Why Do BMW Depreciate So Much?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Why Do BMW Depreciate So Much?
Do you wonder why BMWs depreciate so quickly? Do BMW cars hold their value? Let me tell you why they depreciate so much, and how we end up with so many BMWs available.
There are a few reasons that #BMW cars #depreciate. After the warranty, parts and service become costly by comparison. You also have to consider how the BMWs tend to be more of a luxury car, and as a result they're not a necessity. On top of that, your technicians are essentially specialists. They have to be trained by BMW (and this holds true with lots of car manufacturers).
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So basically ...... cost of parts and service repairs when warranties are over. There I just saved you 9 minutes
The real reason is status. Buying a brand new BMW or Benz means you're doing well so when they're two years old they lose their market. People who buy a used Benz are not the same people who buy a new one. That simple.
Sounded like a politician , dragged the same topic . 5 min gave up
@footballcoreano if that is all that went in to it then Honda and Toyota would be the most expensive
@@metinakkusoglu7964 Not a politician. He strikes me as a bullshit used car salesman.
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Why do BMW's depreciate so much?.... Because they were never really worth anywhere near BMW's MSRP to begin with.
Hi Art, You will want to see my video released tomorrow morning as I explain everything. Cheers.
Expensive to start with. Do you know that the first 4 years of ownership/leasing ALL of your maintenance service is included which also includes a loaner car? Do you know how many people really maintain their cars the way the manual calls for which includes changing the brake fluid every two years??
Art Gutierrez i mean bro just see the interior. It’s basic quality materials used. Unlike Mercedes-Benz whose cars are actually made of high quality and don’t depreciate nearly as fast.
Wesam kachouri Mercedes is maybe a bit more reliable. But bmw is better mid range
That much agreed!
Scotty told me they are endless money pits
Has Scotty owned one ?
Scotty is an idiot
I don’t know how bmw thought a car with no dipstick is a good idea
Scotty also made a video saying don't buy turbo cars. Then he made a video later saying you should buy a 4cyl turbo mustang
you right brother
People in America are so crazy over BMW and Mercedes, while they are taxis in Europe. smh.
Europe also has supercar cop cars lol don't nobody care
Garth Wright Not me. They are just over priced, over engineered and unreliable modes of transportation.
@@vollste well thats just a completely erroneous generalization lol
I ain't seen a BMW Taxi in the UK lol
Skoda and Prius are the vehicles of choice.
Changing a Thermostat or water pump on a Toyota takes less than 30 minutes vs Audi the whole front of the car must be disassembled.
I don't know about the newer BMWs, but the water pump on my E46 can be changed quicker than any other car I had, and probably any Toyota, especially being their since their cars are fwd.
Toyota are OK for OAP cars, however, when it comes to the new Supra, well that has a BMW Z4 engine, running gear and most of the interior, so if Toyota are so superior how come the coolest car they have ever made is actually a BMW
@@davidviner4932 the coolest car they ever made was made with yamaha. 3x in fact. The 2000gt. The mk4 supra and the LFA.
Most parts even the minor ones can be repaired and replaced for Japanese cars, while most parts in BMW Audi need replace the whole bunch.
Yes, it isn’t all that hard anymore and more of these cars are made in North America like some Mercedes are made in the south. The new Audi Q5 is made in Mexico.
Mostly overexaggerating how complex German cars are...yet Toyota makes the most reliable cars
Thanks
For the folks who are hating on them without much basis behind it...yes, they are expensive. Yes, some models are overpriced. However, have you ever sat in one or better yet driven one? The build quality is incredible and the handling is on a whole other playing field compared to cheaper American competitors that are in the same general car class.
Yeah, some people buy them for ego...to try to be flashy or whatever. But many buyers genuinely appreciate the driving experience (which is second-to-none pretty much across the board for BMW), build quality and comfort that comes as a part of the package.
For reliability, if you do your research you'll find they are average overall. It should be acknowledged that part of it comes down to the driver themselves - how well they care for the car and how aggressively they drive it.
Even if you have no intent to buy one, swing by a dealership and take one for a test drive just for shits ‘n giggles. Even if they’re not the car for you, you’ll at least get a good sense of what I’m talking about.
Thanks Jared, I totally agree and thats why I drive them too. I never "got it" until I drove one and then found out why they are what they are, the "ultimate driving machine". I also found Porsche the same way, initially I thought that they were overpriced but then experienced one and realized what all the fuss was about.
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You’re right . In Europe you can find Bmw with 500.000 km still runing.
My goddaughter bought a BMW, she let me drive it one time . I was not impressed at all. Didn't see any difference in handling between BMW and my Hyundai Elantra. Fiew times I drove some BMW owners in my car and they asked me, this is Hyundai? What a great smooth ride, great handling. Let's just say I saved at least $45,000 not BUYING BMW. Women like me in my Hyundai just fine.😎😎😎
+SUPER77 cope
Some people in here 😂😂"I got a 2003 bmw 3 series with 800k on the clock and it kept breaking down. Never again" 😂😂
Just listen to Scotty. He fixes them, he drives them, and knows what he is talking about. As he said, they break down faster, parts are expensive, labor is expensive, very complex to work on. Just repeating what Scotty said.
redmustang04 redmustang04 get a trustworthy mechanic and it won’t be
Scotty Kilmer is a dinosaur. His opinions mean squat to real car guys. His daily driver is a 1994 Celica. He has not kept up with modern cars. His advice about cars applies mainly to broke people who are buying used cars under $6000 USD. BMWs are mostly crap though. However Audi and Mercedes have become a lot more reliable. Look at the consumer reports reliability reports. Audi is really high on the list. FIAT Chrysler vehicles are the ones to be avoided.
If you don’t have money for a new one you don’t have money for a used one.
My man it’s not about the maintenance it’s about the reliable of this expensive car that you shouldn’t be having for the price
Bro these cars are so much cheaper as soon they leave the lot. You might have a lot of money it don’t mean you gotta throw it away butttt good try🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Words to live by
BMW are no way a good investment, It’s a money pit , whether you have money or not 😂😂😂😂😂 my boss has one and most of the time he’s driving a courtesy car from BMW car shop 😂😂😂😂😂😂. He says he spent tons of money, I just don’t understand why he keeps the car 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@JesusSanchez-wd1vq All cars are. The reasoning of buying a new car is you are sure no one used it in a wrong way. A lot of used cars are leased anyway. You know people never changed oil the entire time they had the vehicle.
BMW uses far too many cheap plastic parts in their engine bay especially in the cooling system. Parts that are made of aluminum in Asian models are plastic in BMW where it is guaranteed to fail over time due to high heat. They simply have no excuse why their electrical components fail so much earlier than others except cheap cost cutting in search of profit.
BMWs are known for electrical problems.
Garth Wright id rather deal with electric issues than driving a shitty Toyota. 2007 328i was same price new as 2007 camry, and they are same price now used as well. Except bmw still drives like a dream and the Toyota is bought as a “beater” so you don’t “put miles on your more expensive car”..
