Numbers didn’t matter for the last decade when Drake ran shit but now when Kendrick album sells well it’s over for Drake ?? Joe gotta let that drake hate go
It's because numbers are meant to be Drake's world. So to outshine someone at what they specialise in especially withoug having to stoop as low as Drake does, means something. From Joe's analysis it's over for Drake which may be too excessive but let's not act like we don't understand what he is saying.
@@flacko_jody2130you can tell Drake wasn’t into the beef his songs weren’t as fun as his past beefs. That’s why J Cole got out early he wasn’t mad enough to be in the beef.
Done is Drake not being able to get his normal exposure! He doesn’t have the same gravitational pull! That’s done! And that’s the Done they’re talking about!
I’m glad the Dot fans even understand this a stupid take. The numbers are a fun talking point. It has no actual substance to anything regarding the beef
@@darnellstewart41very rarely for an artist whose dominated for over a decade. Hate sells more than love. He’ll be ok because he puts out so much music no matter what. They tried to kill him after the Pusha T beef and he was down for a second then dropped Scorpion which has been one of his most successful albums
@@KingKCA Pusha t wasn’t a big enough artist and he already was on his hit run prior to scorpion. Drake releasing a lot of music is actually the problem because people become tired of you after awhile. The label cares about public perception too and might not push you the same way if they notice decline and I think that’s what Joe is alluding to.
@@darnellstewart41 he’s looked at differently for sure, but at the end of the day you have to look at how Drake is moving after the beef. He’s making it worse on himself.
That’s before people found out he writes about 30% of his catalogue IF that. Remember Jt said you can say 1 word in the booth and get a writing credit😂
That was before the beef showed people who Aubrey really is. The beef framed a relatable picture in addition to Aubrey’s on lyrics who he is! He put his own foot in his mouth several times. What Joe is trying to say that if Kdot continues to open our eyes to industry plants via his music, it will make it hard to listen to anything Aubrey drops. Aubrey’s music hasn’t grown in 10-15 years. There’s no substance and the music is seeing a shift on the content the culture wants to hear. I’m here for it❤❤❤❤
Why do we always have to pick one? It's okay to like drake and kendrick lamar. It's okay to like nas and jayz. It's okay to like 50 cents and ja rule. You're a fan not part of their team just do what make you happy
I don't think you can compare the situations drake is jus corny pop star kendrick is for the people and lyrical genius I never considered drake hip hop
15 yrs of being on top and all that is negated if Dot sells 600k? This type of narrative is why the battle was never going to be judged fairly. Haters put skates on the goalpost
Theres haters like that on both sides though. Nobody gonna judge fairly when theyre stans, regardless of what side. Its hyperbole but i think they just mean kendrick will be the industry leader at that point
@@chrismalinowski654 kendrick wouldn't be the industry leader no matter what his next album does if we are being honest. Drake has been the most streamed rapper every month this year
@@chrismalinowski654you’re wrong tho, the drake stans don’t care about Kendrick cause that’s not their bop. There are some drake fans who understand dot is a better rapper but still gone rock with the boy. And then there is people like joe who been on drake dick long before the beef but now is acting like backing dot he got a bag from it something. Kendrick been the same nigga for a long time but folks acting like he new to the scene
@@Ikey504sales have always been discussed since at least the 2000s but these fellows on this pod are always mentioning how sales don’t matter. Hip hop culture is contradicting
@@snapcole6402 critically acclaimed literally has the word critic in it which an subjective word in itself. People who are critics are just speaking their opinions. When something is critically acclaimed it’s just praised by these people for various reasons . It has absolutely nothing to do with stats. Maybe google what the fuck it means before speaking
And this is why Kendrick can’t be top. Because the pressure people put on the person at the top is contradictory. People who make conscious music can’t be number one because people ain’t trying to hear that.
@@kevinbrown-pn4qmcap. That's what the people of the culture wants is conscious music and Kendrick isn't only just all lyrical miracle, he has a bunch of bangers too.
@@orendjohnsonjr people of what culture? Cant no one even describe the culture they keep talking about. If Kendrick is what the “culture” is feeling then he should have been numero uno cause he been the same artist for years now
@@kevinbrown-pn4qm Just know I'm not going to respond after this but this is an L rage bait. At least I hope this is rage bait because that was an illogical assertion you've assessed.
I fw Kendrick, but I don’t think it’s over for Drake regardless. Plus I dont think even Kendrick would do 600K, depending on who else drops the same day or weekend
Men comfortable with their masculinity don't hesitate to express love and appreciation for other men when applicable. Not doing so, in my opinion, is what is strange. Like when a grown man says, "No homo" or "Pause" after making certain remarks, I can't help but think that they must be struggling with their sexuality. Actual straight people don't feel the need to reassure others that they're straight.
Joe gotta hug Em. That needs to be fixed (in the public eye... anyway). This is just my opinion, though. I think it's a lot of love, respect, and conversation between those two. Outside listening/looking in that is. I'd love to see that mended.
What does Kendrick’s numbers have to do with Drake? Are we not allowed to have more than one successful artist in hip hop at a time?? No wander the genre’s barely hanging in there. Narratives like this only kill it faster
@@nhinged that’s called moving the goal posts to get your favorite to win. If this was about lyrics, which is Kendrick’s strong suit, Drake won, not just for being better, but Kendrick rapping a whole verse on an imaginary 11 year old daughter is just complete disqualification as far as I’m concerned. So yeah, if you want to make this rap beef about numbers and not lyrics, than keep that same energy moving forward and stop trying to arguing rap is about lyrics and not numbers when you literally just scored that latest rap battle that way for the first time ever.
