Hi Brian, just to share my experience of f16. Bought kit by mistake. Ordered motor from bangood and got esc, servos and cables from an old plane. First flight on 3s...no power crashed. Glued together and boiled nose to straighten. Second flight harder thow, no power crashed. More glue and boiling water. Bought some 4s 1500 batteries and cut out foam to fit. Third flight no power on 4s and worse crash. More glue and boiling water. Then noticed that the long wires I had used were dangling down and blocking the air intake. Cut hole in bottom and taped wires to top of fuselage. Glued back the piece I had cut out to make hole. Looks like crap. Fourth flight still on 4s. Massive power now and terrifying flight with too much aerolon throw.....but landed OK with no further damage. Cut down throws. Fifth flight perfect......I love it. Perseverance is all. Andy in uk.
WOW! You're one determined pilot!!!! Glad you stuck with it, and now I bet you LOOOOOVE it ;) Funny thing, If you like the F-16 - you would FREAK at how much better the F-18 is!!! I know, I'm an F-16 guy, but the F-18 was just BETTER...P.S. I promise, not trying to "rub it in" or anything, given the circumstances you faced with your F-16, sounds like you really like it. Also, I think you had the better pick for size of pack. I bet you had the CG SPOT ON with those 1500mAh 4S packs.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for that, yes cog is fine. I would buy the f18, but I have an fms Pitts arriving tomorrow, and as a retired old guy on a budget I would have to sell a kidney to get another plane this month :).
Great flying Brian those awesome planes . Thanks for showing these two planes in action on 4-S ... Thanks Camera crew for the great video action ! Always a great day for me when I get my BrianPhillipsRC fix. Thanks for all you do for us RC addicts !!
Ty so much for this video! I did a slight modification to the canopy and now I fly on 4s 2200mah and it's worlds better than using the small batteries 😎🤙
Awesome! Reminds me of excessive the oscillation I had with the Freewing F35. I used a salvaged AR631 from a crashed Viper 70mm. Replaced it with a new AR630, going to try it this weekend.
Alternative to drilling hole closer to aileron servo arm pivot point, moving control rod to hole all the way out on aileron control horn would de-sensitize to the same degree with less effort.
Dude some of those maneuvers! If it had been me at the controls I would have put a hole into the side of your garage! Oh no 🙈 the ossilation! My ranger 400 was suffering from the 737 max push the nose down auto correction but luckily making it super tale heavy kind of fixed the problem. Love what you did to the f 18 especially!
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes 🙌!! I shot a couple of vr 360 videos and you see me desperately trying to lift the nose of the plane ✈️ but the ranger fights my controls and smashes into the cement or grass.
Awesome Video! Other than your receivers do these planes have the same electronics config (blades, kv, esc)? did you fly them both with stock electronics?
Everything but the Rx and Battery YES. They are PNP, but you can find them as ARF's too, I believe. Follow my link, and read to be 100% sure. I got mine as PNP. P.S. I deleted a duplicate comment of yours...not sure why this happens, but didn't want you to misunderstand ;)
Ahhhh LVC.. So great when you wanna learn to dead stick land haha that's exactly what mine did the first time on 4s before upgrading to a 40amp. Love this video, Brian!
Nice flying bro, have these now been rebranded AF model because they have the identical jet now eachine no longer sell it ??? Your reviews are brilliant bro, appreciate your insight 👍🏼
I think you might be right. The Arrows are a better value, no doubt, but if you want BOTH...these are pretty sweet too, with the OBVIOUS choice being the F-18
@@BrianPhillipsRC t-33 is on order waiting for it to arrive... I was actually curious to see if the wings would be interchangeable in the Bea-Hawk to the T-33.. just to mess with the die hard rc nazis we fly with.. Great work on this ... as usual there's always a *"wrong hole"* Easter egg in the video..
@@BrianPhillipsRC update... sorry, Brian much respect, but seriously the T-33 has no where near the power and control as the viper. I have sooo many flights on the Arrows Viper and i can tell you, it is by far and large the best 50mm out of the bunch. Almost want to try the F-18, but ... i have to ask...what in your opinion makes the Arrows T-33 so much better when it has less power?
