I really enjoyed your review, for me the best I have seen on the M11s. I particularly appreciated the fact that you did not start dwelling on the difference in the mids, in the treble and whatever between the S and the plus, but that you honestly admitted that they sound about the same to normal (i.e. vast majority) of ears. Thank you.
Same. For me, different DACs ofcourse have different characters (and personally I can differetiate many of them), but it's not that different as many people state😂 I think people are simply have different opinion about how different is different enough 😂
Top Review!! The following is also quite important to mention. The latest Firmware for the 11S enables to stream bit-perfect using Roon. The first reasonable (actually Low-) priced DAP that's able to do so. Just like Astell&Kern DAP's only much faster and at lower costs. The M11S is just like the Astell&Kern DAP's officially .labeled as "Roon Ready" by Roonlabs
It's cool to see you doing DAP reviews. It's too bad you weren't sent a review unit of the upcoming TempoTec V6 which has similar specs to this (Android 8 though) at $279 right now. Incredible value.
I was about to post a question asking whether we'll ever see hardware comparable to this in the $350 or less range. So many thanks for mentioning it. Do you know of any communities/forums dedicated to this unit?
R2R at this small body is rather marketing then reality :) If you will read a little bit about real R2R you will realise that it's about unreal to implement the technology in such a small case.
Great review as always! Quick question : I stream lossless files from Apple music. I use eq. Is there a system wide eq on this player (or the ibasso players) where I can use for Apple music? Also does poweramp work in this player in which its eq settings will work on Apple music?
you can listen through albums folders by activating listen through folders in the fiio music player settings or sth like that. That way it will play album after album of the same artist by itself.
It will play all the albums of one artist and then move to next artists albums. Basically it plays everything in order without stopping . At least you dont have to manually move from album to album.
Nicely Done. You hit 98% of my questions unheard of :) Does the fact that M11S has 3 gigs of ram mean better speed compared to the Hiby R5G2 2 gigs while streaming or is it all in the processor ? and Do either run very warm with balanced connections ? Thanks in advance
I'm sure the RAM helps but hard to know how much. The player never got warm for me, but I did not use balanced connectors for long -- I tend to prefer 3.5mm.
How is the shuffle music option, I noticed my android phone music player sucks under the shuffle...ipod mastered the shuffle option if I had a 1000 songs Ipod would start from 1 and shuffle every song in the library until reaching 1000 songs while my android will repeat songs already played in shuffle 😑
Hello, I'm a beginner in this field. I know that these devices work best with headphones (I have a Sony XM4). My question is: do these devices work with the new Bose ultra headphones? Thanks 🙏🏼
Ok, I used to be an iPod fan but, obviously, no more. I had the HiBy Gen 5 but the battery wouldn't stay in the unit and the backing would not go on. I wont be streaming music and prefer just to put my chip in and listen to my music. Should I try the Fiio M11S or keep searching? I want good sound and the only time battery life might be a problem would be on long flights. But even on long flights, I alway carry a charger. So....what do you all think? $500 is about my price limit. Thanks
No Coaxial Digital adapter which has been included in every Fiio DAP since the X5iii. Not sure why they would do that as those are extremely difficult to find online. I think they drop the ball on that one 🏀
Im looking to buy the m11 ess but now that I saw your review I have a question, if money is not a problem witch one you would pick? The M11S or the M11 ESS Considering that sound is the only thing that matters and you want to use files and Apple Music in to it Thanks again your review help me consider this player
What characteristics of an IEM in terms of sound am I looking for when choosing the best one for for watching a movie? Which IEM would you recommend? EDIT: Maybe make a video about this?
Feel anything? If you're asking about sound quality, it makes literally zero difference if you're using the Fiio or Pixel and you're using a Bluetooth headphone / TWS.
Hi, I just bought this device and i'm having trouble inserting the sd, is there any trick? It gets twisted before going all the way in and it just feels wrong
Hi, how did you manage to transfer your folders with the music to the internal storage memory ? I can send only single mp3 or flac tracks through WiFi Transfer but not the entire folders. The system does not copy folders. Thanks !
