My first gun was also a shotgun. Dad bought me a Browning Auto5 when I was 13. Of course I still have it. Thanks Dad, Happy Father's Day. You spoiled me. Miss you everyday.
Awesome......mine was a New England , breach loading 20g , was 11, first duck hunt, that I was hunting not just learning, ducks landing in , shot at a green head, 2 dropped into the creek , 3" 4 steels, the adults never talked shit about my single shot again
As an older shooter, one of my biggest regrets is being late to appreciating shotguns They are the do it all firearm and I've grown to really appreciate them. They can be used for most things, from sport to hunting to home defense, etc.. Great video.
Discovered shotguns last year. Totally agree on the hot take. I was like "Why in the heck did I wait so long for these??" Buckshot into a thawed ham REALLY drives home how much damage these things can do to you.
@@brandonbowerstx Yes sir, you are right. If I really had to take along one firearm on a survival type of situation it would probably be a 12 gauge pump action shotgun with a variety of different shot shells. 👍
I have one of the earlier 590's in marinecote. Had it for many years and love it. Recently picked up a Black Aces Tactical S Max 12 gauge semiautomatic. It's a 7 shot. I've put around 300 rounds through it so far with no issues at all.
@@KonaLife I am diverting all funds to buying stripped AR-15 lowers...did this in the 90s when I was 21 right when the last assault weapons ban went into effect...funded lots of projects into 2004.
@@RoyGIndigo sounds like you don't know what live shells do when shot. physics still apply, and youll have more to worry about anyway...you just got shot...
“A sling’s like a high school diploma, I don’t care where it’s from I just want you to have one and I’m pretty sure most of you don’t.” Hey at least I got my GED!
My sister in law was big mad when she realized I was making as much and more than her with her as a teacher with a masters and me as at the time a federal police officer. Now that I’m back in oil field it’s far north of triple than her. She’s definitely not happy.
@@1301407gl People that join the teaching profession to make corporate salaries or heavy labor hourly rates are always going to be disappointed. They get summers off and pensions though...so they don't sweat or work too hard mostly.
Been using esstac 7 rd cards on my 870 for years. Also have a hitechcustom chest rig. Completely stolen fro the OSOG cop rig but 7 rd cards instead of 6 rd cards, plus the owner isn’t a narcissistic dick. Also have an HSGI so chest rig that holds 6 7rd esstac cards in HSGI double tacos. Works great for quail and pheasant season. :-).
I had plans for a 1301 before your video, but it confirmed my choice to get one, as well as some ideas on modifications. I followed some, modified some, and did some you did not. First off, I did research on the shell cards and concluded that 1) ESSTAC was a good product and 2), the 6 shell card was better than the 7 card. In my opinion, it fits better on the receiver and especially the stock. Even a 6 rd card can be tricky on the stock as just a little too far forward and it will impact the inside of the right wrist. A 7 rd card on the is in my opinion, too long, but it doesn't really interfere with either hand. But I didn't want to have different sized cards. The 6 rd card will also fit in an AR15 mag pouch and can be pulled out by the loop. I also installed a Nordic magazine tube extension. I opted to do more work and I installed a QD socket mount in the left side of the buttstock rather than use the sling mount on the underside. Personal choice, it seemed to work well for you. I have to say that I've watched this vid twice and your prior 1301 vid more times than I can count. Paying attention to what worked, what didn't, what was different as you progressed through the course, how you reloaded, how others reloaded, etc. In both vids, good job. You helped me a lot.
@@schrodingersgat4344 Probably why I like them, then (AKs, that is). My first car was a used Merkur XR4ti. Nice car, but Oh. My. God. the maintenance it demanded just to keep kind of running. Maybe not piss poor taste, but a piss poor choice right out of college. Experience is something you get right after you need it.
James, watching this with my daughter as we are getting our shotguns set up for Thunder Ranch. The Shotgun Cards are freaking awesome! Going to order a couple dozen, thank you for saving us $$ on a hard side saddle.
A couple dozen!?!?! Are you expecting a xenomorph infestation in your area? If not you should be!!! I keep 2 of those 6 shot shell cards in each of the 30rd AR mag pouches on my shotgun specific tactical vest. 5 pockets, 12 rounds per pocket- 60rds plus what's in the gun. Also, fun fact, 12 deep 12 gauge shotshells give significant ballistic protection vs handgun and PCC threats.
I prefer a 4-shell side saddle just for slug changeovers. I do all of my reloading from a belt mounted shell holder. To me it’s less weight on the gun, and the reloads tend to be smoother. Great content as always!
PSA: Do NOT buy Blue Force Gear slings from Amazon. There's a very good chance they will be inferior counterfeits. www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/03/19/counterfeit-blue-force-gear-sling-2/
@@mohawkdriver4155 I was correcting an earlier typo. I'll delete that comment now, it's not relevant although I must say over the last couple of years I've been sceptical about the origin of the reviews on Amazon ...
Love your presentations. (1) You speak in complete sentences (subject + verb + object.) (2) You do not lard up your speech wiuth hundreds of those ignorant non-word "UH" sounds. Your presentations are winners, all the way around. Congrats. On top of it all, you are a master of your subject matter.