Brian: (Long story, BUT), that YOU know of, is there any dual rate/expo adjust on the nx8 fir channel 6 for an AR631 reciever? (Buddies aeroscout, elevator channel is inop. I put elevator on ch6 & it works fine. Mixed elevator/master, ch6/slave. BUT its 100% everything, 100% of the time. Rx is out of warranty.) Thank you sir!
Vous devez avoir beaucoup d’avion quelle plaisir monsieur de voir vos vidéo merci ( je ne savais pas ke. Pouvais metre à la place de la baterie 3s une 4s ( donc dans les avión 1s peut on metre une 2s ??
Talking about adding a rudder , if you do mod it with 1 please do another video showing them with it. ^_= Oh, one more thing. Which T-33 were you talking about in the video?
Fly like 100,000 more times, and you'll get a lot better. I'm not nervous now, but get nervous at some maidens. Mostly on landing, or if something goes wrong. FIGHT OR FLIGHT - hard to break this, you just have to work through it.
Still a handful...but for a second or third, AND in the right flying site, sure ;) Get a good battery and make sure you have the CG right. The F-16 was correct in the paperwork, if I recall...the F-18 was WAY off, but someone JUST told me Eachine updated the notes to read 55mm back from the leading edge of the wing.
I've been flying rc helicopters since 2001 this is going to be my first EDF jet which is on the way from Bangood should be here on the 22nd. I'm then going to get the A-8 Crusader from Motion Pro hopefully this F-18 50mm jet will be a great starter Jet so I should go with 4S over 3S because it looks better in control with the 4S! Is this a great starter jet!?
Welcome Rohan 67! We have a video for that - UNBOX, BUILD, RADIO SETUP, and MAIDEN FLIGHT (we do that for all the planes when we get them first...this is a second video for the two of these planes, fyi) If you look at my PLAYLISTS, you can see what planes are there and just click on the first video...
P.S. Very sorry for my SUPER-SLOW reply.... it's been so crazy around here, and I can't seem to get caught up with comments, but we TRY to get them answered quick - this is slower than normal. Sorry for that!
Please help me Brian..I bought one f18 pnp and i put to test one 1550 4s 100c...But when i move the stick throtlle max is cutting off power and beeps..How i have to do because make this in 3s and 4s!!
Hi Brian and mrs Brian with the 4s did you change out the esc’s on them or are they stock forgive me for asking I didn’t know if I missed it during vid and soz for calling mrs Brian couldn’t remember your wife’s name , I to installed at 630 with safe your right so good for launching I’ve not put the f16 together yet but hopefully soon, salute from uk 🇬🇧, Gaza
no changing out anything except for minor control horn adjustments, and only since I used a beat up AR636 form another plane, and didn't bother re-programming it. Megan is the camera crew, and my wonderful wife ;)
Oh yeah! We do it all the time. If you want to see HOW, we have many PNP planes and put SAFE equipped Rx'es all the time. Rx AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c AR637T bit.ly/3pW3u86 AR8360T bit.ly/3dKg4n6 These ones all have AS3X and SAFE - super easy to setup the AS3X and/or SAFE.
@@BrianPhillipsRC sorry to keep asking questions! But do you know if I got a DXS transmitter and ar637t receiver, can you set them up using the pc software?? Can't find any info online about how to do it!
Watched this one again (because it is that good and informative) ^_^. But wondering if you knew that Arrows RC made a F-86 model. If so would you or do have one on the way to review as well? Either way, keep them videos uploaded.
@@mr_mysterious_6174 Yep 4s 2200 lol... barely fits but he managed somehow. I think the reason is he only had 2200's in 4s. Will land a bit faster and harder but the upsides are 5 min flight time and a bit more weight to handle the wind and penetrate better. Fair play to him, I would not have predicted much success with that much extra weight!
