Krammer!!Love your enthusiasm,,i have built 12 bows, bought as many. Two of my brand name bows,one 60# the other 55#,,, the same arrow,, the same speed!! The faster one has the thinner profile limbs,, like you said,, less mass. Im as intrigued as you are. Keep up the Awesome work my friend. Love your vids👍👍
I believe Kramer and the Shatterproof crew are underrated. The bow builds and information on this channel is great and very useful. The bows are gorgeous. The vids, ambiance, and music is unique. Keep it up fellas!
Thank you tons for watching we have so much cool stuff coming soon! You guys are the best 😀 Find the current bow auction here www.shatterproofarchery.com/products/exclusive
I just placed an order for a custom string and stringer. Had an online chat that was punctual and helped me with what I would need. Happy to support quality, passionate, American based companies that got me into Archery! I can’t wait! Thanks Shatterproof!
I would love to see you take one of those blanks and make it using more basic tools. Like what would a typical Joe Schmo have in the garage or shed. So no belt/drum sander but yes orbital hand held sander. That kind of thing. How few and how basic of tools can you use to get that bow blank to a working bow. That would also be a great test/promotion of the diy bow blank concept.
@@kramerammonsarchery Thank you so much for the comment I truly appreciate. Kramer just remember to keep your eyes on Christ and let him control your life and your business. God bless my good friend.
Beautiful video Kramer. My buddy told me you are located in the springs, thats awesome if its true. I live in Castle rock. New to archery thinking about making my own bow. Wish me luck 🤞
I would love one of youre bows, at moment my bow is a takedown bow, im wondering what the difference is between them and ones ive seen you make. But one day hopefully not too long you may get an order from a guy from uk. I absolutely love youre channel and what you do. Thankyou so much for sharing the knowledge and just the content is so good, you seem a really nice guy, one that i would trust buying a bow from..
I have a odd bow build request! Can you do your best to make a fusion between the more eastern recurve composite and a european style longbow? Would that just take the shape of a really long recurve? A longbow with composite materials? I dont know! But it seems neat inside my mind.
I really enjoy your content and the way you break things down. I have a bow that I built from scratch during Covid. If I sent it to you would you make a video overview? I’d like to have some input on what you like/dislike. Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
So what is the date for this auction? Am I to late or is it soon. For a reference point, I have a Bear Montana at 45lbs and with a 440 gr arrow I shoot at 152fps, so your 41lbs at 177fps is really spectacular. Way to go guys! I love the slight angle in the grip to help open up the sight window too.
Have you looked into opa bows? They have an interesting concept that I had thought of before I found them and wondered why nobody else has eliminated the deflex
Hey Paul this is really interesting and perfect timing. Our mechanical engineer was talking to me about testing this out. It makes a ton of sense to design a bow this way when the goal is speed! We are for sure interested in seeing what we can come up with! Thanks for watching!
Hey there, I am about to attempt my first bow with some pin oak I got hold of. Just wondering since it's going to be a self bow whether it's ok to have the back of the tips a little wider rather than the front to work as tip overlies as I want to use the flat face of the log to make the bow and would rather not glue anything onto the back of the bow at all.
Adding mass to the part that has to move the most is going to slow you down. If you start wider at the riser you can preserve the higher draw weight, introduce more taper, and have a faster bow that still has good manners when you loose. Then if you want to get fun… Introduce very narrow tips and reverse tiller them, make them thicker front to back, so they are rigid. Then you preserve string angle, reducing stack, so you can make the overall length the bow shorter. Shorter limbs, less mass, more speed…
Well said!!! I would only add that in this scenario you have to be careful your portions of the limbs traveling a great distance are not under too much stress.
recently i started a project in which i wanna make my own bow and arrows, i would love if mine looks in the end like yourse :D i saw several vids how they glue stuff together but not realy know what they use , i woudl love a guide how to make one :)
Correct me if I'm wrong , but judging by this video it looks like you could increase your production rateand lower costs of production, like 80 % more effective by using a lot less sanders and grinders instead use saws, planers and knifes. or is there a reason for it?
