Sam Harris on Israel, Islam, and the end of Woke Ideology
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Sam Harris has been right about Islam, Islamism and Jihadism from September 12th, 2001. Thanks Jasmine for your great podcast!
he's been right but I think he's still downplaying it to this day. but we're starting to see the ugly face of the monster more and more now.
that the west did it
False. He, along with a host of 9/11 liberals, have given intellectual heft to the idea of committing violence towards Muslims. In the time that Sam Harris has railed against There have been genocides against 4 distinct Muslim populations with the Western world's acceptance: The Uighurs, the Rohingya, Yemen, Syria and now the people of Gaza. Sam Harris' place in history is cemented as the Sophist for Islamaphobes.
He's been right about pretty much everything. Lmao
@@ahsenkhan5386there's the voice of responsibility that your part of the world is so well known for!
I grew up in a conservative Jewish zionist household with a family that survived the holocaust. We routinely worked with Jewish and Palestinian peace organizations and we had Palestinian students stay at my house on Exchange programs. Some of my Fondest Memories of that time were sitting in my room playing Magic the Gathering together. We are Lifelong members of the JNF, planting forests in Israel and building bomb proof playgrounds in Sderot, which have now been destroyed. I used to go to the Palestine protests back in 2007/2008 because how could one not sympathize with how some of these people live. Back then it was around 20 to 30 people at the protests. Oh how times have changed!
Then I REALLY wanted to get the inside scoop, and got the blessing to do so when I moved in with Palestinian/Syrian roommates for 3 years. They taught me islam. I fasted Ramadan. I learned their stories. Families caught in the middle of multiple wars, bombed multiple times, and finally fled safely to the United States.
To say that that experience shot me 180° back to my Jewish/Zionist roots is an understatement. The sheer amount of hate, vitriol, and antisemitism in the Muslim Community is beyond astonishing. Regular sermons from multiple Imams on ideologies of martyrdom, jihad, creating as much violence as possible in order to claim some land back. Repeated Holocaust denial and conspiracy theories from old antisemitic tropes. Horrific views of women/LGBT/people that weren't Muslim. If I had heard any teachings of these things from my Jewish community I guarantee you I would still be standing next to these people on the streets today protesting Israel.
The things I value as a liberal person do not grow under Islamic regimes. They grow under democracy. While I'm no apologist for Israel and her many mistakes, there is no moral equivalence to the hatred and inequality spread in Islamist societies and the diversity and inclusion that is attempted in Israel and the west
Wonderful comment! Thank you
Sorry to hear you were subjected to this hatefulness - in the US? My experience of the current massacre in Gaza is that many Jewish friends stand against it, and that Muslim friends recognize this and insist that they are anti-Zionist/Israeli-govt, but believe in full respect for Jews and how important it is to draw the distinction. But this is Cape Town - we tend to have our deep chats while hiking🕊️🥰🏞️
@@zetristan4525 Yes this is in the US. I found similar surface-level sentiments from Muslims/Palestinians I've talked too (a couple hundred) but once I dug a little deeper in my questioning some very scary opinions came out.
My go-to comparison from my experiences (if i had to consolidate everything into a nutshell) was when I was a kid during the 2nd intifada there was a rally for Israel at the JCC near my house. One man had a sign that said "Death to the Arabs". My mother quickly saw it and explained to me how wrong this was, the group around us swarmed him and kicked him out.
When I was living in the Muslim community, there would be multiple entire prayer sessions in mosque dedicated to the 'cleansing of the Yahud' and the liberation of Palestine.
I wish I had an answer for evil. But yes my brother may we all have the blessing to get outside and enjoy nature together🥰🥰🥰🌲🌲🌲!!!
Thanks for sharing your experience
Have you not heard the hatred coming out of the mouths of normal every day Israeli kids and adults alike? Not to mention their politicians and rabbis...It is clear that this goes both ways so why try to make out it's a Muslim thing? Besides, who holds all the power here? and who is oppressing who? Don't you think the oppressed people have a right to be pissed off? Meanwhile, the oppressors manufacture utter lies in their hideous propaganda to try to justify their murderous campaign.
As an Iranian woman who was born and raised in Iran, I tell you that Islam is not a phobia, Islam is a trauma. It has always been a question for me, why these students have never protested against gender apartheid, death sentences for non-Muslims, pedophiles and thousands of anti-human acts that are being implemented in this religion?
Ironically, for people who discuss how minorities within minorities suffer in unique ways from the same majority oppressor (intersectionalism), they seem completely incapable of imagining how a majority can oppress a minority and that minority can also oppress a minority within that minority. The idea that a subject can be an oppressed in one context and an oppressor in a different context must simply be too complex for them.
Very intelligent comment , THANK YOU ,, LIBERATE IRAN FROM ISLAM!!
to be fair, students in the US would have no impact on Iran and may even have a negative impact as Iran would try to play down domestic concerns as foreign inspired
My question has always been, why is it always Iranians who proudly claim the “ex-muslim” title. Majority are always Iranian.
@@DMaybach93 better internet access, an area in North Tehran as an activist base the religious police have left less restricted, a recent historical memory of a secular society
I lost friends over the pandemic, over 1/6 and now my friends on the left over this. You guys are keeping me sane. Thank you.
youre in good company!
Same. I choose sanity over extremism on either side. That is basically what is comes down to.
I’m left of center and entirely support Israel in the current conflict and am very grateful for what I have learned about islamicists from Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Yasmine Mohammed, and others. If by “the left” you mean the Looney Left - the “progressive” extremists, yeah, even we normal liberal lefties are left by them. And vice versa.
I’ve felt the same thing, definitely!
Not a coup
Jasmine, as Sam says, we need many more smart and brave women like you. Thank you for who you are!
Jasmin, you are so good. We thank you for bringing Sam to the show and being equally remarkable. I am fascinated by your stories and perspective. Much love from🇮🇱
We need more brave people, period...
I am from Israel - and I feel a terrible and painful loneliness in the face of the forces of Islam, and the cowardice of the world in front of it, as long as the Jews are at the forefront the world is ready to sacrifice us, and does not imagine that it will come to them as well.