I use an app called Drive Sync to automatically sync my music library over Google Drive. If you don't use Google Drive, just eject the memory card and use a memory card reader.
Is a DAP capable to play dap through a home stereo receiver? (either via bluetooth or hard wired in) Never owned a DAP. I just use my phone for streaming.
@@Skoozatz, my understanding is if you are hardwired you will benefit from the DAC inside the DAP and do not suffer the compression inherent in Bluetooth connections.
How is the shuffle music option, I noticed my android phone music player sucks under the shuffle...ipod mastered the shuffle option if I had a 1000 songs Ipod would start from 1 and shuffle every song in the library until reaching 1000 songs while my android will repeat songs already played in shuffle 😑
I initially didn't like it, UI seemed too flashy and took wayyyy too many settings to get it to look how I like, but when I discovered that you can export and import settings, that reduced my anxiety about customization... and now I've got it customized super simple and I love it.
Mid-tier android phone with SD slot and 3.5" jack still makes more sense than this to me. The Redmi 11Pro I'm rocking 350GB of CD quality audio (on an SD card), runs smoother, gets constant app updates, and has more than enough power for IEMs and common, portable headphones. The home screen on my dap-phone is just Qobuz, Plexamp and Audible. Its for those three apps and runs them well. I don't have a SIM card in it. Wi-Fi is enough.
Bro why do you say we can't hear differences between dap? Between daps, there are differences of sonic performance, they sound differently, with their own sound signature, because dap has a high tier dac and a factory tuning. Nowadays it is not subjective anymore, they can be measured quantitatively (using audio graph). It is like wearing glasses. Dap is the frame and the iem/headphone is the lens. Dap sets the baseline quality of the source production using their embedded DAC (this DAC is why they sound differently), just like the glasses so u can see through the lens. Then you listen to the source using iem, just like the lens in the glasses to perceive visual objects, which affects hugely on how you perceive the auditory stimulation of the music. Dap contributes to sound performance you will hear, but not as much as the cans. I own m11s after carefully auditioning between different dap, and m11s has this reference/analytical sound sig which some avg users probably won't like (which I like because I love analytical listening, but I wont break my bank account). Hey there is no one shirt that fits all in audio, people hear differently with their own taste.
I expect that if you listened to the M11S vs. another DAP in a blind A-B scenario with volumes matched, you would not confidently say that the M11S sounds more reference/analytical than the other. It would be hard to even tell them apart, let alone make that distinction.
@@SuperReview to sensitive ear no, and I have very sensitive ear which costs me a lot when purchasing my audio gear. I have used Shanling, Tempotek, older Fiio generations, Xduoo, HiBy, and yes they sound significantly different. It is also subjective, but to sensitive ear, it makes my wallet cry
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I really enjoyed your review, for me the best I have seen on the M11s. I particularly appreciated the fact that you did not start dwelling on the difference in the mids, in the treble and whatever between the S and the plus, but that you honestly admitted that they sound about the same to normal (i.e. vast majority) of ears. Thank you.
I like how you were honest and said its hard to differentiate between different dac and amps. Good review, thanks.
Same. For me, different DACs ofcourse have different characters (and personally I can differetiate many of them), but it's not that different as many people state😂 I think people are simply have different opinion about how different is different enough 😂
Good delivery and screen presence conveying a colloquial review that everyone can comprehend, audiophile or just general consumer.
Nihilism when?
Cheers 🤙
Top Review!! The following is also quite important to mention. The latest Firmware for the 11S enables to stream bit-perfect using Roon. The first reasonable (actually Low-) priced DAP that's able to do so. Just like Astell&Kern DAP's only much faster and at lower costs. The M11S is just like the Astell&Kern DAP's officially .labeled as "Roon Ready" by Roonlabs
I bought a hiby r6 2020 and all I can say is, the apple dongle is such great value for money
Customizable buttom is FANTASTIC!!! I could map it to the mute function if commercials come on!