This was discussed in the video, but yes. I'd rather use a 1300mAh 4S, but I don't have one. If that size were popular, I could get the CG better, but the nose heavy-ness has proven to be a non-issue
I have an FPV proposal. There is nothing more cool than landing FPV. It heightens the experience because things are happening, and the ground is coming up, and it is total immersive experience. Here is the proposal: FPV landing with PAPI lights that shoots the landing decent approach. PAPI lights would give you the proper glide descent angle. I have not yet seen any youtubers make a PAPI light FPV landing approach video. I just think that would be so neat. ===== I personally have not flown rc in 20 years, but I am looking at the turbo timber with its flaps and slats and I want to do FPV touch and go.By the way, PAPI lights are not hard to make. It doesn’t even have to be a ‘light’ It can just be visible white and red paint that is half covered (ie the red is covered up at a certain visual angle and the white at another angle). PAPI lights. ===== So, what do you think? Would you ever consider a PAPI light landing FPV video? Thx.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you're here with us Andrew! We love when fellow RC enthusiasts back each other up, and help to grow our hobby in a positive way.
Ohhh Megan, You Need To Get An 18650 Power Pack & Stick In Your Pocket While Filming Out In The Cold To Plug Into The Camera-Phone... 😁 Ohhh Brian, You Were A Little Heavy On All The Holes!? And She Says It DOES Makes A Difference On Which One You Use! LUV IT... 🤪🤣😎
Man you had me TILL you kept talking about the rudder control, but then you say remember folks this doesn’t have any yaw control!😒🤦♂️🙄 Can we say noob!🤣
Hi Brian, just to share my experience of f16. Bought kit by mistake. Ordered motor from bangood and got esc, servos and cables from an old plane. First flight on 3s...no power crashed. Glued together and boiled nose to straighten. Second flight harder thow, no power crashed. More glue and boiling water. Bought some 4s 1500 batteries and cut out foam to fit. Third flight no power on 4s and worse crash. More glue and boiling water. Then noticed that the long wires I had used were dangling down and blocking the air intake. Cut hole in bottom and taped wires to top of fuselage. Glued back the piece I had cut out to make hole. Looks like crap. Fourth flight still on 4s. Massive power now and terrifying flight with too much aerolon throw.....but landed OK with no further damage. Cut down throws. Fifth flight perfect......I love it. Perseverance is all. Andy in uk.
WOW! You're one determined pilot!!!! Glad you stuck with it, and now I bet you LOOOOOVE it ;)
Funny thing, If you like the F-16 - you would FREAK at how much better the F-18 is!!! I know, I'm an F-16 guy, but the F-18 was just BETTER...P.S. I promise, not trying to "rub it in" or anything, given the circumstances you faced with your F-16, sounds like you really like it. Also, I think you had the better pick for size of pack. I bet you had the CG SPOT ON with those 1500mAh 4S packs.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for that, yes cog is fine. I would buy the f18, but I have an fms Pitts arriving tomorrow, and as a retired old guy on a budget I would have to sell a kidney to get another plane this month :).
Great flying Brian those awesome planes . Thanks for showing these two planes in action on 4-S ... Thanks Camera crew for the great video action ! Always a great day for me when I get my BrianPhillipsRC fix. Thanks for all you do for us RC addicts !!
You're welcome, and thank you Johnny!
I like that you did a VS flight review! Do more like this please.
These planes were MADE for a VS ;)
Ty so much for this video! I did a slight modification to the canopy and now I fly on 4s 2200mah and it's worlds better than using the small batteries 😎🤙
Nice!
Awesome! Reminds me of excessive the oscillation I had with the Freewing F35. I used a salvaged AR631 from a crashed Viper 70mm. Replaced it with a new AR630, going to try it this weekend.
Yep, you CAN resolve it with AS3X programming, or you can make mechanical adjustments.
@@BrianPhillipsRC definitely took notes on the mechanical adjustments as a back up. Thanks!
What a awesome video man!!
Thanks so much for showing us the upgrades!!
Joshua,a big fan of your channel from Tennessee 🤙
Thanks Joshua!
Alternative to drilling hole closer to aileron servo arm pivot point, moving control rod to hole all the way out on aileron control horn would de-sensitize to the same degree with less effort.
I think I actually shared that too...
I love the dual stabilizers on the F-18. Would be nice if they actually functioned as rudders though lol.
Awesome vs video guys 🔥👍✌️
I wish they just put rudders on these planes. They deserve it!