@@ReelNinja1 Yes, bodied. Twice. And you never know if he’ll disappear, ain’t no party like a Diddy party and he’s been to plenty. And his music isn’t hitting like that. Don’t be so sure of yourself
@@J.C.3 Damn didn’t do over 700K it did a little over 600k Drake’s playlist that same year did over 500 though and his album the year before did a million and the one a year after did 700. Last year Drake did 400k and Travis did 500.
The way they sit around and try to decide when Drake fans are gonna decide to stop liking his music is hilarious. His csreer doesnt end just cuz you say so 😂
But mind you, shortly after the dot was declared the winner they all sat there and said drake “losing” doesn’t mean it’s the end for him lol. I absolutely can’t stand the contradiction that is hip hop
Here we go again. It was over for Drake when NLU dropped, the Pop out concert, the music video, then the Super Bowl. Now it’s album sales. Lol. Y’all gotta quit already.
You know it’s killing these dudes to realize that after all of this, Drake is still the biggest star in the world. Doesn’t really matter how many recorders Kendrick sell, especially when the majority will be purchased in LA. Meantime, Drake is doing world tours.
So numbers matter when it’s someone you like but when its someone you don’t like all of a sudden numbers don’t matter 😂😂😂😂😂 lol let Drake do 600k yall would laugh at him and say he fell off that just tell me the bar is low for Kendrick that’s all that tells me
When Drake was doing a Mili and Kenny 200k, numbers didn’t matter “Taylor swift sells a lot too, Drake is McDonald’s and KDot is artist” but now Kenny does half what Drake does and “it’s over for Drake” 🤡🤡
This is what I was talking about when I said the Drake vs Kendrick beef has made so many people lose their minds. Where's the integrity? Wasnt Joe screaming Drake praises a year ago? Now all of a sudden....nvmind. This is shameful though. Yall Kdot fans should be ashamed smh.
Nah, just certain ppl that don't worship him or live vicariously through him is tired of his act. He make music, besides that he's a lame. Money and fame don't change that fact 🤷🏾♂️
@@trillwill9735 It just means more people care less about Kendrick as an artist but more about what he is going to say in reference to Drake. So, if this beef never happened. We wouldn’t even hear about him selling 600k. On his own he can’t produce those numbers without controversy
@@michaeltindall6707 he did it with damn wym and that didnt have no controversy around it 😂😂😂 so clearly he can do it without it and he still sale over 200k thats alot more then average for alot of artist so controversy or nun he clearly up there for a reason 😂
@@michaeltindall6707 not my fault yall sleep on a good album in the first week that why i say it dont matter shit grow over time.and that goes for alot of other artists who sale lower 🤷🏽♂️just my opinion on music as a whole
That part. Some dude on fb lost the argument. When I told him that. Then gone reply back with wop wop. I'm like is that supposed to make me feel some way lol
Yea clb did 600k without bundles but it had over 2 years of promo & was off the heels of the kanye beef so theres some advantages there. Thats why all his albums since then hvwnt gotten close to that. HN did 200k, and FATD/Her Loss did barely 400k each. The fact kendrick did about 300k with a barely promoted album with almost no commercial appeal is crazy. He doubling it with the next album easy
@@chrismalinowski654 i partially agree. Drake promo for CLB was just him and his sissy haircut. Then you can't say "just 400k" cuz it is different when someone doesn't drop(especially someone like dot) to make numbers but costantly hittin them numbers is different... The consider that MMATBS is not even played that much
Drakes last 2 albums did 400k each. Kendrick did 300k on an album with no commercial appeal. Now imagine what he does when the album drops full of west coast bangers after this big rap beef?
If Kendrick sells 600k+ doesn’t that prove Drake (beef) revived his career? I’m a fan of both, but I don’t think Kendrick’s (original) fans view this uprising as “earned.” It’s kind of piggybacked (imo).
Shit wild. Yall say Drakes numbers don’t matter but talking numbers with Kendrick. If he sells over 600k, good for him, With all the hype he has right now from beefing with Drake,, he should do numbers right now. But to think it’s over for Drake is stupid. He is still doing hella numbers. Drake not going anywhere. Kendrick cannot replace Drake at all.
Explain the 6 hundred thousand plus Kendrick Damn sold the first week and Drake Scorpion that year selling 379,000 the dirst week. Explain Kendrick having then highest grossing Hip Hop tour ever. You two PDF lovers.
@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve Explain the 6 hundred thousand plus Kendrick Damn sold the first week and Drake Scorpion that year selling 379,000 the dirst week. Explain Kendrick having then highest grossing Hip Hop tour ever. You two PDF lovers.
You gotta imagine if a project is coming it has to be soon. I don’t think it’ll be a secret drop at this point that works better when the artist hasn’t been around and anticipation to hear ANYTHING is high. I feel like we get another single or song drop something to maybe preview what the album is going to be and then a few weeks later it’s out. I’m more curious if the album will be a theme or a story..I feel like it won’t be. It’s gotta be an album that can have stories and some themes but I feel like it has to be a mix of everything he’s put out since OR we go something completely different, and if you do that then it has to be phenomenal because you can’t drop a album received meh before Super Bowl. If he drops before SB it has to be on fire and continue the wild ass year and responses he has done. Dude takes time to write too, an album a project of his gets worked on for months or years, so much material gets scrapped or in the vault, so many conceits or ideas conceived or thrown out. With this whole year you have to imagine if he was in the process of album time before, that this year has shaped or changed what will be on it. The safe play is just 1 or 2 more songs that get the industry talking as he has done this far and announce album is out tonight America Super Bowl go listen right now
Over for Drake? How 🤔, Drake who's done over a milli first week. America's rap really been suffering due to Drake's dominance, everybody hating for that now they want him to fall flat very fast 😂.
