Todd Pepin thanks a lot for the feedback!! I have a couple more tutorial style videos on my channel, there is a playlist on my main page if you want to check them out. Plenty more tips and tricks videos coming soon!✌️
Really nice video. When I explain bracket racing I like to get out timeslips and show how I won/lost a race based on the numbers. So that could be helpful if you show an actual slip and say who had the better light and what not.
Appreciate the video gonna try this again. Did it in my 2005 Grand Prix GXP front drive. What held that car back was the 4 auto with a 2.92 final. With a few upgrades intake-programmer-shift kit-3 inch down pipe-stock cat-deleted resonator-added a chambered muffler where that was-deleted rear mufflers to SLP tips-lowered 1.8 front and 1.7 rear-it was around 350hp at the motor. Best run on Federal SS595 at 22 lbs. was a 13.9@99mph. Could not break 100 due to it wouldn't get out of 2nd gear. First time I ran bracket I was averaging 14.3 that night. Dialed that in and must have hit a good light broke out by .3 ran 14.0@98 1.8 60 ft. Miss that car that LS4 sounded mean. We had one guy turboed to 500hp his was running 12.0@119. What if you run slower than your dialed in time does that count as a breakout or is it only if you run faster?
Finally..... I was so tired of trying to explain this to my friends. I'm gonna make them all watch this when they ask. Most tracks I've been to do double red lighting the same way. A few didn't though.
haha... I'm glad you got some value out of it!! looking back, I should really make a fresh version of this video... not quite up to my standards now days!! 😁
great video , here is the part that's confusing me is the Race Track ad box and no box is easy but if you have a 6 sec 1/8 th mile or 9.5 1/4 mile car how do you know if you can race somewhere in what the race track ad says , i think i know but its still a bit of race car lingo that I'm new to . Thanks Jerry
I have a question. I have a 1986 Monte Carlo super sport modified small block mild roller cam for 17 hp 446 foot pounds of torque at 4200 RPM. I am having trouble red lighting. I’m doing what I believe is called shallow staging I pull up until the second light just comes on and I stop a launch at 1200 RPM this is an automatic car. I hate the throttle as soon as the yellow light comes on and I’m offing getting the red light could someone suggest a way to solve that it seems difficult for me to find exact spot during the yellow light to hit the throttle with repeatability. Bill
So do drag racers use their peripheral vision or their central vision for the lights, I ask because reaction times are supposed to be faster using peripheral vision
Or you could be closer to your dial and over your dial and still lose to someone who also goes over their dial. This happens when they have a superior reaction time makes up for their top-end variance.
I can't understand why bracket racing is a thing. Most if what you're doing is racing yourself as in your time. And also your reaction time. Why put all that money into your car to make it fast when all you have to do is get a good reaction time and hit your dial in. I don't get the appeal. Head to head is way more gratifying. Who has the fastest machine. Just balls to the wall. That's exciting
To me if you beat someone I want to beat them by a lot not by a little bit.....I guess I'll never understand bracket racing or maybe I'm just so used to heads-up racing that I just can't understand bracket racing....lol....I wish I understood better.
Well their dial must be posted on their car before passing the ready line, before pulling into the burn out. So after that point the dial in is locked. But if you mean what if they post a dial that is actually slower then what they think they can run, then they are "holding" some time. This means that they are going to either need to run the finish line really well and hope to have the better light, otherwise they will end up breaking out trying to get there first.
03:55 - Hey. That yellow🚖car keeps red🔴lighting. He already lost twice. Did a little Heads Up racing last year. In a rental. 2019 Camaro 2ss 10 auto. 93 octane with a shot of 107 race. Tires at 35 front and 22 rear. 1.7 60ft launch control at 2000 rpm on street tires and best run at 12.30@115. Mustang this year. Think had learned how to shallow stage and ran the fronts at 45 to help rolling resistance and the rear a tad higher say 28 I could have run a bit faster. That trick I read from Hot Rod when they ran the 18 Mustang 10 auto to an 11.8 at almost 120. I beat their 60 ft. www.hotrod.com/articles/drag-testing-the-2018-ford-mustang-gt/
Great video. The wife and I probably watched 5 "intro to bracket racing" videos before this, this was hands down the best.
Todd Pepin thanks a lot for the feedback!! I have a couple more tutorial style videos on my channel, there is a playlist on my main page if you want to check them out. Plenty more tips and tricks videos coming soon!✌️
Great explanation. Never bracket raced before and I understand it perfectly now. 👌🏼
You did a Great job explaining bracket racing. I really enjoyed your presentation and the clarity you brought to this subject.👍👍
Really nice video. When I explain bracket racing I like to get out timeslips and show how I won/lost a race based on the numbers. So that could be helpful if you show an actual slip and say who had the better light and what not.
Great explanation of bracket racing. Everything makes sense now. Thanks!!
You can also disqualify yourself by crossing the centerline. At some tracks, crossing the centerline trumps red lighting and breaking out.
Yep. "First or Worse"
Appreciate the video gonna try this again. Did it in my 2005 Grand Prix GXP front drive. What held that car back was the 4 auto with a 2.92 final. With a few upgrades intake-programmer-shift kit-3 inch down pipe-stock cat-deleted resonator-added a chambered muffler where that was-deleted rear mufflers to SLP tips-lowered 1.8 front and 1.7 rear-it was around 350hp at the motor. Best run on Federal SS595 at 22 lbs. was a 13.9@99mph. Could not break 100 due to it wouldn't get out of 2nd gear. First time I ran bracket I was averaging 14.3 that night. Dialed that in and must have hit a good light broke out by .3 ran 14.0@98 1.8 60 ft. Miss that car that LS4 sounded mean. We had one guy turboed to 500hp his was running 12.0@119.