Ivan Dimov LMAO stop lying. What’s the point of owning a car if you’re gonna have electrical problems every so many months. Just admit you did a bad money decision
@@ivandimov6900 "shitty toyota" that can get to 300k easier and cheaper than a 2007 bmw. How close minded are you to believe that there is an actual bargain in accepting a car with more problems because its "more of a car". There are plenty of quality cars from 2007 you can get from both brands that are fantastic machines but when it comes down to it- - a "quality" car from a luxury brand being the same price as a lowly toyota should speak volumes in itself.
Jesse James I had an ‘03 BMW 330ci and at 60k miles, the fan blade exploded. It destroyed about $1,100 in other parts and cost me $1,500 to fix them all. The motor over heated also and ALMOST warped it. All because of poorly selected plastic material. I read this was a common issue. Way to go German engineers.
Got my F10 5 series in 2015, been 5 years now, and it runs great till today, no failure, nothing. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. I love BMW.
They are fantastic to drive, but I'd never own one outside of warranty. A low mileage certified vehicle is the way to go, let someone else take that depreciation hit.
Won’t ever buy a Bmw that isn’t under warranty again. Lesson learned.
saucerapple i hear ya 100%
Sameeee
Friends never let friends buy a bmw out of warranty. Never again for me
Simple: Rich people buy them and after a few years the rich want to have the newer model and so they want to sell their old one .. other rich people don’t want to buy an older model so they are forced to sell it to the every day Joe .. however the everyday Joe is skeptical about all the maintenance cost and he is unwilling to drop a lot of money on it , thus the rich guy is forced to sell it at a low price .
@footballcoreano
I don't know what you just said.. but cool
Hi man same here but it's not cool.
Thomas Schmidt : genau
this is the real answer.
After the BMW, I went with LEXUS. Never looked back.
Toyota engine
Omg I know right!! Imo Lexus builds the best quality luxury car on the road.
Every one that I know who bought BMW here in Canada said to me, they will never buy one again. They have nothing but problems. I am happy with a $25000 car, less head ache at the end of the day.
Easy question to answer: rapid reliability drop after 50k miles
Thanks for watching.
GM was the first to install airbags in cars. Get your facts straight. The Germans didn’t engineer everything first but they did over engineer everything first.
What is over engineer?
I'm on my 4th AC compressor in my X3....pretty sure there is a dart board with my face on it at the warranty office.
X3 are like the 7 Series. Just a nightmare. Always broken. Most Reliable BMW's are the 3 and 5 series sedans and the X5's. Why I dunno, just the way it is
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂 my 2013 x6 is worth 25 thousand now I’m sick to my stomach
Our x3 is pretty reliable we had it for 12 years now
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just buy a lexus and live free
Likun Jian yup Lexus all day
Likun Jian SMART
Yeah, buy a Lexus and you will live free, pussy free that is.
Yep. And your retained value will be amongst the best in the business.
you don't know what is live free means take your Lexus and drive it 200 miles per hour for 40 miles straight then drive BMW audi or mercedes then you will know what is freedom
I don't think they "forget about R&D" - I think they prioritize performance (handling and power to the ground). I've had several Japanese cars and several German cars and the Japanese cars have had a lower cost of ownership while the German cars have been more engaging to drive. They're not over-engineered as much as their engineered with different priorities in mind. I'm sure thankful for the choice.
Well stated thanks.
BMWs and Mercedes are for leasing while under warranty. Buying them used without a warranty is financial suicide.
We bought a 3 year old 535i almost two years ago. Brakes, tires and oil changes. That's it. 20k miles in that time.
Haha, yeah much smarter to lease a 2019 for $500 per month that's depreciating rapidly over the first two years.
@@adamvincent746 with a lease you are actually paying the depreciation for the dealership. leasing is so much better than buying used yes, but your monthly payments pay the ENTIRE depreciation, and your 4k or 7k down whatever the initial cost is, is 1000% profit. Then you return the car after 3 years, having payed the depreciation for the dealer allowing him plenty of time to sell that car to some sucker, since it will now not depreciate quickly. The dealer will sell it at a slight mark up but has already made a couple grand off of you. They make money twice off of a lease, i get it leases work out for some, but you don't want to step in your own bullshit here, a lease is a win win for the dealer, and at best a win lose for the customer.
Owned two CPO BMWs over the years, both were bulletproof reliable, not a single issue in six years of ownership. Switched from BMW back to Honda because the quality is nearly indistinguishable between the two brands now, and I got a really great discount from Honda. Also BMW is just flooding the US market, there’s simply nothing special about driving a BMW these days, you can lease a new for $350 / month and they’re as common as Toyota’s as a result.
Bmw is a 60k car not intended to have a second owner if you cant afford a new one bmw dont care about you
Some truth to that
I bought a 57k BMW f30 2015 last year. The car is solid. 0 problems. It was a lease, one owner. I have the money to buy a brand new 850 cash if I want but I dont want to spend that much for a car. In my opinion ALL cars are unreliable. Theres some truth to that. I wonder if everyone who sees me think I cant afford to get it fixed or somehow I am as broke as they are. Crazy.
@Preset Singh Has nothing to do with anxiety issues or being thin skinned... if you want trouble free driving and value you buy a Toyota. If you want status and don't mind the higher maintenance you can take a gamble on a used BMW or Benz.
J T you have money, we know dude you dont have to mention it like 5 times.
Elfenignis You can deny it as much as you want but it’s a fact. Beemers are not reliable, there’s hundreds of parts on these cars that you HAVE to get brand new and it better be OEM as these cars complain or don’t perform as well. You can’t tell me they don’t I make a lot of extra side cash working on 328 and 335i from novice car owners that want to pretend what they’re not. Are they enjoyable to drive? Fuck yes. Is it worth it to continuously work on them for the few months it will run healthy... nah. You can get that same performance from a 370 Nissan without all the hassle
Ok if u are worried about a BMW @100k miles, then you should obviously not own one. These are highly engineered cars with a high performance life shelf. You are buying for high performance, moment uve got the best outta it, you get ride of it. Want to keep complaining get a Toyota.
I will never buy another one. Plague with Electrical issues. X6 reliability is horrible
What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine. A porcupine has the little pricks on the outside.
I have never known a BMW owner that did not regret buying one. Leasing is the way to go if you must own one. Same for VW.
Depends on the bmw almost every e36 owner loves them
Love my 335 already regret the day I buy an out of warranty m5
In my neck of the woods, there are tons of proud BMW owners......many of whom have an Accord,Civic or Camry in the garage just in case.....
That is the only sensible way to own a BMW.
They better
Right😂😂😂😂
Haha i love my car and i have a $1500 camry that i can count on just in case 😂
Automotive locksmith here. Newer german cars Immobilizers are a nightmare, and keys may cost $800 each easy.