How does Kendrick’s numbers hurt Drake….is this how it’s going to be from now on. Anytime one of them does something it’s a strike against the other…..that stupid.
the industry needs a new cash cow, and the battle was for who is going to be the new number 1. no i dont think everything they is a shoot at each other but the fight for to top isnt over.
@@JB_561 i agree with you on that, but hiphop is at cross roads it has change it sonically or it going to be over in the coming years. Kendrick doesnt need to be a long term cash cow he just needs to be a bridge for the next person they pick.
Drake has been on top for 15 years. Joe just hates drake. Kendrick would have to drop 3x classic albums that all do well over 500k to even be int he convo. He sat on the bench half his career. 4x albums in 14 years and 2 of em brixxx
Joe so damn Drake obsessed. The Boy sold 732,000 first week with Scorpion, no bundles or deluxe. When Kendrick does his numbers, it’s good for him and doesn’t affect anyone else.
Joe i actually only heard of you through eminem and i know that is disrespectful. i appreciate that content that you put out and i respect your views and hustle.
Nah that Super Bowl is going to have millyof people tuning in he drops the album around that time along with drops leading up to the album he’s going to hit 600,000 numbers easy.
I'm a Dot stan but the album should've come out in May-June. You're right. Had he done that, we wouldn't be talking 600,000, we'd be talking a million sold. Easy.
Youre actually on crack. If mr morale did 295k with no promotion/hype behind it, what makes you think kendricks next album only doing 300k-400k. 400k is the absolute minimum but i think he def doing 500k. Dont matter how long he waited, he fleshed out not like us and gave it the full lead single rollout, the song is still hot months later and if he dropped in say june/july he wouldve stepped on his own single
At this point dudes get they rocks off just saying drakes name 🤦😂 if kendrick sells good thats credit to him but dont make it about drake 😕 .kendrick success shouldnt be based off beefing with drake kdot in the public eye can do no wrong so if he sells well thats do too he talent nothing else.
There’s nothing anyone can do to end drake unless we find out he’s really a pdf file drake will forever be considered one of the greatest artists of all time
All time? Forever? 😂😂 I understand his fans really like the music his team creates for him, but artist? He doesn't write, and can’t sing or dance. He plays instruments or something? He seemed like he could be a good actor. One of the best streaming artists of all time, sure. Streaming is still pretty new.
@@Msboochie2 only artist with more number 1 hits is Mr Jackson and he will most likely pass him you can hate Drake that’s fine but the numbers are history
@@Msboochie2 he’s written for so many artists and hit songs for them at that. How can you say he doesn’t write when he’s literally written top 10 songs for OTHER artists
These men are so sad and think that what they say and think matter. Good Lord! His music has nothing to do with Drake! He is an artist that many people love and respect. I love that Kendrick operates the way he does!
There is no such thing as it's OVER for Drake so knock it off mane. Kendrick can't make bangers like Drake and he doesn't even want to so ain't no OVER for Drake
Joe is iterally the only person on Earth who deserves that first Kendrick Lamar innterview after everything is said and done. He is deserving of it and he is the most qaulified to initiate the rigjt dialog.
@@DuzypriiceeKendrick sold more Actual tickets, Drakes tickets cost more and he sold a lot of merch for those numbers in cost difference but More fans went to see Kendrick
@@EnchantedAlchemist88 UR actually not intelligent. SO you're saying more people are willing to pay more for Drake and obviously stats show that Drake has a bigger fanbase, but you're saying that's a positive for Kendrick? Are you alright.
@@EnchantedAlchemist88 Kendrick went on a world tour. Drake’s was a North American tour. I would hope Kendrick sold more total tickets. If you go look at numbers, Drake tour did better in North America, with higher ticket prices. Drake was selling more seats and performing 2-3 nights in a row in venues that Kendrick was performing 1 night at. Drake was selling 20-30k seats back to back night at venues Kendrick did 10k seats in one night. The total ticket sales aren’t even far off. Drake sold about 800k and Kendrick did about 900k tickets and Drake didn’t have to leave the country. Kendrick did about 70 shows and Drake 50 shows.
Based on Kdots current drive right now, he is going to do about 700K-1M. His momentum is crazy right now and having everyone’s attention AND the Super Bowl adding to the pie, it would be shocking to NOT see Kendrick do 700K+.
These dudes are delusional even with the halftime performance Kendrick is not doing anywhere near 600000 with the way that he's been making song he's had one good song with they not like us outside of that Kendrick had been on some slow 90s Jazzy hip-hop that's been kind of boring. I get the feeling that Kendrick is going to try to do another Mr morale
He needs to drop that intro song from the not like us video
For real
I think about that opening song often.
Yes broccoli
@@queen.actualme too
Yes! Broccoli 🥦
If Kendrick on them West Coast bounce beats he will easily sell and the songs will be in rotation. That West Coast funk is undefeated when done right
@Kickinthescience NO IT AIN'T. Quit letting Kendrick psyche you out
It actually is ,stop the hating @@Scorpius-fr8qh
@@Scorpius-fr8qhfound another hater.
@@Scorpius-fr8qhYeah ur right west coast funk never had impact on the culture . Look at The Chronic.
@@Scorpius-fr8qhSay Drake...
Numbers didn’t matter for the last decade when Drake ran shit but now when Kendrick album sells well it’s over for Drake ?? Joe gotta let that drake hate go
Facts, dude is shameless
Joe still sour about Drake bodying Joe in his younger days when they were beefing.
It's because numbers are meant to be Drake's world. So to outshine someone at what they specialise in especially withoug having to stoop as low as Drake does, means something. From Joe's analysis it's over for Drake which may be too excessive but let's not act like we don't understand what he is saying.
@@_HeebeJeebe_Drake never bodied Joe, stop✋️😂.
Agreed!!
