeled insane and get out without being properly institutionalized. Sad fact if a stalker wants a specific person dead, the world just allows it to happen most of the time. I just assume JYPE is working on a big strategy to somehow permanently get this guy to F off. We live ina world where bad people simply have more power. No amount of good bring people back from the dead. It takes so much more good to counter the bad and humanity at its current state doesn't have such ratios. Hope more people in Korea are informed about this guy and that people care. Reading about the idol industry and women, it's hard to say if they will take this as serious as it should be. I know JYPE is taking it seriously, but I question the law enforcement.
@@potatopotential913 according to his sns, he might be in Korea at the moment. Let’s hope everyone is alert enough to keep Nayeon and the girls safe.
The scary thing is even if he's banned from Korea I don't think he'll stop. He could show up in any country when Twice is touring and I'm scared for her
yeah he should be in bars permanently and they should ban him from every country except germany and be in bars at germany so that he couldnt try to run to nayeon after he gets released
What is it that you do for a living?
He doesn't have a side to his story, he either needs to get his ass to therapy or throw himself in the trash. He's dangerous, his thoughts are unhinged, and he feels a sense of entitlement to Nayeon which is the most dangerous. I really hope she stays safe, this is really scary. Stay safe.
It’s so shocking that someone like this actually exists, but I realise that there have been many cases like this in the past. I’m so so terrified for Nayeon and the other members and it’s so frustrating that there hasn’t been drastic measures taken. This guy is so horrible…
I don’t understand how stalkers like this can’t be stopped :/
I know. They will do anything to meet their favorite idol doesn't matter the cost
Honestly, if anything horrible happens to Nayeon (GOD FORBID), all the faults needs to fall onto JYP AND South Korea as a whole for not taking the matter seriously. Filing a restraining order on a person like this will not suffice.
How is he able to even step foot into South Korea? The Korean government has every right to have him deported before he actually commits the crime.
The concern though is that they can’t stop him from visiting cities where Twice is on tour… He needs to be put away somewhere.
@@galaxy_kitten95 It's not that simple. Deportation and banning from the country can only happen in specific very severe cases. Even if they wanted to Jyp and the korean government under the current laws have done as much as possible. Usually something absolutly terrible like an equivalent of a felony would have to happen to get banned. Otherwise the only other way is for Korean citizens to pressure the government to make stricter rules around this.
@@ladydalla Yes..and according to many rumors, Twice is going to have a tour in Europe this year...now I'm really scared
There is a difference between being a fan and a saesang (stalker) this man is delusional and no one deserves to be treated like this and hopefully jype will take more action into keeping their artists safe along with other artists and companies. If he was just a normal fan and just liked the artist/group then it wouldn’t be a problem, but he really had to stalk her and go on the same flight and everything. I really hate when people don’t treat artists like normal people like they go through normal things like us.
Exactly because celebs are people and being in that business is just their job. People need to stop treating them like props
Trueee
yes hes a stalker
I wonder if JYPE is just waiting until police can lock him up as his actions pile up. Scary thing about being an idol is that they tour. He could show up anywhere. Places where guns are more easily accessible. Sucks we can't lock people up as murderers before they murder because this guy clearly has motivation and believes in the justification of murdering of a specific person. Sucks if he is ultimately a victim too of mental illness or poor upbringing but once you become a weapon against society, you don't belong in it. I don't mind seeing this guy rot in a prison cell, but best scenario is he truly gets help and stops. However, there is no guarantee he can be helped and stops. I selfishly would prefer him in jail for life.
@@potatopotential913 I been studying Narcissism for months now , there's a ton of Doctors and mental health specialists who talk about it on yt and it is actually proven that it is a mental disorder . However they all say that it's almost impossible for them to change it's like less that 5% success rate so it's a long shot but the more society opens up about mental health the better . My thing is where is his family and friends , why isn't anyone showing face or at least sending the message that they are trying to get him the help he needs . If that was my son or nephew whatever I would let it be known that I take the blame and we are trying to help him . It's been more than 6 yrs that he's been doing this . Well JYP probably tired of him by now .
This freak show has been very quiet lately! I wonder if he’s in a mental hospital or has been arrested? I hope whatever has happened this vile disgusting creature is now incapacitated in some way!
That’s what I’m wondering - and hoping. I hope he is somewhere safe getting well.