Yeah mate like every Toyota , A Landcruiser $1200, I know i had one every single new car cost the same.They are all transponder keys these days and have been for over 10 years
Im a Hyundai tech working on bmw isn’t rocket science if you tackle cars in a systematic approach you can fix almost anything
Agreed, and i realized that man created these and therefore a man can fix it so that is how i prevent getting intimidated. Cheers.
Correct. If you know how to work on cars, its no bigger problem then working on older cars.
Only you probably need a computer with diagnostics. But thats no problem, you get cables for cheap on ebay, software you can download for free. You have online part catalog, online wiring diagrams, online technical information etc.
There are so much great information on the internet for these cars. You can even search for your VIN online and get complete information on your car. Not all cars has so much info avaleble.. Its a PITA when friends with other cars asks me for help, and there is no parts catalog, no wiring diagrams or anything avaleble.. "Well if it was a bmw i could have found all the info you need online, but its not. Sorry"
Alpejohn spot on bro! Its crazy, i learned how to work on my bmw and at first i was discouraged because of what everyone says about them. But i learned that they really are no harder than any other car, i feel confident in driving my car because IVE done the work to it and if anything happens to go wrong, ill fix it again. I use a $100 carly scan took and it helps me so literally everything my girlfriend has a camry and when that thing goes out i have to actually look at it and investigate the problem when the bmw would literally tell me exactly the issue
@@MigySaan and I bet it is very rewarding for the driving experience rather than owning a toyota because its reliable
When I was young(and foolish), I bought a BMW 323i for $20k, it was 5 years old and thought it was a great deal cause New was over $40k. Well, only after 3 years, dealership gave me $8500. But this amount was the total amount of repairs over the years I’ve owned it. So basically, I just got my repairs reimbursed and the entire $20k purchase was gone. Good news is I traded it in for a 2 year old Prius. Paid $20k and sold if 8 years later for ironically $8500(same $). And had no repairs. I understood why it was so appealing to Lease out a BMW, I would of spent the same money but had a lot of fun and let the next guy deal with the repairs.
That's exactly what happened to me. Bought the car for 29k with 28k miles from dealer. Traded it in for 6700 at subaru dealership. So you did better than me.
tommikins1 Rahman After now many years did you own it?
@@tommikins1 A trade in is and has always been a BAD DEAL, it easy and lazy and they stick it to you then they turn around and sell it for double the trade in price.
Jack Bower Thanks Man. I have more to say. BMW and Audi have a huge markup. Some dealers in my area have dropped 4 series from $66k to $46 on the remaining new 2018 models. They’re all cash offers and have no lease available. Warranty period has already begun, dealership has started writing them off. I estimate normal profit on 2019 would be around $10-15k. So when you’re leasing, the first $10-15k of your payments are just going into their profits so by the time the lease ends, they’ve made their money. Noticed the residual/buyout value at the completion of the lease is very close to book value. So if you surrender the car(and go into a new lease), they can try to sell it for a bit more profit or just wholesale them out at depreciated value. Depending on make, model and condition of the lease returned vehicle.
And do you get any real joy driving a Prius ?
All expensive cars depreciate for the same reason. Most people who can afford such cars new (buy or lease) want a new one every couple of years - they do not care about the used market. People who cannot afford such cars new would also have problems covering potential maintenance costs for such cars - so the purchase price for the used cars must go down enough to convince these people that the deal is manageable even when factoring in predictable and unpredictable maintenance costs.
Personally, I am currently leasing a 80k car (3 year lease). I got great leasing rates but new cars are never the best investment, of course. However, new expensive cars give me joy (and are liked by the ladies) so I am more than happy to pay the price.
And as he said in the video, German cars are always pushing the boundaries and are cutting-edge. Hence, they are of course more fault-prone than most Asian or US cars that play it safe.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for watching.
dagda3000 yeah, but many that lease can’t afford to purchase new either.
@@clothestravel Maybe. But they do not have notable maintenance costs and will lease a new one when the current one expires - so they are also not active on the used market.
Nothing wrong with playing it safe
@@leonidassabr9197 That's true but it is also not exciting. A Lexus might be more reliable than a Mercedes but a Mercedes is more desirable (for most people).
Modern tech and reliability shouldn’t have to be mutually exclusive. If you look at a modern Lexus they are quite complex and have tons of technology but they are still reliable. That’s because japanese car makers strive for perfection while Germans manufacturers strive for pride. Think of it as a girl you want to hang out with vs a girl you want to marry.
This is absolutely true. There is a video that explains the co-development between BMW and Toyota on the new supra and how Toyota sent back thousands of BMW parts that were not up to Toyota's quality and durability standards. You can see where they start to speak about this at around the 8:10 mark in this video: ruclips.net/video/_jbyzmtgU_0/видео.html
Nafis Zafar haha well said.
Or a Nissan GTR, new or old.
I used to drive BMWs and M for a decade. Been there, done that nonsense. Now I roll with 2 Lexus' and been very happy with the experience..
Lexus never break. Bmws break literally all the time
japanwatchconnection weird how Jd power and consumer reports reliability surveys both have lexus as the most reliable brand every single year and bmw isn’t even in the top 15 brands. And every mechanic says basically the same thing.. here in America BMWs are basically known as “dumpster cars” because of how cheaply they are made. They’re like the joke car people laugh at
@japanwatchconnection I don't consider my 2011 Lexus ISF that had 416hp&371tq when stock with 8speed direct shift paddle shift in 0.1 sec, with OEM brembo caliper and rotors, BBS Rims, with direct port and dual port injection. Currently FBO, Tuned, port and polished TB, KWv3 Coilovers with E30 blend 510hp with 434whp that I've owned for 8yrs DD 94k miles with no major issues depressing or boring tin can. Out lasted 3 of my buddies 2 with M3's and 1 RS5 all three are gone due all of them having issue. So I guess I'll take my boring tin can out for another 8yrs.
Wtf is up with all these Lexus comments..... They don't even compare
@@Soljarag5 Another Fangirl crying 🤦♀️ 😥 You are 100% corrent they don't compare. Lexus is better made more reliable car. If you want sporty lexus you have RCF,GSF, LC500 and soon to be released LC-F.
All cars depreciate a lot these days. Lease returns flood the market and there are new models coming out every year at discounted prices to keep the machine going. There are too many cars and not enough buyers.
@@mattstone8878 Well if you are buying a car for the needs to take your growing family to daycare, and soccer practice on your way to/from your job an S2000 or 4th Gen Supra won't cut it.
@@mattstone8878 Perhaps. But I have young kids and live in a neighborhood with lots of other kids running around. So what if you feel like the safety features in more current cars like "smart braking" or "cross-traffic alert" that might detect kids about to jump out in the street are important. Those things aren't available in 15 year old cars. You may be able to find them in later model used car, but not in a car 10+years old.