Ive been bingeing these tutorials like crazy lately and i have a few questions. So i have been wanting to get back into archery but this time i want to put my carpentry skills to work and build my own. the problem is i prefer really light draw weights like around 20 pounds or less. is it possible to make a wooden self bow with that light of a draw weight? so many tutorials have bows with crazy draw weights and im not sure where to start. any advice would be amazing. thanks for the amazing content!!!
have u seen the snake bow by arc rolan in France? all plastic shooting a max of 26 lb down through 20 and into 18 on the sixty inch adult version. being plastic they're considered virtually unbreakable particularly with putting the limbs into twist when stringing and de stringing without using a stringer. so maybe the best bow for learning on and even then one you'll likely go back to later on when you're shooting heavier or simply more expensive bows. under 45 bucks.
Good question! Finding the optimal width and taper for each bow shape. On this bow a continues taper from 1.5" to 3/4" dramatically improves the performance.
I really like the aesthetic of narrow bow limbs. What would happen if I got some very heavy draw weight laminated recurve limbs, and cut them narrower to achieve the desired draw weight with narrower limbs?
At around age 16 I had a 45# Ben Pearson Spoiler I also had a 40# Sierra bow the Sierra bow was far superior. The Spoiler had wider limbs and was slower. That was around 1976.
I use fiberglass mostly. Carbon is good for speed but not for comfort. I do have some carbon in the shop i want to use to try and make a really fast bow someday! Thanks for watching!
I have a 85#@31inches monarq korean bows with 4.5 gpp it goes like 280 fps which is insane for a trad bow its mostly about design example OTTOMAN FLIGHT BOWS
How many thousands tapers do you use in your limbs? Try grinding your tips down to 5/8 “ . Have you tried putting in a tip wedge for extra speed. Nice bow tho
Unless you are going for distance, a bow used in combat in primitive society or for small game does not need to be heavy in terms of poundage. A quicker bow would be more useful. After a 40-45 lb bow will very easily put an arrow through a human body or take small game like birds, shoats, small pigs, hares, or rabbits.
Several other things you can do to make it faster and smoother , go to 1/2 inch tips, reduce tip overlay thickness and add more taper to the lams.. If you want even more speed, make the press so the tips are as forward as the back of the bow , it will get more twitchy then tho..
The length of draw and length of arrow are determined by the length of you arms and chest. So your bow dose not need grate length if arrow is only 27 inches long. Probably no benefit to extra length. Poundage is by your strength.
I mean, 60 m/s is the minimum level for a "light" arrow. The bow should be able to withstand shooting 17 gram arrows without kickback or breakage. This bow will produce 63-65 m/s and it is a regular bow with fiberglass, still without carbon.
You're gonna set up a radar for speed and a scale to measure draw weight, but fire by hand and then comment on an average speed difference that falls at around a quarter of your result variability like it's a conclusion? Lmao. Nice music though.
I have a question for you. I bought a custom made bow second hand. It's a takedown bow. The limbs are 70lbs. I have a really hard time drawing that sucker. The limbs are not laminated on either side however the front or back of the limbs have a special knock at the ends. What is the best way to tiller the limbs down to about 55lbs? I was thinking of sanding the belly.
Krammer!!Love your enthusiasm,,i have built 12 bows, bought as many.
Two of my brand name bows,one 60# the other 55#,,, the same arrow,, the same speed!!
The faster one has the thinner profile limbs,, like you said,, less mass.
Im as intrigued as you are.
Keep up the Awesome work my friend.
Love your vids👍👍
WOW - Thanks Ron! This means a lot to me!
I'd love to see Shatterproof start to make take down bows. I don't think I'm the only one.
I agree. How about a lesser made 2 part takedown of the bones Shatterproof Archery currently makes?
ILF is joy
Me too
@@anotheryoutuber_ but not on trad bows...
@@ziuwaz1588 just depends on your definition of traditional.
I believe Kramer and the Shatterproof crew are underrated. The bow builds and information on this channel is great and very useful. The bows are gorgeous. The vids, ambiance, and music is unique. Keep it up fellas!
Wow thank you so much this means a lot! Will do.