My first shotgun was a Keltec KSG and I have to agree the shot cards are awesome they are sturdy and you have an insane amount of versatility with shell loadout
Agree with you one hundred percent on the side saddle/shotgun card issue, I arrived at the same conclusion a couple years back after the sixty dollar side saddle I bought for my 870 didn't properly fit and contributed to cycling issues with the pump. Wound up buying a bunch of inexpensive shotgun cards on Amazon and it's part of my shotgun setup now. Just wish I'd learned this sooner and saved me some cash on that useless side saddle. Kickass video, very informative and as always, entertaining : )
Picked up a 1301 LE enhanced. Love it. Eats everything except those mini shells. Last scatter gun I will buy. Already 700 plus rounds through it. Worth every single last penny.
Keep the Thunder Ranch content collabs coming, James!! These are fantastic and Clint Smith is simply legendary. You're pretty so-so yourself. Thanks, man! Clint Smith "They're not that expensive, so buy 100 of them and quit being a bitch." LOVE IT!!
Even a reasonable person can afford a dozen cards, a chest rig or warbelt ...and enough shells to fill them. Finding the shells might still be problematic.
Left handed shooter here. I own and tried the exact Esstac setup you have except on a Remington shotgun. Shoot that shotgun with your support side. Change shoulders and shoot left handed. Go to 6:58 in the video and look at that lower aft corner of the Esstac card. It will dig a huge channel in your left hand when you pull the trigger provided you can even grip the gun to shoot it without obstruction. It won't be fun even with gloves and you can still get a nasty groove dug into your hand. I've had extensive training where Clint Smith worked before he founded Thunder Ranch and find those shot cards to not hold the rounds nor stay where "slapped" on the Velcro during hard and/or rapid use. Shoot under a barricade having switched to your left side to get low enough and see what happens to those rounds and that card when they drag the ground under recoil. Then there is the "slapping" cards onto the receiver. Rip the empty off and slap on a new one as fast as you can under stress. It won't be straight. It might be so crooked that you might even obstruct your trigger finger assuming you are shooting right handed. Maybe it's too far forward or too far aft and causes other problems. I believe the best application for those cards is simply to carry more ammo in an orderly package that you can stick to a Velcro patch on the exterior of your kit and load from there. Esstac card in a pouch, remove from pouch, stick to kit, load from the card. The card is not on the gun. These are non-workable for a left handed shooter. Shoot support side with one of these cards on the gun and you'll quickly agree.
Just got my hands on the Benelli M4 so this vid is perfectly timed for me. Falling in love with my Benelli in ways I never thought I would cause I’ve never been into shotguns
I have been a Remington shooter for 40 years. Started with the 1100 then moved into the 870/18.5” with light n side saddle. Have been hankering for something lighter and came across James Thunder Ranch video of this 1301. I was actually looking for the M4 but when I saw this hot rod of shotguns I fell in love with it. Well as everyone knows guns are pricey and in limited supply this year 2021. As God favors His own I was talking with my neighbor shortly after beginning my search for the 1301T ODG, he said I just saw one yesterday (Saturday) at one of our local shops in ODG. “For real?”, “Yes”. Call the local gun shop on Tuesday putting the exact ODG 1301 that I was looking for on hold. Picked it up on Saturday one week after hearing it was in town. Have fired some boxes through it and just in love with it. My son has the M4 so we enjoyed running these guns side by side. The 1301 is a great purchase. Love the Blue Force sling have them on AR platforms, but I am also looking into the Warrior Poet Bungee sling as well. Will be adding the 7 cards to gun as backup ammo carriers. BTW one of my son-in law now has my 870/18.5” he loves it just as much as I do, it was hard to part with it but this weight loss was my deciding factor, just love the 6.75# as out of the box weight. Understanding it will get heavier as items attach themselves but will still be lighter in the end. Love the content James and keep the updates coming.
Excellent shotgun use content! It is so rare to see, for lack of a better way to say it, tips and tricks of the tactical shotgun. Now that you have it, what do you do with it? How do you set it up? How do you run it? How do you maximize it's strong points? How do you overcome the weaker ones? Great start! More, much more, pls?
Just got my 590 recently and came to this video for card setup. Thank you James and TFB for this outreach and filling in their gray area! Love esstac, they have great products, I have a few types of their ar15,10, and double stack pistol pouches. One thing I have to warn about from my personal experience with them is their customer service from the civilian consumer side is horribly nonexistent. I had an issue with the wrong pouch they sent me and I could not get ahold of them at all. So there are no returns if something goes wrong, just make sure you are absolutely sure of your purchase before purchasing from them.
You made a believer out of me. Both of my "tactical" shotguns (a 1972 Remington 870 purchased for $75 from Brown's Home and Auto - yeah, my first - and a 1980s Benelli M1 Super 90, both in 12ga) have side saddles because thats all that was available back then. But I'll be looking into the cards now for sure!
Completely off topic; my daughter's are getting into metal detecting and I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a good starting metal detector?
Very well articulated. Just like a professional announcer. And you did not once resort to that very stuipid non-word, "UH" ! Congratulations on a job well done, Sir. It is a pleasure to listen to you speak.
I rock Velcro shotcards on my 870P using the Vang Comp VCS and never thought to add a spare card to the stock! Great idea! Now my gun will have 18 shells ready to fawk-ing RAWK BRAH!!!!
Cool. Had a friend who worked for Rem for 30 years on the line putting together ll87 and 870. There was not much he could not do with these shotguns. Thanks for the video.