It's cool to see you doing DAP reviews. It's too bad you weren't sent a review unit of the upcoming TempoTec V6 which has similar specs to this (Android 8 though) at $279 right now. Incredible value.
I was about to post a question asking whether we'll ever see hardware comparable to this in the $350 or less range. So many thanks for mentioning it.
Do you know of any communities/forums dedicated to this unit?
@@BeyondFunction1 the m11s is currently on sale for $398 at Apos
The DAP is Hiby RS2, the only thing missing is Bluetooth. Sound, R2R, DAC, portability made this to the killer DAP and a must have.
RS2 looks interesting, but would be hard for me to give up Android at this point.
R2R at this small body is rather marketing then reality :) If you will read a little bit about real R2R you will realise that it's about unreal to implement the technology in such a small case.
A little late to the DAP party, but do you think the M11s is still worth getting at ~$350 brand new?
Yes
Fiio M17 does in fact, have a full size 6.3mm jack. it is amazing
Hot.
You are the best! Thanks for your reviews
Thanks for the Review. I can not decide if i want the M11s or M11 Plus. I only use it for Tidal :)
M11S IMO
Does the m11s has bit-perfect to download loseless music from apple music? Thanks
Glad that the R5 mk 2 case that I sent could work as a stand-in for the DAP itself 😂
Impressive Review !
Great review as always!
Quick question : I stream lossless files from Apple music. I use eq. Is there a system wide eq on this player (or the ibasso players) where I can use for Apple music? Also does poweramp work in this player in which its eq settings will work on Apple music?
you can listen through albums folders by activating listen through folders in the fiio music player settings or sth like that. That way it will play album after album of the same artist by itself.
Will it go from one artist to the next? My past experience with settings behaves like that.
It will play all the albums of one artist and then move to next artists albums. Basically it plays everything in order without stopping . At least you dont have to manually move from album to album.
Nicely Done. You hit 98% of my questions unheard of :)
Does the fact that M11S has 3 gigs of ram mean better speed compared to the Hiby R5G2 2 gigs while streaming or is it all in the processor ?
and Do either run very warm with balanced connections ?
Thanks in advance
I'm sure the RAM helps but hard to know how much. The player never got warm for me, but I did not use balanced connectors for long -- I tend to prefer 3.5mm.
Great job!
How is the shuffle music option, I noticed my android phone music player sucks under the shuffle...ipod mastered the shuffle option if I had a 1000 songs Ipod would start from 1 and shuffle every song in the library until reaching 1000 songs while my android will repeat songs already played in shuffle 😑
Hello, I'm a beginner in this field. I know that these devices work best with headphones (I have a Sony XM4). My question is: do these devices work with the new Bose ultra headphones? Thanks 🙏🏼
Can I trade my Fiio M11 and 6 Burritos for the M11S?
At today's burrito prices, maybe.
Excellent review. My new DAP!
What was your old DAP?
@@SuperReview ...as for me I have the Fiio x5iii and want to buy M11S some day. Don't know if this good idea.
I really liked your review and am having trouble in deciding between the Fiio M11s or the Shanling MX3 ultra. Please can you help.
M11S.
Am I going to notice a huge difference between my fiio btr5 usb dac switching to a DAP?
Ok, I used to be an iPod fan but, obviously, no more. I had the HiBy Gen 5 but the battery wouldn't stay in the unit and the backing would not go on. I wont be streaming music and prefer just to put my chip in and listen to my music. Should I try the Fiio M11S or keep searching? I want good sound and the only time battery life might be a problem would be on long flights. But even on long flights, I alway carry a charger. So....what do you all think? $500 is about my price limit. Thanks
I would get your Hiby R5G2 replaced -- thats my favorite DAP at the moment.
How is the sound compared to the Fiio M11S?
These things all sound basically the same, I wouldn't consider it.
Hi, really cool video thanks. So does this device support spotify downloads at a high quality please?
It supports whatever the Android Spotify app does.
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How many are there? M11, M11+, M11 Pro, now M11s?