@@mattstone8878 Well i wouldn't call them all gimmicks. Do I NEED auto-braking... no. Btu if I'm shopping for a new car and that option is there, seems to work well and isn't an arm and a leg, why not. But put it this way, someone backed into my parked car a couple of years ago. While their insurance paid for my damages it was still a pain to deal with getting it fixed. If they had a backup camera and some backing sensors though, the accident would have been avoided (yes their dumb asses should have been paying more attention too). And surely having backup cameras has saved the lives of some toddlers who were running around behind a car who in years past may have tragically been hit. However unlikely the occurrence, the peace of mind of some of the features is worth it to many parents. And I drive my cars until they die so I don't worry too much about depreciation anyway. The cash I don't spend on buying/leasing a new car every few years has been invested for pretty nice returns.
@@mattstone8878 Sure but what about better technology for surviving crashes in newer cars versus older ones? What if you feel strongly about going electric for long term lower fuel costs and/or lower pollution?
I get what you are saying. Part of the reason I've kept my car as long as I have (12+ year old car I've had for 10) is because it's a manual transmission which are harder and harder to find and I still enjoy it. But my primary reason for thinking about a new car in the next couple of years is my growing family. Right now the kids are small enough to get in the back of my compact sports sedan with boosters/car seats etc. but it won't be practical in a couple of more years. My needs are much different with a family of four than when I was single and only worried about getting to work or taking a girl on a date. Needs change and priorities change. My finances are in great shape, so there's no reason I'd cram my kids in the back of a car too small for them when I can easily afford one that's better for them. If there happens to be safety or convenience technology available that seems practical, there no harm in getting parking/motion sensors, heated seats, blind spot monitors etc. if the value seems reasonable and I feel the features are usable. There's been a couple of times where our 3 year old has scared us by running out by our moving car to say bye when my wife or I were backing out of the garage. We are training him not to do that, and of course we are always on alert for the kids, but those things happen with kids, so if there is some tech that might help detect situations like that why not? (and of course we won't rely on them) Since I only buy a car every 12 years or so and haven't had a car payment in about 20 years now I tend to go ahead and option it like I want within reason knowing I plan to live with the car for at least a decade. Understand that some stuff is "gimmicky" or might be of limited use. But I'm not the type that goes buying/leasing a new car every 3 years just because of the latest gadget.
@@mattstone8878 Try taking off the horse blinders every now and then.
I didn’t learn this until after the fact. I bought a 2011 550i xDrive with the notorious N63 crap pile engine and the maintenance costs were unreal. Several repairs rapidly exceeded the vehicles value so I had to let it go after a year of ownership. Fantastic driver but when it was broken it was heartbreaking.
You mean when it was broken it was devastating
Not every point on this video is accurate.
1. How many BMW's if any cost $150,000?
2. An equally loaded Buick of the same year and class costs half of the BMW price. So BMW's don't depreciate like he's making it sound.
Here in Canada, several are there or close like the new m5, 850, 7 series etc
I enjoyed the video but I do think it would have been better to base your examples on pricing for 2, 3, and 4-series. They’re the most common and most frequently purchased models, and it may have been more relatable for most viewers, myself included.
If someone is investing in a $150k car, they probably aren’t overly concerned about depreciation costs.
Quite a lot of bimmers cost over 150k...
You have the m760i,the m850i,m4 gts,upcoming m8
And don't forget import taxes which the prices of those cars up significantly!
What's a Buick?
@@walkerforsyth6221 It's an alien spaceship.
My first BMW was an 87 325es and I just loved the way it drove. It was better than almost any other Japanese or American car I had driven. I ended up selling it for a truck for work and I kick myself for it every day. Ive been in love with BMW's ever since.I bought a 2013 activehybrid 3 this year and it is just an amazing car. My best friend bought a 2019 Hyundai accent and it doesnt even compare to my BMW that is 6 years older than it is, and even he admits it. Just realize that buying a used BMW comes with the reality that parts and repairs are just going to cost more so do your due diligence and keep up the maintenance on the car.
I totally agree. Once a person sees the light, they get hooked. Just be sure to buy a solid example.
I feel bad for those Technicians who went to special German schools, as they only do 2 things: perform basic service and write large estimates so customer can trade the junk in and buy a new car.
I've owned lots of second hand BMWs and never once had an issue. Maybe that's because I know how to spot a 🍋
Thats part of it. Research. Thanks for commenting.
ExoticCar PlayPlace I also feel a huge issue is that most leasers or at least a huge chunk of them either don’t care about taking care of their cars or are ignorant to learning to take basic care of their own transportation.
I spotted a 🍋 today at my grocery store it looked tasty
ExoticCar PlayPlace thanks for the reply mate and very informative video
Great for you =]
People are dumb. Japanese cars is the best cars for reliability
Aussie Shane Subaru is a japanese brand but are made in the us thats where they messed up
they're also amongst the most dangerous cars safety wise. its cheap plastic and soda can material.. if you have been in a Mercedes Benz during a car accident you wont be talking about reliability
Chevy hands down.
Yes they are....coming from a bimmer owner
German cars use plastic parts with their engine and electrical components. Additionally, if a small part breaks, you have to buy an entire assembly as they don't sell the small parts. Notice how German cars are held to lower standards than the Asian luxury brands in terms of reliability.
All these people saying they cost too much to maintain... I just bought a 2008 BMW E60 5 series (diesel) with 145,000 on the clock for 2.5k, runs beautifully with no issues.
i like how some people talk about BMW`s depreciation while you can get an 2010 impala for $3.000 in decent condition.
William Malamas ** but impala burns more gas **and BMW are very fast** KING of the highway"!!***
hebrew brown well, I owned an 08 impala that I never took care of and it never let me down. Great reliability,
Ride quality ? Scary.
I changed it for and 03 330i. It’s like 25% better on gas, faster, much nicer interior, better equipped, safer, better in insurance. I don’t even wanna talk about ride quality.
At least compare the BMW to the ‘96 Impala as far as car value. The real Impala.
A battery replacement cost me $600. I sold it and bought a new Tacoma instead.
I have driven $600 cars for years, cross country.
Lol my friend always said he would rather buy a Toyota than a Lexus cause it’s the same thing but cheaper.
Idk where you took it but they robbed you. I bought a battery from AutoZone for $170 and replaced it myself. They give you the tools to do it. Takes like 15 min.
@@MrJawshoouhh the dealership. They had to take apart the trunk to get to it. Over engineered imo
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. I'd stay away from Dealership, especially BMW, Audi, and Mercedes. Ugh
Get yourself a Japanese or Korean car for everyday driving. Get yourself a German car as your project car to enjoy it. Japanese luxury lines have figured out how to take what the Germans do and refined it even further.
Thank u. I have a 1999 Toyota Corolla that I drive to school and work. 0 problems. And I have a 2013 535xi Msport stage 2 for going out etc. works perfect for me and had 0 issues
Every BMW I've owned (3) have pissed oil after 3-5 years of ownership. Never again!