Love the shotgun videos and these are helpful to me since I've gotten more into shotguns since the ammo is not as scarce as rifle ammo. A shotgun tactics video would be very appreciated. Could you also do a video of 922(r) from an attorney's perspective?
Folks that understand the strengths and limitations of a shotgun aren’t the problem children; my hate is usually directed at the ignoramuses that pull the usual BS of “you don’t need to aim it!”, “rack the pump, that’s all you need to solve the problem!”, “birdshot is plenty for home defense!”, “shotgun shot doesn’t penetrate through walls!”, and all the other Twitter-length quips that if not blatant falsehoods are very manipulated versions of the truth. When people sell the shotgun on the premises of being this wonder weapon that will annihilate any foes in one shot that at the same time has its shot come to a halt in the first layer of drywall, and doesn’t require more than a box of birdshot at an indoor range to be considered competent in using one is when I have to sit there and wonder just how many people trying to push shotguns as self defense weapons actually know what they’re talking about.
@@Verdha603 I agree with most of your sentiments. I would suggest, if you haven't already seen it, to take a look at Paul Harrell's demonstration on birdshot for home defense. The results surprised me.
@@billbrasky527 Oh, I absolutely have. In fact, I actually use Harrell’s video as evidence aimed at the folks preaching how birdshot is all you need to prove that it’s not better because it doesn’t overpenetrate. Can birdshot kill? Certainly, but at least from what I’ve seen from reported self defense shootings, it’s simply not as consistent as buckshot, with precise shot placement mattering a lot more with birdshot than buckshot.
James thanks so much much for the tip about using the shell cards over the EXPENSIVE SIDE SADDLE option....You Are Brilliant Dude!. And hell yea that 2+mag extension is the bomb!
As much as I love a semi auto giving me semi chubs, I'll stick with the ol reliable mossy 590. Have had one for years. Used one in the army. Always reliable.
My first gun was an 870 youth 20ga. My dad gave it to me for Christmas almost 30 years ago and I still have it. I just bought a 1301 partly due to your videos about it.
Love my 5 round side saddle from GG&’G. Excellent shell retention, and it also incorporates a QD sling mount(single point!). Sitting on a Shockwave with a streamlight forend, vortex venom , and original SB tactical brace. Digging the shotgun videos.
@Paul Clarke Sturdy, yes. Powerful? Depends. High quality? Speaking as a former serviceman... ... ... Haha-hahahaha hahahahahhahaha... *deep breath* HAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHA!
ive seen ammo cans from the marines that had the paint peeling off how do you even do that arent they suppose to be sera coated of something? wtf marines
E1-E4 11B: able to “F” up a ball bearing in a sandbox with a rubber mallet. Just enough IQ to register 98.6 on a thermometer. Three bowls of dumbass for breakfast every day. Totally ate up, goat smelling, pushing up ft. Benning, Ground Reinforcement Usually Not Trained. Blood type: OD, religion: infantry. 11 is the lowest number, and Bravo is the lowest letter, but everyone wants to be us. Every day’s a holiday, every formation’s a parade, every meal’s a feast! Boots and knives from ranger joes, tattoos and clap from victory drive. If you know what I’m talking about, god bless you brother. If you don’t then KMA REMF. :-)
Hey James, I really loved this episode. And per Clint I am getting a few dozen of those cards. But brah, my DP-12 carries 26 shells in the tubes. Although that 1301 is pretty and fast. I've got 26 shells, and it spits them quickly. Especially when I don't have to reload it 3x. Thanks again. And this is definitely what I pay for with my Patron/SubsribeStar accounts.
And your DP 12 is 3 lbs heavier. James' chest rig and full cards probably don't add up to 3lbs but even if they did it is well distributed. Faster isn't always better.
Yes please more shotgun videos! It's kinda my thing too. Ah look at Johnny boy over there rockin the benelli. I'm going with pump shotgun and sidearm as a good general load out for most conditions.
First was a Wally World Winchester 1300 defender. And have been partial to them ever since. Have a 120 Ranger in a Defender configuration at present. Still serving me well.
Definitely harassed you on Reddit to make this video like 6 months ago but here it sits and apparently I can’t search for shit. Thanks as always for the stellar content.
Does Clint cover in his classes the situation where you end up firing 25+ shotgun shells? Seems like any situation where you would carry 50 rounds of 12 gauge you really need to be packing a rifle.
Love my shotgun. I bought it just to have one and it has become my favorite firearm. So versatile. I had a shell pop out of my old shotgun card on the side. I think it may be time to buy some new ones.
I set up an cheap maverick 88 7+ as a combat system. But I run the mini shells with the adapter I fit 13 slugs or buck shot! And a sling that dubs as 30 shell holder. I have a light and a red dot too!
Just watched your video with an icy cold triple IPA. Both good stuff 👍. Really impressed with the card system. Seems like THE solution to a hungry shotgun. As it happens, my first gun was also a Remington 870 Wingmaster in 20ga. My Dad took me to Gemco in 1980 when I was 14 to get it. I paid cash for it at the counter from my wallet in California 🤯!! How things have changed. Thanks for what you do.
Great video. I was just about to "shell out" (.. see what I did there?) for an aluminum side carrier. Glad I watched this first. Just ordered velcro for like 1/5 the cost. All those points make perfect sense too.