I fully agree! This is AWESOME content!
Thank you tons for watching we have so much cool stuff coming soon! You guys are the best 😀
Find the current bow auction here www.shatterproofarchery.com/products/exclusive
I just placed an order for a custom string and stringer.
Had an online chat that was punctual and helped me with what I would need.
Happy to support quality, passionate, American based companies that got me into Archery!
I can’t wait! Thanks Shatterproof!
Nice looking bow
Started my first bow today. You guys have been a big inspiration in that. Tyvm
I would love to see you take one of those blanks and make it using more basic tools. Like what would a typical Joe Schmo have in the garage or shed. So no belt/drum sander but yes orbital hand held sander. That kind of thing. How few and how basic of tools can you use to get that bow blank to a working bow. That would also be a great test/promotion of the diy bow blank concept.
I second this
Jigsaw and a card scraper can do everything
I have not watched for a while, your production values have gone through the roof. Well done.
Wow thank you so much this means a lot to me! Thanks for watching!
geeezzzzz that thing is pretty. awesome video!
These bows are beautiful!
Great job my friend I like it well done 👍🏼👍🏼
I’ll have one some day god bless Kramer
Hey man thank you! If anyone else sees this sig was the 23 subscriber and i am you have been here this full time thanks man! honored.
@@kramerammonsarchery Thank you so much for the comment I truly appreciate.
Kramer just remember to keep your eyes on Christ and let him control your life and your business.
God bless my good friend.
Beautiful video Kramer. My buddy told me you are located in the springs, thats awesome if its true. I live in Castle rock. New to archery thinking about making my own bow. Wish me luck 🤞
I have been following your journey for so long, and I am personally just amazed at where you have come. Keep being awesome.
I would love one of youre bows, at moment my bow is a takedown bow, im wondering what the difference is between them and ones ive seen you make. But one day hopefully not too long you may get an order from a guy from uk. I absolutely love youre channel and what you do. Thankyou so much for sharing the knowledge and just the content is so good, you seem a really nice guy, one that i would trust buying a bow from..
That’s smooth bow , glad to shoot it , you guys have really advanced traditional archery , thx
I have a odd bow build request! Can you do your best to make a fusion between the more eastern recurve composite and a european style longbow? Would that just take the shape of a really long recurve? A longbow with composite materials? I dont know! But it seems neat inside my mind.
Now that's some video production quality!
Can’t wait to build along with you!
Thanks Ty, I am looking forward to it and doing alot of work on it!
I would love to see you put together a kit and instructions!!!!!!❤
Working on it now.... Well kinda. I took a brake to respond to you but I will get back to it! Thanks for the support!
A kit bow would be sweet!
The Bones! love it!
Thanks for the cool tutorials. Very entertaining
Count me in for the build along bow kit!
this guy's nuts, but he's so passionate about what he's doing. haha love it
You did an awesome job!
I really enjoy your content and the way you break things down.
I have a bow that I built from scratch during Covid. If I sent it to you would you make a video overview? I’d like to have some input on what you like/dislike.
Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
Joseph, thanks so much for reaching out! Definitely send it to my email: contact@shatterproofarchery.com
Stunning bows I'll afford one one day😢
I've missed Y'all.
Has it been a month?
GOD and I love Y'all!
Yes it has - Thanks for watchihng!
So what is the date for this auction? Am I to late or is it soon. For a reference point, I have a Bear Montana at 45lbs and with a 440 gr arrow I shoot at 152fps, so your 41lbs at 177fps is really spectacular. Way to go guys! I love the slight angle in the grip to help open up the sight window too.
Excellent idea! I'd love to have two so my granddaughter and I could build them side by side.
That would be awesome! Thanks Scott!
Have you looked into opa bows? They have an interesting concept that I had thought of before I found them and wondered why nobody else has eliminated the deflex
Hey Paul this is really interesting and perfect timing. Our mechanical engineer was talking to me about testing this out. It makes a ton of sense to design a bow this way when the goal is speed! We are for sure interested in seeing what we can come up with! Thanks for watching!
