At 3:00 with the close in, fast flyby, was your power cut completely??? All incould here was a soft, subtle, " WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH". . . . . .& then, "RRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH. . . . .!!!", Full power! That bird is a US Airforce F-16 Figbting Falcon. They use or used the same powerplant as the US Navy's F-14 Tomcat!!! Alright there "BOUNCE". . . . . .!!! Are you Top Gunning or what???!!!??? Tower DID NOT give you your requested fly-by!!! You pull that stunt again & you'll be flying a C-130 Cargo plane full of dog crap outtuh Hong Kong. . . . .DO YOU READ ME PILOT???!!!??? I . . . . . . . . .CANT. . . . . . . HERE. . . . . . .YOU. . . . . . . . . . .!!!
All my AS3X units are crashed that's because I built an entire business just rebuilding and repairing brand new ARF's that were crashed by folk who did not know better - that said and my disdain for Spektrum aside can you just stop buying the same planes I do, I swear we are 10 for 10 lol. I am vacuum molding a 2 seat canopy (this is supposed to be a F-16B, they even added the additional ejection placards) and putting the more scale longer wing tip tracks or longer sidewinders. I am convinced I can devise a practical landing gear that looks the part for this thing, lets just hope BG gets my F-16 to me while I'm still passionate about it. Another full build vid done! Thanks Brian and creew
Nice! I would love it if this plane could be wheels up, wheels down, BUT you know it's gonna be too heavy for the 3S power system...maybe a small 4S might get the job done?
I had to look it up, but now I hear it - LOL - usually I'm just accused of being Jack Black - LOL! I think Petrincic Bros RC - a fellow RC peir, and great group of fun loving Slovakian ;)
Repertoire sounds like, "Repi-Twah". 👍 Love the videos. I'm definitely flying vicariously through you until I can afford to jump in. Cool robot voice from your mic during the unbox 👍 static? Thanks again!!
I have a question. I have 3 planes 1 hobby grade, I have a eachine Corsair, top race Cessna, and a Carbon cub s 2 1.3m and I’m wondering what I should get next. Any ideas or good planes I should get(doesn’t have to be Brian to answer)
I like that they made it very scale looking. In order to get extra air into the duct fan, then had air coming from under the plane without enlarging the duct. And finish is not styrofoam like.
I bought this.... (I’m not sure what to call it. EPO foam in the shape of an F-16?) before Brian posted this video. Mine came as a Kit instead of the PNF version I thought I ordered. No motor, no esc, no servos... a day after the build, now I’m grateful the control horns were already on and they included pushrods. If this EDF survives the maiden and the belly landing I’ll be blown away. No chance in hell the nose cone and wing mounted rockets survive the first landing. Sorry ArrowsRC, Horizon Hobby, Freewing and Flightline, I strayed. It won’t happen again.
That launch chewed up the elevator wires he had no elevator. Looks like Brian has all the wires pulled forward where The Sailors had some loose enough for it to fall back into the fan to chew the wires.
@@philipriding ya brian sent the f16 like a champ! I think one should launch with their strong hand. With you being left handed thats nice cause you can be on the right stick all the time I am fairly cordinated but since im right handed I have never tried a left hand launch. I seem to be able to get on the right stick fast enough.
The other thing is that with edf's I allways give em a real good look over because of the strong suction thru thier body's. Rc saylors maybe didnt do this? The wires getting sucked or unplugged in flight isnt a new problem with edf's
Sorry for all the questions but is there a way to secure the ESC with the wing spar? If not all i have to do is pull the wires tight and that should keep the jet from pulling a nate? Thanks
Been using gyros with self level, adjustable setup from transmitter long before Spektrum showed up for the party, acted like they invented it and then charge twice as much. Frsky SR6 gyro/receiver is about $30. Works with Radiomaster or Jumper multi-mode 16 channel transmitters with color LCD screens for about $200. Fully adjustable gains and gyro setup from transmitter. Oh and these radios can also work with Spektrum receivers and gyros including Spektrums "forward programming" setup from transmitter. Nothing against Spektrum other than the price. Been looking at this Eachine F-16 for awhile and your review is the first I have seen. Love the looks of it but frankly there is a lot of 64mm PNP stuff that is about the same or close price point that make this less attractive. Right now I would go for the T7A which is less money and so far looks a bit better than this eachine bird.
FrSky's S#R gyros suck compared to Spektrum's. They'll self-level, but they don't have bank-limiting to keep your plane from getting upside-down. You'd think with the calibration process you have to go through that the S#R's would know when the wing is vertical. I ended up having to decrease the throws to about 40% to keep my plane from getting upside-down if I accidentally held the stick over too long.
Whenever you need more throw, go out on the servo arm instead of in on the control horn. The further the pushrod is from the control surface, the better..
MORE THROW (less precision)... Out on the Servo Arm And/Or In on the Control Surface Control Horn LESS THROW (More Precision)... In on the Servo Arm And/Or Out on the Control Surface Control Horn
@@BrianPhillipsRC 1. Shortening the control horn can lead to flutter because the control surface can exert more force on the pushrod. 2. When you move the pushrod in on both the servo and control horn, it doesn’t travel as far and any slack becomes a larger percentage of the total travel. 3. You’ll get the same throw with a 3/4” horn and 3/4” servo arm as you’ll get with a 3/8” horn and a 3/8” servo arm, but the force applied to the pushrod will be half as much with the 3/4” horn and arm. 4. The shorter the control horn, the more leverage the control surface will have over the linkage.