@@DemonaLlama who cares if he is getting well or not? I have not an ounce of compassion for this assclown. People like this don’t ’get well’. He’s clearly got text book narcissistic personality disorder and a whole plethora of other mental health issues that go along with it. NPD is incurable, this guy will be a lifelong freakshow
@@russ9034 If he doesn't get "well" he'll stay a threat to others until he actually hurts someone. So obviously caring if he gets better is important since that's the only way to stop him before he harms anyone. Armchair diagnosis are pointless.
@pigeonsoul1672 I agree with Russ, he cuts a very pathetic and weak character and couldn't be a physical threat to a frozen chicken, so in that respect, he isn't dangerous. He'll never get within 500 metres of Nayeon, so arguably he's no real threat to her apart from mentally due to the nature of his bullshit and even then she may be somewhat shielded from seeing this. I wonder if there will be some ultra pathetic grand finale from him yet, but ultimately, his 'personality type' and his mindset are typical of an overt narcissist.. you don't have to be a medical professional to work that out. I'll personally just hope that he has been restricted or restrained in some way. Maybe he has had his funding cut off or something, or he's finally realised that he doesn't belong in this dimension. I personally just hope this insidious pathetic individual has been muted and as for his personal wellbeing, that's something I also could not give a single f**k about 🤷♂️
@@rickysmith1666 But that's the issue. No, he isn't going to be restrained or similar unless he actually does something. You must have not read about any other cases in which stalkers harmed their victims despite of being "pathetic and weak". A monkey can use a gun and kill a bunch of people. And almost all mass shooters were just as pathetic and weak as this guy, still able to murder countless people. It doesn't take a strong person, they simply have to attack someone unexpectedly or in a vulnerable state or use a non-confrontational force like poison or setting a fire. It's absolutely harmful to spread the idea that weak looking pathetic people can't/don't harm anyone. Crazy people like stalkers that don't follow any rational patterns are absolutely unpredictable as you can't tell how their delusional ideas and irrational emotional reactions escalate. Someone said he still answers on instagram so it doesn't seem like anything bad happened to him. And it's not going to since there is no lawful reason to. And no one here said they care about his wellbeing lol, just that in order to have him not be a threat to other people's well-being he needs to get fixed mentally because he can't just be restrained for no reason.
How his therapist hasn't made a report about him yet is beyond me
The way that he talks about Christina Grimmie’s case is the most sickening I’ve heard in a while …
We have to keep him from Nayeon away he is the type of person who would kill he’s mental! Poor Nayeon :(( praying for her to be safe from him 🙏🏻
Girl props to you for keeping a straight face and a calm composure while he was spilling whatever the hell he was from his mouth. Me personally, I would have matched his energy 100% once he rose his voice at me.
I think the problem is that he's confusing obsession with love, I don't understand how he fell in love with the personality of someone he doesn't really know, and I'm not saying that Nayeon is always fake on camera, but the truth is nobody outside of her close social circle knows much about her, it's really unhealthy to think that you know someone because of the things they do mostly on camera, is natural to like a famous person for the things you can see, you can enjoy the way they act or their charisma, but that's it, you can't say you know or even LOVE these people in a genuine way, that's just not true
This man is literally the personification of the “LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING” meme. Jesus let ploopy get a word in please crazy man 😬
He is insane god I can’t stand him
but kudos to you for reaching out to him and making this very informative video
Im so sad, cause...people like him destroy the chance to see twice here in germany...im really ashamed to live 2 ours away from this man...
can you tell his family or something ? hes become so nuisance after his last video in front her house.
@@akashahan75 he is not living with his family anymore..and i dont know where they life...im scared about the things he said in this video and i hope...korea protect nayeon the way she needs it...cause he is really dangerous...so ashamed to have him here in germany...
@@rainbowbubblegum328 yeah same we have so many stalkers originating from Germany and I wonder why :/
@@itsbierce same here... :/
"im usually surrounded by smart people"
YOUR'E INSANE BRO I HAVE NO WORDS PLEASE JUST GET OUTTA MY SIGHT OML
This sounds like a stretch but Josh is probably the reason that Twice hasn't done a European tour. Think about it tho, the extreme lengths this guy would take, like travelling to Japan just to board in the same plane as Twice to South Korea, that costs alot of money you know. If Twice wants to tour Europe, you'd bet this guy is going to follow them around the continent. It's terrifying to think about this honestly cuz Twice themselves are aware of this guy, Jeongyeon wants to confront this guy if he won't stop being a stalker.