I'm an American Jew who spent many of my young adult years in Israel. I have always talked to people about the threat of Islam throughout the world not just Jews and not just Israel. They won't believe me. Their willful ignorance is dangerous and is sadly helping the jihadi cause
I am an American, non Jew who used to live in Israel with a Jewish Israeli. I was there when Hamas was first elected in 2005. I was there when Hamas was bombing 15 miles from where I lived. They have been voted in every year by the people in Gaza. I hate that this part of the story never gets told. They want the complete destruction of all the Jews.
Just remember that you are actually not alone. You have friends in every country and we will always do our part.
@@enshrinehd totally agree. And right now, the woke left attacks anyone who condemns hateful Islamic ideology. I'm Black and I'm dealing with an "Islamophobic" accusation from a Black-led organization.
While what you're saying is totally true, as a christian I feel compelled to point out that you don't need to feel alone. God isn't done with the Jews yet, and the very existence of Israel after 1900 is proof of it. (And it's also the reason the devil isn't done with the Jews either, hence the hatred towards you.)
While we're at it, an important side note. I haven't watched the whole video but should point out that Sam is talking total nonsense when it comes to the existence of the Jews being "a perennial blasphemy" because they rejected the Messiah and that this has been the christian view for 2000. Bogus. For a 2000 christian view, read Romans 9-11 of the New Testament.
God bless!
I’ve been listening to and reading Harris for 20 years now and it has changed the way I think and live.
That’s the danger of Sam Harris. He can mislead you the wrong direction.
@@shanedwood I only have to look at Islamic countries to realize how dangerous Islam is.
@@shanedwoodExplain what is the wrong direction?
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
same, he's a great intellectual...hopefully he gets his due recognition.
The story of how the Iranian Islamic revolution happened is extremely relevant here. It was an alliance between islamists and the far left that gave rise to the current situation after the left got betrayed and killed and oppressed by the islamists
Yes nothing to do with the CIA coup over throwing their democratically elected leader. The stupidity here is astounding
I mean it is right out in the open and yet people just deny and pretend that never happened. Not even 60 years ago....
Isn't the most important part that the CIA and Mi5 led a coup against the secular Iranian government, installed the Shah a brutal dictator and only then the islamic revolution occurred?
Yes! Fun fact. I lived through the Iranian revolution. My father was Sweden's last ambassador to Iran. We arrived 6 months before the revolution, lived through the revolution and my left a few months after the fall of the US Embassy. I was only 6 but I remember it vividly.
Anyway you are exactly correct: Pre-revolution, the secular left wing allied with and cheerlead the Islamists, recruiting them to help take over Iran, after which the left assumed they would take their rightful place as the enlightened, sophisticated elite controlling Iran.
The story of Christendom was always an empirial religion, born under the auspices of constantine, the subjects were converted at the edge of the sword and rendered into slaves for his majesty, often referring to him as their lord. In Islam such slavery is unthinkable. The only lordship is that of the creator, no station into which man was brought into the lands of Islam was to any degree as bad as the repugnant chattel slavery brought by the primitive tribalism inherent in their texts, for example, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”
-Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”
-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
Albert describes a massacre occurring, in cold blood, on the second day following the conquest, painting a scene that is as horrific as it is realistic and detailed: "Girls, women, matrons, tormented by fear of imminent death and horror-struck by the violent murder wrapped themselves around the Christians’ bodies in the hope to save their lives, even as the Christians were raving and venting their rage in murder of both sexes. Some threw themselves at their feet, begging them with pitiable weeping and wailing for their lives and safety. When children five or three years old saw the cruel fate of their mothers and fathers, of one accord they stepped up the weeping and pitiable clamour. But they were making these signals for pity and mercy in vain. For the Christians gave over their whole hearts to murder, so that not a suckling little male-child or female, not even an infant of one year would escape the hand of the murderer".
Evoking several of these verses in practice:
- (Num 31:17-18) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
- (Deut 7:2, 9:3, Num 21) thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them...
- (Deut 20:16-17) thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth
- (Josh 6:21, 8:24-27, 10:, 11:11-14,21-22) And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword... And cut off their thumbs and their great toes... He left none remaining:
- (Judg 18:27) And they took [the things] which Micah had made ...and came unto Laish ...and smote them with the edge of sword burnt city fire.
- (1 Sam 15:1-9) Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but slay both man and woman infant and suckling ox and sheep camel and ass.
- (1 Sam 27:9,11) And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive ...
- (Esther 8:11, 9:1-19) Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together and to stand for their life to destroy to slay and to cause to perish all the power of the people and province that would assault them both little ones and women and to take the spoil of them for a prey... .
- (Ezek 9:6) Slay utterly old [and] young both maids and little children and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] mark begin at my sanctuary.
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
Thank goodness for Sam Harris. I am exhausted from this situation, the hatred, the anti-antisemitism, I needed this. Thank you.
$amuel Binyamin Harri$: The 'intellectual' for sub-100 I.Q.'s
Another tunnel visioned comment! SIGH! How do you feel about the mass slaughter of the Palestinians...the past 100 years of brutal oppression, occupation and repression? most Palestinians have lived their entire lives under the boot of Israel...how does that make you feel? if anything?
What do you mean by anti anti-semitism?
@@rachlovesthebeatles They don't know -- it's just a term that has been indoctrinate into them, and which they parrot without ever asking what it _actually_ means.
Yasmine deserves so much more attention for her work
Amen to that ! Fantastic work Yasmine keep up the brilliant conversations. All the best to you & good luck with your channel 🙏
I subbed just now. She seems great
@@da3v1ls93 she's a living legend, her story is one of incredible courage. And few use their voice for such dangerous criticism
Stay safe as well… you are so brave.
her story should truly be a movie. but people are too obsessed with islamophobia to show it.
Can’t believe this is happening in today’s world, I naively thought antisemitism was not a big thing anymore, how wrong could I be . The insanity is just incredible. I’m a British non Jew, but fully support and pray for Israel ❤.
bless you, thank you. I'm a jew and honestly being so hated is nuts, it's as if you're being looked at as some mythical creature deserving this epic emotion and inside you're like "i'm just a person, what's wrong with everybody?". I also thought it was a thing of the past. it's pretty bizzare I must say.