So my poor p51 that hit a Powerline and was totalled happens to have an AR631. I always shied away from pnp just bc i didnt feel like messing with receivers so we shall see how this goes in a couple weeks when i pick one up
Hi there i have a quick question if you can help me.In my region only the kit version is available.If i buy it should i buy a 50mm edf unit with the two screw holes on each side or a regular 50mm edf unit with no screw holes that i have will fit ? Thank you for your help my friend!
I've used them before many times ;) Servo Signal Reversers (Horizon Hobby) bit.ly/2QQBTbI Servo Signal Reversers (Amazon) amzn.to/3qgEqHF Servo Signal Reversers (Banggood) bit.ly/3tkn9yN Servo Signal Reversers bit.ly/2QQBTbI HH / amzn.to/3qgEqHF AZ / bit.ly/3tkn9yN BG
The sales blurb for this says that the wings are quick attach and removal - I don't think you need to glue them just push fit - I am thinking I might use some Magnets to hold the wing in place.... mind you it is so small why not do what you have and glue it ...
I hear what you're saying, but not a chance ;) It's a dinky plane anyway...maybe for a big plane, I could see some clips, but man, this plane would be scary with a wing coming off mid-flight!!!!
If you can fly planes, fixed wing, this plane is pretty easy...just not gonna have a long shelf life, since it's a belly lander. My issue with belly landers, is that they necessarially get beat up every time you fly them. Are you wanting something EASY to fly, there's this F-15 might be a BIT better choice for a non-plane flier... F15 bit.ly/30RrnlG
You should put the landing gear because I don’t want you to crash it when you land so it’s a good I idea to put the landing gear so it will be easier when you hand launch. But I do like how it flies.
I wouldn't do this as a first EDF, but you could if you wanted. I want WHEELS UP, WHEELS DOWN for any "first"...but this plane is not bad flying, only that I think it'll be a bit of a challenge to keep looking GREAT, which it DOES!
I’ve noticed that you regularly run the batteries down to sub 10%. Doesn’t that hurt the battery? I normally run my smart batteries to 25-30%. Is that too conservative?
You can discharge them as much as you want, so long as you don't get the cells dipping much below 3.2 or 3.1 - which I DO occasionally do. Also, depends on your risk tolerance
You could, but the F-18 by eachine is better...for similar price point. I would highly recommend the Arrows 50mm's before these. F16 50mm bit.ly/3Kga0Av + AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD F18 50mm bit.ly/3mm9xSY + AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD OR BAE Hawk bit.ly/3pSmp4v + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w T-33 bit.ly/3DuVOPp + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w Viper bit.ly/3uinxlD + AR630 bit.ly/3rkGZMI
I have the 64mm Elite F-16 and it flies beautifully!! Super stable and slows down nicely for landing, but can be pretty speedy when you want it to be. :) From what I can tell, the F-16 flies very similar to Eflite F-15 Mr. PhillipsRC... ;).... reviewed previously.
Are you insane? Open the box and fly it The safe system works really good, just make sure you have the elevator flaps tilted up like 30 ° or it will nosedive and rather more wind than less is better so you can land it at walking speed without much effort
This is a different plane, for a bunch of reasons... 1) 4S vs 6S 2) 70mm (or 80mm) vs 50mm 3) Retracts vs No Gear 4) Weight 5) Cost It's not really a good comparison at all. If the Eflite 70mm or 80mm were no gear, it would be more similar.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Actually, I was referring to the 64mm 4S version I got on Horizon Hobby clearance for $129.99. I think they're at @ $179. now. Anyway, they look about same size. This has stick in gear, but I plan to fly hand toss., with no gear. lol. Anyway, I thought you flew one of these. It already has a Spectrum 636B receiver with safe,(that made hard to pass for $130) so it's comparable what you did, only it's tuned for the F16, and it sounds like you aren't through dialing that receiver in, to work with the F16 flight characteristics. I know it's 64mm vs 50mm, but looked awful close in size, although this Eachine F16 looks smoother, a real looker! Thanks for all you do, John
Hey Brian, I was on the fence about getting this (or the F18, since they're listed on BG as using 1300-1500, battery sizes that I don't fly) until I saw your videos flying the planes on 3S/4S 2200. Your referral link goes to the PNP version, but I'd prefer to get the kit version (gonna drop in an FMS motor and an Avian esc), do you still get the referral from BG if I use the link to get the kit version?
23:57. I have a theory that these companies bought out some molds from companies that went out of business, hence the phantom landing gear molded section. I have an Ares p51 and my grandfather has the Volantex 768-1 p51. They are pretty much identical p51 airplanes. I would bet that maybe this f16 was made by a different company and theirs might have had a real wheel for the landing gear. I think Volantex and Eachine are made in the same factory.
No, I specifically DID NOT re-program it, but if I had, that MIGHT be okay....all depends on what direction the output of the original elevator setup was...and it might be different. If I were to put in an AR630 or AR631 - I could setup this plane super sweet ;)
Ah, a fellow F-16 snob! LOL. I think I'll grab one of these and repaint it with one of the more common deployed unit schemes. Can't beat it for the price. And I know it's capable nowadays, but I still can't get used to AMRAAMs on the wingtips. Sidewinders, man! Sidewinders! :)
Hey Alex! Don't know when Brian will see your comment, so I just checked for him... the plane itself is 386g. 513g with the battery we used. Hope that helps!