The whole purpose of Kendrick dropping new song is to end this Drake beef talk, people still stuck on that
Kenny’s objective is to change rap. Drake was just cannon fodder
Yea because Kendrick had Clear drake disses in the song and this has been going on for a decade. Drake fans want it to be done so bad😅
Exactly they didn’t even congratulate him with out the mention of Drake… slap in Kendrick’s face.
@@flacko_jody2130you can tell Drake wasn’t into the beef his songs weren’t as fun as his past beefs. That’s why J Cole got out early he wasn’t mad enough to be in the beef.
I don’t understand how people don’t see ANY shots at Drake on the last one. He most DEFINITELY still speaking to that dickhead.
Drake will never be done. Stop the 🧢 and I’m a Kendrick fan. Two different lanes
Done is Drake not being able to get his normal exposure! He doesn’t have the same gravitational pull! That’s done! And that’s the Done they’re talking about!
I thought he said Drake was already over lol. Joe talks about Drake every other podcast the last 9 years
DIDDY JOE STOP HIDING
He hates drake and he hates that he hates drake 😂
LOOOL been talking about drakes career for his career over a decade this crazy
He Loves him!
This is objectively not true.
I’m glad the Dot fans even understand this a stupid take. The numbers are a fun talking point. It has no actual substance to anything regarding the beef
As a Kendrick Stan even if he sells a million first week which he won’t Drake will be fine, that’s stupid to say Drake would be done lol
Public perception is a thing and it’s been working against drake lately. Just looking at rap history bouncing back after a beef isn’t guaranteed
@@darnellstewart41very rarely for an artist whose dominated for over a decade. Hate sells more than love. He’ll be ok because he puts out so much music no matter what. They tried to kill him after the Pusha T beef and he was down for a second then dropped Scorpion which has been one of his most successful albums
@@KingKCA Pusha t wasn’t a big enough artist and he already was on his hit run prior to scorpion. Drake releasing a lot of music is actually the problem because people become tired of you after awhile. The label cares about public perception too and might not push you the same way if they notice decline and I think that’s what Joe is alluding to.
He’s talking about the current GOAT debate, not drake being “done”
@@darnellstewart41 he’s looked at differently for sure, but at the end of the day you have to look at how Drake is moving after the beef. He’s making it worse on himself.
Drake is to Joe what Lebron is for Skip Bayless
Not even close my guy, not even close😂😂
That was the dumbest comparison of all time!
The King of Akron
Joe is more like Drake's tahiry 😂
Facts 😂
He sold 600k with the damn album and it wasnt over for Drake.
Drake sold 1M and it wasn’t over for Kendrick. Joe sounds like a real idiot for this take
Thank you glad someone said this!
That’s before people found out he writes about 30% of his catalogue IF that. Remember Jt said you can say 1 word in the booth and get a writing credit😂
That was before the beef showed people who Aubrey really is. The beef framed a relatable picture in addition to Aubrey’s on lyrics who he is! He put his own foot in his mouth several times. What Joe is trying to say that if Kdot continues to open our eyes to industry plants via his music, it will make it hard to listen to anything Aubrey drops.
Aubrey’s music hasn’t grown in 10-15 years. There’s no substance and the music is seeing a shift on the content the culture wants to hear. I’m here for it❤❤❤❤
That was before his battle with Kendrick
Why do we always have to pick one? It's okay to like drake and kendrick lamar. It's okay to like nas and jayz. It's okay to like 50 cents and ja rule. You're a fan not part of their team just do what make you happy
I don't think you can compare the situations drake is jus corny pop star kendrick is for the people and lyrical genius I never considered drake hip hop
For the people 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Sam-mr2sythat's your opinion and a small one cause it's affected him none. What we are saying it's irrelevant what you feel, step into reality
I agree you can like both artists .. does this happen in any other music genre ?
💯 some are way too invested with zero return. Just enjoy the show.
Yeah Kendrick should drop his album Super bowl Sunday
He shoulda been dropped by then. Need to be dropping something else that weekend 😂
@@XLBeats810 I bet that made you feel good huh? like you achieved something for once in your life huh? well here you go🥳 🏆 🎊🎈
The friday prior to the Super Bowl
He can't, the labels are closed November through February, only way he can is if he does it independently.
He is desperate for Drake to fail.
Yep. Joe is a hater
It’s ridiculous
Drake must have dubbed that nigga right before Kendrick dropped his first diss cause Joe energy for drake was different
Jealousy
Drake already failed
It’ll never be over for Drake because Joe talks about him every podcast
Literally 😂😂
And so does every Drake hater on this planet 😂 along with every “Kendrick fan” they can’t stop talking about Drake to save their lives
@@SupportTheLittleGuy2 side of the same coin
Until it’s snd then he won’t have a reason too.
😂😂😂😂😂
15 yrs of being on top and all that is negated if Dot sells 600k? This type of narrative is why the battle was never going to be judged fairly. Haters put skates on the goalpost
Theres haters like that on both sides though. Nobody gonna judge fairly when theyre stans, regardless of what side. Its hyperbole but i think they just mean kendrick will be the industry leader at that point
@@chrismalinowski654 kendrick wouldn't be the industry leader no matter what his next album does if we are being honest. Drake has been the most streamed rapper every month this year
The very fact the sales are being mentioned at all shows how low hip hop has fallen
@@chrismalinowski654you’re wrong tho, the drake stans don’t care about Kendrick cause that’s not their bop. There are some drake fans who understand dot is a better rapper but still gone rock with the boy. And then there is people like joe who been on drake dick long before the beef but now is acting like backing dot he got a bag from it something. Kendrick been the same nigga for a long time but folks acting like he new to the scene
@@Ikey504sales have always been discussed since at least the 2000s but these fellows on this pod are always mentioning how sales don’t matter. Hip hop culture is contradicting
Kendrick is more critically acclaimed and artistic. Drake sales more. They both are goated in their own right.