I got to play with the real F-18 Hornets when I was in the Navy. These birds are awesome.
AWESOME!
Dude some of those maneuvers! If it had been me at the controls I would have put a hole into the side of your garage! Oh no 🙈 the ossilation! My ranger 400 was suffering from the 737 max push the nose down auto correction but luckily making it super tale heavy kind of fixed the problem. Love what you did to the f 18 especially!
LOL - MCAS strikes again - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes 🙌!! I shot a couple of vr 360 videos and you see me desperately trying to lift the nose of the plane ✈️ but the ranger fights my controls and smashes into the cement or grass.
Awesome Video! Other than your receivers do these planes have the same electronics config (blades, kv, esc)? did you fly them both with stock electronics?
Everything but the Rx and Battery YES. They are PNP, but you can find them as ARF's too, I believe. Follow my link, and read to be 100% sure. I got mine as PNP.
P.S. I deleted a duplicate comment of yours...not sure why this happens, but didn't want you to misunderstand ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC so the stock esc can handle 4s?
Ahhhh LVC.. So great when you wanna learn to dead stick land haha that's exactly what mine did the first time on 4s before upgrading to a 40amp. Love this video, Brian!
I never lost one due to over current...just ran out of battery ;)
Hitting the strap!
5 mins later, Ok, so I should have waited till you figured it out!
LOL
Nice flying bro, have these now been rebranded AF model because they have the identical jet now eachine no longer sell it ??? Your reviews are brilliant bro, appreciate your insight 👍🏼
beautiful flight, but I read that the ESC is 30 amps, does it burn at 4 s? do you have to change it? thank you
I feel that even though I crashed my arrows BAE Hawk, its a better choice over these
I think you might be right. The Arrows are a better value, no doubt, but if you want BOTH...these are pretty sweet too, with the OBVIOUS choice being the F-18
@@BrianPhillipsRC t-33 is on order waiting for it to arrive... I was actually curious to see if the wings would be interchangeable in the Bea-Hawk to the T-33.. just to mess with the die hard rc nazis we fly with..
Great work on this ... as usual there's always a *"wrong hole"* Easter egg in the video..
@@BrianPhillipsRC update... sorry, Brian much respect, but seriously the T-33 has no where near the power and control as the viper.
I have sooo many flights on the Arrows Viper and i can tell you, it is by far and large the best 50mm out of the bunch.
Almost want to try the F-18, but ... i have to ask...what in your opinion makes the Arrows T-33 so much better when it has less power?
Brian:
(Long story, BUT), that YOU know of, is there any dual rate/expo adjust on the nx8 fir channel 6 for an AR631 reciever?
(Buddies aeroscout, elevator channel is inop. I put elevator on ch6 & it works fine. Mixed elevator/master, ch6/slave. BUT its 100% everything, 100% of the time. Rx is out of warranty.)
Thank you sir!
You don't need a channel to tie for Dual Rates & Expo. You just need a switch ;)
Wow! That thing (F18)is a rocket 🚀. Cool video.
It sure is!
Vous devez avoir beaucoup d’avion quelle plaisir monsieur de voir vos vidéo merci ( je ne savais pas ke. Pouvais metre à la place de la baterie 3s une 4s ( donc dans les avión 1s peut on metre une 2s ??
Yes, they are wonderful on 3S :)
bellissimo volo, ma ho letto che l'ESC è di 30 amper ,a 4 s non si brucia? bisogna cambiarlo? grazie
Talking about adding a rudder , if you do mod it with 1 please do another video showing them with it. ^_=
Oh, one more thing. Which T-33 were you talking about in the video?
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I always get SUPER nervous when I fly my rc plane, is there some way to stop that or is it just to fly and get better so I don’t have to worry?
Fly like 100,000 more times, and you'll get a lot better. I'm not nervous now, but get nervous at some maidens. Mostly on landing, or if something goes wrong. FIGHT OR FLIGHT - hard to break this, you just have to work through it.
Weed does it for mua
@@axfpvalex1944 what?
If you used the AR630 rx in the F-16 would it be a good beginner EDF?