Thanks Anthony! Glad you're here with us. I would VERY GLADLY review Freewing, but MotionRC won't work with us. I'm afraid they must think we're a bit too honest, and therefore too risky??? I used to assume they were a pretty stand up company, but after years, and now many other companies, we're working with, it kinda wireds me out that they're one of the FEW companies that WON'T work with us...
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for getting back to me, much appreciated. That’s a real shame. I think your videos show a very balanced opinion on how these products really are and it helps people get an honest opinion before purchasing some of these planes. Once again cheers for the great reviews and big props to “camera crew”-Ant
Lovely plane , but the only think I don’t like is no undercarriage, I love the look of planes with the wheels down. It sure can take the G’s I’m surprised the wings didn’t fold the way you pull up at speed. I might be tempted to buy one if there is an undercarriage version.
Damnit Brian!! Why couldn't you have put this video out 2 days ago when I bought this plane?? That way I could've used your link 😞 Good to know it's gonna fly well. I'm really excited. Also, shipped out very quick. I've been wondering this tho.. Do you think a 2200 would be at all possible?? Like if I put the receiver all the way up front? Thanks for the video and tip/tricks dude!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Sorry. That video is about a year (and probably 50 Chinese translated planes) ago. Referred to the build instructions. Love the videos so much, I ignore the dates!
Question for anyone. I have the aeroscout and really not a big fan of the plane. Don't like the speed of it . Not comfortable with the speed I have to keep to keep it flying. What would you guys recommend for a slower flyer. Thus I'm selling the aeroscout.
Pretty cool jet. So is it hard to set up a smart receiver in a pnp? Got a omp bighorn I want to put a smart receiver in. I tryed To put a receiver from my timber x in it. And did not end good. Lol. Went in the air Wings wiggle back and Fourth violently and piched up Stalled and nose dived. Lol. Only flew it three times. I bought another one though. Now they are usually out of stock and waaaay more expensive. I payed for my first one ummm 279 Pnp. It was toatled. Broke in have. Broke in pieces. (balsa wood plane). Then bought my recent one off bang good 390 For a kit.
I start out with 30, 40, and 50 percent gyro gain for aileron, elevator, and rudder. If I feel like it needs more, I'll increase all of them by 10% until I start to see the wingtips oscillate when I stop a roll or at higher speeds. Once I see oscillation, I decrease them by 5% until it quits. Generally, the ailerons will oscillate first, followed by the elevator, and then the rudder. That's why I use 10% more on the elevator than the ailerons and 10% more on the rudder than the elevator. When setting up a gyro, you must make sure it corrects in the proper direction. If you raise a wingtip, the aileron on that tip should deflect upward. And if you raise the tail, the elevator should deflect upward. IOW, the gyro must move the surface in the same direction that you moved it.
@@ruger1420 There’s an RCGroups thread on putting a SAFE receiver in a different plane. Look for the user “flightengr”. There are also YT videos by RC Air Marshall..
As soon as we have a company to work with. These would be way out of our budget, but AMAZING! I'd like to start flying (Full scale) and my next attempt will be powered paragliding, but not sure when this will happen. I'd like to end up with an ultralight that we can fly from the back of our property, but PPG will be a lot more practical for our lifestyle at the moment.
Sorry, mic feedback issue, we think. Might be the shirt Camera Crew was wearing...we think...not 100% sure yet. The Rhode mics clip on and they can pull away from her chest and cause a strange noise.
Thanks ;) LOL - Nate and Abby worked hard to get where they are, but they do leave me scratching my head some times. Thanks for being here with us Doc ;)
Cool jet. I watched the Sailors struggle with theirs so I wasn't sure. I love little Jets though and that one seems like it flies great. Must be an F-16 thing
Cat's out of the bag - I'm actually a droid. I should have been more forthright with our wonderful audience, but if I admitting to be partial robot/alien, I think my appeal would be lessened, and the leaders on the mother ship might ask me to come home - LOL
LOL - I would have done it, but it was just that the SAFE upside-down mounted Rx extravaganza, had the plane pointing TOO MUCH down when I would have let off the sticks - so I was like " NO GO!!! " - glad I made that call, but would be real cool to see still!!!
cool, i just flew my F16 mini ... but hey, i'm not a big fan of the PNP versions. PS: today I also crashed my carbon cub s2 1.3 sniff. the nose totally crushed. I will make a video of the damage ....
Every now and then I hear a weird noise when you talk, is it a joke or is it my video? Also do you think this could be a beginner EDF jet(anyone can answer this doesn’t have to be Brian)
We were having an issue with our lav mics, and we have since resolved the cause, but there are still many video published with this strange noise. Sorry about this!
I know!!! We're totally baffled??? We tried to replicate it again the other night with NO LUCK. It's so strange, and also real irritating - we don't usually re-watch 100% of the videos, we just watch short clips to verify all the cut's get in the video, so I was super bummed to hear that I was going all Techno-Freaky - LOL
Cute Lil F-16... Don't Suck In A Starling or Your Wires Like Nate! 🤣 Hey Brian, What About Them 2-New Banggood a380 & 747 Commercial Jets, Each w/4 30mm Prop-Fan Mini-EDFs + Big Red LEDs In Ducts On A Little Bigger Than The War-Birds Series Planes, I Told You About Them A Couple Weeks Ago w/Links! Butt Maybe F#@Kin Y-Tube Killed That Post??? 😎
There are other F-16 that might be preferable, but this is very fun, and love the scale looks. Wish it was a BIT more powerful, which would save on the difficulty of flying. Power saves rc lives ;)
You think it's weak? I think it flies pretty GREAT ;) I think I should have put an AR631 in there, to make it better still. I wonder if I could SQUEEEEEEZE a 64mm in there??? OR just try her on 4S - If it catches fire, it might be a good show at least - LOL!