So did mine
Maybe I’m lucky but I bought my 5 series new in 2013 and still have it. Has 75k miles and virtually NOTHING has ever gone wrong other than a dead battery first week I owned it. Lucky I guess.
They’re not less reliable cuz of increased engineering. They’re less reliable cuz of planned obsolescence. Electronics are cheaply made to not last more than 5 years or so, electrical wiring is thin so that doesn’t last too long either and starts shorting out. Honda’s and Toyota’s don’t seem to have these problems and are built to last as long as possible
Hondas lol....the new ones are alot more problematic than you would think my man
@madPaulX nissan reliable? Uhhhh what? Perhaps a long long time ago. Nissans notors have as far as i can remember been absolute shit. Their general build quality is just ass too. Renault is not so good either haha that could not be any better for them to be owned by renault. Bmw btw rates very highly in recent years. In fact above honda/tied with honda....usually top 5.
@madPaulX europe idk from what i heard theyre good there. Here in canada theyre are shit. They rust to the ground as soon as you drive em off the lot. Cheap interiors that just fall apart, terrible paint and unreliable mechanical components right up to engines and transmisisons. Just bad cars overall. Theyd def do better if they sold diesels here but this is americas bitch so anything they do we do. And they wont allow cars that use half the fuel thar petrol uses lol.
Toyotas has much simpler wiring than german cars .Another thing is, Japanese engineers look at the flaws in other brands & prevent them from happening to theirs.
@@stefanfreestylez the older sentras & maximas up to 99 were more reliable than 2000 to present i owned 5 of them 2 84, 1 87 , 1 96& a 2004 & i never had any drive train problems only occasional alternator replacement or ign coil . the biggest issue with nissan is their bodies rust too quick
"Basic Honda's"...I laughed...
My 2 Honda's (Jazz, Accord) both 9+ years old, drives like new and never break down (electrically or mechanically) and always take me from A to Z.
Yes, i have bitten by buying another famous brand (non Japanese), however it spend more time in the car workshop than on the road..
I always tell people, buy one if your willing to spend on your Bimmer and like to maintain your car. I’ve done a lot of cosmetics on my 325i E46 and gotten everything done by a specialist who has worked on bmws since the 70s. They maybe very intimidating to some because of the status & rumors, but they’re are worth driving in the end...
OMG....E46 OWNER...3GANG GANG. GANG TELL IT BROTHER
Bought used 2012 335i x-drive in 2015. When it's paid off will probably trade in and lease. A really fun drive but the second the car went out of warranty the thing was in the shop.
I hear ya. Thats typical.
@Oroborus. I just traded in my 2011 328i xdr with 64,500 miles on it. After 8 years it was still running on al originals, and that shows reliability of some sort, but warranty went off at 60K (they do give good warranties) and the car started repair bills that were high even from an Indy. I am a female and can't work on cars if my life depended on it (thinking of becoming a trainee), and I could just visualize the yearly repair costs, maintenance costs, not to mention a pair of run flat tires every year (one year front pair, next year rears) and alignment. So since it wasn't paid off I couldn't justify these costs as am cash strapped. Got myself a Subaru Impreza (corners almost as well as the 3 series even though slower). But I do not much about the reliability of Subarus now, compared the well touted Hondas and Toyotas but the bought for the AWD and safety reputation in an economical package for my daily commuting needs.
All I can say, whoever buys my car or any low mileage maintained BMW should either have money set aside (3k a year for repair and maintenance) or have an excellent warranty or be able to fix and do a lot of it themselves. Don't see myself doing it. My car I had the longest was a SAAB. Lots of money on wear and tear but the car was paid for so setting aside 2400 a year was not a stretch. The Subaru is the first Japanese car I have bought in my 27 years here in the US.
Oroborus What problems did you run into ?
I'm picking up my 1st BMW ever tomorrow.... 2007 540i E60...
I confess I am a bit scared but I decided to go ahead with my leap of faith.... I just loved the car so much and I have accepted the fact that it will have to be maintained often and properly
Wish me luck
I've owned E28, E30, E36, E39 and E46 BMW's (all inline 6's). I've found the replacement parts to usually cost less than Toyota or Honda parts and really no more problems to work on than other brands. I, fortunately, have never had to rely on the dealerships for parts or service. Sure, there are sometimes things that are unreasonably difficult but that's true with any make, model or brand.
Great video as always.
I've been driving a Honda my whole life. I plan to replace my 8th generation Accord with a newer car soon. Since there are no more Accords in Europe, I started looking at other brands and BMW caught my eye. After a few weeks of research (of all German brands not just BMW) I feel like I woke up from a dream and came to reality where cars break down in ways unimaginable to me.
While driving a Honda, I have never encountered a real car breakdown. Annual maintenance like changing oil and filters, tires, brakes and the like is the only thing I have known so far. All my Hondas were more than familiar with high revs very often. And I never had a single problem.
It is clear to me that the more technology there is in a product, the more things can go wrong. But as far as I understand BMW has big problems with things that don't really have much to do with modern technology. By that I mean oil leaks and chain braking. These are problems with the basic engine parts that every car has.
I don’t understand how one company like BMW that has such top engineers and all the advanced technology is not able to make an engine that doesn’t leak oil from multiple places?
German car owners often praise their cars and say they are reliable. They say that they should be invested in and that they are reliable then. According to that philosophy, Alfa Romeo is also a reliable car when it is constantly invested in.
Don't get me wrong. I am not a fan or hater of any brand. I’m just trying as an average buyer to get an objective view of the market situation.
I like your channel. You gave me a lot of useful information. Thank you and keep up the great work. :-)
Honda Accords have lots of quality aftermarket support and also can handle as well as German cars. So not a bad choice.
A new BMW is a status of wealth, that's about it.
Because the luxury cars are over-engineered, meaning filled with expensive high-tech parts that will break and cost a ridiculous amount to repair. Plus, reliability is subpar on German cars after 100000 miles. These cars are meant for the 1%. If you are an average Joe and buy one used, you're a fool.
You're the fool, David. The 1% owns much nicer, exclusive cars - - Ferrari, lambo, Bentley, Maserati, Porsche. The problem with most of you people is that you're not comparing apples to apples. There is a huge range of quality between the models of benz and bmw. A 328i is absolutely nothing like a 335i. A 335i is absolutely nothing like a M3. The same is true with Benz, a CLA is a turd compared to any of the AMG cars. It's a performance oriented luxury car, yet you guys want it to be every bit as reliable as a FWD Honda 4 cylinder.
@@mec8351 I'll take the Honda. if that makes me a fool, so be it
@@davidstoyanoff that's a perfectly valid. I could buy a $40 running sneaker from Payless, but I choose to spend $135 on a sneaker from Nike. A lot of these things boil down to personal preference. It's also worth noting some of the wealthiest people I know drive things like GMC Yukons, not German at all.
They're all shit boxes
I always bought BMW, Audi / VW when living in Europe.
