I am a Metal/HC musician starting a new YT channel soon (in the new house building the studio now) I LOVE that you brought back the Foxx Tone Machine in my favorite color too! I am actually a pedal nerd myself and the channel will focus on mostly pedals for Metal and heavier genres. From NWOBHM to Stoner Doom I am covering a lot of ground. Love the Warm audio studio gear too😅
The Foxy Tone Box is a remake of the old Foxx Tone Machine and it will really shine on a cleaner amp and when using a single coil jn the neck and playing above the 12th fret. Until my first time experiencing what happens when you combine all that I always thought when I was hearing it in songs and music that the amps were just so loud that the notes being played were “morphing” or “fading into” feedback. I build alot of pedals and even though they are not really for chunky chugs, I have developed a new but deep love for octave fuzzes! Definitely totally different and not to be confused with the pitch shifter types.
I bought the Foxy Tone box because we used an old FOXX Tone machine in the studio years ago - it's great for doubling single note riffs, especially if you transpose them an octave higher than the part you're doubling. THICCCCCCCCCC.
I so appreciate your candor and perspective, Ola, particularly with your comments about fuzz boxes being an unfamiliar realm to you! Way back when my guitar boom generation and I were first slugging away, drawing inspiration from guitar heros of our time, & trying to see what we could do with the equipment available then, for a good while, apart from wah pedals & relatively new higher wattage amplifiers, the only other choice of pedal we had was fuzz boxes. So, that's simply what we got to know & learned how to work with. Overdrive/boost pedals came out later, then high gain tight response distortion pedals came out even later. All this makes sense, if one takes into account that when we each catch our wave, we tend to base our work on the latest equipment available to us.
@@KelticKabukiGirl Mine is the J Rockett Jeff Archer. Going into an old Peavey 5150 II the Jeff Archer adds aggression yet doing so with pleasing harmonic distortion, it's really heavy pleasing sound with leads and complex chords that are a lot more intelligible, yet still having that low end unleashed sounding grind.
If you run the gain and tone at noon on the Foxy Tone Box with octave on and stick to power chords or single notes, in front of high gain and EQs they can kinda sound like the mids from an HM2, as the HM2 was based on the Shinei Super Fuzz.
I noticed the Blues focused overdrive pedals I've tried bring out the twang upper mid thing that sounds like a friedman. Works great to get mix separation for a top line, lead part or cleans.
Try putting a phaser after the fuzz, you can get a cool sound out of it for specific sections of a song. you can also add reverb after it. Fuzz it's not my thing either as a main sound, but you can use it in specific parts.
"If you don't have the gain on the Klon past noon you don't even hear any of the 'magic' components engaging" -JHS talking about people who spend insane amounts of money on the Klon but only use it as a clean boost That Warm does sound pretty solid though.
I have a Klon clone that I use for my leads with my Orange Rockerverb and high gain, and I use it with the treble almost cranked for my rhythm sound with the same amp, as well as the gain 1 channel on my Kracken and I love how thick and tight it makes the gain 1 channel sound on that amp. So I am ola is using it that way here.
It shouldn't really be a surprise that the klon clone works like a tube screamer boosting a metal amp. Sure, the circuits are really different, but when you do the gain all way down, volume up thing, they do almoat the same thing: reduce low end, boost mids and hit the amp with more output. If anything, I would have backed off the volume a bit on the pedal. A TS808 is not that loud.
Nice video as always! I use a Klon clone as overdrive. Even after trying TS, Precision Drive and others, I stick to it. It's a DIY clone (bought the PCB at Fuzzdog's Pedal Parts UK), modded it in a 4-knob version (separate gain and blend knobs). It's the only OD that does not affect the amp's tone stack like regular TS-based ODs would do. In the case of my EVH 50W Stealth, this pedal sounded the best to my liking. Klon can do metal!!!!
that is because the evh is heavily filtered. In a good way but super heavy filtering. NO bass after the first gain stage. In essence it mimics the ts boosting internally. Then it has a scoop as fuck slope resistor on the tone stack vs marshalls etc. In essence it is like you are pushing it to cock wah territory with boosting it with a mid heavy pedal. That is the amp's fault or character or difference with something like a soldano or even mesa. It is like they tried to boost from the inside or similar to a plexi bright channel only character. To be honest it kind of neuters it but at the same time most metalheads (and I am one of them) will like it and also like that it doesn't need a boost. It should and does work with a klon or even a timmy a boss od not sd-1 or just an eq boost up front.