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Robot voice sporadically throughout this video, check your audio set up for next time.:-) Happy Flying&Building!
THANKYOU ♥️👍
All right appreciate it Brian and Camera crew😉
At 3:00 with the close in, fast flyby, was your power cut completely??? All incould here was a soft, subtle, " WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH". . . . . .& then, "RRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH. . . . .!!!", Full power! That bird is a US Airforce F-16 Figbting Falcon. They use or used the same powerplant as the US Navy's F-14 Tomcat!!!
Alright there "BOUNCE". . . . . .!!! Are you Top Gunning or what???!!!??? Tower DID NOT give you your requested fly-by!!! You pull that stunt again & you'll be flying a C-130 Cargo plane full of dog crap outtuh Hong Kong. . . . .DO YOU READ ME PILOT???!!!??? I . . . . . . . . .CANT. . . . . . . HERE. . . . . . .YOU. . . . . . . . . . .!!!
All my AS3X units are crashed that's because I built an entire business just rebuilding and repairing brand new ARF's that were crashed by folk who did not know better - that said and my disdain for Spektrum aside can you just stop buying the same planes I do, I swear we are 10 for 10 lol. I am vacuum molding a 2 seat canopy (this is supposed to be a F-16B, they even added the additional ejection placards) and putting the more scale longer wing tip tracks or longer sidewinders. I am convinced I can devise a practical landing gear that looks the part for this thing, lets just hope BG gets my F-16 to me while I'm still passionate about it. Another full build vid done! Thanks Brian and creew
Nice! I would love it if this plane could be wheels up, wheels down, BUT you know it's gonna be too heavy for the 3S power system...maybe a small 4S might get the job done?
Gotta love the humor
"Environmentally friendly !
Probably was gonna send it back
I am so relieved"
I'm glad you enjoyed it ;)
When you say “yea baby” you sound like Norbert from Angry Beavers 😂 cool video
I had to look it up, but now I hear it - LOL - usually I'm just accused of being Jack Black - LOL!
I think Petrincic Bros RC - a fellow RC peir, and great group of fun loving Slovakian ;)
Yup I can hear Jack black too 😂
Repertoire sounds like, "Repi-Twah". 👍
Love the videos. I'm definitely flying vicariously through you until I can afford to jump in. Cool robot voice from your mic during the unbox 👍 static?
Thanks again!!
LOL - Thanks ;) P.S. I HATE SAYING "Repertoire" - I can't seem to get it right EVER!
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I have a question. I have 3 planes 1 hobby grade, I have a eachine Corsair, top race Cessna, and a Carbon cub s 2 1.3m and I’m wondering what I should get next. Any ideas or good planes I should get(doesn’t have to be Brian to answer)
There are so many GREAT choices. Are you wanting an EDF Jet or a Prop plane?
@@BrianPhillipsRC I want a jet but I feel a prop plane would be better, so probably a prop
I'm glad you got it I been waiting I was disappointed with the rc sailors video of it but I know what to look for when I get one
Ya the rc saylors! Haha left hand launch was too wimpy!😲😝💯
My comment was disallowed by the Camera Crew for good reason - LOL!!!!!
I like that they made it very scale looking.
In order to get extra air into the duct fan, then had air coming from under the plane without enlarging the duct.
And finish is not styrofoam like.
4S might just make it SWEET!
That is a good looking Jet!❤️ thanks for another great video you two!
You're welcome, and so much more coming ;)
Hahaha "What is going on!?!?? There's like a million birds!!!!"
I thought I was in an Alfred Hitchcock flick all of a sudden!!!
Hahah that was great
Are we all gonna ignore that sick cobra he did at 2:41?
Love your videos and this jet 😀 !!! Do you know if you can fly this jet 3S and 4S ???
yes. We've done those videos already - check the playlist and you can see.
I need a backyard flyer!! this is perfect! A video of your collection would be a nice treat.
It's getting pretty crazy down there - but soon ;)
dont buy
I bought this.... (I’m not sure what to call it. EPO foam in the shape of an F-16?) before Brian posted this video. Mine came as a Kit instead of the PNF version I thought I ordered. No motor, no esc, no servos... a day after the build, now I’m grateful the control horns were already on and they included pushrods.
If this EDF survives the maiden and the belly landing I’ll be blown away. No chance in hell the nose cone and wing mounted rockets survive the first landing.
Sorry ArrowsRC, Horizon Hobby, Freewing and Flightline, I strayed. It won’t happen again.
Sure, You can get it as a KIT or PNP, we opted for PNP in this case ;)
Rc saylors tried a left hand launch with this one and was too weak of a toss!😲😝good job Brian!
That launch chewed up the elevator wires he had no elevator. Looks like Brian has all the wires pulled forward where The Sailors had some loose enough for it to fall back into the fan to chew the wires.
@@jwoocrew ya I knew that, but his launch was weak and the plane stalled before he could even use his elevators.
I see that, it was a bit weak. I launch left handed as I’m left handed.😶
@@philipriding ya brian sent the f16 like a champ! I think one should launch with their strong hand. With you being left handed thats nice cause you can be on the right stick all the time I am fairly cordinated but since im right handed I have never tried a left hand launch. I seem to be able to get on the right stick fast enough.