@@inbaryogev1722i understand you. I m not jew but i too have been hated for being hindu
@@inbaryogev1722 I really can’t fathom it at all, it’s as if the world has gone mad, Gods knows where it’s going to end , but my prayers are with you, and I believe in reality there are a lot of people, who get it , they are just not the one’s shrieking on the streets and on social media 🙏🏼❤️xxx
As a Jewish Israeli I appreciate your kind words.
I’m in the same boat. I’ve long said that racism, homophobia, etc. are way overblown in our society and about most of those I am absolutely right. But I was completely unaware of how bad antisemitism still is. And to see that it is mostly those on the left (in the west) being the ones driving it is astounding.
I am happy she is brave enought to speak up. We need more like her. Courageous
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
I was having this conversation with a Jewish Turkish friend who's been living in NY for 25 years and she thought I was an alarmist. I didn't even know how to respond. Thank you Yas and Sam.
The first thing I did when I got the news of 10/7, was call my Jewish friends in the US. One of them told me Islam is a peaceful religion. I didn't want to rub anything in so I let it go.
@@waitaminute2015 you’re a good friend. Most Jews got complete silence from their non Jewish friends
@@waitaminute2015 Mind you she's Turkish. She should know a thing or two about it but no. Sadly I see this attitude with lots of secular Turks. They still haven't figure out what's going on, they can't see the big picture or maybe I don't know, they don't want to see it because it's quite depressing especially if you've got children.
@@nomicucce987 The problem with Turkish leftists is they think the Democrat party is a leftist party, but it has long ago traded old school leftist values of freedom of speech and inclusion for censorship, exclusion, cancel culture, anti-Semitism, and wokeism.
This is also, unfortunately, a common problem with Jews living in the West. Their obsession with far leftist ideologies have made them blind to the problem of Radical Islam.
Both Yasmine and Sam are the most courageous people among us. They stand up to a murderous ideology we have no understanding of. yet. D.A. NYC
Scuse me? Who is murdering who?
@@myblighters Jihadists. Where have you been?
@@myblighters the jews and muslims are murdering each other, both due to false ideologies
one of the scariest things I took notice is that, even if you point out many holes and the double standards in the pro palestine/woke movement in a completely logical way, most people just act as if you didn't say those things, or turn the tables with 'what about this, what about that' type of arguments, make false equivalences (there's homophobia in israel and in gaza, therefore gays being pro hamas is perfectly reasonable). It's like they double down in their woke convictions in a way that honestly, looks completely crazy and irrational. Like their entire identity as a woke person is depending on them being pro palestine without any critical thinking. They are defending their own self concept by never admiting they are wrong. I recently watched a documentary about the chinese Cultural Revolution of the 60s (Morning Sun, 2003), and it looks for me as if this woke movement is somehow comparable to it, this frenzy for unending revolution just for the sake of revolution, no room for moderation, etc.
It's pseudo-religion, exactly
Don't forget that the Iranian Islamic revolution happened in cooperation with the leftist communist type. then of course the Islamists betray them and commit all kinds of atrocities to keep all the power.
The oppressed can’t have agency or do wrong to oppressors
Couldn't have put it better myself
" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.
Thank you for your podcast and point of view on this topic, I live in Australia and was both alarmed and horrified of what took place on the steps of the opera house post the BABARIC attack on Israe. Hope your message will wake up more people in the West before it's late to save our civilization without bloodshed.
I could listen to Sam Harris all day, and now I found your awesome channel through him❤
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
Thank you Yasmine for sharing your courageous story and Sam Harris for your clear moral thinking.
Exactly, clear, moral thinking.
I know, right? Jews don't get to commit one lousy genocide after all they've been through? They can't shoot four lousy Arab kids walking out in the open without people getting all ragey about it? Dang.
Clear moral thinking to justify genocide. This is textbook worthy.
@@Thiscannotbetruebutitis You are very confused
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
Stephen Langton, the writer of the Magna Carta (12th century, contemporary with the crusades for a reason) studied in the university of Paris which archives show had plenty of Arabic treatises in its procession, there can be no question about it being inspired by the "Sharia". both the renessiance and the european enlightenment were directly preceded by massive translation movements form Arabic (see the Republic of Letters by Alexander Bevilacqua, The House of Wisdom: How the Arabs Transformed Western Civilization By: Jonathan Lyons.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
Most courageous philosopher of our time
The light of reason and truth shines into the darkest hell circles of ideological and psychotic terrorists. God has bound loose all hell for pedagogical reason and a limited time. God alone is good - when God isn't angry. 🍷❤️🔥🌌
It's shocking but Sam is the first commentator I have heard that has positioned the release of hostages as a necessary precondition for ceasefire. It seems so obvious, and yet, the silence on the hostages is deafening.
The world doesn't care about hostages if they are Jewish.
I saw Harris and 3 hours of the video and rejoiced! Thank you Yasmine!
Yasmine and Sam, thank you for your sane and kind words . We need more rational leaders like you.
Sam Harris is one of the few well-known people around the world who truly understand what Islam actually is and the threat it represents to modern civilization as we know it.
that may be true, but his MASSIVE blind spot is- he is in utter denial / unaware that HIS beliefs and philosophy are also an enormous threat to civilisation. hes a thoroughly biased ideologue.
his views on trump were like a hot flush karen's and the fact he favours biden over him means i find it impossible to respect him. seems like someones got dirt on him or he cares more about money, done the research and realized all his book sales are from loonie lefties for some reason.
On the left- there are plenty on the right but they are media blocked..
We Muslims are pretty nice and smart lol. Keep drinking the kool aid tho. And Islamism ain’t Islam just like hentai isn’t anime.
One of the few shmucks.