I do use a tumnus deluxe to boost the clean channel of my 5150 into overdive, but I also give a good amount of pedal-gain to it. It turns it into the an AA-Grade thrash-metal-machine. Dry and wet at the same time, and tighter than everything I have played so far. Does not work with heavier downtuning tho.
I know this is random but would love to see a tone break down for as palaces burn lamb of god or any bolt thrower, I don’t know if you do those types of videos anymore but I always loved them!
@@rockmovieswithtyler1989 Oh yeah, no doubt. He's got all the gear needed, but the tone is in the fingers. Amplitude has a Dimebag Tone Pack that's essentially 99% accurate to his tone.
sorry guys but with a vaslty overdriven distorted amp what is th point of using that OD? I have the CENTAVO and the FOXY TONE FUZZ with A HIWATT tube head and yes there you can hear the excellent quality of both pedals / To me the heavy metal fans must have the BOSS MT2 WAZA which is a metal pedal
I do use a tumnus deluxe to boost the clean channel of my 5150 into overdive, but I also give a good amount of pedal-gain to it. It turns it into the an AA-Grade thrash-metal-machine. Dry and wet at the same time, and tighter than everything I have played so far. Does not work with heavier downtuning tho.
@@johannalvarsson9299 Oh no no. I don't think so. But the Tumnus deluxe has the Bass mid treble controls and that extra gain. So that's why it works well in front of a clean amp.
And this is why fuzz pedals (i.e. Foxy Tone Box) are only strictly for stoner rock/doom metal due to it filthy sound. Trying to make modern metal chugs out of a fuzzy sound doesn't always work. Because if you want a good, thrashy chug, distortion is the only option.
There are others like the “Tentacle” by “Earthquaker Devices” which is a modded “Dan Armstrong Green Ringer” which sound like they don’t work on their own but they are basically used like you would a solo boost to achieve that unique “morphing into feedback” sound. A good example would be the solo parts from “blue on black” by Kenny Wayne Shepherd or Purple Haze by Jimi Hendrix. I hope Ola at least gives them another experiment or 2! The single coil neck pickup should also have the best results if it is a normal single coil and not a mini bucker or stacked noiseless! Coil split humbuckers in the neck also work.
Ok so you saved me $200US by not getting the Klon Clone. I already have a TS9 TS808 Tube Screamers as well as EVH5150 OverDrive. SO I think I can spend my money on something better for purpose right now. I have plenty of dust collectors already.
You are running too much gain on the amp for the fuzz. Crunch channel is good but you need to drop the gain a bit. I ran an MXR Super Badass Variac Fuzz into the Crunch channel of my JSX and set the gain around 3. I have recently removed it from the board as I am not playing in a stoner band anymore.
Way I see it, the klon doesn't really add to the sound of an amplifier, it just gives it more greatness of what's already there.. a mk. 2 for example will be given more of the mark 2 experience, a plexi will be given more of the Plexi experience, ETC.
Plugging into high gain amps is a crappy way to review their real voice characteristics. You need a great clean amp to see what the are really like. Try a big keyboard combo like peavy duece
That was pretty useless video. The Klon with gain at zero is just a volume boost. The thing happens when the gain is raised. Also the amp was way overdistorted to begin with to use any sort of fuzz in front. You could tweak a bit and try to be a bit less adhd.
It's not just a volume boost, it also filters the signal before the amp which makes the amp sound tighter. Every OD have different filters so they can sound different even with gain at 0.