What if you run slower than your dialed in time does that count as a breakout or is it only if you run faster?
To be honest you can run dead on but you need that reaction
absolutely right man 👍
Thanks for explaining the Bracket Racing now understand what it is going on at the Drag strip when is a Bracket Racing Tournament.
Why don't tracks run test & tunes for bracket racers, with dial-ins, so Racers can learn top end racing without the pressure of the actual race?
Finally..... I was so tired of trying to explain this to my friends. I'm gonna make them all watch this when they ask.
Most tracks I've been to do double red lighting the same way. A few didn't though.
haha... I'm glad you got some value out of it!! looking back, I should really make a fresh version of this video... not quite up to my standards now days!! 😁
Thank you that helps allot on understanding bracket racing
no problem man! plenty more tips and tricks on the channel 👍
great video , here is the part that's confusing me is the Race Track ad box and no box is easy but if you have a 6 sec 1/8 th mile or 9.5 1/4 mile car how do you know if you can race somewhere in what the race track ad says , i think i know but its still a bit of race car lingo that I'm new to . Thanks Jerry
I have a question. I have a 1986 Monte Carlo super sport modified small block mild roller cam for 17 hp 446 foot pounds of torque at 4200 RPM. I am having trouble red lighting. I’m doing what I believe is called shallow staging I pull up until the second light just comes on and I stop a launch at 1200 RPM this is an automatic car. I hate the throttle as soon as the yellow light comes on and I’m offing getting the red light could someone suggest a way to solve that it seems difficult for me to find exact spot during the yellow light to hit the throttle with repeatability. Bill
Other ways to lose: cross the center line, break down, or the starter nails you for excessive braking on the top end.
So now I finally get bracket racing.. never understood it till I watched this video.
George Singletary glad it helped someone!! 😁
I love head up racing but I'm starting to get into the bracket racing.
George Singletary it can be really addicting once you get into the competitive side of it! Good luck my friend!
Yes it is very much so even more that I understand it a lil better.
My daughter calls them gogos too I've never heard that anywhere else before
So do drag racers use their peripheral vision or their central vision for the lights, I ask because reaction times are supposed to be faster using peripheral vision
So it’s not about who gets closer to their dial in, but who crosses first without breaking out?
correct, you could be closer to your dial and lose if you break out..
Or you could be closer to your dial and over your dial and still lose to someone who also goes over their dial. This happens when they have a superior reaction time makes up for their top-end variance.
Always wondered, great explanation.
Dictum Factum thank you my friend! 🤘
I can't understand why bracket racing is a thing. Most if what you're doing is racing yourself as in your time. And also your reaction time. Why put all that money into your car to make it fast when all you have to do is get a good reaction time and hit your dial in. I don't get the appeal. Head to head is way more gratifying. Who has the fastest machine. Just balls to the wall. That's exciting
What if you have a slower reaction time but are closer to the dial in
You could run your exact dial and still get beat to the finish line if your reaction time is considerably slower than your opponents.
Thunder Valley dragway in Parker SD?
DIRTY yes sir
Took my first passes drag racing at that track 2 weeks ago. Had a blast and really think they got a nice facility down there. I'm in Sioux City
DIRTY sweet!!! Yeah we hit pretty much all their regular points races
To me if you beat someone I want to beat them by a lot not by a little bit.....I guess I'll never understand bracket racing or maybe I'm just so used to heads-up racing that I just can't understand bracket racing....lol....I wish I understood better.
Ah, come on. The Chevelle has got to be faster than the rice burner.
Good video, thanks.
He looks like a vegan librarian but he knows racing!
Clarification...quicker = time , whereas, faster = mph.
SUBARU LEGACY IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!
Thanks for the video
You can't cross the mid-line either, 3ways. Otherwise GREAT vid!
So what if they lie about their dial time
Well their dial must be posted on their car before passing the ready line, before pulling into the burn out. So after that point the dial in is locked. But if you mean what if they post a dial that is actually slower then what they think they can run, then they are "holding" some time. This means that they are going to either need to run the finish line really well and hope to have the better light, otherwise they will end up breaking out trying to get there first.
03:55 - Hey. That yellow🚖car keeps red🔴lighting. He already lost twice. Did a little Heads Up racing last year. In a rental. 2019 Camaro 2ss 10 auto. 93 octane with a shot of 107 race. Tires at 35 front and 22 rear. 1.7 60ft launch control at 2000 rpm on street tires and best run at 12.30@115. Mustang this year. Think had learned how to shallow stage and ran the fronts at 45 to help rolling resistance and the rear a tad higher say 28 I could have run a bit faster. That trick I read from Hot Rod when they ran the 18 Mustang 10 auto to an 11.8 at almost 120. I beat their 60 ft. www.hotrod.com/articles/drag-testing-the-2018-ford-mustang-gt/
Nice garage
THANKS 🤘
Yup
Nice shirt.
I never want to wear it because I don't want to ruin it!
Nice shirt dude! #1x
Dale Scates now you need a shirt like that! Glad to see the new champ is hangin’ out on the channel!! 🤘😁
🤙 😎 I need one fo sho. Grip it n rip it buddy!!
Thanks gallstone
Sounds like you could loose more then win
Ty
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