I'd love to see someone unpack the connections between the Arab/Muslim world and the Nazis. Something I've only really come across more recently is how interconnected they were. Nazi officers went to Egypt after the war. Sadat was somehow involved with Nazi espionage. The Grand Mufti visited Nazi concentration camps and convinced Bosnian Muslims to fight for the Axis, the Muslim Brotherhood, the predecessor of Hamas, owes something of its origins to Nazism, if not just in it's ideologies, in it's actual logistical make up. This doesn't negate the atrocities happening in Gaza, which are horrific, I condemn and need to stop as soon as Hamas release the hostages, but surely this history needs to be known!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many dead children is enough? So the killing keeps going until Hamas releases all the hostages? That's what you are saying?
" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.
Read Jake Wallis Simons’ book Israelophobia
@@mznxbcv12345 What is the point you are trying to make my friend?
Don’t forget how the founders of Israel collaborated with the Nazis. Which is not surprising considering how the founders of Israel hated the Jews who were killed in the holocaust,calling them weak and disgusting and saying they deserved what they got because they didn’t fight back. Look it up. Read the history and the words of Theodor Herzl,Chaim Weissman, Jabotinsky etc.
Great podcast ❤We ex Muslims have been warning and were accused of being hateful.
Ex Muslims must be protected, you guys know more about what's going on than anyone else. All the best on your new path Sonia 🙏
So Sonia, do you think it's ok for Israel to kill over 35,000 Palestinians and physically destroy the entire civil structure of Gaza; and starve millions???
You deserve protection. May you receive it. ❤
Excellent job interviewing Sam Harris. We are overdue for another interview on my show Yasmine!
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
Yesterday in the Netherlands, we saw a bunch of "pro Palestine" protestors screaming on the top of their lungs when the holocaust museum was innaugerated by President Herzog and some other Jewish dignitaries + Amsterdam's mayor, who didn't even bother to demand that this protest took place further away from the synagogue, it was literally across. And there's this clip of of the guy going around saying "hamas is my brother", and another pic of someone having his right arm stretched in front of him, and those are "progressives?"
I see a lot of replacement shame coming from social media in the Dutch language social media. A lot of people speak shame, that Amsterdam and the Netherlands is put to shame. Especially targeted at the mayor who wouldn't think to mandate that the protestors would take another spot to protest, and not in the heart of the historicd jewish quarters of WW2
Thank you from NYC my Dutch friend. Cheers! D.A., NYC
@@davidanderson9664 no, I’m just frustrated at the level of hypocrisie and unequal moral treatment going on.
and it was even worse than we thought. She (the mayor) decided that the attendees of this event should “hear” the grievances of pro Palestine protesters.
Afterwards, politicians were not happy with how things were organized:
When the ritual of christening the museum was performed, someone shouted, “get lost cancer Jew” : that is some style of vitriol right ? The mayor didn’t think for one second this crossed many lines.
Years ago, an organisation called pegida organized a protest in front of a mosque, that was immediately dealt with and was seen as violation of Muslim sensibilities.
So why don’t Jews get the same courteous treatment from a progressive mayor in her city ?
Here in Germany there are some schools which a very large minority or even a majority Muslim situation in some classes. The tradition here is to make a class trip to a concentration camp in 9th or 10th year. My daughter was on a class trip to Dachau last year and she was the only one who cried. She phoned me from there for emotional support and told me her classmates were eating during the guided tour and had to be told to stop. Luckily the only demonstrations round here have been against the AfD. If Germany starts allowing demonstrations against Israel then the world is just completely broken 😞.
That is absolutely disgustingly horrifying is actually happening proudly and protected in Europe in 2024
@@CosmicDOf course, Herzog should have been arrested immediately for mass murder, as you very well know. Your callousness with regard to the 30.000 slaughtered people is beyond repair, especially in relation to that what the new museum represents.
I'll always remember your appearance on Sam Harris's podcast a few years ago. Your story really touched me and made me aware of this issue. You are a hero for everything you do and write and I just wish that one day every ex muslim woman and man and everyone else around the world is safe from the threat of Islamism and can live in freedom and peace. Also, belated happy international women's day.
Thanks Yasmine. You are fighting the good fight with wonderful insights, immense human kindness, and superb content. 😊
Yasmine, big hug from Israel. Hope to hear more sane voices like yours. Please keep telling the truth ❤
This channel should have millions of views. Intelligent conversations with first hand experiences from around the world. This tells me people don't want to face the truth. To me its such fake outrage and the masses pretending to care about women and children. If they did, they would listen to the victims. I just don't get it.
Absolutely! She is super underrated for her courage and great work
Agreed! I listen to a podcast called 'unapologetic, the third narrative', which is by two young Palestinian Israelis who are peace activists. I don't agree with every word but I applaud their sentiment and their ongoing efforts to provide a different viewpoint. I don't get why they aren't the voices that are being listened to as much as Yasmine. These are the people who have lived, and are living it - surely their voices are the ones we should take most seriously!!
@@SandraKanferClarke so frustrating!
@@SandraKanferClarkefollow Rudy Rochman
Unfortunately very true!
❤❤❤❤ Nice to see Sam after such a long time sitting with ex Muslims. I will surely listen to the whole interview.
Well done Sam and Yasmine. Great to listen to both of you and brave by Yasmine! Regards from Scandinavia where our society rapidly is falling apart due to islam.
This is the first 3hr video ive listen to from start to finish. Although i do not agree with everything Sam said, i love listening to him. Thank you Yasmine.
Being a trauma expert dealing with the postraumatic symptoms of victims of sexual abuse and sexual violence in arm conflicts; loving the Arab culture and being part of a group Of Experts in mental health in Arab and French speaking countries I gave been horrified by the non response of the people in the west and seeing how the left is supporting Palestine without any mention of how this conflict started and the hostages well-being till now , supporting the Palestinians after October 7th is like supporting the rapist and torturers that raped and abuse my patients and “understanding their psychological background “ RAPE IS NOT RESISTANCE” there is a very high number of survivors of child abuse that will NEVER abuse other people !
Wonderful conversation! Ex-Muslims have really important voices! ❤️
I have been following Sam Harris since 2004 when he published The End Of Faith. It's been 20 years and I am glad people are listening to him. No matter the topic of the conversation is, we have to be able to talk about it without fear and clear thinking. Keep growing Sam!!!