I moved to Thailand and bought a new Toyota Hilux pickup truck.
The engine looks simple and straightforward to work on and the electronics don't seem a nightmare where everything is programmed to each other like BMW or Audi/VW.
I would actually contemplate on buying a second hand Toyota, Honda or Lexus if I lived in Europe now.
What’s funny is that tons of comments in here about horrible service issues when honestly speaking service for most vehicles if not done by yourself or a buddy is high. I owned a Cobalt and spent
$400 on A/C repairs
$750 on Brakes
$500 on an alternators
$500 on coil module valve cover. Cars are just expensive nowadays. Pick your poison and deal with it.
True, I know friends with Chevy's that pay a ton for repairs. Whats with that ? ALL cars are pricey nowadays.
All that are labor hours. If you dont work on your own car, you will pay for convenience. Foreign cars such as Benz and BMW parts are limited stock here in the US unlike domestic where theres plenty of parts available. Japanese cars like honda and toyota are plentiful because of how common those cars are in the US. Also, BMW, Volkswagen, Mercedes have complex ways of builing there cars such as the batteries tucked away under so many plastic parts thus taking more time and labor to replace.
Rudy Salas I have friends that work at the US BMW plants which have been around for 5 years. The parts are stateside but if you don’t work on cars “in general” ALL MANUFACTURERS will make you pay a premium for parts and labor as of late.
This is why i only deal with lexus. Reliable and beautiful.
And slow as shit and as ugly looking as grandmas melanoma, if that's your thing then it works for you... but id rather not have to drive like a pussy for 10 years for reliability. Give me fun, if your concern is reliability why not stick with toyota, lexus makes no sense.
Jaguar F-type jaguar and bmw makes no sense and this shows in your resales value. Trash.
Jaguar F-type dang slow speed racer!!!
@@jaguarf-type2264 lol you have no taste in cars if all you look for is speed kiddo. Reliability is for people who buy their car not lease 😂😂😂
@@marcelrodriguez2067 who is leasing? You can check my other comments leasing is a bad idea all the way around? Im repair free for 5 years and 50k, a year better than lexus. If lexus is so reliable why don't they have the best warranty? I digress, when the car starts breaking down at 6 or 7 years, and it will i have no doubts, I'll trade it in for a $50k down payment on my new f type. Can't do that with a lease. I don't buy expensive cars for any other reason than FUN. If you drive like an old lady in a horribly under performing car why bother with something expensive? Get a toyota if that's your thing. To each their own, but i promise i have more fun.
Sounds like poor engineering to me. These cars seem to break down just as regular cars do. Parts are too expensive. Not worth it.
I dont know how the prices are where you live, but bmw parts at nice prices are avaleble most places. But ofcours if you go to the dealer and buy parts it will cost alot. But who does that anyways..
Its cheap as long as you are smart when buying parts. Ofcours they brake down, all cars breaks down.
@@Alpejohn I live in South Texas. Parts are usually cheaper here, but not for these cars.
@@davesaenz3732 I guess it depends on what you mean by cheap. But I have found several parts for great price in the Us, but shipping to Norway is pretty expensive. But buying from Germany is roughly the same price obly cheap er shipping. I never go to the dealer, they are really expensive..
If I ever buy a bmw, it will be 2001 and older. The style and quality and able to wrench isn’t there like it used to
Close...I'd argue 2003, last E39
You got that right...e46 and older
Id say e90 and older (xxxx-2011) super easy to work on
BMW Tech here
I see teenagers picking up these 100k+ BMWs for 4-8k thinking they’re top shit.
Good luck fixing it buddy $$😂😂😂
Thanks. In your opinion, is there a really bad one in your opinion
I reckon it has also something to do with not very pleasing design. Nobody wants to buy an ugly car. E60 and E61 were in my opinion last good looking models. After that it went downhill. Recently, I have bought E31 850CSi and even after 30 years, it looks stunning and costs quite a lot.
Agreed !
They would depreciate less if they would last long and not have endless costly repairs. This is Why!
Engines are made of plastic
Even the waterpumps
BMW is good to lease
Drive it like you stole it than get rid of it
Hello! First of all, congratulations for your interesting and detailed video about BMW cars depreciation. I agree with what you said in your video and also want to tell something about classic BMWs. I am the owner of a used 1989 BMW E30. I found it in a scrap yard and had to make a lot of repairs to the road. In spite of that, I can confirm that the level of reliability of this car is great, probably because of the lack of very complex technologies installed on it. The structure of the car is strong and well made, the certainty to go on driving this car for a very long time is just confirmed. I am happy with my BMW and wish all the last generation BMWs could reach the same level of reliability once again.
I love the E30 cars, for me that is my first experience with these cars, 325is, 325e, and m3 and loved each one for their own unique personality. Thanks for commenting snd joining the channel Jonni, it s great to hear from you. Have a great one. Cheers.
Great car. My first BMW. Lovely handling great to drive.
I think the older BMWs (pre 2000) were simple and the straight 6 cylinder engine was strong. They were also easy to work on. Now most cars are too complicated with too many ECUs that are all linked and talking to each other making diagnosis and fixes expensive for your DIY mechanic.
Comparing BMW to Toyota is like comparing a hobo to a businessman in a suit.
My dad owns a bmw 5 series from 2011 drives like a wet dream.
Very reliable, when I hear Audi BMW and Mercedes are not reliable I just laugh because either they lie or never owned one.
Buy a BMW motorcycle, no issues here.
BMW makes the BEST motorcycles! I own a 2017 S1000RR. It's a shame that their bikes are of higher quality than their cars.
@@bloodysinner9456 I own a BMW R1200C
Ive got a r nine t
My friends Z4 cost $380 to replace a headlight. I guess it’s quite a process to replace something so simple with a known lifespan.
Rick Manley i have an old volvo c30 everything is expensivenmy licht also costs that same amount
I absolutely agree with everything you said man, these vehicles are not cheap maintained, and it doesn’t seem to matter how many years go by they all still seem to have the same oil leaking issues, valve cover gaskets, oil filter housing gasket leak, oil cooler leak, oil pan leak, these are old maintenance issues that still remain on newer modern bmw, I think they should address these issues a long time ago.
Agreed!
Yup! was happening to my low mileage BMW E90 N52 from 2011. Couldn't afford repair and replacements, however much I loved the car.
True, however it seems German auto manufacturers are putting their engineering in the wrong things. My family has been driving Benzes for over 50 years. Up until the 1990s they turned out solidly engineered and reliable autos. Now they turn out spit n paste, unreliable junk for the lease market. Toyotas and Honda are over engineered, however have tolerances that make them much more reliable.
True, the German tolerances are still quite tight while many other brands are set loose so they wear well.