The other thing is that with edf's I allways give em a real good look over because of the strong suction thru thier body's. Rc saylors maybe didnt do this? The wires getting sucked or unplugged in flight isnt a new problem with edf's
Sorry for all the questions but is there a way to secure the ESC with the wing spar? If not all i have to do is pull the wires tight and that should keep the jet from pulling a nate? Thanks
If you want too, you can use a zip tie. I know Nate had issues with this.
Been using gyros with self level, adjustable setup from transmitter long before Spektrum showed up for the party, acted like they invented it and then charge twice as much. Frsky SR6 gyro/receiver is about $30. Works with Radiomaster or Jumper multi-mode 16 channel transmitters with color LCD screens for about $200. Fully adjustable gains and gyro setup from transmitter. Oh and these radios can also work with Spektrum receivers and gyros including Spektrums "forward programming" setup from transmitter. Nothing against Spektrum other than the price.
Been looking at this Eachine F-16 for awhile and your review is the first I have seen. Love the looks of it but frankly there is a lot of 64mm PNP stuff that is about the same or close price point that make this less attractive. Right now I would go for the T7A which is less money and so far looks a bit better than this eachine bird.
FrSky's S#R gyros suck compared to Spektrum's. They'll self-level, but they don't have bank-limiting to keep your plane from getting upside-down. You'd think with the calibration process you have to go through that the S#R's would know when the wing is vertical. I ended up having to decrease the throws to about 40% to keep my plane from getting upside-down if I accidentally held the stick over too long.
Yes, we just reviewed that too, and you're 100% right! T-7A 64mm bit.ly/3s3eKRp
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS VIDEO THANKYOU FOR POSTING SIR
You bet! Great little plane!!!
Whenever you need more throw, go out on the servo arm instead of in on the control horn. The further the pushrod is from the control surface, the better..
MORE THROW (less precision)...
Out on the Servo Arm
And/Or
In on the Control Surface Control Horn
LESS THROW (More Precision)...
In on the Servo Arm
And/Or
Out on the Control Surface Control Horn
@@BrianPhillipsRC
1. Shortening the control horn can lead to flutter because the control surface can exert more force on the pushrod.
2. When you move the pushrod in on both the servo and control horn, it doesn’t travel as far and any slack becomes a larger percentage of the total travel.
3. You’ll get the same throw with a 3/4” horn and 3/4” servo arm as you’ll get with a 3/8” horn and a 3/8” servo arm, but the force applied to the pushrod will be half as much with the 3/4” horn and arm.
4. The shorter the control horn, the more leverage the control surface will have over the linkage.
Just purchased the NX8 through your affiliate link to support the channel. 👍🏻😎
Thanks! You will LOVE it ;) We really appreciate you doing it too ;)
So my poor p51 that hit a Powerline and was totalled happens to have an AR631. I always shied away from pnp just bc i didnt feel like messing with receivers so we shall see how this goes in a couple weeks when i pick one up
One issue tho is on the bnf models you cant change gain and stuff so i hope it works lol
On the AR631 you can factory default them ;) BUT you need that programming cable.
Would it be necessary to factory reprogram it or no
Wow i am waiting for mine , thanxs for the fast review =)
Enjoy
Off topic, just signed up for Starlink last night. Thanks for your review, and this one too.
It is AWESOME! We love ours and SO glad to have it!!!
Nice, can't wait to see if you can do the magic on this plane.
Glad you're checking it out!
Just a note to those interested in this EDF. It's on sale at Bangood for $104.00 PNP till 1/29/2022. Ships from USA. Great deal.
F16 50mm bit.ly/3Kga0Av
AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c
3S 1300 bit.ly/2Ue0dWC
NX bit.ly/3mbVuNB
Definitely ordered through your link. Although, I won't get to fly it for a few months with this weather. I will go with the 630 though.
I caught the reference there at around 32:23 - laughed my head off.
Glad you caught it!
Hi there i have a quick question if you can help me.In my region only the kit version is available.If i buy it should i buy a 50mm edf unit with the two screw holes on each side or a regular 50mm edf unit with no screw holes that i have will fit ? Thank you for your help my friend!
I'm really sorry, but I'm not sure! Wish I knew how to answer, but I don't know.
Nice!. I was interested in this plane was waiting for your review. Might just pull the trigger on it.
Should - it's NICE - did you see the coupon code we added ;) TOP PINNED COMMENT
Yupp Thank you sir! I'll make sure to use your link!
Might i suggest using reverse cables when you are using the old safe recievers .. Works for me every time.. Im sure you no tho..
I've used them before many times ;)
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THANKS I needed to order more.. lol
The sales blurb for this says that the wings are quick attach and removal - I don't think you need to glue them just push fit - I am thinking I might use some Magnets to hold the wing in place.... mind you it is so small why not do what you have and glue it ...
I hear what you're saying, but not a chance ;) It's a dinky plane anyway...maybe for a big plane, I could see some clips, but man, this plane would be scary with a wing coming off mid-flight!!!!
Canopy popping off doesn’t mean they died the pilot just ejected 😆
Hey Brian thanks for the comment on the horizon one. Probably out of my league now. What about this one for a 15 year helicopter guy?
If you can fly planes, fixed wing, this plane is pretty easy...just not gonna have a long shelf life, since it's a belly lander. My issue with belly landers, is that they necessarially get beat up every time you fly them.
Are you wanting something EASY to fly, there's this F-15 might be a BIT better choice for a non-plane flier...