Wow that quote about all living in Israel .. brilliantly clear. 🙏🇮🇱🙏
I feel him. As a jew me talking israel immediately puts me in a pre conceived camp
There are a lot of self-hating delulu jews living their best lives in Americas and refusing to go back to where their families came from to vacate the land of indeginous tribes for some reason. If you're European and especially Eastern European tho, you would have a different perspective on everything.
I joined the still justified imo opposition to the Iraq War.
Before, it was unjustified for Michael Moore Bernie Sanders type reasons.
Now I realize it was STUPID because it removed the enemy of Iran, and while Saddam was an enemy of Israel (and had once fired missiles at Riyadh?!!), Iraq was not a serious threat to Israel.
Iran is.
And I read that Israel had to be cajoled a bit by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Neocons to agree to support the US coalition.
Anyhow, in joining that peace movement, I discovered weird communists hanging out with book tables. Later, I was recruited by friends into the pro-Palestine movement.
Mind, it wasn't then presented to me as anti Israel, just opposing the Goliath of superiority of nuclear armed modern weapons Israel against ragtag freedom fighters with rather primitive mostly ineffective weapons.
WHY NOT LET THEM HAVE A STATE?
I thought of myself as standing for Truth.
I didn't know, Palestinian-Arabs had rejected EVERY OFFER to build a peaceful state next to Israel.
I didn't know Hamas totally rejected negotiations and only wanted total annihilation of Jewish people.
There was a lot more I didn't know, while "standing for justice".
Onwards Yasmine and Sam. Heroes - fight against religious darkness. D.A. J.D., NYC (writer and attorney)
I don’t believe a war against Iran would unite all of Iran against the US and it’s allies. Amir is right about the Iranians having a recent enough memory of pre Islam. They also have a very rich history that predates Islam, and many are very educated. There is much opposition to the current government I believe, even if it remains largely quiet or dormant. Much of the Iranian diaspora have family and friends back in Iran, and I think most are overwhelmingly opposed to the theocratic government.
Kids from here , never lived in a Muslim country would simply lecture me ( Canadian from Bangladesh)on how I should respect the value of Islam and hijab etc. It's dilluitional.
Most Liberal Canadians are cutting their own throats with show of solidarity with Islam, Yet when i speak the truth , i am a Hateful racist, it just goes to show Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Exactly that’s why it is SO important to encourage immigration of ex-Muslims who know what is up.
He is such a clear and honest thinker.
He’s a racist pseudo intellectual.
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Yeah, I know he comes across that way but I think he is clearly biased on this. I have listened to him for years as he debated against religion. Then he started trying to argue that humans have no free will, saying everything we think, say and do is caused by our past experiences...which is a bit far-fetched IMO as we still have choices to make every time we are at a crossroads or dilemma.
That's a good way to describe him.
I just mean on religion and politics in the Middle East. IMO his philosophy is superficial compared to the Continental philosophers.
The fact that my far left friends, who are good and empathetic people refuse to acknowledge that what they want can only happen with the genocide of all the Israelis is infuriating to me.They woudnt support a genocide, but still they refuse to see the reality of the situation.Anyway, I would like to point out every Iranian I ever met,obviously outside of Iran,was a smart and kind person,greetings from Greece.
As a person of the left myself, it’s been infuriating watching this unfold with people I’d usually align myself with and people who I know are good people. I’m neither Jewish or conservative either etc.
@@maxfairclough3600I couldn’t agree more. I believe those who don’t support peace and want to fight hate with more hate are either very young or willfully instigating conflict for their own nefarious goals.
Maybe if Israel stopped occupying other people's land we'd see more peace
Far leftists that I’m aware of imagine a single democratic state for all the people in the area, including Jews. So do I. However, the reality is that this cannot happen until the Palestinians stop wanting to kill all Jews and, beyond that, Islam likewise - and more generally abandons its religious supremacism. Unfortunately, this might take generations, so I see no immediate solution.
The Left is insane. That's all I have to say.
Brilliant exposition of the situation. Thank you Yasmine and Sam, I admire both of you so much, even when I disagree w Sam on one main issue (no relation to this topic) I’ve admire him from the first time I hear him on Dave Rubin and loved the group and the discussions they had. I learn much from it. 💕🙏
What do you disagree with him on, asking out of sheer interest?
@@mellpear4773 I rather not start that in this space. It’s a political point/preferemce
@@mellpear4773 His zealous and unsubstantiated depiction and hate of DJT
@@novacancy7253amirite?
@@Re3iRtH yeah that’s a good one. He has some fair criticisms on DJTs character & morality. But his clear dislike of the man dominates his commentary on DJT.
Terrific! Speaking truth requires bravery and deserves respect and support.
Those who downplay the danger of Islam are Ben Affleck crazy fans 🤐🤐🤐
Yasmine and Sam
Thank you very much the enlightening discussion! 🙏🙏👏👏👏👏As a person who lived and breathed under a religious totalitarian regime like IRI, I realized that I could feel some of your points with my blood and flesh! It just blows my mind and can’t truly believe when I see how the Western liberals react to the current chaos!
Especially given how Islamist theocracy has made it abundantly clear that they intend to annihilate everything about every plank in woke and left wing platforms.
So cool to hear Sam taking these wonderful ppl questions!
This is a great convo Yas. Sending love and best wishes to you both.
Yasmine, have you listened to Einat Wilf? She is a remarkable woman, a spokesperson for Israel and Zionism. She reveals the true nature of the conflict and the Palestinian myth in her books and talks so brilliantly. Although she is not under the delusion of the Arab world all of a sudden recognising the state of Israel and living peacefully with Jewish people any time soon, she finds hope in the Arab world’s young generation to modernise and transform its religion views, accept Israel into its region and coexist peacefully. We see this trend with the gulf countries and Abraham accords but it will certainly be a long process but who knows we might witness peace in our lifetime.
The problem is that there's also young people radicalized through social media too and many young people are actually more radicalized.
2 of my favourite people thanks guys for your work you do absolutley voice of reason ❤️🙏
A word of praise for your dad. Bravo. We need more men like him in this world.
This might very well be the most correct honest conversation on this topic I've seen since October 7th. Thank you both for being some of the few having enough courage to talk honestly.