Hi Mister Meth and Mark, just want to weigh in. My friend owns a company that make stamped metal parts for most major auto manufacturers. He told me that Toyota is his favorite customer because they have very little oversight and have looser tolerances than GM and others (I couldn't remember the others). He said that GM used to send a bunch of suits (that is what he calls corp people:) to his factory floor to check up on him. Scotty Kilmer (a popular auto RUclipsr) said that Honda has gone well down hill and only considers Toyota and Ford (believe it or not) to be the best manufacturers. Regarding German cars, they have a lot of safety sensors because they are designed for 120 mph all day autobahn driving. I have driven Japanese cars most of my life and bought my X5 3.5d new in 2011 and think it is an amazingly solid car. Just wanted to share that info with you.
@@SBha30 Thank you. I watch Scotty too, however Scotty dings Honda for their automatic transmission reliability, because they build them in-house and do not subcontract them out. He always praises manual transmission Hondas. It should be noted that Aisin builds Toyota's transmissions and Toyota has an ownership stake in Aisin, so technically Aisin is kinda part of Toyota. I know many people who have auto-trans Hondas and they don't have any issues with them or their cars. For Honda transmissions, they strictly state & warn to use only Honda branded transmission fluid.
@@solid1378 You are very welcome. I know Scotty does ding Honda's transmission. I had a 1988 Acura Legend coupe L that I bought in 1991 which had transmission and CV joint issues for most of the time that I owned it which was thru 2000. That car had issues with leaking fluids. You name it and it leaked. I took it to the Acura dealer for everything service and mx action. My wife had a 1994 Honda Civic coupe which was completely trouble free til we sold it in 2001. My theory is to buy the mass appeal Honda or Toyota. For example, my Legend was a suped up Accord, so I should just buy the Accord. They larger mini vans and upscale cars are based on the mass appeal platforms which stresses the components.
@@SBha30 I agree. Hondas and Toyotas are not bulletproof and some of their models have had issues. Generally these are cars you want to buy, if you plan to keep them longer than 5 years. I know the new Honda 1.5 Turbo engines have a massive recall due to oil and coolant mixing and they appear to have resolved the issue. The general rule is never buy a first generation of anything, since you are the beta-tester guinea pig.
I own a 2008 BMW 760li, and a 2007 Mercedes S600 they both are damn good cars, but let me say this, They are not my everyday cars they are driven weekends and other occasions. I bought them used
I never buy brand new, “waste of money”
Plus I do have an automotive background
And that’s one of the reasons I’m not in car debt, I haven’t had a car payment in 17 years.
Drive a Lexus(boring) and you will realize why you loved driving a BMW in the first place. You gotta pay to play....gratefully I lease and release at 35,000 miles.....love driving BMW's....people want shit that doesn't break. Automotive science does not work that way.
Agreed 100 percent. Cheers
A smart person will always buy a Lexus
They really great vehicles
Lol.. Lexus is not in the same class as BMW or Mercedes-Benz
A Lexus is expensive to fix. Any foreign luxury car is expensive to own.
Reginal Ram their canary’s with 200 lbs sound deafening lol.., in Japan do you know their not #1 selling brand ??
Lexus is the most boring luxury brand.
i love my 09 e60 550i m-sport, best car i ever bought for under $10k. BMW’s are best bang for the buck if you can wrench on your cars.
Without a doubt.
But most of us, especially females can't do so.
@@tommikins1 no worries. Thanks for watching.
E39 5 series were even more bulletproof.
In the UK plenty of cars with 150k miles+ are Benz, BWWs, Volvo and Lexus.
When had to call breakdown guys for the Renault most said latest cars were more unreliable.
Treat yourself find a classic, well loved M or AMG whatever you won't be disappointed
Biggest mistake of my life bought a used bimmer from a dealership. Gave me nothing but unreliability, some of it was my fault. It was getting older. I just wish i could sell it. Carfax is Bullsh** too i found out that it had front end damage after i purchased the vehicle
You are absolutely right, but I dont think that they "forget" how to build reliable parts. If they are able to engineer high performance they are perfectly capable of doing it the other way round in terms of reliability. The only thing is: they dont make money if they build cars which last forever. As long as people are willing to pay the money, they are going to continue to build expansive, high performance cars which brake down after a couple of years and cost a hell of a lot to maintain
I have a 2009 BMW 535i twin turbo and that Car will fly. I've had it for 6 years, no major problems. If you cannot afford the maintenance don't buy it and only let a certified BMW technician work on your car. Barbarian Motor Works the ultimate driving machine. I ❤ BMW the smell of that German leather the ride the look the speed YESSSSS !
That’s why I drive them too
A well maintained BMW is very reliable ... that's not why people lease them ... it's so they can swap it out with the current / new model every 3-4 years, as they want the latest and greatest. You can extend the warranty of a BMW to 7y/125k for 5% of the cost of the car, so if people want to keep it that long , they can (it's also transferable). All of the Germans now have a mid life cycle refresh just because of this, so after 3-4 years there will be a update (911 991.1 -> 991.2, BMW x to X LC) etc. Adding subtle styling changes, power bump and new tech.
So for a $60k 540i you pay $4,800 up front, for 7 year maintenance, replacement of wear and tear parts (brakes etc.), and extended warranty for unexpected broken parts (like water pump, turbos etc.).
The BMW Ultimate Care program covers all factory-recommended scheduled maintenance services as determined by the Service Interval Indicator for all new eligible model year 2017 and later BMWvehicles. ... The maintenance coverage period is for the first 3 years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first.
This mean for $685/year you have full maintenance, full warranty and replacement of wear and tear elements, inside 7 years / 125,000 miles.
And 3 year old they sell for around $39,000, so dropped 35% ... pretty much the same as a Toyota Corolla ...
Now if you take an M3/M5 they do drop more, as they will be $100k + and people might drive them harder, knowing this they want a new or low mileage car, but same goes for any high-risk car.
The other part is that the cars (high-end) are driven much harder than your 1.2L Toyota, which mean more load on all parts, and even if they are engineered 'better' they do wear faster, and if you do not maintain them properly they will wear/fail more frequent, but if you drive your M3 like an old lady it will be as reliable as your grandmas Lincoln Town car ...
Yes, the BMW E60 M5 was / is known for the rod bearings ... guess what ... people keep revving these cars when cold, when the parts are not heated up and oil is slow flowing doing a ton of wear and tear of the car. I have a E92 M3 (same issue), but my rod bearings look pristine ... why? I never sat and revved the car to show off, or more than 25% throttle till the car was warmed up, did all the maintenance, use of proper oil, and hence ... 0 issues ... (only issue I had was broken A/C but that was due to hitting a deer, and it was not discovered that metal parts had come into the A/C unit, so it broke down ... covered by insurance, but did add a huge additional cost (as the engine had to be removed to re-do all the A/C parts). Other than that ... my tank-lid lock worn out ($17 to replace, did that myself), and my passenger side window button did not go up, but a blast of compressed air fixed that as well (car is now 11 years old and still running strong and fun). Would I have bought one used ? NEVER ... because I know a lot of people don't know how to break in and run a high-performance car (lot of US cars people like to run hard during run-in period), I even asked Porsche specialist (when taking European delivery, and he said, no follow the break in instructions, they are there for a reason ...).