Your music taste 🔥 saw still corners and tennis
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No Coaxial Digital adapter which has been included in every Fiio DAP since the X5iii. Not sure why they would do that as those are extremely difficult to find online. I think they drop the ball on that one 🏀
It can still output a digital signal ?
I misplaced mine at one point and contacted fiio directly and they made arrangements to send me one. Took maybe 3 weeks and about $10.
@@pitou115 Yes, but they don’t include the coaxial digital adapter for some strange reason.
@@drrckhamilton Yes, but the adapter probably cost them like $5 and should be included.
What would you recommend as a dap for rational people, who cannot hear a difference in soundsource if output power is (matched) the same?
That's not a lot of parameters for a recommendation. My favorite lately is the Hiby R5G2.
@@SuperReview There are talks about upcomming R3 (gen2) by hiby. I appreciate smaller form factor more
Fiio x5iii ...')
Will there be a review of a newer Sony Walkman in the Future?, most players reviewed here are Fiio DAC's and the reviews are pretty detailed and good.
I reviewed the A105, they only newer Sony DAP is outside my price range. ruclips.net/video/1dF_YBuskZg/видео.html
Da pra conectar em um amplificador externo sem uso de Bluetooth (via cabo USB ou RCA) ?
Im looking to buy the m11 ess but now that I saw your review I have a question, if money is not a problem witch one you would pick? The M11S or the M11 ESS
Considering that sound is the only thing that matters and you want to use files and Apple Music in to it
Thanks again your review help me consider this player
There's not really a difference between them on sound. For daily life, I'd probably take the M11s because it's smaller.
Do the controls work for any app or just the stock app? Also, do the equalizer settings work for all apps or just the stock app?
Buttons work with all apps I've tried. I forget if there's system-wide EQ or not.
@@SuperReview Thanks.
What characteristics of an IEM in terms of sound am I looking for when choosing the best one for for watching a movie? Which IEM would you recommend?
EDIT: Maybe make a video about this?
Not my area of experience, I'm not much of a movie watcher. Sounds like genre-based recommendations, which I generally don't agree with TBH.
how is the Android? I have the Fiio X5, it's very very slow
Hi. Exist a one click app to transfer some flac to Android smartphone to Fiio player m9 or similar (playstore app) that save in sd card ?
Thx u
I have a pixel 6a with apple music lossless music and beat studio bud +. Do you think I'm going to be able to feel anything with that fiio ?
Feel anything? If you're asking about sound quality, it makes literally zero difference if you're using the Fiio or Pixel and you're using a Bluetooth headphone / TWS.
What is the best app that you can use to get music any kind of file with easy interface
does the Fiio screen has feature like Tap Knock on/off?
Yes, both M11S and M11 Plus have tap to wake.
Hi, I just bought this device and i'm having trouble inserting the sd, is there any trick? It gets twisted before going all the way in and it just feels wrong
glass need for better wireless connectivity
Yeah, seems like there are alternatives to all-glass backs though. I covered mine in leather.
Will this be a huge upgrade from hipdac? Any differences in terms of soundstage, dynamic and sonic?
No, wrong reason to get a DAP IMO.
Fiio m11s v/s shanling m3 ultra, which is better?
Full review of M3 Ultra this week, with that comparison 👍
@@SuperReview super excited for the video!!!
Think I use the m3 pro it’s ok for me with ea3 studio monitors
It's a solid entry level DAP 👍
Hi, how did you manage to transfer your folders with the music to the internal storage memory ? I can send only single mp3 or flac tracks through WiFi Transfer but not the entire folders. The system does not copy folders. Thanks !
I use an app called Drive Sync to automatically sync my music library over Google Drive. If you don't use Google Drive, just eject the memory card and use a memory card reader.
Yes, this is clear. But what about internal memory ? Is it possible to transfer files there instead of memory card ?
@@Artur-go8rk Mmm, not sure, I haven't tried.
Do this DAP has the blue led power indicator power button like the M11 Plus???
Yes, and you can turn it off.
What is the ranking on these m11's?