We have to ignore the name-callers. Thanks to :Yasmine Mohammed, Mosab Hassan Yousef and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, all former Muslims speaking out re the extremism, the violence, the deceit.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is no person to speak up about deceit
Why? @@jmc5335
She tells a compelling story of being raised in extremist schools and family. @@jmc5335
@@jmc5335 shut up incel
Fantastic discussion . And 3hrs of it. Wow, what a treat. Thanks to you both.
It’s the first time I’ve heard someone else say exactly what I suspected….. “us versus them”. This is exactly right, and this is very evident in Londonstan. Thank you Jasmine for your honesty. 🙏🙏🙏
Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Robert Spencer have lots of info for you, among many others.
What an honour to hear the wisdom & sanity of Sam & Yasmine. Thank you.
Thank you Sam for stating the situation so eloquently!! We are big fans of you here in Israel. ❤
It is! You just have to click on CC
Thank you so much, Yasmine and Sam for this conversation and what felt almost like a support group. Thank you to the people who bravely asked questions and spoke up. I’ll donate to the cause now and join future events. Thank you again.
Always sensible, always open to genuine criticism, Sam Harris is a gem.
Sam Harris has been a discovery for me. Yasmine Mohhamed has been an awakening. Both should be known by more people before we suffer Islamic aggression to an irreversible extent.
Thank you for this great conversation. Just one thing I'd like to mention. Despite the fact that there is a lot of antisemitism, I believe the people standing with Israel and the Jews are not quite the kind of people expressing their emotions openly on social media. I imagine there is a larger number of people deeply shocked about October 7th.
There are also many not shocked by the event, having studied history and the Koran already. Unfortunately there are not enough in this group.
I’m thinking yay, Sam Harris finally putting out a podcast over 20 minutes again! And yay again finally back to Islam instead of just meditation! But it’s someone else’s podcast. Thank you Yasmine!
Aloha Yasmine and Sam (the names of my niece and nephew also) I feel so unspeakably grateful to have found your voices, at this time of my being a progressive intellectual who feels horrified at all the Left who are supporting values of Jihadists, in the name of freedom. I would like to ask you for a podcast suitable for sharing with my Democratic U.S. Senator, as to why her stance of "Free Palestine" and demanding an "immediate ceasefire", is not freeing Palestine to have Democratic values, such as women's rights, freedom of religion, freedom to question beliefs, separation of church and state, etc. Mahalo for all that you do!!!!
Thank you Yasmin. You are not ignored. You are a jewel. I hope more people learn to see through the bullshit.
thank you Yasmin.your voice is so important, especially for peace activists like me, who are confused and upset, learning the truth about our peace partners...
Great conversation! Thanks Yasmine!
Yasmin is amazing. Her book is amazing! She’s doing great things for people who need help. Amazing work!
The part where Yasmine said 'us vs them' summarize everything we see in this world. Grew up muslim and I left many years ago, I realized how deep the hatred my teachers planted in me when I was in madrasa (islamic school). It's always about muslim vs jews & christian and I remember how spiritful my teachers said they wanted to just see jews killed. It was too much hatred covered my eyes, even when i was a teenager. You never saw muslim takes credit if a terrorist attack happens, because it's jihad against non-believers and it's okay bcs you get reward in afterlife. Ofc, victim mentality is deeply ingrained. Hadits and Quran simply their guide, nothing else. You can't criticize it, unfortunately.
I am from Indonesia. Leaving the islam is just so hard for me to deal on the backlash, but I've gained my peace now.
Yasmine, I support you fully on your doing to spread awareness about islamic ideology. I've dealt with that shit in the past and I am glad to see a brave woman to speak up about this. I've dealt too much hatred already since I decided to not wear hijab anymore, but you do beyond my own encouragement. Thank you, Yasmine.
❤️🩹 I’m so glad you’ve found your peace now. It’s a long difficult journey to overcome religious trauma. Please reach out to my org for community and support www.freeheartsfreeminds.com xxx
Is Jakarta or Java still safe for non-Muslims, I mean you can find refuge in the more Christian areas, I assume.
Greetings from a Christian in the Philippines!
thank you! i'm a left wing israeli ashkenazi jew, and I admit I did not understand how significant (and nuts) the religious islamic component was until 7.10. it just sounded too far out there. well I understand now.
the feeling of being a liberal left wing israeli rn is of complete isolation, being cancelled, shunned, but more than anything it just feels like the west have gone crazy and it happened way too fast after 7.10. truthfully I'd much rather talk to gazan people about the conflict rather than to wokeists from the west. these ones just blended any piece of world view they ever learned (post colonialism, race etc) and now they throw it all on us. americans (most successful colonial endevour running until this day) preach us on non colonialism. what a joke. we f'ing bought the lands from arabs before they declared war on us and lost in what is called the nakba.
you ask why they care less about russia and ukraine? imo it's because they consider both to be white and in the same level of "nativeness", while israeli's are percieved as white colonizers (not true, many are mizrahi arab jews plus there was always a jewish minority on the land) and the palestinians are the quote on quote brown natives. if we leave here muslims will still be killing each other like they do in all states around us, the west just wouldn't care because they'll all be seen as brown natives practicing their native ways. the west hates itself and is guilt ridden to a debilitating degree, in short.
anyway meaning to say thank you for the conversation, I feel a little less alone now.
The problem by asking Gazans is that they're also potentially brainwashed by Hamas and fundamentalism - look up what "lying for the faith" means.
Endorsing a regime change that bolsters the democratic movement from within is deemed imperative for Iran, as it holds the potential to mitigate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, foster peace, and bolster stability both regionally within the Middle East and globally.
As the secular Jewish offspring of Holocaust survivors I have many of the same sentiments as have been shared here, which I feel somewhat exonerates me for not compromising my stance on Hamas and Israel as my leftists intellectual friends would have me do, to the point that they want to do an intervention to convince me of the error of my ways. I have had to cut myself away from them and I'm incredibly sad that this may be a more common occurrence among other rational, moral people and their social justice warrior friends.
Much of the Midwest still welcomes you.