F15 bit.ly/30RrnlG
As always…thanks for HONEST reviews 👍🇺🇸👍
You bet! Thanks Cliff
You should put the landing gear because I don’t want you to crash it when you land so it’s a good I idea to put the landing gear so it will be easier when you hand launch. But I do like how it flies.
It doesn't have landing gear - What are you talking about??? Did I miss something (Are they offering landing gear at Banggood???)
No I’m sorry I was confused because some of the F-18 had landing gear but it was a mistake sorry I was confused
Ya you are right but still you did a good job 👍 flying
But you did good at flying I love the noise
Hey mate,
What did you end up doing with the single yellow wire from the esc? What is it for?
Hey Brian,what receiver u using,maybe I wasn’t paying attention, sorry I was multi tasking.
I can't 100% remember. It's in the video description ;)
Pretty cool but a rudder would be nice hehe
Nice flying Brian Great job as always Camera Crew 🔥👍✌️
True!
Very cool, thank you guys
Our pleasure!
does it have gyroscope for stable flight?
Thanks from Spain!!
I set this one up with AS3X, but it's a PNP, so you get to pick what Receiver you use.
Mr Roboto version of Brian Phillips RC. :)
LOL - We are trying to figure out what causes this noise...
Hi! Nice review! Is this a first edf? Thanks!
I wouldn't do this as a first EDF, but you could if you wanted. I want WHEELS UP, WHEELS DOWN for any "first"...but this plane is not bad flying, only that I think it'll be a bit of a challenge to keep looking GREAT, which it DOES!
I’ve noticed that you regularly run the batteries down to sub 10%. Doesn’t that hurt the battery? I normally run my smart batteries to 25-30%. Is that too conservative?
You can discharge them as much as you want, so long as you don't get the cells dipping much below 3.2 or 3.1 - which I DO occasionally do.
Also, depends on your risk tolerance
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks might push my smart batteries a bit more than. For a couple extra passes
No doubt heads up! Watch out!!! Where's my nose 😂
LOL!
I can fly the umx citation very well, so if I can fly that can I fly this f-16? And is the speed comparison between the two pretty close?
You could, but the F-18 by eachine is better...for similar price point.
I would highly recommend the Arrows 50mm's before these.
F16 50mm bit.ly/3Kga0Av + AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD
F18 50mm bit.ly/3mm9xSY + AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD
OR
BAE Hawk bit.ly/3pSmp4v + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w
T-33 bit.ly/3DuVOPp + AR410 bit.ly/3GnSY0w
Viper bit.ly/3uinxlD + AR630 bit.ly/3rkGZMI
Cool! Thanks Brian!
Brian what's a better purchase this or the UMX citation?
Citation Longitude - 100% hands down.
Citation Longitude bit.ly/30RwdQ4
OR
F16 50mm bit.ly/37F6Kwk + AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD
@@BrianPhillipsRC do you have code on horizon and thanks for advice.
So how does this compare to the elite f16 64mm? I have one in a box waiting for my skills to catch up,lol. Love you videos.
I have the 64mm Elite F-16 and it flies beautifully!! Super stable and slows down nicely for landing, but can be pretty speedy when you want it to be. :) From what I can tell, the F-16 flies very similar to Eflite F-15 Mr. PhillipsRC... ;).... reviewed previously.
Are you insane? Open the box and fly it
The safe system works really good, just make sure you have the elevator flaps tilted up like 30 ° or it will nosedive and rather more wind than less is better so you can land it at walking speed without much effort
This is a different plane, for a bunch of reasons...
1) 4S vs 6S
2) 70mm (or 80mm) vs 50mm
3) Retracts vs No Gear
4) Weight
5) Cost
It's not really a good comparison at all. If the Eflite 70mm or 80mm were no gear, it would be more similar.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Actually, I was referring to the 64mm 4S version I got on Horizon Hobby clearance for $129.99. I think they're at @ $179. now. Anyway, they look about same size. This has stick in gear, but I plan to fly hand toss., with no gear. lol. Anyway, I thought you flew one of these. It already has a Spectrum 636B receiver with safe,(that made hard to pass for $130) so it's comparable what you did, only it's tuned for the F16, and it sounds like you aren't through dialing that receiver in, to work with the F16 flight characteristics. I know it's 64mm vs 50mm, but looked awful close in size, although this Eachine F16 looks smoother, a real looker!
Thanks for all you do,
John
Hey Brian, I was on the fence about getting this (or the F18, since they're listed on BG as using 1300-1500, battery sizes that I don't fly) until I saw your videos flying the planes on 3S/4S 2200. Your referral link goes to the PNP version, but I'd prefer to get the kit version (gonna drop in an FMS motor and an Avian esc), do you still get the referral from BG if I use the link to get the kit version?
I think you can follow the link, then just pick the KIT, if you wish.
23:57. I have a theory that these companies bought out some molds from companies that went out of business, hence the phantom landing gear molded section. I have an Ares p51 and my grandfather has the Volantex 768-1 p51. They are pretty much identical p51 airplanes. I would bet that maybe this f16 was made by a different company and theirs might have had a real wheel for the landing gear. I think Volantex and Eachine are made in the same factory.
Probably ;)
Hi Brian
Did you install the file of the eflite 64mm on the 636 used in this plane ?
No, I specifically DID NOT re-program it, but if I had, that MIGHT be okay....all depends on what direction the output of the original elevator setup was...and it might be different.