@@bitdevice Sorry, You're wrong. It doesn't. You're describing a Tube screamer. Klon is a different circuit and has different characteristics. Klon applies the filtering as you raise the gain level. The gain knob is a dual purpose knob. If the gain is at zero, it doesn't filter anything. I think Josh from JHS explained that the filtering starts to kick in when the gain is in 9 o'clock.
@@einjarjar Right, I never use the gain knob on any OD. The worst tone I know is a clean amp with transistor gain mixed in from an OD. If you have a good tube amp like in this video you only need to push the amp for it to shine, you don't want to mix in transistor gain as well.
I am a Metal Musician actually playing a bit longer than Ola and actually VERY familiar with fuzz and other weird effects that you CAN use in Metal. My new RUclips channel will be a focus on Pedals mostly for Metalheads and heavier Genres
I think that people make a bigger deal out of the Klon thing than ever. It's not like any person could pick out that tone in a mix. Other pedals like this Warm Audio pedal get so close that nobody could tell the difference.
Appreciate you giving these a spin, Ola! Hope the Foxy grows on you. 😉
I am a Metal/HC musician starting a new YT channel soon (in the new house building the studio now) I LOVE that you brought back the Foxx Tone Machine in my favorite color too! I am actually a pedal nerd myself and the channel will focus on mostly pedals for Metal and heavier genres. From NWOBHM to Stoner Doom I am covering a lot of ground. Love the Warm audio studio gear too😅
The Foxy Tone Box is a remake of the old Foxx Tone Machine and it will really shine on a cleaner amp and when using a single coil jn the neck and playing above the 12th fret. Until my first time experiencing what happens when you combine all that I always thought when I was hearing it in songs and music that the amps were just so loud that the notes being played were “morphing” or “fading into” feedback. I build alot of pedals and even though they are not really for chunky chugs, I have developed a new but deep love for octave fuzzes! Definitely totally different and not to be confused with the pitch shifter types.
thanks, it does sound terrible through his amp.
I bought the Foxy Tone box because we used an old FOXX Tone machine in the studio years ago - it's great for doubling single note riffs, especially if you transpose them an octave higher than the part you're doubling. THICCCCCCCCCC.
I work at warm! Thanks for doing this OLA!
I so appreciate your candor and perspective, Ola, particularly with your comments about fuzz boxes being an unfamiliar realm to you! Way back when my guitar boom generation and I were first slugging away, drawing inspiration from guitar heros of our time, & trying to see what we could do with the equipment available then, for a good while, apart from wah pedals & relatively new higher wattage amplifiers, the only other choice of pedal we had was fuzz boxes. So, that's simply what we got to know & learned how to work with. Overdrive/boost pedals came out later, then high gain tight response distortion pedals came out even later. All this makes sense, if one takes into account that when we each catch our wave, we tend to base our work on the latest equipment available to us.
I have the Foxy Tone Box, I use mine in front of a Big Muff and it gives me the best doom/sludge tone I've ever had
Watching Ola play the same riff over and over again for 5 min each video is one of my personal blisses.
Maybe try the Foxy pedal without the other pedal in front of it. Sometimes fuzzes work better without a buffer before them.
been using my centaur clone as my main metal overdrive for a while, and it's badass.
I have the Idiot Box Effects Han Taun Klon Centaur clone and it kinda adds a bit of tubish sizzle and warmth to SS amps for sure
@@KelticKabukiGirl Mine is the J Rockett Jeff Archer. Going into an old Peavey 5150 II the Jeff Archer adds aggression yet doing so with pleasing harmonic distortion, it's really heavy pleasing sound with leads and complex chords that are a lot more intelligible, yet still having that low end unleashed sounding grind.
If you run the gain and tone at noon on the Foxy Tone Box with octave on and stick to power chords or single notes, in front of high gain and EQs they can kinda sound like the mids from an HM2, as the HM2 was based on the Shinei Super Fuzz.
That X is so sick in green. Is it just me or does Revolution is my name sounds like a muse song with the octave sustainer turned on
I noticed the Blues focused overdrive pedals I've tried bring out the twang upper mid thing that sounds like a friedman. Works great to get mix separation for a top line, lead part or cleans.