Still a handful...but for a second or third, AND in the right flying site, sure ;) Get a good battery and make sure you have the CG right. The F-16 was correct in the paperwork, if I recall...the F-18 was WAY off, but someone JUST told me Eachine updated the notes to read 55mm back from the leading edge of the wing.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks Brian...if the F-16 would be questionable. What would you recommend for a first edf?
Hi sir Bryan how are you and your family?
Both jets are beautiful and fast to fly. but which one is better to fly?
F-18, in this case, is better, hands down.
I've been flying rc helicopters since 2001 this is going to be my first EDF jet which is on the way from Bangood should be here on the 22nd. I'm then going to get the A-8 Crusader from Motion Pro hopefully this F-18 50mm jet will be a great starter Jet so I should go with 4S over 3S because it looks better in control with the 4S! Is this a great starter jet!?
I just subbed to your channel .Where at f16 is the CG?Thanks and keep The good work!Say hello to camera crue..☺️
Welcome Rohan 67!
We have a video for that - UNBOX, BUILD, RADIO SETUP, and MAIDEN FLIGHT (we do that for all the planes when we get them first...this is a second video for the two of these planes, fyi)
If you look at my PLAYLISTS, you can see what planes are there and just click on the first video...
P.S. Very sorry for my SUPER-SLOW reply.... it's been so crazy around here, and I can't seem to get caught up with comments, but we TRY to get them answered quick - this is slower than normal. Sorry for that!
Please help me Brian..I bought one f18 pnp and i put to test one 1550 4s 100c...But when i move the stick throtlle max is cutting off power and beeps..How i have to do because make this in 3s and 4s!!
Hi Brian and mrs Brian with the 4s did you change out the esc’s on them or are they stock forgive me for asking I didn’t know if I missed it during vid and soz for calling mrs Brian couldn’t remember your wife’s name , I to installed at 630 with safe your right so good for launching I’ve not put the f16 together yet but hopefully soon, salute from uk 🇬🇧, Gaza
no changing out anything except for minor control horn adjustments, and only since I used a beat up AR636 form another plane, and didn't bother re-programming it.
Megan is the camera crew, and my wonderful wife ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks Brian I’ll think I’ll give my f16 a go on 4s to
Another great video, thank you!
Thanks!
Can you install a safe receiver on any plane?? I Really like the freewing f22 and am wondering whether I could use as3x with safe receiver...
Oh yeah! We do it all the time. If you want to see HOW, we have many PNP planes and put SAFE equipped Rx'es all the time.
Rx
AR630 bit.ly/3lh5iqD
AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c
AR637T bit.ly/3pW3u86
AR8360T bit.ly/3dKg4n6
These ones all have AS3X and SAFE - super easy to setup the AS3X and/or SAFE.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Nice one!! Will definitely check them out, thank you so much 👍
@@BrianPhillipsRC sorry to keep asking questions! But do you know if I got a DXS transmitter and ar637t receiver, can you set them up using the pc software?? Can't find any info online about how to do it!
hi, nice job... is it a XT60 Plug or what on f18? Thx
and if you would be so kind, what are the max dimmensions(mm) of that lipo to fit in? Thx
would 105,61 mm/ 33,18 mm/ 28,72 mm fit?
I can't say MAX, since the size I used would be pretty much the max (2200mAh 4S) 1300 - 1500 mAh 4S would be better
XT60's for both stock, yes
Watched this one again (because it is that good and informative) ^_^.
But wondering if you knew that Arrows RC made a F-86 model. If so would you or do have one on the way to review as well?
Either way, keep them videos uploaded.
We don't have access to this plane YET.
@@BrianPhillipsRC YAY!
Hi Brian does the 4s 2200 make the plane nose heavy as the recommended battery is 1300-1800? Did this change the center of gravity?
Yeah, COG is much further forward but it clearly handles it ok. He discusses it indoors after the 1st F18 flight.
@@paulhope3401 Was it a 2200 pack Brian was flying. Becasue the 1300 is much smaller?
@@mr_mysterious_6174 Yep 4s 2200 lol... barely fits but he managed somehow. I think the reason is he only had 2200's in 4s.