💯
And frank ocean is more critically and makes better music than Kendrick. shit is all subjective
@@diamondsare4evermore critically acclaimed” isn’t subjective bud that’s backed by stats
@@snapcole6402 critically acclaimed literally has the word critic in it which an subjective word in itself. People who are critics are just speaking their opinions. When something is critically acclaimed it’s just praised by these people for various reasons . It has absolutely nothing to do with stats. Maybe google what the fuck it means before speaking
Lol
J. Cole has an album in the works🤫 and will probably wait until the dust settles between Drake and Kendrick Lamar 🤔 4:29
Say that again bro😢
Please nah bruh i dont wanna wait for the Cole music
I can believe it .. …
Yeah he will probably wait till everything settles down
Let’s be honest, no one is really interested in the fall off now after Cole withdrew from the beef. His verses have literally fallen off since
Kendrick isn't about numbers it's more about the music
And this is why Kendrick can’t be top. Because the pressure people put on the person at the top is contradictory. People who make conscious music can’t be number one because people ain’t trying to hear that.
@@kevinbrown-pn4qmnot in a long time yes
@@kevinbrown-pn4qmcap. That's what the people of the culture wants is conscious music and Kendrick isn't only just all lyrical miracle, he has a bunch of bangers too.
@@orendjohnsonjr people of what culture? Cant no one even describe the culture they keep talking about. If Kendrick is what the “culture” is feeling then he should have been numero uno cause he been the same artist for years now
@@kevinbrown-pn4qm Just know I'm not going to respond after this but this is an L rage bait. At least I hope this is rage bait because that was an illogical assertion you've assessed.
I fw Kendrick, but I don’t think it’s over for Drake regardless. Plus I dont think even Kendrick would do 600K, depending on who else drops the same day or weekend
I'll be back on this comment a week after his album drops lol
My pfp is of your goat 🐐
And DAMN. sold over 650k in its first week. And you love pdf files
@@dbfuture4881 Fair. I can be wrong, even about Kendrick. I hope he does go over 600K
When Kendrick drop, the world is going to stop. It is what it is
I see a single coming this year with video before the Super Bowl and the album after.
You're incredible, don't stop creating videos!
Shelly Frank-qh5or aka the bot 😂
Joe being the “where my hug at?” dude for other men is insane 🤣
He is grown so he knows that life is short. He needs to show the people he appreciates love. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm here for it....secure.
Men comfortable with their masculinity don't hesitate to express love and appreciation for other men when applicable. Not doing so, in my opinion, is what is strange. Like when a grown man says, "No homo" or "Pause" after making certain remarks, I can't help but think that they must be struggling with their sexuality. Actual straight people don't feel the need to reassure others that they're straight.
Yall soft, sensitive ass mfs really in yall soapbox under here 😂. It really ain’t that deep.
Yall soft, sensitive a s s dudes really on yall soapbox. It ain’t that deep 😂
Kendrick Lamar did bundles for damn 🤦🏽♂️
Joe gotta hug Em. That needs to be fixed (in the public eye... anyway). This is just my opinion, though. I think it's a lot of love, respect, and conversation between those two. Outside listening/looking in that is. I'd love to see that mended.
What does Kendrick’s numbers have to do with Drake? Are we not allowed to have more than one successful artist in hip hop at a time?? No wander the genre’s barely hanging in there. Narratives like this only kill it faster
Cause beefs have a battle and a war
Drake only slight edge is numbers so if he lose that the war done and kdot won all
@@nhinged that’s called moving the goal posts to get your favorite to win. If this was about lyrics, which is Kendrick’s strong suit, Drake won, not just for being better, but Kendrick rapping a whole verse on an imaginary 11 year old daughter is just complete disqualification as far as I’m concerned. So yeah, if you want to make this rap beef about numbers and not lyrics, than keep that same energy moving forward and stop trying to arguing rap is about lyrics and not numbers when you literally just scored that latest rap battle that way for the first time ever.
Maan Drake better just go away. I love all this
You really hate Drake huh? Over a rap song? wow smh
@@showmecreationsmultimedia been a Drake hater since day one. Know yourself is 🔥 tho 💀
Lol yall remember when Kendrick DID sell over 600k and it WASNT over for Drake ? Lmao
That was before Aubrey got bodied twice.
@@Vibesstar007imbackbodied? Most people are in it for the fun of a battle…only a few are hoping to see Drake disappear. It won’t happen
@@ReelNinja1My pfp is of your goat 😂
I'm your goat. Whatdoyathink?
@@ReelNinja1 Yes, bodied. Twice. And you never know if he’ll disappear, ain’t no party like a Diddy party and he’s been to plenty. And his music isn’t hitting like that. Don’t be so sure of yourself
How many times are y'all gon say "it's over for Drake"
We get it damn
It’s over for Drake.
Kendrick already sold over 600k tho right? Didn’t damn get 700?
@@J.C.3 Damn didn’t do over 700K it did a little over 600k Drake’s playlist that same year did over 500 though and his album the year before did a million and the one a year after did 700. Last year Drake did 400k and Travis did 500.