You're supposed to plug directly into the fuzz, then run any other pedals afterward.
Try putting a phaser after the fuzz, you can get a cool sound out of it for specific sections of a song. you can also add reverb after it.
Fuzz it's not my thing either as a main sound, but you can use it in specific parts.
It's good to have a drive and eq between the fuzz and amp if running on high gain, better on a clean channel
The foxy box can definitely do metal if you play some stoner doom with it.
This is TRUTH!
"If you don't have the gain on the Klon past noon you don't even hear any of the 'magic' components engaging"
-JHS talking about people who spend insane amounts of money on the Klon but only use it as a clean boost
That Warm does sound pretty solid though.
Despite an obvious bias, that Foxy box is sick
Awesome Pedal of Doom like sounds very fuzzy and dark. I would give it a (7 or) 8 out of 10 very cool pedal harmonics chunky and heavy as $$$
Hey I have the foxy tone box. Its really good! sounds crazy with a chorus and a wah lol makes me think of like an alien invasion movie or something
I’d love to see you do a Pigtronix Maxon 808 review. I know it’s old, but Ola’s reviews are spot on.
I have a Klon clone that I use for my leads with my Orange Rockerverb and high gain, and I use it with the treble almost cranked for my rhythm sound with the same amp, as well as the gain 1 channel on my Kracken and I love how thick and tight it makes the gain 1 channel sound on that amp. So I am ola is using it that way here.
I should send you my pisdyauwat pedal .. that thing is so frickin brutal
Damn right
It shouldn't really be a surprise that the klon clone works like a tube screamer boosting a metal amp. Sure, the circuits are really different, but when you do the gain all way down, volume up thing, they do almoat the same thing: reduce low end, boost mids and hit the amp with more output. If anything, I would have backed off the volume a bit on the pedal. A TS808 is not that loud.
I think even a toaster connected through the Mesa Boogie Badlander will sound great too… anything will chug with this absolute beast…🤤🤤
Nice video as always! I use a Klon clone as overdrive. Even after trying TS, Precision Drive and others, I stick to it. It's a DIY clone (bought the PCB at Fuzzdog's Pedal Parts UK), modded it in a 4-knob version (separate gain and blend knobs). It's the only OD that does not affect the amp's tone stack like regular TS-based ODs would do. In the case of my EVH 50W Stealth, this pedal sounded the best to my liking. Klon can do metal!!!!
that is because the evh is heavily filtered. In a good way but super heavy filtering. NO bass after the first gain stage. In essence it mimics the ts boosting internally. Then it has a scoop as fuck slope resistor on the tone stack vs marshalls etc. In essence it is like you are pushing it to cock wah territory with boosting it with a mid heavy pedal. That is the amp's fault or character or difference with something like a soldano or even mesa. It is like they tried to boost from the inside or similar to a plexi bright channel only character. To be honest it kind of neuters it but at the same time most metalheads (and I am one of them) will like it and also like that it doesn't need a boost. It should and does work with a klon or even a timmy a boss od not sd-1 or just an eq boost up front.
I do use a tumnus deluxe to boost the clean channel of my 5150 into overdive, but I also give a good amount of pedal-gain to it. It turns it into the an AA-Grade thrash-metal-machine. Dry and wet at the same time, and tighter than everything I have played so far. Does not work with heavier downtuning tho.
I always chuck a clon in as an option on the cortex, it's like a spoon full of honey in my tone tea.
Ola is dancing on the vulcano of fuzz with the foxy tone box and it's real fun.
Bring me the horizon's Sempiternal record was recorded with a Klon into a Marshall, so you have heard it in a metal context already!
I know this is random but would love to see a tone break down for as palaces burn lamb of god or any bolt thrower, I don’t know if you do those types of videos anymore but I always loved them!
The Danelectro French Toast is the same circuit as the Foxy Tone.
1:17 did he say erectifier?! Lmfao
Need to turn up the gain on klons to get more mid bite.