A lot of people refuse to see the current moral emergency bc they liken it to slavery. They believe we’re being 'racist' by taking a stand against Islam & Hamas. They’re clueless & very stubborn in their cluelessness.
I agree fully with the guy who said more films need to be made about Islam and all the problems it’s caused, past and present. I have a background in acting & film and have a film idea on this very topic. I need to get the darn thing finished!
Great discussion and questions, everyone. Thanks to all!
We are definitly witnessing a separation of the souls and spirits into ideological and pseudo-religious enslaved minds driven by hate, self-righteousness and stubbornness - and a freely, peaceful and independent thinking people without the urgent need of permanently judging on differently believing or non-believing people. Another prophecy comes true.
Good luck! I'd love to see your film!
@@tochiRTA thanks so much!!
I'm a 56 years old Israeli, my grandfather was one of the "Shomer" organization commanders, guarding the Jewish community in the Ottoman-Empire era, against the hostile Arabs - way way way before they started calling theirselves "Palestinians".
My family from both sides, took place almost in every effort to defend us Jews in Israel ( NILI underground, Palmach and so on ... ) - 130 years of struggle, when the land stood almost empty, desolate due to the barbarity and neglect of the Ottomans and Arabs ...
We experienced the lies of those "new commers" Arabs who came to work for the Jews and suddenly became a people name "Palestinians" (they can't even pronounce the "P" in that Phoenician name which means "Invaders" . (similar process we see in Europe now)
*I want to ask two questions* :
- Why on earth ... anybody ... thinks he have any right to decide if "Israel has a right to exist" ?
- Why do you Sam thinks that Israel is centered around the "religious issue" while it's around the "Jewish culture and/or Ethnic issue ( you as an Atheist should know better and that what separate us Agnostics from you ) - Israel is centered around the Idea that it should give every Jew in the world a shelter to be a Jew ( whether culturally, Religiously or ethnically ), to my opinion your over-atheism fails you in some issues and you're not the only "thinker" that got this ... seems you don't know Israel enough, since in here there are Atheist Jews, religious Jews, ultra-religious, reform Jews, Jews that beleive in god but don't folow almost any Prohibition .. to call Israel religious is kind of ignorance ...
I have to agree. From what I've seen and read, Jewish society has a wide range of 'religiosity' and has been secular overall for a long time. Thanks for mentioning your history. I'd never heard of NILI or Palmach.
@@tochiRTA I'm secular too, but keep Jewish traditions as much as I can, cherish what we Jews gave to the world and still giving, cherish the Bible ( old testimony ) for it's revolutionary values in the era of violence and imorality... The foundation of western civilization values.
NILI: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nili
Palmach: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmach
Those two were the first Israelis resistance movements (way before the declaration of the modern state of Israel ) , Nili helped the Brits in WW1 to defeat the Ottomans in the Levant, and were *one of the main reasons for the Balfour declaration* and as the Brits said: one of the biggest contributions to bring their victory in WW1...
Right of Return is quite unevenly applied.😢
If only the British had helped their Assyrian citizens half as much. Then Israel would not stand alone in the region today.
I am reading this five months too late catching up on this podcast. I had the very same reaction and I got quite mad at the point when Sam said it’s an issue if Israel is a Jewish state. I really had the exact reaction of first who are all these people debating Israel’s right to exist, and second, how do they not know Israel to such a degree?
I was born and raised in Haifa, I live in Providence RI now. My entire family is in Israel and I am just so happy I was raised and born in Israel and am so unwavering in my Jewishness and have Hebrew as my native tongue. So grateful not to have that flimsy relationship with my Jewishness so as to think that Israel is simply about religion. People just don’t get how rich Jewish culture, history, and language are. It makes me so incredibly sad.
You two are the BRAVEST COUPLE of human beings I’ve seen in a long time. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏🙏. Keep it up!🙏🙏🩵🩵🩵
I love you both so much. One thing I heard the other day however: just because Gazans are openly criticizing Hamas now, does not mean they hate Israel any less. That is why the polls show that they support Hamas at 45% or so and support the actions of October 7th at 75% or so. They support "the revolutionary actions" against the Zionist entity, of which they themselves greatly took part as ordinary citizens!
Step one is their hatred of Hamas, yes...the road to de-radicalization is long...decades long...
Love what you do Yasmine. Thanks for having Sam on, 3 hour podcast, timestamps would be awesome! thanks again.
I like this guy who asked Sam if he can make content that is palatable for those who aren’t as linguistically and politically savvy
AP recommeneded this interview. I can see why. Thank you for your work.
The basic dilemma that causes moral cowardice/inaction is that people who want peace aren't willing to start an actual fight in an attempt at peace, because that would feel hypocritical and contradictory. Yet haters do welcome an actual fight, because peace is not their primary value. The asymmetry is real, perhaps insurmountable.
1:00 a sharp thorn
46:30 johadism is a much bigger game
57:30 the issue of Muslims reflexively taking the side of the relatable bad guy
1:00:00 Muslim-first ideology overrides nationality
1:01:40 letting in people who have no interest in integrating
1:05:30 probably not a good idea to invite enemies of civilization into your country
1:13:00 no viable alternative to a fatal defeat and embarrassment
1:15:40 non producing cultures
1:17:00 fundamentalist religions have to lose
1:20:00 war with iran
1:26:50 on reforming Islam
1:46:00 people needing to become emotionally available first, before logical persuasion on religion can happen
1:55:30 moral progress can lead to problem solving and a better life, because moral handguns/mistakes harm error correction
2:00:50 islamists intentionally hacking social justice ideology
2:03:00 weird case in Germany of mix between social justice, crime and Muslim immigration
2:08:50 Sam has a good life and fulfilling
2:10:30 ideas are vulnerable and extremely powerful
2:20:30 Sam’s daughter is surrounded by moral imbeciles and being not confused would brand her as a bigot
2:28:00 the moral difference in Israel Palestine today, and the dangers of the ultra orthodox
2:49:00 the strange paradox of female ex Muslims being silenced
2:52:00 the cloth bag line that goes over like a lead balloon with leftists
This was fantastic. Thank you both for being so generous with your time.