Awesome video so much detail! As the Israel situation has kicked off many supplies for Benelli M4 and shotgun ammunition have sold out. Will have to be diligent about acquiring supplies when times are good.
Damn dude! I was almost over the last video about this shotgun. I spent days convincing myself not to buy one and now you wave the red cape in front of me again. I hate you.
You know what would make the shotshell cards even better? If they came with mountable magnets for the receiver and magnets below the Velcro on the card. That way you could use Velcro for attaching them to you and other things and the magnets to hold the card to the gun. As to make it less prone to falling off in water or after prolonged use of the Velcro
Got my first 12g on my 12th Christmas. I got it because my dad knew I was ready. And I was. To this day, I LOVE a a classic single shot break action 12g
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My first gun was also a shotgun. Dad bought me a Browning Auto5 when I was 13. Of course I still have it. Thanks Dad, Happy Father's Day. You spoiled me. Miss you everyday.
God bless you and you're father Robert!! Thanks for sharing!
Bro ur making me cry 🥲
Awesome......mine was a New England , breach loading 20g , was 11, first duck hunt, that I was hunting not just learning, ducks landing in , shot at a green head, 2 dropped into the creek , 3" 4 steels, the adults never talked shit about my single shot again
Your pops was awesome and so is the browning auto 5 !!!!
Did he go to prison too?
The way Clint rests his hand on James chest rig at 5:55 reminds me of Bane asking the dude “do you feel in charge?”
I love when Tactical Grandpa makes appearances
As an older shooter, one of my biggest regrets is being late to appreciating shotguns They are the do it all firearm and I've grown to really appreciate them. They can be used for most things, from sport to hunting to home defense, etc.. Great video.
Discovered shotguns last year. Totally agree on the hot take. I was like "Why in the heck did I wait so long for these??" Buckshot into a thawed ham REALLY drives home how much damage these things can do to you.
@@brandonbowerstx
Yes sir, you are right. If I really had to take along one firearm on a survival type of situation it would probably be a 12 gauge pump action shotgun with a variety of different shot shells. 👍
The quips were fire today. I especially appreciated the one about shaking a screaming baby and the one about the high school diploma.
I have a mossberg 500 and it goes boom then I go “clack-clack” then it goes boom again. That concludes today’s shotgun course.
Yep...love my 590A1...trying to justify getting a Benelli M4 but just can't.
I have one of the earlier 590's in marinecote. Had it for many years and love it. Recently picked up a Black Aces Tactical S Max 12 gauge semiautomatic. It's a 7 shot. I've put around 300 rounds through it so far with no issues at all.
That's exactly what I was thinking before I even clicked the video.
I have a Mossberg 500 that I've had since I was a kid, and 25 years later, now own a Beretta 1301. Best of both worlds. Treat yourself right.
@@KonaLife I am diverting all funds to buying stripped AR-15 lowers...did this in the 90s when I was 21 right when the last assault weapons ban went into effect...funded lots of projects into 2004.
I’m glad you spelled out the pro of using a 7rd card. I thought you were going to say the shotgun takes Glock mags
It doesn’t?
@@RoyGIndigo sounds like you don't know what live shells do when shot. physics still apply, and youll have more to worry about anyway...you just got shot...
James Cosplay
Pink Tank Top
Minimalist Shorts
Tactical Fanny Pack
Minimalist Chest Rig
"minimalist" shorts, thats a good way to put it...
Don’t forget about the tactical chub!
Mil-spec = Tactical Chub
“A sling’s like a high school diploma, I don’t care where it’s from I just want you to have one and I’m pretty sure most of you don’t.”
Hey at least I got my GED!
Hey man, I always joke about comparing my w2’s with my friends that actually went to college and got an education.
That shuts em right up😁
Came here to say the same thing!
My sister in law was big mad when she realized I was making as much and more than her with her as a teacher with a masters and me as at the time a federal police officer. Now that I’m back in oil field it’s far north of triple than her. She’s definitely not happy.
@@soonerfrac4611 it's pretty sad how bad teachers get paid
@@1301407gl People that join the teaching profession to make corporate salaries or heavy labor hourly rates are always going to be disappointed. They get summers off and pensions though...so they don't sweat or work too hard mostly.
That +2 extension with the pictanny rail section is exactly what's needed for this shotgun
I’ve got a fever. And the only prescription is more shotgun videos.
Sir, thats Covid-19 you are experiencing
@@Onlybadtakes2589 James knows we need more shotgun content.
@@cozruf25 12 ga
too much scattergun hate nowadays. Love to see the love
@@b.h.7430 only degenerates disrespect the shotgun.
These shotgun cards are game changing, actually allows a near-magazine system for shotguns.
FINALLY!!! I've been running the velcro 7-shot cards for YEARS, patiently waiting for the rest of the world to wake up.
Been using esstac 7 rd cards on my 870 for years. Also have a hitechcustom chest rig. Completely stolen fro the OSOG cop rig but 7 rd cards instead of 6 rd cards, plus the owner isn’t a narcissistic dick. Also have an HSGI so chest rig that holds 6 7rd esstac cards in HSGI double tacos. Works great for quail and pheasant season. :-).
how's that velcro holding up? I know there are different brands and quality, so mileage varies. Thanks.