No @@J.C.3
@@King-zb2iv he did over 610k
Wishful thinking on your part, Joey
kendrick sells 149 with no bundle. save this we'll come back to it
Joe trynna hug Kendrick like he’s Puff
For real 🤣
Joe was partying with Puff. Fela Kuti Freak Off
Joe should be less worried about Drake and more concerned with the tracks Diddy about to drop 😂
The way they sit around and try to decide when Drake fans are gonna decide to stop liking his music is hilarious. His csreer doesnt end just cuz you say so 😂
😂😂😂 let Joe get his hate off. He saying anything atp
It doesn't but just like Drake did some meek Mill Kendrick can do the Drake. It's about the perception that the rap beef has
But mind you, shortly after the dot was declared the winner they all sat there and said drake “losing” doesn’t mean it’s the end for him lol. I absolutely can’t stand the contradiction that is hip hop
They talk about Drake every fucking pod lol
Facts, For as much as people in hip hop claim to hate the boy, literally everyone talks about him, he generates income for EVERYONE
Coz he still claims to be Big as the What? Lol guess what... not anymore! Wop wop wop wop wop wop wop
@@LEGREEKINGFORDTV. Y do yall think saying that makes it like u won or something. Cause all it does make yall look slow 😂😂😂
Here we go again. It was over for Drake when NLU dropped, the Pop out concert, the music video, then the Super Bowl. Now it’s album sales. Lol. Y’all gotta quit already.
Facts, they just need clicks
Lmao exactly
Over in what way?
@@SatanaelKurusu I have no idea. That’s what I’m still tryna figure out. Every week they come up with a new reason.
It was supposed to be over after Pusha T
“Pocket watching, you must be the police.”
People been saying it’s over for Drake for 10 years it’s not over for Drake until Drake start flopping
so you're not aware of his recent 10 to 15 songs that is not charting? well at least two of them will call one was it 60 and the other ones at 69
There's way less than 10@@stephaniewilliams1764
You know it’s killing these dudes to realize that after all of this, Drake is still the biggest star in the world. Doesn’t really matter how many recorders Kendrick sell, especially when the majority will be purchased in LA. Meantime, Drake is doing world tours.
So numbers matter when it’s someone you like but when its someone you don’t like all of a sudden numbers don’t matter 😂😂😂😂😂 lol let Drake do 600k yall would laugh at him and say he fell off that just tell me the bar is low for Kendrick that’s all that tells me
Your argument has a lot of flaws but just let it go, it's done, Aubrey has been buried, go heal 😭😭😭😭
@@jefcergos my perspective has no flaws u just chat n
Facts.!! 🎯🎯
When Drake was doing a Mili and Kenny 200k, numbers didn’t matter “Taylor swift sells a lot too, Drake is McDonald’s and KDot is artist” but now Kenny does half what Drake does and “it’s over for Drake” 🤡🤡
u haven't realized yet that your standing amongst Aubrey's 🪦, the flowers are wilted the dirt has hardened and grass has grown, so give it a rest.
Joe wants to hug Diddy.
Ish's face during Joe's hug philosophy class had me weak lmao
This is what I was talking about when I said the Drake vs Kendrick beef has made so many people lose their minds. Where's the integrity? Wasnt Joe screaming Drake praises a year ago? Now all of a sudden....nvmind. This is shameful though. Yall Kdot fans should be ashamed smh.
Nah, just certain ppl that don't worship him or live vicariously through him is tired of his act. He make music, besides that he's a lame. Money and fame don't change that fact 🤷🏾♂️
“If”….
Pause on the hug list 😂
I think he dropping in February after the SB
Numbers didn’t save drake from losing the battle so why is anyone still worrying about numbers
Of course if it sells high it’s because people want to hear what he has to say after the whole Drake beef. They aren’t really organic sells
I mean if they waiting to hear it then it is. it dont matter the reason real people tuned in to listen🤷🏽♂️
@@trillwill9735 It just means more people care less about Kendrick as an artist but more about what he is going to say in reference to Drake. So, if this beef never happened. We wouldn’t even hear about him selling 600k. On his own he can’t produce those numbers without controversy
@@michaeltindall6707 he did it with damn wym and that didnt have no controversy around it 😂😂😂 so clearly he can do it without it and he still sale over 200k thats alot more then average for alot of artist so controversy or nun he clearly up there for a reason 😂
@@trillwill9735 That’s when he was still on the upswing. His last project did not sell 600k and if he never dissed Drake he would ever see 600k again.
@@michaeltindall6707 not my fault yall sleep on a good album in the first week that why i say it dont matter shit grow over time.and that goes for alot of other artists who sale lower 🤷🏽♂️just my opinion on music as a whole
It’ll never be over for Drake because yall can’t mention Kendrick without mentioning Drake now a days. 🤦🏽♂️
That part. Some dude on fb lost the argument. When I told him that. Then gone reply back with wop wop. I'm like is that supposed to make me feel some way lol
Drake been running The Game without bundles.
CLB did 600k +
What Scorpion😂
DAMN did 600k + as well..point?
Yea clb did 600k without bundles but it had over 2 years of promo & was off the heels of the kanye beef so theres some advantages there. Thats why all his albums since then hvwnt gotten close to that. HN did 200k, and FATD/Her Loss did barely 400k each. The fact kendrick did about 300k with a barely promoted album with almost no commercial appeal is crazy. He doubling it with the next album easy
@@virgoenergy6636 with bundles
@@chrismalinowski654 i partially agree. Drake promo for CLB was just him and his sissy haircut. Then you can't say "just 400k" cuz it is different when someone doesn't drop(especially someone like dot) to make numbers but costantly hittin them numbers is different... The consider that MMATBS is not even played that much
I believe the less drops the better for album numbers
To pretend like Drake and Kendrick are peers when it comes to numbers is akin to saying Mahomes has peers in the NFL. No wayski.
Lamar?
They are tho. Kendrick is the only other hip hop artist to sniff the numbers drake does
@@DreArnessdoesn’t sniff nearly, prolly closest he’s the second but not nearly
Drakes last 2 albums did 400k each. Kendrick did 300k on an album with no commercial appeal. Now imagine what he does when the album drops full of west coast bangers after this big rap beef?