Thank you so much Yasmine for this awesome interview. ❤️
Yasmeen, I am so impressed by your intelligence and courage.
This was great! Thank you Yasmine and Sam.
This is the #1 most reasonable discussion out there. Thank goodness for lived experience, wisdom, honesty, common sense, and educated thought.
Wow I subbed just 2 days ago and was wondering if Sam ever had a talk with you, and here is a new one!Obviously you ve talked before and I got to find it.
When discussing Judith Butler, Sam said "we can only hope that many that are in that camp, are not tracking the details, they don't know what they are signing up for." I can remember my friends saying the same thing about far right supporters. Now we have 22 states which have revoked bodily autonomy for half their population.
The man couldn't lace Butler's boots
So much of Gen Z has learned about I/P from social media.
I have been an atheist for 52 years , my husband for his whole life of 72 years . We don’t need a flag we just need to be good people
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity." Zuheir Mohsen (senior member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization 1977)
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(1) Whether or not a Palestinian nationality exists or existed is irrelevant as to whether there were people living on that land that still have a right to be under a government that reflects their national aspirations and (2) nationalities and identities develop over time, so while the concept of a Palestinian may not have existed historically, it certainly exists now.
@@oremfrien Arab-settler colonizers should return to the desert 🏜️🏝️🌞🏝️ where they came from smooth 🧠🧠🧠🧠
@@oremfrien 1. There already is a Palestinian state among the 22 Arab Islamic and 55 Islamic countries - it's called "Jordan" which is comprised of 70% what is now referred to as "Palestinians" (don't forget, Israel is similarly 80% Jewish. Under the original conceptualization of the Jewish homeland, both the Jordanian and Israeli land masses were to have constituted the Jewish state but Jordan was quickly parceled off by Britain as a Hashemite kingdom. Unfortunately, the Hashemites do not afford the "Palestinians" equal rights as they are afforded as citizens of Israel. Don't ask me why. 2. The "Palestiians" have been offered a state numerous times, initially when the state of Israel was declared by the UN in 1948 and numerous times subsequently by Israel - they refused, they want a 1 state solution 3. People throughout history have had to suffer migrations and population changes - particularly after long world wars. After WWII Pakistan was carved out of India, Predominantly German Prussia was returned to Poland by Germany, 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries and millions of European Jews lost homes and possessions that were in their families for centuries and had to move to other countries...like Israel. Why, I wonder, does the world rail against the displacement/dispossession of only this group of people when there are those indiginous to Australia, New Zealand, North, South and Central American countries whose homelands were forever changed by migrating peoples? 4. If the world had not for millenia subjected the Jewish people to pogroms, expulsions, inquisitions (lasting hundreds of years and pursuing Jewish Spaniards into the New World) and culminating in the worst genocide in human history, perhaps there would have been no need to re-establish themselves in the ancient homeland in which they maintained a continuous presence throughout history. Through their heinous actions and continued prejudice, the world is responsible for this need and they are the same ones that begrudge the Jewish people their tiny homeland. Ironically, there are chants now for Jews to "go back to Poland" but when they were in Poland they were exhorted to go back to Palestine. Which is it?
@@rhodaberger7262 Please see these responses numbered in respect your four points:
1. Jordan is not a Palestinian state other than that it has a Palestinian majority. It is ruled by the Hashemites (who are a foreign dynasty) and the Circassian and Bedouin elite. Regardless, this is entirely irrelevant since Palestinians (just like the J*ws) have the right to live in their ancestral homeland (which was never Transjordan). If you are asking why Jordan treats Palestinians differently than ethnic Jordanians, it is to preserve the Bedouin and Circassian legal supremacy which was actually how the Hashemites unified the territory in the 1920s - when there were no Palestinians in Jordan and when the population of the territory was roughly 200,000 people. It’s important to understand that there is a historical and meaningful difference between the Fellah (settled peasant sharecropper Arab population) - which most Palestinians are - and the Bedouin (nomadic or semi-nomadic Arab population) and the two groups have longstanding enmities as the Fellah see the Bedouin as violent raiders and the Bedouin see the Fellah as resource hoarders.
2. Whether the Palestinians want a one-state solution or a two-state solution is independent of whether they have the right to be self-governing in their own land. Unreasonableness is irrelevant to cultural and governmental rights. There are some Israeli politicians and Zi*nist commentators who want a one-state solution to the exclusion of a Palestinian state and I believe that we would both agree that the presence of this unreasonableness does not invalidate the right for J*ws to self-govern.
3. Most people would argue that forcible displacement and ethnic cleansing of people was a morally bad idea that happened to be popular between 1918-1950. We shouldn’t implement morally bad ideas simply because they’ve been implemented before.
4. Whether J*ws have a right to state (and I would agree that they do) has no bearing on whether the Palestinians have a right to state.
The hardest thing you can do is face the real evil that exists in this world.
What’s that got to do with Islam?
@@gking407 You just proved my point.
@@whatsdoin2392 and you proved mine
Majority of Iranians are no longer Muslims. They stood with Israel since Oct 7. You can search for the video which shows that in a major soccer match when Islamic regime brought Palestine's flag as a solidarity with Palestine in the soccer field, they all chanted: "Palestine Flag, Shuffle to your a...s, shuffle to your a...s!"
She meant to say 'Repeating a lie often enough...till people believe it as a truth'.
Yep the NAZI gables doctrine... Now used by the phalestiNAZIs following the advice of the Russians
Sam is the best together with Douglas Murray in this topic.thanks for this interview.
@perkarlsson2833 this guys are the sources to learn about Islam and Israel 😂
As an ex Muslim I still don’t understand how anyone can back the notion of genocide FOR ANYONE. So why is Muslims the exception? Should our fellow ordinary Muslim really be bombed? Really?! I wish they could just coexist but that may be naive of me.
Yasmine has a podcast? I had no idea. Subscribed! BTW, Lookin great, gal! Thanks for this convo - a breath of fresh air in an otherwise stifling environment ☺️❤️
We need a major Ex-Islam Organization in the US, Canada and Europe where people can collaborate. Synergism will follow. Individuals will not have the strength and protection that comes from a large organization and will not be able to reach as far or do as much.