I had plans for a 1301 before your video, but it confirmed my choice to get one, as well as some ideas on modifications. I followed some, modified some, and did some you did not. First off, I did research on the shell cards and concluded that 1) ESSTAC was a good product and 2), the 6 shell card was better than the 7 card. In my opinion, it fits better on the receiver and especially the stock. Even a 6 rd card can be tricky on the stock as just a little too far forward and it will impact the inside of the right wrist. A 7 rd card on the is in my opinion, too long, but it doesn't really interfere with either hand. But I didn't want to have different sized cards. The 6 rd card will also fit in an AR15 mag pouch and can be pulled out by the loop. I also installed a Nordic magazine tube extension. I opted to do more work and I installed a QD socket mount in the left side of the buttstock rather than use the sling mount on the underside. Personal choice, it seemed to work well for you. I have to say that I've watched this vid twice and your prior 1301 vid more times than I can count. Paying attention to what worked, what didn't, what was different as you progressed through the course, how you reloaded, how others reloaded, etc. In both vids, good job. You helped me a lot.
Well my first car was a PT Cruiser, probably explains my AK preference
Please tell u gave it chrome spinners
My first car was a Lexus , explains my affliction for AR’s
PT cruisers suck...
...if you are tall.
AK preference is a redemption for (piss) poor taste in cars.
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m so ig you like toyotas you like ar15?
@@schrodingersgat4344 Probably why I like them, then (AKs, that is). My first car was a used Merkur XR4ti. Nice car, but Oh. My. God. the maintenance it demanded just to keep kind of running. Maybe not piss poor taste, but a piss poor choice right out of college.
Experience is something you get right after you need it.
James, watching this with my daughter as we are getting our shotguns set up for Thunder Ranch. The Shotgun Cards are freaking awesome! Going to order a couple dozen, thank you for saving us $$ on a hard side saddle.
A couple dozen!?!?! Are you expecting a xenomorph infestation in your area? If not you should be!!!
I keep 2 of those 6 shot shell cards in each of the 30rd AR mag pouches on my shotgun specific tactical vest. 5 pockets, 12 rounds per pocket- 60rds plus what's in the gun.
Also, fun fact, 12 deep 12 gauge shotshells give significant ballistic protection vs handgun and PCC threats.
Hell yeah, brother.
870 Wingmaster in 20ga is a fantastic first purchase. Nice job.
Don’t be fooled, there’s still a lot police departments that still use very small 20ga for close quarters use.
I enjoy watching James hang out with Clint. You can just tell how much he loves and respects him. Thanks for the video!
Did Clint really say Don't Be a Pussy to James's face?
Hilarious
I prefer a 4-shell side saddle just for slug changeovers. I do all of my reloading from a belt mounted shell holder. To me it’s less weight on the gun, and the reloads tend to be smoother. Great content as always!
I haven’t thought of this..I would like to know of comparison of 4 shells vs 7
PSA: Do NOT buy Blue Force Gear slings from Amazon. There's a very good chance they will be inferior counterfeits.
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/03/19/counterfeit-blue-force-gear-sling-2/
Frakking Amazon sells a lot of counterfeit shit that's gun-related. They need their asses kicked. Hard.
Amazon essentially enables counterfeit merchandise and has almost no way for a retailer to enforce their brand and protect their trademarks.
@@alfredlear4141 What makes them counterfeit-proof? Just asking.
@@mohawkdriver4155
I was correcting an earlier typo. I'll delete that comment now, it's not relevant although I must say over the last couple of years I've been sceptical about the origin of the reviews on Amazon ...
"Shaking it like a screaming baby" laughed my ass off!
Am I the only person who can't get enough of that footage of the snow falling on your shotgun class? The slow motion is especially badass.
Thanks for your post, your last video about the 1301 motivated my kids to gifted me with one on Father’s Day!
Love your presentations. (1) You speak in complete sentences (subject + verb + object.) (2) You do not lard up your speech wiuth hundreds of those ignorant non-word "UH" sounds. Your presentations are winners, all the way around. Congrats. On top of it all, you are a master of your subject matter.
My first shotgun was a Keltec KSG and I have to agree the shot cards are awesome they are sturdy and you have an insane amount of versatility with shell loadout
Running shotgun cards in a blue force gear chest rig for about a decade. excellent system.
Agree with you one hundred percent on the side saddle/shotgun card issue, I arrived at the same conclusion a couple years back after the sixty dollar side saddle I bought for my 870 didn't properly fit and contributed to cycling issues with the pump. Wound up buying a bunch of inexpensive shotgun cards on Amazon and it's part of my shotgun setup now. Just wish I'd learned this sooner and saved me some cash on that useless side saddle. Kickass video, very informative and as always, entertaining : )
“ I’m shaking this thing like a screaming baby” LoL! I love my 1301. Great video
Oh my gosh. Literally laughing out loud in my office with that mom comment. Fricking hilarious.
Picked up a 1301 LE enhanced. Love it. Eats everything except those mini shells. Last scatter gun I will buy. Already 700 plus rounds through it.
Worth every single last penny.
I love your sense of humor.
Same lol
"I'm shaking these things like a screaming baby" has to be the quote of the year
Keep the Thunder Ranch content collabs coming, James!! These are fantastic and Clint Smith is simply legendary. You're pretty so-so yourself. Thanks, man!