Will land a bit faster and harder but the upsides are 5 min flight time and a bit more weight to handle the wind and penetrate better.
Fair play to him, I would not have predicted much success with that much extra weight!
This was discussed in the video, but yes. I'd rather use a 1300mAh 4S, but I don't have one. If that size were popular, I could get the CG better, but the nose heavy-ness has proven to be a non-issue
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks Brian. By the way when are you getting the Eflight F14 Tomcat in for review?
hi brian, for using 4s did you replace the esc? or the stock one is good enough ?
Nope, not on either plane ;) Just the stock ESC included with the PNP's
@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you👍👍
@@BrianPhillipsRC I'm looking to buy a 4s lipo but dont know the size that fits can you send link from aliexpres or from another?
So what do you have the as3x gains set at for the F-18?
Watch the Unbox, Build, Radio Setup to see. This would be in the playlist for the F-18 and we share all that in the video.
Did you know that “more than one way to skin a cat” was actually talking about catfish. Lol
I just found out yesterday.
I didn't - WEIRD!
Wow! That F-18 is fast!
YEAH! Way faster than the F-16, right?!?!?
Can they both fly on 3s 2200? Greetings from Belgium. Nice work , nice channel
I bet they'd do it, but JUST barely. If 3S better stick with 1300mAh or 1800mAh
I have an FPV proposal. There is nothing more cool than landing FPV. It heightens the experience because things are happening, and the ground is coming up, and it is total immersive experience. Here is the proposal: FPV landing with PAPI lights that shoots the landing decent approach. PAPI lights would give you the proper glide descent angle. I have not yet seen any youtubers make a PAPI light FPV landing approach video. I just think that would be so neat.
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I personally have not flown rc in 20 years, but I am looking at the turbo timber with its flaps and slats and I want to do FPV touch and go.By the way, PAPI lights are not hard to make. It doesn’t even have to be a ‘light’ It can just be visible white and red paint that is half covered (ie the red is covered up at a certain visual angle and the white at another angle). PAPI lights.
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So, what do you think? Would you ever consider a PAPI light landing FPV video? Thx.
That would be cool, but we're so busy right now, I don't want you to be waiting around for me to try it. I do like your idea for PPG landings too!
That F-16 was really made for 4s the way it flew
Yeah - I think they were both 4S planes, if you ask me!!!
Hello Brian,Airplane the battle 😉😉😉😉😁😁😁😁😁
yes sirrrr
Todo un profesional 👌👌👏👏
Thank you ;)
that channel is perfect, well done. Thank uuu !!!!!! :-)
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy it!
Love This!
Thanks Isaac - Glad you checked it out!
Love the video guys bad ass
Thanks Shane!
It would be nice if there was a section of the flight were the guy shuts his pie hole for a minuet so we can just hear the plane.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you're here with us Andrew! We love when fellow RC enthusiasts back each other up, and help to grow our hobby in a positive way.
Dont Blink!!!
yep!
Ohhh Megan, You Need To Get An 18650 Power Pack & Stick In Your Pocket While Filming Out In The Cold To Plug Into The Camera-Phone... 😁
Ohhh Brian, You Were A Little Heavy On All The Holes!? And She Says It DOES Makes A Difference On Which One You Use! LUV IT... 🤪🤣😎
LOL - glad you GET us ;) LOL
awesome
thanks!
Oh yes f-18 for me any day love it !!!
Do it! She's way better in this case, than the F-16
Yes! The video I didn’t know I wanted to see until now! Thanks Brian!
Also, “First”
Congrats!!!
ahhhhh When can we see who Megan is.......? You been holding out long enough.
She has been in many video...not a secret.
Airbus A380
if you find a great woman Id be protective of her too lol
👍
thanks
PowA💥
OH YEAH!!!!
Just drove through Iowa today heading back to Kansas.
Get some. Brain!
Will do ;)
Man you had me TILL you kept talking about the rudder control, but then you say remember folks this doesn’t have any yaw control!😒🤦♂️🙄
Can we say noob!🤣
I have rudder controls mixed in, so that I can use either stick. Sorry, it's hard to qualify everything while I'm flying and narrating, at times.