Nice work broo..❤❤❤
would love to bring it down to Brazil. 😍😍😍
I'd like to see a diy bow kit, maybe it's 80% and you do the rest? Would be neat
Great idea thank you
@@kramerammonsarchery you're welcome sir
Hey there, I am about to attempt my first bow with some pin oak I got hold of. Just wondering since it's going to be a self bow whether it's ok to have the back of the tips a little wider rather than the front to work as tip overlies as I want to use the flat face of the log to make the bow and would rather not glue anything onto the back of the bow at all.
Awesome stuff! 👌
Work of art !=8)
What finish was used for this bow? I'm looking for something I can put on top of a tru oil finish. Would really appreciate input, thanks!
What is the draw length when testing those bows.?? That is important info that you are leaving out...
Adding mass to the part that has to move the most is going to slow you down.
If you start wider at the riser you can preserve the higher draw weight, introduce more taper, and have a faster bow that still has good manners when you loose.
Then if you want to get fun…
Introduce very narrow tips and reverse tiller them, make them thicker front to back, so they are rigid.
Then you preserve string angle, reducing stack, so you can make the overall length the bow shorter. Shorter limbs, less mass, more speed…
Well said!!! I would only add that in this scenario you have to be careful your portions of the limbs traveling a great distance are not under too much stress.
Did you try turning normal bow into Penobscot to make it stronger?
recently i started a project in which i wanna make my own bow and arrows, i would love if mine looks in the end like yourse :D
i saw several vids how they glue stuff together but not realy know what they use , i woudl love a guide how to make one :)
I'm impressed with how much you're able to get done with so little machinery. Great job guys!
Thank you, thats refreshing to hear!
Correct me if I'm wrong , but judging by this video it looks like you could increase your production rateand lower costs of production, like 80 % more effective by using a lot less sanders and grinders instead use saws, planers and knifes. or is there a reason for it?
Should take it to 1/2” tip and see what happens?
That turned out beautiful!! And I’d love to bid on it but I’ve been I. The hospital being treated for meningitis.
Thank you so much, And wow thats no fun I am wishing you the best on your recovery!
love the video, I am wondering if I sent some really special peaces of wood would you be able to use them to make a bow for me?
Depending on price I would love a kit bow. If it's under $250 I'd have to buy one.
Where did you get your medallions made? 🤔
Ive been bingeing these tutorials like crazy lately and i have a few questions. So i have been wanting to get back into archery but this time i want to put my carpentry skills to work and build my own. the problem is i prefer really light draw weights like around 20 pounds or less. is it possible to make a wooden self bow with that light of a draw weight? so many tutorials have bows with crazy draw weights and im not sure where to start. any advice would be amazing. thanks for the amazing content!!!
have u seen the snake bow by arc rolan in France?
all plastic shooting a max of 26 lb down through 20 and into 18 on the sixty inch adult version.
being plastic they're considered virtually unbreakable particularly with putting the limbs into twist when stringing and de stringing without using a stringer.
so maybe the best bow for learning on and even then one you'll likely go back to later on when you're shooting heavier or simply more expensive bows.
under 45 bucks.
@@mattredfern1339 no I haven't! that's super cool I'll def check it out. thanks!!
@@Space_Cadet_inc Thank You fella, be lucky and shoot straight fella 🏹
Interesting video, thank you. 👍🏼
#1
Thanks so much chas!
@@kramerammonsarchery... My pleasure, I enjoyed watching & learning. 👍🏼
Sorry to know Zak has gone, doesn’t seem that long since he joined you.
Pleas What is the song at minute 16 ? and thank you for your dedication for archery
So what design improvements made the performance difference?…
Good question! Finding the optimal width and taper for each bow shape. On this bow a continues taper from 1.5" to 3/4" dramatically improves the performance.
I follow your channel from outside America. Man, you look like Belgian footballer Kevin De Bruyne 😅 hasn't anyone told you this. 😅
I really like the aesthetic of narrow bow limbs. What would happen if I got some very heavy draw weight laminated recurve limbs, and cut them narrower to achieve the desired draw weight with narrower limbs?
Wow.