@@chrismalinowski654drake also has over 300 billboard hot 100 songs and an album that sold 1.2 first week it’s not even close
Kendrick finna drop that shit during October
If Kendrick sells 600k+ doesn’t that prove Drake (beef) revived his career? I’m a fan of both, but I don’t think Kendrick’s (original) fans view this uprising as “earned.” It’s kind of piggybacked (imo).
Trust me, ain't nobody really buying kendricks music.
Ooooh, so NOW the numbers are important, huh?
Interesting... **files nails**
right!! lololol
Because OVHOOOOOEEEEEEES Constantly talk about numbers? This isn't even Kendricks take? Lmao. Clowns
Shit wild. Yall say Drakes numbers don’t matter but talking numbers with Kendrick. If he sells over 600k, good for him, With all the hype he has right now from beefing with Drake,, he should do numbers right now. But to think it’s over for Drake is stupid. He is still doing hella numbers. Drake not going anywhere. Kendrick cannot replace Drake at all.
Drake is Kendrick’s rollout
"Your forst number 1 i had to put it in your hand"
Explain the 6 hundred thousand plus Kendrick Damn sold the first week and Drake Scorpion that year selling 379,000 the dirst week. Explain Kendrick having then highest grossing Hip Hop tour ever. You two PDF lovers.
@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve Explain the 6 hundred thousand plus Kendrick Damn sold the first week and Drake Scorpion that year selling 379,000 the dirst week. Explain Kendrick having then highest grossing Hip Hop tour ever. You two PDF lovers.
But Drake can not roll his self out now. Smh
@@PaballoKobe-xh9veDrake can not put a hit in his own hand now
Mr. Morale is a damn good album too. Did 200k first week is crazy!!
That hug part at the end was weird af lol
You gotta imagine if a project is coming it has to be soon. I don’t think it’ll be a secret drop at this point that works better when the artist hasn’t been around and anticipation to hear ANYTHING is high. I feel like we get another single or song drop something to maybe preview what the album is going to be and then a few weeks later it’s out. I’m more curious if the album will be a theme or a story..I feel like it won’t be. It’s gotta be an album that can have stories and some themes but I feel like it has to be a mix of everything he’s put out since OR we go something completely different, and if you do that then it has to be phenomenal because you can’t drop a album received meh before Super Bowl. If he drops before SB it has to be on fire and continue the wild ass year and responses he has done. Dude takes time to write too, an album a project of his gets worked on for months or years, so much material gets scrapped or in the vault, so many conceits or ideas conceived or thrown out. With this whole year you have to imagine if he was in the process of album time before, that this year has shaped or changed what will be on it. The safe play is just 1 or 2 more songs that get the industry talking as he has done this far and announce album is out tonight America Super Bowl go listen right now
I gotta start hugging people
🫂
Joe sound like a dude in high school saying "where my hug"
As a Kendrick Stan he won’t even sell 400k if the album is that of TPAB or MMTBS style(conscious) unless it is of GKMC or DAMN style(commercial)
Itll definitely be gkmc/damn style
Ugh, why does youtube keep recommending this bs. We used 'not interested' this shit.
Hip Hop isn’t about sales. Never will be.
In your opinion.
@@twoface9024 Well, yeah. The geeks and uninitiated care. Fans who cheered on Vanilla Ice, Hammer, FloRida, etc. I can’t relate.
@@mindbully Eminem says otherwise
@@mindbully In your opinion.
@@Alwaysbelieve619 Read a quote from Em where he’s bragging about sales. I’ll wait.
He should perform ADHD at the superbowl…my favorite DOT song
Over for Drake? How 🤔, Drake who's done over a milli first week. America's rap really been suffering due to Drake's dominance, everybody hating for that now they want him to fall flat very fast 😂.
Yep
Drake has never sold over a million in the first week.
I thought he was gonna pull out a whole hug list when he looked at his phone 🤣🤣🤣
He’s not selling no 600😂
He’s already done that lol 😂
On crack if you dont think its a possibility
@@lovelyla85once Drake got a mil
@@Ilikeyourcontent2258 yeah we know lol
He praising a guy that doesn't even compare to Drake😂Joe is insane
How does Kendrick’s numbers hurt Drake….is this how it’s going to be from now on. Anytime one of them does something it’s a strike against the other…..that stupid.
the industry needs a new cash cow, and the battle was for who is going to be the new number 1. no i dont think everything they is a shoot at each other but the fight for to top isnt over.
That's how dry hip hop and rap is. Dried out beef is still talked about like it's yesterday. Drake won't be felted by anything kendrick does anyway.
@@JimGee-sl5ptKendrick will never be the long term cash cow. The world isn’t fans of hardcore/conscious rap like that people just stuck in the moment
@@JB_561 i agree with you on that, but hiphop is at cross roads it has change it sonically or it going to be over in the coming years. Kendrick doesnt need to be a long term cash cow he just needs to be a bridge for the next person they pick.
I hope Drizzy drops the album of the year 15 minutes after Kenney drops his lil sheit.
Last time drake did bundles he sold a million +
True. Views was so heavily promoted too, it was teased for years and that was also coming off a big rap beef with meek
Facts
Drake has been on top for 15 years. Joe just hates drake. Kendrick would have to drop 3x classic albums that all do well over 500k to even be int he convo. He sat on the bench half his career. 4x albums in 14 years and 2 of em brixxx
Did Joe talk about diddy I can’t find it ?
Not yet. He's on vacation.
5:16 It’s crazy he has to have this beef and a superbowl presence just to have to do these numbers Joe is anticipating.
What does kendrick album sells have to do with drake? If this is the case then that means kendrick needs drake to stay relevant?!?!?
Joe so damn Drake obsessed. The Boy sold 732,000 first week with Scorpion, no bundles or deluxe. When Kendrick does his numbers, it’s good for him and doesn’t affect anyone else.
Joe i actually only heard of you through eminem and i know that is disrespectful. i appreciate that content that you put out and i respect your views and hustle.