Is a DAP capable to play dap through a home stereo receiver? (either via bluetooth or hard wired in)
Never owned a DAP. I just use my phone for streaming.
I've connected to a stereo through 3.5mm to RCA connector before. Bluetooth will work if your receiver has Bluetooth receiving capability.
Excellent point and great insight! Out of curiosity, does this hold true if using WiFi (or hard wired) rather than Bluetooth? @@aDistantLight
@@Skoozatz, my understanding is if you are hardwired you will benefit from the DAC inside the DAP and do not suffer the compression inherent in Bluetooth connections.
Glorified iPod? For folks that have to have harder driving headphones on the go? Thanks for the review.
Yeah, good for hard to drive headphones. iPod was great, but I think modern players have a lot on it.
How is the shuffle music option, I noticed my android phone music player sucks under the shuffle...ipod mastered the shuffle option if I had a 1000 songs Ipod would start from 1 and shuffle every song in the library until reaching 1000 songs while my android will repeat songs already played in shuffle 😑
Can you run all songs at 32khz on this?
How many hours of playback/burn-in do you run on any DAP before making a sound review?
0
May want to revisit that approach.@@SuperReview
I'm good.
@@SuperReview You’re actually average at best…
@@AMG-BENZ-1If you're trying to neg me into dating you, it won't work.
How does it fare vs Shanling M3X?
Never used M3X.
POWER AMP 🔥❤🔥
I initially didn't like it, UI seemed too flashy and took wayyyy too many settings to get it to look how I like, but when I discovered that you can export and import settings, that reduced my anxiety about customization... and now I've got it customized super simple and I love it.
Mid-tier android phone with SD slot and 3.5" jack still makes more sense than this to me. The Redmi 11Pro I'm rocking 350GB of CD quality audio (on an SD card), runs smoother, gets constant app updates, and has more than enough power for IEMs and common, portable headphones. The home screen on my dap-phone is just Qobuz, Plexamp and Audible. Its for those three apps and runs them well. I don't have a SIM card in it. Wi-Fi is enough.
Same situation with an lg phone (if you already had one lying around like me) and the fiio btr7 or q3 plugged into it. Save yourselves some money
The DAC in the Redmi is worse. It’s worse than any dongle.
Thank you for the review. Can the youtube music app be installed? thanks
Yep.
Bro why do you say we can't hear differences between dap?
Between daps, there are differences of sonic performance, they sound differently, with their own sound signature, because dap has a high tier dac and a factory tuning. Nowadays it is not subjective anymore, they can be measured quantitatively (using audio graph).
It is like wearing glasses. Dap is the frame and the iem/headphone is the lens. Dap sets the baseline quality of the source production using their embedded DAC (this DAC is why they sound differently), just like the glasses so u can see through the lens. Then you listen to the source using iem, just like the lens in the glasses to perceive visual objects, which affects hugely on how you perceive the auditory stimulation of the music.
Dap contributes to sound performance you will hear, but not as much as the cans.
I own m11s after carefully auditioning between different dap, and m11s has this reference/analytical sound sig which some avg users probably won't like (which I like because I love analytical listening, but I wont break my bank account).
Hey there is no one shirt that fits all in audio, people hear differently with their own taste.
I expect that if you listened to the M11S vs. another DAP in a blind A-B scenario with volumes matched, you would not confidently say that the M11S sounds more reference/analytical than the other. It would be hard to even tell them apart, let alone make that distinction.
@@SuperReview to sensitive ear no, and I have very sensitive ear which costs me a lot when purchasing my audio gear. I have used Shanling, Tempotek, older Fiio generations, Xduoo, HiBy, and yes they sound significantly different. It is also subjective, but to sensitive ear, it makes my wallet cry
If you want to save yourself some money, have someone help you with a blind listening test.
DAP battery test! sir
its almost 500usd from where I am
Does the eq work on the apple music ?
I don't think it has system-wide EQ.
plays flac files?
All day.
20 mins before you start to talk about sound…..how about starting with that?
Why?