Hi Ole, what guitar pedal-distortion/overdrive would you recommend for the Black Sabbath-Tony Iommi sound?Thank you Jakub
@@jakubsach8431 treble booster
You gotta pull out your Billy Corgan when hitting the front end of your already metal amp with a fuzz....
The feedback when the fuzz was started sounded like "Ten Ton Hammer" By Machine Head. 🤣
A K circuit will tighten up a metal tone nicely 🎛
Do a Will it Chug with an Ohms pedals "Stolen Horse" I think you'll really like it.
I love the look of the foxy pedal but I’ve never tried one because I play metal lol
OLA PLEASE RESPOND! Can the MXR Dime pedal and the EQ From Hell together reach the coveted Dimebag Tone? Curious for budgeting reasons!
Somewhat, but nowhere near. You'd need the same pickups on the guitar and the same amp and cab setup
@@l04d83 I'm sure Ola could with what he has for sure!
@@rockmovieswithtyler1989 Oh yeah, no doubt. He's got all the gear needed, but the tone is in the fingers. Amplitude has a Dimebag Tone Pack that's essentially 99% accurate to his tone.
Weird you say the klon is softer than tube screamer. The TS is soft clipping and the Klon is hard clipping.
Soft like warm and round
"As a normal metal human being with an overdrive you start by dialing up the output. AT MAX"
That's a fact. An undeniable one.
Nice, green guitar. You can have any colour or pattern on it
The Tone Box is really interesting - not metal, per se, but interesting for sure!
sorry guys but with a vaslty overdriven distorted amp what is th point of using that OD? I have the CENTAVO and the FOXY TONE FUZZ with A HIWATT tube head and yes there you can hear the excellent quality of both pedals / To me the heavy metal fans must have the BOSS MT2 WAZA which is a metal pedal
You have to use the Klon on a clean channel.
It has way too much mid range and fatness to work as a crunch booster.
I do use a tumnus deluxe to boost the clean channel of my 5150 into overdive, but I also give a good amount of pedal-gain to it. It turns it into the an AA-Grade thrash-metal-machine. Dry and wet at the same time, and tighter than everything I have played so far. Does not work with heavier downtuning tho.
@@johannalvarsson9299 The Tumnus deluxe is a different beast. It does play pretty tight for sure.
@@endezeichengrimm Thanks good to know. Is the original circuit that much slower in the bass?
@@johannalvarsson9299 Oh no no. I don't think so. But the Tumnus deluxe has the Bass mid treble controls and that extra gain.
So that's why it works well in front of a clean amp.
Damn I love that guitar
would love to hear leads played on this with sustainiac pickups
I think it would have better to see you try to make it chug on the clean channel first. Maybe just me
Any plans on making a X style bass?
Hola Ola! I prefer the classic TS!😅
"Sounds like a good overdrive ya know"
How about left handed reverse of that lime green x model.
Digitech x series tone driver demo please and thank you 🙏
Did you tríed does it doom pedals? Its a great brand that makes fuzzes for doom metal !!!!!!
That Foxy sounds like a parking lot full of dinosaur shit. I’ll take it!
Cool guitar! What model is that?
1:03 type X
Do one with hollow body chugging
the octaver shit sounds like satriani at times, cool
The green guitar is proof Ola didn't use any video editing FX to fool us!
And this is why fuzz pedals (i.e. Foxy Tone Box) are only strictly for stoner rock/doom metal due to it filthy sound. Trying to make modern metal chugs out of a fuzzy sound doesn't always work. Because if you want a good, thrashy chug, distortion is the only option.
There are others like the “Tentacle” by “Earthquaker Devices” which is a modded “Dan Armstrong Green Ringer” which sound like they don’t work on their own but they are basically used like you would a solo boost to achieve that unique “morphing into feedback” sound. A good example would be the solo parts from “blue on black” by Kenny Wayne Shepherd or Purple Haze by Jimi Hendrix. I hope Ola at least gives them another experiment or 2! The single coil neck pickup should also have the best results if it is a normal single coil and not a mini bucker or stacked noiseless! Coil split humbuckers in the neck also work.