If I were to put in an AR630 or AR631 - I could setup this plane super sweet ;)
Ah, a fellow F-16 snob! LOL. I think I'll grab one of these and repaint it with one of the more common deployed unit schemes. Can't beat it for the price. And I know it's capable nowadays, but I still can't get used to AMRAAMs on the wingtips. Sidewinders, man! Sidewinders! :)
the missles on the wing are only good to planes with gear. they will keep your wings from getting scraped up.
I love the missiles, but wish they were the RIGHT ones too.........BABY STEPS (Think Bill Murry in What About Bob - LOL)
Hey Brian, what is the weight on this one with battery? Under 250g?
Hey Alex! Don't know when Brian will see your comment, so I just checked for him... the plane itself is 386g. 513g with the battery we used. Hope that helps!
Thanks Megan - Glad you beat me to it, since it's been crazy ;)
Hey, the Vamps are back in stock at HK...just saying. OH BTW Can you get a 3S 2200 in this thing?
I don't think you could get the thing to CG out, unfortunately with 3S 2200 :(
This guys reviews are the best! @brian do you review freewing anymore? The mirage V2 would be something cool to check out. Cheers for the vids!
Thanks Anthony! Glad you're here with us. I would VERY GLADLY review Freewing, but MotionRC won't work with us. I'm afraid they must think we're a bit too honest, and therefore too risky??? I used to assume they were a pretty stand up company, but after years, and now many other companies, we're working with, it kinda wireds me out that they're one of the FEW companies that WON'T work with us...
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for getting back to me, much appreciated. That’s a real shame. I think your videos show a very balanced opinion on how these products really are and it helps people get an honest opinion before purchasing some of these planes. Once again cheers for the great reviews and big props to “camera crew”-Ant
Lovely plane , but the only think I don’t like is no undercarriage, I love the look of planes with the wheels down. It sure can take the G’s I’m surprised the wings didn’t fold the way you pull up at speed. I might be tempted to buy one if there is an undercarriage version.
Fair enough! To all their own.
T-7A 64mm bit.ly/3s3eKRp - Another GREAT choice ;)
brian do you have a dynam waco bi plane to review ?
Not done that one yet. Dynam let us down so many times + Megan threatened to kill me in my sleep if I took on any more - LOL ;)
Gosh what is that ? Charlie Brown feed back is back. Cool plane wish it had rudder!!
Sounds like one of those speaking devices that people no longer have their voice boxes...
Sorry, mics do this to us once in a while, and we're trying to find out why.
Is there a way to mount wheels on it ? Thank you
If you want to do it, there's a way, but I wouldn't. I think it would be wasted on this plane...too heavy.
Hi , Great video i was looking forward on this. Can i fly it with a dxs? Seven channel should be okay right?
Greetings
Sure can, but no expo and if you want to use an AR630 or AR631 you won't have a way to program the receiver, so you can setup the AS3X/SAFE.
Damnit Brian!! Why couldn't you have put this video out 2 days ago when I bought this plane?? That way I could've used your link 😞
Good to know it's gonna fly well. I'm really excited. Also, shipped out very quick. I've been wondering this tho.. Do you think a 2200 would be at all possible?? Like if I put the receiver all the way up front? Thanks for the video and tip/tricks dude!
It'll be very tough to get the CG right.
I believe the wings are magnetic
No, they are not .....
If they are magnetic, that's the most insane idea I've ever heard, but would be fun to test. Let's ask Nate about that ;) LOL
Love your reviews Brian. Could I put an 1800 battery in this or would it weigh too much for this plane? (newbie here)
If you can get the CG to work out, sure.
Ok thanks!
Can I put my sticky parfs in the EDF as long as I'm flying over a moist, disorganized sport? Asking for a friend 👍
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAT ????
@@BrianPhillipsRC
Sorry. That video is about a year (and probably 50 Chinese translated planes) ago. Referred to the build instructions.
Love the videos so much, I ignore the dates!
Question for anyone. I have the aeroscout and really not a big fan of the plane. Don't like the speed of it . Not comfortable with the speed I have to keep to keep it flying. What would you guys recommend for a slower flyer. Thus I'm selling the aeroscout.
Okay, I think there's a few here - if you want to fly slower, consider the Apprentice 1.5m, or the Apprentice 1.2m
Description - Purchase - Videos
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc
Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM
T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc
Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS
Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy
AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - ruclips.net/video/vfZZQXx7jU4/видео.html\
Pretty cool jet. So is it hard to set up a smart receiver in a pnp? Got a omp bighorn I want to put a smart receiver in. I tryed To put a receiver from my timber x in it. And did not end good. Lol. Went in the air Wings wiggle back and Fourth violently and piched up Stalled and nose dived. Lol. Only flew it three times. I bought another one though. Now they are usually out of stock and waaaay more expensive. I payed for my first one ummm 279 Pnp. It was toatled. Broke in have. Broke in pieces. (balsa wood plane). Then bought my recent one off bang good 390 For a kit.
I start out with 30, 40, and 50 percent gyro gain for aileron, elevator, and rudder. If I feel like it needs more, I'll increase all of them by 10% until I start to see the wingtips oscillate when I stop a roll or at higher speeds. Once I see oscillation, I decrease them by 5% until it quits. Generally, the ailerons will oscillate first, followed by the elevator, and then the rudder. That's why I use 10% more on the elevator than the ailerons and 10% more on the rudder than the elevator. When setting up a gyro, you must make sure it corrects in the proper direction. If you raise a wingtip, the aileron on that tip should deflect upward. And if you raise the tail, the elevator should deflect upward. IOW, the gyro must move the surface in the same direction that you moved it.