I would state/claim that lot of this is urban legend, and people are always pointing to the M cars (that have been driven as they were stolen). Granted there have been specific issues that BMW missed due to lack of tests, but in general they have honored fixing these, even up to 8 years after new (my previous M3 E46 had known issues with cracks in the sub-frame ... BMW fixed that at no cost when car was 8 years old).
Edit: As of 2014/2015 Ultimate Care+ are no longer transferable.
Thanks for sharing, yes great point once you are in the system it is easier to stay there. Cheers
BMW ULTIMATE CARE coverage is not transferable.
BMW has cut down the coverage for model year 2017 or later.
When you own The Ultimate Driving Machine®, you should get the service to match. All new MY17 BMW vehicles and newer come with BMW Ultimate Care. BMW Ultimate Care consists of scheduled maintenance for the 3-year/36,000 mile (non-transferable), whichever comes first.
@@dennis007 You are 100% correct (I sit corrected). I mixed my BMW and Porsche extended warranties (Porsche is transferable, BMW is not (even say so "Cars after 2014/2015 Ultimate Care is no longer transferable"), which is a pity, as I would assume people are less hesitant to buy a car private if they got 1y+ warranty with it ...
Of course... BMWs design flaws are the fault of whoever buys them.
@@future62 Yes, the same way as eating soup with a fork, is the users fault.
2006 BMW 750i,the worst car I ever owned.
What do you expect for old 7 series?
The same thing happens to old mercedes S-class
Electronics over time getting fucked and parts needs to be change due to lean manufacture tactic from car manufactures.
Now parts don't last 30years but maybe 5-6 years, especially in German cars.
This is also came from reverse logistics and business tactics from cars manufactures.
Here in center Europe german cars are better built then this in US so if you can get car from europe if you can.
If you want realible car get Lexus/Toyota or maybe Honda.
Scotty once told me
"Rev up your Engines" 🤣
I bought my 650 new in 2008, it's had zero issues and I still love it. The depreciation on it is crazy though, makes no sense to buy new.
The only people complaining that BMW’s aren’t reliable have probably never owned one.
Agreed !
I also agree as well my 330i xdrive haven't broken down the past 146000 miles
My 328i left me broken down once and I have owned for 3 years! btw it was just a battery change nothing serious and im around 160k right now
Agreed!! I have a 2010 535i standard tranny with a 3 liter twin turbo and I absolutely love it!! Very fun car to drive!
Why are people willing to part with so much money for brands like BMW and Land Rover? Not that they are the only questionable brands or that these vehicle themselves are bad but really? I live in Los Angeles and there are many cool expensive cars sitting idle with me in traffic. How often are these high performance cars driven at their limits in metro areas? Maybe for a 15-20 seconds on a sweeping turn or an acceleration burst to 85 MPH? Unfortunately, the USA does not have an Autobahn or Autostrada to drive these cars like they were designed for and I don’t know of any late model LR owner that actually off roads or overlands. Unless you autocross or off-road regularly, this brief moment of vehicle enjoyment is probably less than 1 percent of your total ownership time.
As a BMW huge fan i am very happy that bmw very depreciate cause i bought my used one a BMW 116i F20 for very low cost and now i want to switch for a BMW 330i E92 which is the same price actually.
BMW best cars and not too expensive hehe nice
Thanks Kevin for watching and yes, there are some great values out there.
My thoughts exactly, I purchased a delivery miles M4 that was pre registered saving £15k!!! That’s the way to do it! 👍
You pay a premium for the car, parts service etc but the BMW's are still not as reliable than Japanese or Korean cars. That is why the demand is low and the supply is high. Owners or leasers are not keeping them longer and brand loyalty is in decline. Check the numbers in the last 5 years, new car ownership of BMW's are stagnant or dropping year over year compared to premium Japanese manufacturers.
Not sure where this guy got the idea that only BMW service dept can fix your BMW. There are many non BMW auto shops can fix them too. BMW charges you more per hour to fix the car. Issue is the cost of the part. Throttle Body should not cost $750 to replace. It’s a small module. BMW typically loses 45 to 50% of its value after 3 years.
All luxury cars depreciate rapidly unless they're pretty rare or a collectors item.
True
dhalsim1 not a Lexus
Max Park Lexus has about the same depreciation rate
Lexus hold their value!!!!!
@footballcoreano you're the first person I've heard said something so stupid. Japanese cares last forever. You must be from Poland
Because customers have to install aftermarket turn signals
I think i will keep my facelift e46 forever, I love that thing so much it’s insane
Great fun cars, especially the 330
I really don’t know but M3’s and M4’s hold their value pretty well u cant find a cheap car from 5 years ago
This year has been an anomoly
The one thing I've learned in life is to not overspend for a house or a car. I wish I could go back and tell this to my younger self.
Don’t buy a race horse if you can’t feed it. Simple. BMW ❤️❤️❤️❤️ them.
Man I love my F30 all these people are haters i tell you
The answer is plastic engine parts designed to fail just after the warranty expires.
German is the master of over engineering. Most ppl i know buying german cars are real estate agent, insurance agent and vanity kids.
I went shopping for a used car for my college daughter.
1. 2005 Toyota Highlander AWD ~$30K new. Now $5000.
2. 2008 BMW X5 ~$60K new. Now $5000.
Which car did I choose? Highlander of course.
My 525i with only 156K it’s falling apart unless I’m willing to spend tons of money to replace very expensive parts.
My Toyota vehicles (Avalon, Highlander, Sienna, Supra, Prius, Camry) all run flawlessly with minimal maintenance even at 250k miles or more.
I still take my 2005 Sienna with 276K miles on road trips. The Sienna still have original engine, transmission, AC, fuel injection, suspension, main electrical systems, fuel pump and paint.
Can’t speak the same for my other brands from three different continents including other Japanese brands.
Sounds like you have made your choice. Toyota is a great brand, but so is BMW. Both have troubled areas but search for the right car either way and you should be good to go.
Dude you are SO correct. Once the car is past the first three years they're not reliable. I'm going through that now. I bought a used low mileage 750Li. The price was great and the carfax, maintenance and manufacturer recalls were all good. So I bought the car. Two days later I got a check engine light. As of this post I've owed the car less than 30 days and I'm on my 3rd check engine light. I'm already scared as hell to drive it. I'm going to get rid of it as soon as I can. I'm going to take a huge loss on it unfortunately, but I'll have piece of mind.
I'LL NEVER EVER BUY ANOTHER BMW.
Unfortunately some have some real issues but who knows sometimes those check engine lights are not a major
@@ECPP true that they are not always a major issue, but in my case I've had 3 in less than a month. It's annoying.
Because new BMW's look like ones that were made 5 years ago.