Clint Smith "They're not that expensive, so buy 100 of them and quit being a bitch." LOVE IT!!
Even a reasonable person can afford a dozen cards, a chest rig or warbelt ...and enough shells to fill them.
Finding the shells might still be problematic.
Left handed shooter here. I own and tried the exact Esstac setup you have except on a Remington shotgun. Shoot that shotgun with your support side. Change shoulders and shoot left handed. Go to 6:58 in the video and look at that lower aft corner of the Esstac card. It will dig a huge channel in your left hand when you pull the trigger provided you can even grip the gun to shoot it without obstruction. It won't be fun even with gloves and you can still get a nasty groove dug into your hand.
I've had extensive training where Clint Smith worked before he founded Thunder Ranch and find those shot cards to not hold the rounds nor stay where "slapped" on the Velcro during hard and/or rapid use. Shoot under a barricade having switched to your left side to get low enough and see what happens to those rounds and that card when they drag the ground under recoil.
Then there is the "slapping" cards onto the receiver. Rip the empty off and slap on a new one as fast as you can under stress. It won't be straight. It might be so crooked that you might even obstruct your trigger finger assuming you are shooting right handed. Maybe it's too far forward or too far aft and causes other problems.
I believe the best application for those cards is simply to carry more ammo in an orderly package that you can stick to a Velcro patch on the exterior of your kit and load from there. Esstac card in a pouch, remove from pouch, stick to kit, load from the card. The card is not on the gun.
These are non-workable for a left handed shooter. Shoot support side with one of these cards on the gun and you'll quickly agree.
Nice. I never thought of having multiple shotgun cards stored like AR mags. Thanks!
I hadn’t either. That sold me on the shotgun card for sure
Phenomenal video.
Too many folks think “it’s a shotgun, it’s idiot proof” without actually understanding that training is required.
Just got my hands on the Benelli M4 so this vid is perfectly timed for me. Falling in love with my Benelli in ways I never thought I would cause I’ve never been into shotguns
I have been a Remington shooter for 40 years. Started with the 1100 then moved into the 870/18.5” with light n side saddle. Have been hankering for something lighter and came across James Thunder Ranch video of this 1301. I was actually looking for the M4 but when I saw this hot rod of shotguns I fell in love with it. Well as everyone knows guns are pricey and in limited supply this year 2021. As God favors His own I was talking with my neighbor shortly after beginning my search for the 1301T ODG, he said I just saw one yesterday (Saturday) at one of our local shops in ODG. “For real?”, “Yes”. Call the local gun shop on Tuesday putting the exact ODG 1301 that I was looking for on hold. Picked it up on Saturday one week after hearing it was in town. Have fired some boxes through it and just in love with it. My son has the M4 so we enjoyed running these guns side by side. The 1301 is a great purchase. Love the Blue Force sling have them on AR platforms, but I am also looking into the Warrior Poet Bungee sling as well. Will be adding the 7 cards to gun as backup ammo carriers. BTW one of my son-in law now has my 870/18.5” he loves it just as much as I do, it was hard to part with it but this weight loss was my deciding factor, just love the 6.75# as out of the box weight. Understanding it will get heavier as items attach themselves but will still be lighter in the end. Love the content James and keep the updates coming.
Excellent shotgun use content! It is so rare to see, for lack of a better way to say it, tips and tricks of the tactical shotgun. Now that you have it, what do you do with it? How do you set it up? How do you run it? How do you maximize it's strong points? How do you overcome the weaker ones? Great start! More, much more, pls?
Just got my 590 recently and came to this video for card setup. Thank you James and TFB for this outreach and filling in their gray area!
Love esstac, they have great products, I have a few types of their ar15,10, and double stack pistol pouches. One thing I have to warn about from my personal experience with them is their customer service from the civilian consumer side is horribly nonexistent. I had an issue with the wrong pouch they sent me and I could not get ahold of them at all. So there are no returns if something goes wrong, just make sure you are absolutely sure of your purchase before purchasing from them.
You made a believer out of me. Both of my "tactical" shotguns (a 1972 Remington 870 purchased for $75 from Brown's Home and Auto - yeah, my first - and a 1980s Benelli M1 Super 90, both in 12ga) have side saddles because thats all that was available back then. But I'll be looking into the cards now for sure!
Completely off topic; my daughter's are getting into metal detecting and I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a good starting metal detector?
@@jameswessling6982 what I think is best bang for the buck right now is the Nokta Simplex WITH wireless headphones.
Very well articulated. Just like a professional announcer. And you did not once resort to that very stuipid non-word, "UH" ! Congratulations on a job well done, Sir. It is a pleasure to listen to you speak.
I rock Velcro shotcards on my 870P using the Vang Comp VCS and never thought to add a spare card to the stock! Great idea! Now my gun will have 18 shells ready to fawk-ing RAWK BRAH!!!!
Those are the best cards, I'm going to get more from Vang Comp. All my other cards are worn out, from SOE Tactical.
Get A TACTALOAD FLASH
5 Stock, To Add 5 Extra Rds...
Cool. Had a friend who worked for Rem for 30 years on the line putting together ll87 and 870. There was not much he could not do with these shotguns. Thanks for the video.
Shaking it like a crying baby, LMFAO. I learn so much & get a comedy act also.
I love it when he says I’m shaking these cards like a screaming baby.