My man actually calling a belt sander a belt sander, not a belt grinder, how refreshing lmao
At around age 16 I had a 45# Ben Pearson Spoiler I also had a 40# Sierra bow the Sierra bow was far superior.
The Spoiler had wider limbs and was slower.
That was around 1976.
I would like to purchase one
Do you make ambidextrous bows?
Do you carbon laminate your bows?
I use fiberglass mostly. Carbon is good for speed but not for comfort. I do have some carbon in the shop i want to use to try and make a really fast bow someday! Thanks for watching!
I have a 85#@31inches monarq korean bows with 4.5 gpp it goes like 280 fps which is insane for a trad bow its mostly about design example OTTOMAN FLIGHT BOWS
How do I make a private bid?
How many thousands tapers do you use in your limbs? Try grinding your tips down to 5/8 “ . Have you tried putting in a tip wedge for extra speed. Nice bow tho
Drilling the handle and gluing a piece of metal there reduces its strength?)) Why not use laser engraving, or hot stamping...
Unless you are going for distance, a bow used in combat in primitive society or for small game does not need to be heavy in terms of poundage. A quicker bow would be more useful. After a 40-45 lb bow will very easily put an arrow through a human body or take small game like birds, shoats, small pigs, hares, or rabbits.
My question is if I had you build me this with a 27" draw, how much?
Hey Ron thanks so much for the interest! You can check out shatterproofarchery.com for info on pricing or reach out to us!
Can u deliverer to Bhutan
Several other things you can do to make it faster and smoother , go to 1/2 inch tips, reduce tip overlay thickness and add more taper to the lams.. If you want even more speed, make the press so the tips are as forward as the back of the bow , it will get more twitchy then tho..
Absolutely, I agree with this - its a dance between seed and smoothness.
Someone named Yuukah (or close to that) in Europe r making that design. Supposedly less tip twitch as the arrow leaves the string.
@@josephtreadlightly5686 Uukha are usually full carbon ILF limbs, so are pretty different. They are moderate when to comes to speed.
@@tmoanpumba5487 I was referring to the shape, not the composition.
Switching to your dagger is faster than reloading.
Lighter limb tip is always faster
Ok! Here is a serious question from a non knowledgeable person.
I am 5'4" tall. Does it matter of the length of the bow, and poundage of pull?
The length of draw and length of arrow are determined by the length of you arms and chest. So your bow dose not need grate length if arrow is only 27 inches long. Probably no benefit to extra length. Poundage is by your strength.
Did u start the bid at 10 bucks
Yes we did!
How can re shape carbon fiber 40 lbs limbs ?
Do Meridas bow
170 is not enough. Ideally this is 60-65 m/s for a 40 lb light arrow (22 grams)
I mean, 60 m/s is the minimum level for a "light" arrow. The bow should be able to withstand shooting 17 gram arrows without kickback or breakage. This bow will produce 63-65 m/s and it is a regular bow with fiberglass, still without carbon.
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The editing is getting out of hand. Netflix ought to be looking at a meat eater style show for y’all. Keep it up 👊
You're gonna set up a radar for speed and a scale to measure draw weight, but fire by hand and then comment on an average speed difference that falls at around a quarter of your result variability like it's a conclusion? Lmao. Nice music though.
$11
I'll put my 130 lb Korean bow and see what's faster lolz FYI don't beed to build a bow when someone in Korea has been doing it for 3000 years already
That would probably be a fast bow!
$100
makes kit bow
does one himself, writes a corny name and signature on it
"1 of 1"
nah fam that's just a kit bow that you made. like wot m8 lol
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I have a question for you. I bought a custom made bow second hand. It's a takedown bow. The limbs are 70lbs. I have a really hard time drawing that sucker. The limbs are not laminated on either side however the front or back of the limbs have a special knock at the ends.
What is the best way to tiller the limbs down to about 55lbs?
I was thinking of sanding the belly.
This was annoying your making bows not cartoon man stick to the process that got you here
Is this really a bow or a modern tool that looks like a bow
I would love to have this bow, but i have like a 34 inch draw. So i cant really use it🫠
Should take it to 1/2” tip and see what happens?