Ok so you saved me $200US by not getting the Klon Clone. I already have a TS9 TS808 Tube Screamers as well as EVH5150 OverDrive. SO I think I can spend my money on something better for purpose right now. I have plenty of dust collectors already.
Regarding the foxy tone box... Well... You don't know how to Doom Metal, thats why you don't know what to do with it.
Does the Klone band uses clone of the Klon ? 🧐
Nice crunch ola hahaha
You are running too much gain on the amp for the fuzz. Crunch channel is good but you need to drop the gain a bit. I ran an MXR Super Badass Variac Fuzz into the Crunch channel of my JSX and set the gain around 3. I have recently removed it from the board as I am not playing in a stoner band anymore.
Where's the new Haunted album?
The fuzz sounded really bad with the badlander IMO. Could be nice with some other amp and guitar
Just got to run it into a more of a breakup tone rather than full-on distortion
That fuzz would sound killing on bass.
that x is so nice
Attack of the Clone of the Klons
🤘😈🤘🔥🔥🔥
Dude fuzz into a clean amp and no chuggin. I know its hard.
Klon clone sounds cool
💯🎸🎸🤘🤘🤘
Way I see it, the klon doesn't really add to the sound of an amplifier, it just gives it more greatness of what's already there.. a mk. 2 for example will be given more of the mark 2 experience, a plexi will be given more of the Plexi experience, ETC.
Ola stole Bradley Hall's new guitar :v
i approve
Plugging into high gain amps is a crappy way to review their real voice characteristics. You need a great clean amp to see what the are really like. Try a big keyboard combo like peavy duece
Did you mean? "Will it chug metal"?
FTB
That's made for doom. Electric Wizard style riffs.
That was pretty useless video. The Klon with gain at zero is just a volume boost. The thing happens when the gain is raised. Also the amp was way overdistorted to begin with to use any sort of fuzz in front.
You could tweak a bit and try to be a bit less adhd.
It's not just a volume boost, it also filters the signal before the amp which makes the amp sound tighter. Every OD have different filters so they can sound different even with gain at 0.
@@bitdevice Sorry, You're wrong. It doesn't. You're describing a Tube screamer. Klon is a different circuit and has different characteristics. Klon applies the filtering as you raise the gain level. The gain knob is a dual purpose knob. If the gain is at zero, it doesn't filter anything. I think Josh from JHS explained that the filtering starts to kick in when the gain is in 9 o'clock.
@@einjarjar Right, I never use the gain knob on any OD. The worst tone I know is a clean amp with transistor gain mixed in from an OD. If you have a good tube amp like in this video you only need to push the amp for it to shine, you don't want to mix in transistor gain as well.
Still no left handed Type-X...
Still..
Anyone else get confused by the discord notification sound at 6:37?
All gain, no mids.
If you don’t know what to do with these pedals you can give em to me, I will appreciate
Cheers from France 🇫🇷
OK- with the Badlander every pedal sounds metal. No?
Grandpas need wormness
I am a Metal Musician actually playing a bit longer than Ola and actually VERY familiar with fuzz and other weird effects that you CAN use in Metal. My new RUclips channel will be a focus on Pedals mostly for Metalheads and heavier Genres
Ola plays Hendrix? hahah xd
I think that people make a bigger deal out of the Klon thing than ever. It's not like any person could pick out that tone in a mix. Other pedals like this Warm Audio pedal get so close that nobody could tell the difference.
And every pedal aficionado with boutique amps watching this is triggered... and I'm here for it.
Clone centar
at least the fuzzzy ffff up your tone
As a no metal player, I don´t what exactly what you are listening to with an OD pedal. HAHA.
Ur a clone of a Klon
My new saying.\m/
I agree we are not the audience for fuzz pedals.
Try to stack both with overdrive AT thé end. It could be better even if fuzz must be reduced to do a metal sound. Some doomer use fuzz.
No chance
I have a foxy tone box..
The Klon almost gave it a single coil tone it seems like. Interesting....