James and OG “Officer Greg” need to make a shotgunning in tactical short shorts video together!!!! Millions of views!!!!!
I’m down. But James is way too cool for my tiny channel. 🤷♂️
Love the shotgun videos and these are helpful to me since I've gotten more into shotguns since the ammo is not as scarce as rifle ammo. A shotgun tactics video would be very appreciated.
Could you also do a video of 922(r) from an attorney's perspective?
Been using the Estac Shotgun Cards for years. Great review.
Thanks!
Too all the shotgun for defense haters out there, Suck It! Shotguns are awesome for home defense as long as one know their limitations.
A defensive perimeter of 50-70 yards should be enough for most residences unless SHTF
Folks that understand the strengths and limitations of a shotgun aren’t the problem children; my hate is usually directed at the ignoramuses that pull the usual BS of “you don’t need to aim it!”, “rack the pump, that’s all you need to solve the problem!”, “birdshot is plenty for home defense!”, “shotgun shot doesn’t penetrate through walls!”, and all the other Twitter-length quips that if not blatant falsehoods are very manipulated versions of the truth.
When people sell the shotgun on the premises of being this wonder weapon that will annihilate any foes in one shot that at the same time has its shot come to a halt in the first layer of drywall, and doesn’t require more than a box of birdshot at an indoor range to be considered competent in using one is when I have to sit there and wonder just how many people trying to push shotguns as self defense weapons actually know what they’re talking about.
@@Verdha603 I agree. It is an awesomely powerful weapon when properly employed.
@@Verdha603 I agree with most of your sentiments. I would suggest, if you haven't already seen it, to take a look at Paul Harrell's demonstration on birdshot for home defense. The results surprised me.
@@billbrasky527 Oh, I absolutely have. In fact, I actually use Harrell’s video as evidence aimed at the folks preaching how birdshot is all you need to prove that it’s not better because it doesn’t overpenetrate. Can birdshot kill? Certainly, but at least from what I’ve seen from reported self defense shootings, it’s simply not as consistent as buckshot, with precise shot placement mattering a lot more with birdshot than buckshot.
I use a stock pull over shell holder... but I wear it on my right wrist( brass down) I can with left hand feed the tube ultra fast
my remmington 870 is setup with the following modifications:
cartridges.
James thanks so much much for the tip about using the shell cards over the EXPENSIVE SIDE SADDLE option....You Are Brilliant Dude!. And hell yea that 2+mag extension is the bomb!
As much as I love a semi auto giving me semi chubs, I'll stick with the ol reliable mossy 590. Have had one for years. Used one in the army. Always reliable.
This is the kind of load-out discussion that makes a man push the subscribe button. Thank you very much.
6+1 18.5" Mossberg 590 Retrograde with Heat Shield is what I've wanted since they were announced pretty much i'm just a cheapskate
I cant even find one anymore
@@burningvalhalla3359 look up exile armory on youtube they post vids everyday about what's in stock I think it was 430 dont quote me though
If you have a Cabelas/Basspro near you they have them free ship to store for $529.
I've got my original Mossberg 590 8+1 w/heat shield that was the first gun I ever bought. It's still my baby. I actually just put new furniture on it.
My first gun was an 870 youth 20ga. My dad gave it to me for Christmas almost 30 years ago and I still have it. I just bought a 1301 partly due to your videos about it.
Love my 5 round side saddle from GG&’G. Excellent shell retention, and it also incorporates a QD sling mount(single point!). Sitting on a Shockwave with a streamlight forend, vortex venom , and original SB tactical brace. Digging the shotgun videos.
If you got 4inches left over....you can mount a beer can cozy !!!
Every day I realize how much of my tactical taste is from this channel.
Minimal chest rigs are the sexiest shit
When I hear "military grade," my brain translates it to "cheap, overbuilt, and durable, because E-1s *will* find ways to destroy it."
@Paul Clarke
Sturdy, yes. Powerful? Depends. High quality? Speaking as a former serviceman...
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*deep breath*
HAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I found a way to destroy everything my unit gave me lol
ive seen ammo cans from the marines that had the paint peeling off
how do you even do that arent they suppose to be sera coated of something? wtf marines
E1-E4 11B: able to “F” up a ball bearing in a sandbox with a rubber mallet. Just enough IQ to register 98.6 on a thermometer. Three bowls of dumbass for breakfast every day. Totally ate up, goat smelling, pushing up ft. Benning, Ground Reinforcement Usually Not Trained. Blood type: OD, religion: infantry. 11 is the lowest number, and Bravo is the lowest letter, but everyone wants to be us. Every day’s a holiday, every formation’s a parade, every meal’s a feast! Boots and knives from ranger joes, tattoos and clap from victory drive. If you know what I’m talking about, god bless you brother. If you don’t then KMA REMF. :-)
Thanks for getting the word out about those velcro cards. Looks like a great setup. I will adopt this.
Hey James, I really loved this episode. And per Clint I am getting a few dozen of those cards. But brah, my DP-12 carries 26 shells in the tubes. Although that 1301 is pretty and fast. I've got 26 shells, and it spits them quickly. Especially when I don't have to reload it 3x. Thanks again. And this is definitely what I pay for with my Patron/SubsribeStar accounts.
the weight for 26 rounds would be a lot.. no?