The downside of Schengen. Twice _could_ perform in Britain though -- UK never participated in Mainland Europe's open-internal-borders thing… and they're not in the EU anymore either. Way easier to keep Josh out.
Easier, but not impossible.
@@Soufriere84 It's still super easy for us (EU citizens) to go to Great Britain, though. All you need is a valid passport if you just go there for a short time.
The open borders thing just means you can cross the border without needing a passport, just a valid ID.
This guy definitely has both, just saying.
I truly hope they don’t come to Europe any time soon because there’s no doubt in my mind that this freak will try something. Id love to see them live but I more than anything wish them safety and good health, not having to deal with someone like this
He's in Korea now, how safe is she if not in Europe... Makes no difference, he will track her down no matter where she is, he has the money and time... that's the problem.
Very brave of you to do this interview, these stalkers can be very dangerous.
I hope this guy gets help since this obsession destroys their lives too. There is help out there, so I hopefully someone steps in.
I’m afraid that he to far gone to be help he really think that he love her more than her own mother like who think like this smh
he doesn't want help, he doesn't even think he needs it, that's why no one will want to or be able to step in. if he continues this behaviour, sorry but all i can hope for is that he gets locked up, it's too dangerous for him to be out there
the thing is he doesent want help i guess force him into therapy will not have an result right ?
" *SHES ENTERTAINING CHILDREN* "
wow. If he think her music entertains children then why is he listening and obsessing over her? Sounds pretty childish😊
This was so stressful to watch because of him that I couldn’t finish. You’re a true journalist and I commend your bravery.
I guess it's good that you interviewed him and recorded it. This is literally proof of his inadequacy and intentions. I don't know if the police would be able to use it, probably not, but it might help JYP manage him. Because it's scary
because maybe he know where her parents live / huh i cant imagine how Nayeon can feel now
@@tania4863 he was already at their house once ... i guess he is deep inside the sasaeng circle and pays for information
I don't know if a company can bait him into doing a harsher crime and be sent away. If this goes to court, Josh's lawyers may be able to prove the baiting and Josh can even sue and make JYPE look like the bad guys. I don't know the solution here. If society had actual order and justice, this guy is already locked up.
@@potatopotential913 he actually can't because he has zero valid evidence there was any baiting in question whatsoever, especially when the attorney gets their hands on his med files (I'm pretty sure any confidentiality stops where crime starts, CMIIW). No one forced him to do anything, everything he did was of his own choice.
You’re expressions to josh is exactly how I reacted to this interview if you can even call it that 😂. Great video
A similar case happened to a girl in Korea a man stalked her for years and knew her location she went to the bathroom at the subway station he followed her and strangled her to death, very sad what happened to the young women. I really hope JYP takes action against this guy because he's a threat and we don't know what he's planning to do with nayeon.
This absolutely needs to be shown to JYP and the Korean authorities especially the part about Christina Grimmie and how he feels like at this point Nayeon owes him.
At the beginning I was thinking :"ok maybe Nayeon should just go public and reject him and say she's not in love with anyone esp not Josh" but yeah no this dude will absolutely go nuclear. He just needs to get banned from Korea at least.
I don’t know how you stayed so calm & level headed during this I would’ve lost my patience so fast. I really give you props for being willing to listen to him & “give him a chance” / find some humanity/common ground. He proved through this video that he has no interest in rational thoughts or actions. I pray Nayeon stays safe & I pray he finds something else in life to fixate on like his career or something like that.
it's always so funny when men say 'woman are emotional" and then they get so so angry.... anger is a emotion and man are angry like 24/7 lol
Yup! Who starts wars? Men!
@@DemonaLlama lmaooo how old are you?
Factssss
yeah emotions are for both genders lol
"you are a girl. you often go by how you feel. you do not have the mental capacity to think logically."
im guessing his version of thinking logically is creepily obsessing over someone who has a restraining order against him and who will literally never look his direction. im sure nayeon doesnt want someone who'd probably verbally, mentally, and probably physically abuse her. he's a creep. and based on what he said about christina, he's 100% the type of person to murder someone and claim it was the real victims fault. get this man help.
Stay safe evangelina !
thanks for always giving us AMAZING content, you really exceeded our expectations this time but never do this kind of risky things again. we love you.