@@txkflier Thanks. Do you have to have a programming cable?
@@ruger1420 For an AR636, yes. For an AR637T, no, but you’ll need a Gen 2 Spektrum transmitter and the latest firmware to do Forward Programming..
@@txkflier Cool. Do have a gen 2 spectrum. I’ll have to get that cable May come in handy. Thankyou 👍
@@ruger1420 There’s an RCGroups thread on putting a SAFE receiver in a different plane. Look for the user “flightengr”. There are also YT videos by RC Air Marshall..
Can you review the Freewing F-14 please? That would be amazing!
Sorry, they won't work with us.
Call and tell them you want them to work with me.
I'd love to do the Freewing F-14!!!
Are you ever going to start flying turbine jet’s
As soon as we have a company to work with. These would be way out of our budget, but AMAZING!
I'd like to start flying (Full scale) and my next attempt will be powered paragliding, but not sure when this will happen. I'd like to end up with an ultralight that we can fly from the back of our property, but PPG will be a lot more practical for our lifestyle at the moment.
Toooop Yes baby
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the beast has realese LOL
LOL - Thanks ;)
Whats up with the sound from time to time
Sorry, mic feedback issue, we think. Might be the shirt Camera Crew was wearing...we think...not 100% sure yet. The Rhode mics clip on and they can pull away from her chest and cause a strange noise.
What battery it use?
I think you would want to use 3S 1300
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks!
Unlike the RC sailor you know how to hand launch an airplane.
Thanks ;) LOL - Nate and Abby worked hard to get where they are, but they do leave me scratching my head some times.
Thanks for being here with us Doc ;)
Cool jet. I watched the Sailors struggle with theirs so I wasn't sure. I love little Jets though and that one seems like it flies great. Must be an F-16 thing
I love it, but I should have used the AR630 ;)
Nice little jet ....Echine should put your name in the instructions so everyone could enjoy it .
Thanks ;)
I seen the Sailors review as well good job 👍 with the problem.
God bless take care stay safe another great video
Thanks ;) You too!
Really is a neat little edf so glad you didn’t limp wrist it on your maiden that would have been embarrassing.
I was careful to launch it pretty hard, since I didn't know how fast she needed to keep airborne - liked the results ;) Sweet plane!
What happened at 19:33 you sounded like a Dalek.
Cat's out of the bag - I'm actually a droid. I should have been more forthright with our wonderful audience, but if I admitting to be partial robot/alien, I think my appeal would be lessened, and the leaders on the mother ship might ask me to come home - LOL
Good price Two others whom fly new planes on RUclips cannot fly it upside down. When they did it went into a nose dive. You have figured out how to.
LOL - I would have done it, but it was just that the SAFE upside-down mounted Rx extravaganza, had the plane pointing TOO MUCH down when I would have let off the sticks - so I was like " NO GO!!! " - glad I made that call, but would be real cool to see still!!!
1:01:49
This is very helpfull for any 50mm jet
Nobody notice that wings are held on by magnets no glue need like the manual shows just saying
I didn't notice, since it wasn't there...
Whats with the robot woice sometimes
cool, i just flew my F16 mini ... but hey, i'm not a big fan of the PNP versions.
PS: today I also crashed my carbon cub s2 1.3 sniff. the nose totally crushed. I will make a video of the damage ....
This thing is AWESOME!!!
Every now and then I hear a weird noise when you talk, is it a joke or is it my video? Also do you think this could be a beginner EDF jet(anyone can answer this doesn’t have to be Brian)
We were having an issue with our lav mics, and we have since resolved the cause, but there are still many video published with this strange noise. Sorry about this!
@@BrianPhillipsRC it doesn’t affect how good your videos are! Love your videos! ❤️
Weird issues with your audio on this - Rode are usually so reliable.
I know!!! We're totally baffled??? We tried to replicate it again the other night with NO LUCK. It's so strange, and also real irritating - we don't usually re-watch 100% of the videos, we just watch short clips to verify all the cut's get in the video, so I was super bummed to hear that I was going all Techno-Freaky - LOL
Cute Lil F-16... Don't Suck In A Starling or Your Wires Like Nate! 🤣 Hey Brian, What About Them 2-New Banggood a380 & 747 Commercial Jets, Each w/4 30mm Prop-Fan Mini-EDFs + Big Red LEDs In Ducts On A Little Bigger Than The War-Birds Series Planes, I Told You About Them A Couple Weeks Ago w/Links! Butt Maybe F#@Kin Y-Tube Killed That Post??? 😎
I asked my contact to send them, but she evidently didn't want too???
Schmier? Schmiering?maybe it's German 🤣 lol i'm From Germany
LOL - Thanks for understanding ;)
seen so many vids of this aircraft i would not buy🤔🤔🤔
There are other F-16 that might be preferable, but this is very fun, and love the scale looks. Wish it was a BIT more powerful, which would save on the difficulty of flying. Power saves rc lives ;)
They always break at the tip you think they would reinforce that part.
Totally! BUT, at least it broke in the foam and not on the pointy, cool part ;)
No Power, not cool!
You think it's weak? I think it flies pretty GREAT ;)
I think I should have put an AR631 in there, to make it better still.
I wonder if I could SQUEEEEEEZE a 64mm in there??? OR just try her on 4S - If it catches fire, it might be a good show at least - LOL!
Não voou com o avião, dislike!
What???