And your DP 12 is 3 lbs heavier. James' chest rig and full cards probably don't add up to 3lbs but even if they did it is well distributed. Faster isn't always better.
Brilliant video. Learned lots as an older newbie, and, also, decided on a 1301 as my next shotgun.....
Can never have too much shotty content.
Love how I saw this video and when Clint said order 100…….I told myself I need more of them they are now $15 a piece gotta love it!!!!
You know you’re the same age as James when “pimp” was also your favorite noun, adjective, and verb in high school
Yes please more shotgun videos! It's kinda my thing too. Ah look at Johnny boy over there rockin the benelli. I'm going with pump shotgun and sidearm as a good general load out for most conditions.
There is not enough good shotgun content on the YT.
First was a Wally World Winchester 1300 defender. And have been partial to them ever since.
Have a 120 Ranger in a Defender configuration at present. Still serving me well.
"I assume mil-spec means it's better," killing me James😂.
Definitely harassed you on Reddit to make this video like 6 months ago but here it sits and apparently I can’t search for shit. Thanks as always for the stellar content.
Does Clint cover in his classes the situation where you end up firing 25+ shotgun shells? Seems like any situation where you would carry 50 rounds of 12 gauge you really need to be packing a rifle.
100% agree. If you're into something where you might fire off 50 rounds, the shotgun is not the weapon for the job. And I'm a shotgun guy.
Love my shotgun. I bought it just to have one and it has become my favorite firearm. So versatile. I had a shell pop out of my old shotgun card on the side. I think it may be time to buy some new ones.
I figured you'd know by know James that "milspec" just means lowest bidder
The full statement is “lowest bidder that meets specs” slightly different meaning.
Except it doesn’t. That’s just what people joke about when they want to sound like they know something.
@@RF-wn7et exactly. Joke about. It’s a joke. I don’t “want to sound like I know something”. I’m just making a joke. That is all.
Thanks for the video. I just got my first defensive-oriented shotgun and it'll be fully set up soon.
🥇Tactical Chubby “Tier 1 operators silently nodding in approval of my purchase” 🥇
I set up an cheap maverick 88 7+ as a combat system.
But I run the mini shells with the adapter I fit 13 slugs or buck shot! And a sling that dubs as 30 shell holder.
I have a light and a red dot too!
James, That chest rig with the shotshells looks like you about to go into an aloha snackbar mode
fkn lol with that snackbar comment. Caught me off guard, but yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
I know this is older, but this really helped me with the whole side saddle decision. Thank you. Mark
Just watched your video with an icy cold triple IPA. Both good stuff 👍. Really impressed with the card system. Seems like THE solution to a hungry shotgun.
As it happens, my first gun was also a Remington 870 Wingmaster in 20ga. My Dad took me to Gemco in 1980 when I was 14 to get it. I paid cash for it at the counter from my wallet in California 🤯!! How things have changed.
Thanks for what you do.
This came out at the perfect time. Just got me an 870 Express Magnum in 20 and now I know exactly what accessories to buy
I love how James gets all giddy and nervous around a pretty girl who knows how to handle a gun better than him
I love how gun guys think any girl in a gun video is pretty.
@@e7tegt503 OMG truth...and this one? Internet just littered with desperate men.
One of my exes would giggle whenever she hit a bullseye. It always gave me the warm fuzzies.
Great video. I was just about to "shell out" (.. see what I did there?) for an aluminum side carrier. Glad I watched this first. Just ordered velcro for like 1/5 the cost. All those points make perfect sense too.
Love the "passed around like a wuhan viral infection" hahahaha
Awesome video so much detail! As the Israel situation has kicked off many supplies for Benelli M4 and shotgun ammunition have sold out. Will have to be diligent about acquiring supplies when times are good.
James, when your debuting the OnlyFans?
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@@tfbtv I was afraid to click. I'm glad I did...
Your videos are top notch, informative, and instructional. I always learn a lot. Thanks!
That’s what I’m talking about. Showers down the hall, money’s on the dresser James. 😘
How I have never seen this fella is inexplicable...... this is great stuffs mane. Thanks!
“Shaking it like a screaming baby” most definitely not PC 😂🤣
I love how you geek all out on the types of weapons - looking forward to the insiders on the Semi shutgun
I honestly can't tell if the "mom going to federal prison" thing was a joke or not.... 😳
Seriously?! 🤦♂️
hahaha, it was definitely a clever dig at BS gun regulation laws/agencies
Officer Greg from Taofledermaus talked about these a few years ago. They were sold out forever and I'm glad to see them coming back.
Damn dude! I was almost over the last video about this shotgun. I spent days convincing myself not to buy one and now you wave the red cape in front of me again. I hate you.
You know what would make the shotshell cards even better?
If they came with mountable magnets for the receiver and magnets below the Velcro on the card. That way you could use Velcro for attaching them to you and other things and the magnets to hold the card to the gun. As to make it less prone to falling off in water or after prolonged use of the Velcro
Got my first 12g on my 12th Christmas.
I got it because my dad knew I was ready. And I was. To this day, I LOVE a a classic single shot break action 12g
This could just become an all shotgun channel, and I'd be here for it.
My first shotgun was an used classic Ithaca model 37. Smooth as butter.
Just picked mine up today! Was planning on buying a 590A1 and was shocked to see a 1301 in stock!