Fuck no Kendrick doing between 300-400k he waited too long
Nah that Super Bowl is going to have millyof people tuning in he drops the album around that time along with drops leading up to the album he’s going to hit 600,000 numbers easy.
I'm a Dot stan but the album should've come out in May-June. You're right. Had he done that, we wouldn't be talking 600,000, we'd be talking a million sold. Easy.
A million aint getting sold by anyone this era unless they drop like 20 alternate vinyls like taylor swift did.
Are you crazy kendricks never had this much momentum before especially with damn and that did over 600k
Youre actually on crack. If mr morale did 295k with no promotion/hype behind it, what makes you think kendricks next album only doing 300k-400k. 400k is the absolute minimum but i think he def doing 500k. Dont matter how long he waited, he fleshed out not like us and gave it the full lead single rollout, the song is still hot months later and if he dropped in say june/july he wouldve stepped on his own single
At this point dudes get they rocks off just saying drakes name 🤦😂 if kendrick sells good thats credit to him but dont make it about drake 😕 .kendrick success shouldnt be based off beefing with drake kdot in the public eye can do no wrong so if he sells well thats do too he talent nothing else.
Second single is not fire just saying
That last hug for Puff, he won't be able to do that now
So this isn’t glazing ?? Lmao yall so fake
Kendrick going to do 600k and Drake will do 400k good numbers for both
There’s nothing anyone can do to end drake unless we find out he’s really a pdf file drake will forever be considered one of the greatest artists of all time
All time? Forever? 😂😂 I understand his fans really like the music his team creates for him, but artist? He doesn't write, and can’t sing or dance. He plays instruments or something? He seemed like he could be a good actor. One of the best streaming artists of all time, sure. Streaming is still pretty new.
@@Msboochie2 only artist with more number 1 hits is Mr Jackson and he will most likely pass him you can hate Drake that’s fine but the numbers are history
@@Msboochie2he just won a songwriters award literally yesterday you bum
@@Msboochie2 he’s written for so many artists and hit songs for them at that. How can you say he doesn’t write when he’s literally written top 10 songs for OTHER artists
These men are so sad and think that what they say and think matter. Good Lord! His music has nothing to do with Drake! He is an artist that many people love and respect. I love that Kendrick operates the way he does!
There is no such thing as it's OVER for Drake so knock it off mane. Kendrick can't make bangers like Drake and he doesn't even want to so ain't no OVER for Drake
Budden is delusional, Kendrick would do 450k TOPS.
Probably more if he do the vinyls too and the superbowl cuz remember people percent go up crazy
@@blackbarbie1880his most recent album didn’t even touch 300k..?
Yeah his azz DEFINITELY over tweakin' but you're being nice with the 450k TOPS but I get what you're saying
@@zaicustis my projection includes vinyls and SuperBowl clout..He would probably do 300k without those and that’s okay.
@@Oxymera 300k nah travis Scott just sold that with a old album I doubt that love
Naaah! 6:45 the cut to ish got me 🤣
I would be good with 2 and a slight commercial jingle ...... the wait makes the drop even better in my opinion as a KENDRICK FAN!!!!
Joe is iterally the only person on Earth who deserves that first Kendrick Lamar innterview after everything is said and done. He is deserving of it and he is the most qaulified to initiate the rigjt dialog.
Nah its nardwuar
Joe is definitely qualified but how you gonna diss Big Boy like that haha
It's hilarious hearing Joe talk so seriously about who he wants to hug haha
joe feels vindicated through kendrick but that doesn't change the fact that kendrick doesn't sell like that.
Lol since when? Highest grossing solo tour of any rap artist.
@@Tabularasa1996 Drake broke that record 3 times with US tours. Ppl think it’s amazing cuz Kendrick did it once with a world tour. 🤣
@@DuzypriiceeKendrick sold more Actual tickets, Drakes tickets cost more and he sold a lot of merch for those numbers in cost difference but More fans went to see Kendrick
@@EnchantedAlchemist88 UR actually not intelligent. SO you're saying more people are willing to pay more for Drake and obviously stats show that Drake has a bigger fanbase, but you're saying that's a positive for Kendrick? Are you alright.
@@EnchantedAlchemist88 Kendrick went on a world tour. Drake’s was a North American tour. I would hope Kendrick sold more total tickets. If you go look at numbers, Drake tour did better in North America, with higher ticket prices. Drake was selling more seats and performing 2-3 nights in a row in venues that Kendrick was performing 1 night at. Drake was selling 20-30k seats back to back night at venues Kendrick did 10k seats in one night. The total ticket sales aren’t even far off. Drake sold about 800k and Kendrick did about 900k tickets and Drake didn’t have to leave the country. Kendrick did about 70 shows and Drake 50 shows.
Based on Kdots current drive right now, he is going to do about 700K-1M. His momentum is crazy right now and having everyone’s attention AND the Super Bowl adding to the pie, it would be shocking to NOT see Kendrick do 700K+.
in this era, 600k for a hiphop album is wild
It won't happen of course. At most450k
Halftime drop to download album instantly would drum up 6 figures ASAP!
You talking bout your boy Mal.
See this is corny asf
ITS NEVER GOING TO BE OVER FOR DRAKE 😂😂😂😂😂
These dudes are delusional even with the halftime performance Kendrick is not doing anywhere near 600000 with the way that he's been making song he's had one good song with they not like us outside of that Kendrick had been on some slow 90s Jazzy hip-hop that's been kind of boring. I get the feeling that Kendrick is going to try to do another Mr morale
Can’t stand his chipmunk voice a few songs are good but I get bored listening to a kdot playlist
Damn did 600k it all depends on the sound he knows fans only wanna hear bops so if he wants to do that he could easily sell